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"Wait as long as need to
What will be your criteria?
Safe for you ?
Safe for your friends mum ?
Or told that it's ok by the government
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Not too concerned if you or your friends mum got it but Not a burden on NHS?
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By *mberWoman
over a year ago
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I'm just going with the flow.
Whilst I'm in a situation where I'm more or less isolated then I'm happy to stay as I am. If outta deemed that I should be at work mixing with 1000s of people with no chance of social distancing them I will have no qualms about meeting people, nails, hair, friends etc.
I'm certainly not going to die from lack of sex.
I'm not even really thinking about it. |
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"Wait as long as need to
What will be your criteria?
Safe for you ?
Safe for your friends mum ?
Or told that it's ok by the government
Add to that list
Not too concerned if you or your friends mum got it but Not a burden on NHS?
"
A mixture of all of that, not just partners family but my own to; and possibly until a vaccine is ready |
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"Wait as long as need to
What will be your criteria?
Safe for you ?
Safe for your friends mum ?
Or told that it's ok by the government
Add to that list
Not too concerned if you or your friends mum got it but Not a burden on NHS?
A mixture of all of that, not just partners family but my own to; and possibly until a vaccine is ready "
It's not a mixture though
It was a hierarchical list |
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"Wait as long as need to
What will be your criteria?
Safe for you ?
Safe for your friends mum ?
Or told that it's ok by the government
Add to that list
Not too concerned if you or your friends mum got it but Not a burden on NHS?
A mixture of all of that, not just partners family but my own to; and possibly until a vaccine is ready
It's not a mixture though
It was a hierarchical list"
Each one puts you in a specific group of restrictions
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
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Have no intention of meeting anyone whether that be people I've met before or new people, from here or anywhere else in my life for close personal contact until such time that I am as sure as I can be that it is safe to do so - which may well be until a vaccine is available or there is a known cure available if it is contracted
My life and that of others is far more important to me than sex |
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"Wait as long as need to
What will be your criteria?
Safe for you ?
Safe for your friends mum ?
Or told that it's ok by the government
Add to that list
Not too concerned if you or your friends mum got it but Not a burden on NHS?
A mixture of all of that, not just partners family but my own to; and possibly until a vaccine is ready
It's not a mixture though
It was a hierarchical list
Each one puts you in a specific group of restrictions
"
Then I’m at the end with a vaccine or proof I’ve had it already and no risk to others for any close contact, life and the health of my family and others is more important |
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"Wait as long as need to
What will be your criteria?
Safe for you ?
Safe for your friends mum ?
Or told that it's ok by the government
Add to that list
Not too concerned if you or your friends mum got it but Not a burden on NHS?
A mixture of all of that, not just partners family but my own to; and possibly until a vaccine is ready
It's not a mixture though
It was a hierarchical list
Each one puts you in a specific group of restrictions
Then I’m at the end with a vaccine or proof I’ve had it already and no risk to others for any close contact, life and the health of my family and others is more important "
5 years ? |
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"Wait as long as need to
What will be your criteria?
Safe for you ?
Safe for your friends mum ?
Or told that it's ok by the government
Add to that list
Not too concerned if you or your friends mum got it but Not a burden on NHS?
A mixture of all of that, not just partners family but my own to; and possibly until a vaccine is ready
It's not a mixture though
It was a hierarchical list
Each one puts you in a specific group of restrictions
Then I’m at the end with a vaccine or proof I’ve had it already and no risk to others for any close contact, life and the health of my family and others is more important
5 years ?"
If it comes to that yes but I very much doubt it will be that long... a year to 18 months maybe |
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"Wait as long as need to
What will be your criteria?
Safe for you ?
Safe for your friends mum ?
Or told that it's ok by the government
Add to that list
Not too concerned if you or your friends mum got it but Not a burden on NHS?
A mixture of all of that, not just partners family but my own to; and possibly until a vaccine is ready
It's not a mixture though
It was a hierarchical list
Each one puts you in a specific group of restrictions
Then I’m at the end with a vaccine or proof I’ve had it already and no risk to others for any close contact, life and the health of my family and others is more important
5 years ?
If it comes to that yes but I very much doubt it will be that long... a year to 18 months maybe "
5 years ? Yes ok
What about never ? |
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"Wait as long as need to
What will be your criteria?
Safe for you ?
Safe for your friends mum ?
Or told that it's ok by the government
Add to that list
Not too concerned if you or your friends mum got it but Not a burden on NHS?
A mixture of all of that, not just partners family but my own to; and possibly until a vaccine is ready
It's not a mixture though
It was a hierarchical list
Each one puts you in a specific group of restrictions
Then I’m at the end with a vaccine or proof I’ve had it already and no risk to others for any close contact, life and the health of my family and others is more important
5 years ?
If it comes to that yes but I very much doubt it will be that long... a year to 18 months maybe
5 years ? Yes ok
What about never ? "
Why do you think it would be never ? |
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over a year ago
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Depends really if I’ve had it or not and what happens when people start going back to work and if/when social distancing is reduced lots of different factors to consider, probably means no meets this year but who knows?? |
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"Depends really if I’ve had it or not and what happens when people start going back to work and if/when social distancing is reduced lots of different factors to consider, probably means no meets this year but who knows??"
That’s it lots of factors come into play and. I one knows yet. But agree it’s unlikely no meets this year |
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"Wait as long as need to
What will be your criteria?
Safe for you ?
Safe for your friends mum ?
Or told that it's ok by the government
Add to that list
Not too concerned if you or your friends mum got it but Not a burden on NHS?
A mixture of all of that, not just partners family but my own to; and possibly until a vaccine is ready
It's not a mixture though
It was a hierarchical list
Each one puts you in a specific group of restrictions
Then I’m at the end with a vaccine or proof I’ve had it already and no risk to others for any close contact, life and the health of my family and others is more important
5 years ?
If it comes to that yes but I very much doubt it will be that long... a year to 18 months maybe
5 years ? Yes ok
What about never ?
Why do you think it would be never ? "
Because
You said you didn't want to risk the life of you or your loved ones
As it happens I dont think there will be a cov-SARS2 vaccine for years yet based upon data about its sister cov-sars1
I think it will remain as an active human virus for a long time
However back to as you and many others are now saying quite rightly
I dont want to risk yourself or those you love
I might suggest you may not want to infect you dont love either
However cov 2 is not the only nasty that could do that
It's your conscious that had been raised
The risk you declare you will not take has always been there and even when cov subsides you and all of us not practicing social restrictions and extreme hygiene rituals and practices WILL always increase needless death
My theory is
Social acceptance will be the dictating factor not the genuine bone fide statisticsl risk you will pose to society
Most of this will be as arbitrary as 6 ft 2 m (which are no where near the same)
And other half hearted efforts to pretend we are safer
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"Wait as long as need to
What will be your criteria?
Safe for you ?
Safe for your friends mum ?
Or told that it's ok by the government
Add to that list
Not too concerned if you or your friends mum got it but Not a burden on NHS?
A mixture of all of that, not just partners family but my own to; and possibly until a vaccine is ready
It's not a mixture though
It was a hierarchical list
Each one puts you in a specific group of restrictions
Then I’m at the end with a vaccine or proof I’ve had it already and no risk to others for any close contact, life and the health of my family and others is more important
5 years ?
If it comes to that yes but I very much doubt it will be that long... a year to 18 months maybe
5 years ? Yes ok
What about never ?
Why do you think it would be never ?
Because
You said you didn't want to risk the life of you or your loved ones
As it happens I dont think there will be a cov-SARS2 vaccine for years yet based upon data about its sister cov-sars1
I think it will remain as an active human virus for a long time
However back to as you and many others are now saying quite rightly
I dont want to risk yourself or those you love
I might suggest you may not want to infect you dont love either
However cov 2 is not the only nasty that could do that
It's your conscious that had been raised
The risk you declare you will not take has always been there and even when cov subsides you and all of us not practicing social restrictions and extreme hygiene rituals and practices WILL always increase needless death
My theory is
Social acceptance will be the dictating factor not the genuine bone fide statisticsl risk you will pose to society
Most of this will be as arbitrary as 6 ft 2 m (which are no where near the same)
And other half hearted efforts to pretend we are safer
"
If you are going to that extreme I will revert to the old saying.... I could get run over by a bus tomorrow
Everyone takes risks every day in their life picking up diseases and infections, that is part of life. However, as this is so new and spreads so easily, deadly to some of course it’s wise everyone takes restrictions until more is known about it.
If that takes a couple of years and you can go about your business as you always have knowing the risks are there for other diseases, it is down to the individual to get educated about it and tested regularly (if needed), no different than someone getting their sexual health checked every six weeks
Life is a risk but you have to listen to the warnings and do what’s required to ensure you don’t intentionally harm yourself or others.
I see your words as the world will stay locked down, never to interact again as a bit far fetched |
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"Depends really if I’ve had it or not and what happens when people start going back to work and if/when social distancing is reduced lots of different factors to consider, probably means no meets this year but who knows??
That’s it lots of factors come into play and. I one knows yet. But agree it’s unlikely no meets this year "
Actually no
That's my point a lot of factors dont come into play
Dont want personally then stay home and when go out use effectively ppe that you have had fail safe training with
Cleanse everything delivered and bought
Ok
You dont mind getting it but
You dont want to pass it on or burden NHS
Same rules as above possibly forever
Ok you dont mind getting it
You dont mind everyone apart from friends and family
You stop being concerned about NHS
Then you can go out mingle freely however you cannot see friends or family without the extreme ppe
Anything else is pretending you're not taking a risk with your loved ones
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Have no intention of meeting anyone whether that be people I've met before or new people, from here or anywhere else in my life for close personal contact until such time that I am as sure as I can be that it is safe to do so - which may well be until a vaccine is available or there is a known cure available if it is contracted
My life and that of others is far more important to me than sex"
You realise a widely available vaccine is 9 months to a year away? |
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"Wait as long as need to
What will be your criteria?
Safe for you ?
Safe for your friends mum ?
Or told that it's ok by the government
Add to that list
Not too concerned if you or your friends mum got it but Not a burden on NHS?
A mixture of all of that, not just partners family but my own to; and possibly until a vaccine is ready
It's not a mixture though
It was a hierarchical list
Each one puts you in a specific group of restrictions
Then I’m at the end with a vaccine or proof I’ve had it already and no risk to others for any close contact, life and the health of my family and others is more important
5 years ?
If it comes to that yes but I very much doubt it will be that long... a year to 18 months maybe
5 years ? Yes ok
What about never ?
Why do you think it would be never ?
Because
You said you didn't want to risk the life of you or your loved ones
As it happens I dont think there will be a cov-SARS2 vaccine for years yet based upon data about its sister cov-sars1
I think it will remain as an active human virus for a long time
However back to as you and many others are now saying quite rightly
I dont want to risk yourself or those you love
I might suggest you may not want to infect you dont love either
However cov 2 is not the only nasty that could do that
It's your conscious that had been raised
The risk you declare you will not take has always been there and even when cov subsides you and all of us not practicing social restrictions and extreme hygiene rituals and practices WILL always increase needless death
My theory is
Social acceptance will be the dictating factor not the genuine bone fide statisticsl risk you will pose to society
Most of this will be as arbitrary as 6 ft 2 m (which are no where near the same)
And other half hearted efforts to pretend we are safer
If you are going to that extreme I will revert to the old saying.... I could get run over by a bus tomorrow
Everyone takes risks every day in their life picking up diseases and infections, that is part of life. However, as this is so new and spreads so easily, deadly to some of course it’s wise everyone takes restrictions until more is known about it.
If that takes a couple of years and you can go about your business as you always have knowing the risks are there for other diseases, it is down to the individual to get educated about it and tested regularly (if needed), no different than someone getting their sexual health checked every six weeks
Life is a risk but you have to listen to the warnings and do what’s required to ensure you don’t intentionally harm yourself or others.
I see your words as the world will stay locked down, never to interact again as a bit far fetched"
No you should see my words as
The world is always this risky it wont change much
But absolutely humans will convince themselves otherwise
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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i Dont think it will be too much longer before things start moving forward People are already about more that’s just a fact. Most people that get corona will have mild or no symptoms ..sadly more impaired etc will fall prey but it won’t go on forever. Lockdown will ease up somewhat with restrictions then it will be business as usual ...the way of the world
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"Have no intention of meeting anyone whether that be people I've met before or new people, from here or anywhere else in my life for close personal contact until such time that I am as sure as I can be that it is safe to do so - which may well be until a vaccine is available or there is a known cure available if it is contracted
My life and that of others is far more important to me than sex
You realise a widely available vaccine is 9 months to a year away? "
You do realise at this moment no one absolutely no one does or can know that
But hey the propaganda suits my purpose
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"Depends really if I’ve had it or not and what happens when people start going back to work and if/when social distancing is reduced lots of different factors to consider, probably means no meets this year but who knows??
That’s it lots of factors come into play and. I one knows yet. But agree it’s unlikely no meets this year
Actually no
That's my point a lot of factors dont come into play
Dont want personally then stay home and when go out use effectively ppe that you have had fail safe training with
Cleanse everything delivered and bought
Ok
You dont mind getting it but
You dont want to pass it on or burden NHS
Same rules as above possibly forever
Ok you dont mind getting it
You dont mind everyone apart from friends and family
You stop being concerned about NHS
Then you can go out mingle freely however you cannot see friends or family without the extreme ppe
Anything else is pretending you're not taking a risk with your loved ones
"
So you are effectively saying no one will return to work, go outside, kids go back to school, forever in lock down ?
You know that’s not sustainable right.... some sort of normality and living with this will have to return at some point. What that is no one knows, but it definitely won’t be everyone cooped up in their homes never to socialise, see family or work again |
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"i Dont think it will be too much longer before things start moving forward People are already about more that’s just a fact. Most people that get corona will have mild or no symptoms ..sadly more impaired etc will fall prey but it won’t go on forever. Lockdown will ease up somewhat with restrictions then it will be business as usual ...the way of the world
"
Indeed
My perspective is freedom will be based upon social acceptance and not a mathematical factual basis upon all diseases
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"Depends really if I’ve had it or not and what happens when people start going back to work and if/when social distancing is reduced lots of different factors to consider, probably means no meets this year but who knows??
That’s it lots of factors come into play and. I one knows yet. But agree it’s unlikely no meets this year
Actually no
That's my point a lot of factors dont come into play
Dont want personally then stay home and when go out use effectively ppe that you have had fail safe training with
Cleanse everything delivered and bought
Ok
You dont mind getting it but
You dont want to pass it on or burden NHS
Same rules as above possibly forever
Ok you dont mind getting it
You dont mind everyone apart from friends and family
You stop being concerned about NHS
Then you can go out mingle freely however you cannot see friends or family without the extreme ppe
Anything else is pretending you're not taking a risk with your loved ones
So you are effectively saying no one will return to work, go outside, kids go back to school, forever in lock down ?
You know that’s not sustainable right.... some sort of normality and living with this will have to return at some point. What that is no one knows, but it definitely won’t be everyone cooped up in their homes never to socialise, see family or work again "
No I'm saying you will
And I'm saying when you do you will put to the back of your mind the diseases you will spread the risks you will pass something on to a loved one
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By (user no longer on site)
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"i Dont think it will be too much longer before things start moving forward People are already about more that’s just a fact. Most people that get corona will have mild or no symptoms ..sadly more impaired etc will fall prey but it won’t go on forever. Lockdown will ease up somewhat with restrictions then it will be business as usual ...the way of the world
It’s true people are doing their best but eventually they will do more n more like we are already seeing. The world has to move forward it ain’t gonna be lockdown for years to come it’s just not going to happen let’s face it. No one knows when there’s gonna be a vaccine so what if we don’t have one for ten years ...come on be realistic. No the world is already opening up you just have to go to B&Q to see that. So many more people about than there were a couple of weeks ago. I wonder tho with all this disinfectanting happening will it rid MRSA in hospitals
Indeed
My perspective is freedom will be based upon social acceptance and not a mathematical factual basis upon all diseases
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"Have no intention of meeting anyone whether that be people I've met before or new people, from here or anywhere else in my life for close personal contact until such time that I am as sure as I can be that it is safe to do so - which may well be until a vaccine is available or there is a known cure available if it is contracted
My life and that of others is far more important to me than sex"
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"Depends really if I’ve had it or not and what happens when people start going back to work and if/when social distancing is reduced lots of different factors to consider, probably means no meets this year but who knows??
That’s it lots of factors come into play and. I one knows yet. But agree it’s unlikely no meets this year
Actually no
That's my point a lot of factors dont come into play
Dont want personally then stay home and when go out use effectively ppe that you have had fail safe training with
Cleanse everything delivered and bought
Ok
You dont mind getting it but
You dont want to pass it on or burden NHS
Same rules as above possibly forever
Ok you dont mind getting it
You dont mind everyone apart from friends and family
You stop being concerned about NHS
Then you can go out mingle freely however you cannot see friends or family without the extreme ppe
Anything else is pretending you're not taking a risk with your loved ones
So you are effectively saying no one will return to work, go outside, kids go back to school, forever in lock down ?
You know that’s not sustainable right.... some sort of normality and living with this will have to return at some point. What that is no one knows, but it definitely won’t be everyone cooped up in their homes never to socialise, see family or work again
No I'm saying you will
And I'm saying when you do you will put to the back of your mind the diseases you will spread the risks you will pass something on to a loved one
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Until more is known about this one, it’s a risk I’m not willing to take as previously stated, for the sake of sex |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
There and to the left a bit |
"Have no intention of meeting anyone whether that be people I've met before or new people, from here or anywhere else in my life for close personal contact until such time that I am as sure as I can be that it is safe to do so - which may well be until a vaccine is available or there is a known cure available if it is contracted
My life and that of others is far more important to me than sex
You realise a widely available vaccine is 9 months to a year away? "
Yep and if that's what it takes to wait to be reasonably certain then so be it - I'm not so desperate for sex that I'd put my life or others lives at risk for it.
Ultimately though it comes down to common sense and awareness just as it has before this all kicked off - you weigh up the various risk factors (and regardless of what anyone else might say they are there) available to you at a given time and make a decision based on them based on that awareness and common sense.
Right now I wouldn't meet anyone for love nor money - who knows what will be known in 2 months time, 3 months, 6 months, a year etc - my stance may change dependent on those risk factors - but it will still come down to a reasonable level of certainty that I am not putting myself or others at risk.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Have no intention of meeting anyone whether that be people I've met before or new people, from here or anywhere else in my life for close personal contact until such time that I am as sure as I can be that it is safe to do so - which may well be until a vaccine is available or there is a known cure available if it is contracted
My life and that of others is far more important to me than sex
You realise a widely available vaccine is 9 months to a year away?
Yep and if that's what it takes to wait to be reasonably certain then so be it - I'm not so desperate for sex that I'd put my life or others lives at risk for it.
Ultimately though it comes down to common sense and awareness just as it has before this all kicked off - you weigh up the various risk factors (and regardless of what anyone else might say they are there) available to you at a given time and make a decision based on them based on that awareness and common sense.
Right now I wouldn't meet anyone for love nor money - who knows what will be known in 2 months time, 3 months, 6 months, a year etc - my stance may change dependent on those risk factors - but it will still come down to a reasonable level of certainty that I am not putting myself or others at risk.
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