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By *nabelle21 OP   Woman  over a year ago

B38

So you have a professional job...nice one. So that makes you middle class, yes.

What happens if you lose said job. I dunno and take up a cleaning job to make ends meet..if that's not beneath you that is.

So would you do what needs to pay the bills?

If so are you still middle class?

Is middle class a state of mind?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yes I would. I would still call ot middle class there.

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By *aomilatteCouple  over a year ago

Midlands

Does class or job matter?

Does anyones job matter to anyone else?

PS nice bum

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So you have a professional job...nice one. So that makes you middle class, yes.

What happens if you lose said job. I dunno and take up a cleaning job to make ends meet..if that's not beneath you that is.

So would you do what needs to pay the bills?

If so are you still middle class?

Is middle class a state of mind?"

Good questions and I for one, am interested in the answers.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So you have a professional job...nice one. So that makes you middle class, yes.

What happens if you lose said job. I dunno and take up a cleaning job to make ends meet..if that's not beneath you that is.

So would you do what needs to pay the bills?

If so are you still middle class?

Is middle class a state of mind?"

you are an unemployed aspirational snob

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I can't believe that our society is still hung up on this class structure. I think it's barmy.

We're all human beings.

I'd say that this pandemic has proved that there are some jobs that are far more important than any of us had realised.

A great example is the story of the Janitor at the Cape Kennedy space centre.

There was a tour being given and this Janitor happened to be in the vicinity and one of the guests being shown around asked what he did, to which he replied that he put a man on the moon.

And he was right.

Because, if he hadn't done his job, it would have impacted on the whole facility.

I am no more or less important than anyone

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I believe the lines are far too blurred on a defined class system these days.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Does class or job matter?

Does anyones job matter to anyone else?

PS nice bum "

i met two doctors on nudist beach last year

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex

Do people still judge based on class? If so I'm working class but had a profession. I will always be working class by accident of birth. I'm neither proud not ashamed of this, it's just a fact about me.

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By *nabelle21 OP   Woman  over a year ago

B38


"Does class or job matter?

Does anyones job matter to anyone else?

PS nice bum "

Working class bum here

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By *ntrigued32Couple  over a year ago

Nottingham

It's a funny one for sure.

Redundancy affects everyone and when you have no money coming in and can't pay your mortgage.

The struggle is real.

People should just concentrate on themselves if they have no heart for others.

Don't judge what you don't understand.

Jo.Xx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Does class or job matter?

Does anyones job matter to anyone else?

PS nice bum

Working class bum here "

you are upper arse then....... i mean class

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So you have a professional job...nice one. So that makes you middle class, yes.

What happens if you lose said job. I dunno and take up a cleaning job to make ends meet..if that's not beneath you that is.

So would you do what needs to pay the bills?

If so are you still middle class?

Is middle class a state of mind?"

I think it's more a 'state of mind' - someone could be dirt poor but still 'middle class' an individual's aspirations and vibe reveal all

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By *oxychicWoman  over a year ago

Nottinghamshire

I'm me

I dont do the class thing we all the same at the end of the day just some have more money than others dont buy you happiness tho

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By *dam1971Man  over a year ago

Bedford

I don’t own mustard coloured corduroy trousers so I’m not upper class.

I don’t have a new car so I’m not middle class.

I don’t wear a donkey jacket so I’m not working class.

Most of all, I know that the statements I made above are bollocks and I don’t care about class.

I just care if you’re worth knowing or not

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By * and M lookingCouple  over a year ago

Worcester

[Removed by poster at 27/04/20 09:30:16]

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By * and M lookingCouple  over a year ago

Worcester


"So you have a professional job...nice one. So that makes you middle class, yes.

What happens if you lose said job. I dunno and take up a cleaning job to make ends meet..if that's not beneath you that is.

So would you do what needs to pay the bills?

If so are you still middle class?

Is middle class a state of mind?"

Maybe if you cleaned for someone middle class it might rub off and give you your status back

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm from a working class family, have no job and fly business class. What class am I?

Sounds like a good riddle.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I (Mr) have always said I'm lower class, maybe my upbringing and having nowt. I couldn't care what class anyone is, just don't be a dick

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By *dam1971Man  over a year ago

Bedford


"I'm from a working class family, have no job and fly business class. What class am I?

Sounds like a good riddle. "

If you’re flying right now that probably makes you a bird

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm from a working class family, have no job and fly business class. What class am I?

Sounds like a good riddle.

If you’re flying right now that probably makes you a bird "

No. Not flying.

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By *oupleforxtrafunCouple  over a year ago

Nottingham

So are we saying your class all depends on what job role you have ?

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By *unkym34Man  over a year ago

London


"So you have a professional job...nice one. So that makes you middle class, yes.

What happens if you lose said job. I dunno and take up a cleaning job to make ends meet..if that's not beneath you that is.

So would you do what needs to pay the bills?

If so are you still middle class?

Is middle class a state of mind?"

middle class is nothing to do the your job or the money you earn it’s a state of mind. Middle class people are just middle class that’s the way it is. They are the type of people who share a micro bag of rice between two people lol. Nothing wrong with being middle class but it’s a out dated term that really needs to be changed to more fit our time.

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By *ovestrapMan  over a year ago

London

O dear..

No you are no longer middle class in the eyes of society.

Sad sa that is, it's fact.

We as a society still follow the class system.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Working class I’d say. But I’m a stay at home carer for my sons so get treated like lower than low class mostly x

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By * and M lookingCouple  over a year ago

Worcester


"So you have a professional job...nice one. So that makes you middle class, yes.

What happens if you lose said job. I dunno and take up a cleaning job to make ends meet..if that's not beneath you that is.

So would you do what needs to pay the bills?

If so are you still middle class?

Is middle class a state of mind? middle class is nothing to do the your job or the money you earn it’s a state of mind. Middle class people are just middle class that’s the way it is. They are the type of people who share a micro bag of rice between two people lol. Nothing wrong with being middle class but it’s a out dated term that really needs to be changed to more fit our time. "

Why? yet another "label" that's not needed.

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By *ensualtouch15Man  over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"So you have a professional job...nice one. So that makes you middle class, yes.

What happens if you lose said job. I dunno and take up a cleaning job to make ends meet..if that's not beneath you that is.

So would you do what needs to pay the bills?

If so are you still middle class?

Is middle class a state of mind?"

Ha ha

I transcend class

Oh as do most people

The class system is a blunt tool that creates more confusion than it solves a category

Humans in my opinion can be categorized however

I feel they are subjective nuanced and very open to prejudice

I blame the chavs and the nobs

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By *unkym34Man  over a year ago

London


"So you have a professional job...nice one. So that makes you middle class, yes.

What happens if you lose said job. I dunno and take up a cleaning job to make ends meet..if that's not beneath you that is.

So would you do what needs to pay the bills?

If so are you still middle class?

Is middle class a state of mind? middle class is nothing to do the your job or the money you earn it’s a state of mind. Middle class people are just middle class that’s the way it is. They are the type of people who share a micro bag of rice between two people lol. Nothing wrong with being middle class but it’s a out dated term that really needs to be changed to more fit our time.

Why? yet another "label" that's not needed. "

why? People are different it’s simple really. It’s same as being a head banger, raver and so on groups of people are different

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By *unkym34Man  over a year ago

London


"So you have a professional job...nice one. So that makes you middle class, yes.

What happens if you lose said job. I dunno and take up a cleaning job to make ends meet..if that's not beneath you that is.

So would you do what needs to pay the bills?

If so are you still middle class?

Is middle class a state of mind?

Ha ha

I transcend class

Oh as do most people

The class system is a blunt tool that creates more confusion than it solves a category

Humans in my opinion can be categorized however

I feel they are subjective nuanced and very open to prejudice

I blame the chavs and the nobs "

what have the council housed and violent got to do with any of this ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm class clown and that's ok with me.

As far as the rest of it goes, I don't care if you're rich, poor or somewhere in between. Be a good human, that's all I expect.

P

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So you have a professional job...nice one. So that makes you middle class, yes.

What happens if you lose said job. I dunno and take up a cleaning job to make ends meet..if that's not beneath you that is.

So would you do what needs to pay the bills?

If so are you still middle class?

Is middle class a state of mind? middle class is nothing to do the your job or the money you earn it’s a state of mind. Middle class people are just middle class that’s the way it is. They are the type of people who share a micro bag of rice between two people lol. Nothing wrong with being middle class but it’s a out dated term that really needs to be changed to more fit our time.

Why? yet another "label" that's not needed. "

i love labels helps me remember who and where i am

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So you have a professional job...nice one. So that makes you middle class, yes.

What happens if you lose said job. I dunno and take up a cleaning job to make ends meet..if that's not beneath you that is.

So would you do what needs to pay the bills?

If so are you still middle class?

Is middle class a state of mind?"

I don't do class, creed, sex, race, age etc. It all comes down to one's thought process and perceptions of themselves and the world around them.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I believe the lines are far too blurred on a defined class system these days. "

I agree with this

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm a working class survivor or am i an upper class survivor who knows who cares

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By *alandNitaCouple  over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"So you have a professional job...nice one. So that makes you middle class, yes.

What happens if you lose said job. I dunno and take up a cleaning job to make ends meet..if that's not beneath you that is.

So would you do what needs to pay the bills?

If so are you still middle class?

Is middle class a state of mind?"

I don't subscribe to the class system, I am devoid of any level of class. I am an IT professional though so that makes me a professional.

Cal

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By *hilloutMan  over a year ago

All over the place! Northwesr, , Southwest

From my understanding middle class is defined by their income bracket and levels of low deprivation in a number of indicators.

I would do what it would take to survive and pay the bills, though realistically i'd never be out of a job in my line of work.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Does having a professional job make one middle-class? Also, does a job define someone as a person?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Interesting question. In my experience so much is judged about a person based on their accent. I don’t think it’s class, more whether you’re posh or not and that, in my opinion, is a state of mind.

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By *oirinMarkusCouple  over a year ago

West Midlands and West London


"So you have a professional job...nice one. So that makes you middle class, yes.

What happens if you lose said job. I dunno and take up a cleaning job to make ends meet..if that's not beneath you that is.

So would you do what needs to pay the bills?

If so are you still middle class?

Is middle class a state of mind? middle class is nothing to do the your job or the money you earn it’s a state of mind. Middle class people are just middle class that’s the way it is. They are the type of people who share a micro bag of rice between two people lol. Nothing wrong with being middle class but it’s a out dated term that really needs to be changed to more fit our time. "

Woah woah woah I love sharing the micro bag of rice, quinoa etc but that's not the standard, they sell those in every supermarket and it's not posh!

Quail egg buyers are the true middle class, surely?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Said that I have been told of couple of times for wearing casuals to an airport lounge. Emirates is the worst. Air NZ is the most relaxed!

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By *nabelle21 OP   Woman  over a year ago

B38


"Said that I have been told of couple of times for wearing casuals to an airport lounge. Emirates is the worst. Air NZ is the most relaxed!"

Surely that only matters if you're the captian!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Said that I have been told of couple of times for wearing casuals to an airport lounge. Emirates is the worst. Air NZ is the most relaxed!

Surely that only matters if you're the captian!"

Nope. I go in with shorts and Jandals. They don't like it.

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By *nabelle21 OP   Woman  over a year ago

B38


"Said that I have been told of couple of times for wearing casuals to an airport lounge. Emirates is the worst. Air NZ is the most relaxed!

Surely that only matters if you're the captian!

Nope. I go in with shorts and Jandals. They don't like it. "

You rebel,.you

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'd have no problems working at McDonald's if I had too and was desperate for the money.

It's better to be earning something than nothing

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So you have a professional job...nice one. So that makes you middle class, yes.

What happens if you lose said job. I dunno and take up a cleaning job to make ends meet..if that's not beneath you that is.

So would you do what needs to pay the bills?

If so are you still middle class?

Is middle class a state of mind?"

As far as I am concerned being professional has nothing to do with class, it is more to do with education and job type and the opportunities are there for anyone to gain higher education and job type.

Lawyers, doctors and nurses are all classed as professionals... However, in my eyes, if you are an expert in your field and carry out your job to the highest standard then that makes you professional...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Working class and proud. When I see a profile with the statement " professional " I just think snobby bastard. All our jobs are important. Why think you're better than someone else because of your job title. It's just another method of division. And I think we have enough of that shit.

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By *edHeadedFunWoman  over a year ago

Didsbury

But don't most people have a professional job. What defines professional.

Professional Hairdressers, they have trained to earn the right of the title of professional.

Electricians again a lot of training and I certainly wouldn't let a trainee mess around with my wiring.

I think the term professional is highly overused on here and in society to make someone feel superior when they are not.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Middle Class seems to be more and more a term used in a derogatory manner,as a form of reverse snobbery in my opinion.

Most "middle class" work, so are they not working class?

The class concept is rather old fashioned. You have poorly paid jobs and well paid jobs, and in reality most sensible people aspire to progress to better things? Should we feel animosity to those who earn more, and are more affluent when we probably want the same?

It's how people act when they're better off that's relevant? Mind you that applies to those without?

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By *avedoes2017Man  over a year ago

Watford / Dorset

I try to be nice....

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By *rwhowhatwherewhyMan  over a year ago

Aylesbury

I class myself as working class, even though my parents class themselves as middle class. I guess its just a mentality.

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By *nabelle21 OP   Woman  over a year ago

B38


"I try to be nice...."

me too x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I get paid hourly not salary, so working class for me

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I get paid hourly not salary, so working class for me "

I'm salaried but working class if you want to call it that. All rather ridiculous. You either have class or you don't & who cares either way

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By *inkysexpotMan  over a year ago

leeds

I work for the council on the roads tarmacing, got chatting to someone and when I told them my profession they said they wasnt interested in common working class people

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By *ily WhiteWoman  over a year ago

?

Profession and class don't necessarily correlate any longer. The national minimum wage, new industries, different ways of living, and decline of the "traditional" nuclear family unit have blurred the edges of the class system so that it is no longer defined by pay bracket. To me class nowadays is more of an attitude, personal bearing as it were, with a definite nod towards social etiquette.

Just my opinion

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By *ust PeachyWoman  over a year ago

Prestonish


"Working class I’d say. But I’m a stay at home carer for my sons so get treated like lower than low class mostly x "

Disagree entirely. Don’t see you often but you’re definitely one of my favourite people. You’re in the ‘bloody wonderful person’ class - which is the class that matters most!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I work for the council on the roads tarmacing, got chatting to someone and when I told them my profession they said they wasnt interested in common working class people "

That's just ridiculous, you have a profession, this then makes you a professional in your area...

The class system is so dated, as someone else posted on this thread further up...

Hope you just blocked them...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Profession and class don't necessarily correlate any longer. The national minimum wage, new industries, different ways of living, and decline of the "traditional" nuclear family unit have blurred the edges of the class system so that it is no longer defined by pay bracket. To me class nowadays is more of an attitude, personal bearing as it were, with a definite nod towards social etiquette.

Just my opinion "

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By *ust PeachyWoman  over a year ago

Prestonish

I don’t - and never have - judge people by birth, job, social status, money etc.

The people I love/get on with are wonderful people who are bright, non judgmental, caring, friendly and fun. They’re also often intelligent people with open, inquiring minds.

There a few people on the forums who clearly think themselves superior to others because they have more money to enjoy the ‘finer things in life’ and like to mention it whenever possible. They clearly think themselves ‘classy’ - I think the opposite.

The wealthiest, nicest, most intelligent guy I know on fab is also quite possibly the most modest. He’s my hero - and I aspire to be more like him!

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By *ex HolesMan  over a year ago

Up North

I’m upper class and I’m looking for a cleaner OP

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"So you have a professional job...nice one. So that makes you middle class, yes.

What happens if you lose said job. I dunno and take up a cleaning job to make ends meet..if that's not beneath you that is.

So would you do what needs to pay the bills?

If so are you still middle class?

Is middle class a state of mind?"

I'm sure i'd survive if I lost my income. I'd simply fall back on my inheritance and if things got really bad i'd probably lease out one or two of my assets.

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By *ce WingerMan  over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

I attended class everyday, well I didn't have much choice really, I went to Boarding School

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If yiu habe to think abiut it or if it matters to you what class people see you as... you are probably working class and there is nothing wrong about that!

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By * and M lookingCouple  over a year ago

Worcester


"I’m upper class and I’m looking for a cleaner OP "

A cleaner or a "Cleaner"

They are two separate entities

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman  over a year ago

On a mooch

I hate the whole class system, no one is better than anyone else because of what you do for a living or the area you were born

You are all human beings at the end of the day and everyone deserves respect and to be treated without prejudice.

If I have to think about it, I still can’t decide what I would fall into. Currently unemployed after being in work for 33 years, 3 years in the service industry and then office based. Grandparents worked in factories and fields all their lives. Parents mixture of forces, retail and accounts.

Although I do see the class system in one family member, who should really remember where they came from and stop acting like they are better than the rest of the family

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I hate the whole class system, no one is better than anyone else because of what you do for a living or the area you were born

You are all human beings at the end of the day and everyone deserves respect and to be treated without prejudice.

If I have to think about it, I still can’t decide what I would fall into. Currently unemployed after being in work for 33 years, 3 years in the service industry and then office based. Grandparents worked in factories and fields all their lives. Parents mixture of forces, retail and accounts.

Although I do see the class system in one family member, who should really remember where they came from and stop acting like they are better than the rest of the family "

People go through life not knowing what to do.

Most are unhappy in one way or another.

The thing to do is be true to yourself, love who deserves it, stand by your decisions.

To some the class system is ive got a better phone than you, and that's sad in itself.

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By *ustBoWoman  over a year ago

Somewhere in Co. Down

I guess I'm working class. I've worked all my life. But I don't own my own house or drive a flash car. I never went to uni or college I left school and went straight into work. And have worked since. I'll probably never be able to afford my own home but I also don't have any debts. I live within my means and am content. Yes there are times I'd love to have a nicer car or holidays abroad I haven't had one of those in 20 years. But I made big changes in the last year work wise. So you never know maybe next year I'll have that holiday.

But I was born what is considered to be working class and will probably die the same but at least I know I have work hard and anything I do buy I have earned.

I do think of someone is made redundant and has to do whatever job they need shouldn't make them drop down a class in society. They are doing what is necessary and anyhow I personally don't like the class system.I despise snobbery and people looking down at others. I judge people not by what they own or what they wear but how they treat other people. After all an asshole is an asshole doesn't matter if they wear prada or cheap jeans.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm definitely upper tier

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I have a good job, I enjoy it and it pays my bills and more besides........ but I’d do what ever is necessary to pay my way ...... so I’d say I’m very much working class, then again as the old saying goes unless your shit smells different to mine, we’re all the same!

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By *otsossieMan  over a year ago

local, but not too local

Luckily I’ve always managed to find an equivalent job, but then I can usually smell trouble and jump ship before it arrives.

Global pandemic economic crash.. I mean, I should be ok because my work is fairly well protected, but who can say?

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman  over a year ago

On a mooch


"I hate the whole class system, no one is better than anyone else because of what you do for a living or the area you were born

You are all human beings at the end of the day and everyone deserves respect and to be treated without prejudice.

If I have to think about it, I still can’t decide what I would fall into. Currently unemployed after being in work for 33 years, 3 years in the service industry and then office based. Grandparents worked in factories and fields all their lives. Parents mixture of forces, retail and accounts.

Although I do see the class system in one family member, who should really remember where they came from and stop acting like they are better than the rest of the family

People go through life not knowing what to do.

Most are unhappy in one way or another.

The thing to do is be true to yourself, love who deserves it, stand by your decisions.

To some the class system is ive got a better phone than you, and that's sad in itself.

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The thing to do is be true to yourself, love who deserves it, stand by your decisions.

This ^ I do with a stubbornness, once my mind is made up there is no going back or talking me round

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So you have a professional job...nice one. So that makes you middle class, yes.

What happens if you lose said job. I dunno and take up a cleaning job to make ends meet..if that's not beneath you that is.

So would you do what needs to pay the bills?

If so are you still middle class?

Is middle class a state of mind?"

If I lost my job I will find another job asap. It's that simple. Wont be begging to the state to help.

Someone needs to do the cleaning jobs. It is important as other jobs. You'll know this if you heard the story of the Janitor and JFK at NASA.

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By *ex HolesMan  over a year ago

Up North


"I’m upper class and I’m looking for a cleaner OP

A cleaner or a "Cleaner"

They are two separate entities "

Both for obvious reasons

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So you have a professional job...nice one. So that makes you middle class, yes.

What happens if you lose said job. I dunno and take up a cleaning job to make ends meet..if that's not beneath you that is.

So would you do what needs to pay the bills?

If so are you still middle class?

Is middle class a state of mind?"

A professional inside of work means you can’t fuck your boss, and outside of work means you can

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"So you have a professional job...nice one. So that makes you middle class, yes.

What happens if you lose said job. I dunno and take up a cleaning job to make ends meet..if that's not beneath you that is.

So would you do what needs to pay the bills?

If so are you still middle class?

Is middle class a state of mind? middle class is nothing to do the your job or the money you earn it’s a state of mind. Middle class people are just middle class that’s the way it is. They are the type of people who share a micro bag of rice between two people lol. Nothing wrong with being middle class but it’s a out dated term that really needs to be changed to more fit our time. "

None of that makes the slightest bit of sense.

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By *nabelle21 OP   Woman  over a year ago

B38

"Never look down on anyone unless you are helping them up!"

I saw this in someone's profile and it stuck.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


""Never look down on anyone unless you are helping them up!"

I saw this in someone's profile and it stuck.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


""Never look down on anyone unless you are helping them up!"

I saw this in someone's profile and it stuck.

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It tends to be the non professionals who look down on those who say they are professional on these kind of threads

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

For me there's just people...even growing up through 70s and 80s I never thought of classomething structure..we are who we are..simples and class or no, surely it's everyone's priority to earn their living whatever the work. That's my opinion mind.

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By *agneto.Man  over a year ago

Bham

Grew up working class. Have a profession that would now indicate I'm middle class.

However I still consider myself the same, and working class.

So I think it's more of how you or other people view you.

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