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"What's with the inclusion of downing and glen boy Johnson! Smalling and Lennon would have been far better" Deffo agree with Lennon | |||
"tell me who isin it then. give the dog a bone! lol" The Squad Goalkeepers Robert Green (West Ham United), Joe Hart (Manchester City), John Ruddy (Norwich City). Defenders Leighton Baines (Everton), Gary Cahill (Chelsea), Ashley Cole (Chelsea), Glen Johnson (Liverpool), Phil Jones (Manchester United), Joleon Lescott (Manchester City), John Terry (Chelsea). Midfielders Gareth Barry (Manchester City), Stewart Downing (Liverpool), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), Frank Lampard (Chelsea), James Milner (Manchester City), Scott Parker (Tottenham Hotspur), Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal), Theo Walcott (Arsenal), Ashley Young (Manchester United). Forwards Andy Carroll (Liverpool), Wayne Rooney (Manchester United), Daniel Welbeck (Manchester United), Jermain Defoe (Tottenham Hotspur). Standby list Jack Butland (Birmingham City), Phil Jagielka (Everton), Jordan Henderson (Liverpool), Adam Johnson (Manchester City), Daniel Sturridge (Chelsea). Captain Is Steve Gerrard | |||
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"What's with the inclusion of downing and glen boy Johnson! Smalling and Lennon would have been far better" Smalling's injured. Squad seems fine. England just don't have that many good players. | |||
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"lescott nearly cost city the premiership, downings had a terrible season and has for andy caroll....oh give me strength.... " Over all Lescott had a good season and although he is no oil painting he is the best option available. | |||
"lescott nearly cost city the premiership, downings had a terrible season and has for andy caroll....oh give me strength.... " . i think you can Blame Dalglish for Carrolls indifferent season whats the point of playing a big lad up front that thrives on crosses, then don't give him the service, and no i'm not saying is worth the money they paid for him, thats down to Dalglish | |||
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"tell me who isin it then. give the dog a bone! lol The Squad Goalkeepers Robert Green (West Ham United), Joe Hart (Manchester City), John Ruddy (Norwich City). Defenders Leighton Baines (Everton), Gary Cahill (Chelsea), Ashley Cole (Chelsea), Glen Johnson (Liverpool), Phil Jones (Manchester United), Joleon Lescott (Manchester City), John Terry (Chelsea). Midfielders Gareth Barry (Manchester City), Stewart Downing (Liverpool), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), Frank Lampard (Chelsea), James Milner (Manchester City), Scott Parker (Tottenham Hotspur), Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal), Theo Walcott (Arsenal), Ashley Young (Manchester United). Forwards Andy Carroll (Liverpool), Wayne Rooney (Manchester United), Daniel Welbeck (Manchester United), Jermain Defoe (Tottenham Hotspur). Standby list Jack Butland (Birmingham City), Phil Jagielka (Everton), Jordan Henderson (Liverpool), Adam Johnson (Manchester City), Daniel Sturridge (Chelsea). Captain Is Steve Gerrard" well, with the exception of Richards, i cant see much wrong with it. decent, balanced squad. will probably see the 2 arsenal wingers play in the warm up game, to see if they can cut it on the world stage (we know walcott is ok, but O-C needs looking at. Lescott has had a really good season at the heart of the City defence, so cant understand the argument there, although will probably be cahill and terry in the middle. hope Hodgeson has learnt from the other managers and DOESNT play lamps and gerrard together, because i sincerely think its either/or. would rather lamps be used to get us out of a hole rather than from the beginning, and this should be spelled out to him to begin with, afterall, making gerro his captain has laid his cards on the table early. can also see Yuong buzzing around off the shoulder of Carroll for the first few games, as we are without Rooney, i hope anyway, as i feel that realy could work. young has an eye for an opening and is wasted on the wing, imo. so im actually looking forward to the championships, although honestly believe it will just be used for the manager to bed in. the next tourney will be what he should be judged on, imo | |||
"not enough quality english players in premier league,thats the problem!. trim the foreign imports and bring along our own talent for next world cup. holt and crouch are scoring goals and should have gone cos' you play strikers when in form,ferdinand is injury prone,slow and past it anyway. as for downing & carroll wasted spaces!." how can you say take players in form, yet leave carroll behind? in the last few weeks he has been 2nd best at liverpool, behind suarez, and he doesnt count | |||
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"downing....should be called drowning...awful milner...hmmmmmmmm would have taken sturridge and carrick & I am going to the UKRAINE " carrick, to me, is another mcmanoman. fantastic at domestic level, but out of depth on the internationl stage, accept against the smaller nations. admittedly, i wouldnt take milner as he has hardly played this term, and also, he is TOO versatile, if that can be a bad thing. he has no actual position so cant nail down a place. | |||
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"Give it a few years and the England players will all be coming from the championship..then you really will see us struggle! It will be interesting to see what the stupid old fools at the FA and the T.V pundits say about foreign players and their effect on the 'english' game then...when its too late." you say that, BUT, as has been proven with Norwich, QPR and Swansea staying up this year, the Championship has a very high standard of football being played in it. singularly THE most competetive league in the world. could you have chosen the 3 that went up/down at the start of the season? i couldnt. you could have a fair idea who the bottom and top 10 would be, but no idea what order. | |||
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"Same old same old guard. Shud have grant holt in. What do fabbers think ?? " holt is one of those players who would have been good to throw on when things arent working out, can score at the bad times if you get my meaning, but then who would you have dropped to take him?? carroll?, defo??, walcott? | |||
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"right.. where do i start.... i would have taken rio instead of terry....arron Lennon instead of downing.... and would have chosen grant holt instead of both defoe and carroll.... micah richards is baffling as it looks like england are only taking 7 defenders.... i would have taken 8....." Downing is a good player and more importantly a left winger. lennon is not. | |||
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"right.. where do i start.... i would have taken rio instead of terry....arron Lennon instead of downing.... and would have chosen grant holt instead of both defoe and carroll.... micah richards is baffling as it looks like england are only taking 7 defenders.... i would have taken 8....." i agrre with _abio on micah richards and give grant holt a chance,,,rio no chance thou! now would anybody like to comment on mr oxlade chamberlain...ps i do his dad mark n uncle nev | |||
"All this fuss - for summat we will bomb out off. " So negative! That's why England do so s**t: Fans and the media write them off before they've even kicked the ball! Other countries show much more support. Part of the reason that England do so badly is they don't get the support many of them enjoy at club level so why would they bother? | |||
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"All this fuss - for summat we will bomb out off. So negative! That's why England do so s**t: Fans and the media write them off before they've even kicked the ball! Other countries show much more support. Part of the reason that England do so badly is they don't get the support many of them enjoy at club level so why would they bother? " its only recently that the media have discovered that we ARENT world beaters.....most tournaments the past 20 years we have been built up to bring home the cup i think people are now being more realistic...if we get out of the group stage then i would accept that was decent | |||
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"Don't have a problem with the squad. Some of the players are pretty shit, walcott, but with the timing of taking over, woy doesn't have time to experiment too much. He has experience of tournament football, think we might do alright. Surely first choice strikers from game 3 will be Rooney and welbeck, so Carroll in over crouch ain't no big, Carroll did well for England before. " Tho Crouch has worked well with far more of the players, has a better strike record, and has a proven partnership with defoe | |||
"All this fuss - for summat we will bomb out off. So negative! That's why England do so s**t: Fans and the media write them off before they've even kicked the ball! Other countries show much more support. Part of the reason that England do so badly is they don't get the support many of them enjoy at club level so why would they bother? its only recently that the media have discovered that we ARENT world beaters.....most tournaments the past 20 years we have been built up to bring home the cup i think people are now being more realistic...if we get out of the group stage then i would accept that was decent " I agree people sl off slagged erikson and capello as crap yet thier cord win records were the best two that england has ever had,getting us up higher in the world rankings than we had been for years. Erikson even got us into a comp we were about to get kicked out of, while capello was screwed by Terrys antics. yes they both made mistakes and eventually lost major comps earlier than we would have liked, but we got about as far as i expected and lost to good teams, In reality we are and for as long as i can remember been a top 10 side but are hardly world beaters. we put too much presure.whilst Denmark and greece far inferior sides were able to win cos they had none (denmark didnt even qualify when they won) | |||
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"The only issue I have with the squad is Downing, how he has been selected is beyond me. His form this season has been terrible 0 goals and assists. In my opinion Etherington is a better player as is Matt Jarvis of Wolves. I may be bias being a Wolves fan but he has scored 8 goals and has more than 0 assists and that was playing in a poor side. I think if either of these two had been at bigger clubs they would have been selected, same goes for Grant Holt. " matt jarvis u looking thru wolves plated glasses there n as for stoke players Crouch would have been handy, Ethrington well u would have get him out of the bookies, then Pennant,,,plz take his car keys off him | |||
"Give it a few years and the England players will all be coming from the championship..then you really will see us struggle! It will be interesting to see what the stupid old fools at the FA and the T.V pundits say about foreign players and their effect on the 'english' game then...when its too late. you say that, BUT, as has been proven with Norwich, QPR and Swansea staying up this year, the Championship has a very high standard of football being played in it. singularly THE most competetive league in the world. could you have chosen the 3 that went up/down at the start of the season? i couldnt. you could have a fair idea who the bottom and top 10 would be, but no idea what order." I know what your saying there...but do honestly think the best players from Southampton, cardiff, West Ham Etc could possibly compete against Brazil, Spain, etc etc...we wouldnt have a snowballs chance.. | |||
"Forget England. No matter who's in the squad they aren't good enough to win it. If any of you like a little flutter, get your money on russia to win the euros!!!" My money's on the Dutch,,Van persie and Robben will have an amazing tournament | |||
"Forget England. No matter who's in the squad they aren't good enough to win it. If any of you like a little flutter, get your money on russia to win the euros!!!My money's on the Dutch,,Van persie and Robben will have an amazing tournament " No, that trophy has got Spain written all over it. By a mile. | |||
"Forget England. No matter who's in the squad they aren't good enough to win it. If any of you like a little flutter, get your money on russia to win the euros!!!My money's on the Dutch,,Van persie and Robben will have an amazing tournament No, that trophy has got Spain written all over it. By a mile. " think the germans will have something to say about that | |||
"All this fuss - for summat we will bomb out off. So negative! That's why England do so s**t: Fans and the media write them off before they've even kicked the ball! Other countries show much more support. Part of the reason that England do so badly is they don't get the support many of them enjoy at club level so why would they bother? its only recently that the media have discovered that we ARENT world beaters.....most tournaments the past 20 years we have been built up to bring home the cup i think people are now being more realistic...if we get out of the group stage then i would accept that was decent " Who says we can't be world beaters? we have a lot of quality players coming through. Scrap the "golden generation" and start again with the youth like Germany have done. Have we learned nothing from the ass-kicking they gave us in the world cup?! Of course we have to be realistic but we can dare to dream. | |||
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"All this fuss - for summat we will bomb out off. So negative! That's why England do so s**t: Fans and the media write them off before they've even kicked the ball! Other countries show much more support. Part of the reason that England do so badly is they don't get the support many of them enjoy at club level so why would they bother? its only recently that the media have discovered that we ARENT world beaters.....most tournaments the past 20 years we have been built up to bring home the cup i think people are now being more realistic...if we get out of the group stage then i would accept that was decent Who says we can't be world beaters? recent form in the last few major tournaments tells you that we cant...and we arent! when playing teams outwith the top 10 england can look a team.....when we play against the 'big boys' we get made to look chumps as we cant play possession football " | |||
" Who says we can't be world beaters? we have a lot of quality players coming through. Scrap the "golden generation" and start again with the youth like Germany have done. Have we learned nothing from the ass-kicking they gave us in the world cup?! Of course we have to be realistic but we can dare to dream." Who says?...well the bookies for a start.. We have re0built the team a few times over the years, but still continue to not be able to cut it. Expect the normal 'we will win it for the fans' crap in the news papers before it starts. If we had 11 players with the spirit of Ian Wright and Stuart Pearce then we would have a chance, but all the time we have players who frankly couldnt give a toss about wearing the shirt we will continue to fails... Prediction:- We wont make the semis. | |||