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Joining Fee on Fab

By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

So been having a discussion with friends on fab

And we have all said after discussion it would be beneficial to genuine members on fab that a one off joining fee of £5 would be something that could stop people joining up just to troll

I might get a bann because I used the word Troll on fab forum

I for one have been subject to numerous profiles being set up all week, well 4 and 5 a day all week tbh

I know other genuine fab members have been subjected to this sort of activity

So we discussed about how an initial joining fee might discourage people from joining fab just to troll other people, an initial joining fee but not obligated to be a supporter

A joining fee would deter those who are not actually interested in fab members and what fab is actually about

Just interested to see others people's views on this

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Think it would be a great idea, maybe even a tenner to stop the muppets

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By *iktikiCouple over a year ago

cork

"So been having a discussion with friends on fab

And we have all said after discussion it would be beneficial to genuine members on fab that a one off joining fee of £5 would be something that could stop people joining up just to troll

I might get a bann because I used the word Troll on fab forum

I for one have been subject to numerous profiles being set up all week, well 4 and 5 a day all week tbh

I know other genuine fab members have been subjected to this sort of activity

So we discussed about how an initial joining fee might discourage people from joining fab just to troll other people, an initial joining fee but not obligated to be a supporter

A joining fee would deter those who are not actually interested in fab members and what fab is actually about

Just interested to see others people's views on this "

Agree but possibly more than a fiver

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Unreal how many fake profiles up using your images wren.. If that helps stop it I'd be up for it!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

But that's not fair on those who are nervous and may not stay.

It certainly would turn newbies off paying upfront well it would for me what ever about later on as a choice.

But being forced to hand over cash will turn people off.

And tbh there's members on here that have gold membership and some are not genuine.

Either way it wouldn't work and it would turn people off joining. Yes it would reduce the messer down but it will also reduce the newbies down..

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Well put it this way

Ive an issue all week with someone creating a fake account using my pics 4 and 5 times a day all week

So if that person had to pay £5 every time they set a fake profile up, so far they would have paid £140 this week

Would a troll pay that much

I think not

But can put up as many profiles as they like as there is no charge for joining

I do feel as well as some fab members I've chatted with a joining fee would wittle out people who are only joining because they can be a troll free of charge

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Personally I wouldn't be for it.

I do understand the rationale of it being a deterrent for those who mistreat the site and it's members but it would also cause "genuine" members to leave as well undoubtedly.

As well as an untold amount of people who are perhaps curious but unsure of the lifestyle being turned off using 'Fab' in the first place.

It's not a nice thing to be subjected to and I understand it doesn't ease that feeling by saying it happens in all walks of life but unfortunately that's the truth.

Filters, filters and more filters I personally believe are the best alternative. Along with maybe watermarking pictures if you're afraid of them being stolen.

Ultimately thought, I would never underestimate the persistence and determination of those who currently put their time and energy to bad use, joining fee or not.

That's just my two cents

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"But that's not fair on those who are nervous and may not stay.

It certainly would turn newbies off paying upfront well it would for me what ever about later on as a choice.

But being forced to hand over cash will turn people off.

And tbh there's members on here that have gold membership and some are not genuine.

Either way it wouldn't work and it would turn people off joining. Yes it would reduce the messer down but it will also reduce the newbies down.. "

If your actually genuinely interested in what fab has to offer

Then you would pay a one off payment to join

Big name dating sites charge quite abit more to join

And why

Clearly over time they have realised its the only way to stop nonsense

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Well put it this way

Ive an issue all week with someone creating a fake account using my pics 4 and 5 times a day all week

So if that person had to pay £5 every time they set a fake profile up, so far they would have paid £140 this week

Would a troll pay that much

I think not

But can put up as many profiles as they like as there is no charge for joining

I do feel as well as some fab members I've chatted with a joining fee would wittle out people who are only joining because they can be a troll free of charge

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see that's the downside and I know how feels I've also had profiles set up using my photos. It use to bother me now it doesn't I just report it. But there is no stopping it they will pay the fiver once a week to set up fake profiles. Its 100 percent not fair on those who dont wanna pay or give their card details over to website that they only discovered. Likewise with member's who left and rejoined

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Personally I wouldn't be for it.

I do understand the rationale of it being a deterrent for those who mistreat the site and it's members but it would also cause "genuine" members to leave as well undoubtedly.

As well as an untold amount of people who are perhaps curious but unsure of the lifestyle being turned off using 'Fab' in the first place.

It's not a nice thing to be subjected to and I understand it doesn't ease that feeling by saying it happens in all walks of life but unfortunately that's the truth.

Filters, filters and more filters I personally believe are the best alternative. Along with maybe watermarking pictures if you're afraid of them being stolen.

Ultimately thought, I would never underestimate the persistence and determination of those who currently put their time and energy to bad use, joining fee or not.

That's just my two cents

A £5 one off payment but not obligated to be a supporter seems quite reasonable to me

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"But that's not fair on those who are nervous and may not stay.

It certainly would turn newbies off paying upfront well it would for me what ever about later on as a choice.

But being forced to hand over cash will turn people off.

And tbh there's members on here that have gold membership and some are not genuine.

Either way it wouldn't work and it would turn people off joining. Yes it would reduce the messer down but it will also reduce the newbies down..

If your actually genuinely interested in what fab has to offer

Then you would pay a one off payment to join

Big name dating sites charge quite abit more to join

And why

Clearly over time they have realised its the only way to stop nonsense "
I'm genuine and personally wouldn't pay for any site let alone this one. So is that fair? Pof is free as well that's a big site. A fiver wouldn't stop nonsense on any site

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Personally I wouldn't be for it.

I do understand the rationale of it being a deterrent for those who mistreat the site and it's members but it would also cause "genuine" members to leave as well undoubtedly.

As well as an untold amount of people who are perhaps curious but unsure of the lifestyle being turned off using 'Fab' in the first place.

It's not a nice thing to be subjected to and I understand it doesn't ease that feeling by saying it happens in all walks of life but unfortunately that's the truth.

Filters, filters and more filters I personally believe are the best alternative. Along with maybe watermarking pictures if you're afraid of them being stolen.

Ultimately thought, I would never underestimate the persistence and determination of those who currently put their time and energy to bad use, joining fee or not.

That's just my two cents

A £5 one off payment but not obligated to be a supporter seems quite reasonable to me "
it seems reasonable yes of course but you shouldn't have to be forced in doing so to a site you never have bin on

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"But that's not fair on those who are nervous and may not stay.

It certainly would turn newbies off paying upfront well it would for me what ever about later on as a choice.

But being forced to hand over cash will turn people off.

And tbh there's members on here that have gold membership and some are not genuine.

Either way it wouldn't work and it would turn people off joining. Yes it would reduce the messer down but it will also reduce the newbies down.. "

You have been on over one year

Not a site supporter

I'm really not surprised you have commented as a penny hadn't left your bank account

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"A £5 one off payment but not obligated to be a supporter seems quite reasonable to me "

But is it unreasonable enough to turn away those who currently abuse the site?

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By *onjuan234Man over a year ago

Limerick

You could also make it compulsory to link your acvount to a mobile phone number, then send a text with a pin code to log in for the first time so the number is real

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"But that's not fair on those who are nervous and may not stay.

It certainly would turn newbies off paying upfront well it would for me what ever about later on as a choice.

But being forced to hand over cash will turn people off.

And tbh there's members on here that have gold membership and some are not genuine.

Either way it wouldn't work and it would turn people off joining. Yes it would reduce the messer down but it will also reduce the newbies down..

You have been on over one year

Not a site supporter

I'm really not surprised you have commented as a penny hadn't left your bank account "
bin here actually 7 years have bin gold member 4 times in the past I don't use the site this often hence why I dont pay for extras. So yes I have done so in the past

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By *ealitybitesMan over a year ago

Belfast

I think it would be an excellent idea. £5 wouldn't put anyone off who was genuinely interested but it would make the persistent offenders think twice. Another option would be to have every new member be photo verified before their profile was complete and made public.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You could also make it compulsory to link your acvount to a mobile phone number, then send a text with a pin code to log in for the first time so the number is real"
this makes sense an if you delete your profile you wouldn't be allowed to rejoin say for 30 days or so

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"A £5 one off payment but not obligated to be a supporter seems quite reasonable to me

But is it unreasonable enough to turn away those who currently abuse the site? "

Your statement doesn't make sense

If I owned an online business and a member abused the site

Regardless as to whether they paid a fee and broke the rules they would be dismissed from the site

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"A £5 one off payment but not obligated to be a supporter seems quite reasonable to me

But is it unreasonable enough to turn away those who currently abuse the site?

Your statement doesn't make sense

If I owned an online business and a member abused the site

Regardless as to whether they paid a fee and broke the rules they would be dismissed from the site

"
plenty of full paying members abuse the site daily so what's your point exactly?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"But that's not fair on those who are nervous and may not stay.

It certainly would turn newbies off paying upfront well it would for me what ever about later on as a choice.

But being forced to hand over cash will turn people off.

And tbh there's members on here that have gold membership and some are not genuine.

Either way it wouldn't work and it would turn people off joining. Yes it would reduce the messer down but it will also reduce the newbies down..

You have been on over one year

Not a site supporter

I'm really not surprised you have commented as a penny hadn't left your bank account bin here actually 7 years have bin gold member 4 times in the past I don't use the site this often hence why I dont pay for extras. So yes I have done so in the past "

So then a one off £5 payment wouldn't be an issue

Its alot cheaper than a gold membership

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Your statement doesn't make sense

If I owned an online business and a member abused the site

Regardless as to whether they paid a fee and broke the rules they would be dismissed from the site

To those who currently "troll" and create fake profiles and, in general, abuse the site and it's purpose does that fee seem unreasonable enough to them to make them stop?

I don't think you can underestimate their determination to do that kind of thing, sadly.

It would make them think twice, undoubtedly, but I don't think it would make a big enough 'dint' in their numbers personally.

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By *he English OneMan over a year ago

west

"So been having a discussion with friends on fab

And we have all said after discussion it would be beneficial to genuine members on fab that a one off joining fee of £5 would be something that could stop people joining up just to troll

I might get a bann because I used the word Troll on fab forum

I for one have been subject to numerous profiles being set up all week, well 4 and 5 a day all week tbh

I know other genuine fab members have been subjected to this sort of activity

So we discussed about how an initial joining fee might discourage people from joining fab just to troll other people, an initial joining fee but not obligated to be a supporter

A joining fee would deter those who are not actually interested in fab members and what fab is actually about

Just interested to see others people's views on this "

It's sounds like a good idea but what's stopping these messers from coughing up the cash just to continue what they are doing now I think a face recognition should be a must it doesn't necessarily have to show on your profile if you don't want it to and that face should be scanned through any past issues they have caused and automatically not allow them on the site

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"A £5 one off payment but not obligated to be a supporter seems quite reasonable to me

But is it unreasonable enough to turn away those who currently abuse the site?

Your statement doesn't make sense

If I owned an online business and a member abused the site

Regardless as to whether they paid a fee and broke the rules they would be dismissed from the site

plenty of full paying members abuse the site daily so what's your point exactly? "

When rules are put in place

They are there for a reason

Its also the responsibility of the people who put the rules in place to stand by those rules

So if a full paying on fab breaks the rules

They should be dismissed from fab as much as a non paying member

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By *ustkrissMan over a year ago

Belfast

Seems like any dick can join and take the piss. If your genuine and want the lifestyle then u would be quite happy to pay a small fee.

Linking it to mobile numbers is also a good idea. With limits as to how many times u can set up an account.

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By *arti and PaulCouple over a year ago

Here, there & everywhere

I'd actually feel a lot better paying a joining fee with a verified face pic than joining free and being able to share a verification pic of your body while hiding your face in it!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"But that's not fair on those who are nervous and may not stay.

It certainly would turn newbies off paying upfront well it would for me what ever about later on as a choice.

But being forced to hand over cash will turn people off.

And tbh there's members on here that have gold membership and some are not genuine.

Either way it wouldn't work and it would turn people off joining. Yes it would reduce the messer down but it will also reduce the newbies down..

You have been on over one year

Not a site supporter

So then a one off £5 payment wouldn't be an issue

Its alot cheaper than a gold membership"
So you have lets say a couple who meet separately from time to time thats £5 for the couples page

Now they also have their single pages that £10

they also arrange party'/clubs but have a different account for that €5

so thats £20 in total just to sign up? Because there is plenty of those couples on site

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This is a great idea in theory for genuine fabbers but realistically it's never gonna happen.

Fab is a business and they want to make money. People join cause it's free and they are curious. They then get sucked in and majority either stay or leave but come back again. Curiosity gets to them a bit more and next thing they're a site supporter. Fab now has them curious enough never to leave and never to let the site support run out therefore making loads of money. A joining fee would discourage people to join therefore doesn't make good business sense.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"A £5 one off payment but not obligated to be a supporter seems quite reasonable to me

But is it unreasonable enough to turn away those who currently abuse the site?

Your statement doesn't make sense

If I owned an online business and a member abused the site

Regardless as to whether they paid a fee and broke the rules they would be dismissed from the site

plenty of full paying members abuse the site daily so what's your point exactly?

When rules are put in place

They are there for a reason

Its also the responsibility of the people who put the rules in place to stand by those rules

So if a full paying on fab breaks the rules

They should be dismissed from fab as much as a non paying member "
and they do be removed be it the paying member or the non member either way it wouldn't stop any messers or people who break rules. The only thing it would create is newbies being put off

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By *etite_RosyWoman over a year ago

Now in MALAGA (SPAIN)

In my opinion it wouldn't change anything. Psychos and puffed egos people can be Site Supporters and still behave badly. What stop others?

The best advice will be hide most of your pics for friends view only. And keep your filters up.

I do not complain here or on other websites. Everything is under my control.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"This is a great idea in theory for genuine fabbers but realistically it's never gonna happen.

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exactly that is what I was trying to say

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

How do we know if this is the real Wren?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"This is a great idea in theory for genuine fabbers but realistically it's never gonna happen.

exactly that is what I was trying to say

But then there are people like yourself that don't support and are quite happy to sit on the site for free

Your debating the initial joining fee as you don't financially support the site

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By *ilthyNightsCouple over a year ago

East / North, Cork

Its not so straightforward. Creating barriers to new users will reduce the number of new entrants and could lead to a massive reduction of users (and therefore choice) over time. It could even kill the site eventually. Requiring a phone number registration would put off TONS of people.

I'd go so far as to say the main reason fab is the biggest and best swinging site by a large margin is due to the fact it's free and easy to join and use.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"This is a great idea in theory for genuine fabbers but realistically it's never gonna happen.

exactly that is what I was trying to say

But then there are people like yourself that don't support and are quite happy to sit on the site for free

Your debating the initial joining fee as you don't financially support the site "
I have supported the site 4 times like I told you above. And as I said I dont use it often so why should I pay. I dont want the extras I'm happy the way I can use it. Your happy for the extras

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Its not so straightforward. Creating barriers to new users will reduce the number of new entrants and could lead to a massive reduction of users (and therefore choice) over time. It could even kill the site eventually. Requiring a phone number registration would put off TONS of people.

I'd go so far as to say the main reason fab is the biggest and best swinging site by a large margin is due to the fact it's free and easy to join and use."
the numbers would drop dramatically like other swinger sites that are like a graveyard due to the signing up process and fees

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think it's a great idea wren hit them where it hurts the pocket

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"In my opinion it wouldn't change anything. Psychos and puffed egos people can be Site Supporters and still behave badly. What stop others?

The best advice will be hide most of your pics for friends view only. And keep your filters up.

I do not complain here or on other websites. Everything is under my control. "

I'm very aware on a site like this and putting my pics openly on a profile I can be subjected to issues

And I very aware fab can't police trolling

But my point is if an initial one of £5 joining was in place, it would stop repeat offenders as they would not be prepared to spend money just to repeatedly troll and those people who have paid to be a supporter would actually then continue to support repeatedly

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I'd go so far as to say the main reason fab is the biggest and best swinging site by a large margin is due to the fact it's free and easy to join and use. the numbers would drop dramatically like other swinger sites that are like a graveyard due to the signing up process and fees"

No I don't think the profit margin would drop, as those people who pay to be a supporter would continue to pay to be a supporter

Why did you stop paying as a supporter ?

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By *ilthyNightsCouple over a year ago

East / North, Cork

You're right of course it would stop repeat offenders. It would also put off others who a looking to see what swinging is about and how it works. No easy answer unfortunately. Trolls gonna troll.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You're right of course it would stop repeat offenders. It would also put off others who a looking to see what swinging is about and how it works. No easy answer unfortunately. Trolls gonna troll."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No I don't think the profit margin would drop, as those people who pay to be a supporter would continue to pay to be a supporter

Why did you stop paying as a supporter ? "
theres tons of couples and ladies that are genuine that are non supporters from start to present. I stopped because I didn't see the need for me to continue paying for a site that I am hardly on

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

What if a simple view for 2hrs for someone new

No privelges like messaging etc

Just a view only

Then a one off payment to join

As a business they need revenue from supporters

The people who join and never support aren't paying the revenue

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"What if a simple view for 2hrs for someone new

No privelges like messaging etc

Just a view only

Then a one off payment to join

As a business they need revenue from supporters

The people who join and never support aren't paying the revenue"
so ladies an couples have to decide in 2 hrs weather swinging is for them?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So been having a discussion with friends on fab

And we have all said after discussion it would be beneficial to genuine members on fab that a one off joining fee of £5 would be something that could stop people joining up just to troll

I might get a bann because I used the word Troll on fab forum

I for one have been subject to numerous profiles being set up all week, well 4 and 5 a day all week tbh

I know other genuine fab members have been subjected to this sort of activity

So we discussed about how an initial joining fee might discourage people from joining fab just to troll other people, an initial joining fee but not obligated to be a supporter

A joining fee would deter those who are not actually interested in fab members and what fab is actually about

Just interested to see others people's views on this "

I have noticed a number of profiles directing abuse at you in the past, whatever the fuck is wrong with people.

Can’t handle rejection or what?

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By *ilthyNightsCouple over a year ago

East / North, Cork

"What if a simple view for 2hrs for someone new

No privelges like messaging etc

Just a view only

Then a one off payment to join

As a business they need revenue from supporters

The people who join and never support aren't paying the revenue"

It's not about the money (they have survived long enough without it).. it's about the numbers on the site reducing to a point where it's hard to find people. Folks leave and rejoin all the time. Some would think twice about the rejoining if it wasnt free. Other curious folks woildnt pay if they weren't committed to swinging. That effects all of us. The ckmpulsary paysites ARE shite in comparison.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

All the comments about money but very few of you have actually commented on the torrent if fake profiles that have been set up over the last few days with wrens pics and the same profile name each time used. If a profile is set up and reported and removed and within a few hours their is another profile using same name and pic is set up how is this not been monitored or captured by nominated staff who are responsible for that.

Something needs to be done to stop constant abuse by this individual.

I hope you get sorted wren and the sad individual gets themselves an actual life.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

After a recent bad experience with a nut job I think this is an excellent idea.

But having said that joining as a newbie it would have put me off.

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By *occiMan over a year ago

Co Down

"All the comments about money but very few of you have actually commented on the torrent if fake profiles that have been set up over the last few days with wrens pics and the same profile name each time used. If a profile is set up and reported and removed and within a few hours their is another profile using same name and pic is set up how is this not been monitored or captured by nominated staff who are responsible for that.

Something needs to be done to stop constant abuse by this individual.

I hope you get sorted wren and the sad individual gets themselves an actual life. "

I'd agree with this, is it possible to block an ip address on fab?

One fella near to me has set up 5 profiles now in the past few weeks, all female, same user name with female pics but it's the same lad asking to suck you off. What he's hoping to achieve I don't know but he's clearly using some ladies pics and have give up reporting him now.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Nah, a joining fee would kill the site. The 5 euro wouldnt only stop timewasters from joining, but pretty much every intelligent person who knows to stay away from sex sites that request credit card details. As a newbie, you would have no way of knowing if Fab is a legit site, or just another scam to get your bank details.

I think the better alternative is to use your wits and try suss out fakes and timewasters.

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By *osmicGateMan over a year ago

louth

Bad idea..fab should be free for all ..ignore the scammers

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Something needs to be done to stop constant abuse by this individual.

I hope you get sorted wren and the sad individual gets themselves an actual life.

I'd agree with this, is it possible to block an ip address on fab?

And this is one of the reasons a one joining fee would deter someone joining just to troll

Would they spend £5 everytime they created a new profile, I would think not

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By *eankaren88Couple over a year ago

By the sea

Maybe if you had a choice when signing up first !!

Either pay 10 euro.

Get photo verified before you can use the site to be able to post further pictures.

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By *eductively_SweetWoman over a year ago

wexford

I dont understand why ppl think a joining fee would kill fab when the trolls and fakes are already doing just that. There has been countless ppl mostly women have left fab for these very reasons. 80% of the Irish forums have become toxic with such profiles sitting in the wings waiting to attack ppl just because they can.

A 5 euro joining fee won't fix it all but surely it will help get rid of alot of those trolls as they will not pay a fiver every other day. Those that are new and unsure to join it's easy to pay with PayPal and easy to research as these forums are very public.

The majority of ppl i have spoken to in the last few mths have all said fab is gone brutal and worse it's getting. I do feel all that media lately has caused more trolls and timewasters to join. There has to be something to try combat the recent decline in fab more ppl are hiding their profiles while alot more are leaving . So I think a 5 euro fee has to improve it more than destroy it but thats just my opinion

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I dont understand why ppl think a joining fee would kill fab when the trolls and fakes are already doing just that. There has been countless ppl mostly women have left fab for these very reasons. 80% of the Irish forums have become toxic with such profiles sitting in the wings waiting to attack ppl just because they can.

Exactly and if people that worried about paying the fee or it showing on a credit card bill get a prepaid debit card.

Something has to be done to stop or at least curb the crap that people are dealing with on this site.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"But that's not fair on those who are nervous and may not stay.

It certainly would turn newbies off paying upfront well it would for me what ever about later on as a choice.

But being forced to hand over cash will turn people off.

And tbh there's members on here that have gold membership and some are not genuine.

Either way it wouldn't work and it would turn people off joining. Yes it would reduce the messer down but it will also reduce the newbies down..

You have been on over one year

Not a site supporter

So then a one off £5 payment wouldn't be an issue

Its alot cheaper than a gold membership So you have lets say a couple who meet separately from time to time thats £5 for the couples page

Now they also have their single pages that £10

they also arrange party'/clubs but have a different account for that €5

so thats £20 in total just to sign up? Because there is plenty of those couples on site"

Myself and my partner have individual profiles as well as couples profile. All 3 profiles are gold site supporters bought for the longest time available. Around £30 each if I'm not mistaken.

That all adds up to £90 every 7 months or so.

Is it worth it? Absolutely.

So No, it will not deter genuine people from joining. What really deters genuine people from joining is taboo around swinging and worry "what if someone finds out".

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"But that's not fair on those who are nervous and may not stay.

It certainly would turn newbies off paying upfront well it would for me what ever about later on as a choice.

But being forced to hand over cash will turn people off.

And tbh there's members on here that have gold membership and some are not genuine.

Either way it wouldn't work and it would turn people off joining. Yes it would reduce the messer down but it will also reduce the newbies down..

You have been on over one year

Not a site supporter

So then a one off £5 payment wouldn't be an issue

Its alot cheaper than a gold membership So you have lets say a couple who meet separately from time to time thats £5 for the couples page

Now they also have their single pages that £10

they also arrange party'/clubs but have a different account for that €5

so thats £20 in total just to sign up? Because there is plenty of those couples on site

Myself and my partner have individual profiles as well as couples profile. All 3 profiles are gold site supporters bought for the longest time available. Around £30 each if I'm not mistaken.

That all adds up to £90 every 7 months or so.

Is it worth it? Absolutely.

So No, it will not deter genuine people from joining. What really deters genuine people from joining is taboo around swinging and worry "what if someone finds out". "
well that's you but you cannot speak for the hole site you certainly cannot speak for every new member that doesn't know the website and for out £90 would be a 100 percent turn off and I personally wouldn't do it either to a site I don't know. This is the exact same reason why another Irish site is dead because they expected to much from member's its another reason why another UK site is also quite. Though I am in favour of a phone number verification an mandatory photo verification. You must also wait approximately 30 days to send messages or engage with people. There other ways to turn off messers without looking for money

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

As a person who have experienced exactly the same abuse as OP - I know first hand what it's like to just live, mind your own business while some twatwaffle without a name or a face, who has way too much free time on their hands go behind your back and try their hardest to belittle, intimidate you and tell a lot of lies about you to anyone who listens.

Them kinds of individuals clearly have some psychological issues and may need help in real life. Professional help.

Meanwhile it would be nice to have a way of restricting their power online.

There's 3 ways to restrict it-

1. Ban IP address completely (no, the site would not lose revenue as not only they bully others for free, but they also deter people who may pay from ever coming back). And yes, they could secretly rejoin from a different address, but it would make it more of a hassle for them and they would have to leave their house every time they want to set up a new profile.

2. Entry fee (Yes, it may deter some people from joining, but, eventually when the site gets rid of the trolls and most random weirdos who can't seem to grasp how swinging works - sites overall reputation would improve - with reputation come new members, who aren't after ruining someone's day).

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By *ustin-SiderMan over a year ago

Belfast

"Unreal how many fake profiles up using your images wren.. If that helps stop it I'd be up for it!! "

For someone to use your pictures is kind of a compliment in a way but a shitty compliment of the worst kind. You would wonder how people really have nothing better or more productive to do with their time.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Honestly as a woman on fab I wouldnt pay a joining fee. Yeah its all well and good saying itll reduce the messers but itll also reduce the women and theyre already in short supply. We know there are many fakes and we get 10s if not hundreds of crap messages a day but there has to be a better way, a better message filter system, a more inviting site for women not a less inviting one.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"As a person who have experienced exactly the same abuse as OP - I know first hand what it's like to just live, mind your own business while some twatwaffle without a name or a face, who has way too much free time on their hands go behind your back and try their hardest to belittle, intimidate you and tell a lot of lies about you to anyone who listens.

Them kinds of individuals clearly have some psychological issues and may need help in real life. Professional help.

Meanwhile it would be nice to have a way of restricting their power online.

There's 3 ways to restrict it-

3. Mobile number confirmation - I would genuinely prefer this one the most as nobody really has time for running around buying new sim cards. (Only problem with this one - couples like me and Dirk would need a third phone) "
and I have also bin on the scale of a abuse and I hardly mail any girls. Some of which are high ranked profiles mixture of both sexs so either way gold membership rules that out abuse will not stop! As for the ban on ip addresses there's tons of blockers out there that can block it from being shown. I agree with the photo or phone number thing but to ask for money to those just joining is madness it wouldn't work

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Honestly as a woman on fab I wouldnt pay a joining fee. Yeah its all well and good saying itll reduce the messers but itll also reduce the women and theyre already in short supply. We know there are many fakes and we get 10s if not hundreds of crap messages a day but there has to be a better way, a better message filter system, a more inviting site for women not a less inviting one."
spot on

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"But that's not fair on those who are nervous and may not stay.

It certainly would turn newbies off paying upfront well it would for me what ever about later on as a choice.

But being forced to hand over cash will turn people off.

And tbh there's members on here that have gold membership and some are not genuine.

Either way it wouldn't work and it would turn people off joining. Yes it would reduce the messer down but it will also reduce the newbies down..

You have been on over one year

Not a site supporter

So then a one off £5 payment wouldn't be an issue

Its alot cheaper than a gold membership So you have lets say a couple who meet separately from time to time thats £5 for the couples page

Now they also have their single pages that £10

they also arrange party'/clubs but have a different account for that €5

so thats £20 in total just to sign up? Because there is plenty of those couples on site

Myself and my partner have individual profiles as well as couples profile. All 3 profiles are gold site supporters bought for the longest time available. Around £30 each if I'm not mistaken.

That all adds up to £90 every 7 months or so.

Is it worth it? Absolutely.

So No, it will not deter genuine people from joining. What really deters genuine people from joining is taboo around swinging and worry "what if someone finds out". well that's you but you cannot speak for the hole site you certainly cannot speak for every new member that doesn't know the website and for out £90 would be a 100 percent turn off and I personally wouldn't do it either to a site I don't know. This is the exact same reason why another Irish site is dead because they expected to much from member's its another reason why another UK site is also quite. Though I am in favour of a phone number verification an mandatory photo verification. You must also wait approximately 30 days to send messages or engage with people. There other ways to turn off messers without looking for money "

It's just as quiet here.

If you take away every single profile that hasn't been used in over 3 months, every double or triple profile, every floating profile where users forgot passwords so created new one, every profile where men pretend to be women or couples as well as their own men's profile, every 5 troll profiles created to intimidate someone, every profile who just come in for a nosey now and then but have no intentions in interacting with anyone- you'll have about 30% left of what there is now.

Out of them 30% - and I bet only 5% of that haven't been or aren't site supporters.

So no, a fiver wouldn't break their bank and wouldn't affect it that bad.

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By *ustin-SiderMan over a year ago

Belfast

"How do we know if this is the real Wren?

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By *irl4fucking18Woman over a year ago

city

I'm a single girl I for one wouldn't pay for any site that I just want fun on. No way would I pay for joining up done that on other sites in the past for absolutely noting so lesson learnt and I wont do it again. And I am genuine stupid thread if you ask me

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"But that's not fair on those who are nervous and may not stay.

It certainly would turn newbies off paying upfront well it would for me what ever about later on as a choice.

But being forced to hand over cash will turn people off.

And tbh there's members on here that have gold membership and some are not genuine.

Either way it wouldn't work and it would turn people off joining. Yes it would reduce the messer down but it will also reduce the newbies down..

You have been on over one year

Not a site supporter

So then a one off £5 payment wouldn't be an issue

Its alot cheaper than a gold membership So you have lets say a couple who meet separately from time to time thats £5 for the couples page

Now they also have their single pages that £10

they also arrange party'/clubs but have a different account for that €5

so thats £20 in total just to sign up? Because there is plenty of those couples on site

Myself and my partner have individual profiles as well as couples profile. All 3 profiles are gold site supporters bought for the longest time available. Around £30 each if I'm not mistaken.

That all adds up to £90 every 7 months or so.

Is it worth it? Absolutely.

It's just as quiet here.

Out of them 30% - and I bet only 5% of that haven't been or aren't site supporters.

So no, a fiver wouldn't break their bank and wouldn't affect it that bad. "
don't know what profiles your looking at because there's more than 5% that are not site supporters begs the question a supporter says in it either you do or not it's a choice doesn't mean your not genuine

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So been having a discussion with friends on fab

And we have all said after discussion it would be beneficial to genuine members on fab that a one off joining fee of £5 would be something that could stop people joining up just to troll

I might get a bann because I used the word Troll on fab forum

I for one have been subject to numerous profiles being set up all week, well 4 and 5 a day all week tbh

I know other genuine fab members have been subjected to this sort of activity

So we discussed about how an initial joining fee might discourage people from joining fab just to troll other people, an initial joining fee but not obligated to be a supporter

A joining fee would deter those who are not actually interested in fab members and what fab is actually about

Just interested to see others people's views on this "
it won't work

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm a single girl I for one wouldn't pay for any site that I just want fun on. No way would I pay for joining up done that on other sites in the past for absolutely noting so lesson learnt and I wont do it again. And I am genuine stupid thread if you ask me

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this

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"But that's not fair on those who are nervous and may not stay.

It certainly would turn newbies off paying upfront well it would for me what ever about later on as a choice.

But being forced to hand over cash will turn people off.

And tbh there's members on here that have gold membership and some are not genuine.

Either way it wouldn't work and it would turn people off joining. Yes it would reduce the messer down but it will also reduce the newbies down..

You have been on over one year

Not a site supporter

So then a one off £5 payment wouldn't be an issue

Its alot cheaper than a gold membership So you have lets say a couple who meet separately from time to time thats £5 for the couples page

Now they also have their single pages that £10

they also arrange party'/clubs but have a different account for that €5

so thats £20 in total just to sign up? Because there is plenty of those couples on site

Myself and my partner have individual profiles as well as couples profile. All 3 profiles are gold site supporters bought for the longest time available. Around £30 each if I'm not mistaken.

That all adds up to £90 every 7 months or so.

Is it worth it? Absolutely.

It's just as quiet here.

Out of them 30% - and I bet only 5% of that haven't been or aren't site supporters.

So no, a fiver wouldn't break their bank and wouldn't affect it that bad. don't know what profiles your looking at because there's more than 5% that are not site supporters begs the question a supporter says in it either you do or not it's a choice doesn't mean your not genuine"

I'm not talking about ALL profiles as I previously said - most of them are just floating around being useless, only ones, which are in regular use by people, who are involved in the scene.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I pay the site supporter here as it's handy for keeping track of messages and making notes on profiles. Is €5 that big of a deal?

It was a suggestion by the op not a foolproof solution but something needs to be done if people are getting constant abuse especially by one particular person.

Be interesting to see if the IP address could be obtained and take it further at end of day it's harassment

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"But that's not fair on those who are nervous and may not stay.

It certainly would turn newbies off paying upfront well it would for me what ever about later on as a choice.

But being forced to hand over cash will turn people off.

And tbh there's members on here that have gold membership and some are not genuine.

Either way it wouldn't work and it would turn people off joining. Yes it would reduce the messer down but it will also reduce the newbies down..

You have been on over one year

Not a site supporter

So then a one off £5 payment wouldn't be an issue

Its alot cheaper than a gold membership So you have lets say a couple who meet separately from time to time thats £5 for the couples page

Now they also have their single pages that £10

they also arrange party'/clubs but have a different account for that €5

so thats £20 in total just to sign up? Because there is plenty of those couples on site

Myself and my partner have individual profiles as well as couples profile. All 3 profiles are gold site supporters bought for the longest time available. Around £30 each if I'm not mistaken.

That all adds up to £90 every 7 months or so.

Is it worth it? Absolutely.

It's just as quiet here.

Out of them 30% - and I bet only 5% of that haven't been or aren't site supporters.

I'm not talking about ALL profiles as I previously said - most of them are just floating around being useless, only ones, which are in regular use by people, who are involved in the scene. "
but you have to consider people do take breaks I've seen people leave a profile for 6 months an return again just because they are not active in the scene doesn't mean never will be. The site is grand they way it is and no matter what you do you will still get messers there's no 2 way about it be it a fiver or 100 quid

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By *irl4fucking18Woman over a year ago

city

I pay the site supporter here as it's handy for keeping track of messages and making notes on profiles. Is €5 that big of a deal?

It was a suggestion by the op not a foolproof solution but something needs to be done if people are getting constant abuse especially by one particular person.

Be interesting to see if the IP address could be obtained and take it further at end of day it's harassment "
actually yes it would be a lot to be asking from me. You want the features of the messages I dont want it or need it it was a ridicules solution by the OP this topic has bin covered time and time again and this is why fab wont do it because it will drive people away me being one of them!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I pay the site supporter here as it's handy for keeping track of messages and making notes on profiles. Is €5 that big of a deal?

It was a suggestion by the op not a foolproof solution but something needs to be done if people are getting constant abuse especially by one particular person.

Be interesting to see if the IP address could be obtained and take it further at end of day it's harassment actually yes it would be a lot to be asking from me. You want the features of the messages I dont want it or need it it was a ridicules solution by the OP this topic has bin covered time and time again and this is why fab wont do it because it will drive people away me being one of them!"

Topic is covered over and over but yet noone can sort a solution. Pity because the trolls, fakes etc make the site crap for the rest of us who as you said are here for fun.

Happy fabbing

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By *irl4fucking18Woman over a year ago

city

I pay the site supporter here as it's handy for keeping track of messages and making notes on profiles. Is €5 that big of a deal?

It was a suggestion by the op not a foolproof solution but something needs to be done if people are getting constant abuse especially by one particular person.

Topic is covered over and over but yet noone can sort a solution. Pity because the trolls, fakes etc make the site crap for the rest of us who as you said are here for fun.

Happy fabbing "
yes happy fabbing to you also

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I pay the site supporter here as it's handy for keeping track of messages and making notes on profiles. Is €5 that big of a deal?

It was a suggestion by the op not a foolproof solution but something needs to be done if people are getting constant abuse especially by one particular person.

Topic is covered over and over but yet noone can sort a solution. Pity because the trolls, fakes etc make the site crap for the rest of us who as you said are here for fun.

Happy fabbing "
every site you go to has fakes.

No matter were you pay for it or not. You make the site yourself. Of what it has to offer. The trolls as you say you ignore them. If it Gets abusive you simple report them

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I pay the site supporter here as it's handy for keeping track of messages and making notes on profiles. Is €5 that big of a deal?

It was a suggestion by the op not a foolproof solution but something needs to be done if people are getting constant abuse especially by one particular person.

Topic is covered over and over but yet noone can sort a solution. Pity because the trolls, fakes etc make the site crap for the rest of us who as you said are here for fun.

Happy fabbing every site you go to has fakes.

No matter were you pay for it or not. You make the site yourself. Of what it has to offer. The trolls as you say you ignore them. If it Gets abusive you simple report them "

And when nothing is done about the profile that was reported? The issue op has it seems to be one individual over and over creating profiles to target her personally.

And yes ignoring the trolls is probably the only solution as they are on all sites. But I do wonder if people know someone was a bully online would they say something?

Hopefully whoever is causing the hassle cops on and gets a life and realised the whole point of this site is for having fun

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I pay the site supporter here as it's handy for keeping track of messages and making notes on profiles. Is €5 that big of a deal?

It was a suggestion by the op not a foolproof solution but something needs to be done if people are getting constant abuse especially by one particular person.

Hopefully it never happens to you. Words like genuine stupid (sic) and ridicules (sic) aren't exactly helpful.

Then they came for me

And there was no one left

To speak out for me

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By *irl4fucking18Woman over a year ago

city

I pay the site supporter here as it's handy for keeping track of messages and making notes on profiles. Is €5 that big of a deal?

It was a suggestion by the op not a foolproof solution but something needs to be done if people are getting constant abuse especially by one particular person.

Hopefully it never happens to you. Words like genuine stupid (sic) and ridicules (sic) aren't exactly helpful.

Then they came for me

And there was no one left

To speak out for me"
come again? Are you trying to say I dont get abusive mails? I use to get them daily on till I used my message filters I've bin called everything under the sun on here still wont change my mind in a joining fee

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I pay the site supporter here as it's handy for keeping track of messages and making notes on profiles. Is €5 that big of a deal?

It was a suggestion by the op not a foolproof solution but something needs to be done if people are getting constant abuse especially by one particular person.

Hopefully it never happens to you. Words like genuine stupid (sic) and ridicules (sic) aren't exactly helpful.

Then they came for me

And there was no one left

To speak out for me come again? Are you trying to say I dont get abusive mails? I use to get them daily on till I used my message filters I've bin called everything under the sun on here still wont change my mind in a joining fee

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I feel for you

I get them to hence why I don't really send any more.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"But that's not fair on those who are nervous and may not stay.

It certainly would turn newbies off paying upfront well it would for me what ever about later on as a choice.

But being forced to hand over cash will turn people off.

And tbh there's members on here that have gold membership and some are not genuine.

Either way it wouldn't work and it would turn people off joining. Yes it would reduce the messer down but it will also reduce the newbies down..

If your actually genuinely interested in what fab has to offer

Then you would pay a one off payment to join

Big name dating sites charge quite abit more to join

And why

Clearly over time they have realised its the only way to stop nonsense I'm genuine and personally wouldn't pay for any site let alone this one. So is that fair? Pof is free as well that's a big site. A fiver wouldn't stop nonsense on any site "

I'm curious by your comment

You have been on this site for over a year, so clearly you are enjoying the benefits of the site, otherwise you wouldn't stay on the site

But yet you said you wouldn't pay £5 for a site like this, as in you don't the benefits you enjoy aren't worth paying a one off fee

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Well put it this way

Ive an issue all week with someone creating a fake account using my pics 4 and 5 times a day all week

So if that person had to pay £5 every time they set a fake profile up, so far they would have paid £140 this week

Would a troll pay that much

I think not

But can put up as many profiles as they like as there is no charge for joining

I do feel as well as some fab members I've chatted with a joining fee would wittle out people who are only joining because they can be a troll free of charge

I've suggested in the past concerning this very issue as I have had similar problem as yourself, that anyone joining should not be able to message anyone or join in forums for at least a week, also if new then no one can message you for a week too. This would also help people settle in and get a feel of forums and profiles without being bombarded and scared off which I think happens more frequently than we may think.

Either way it's a growing problem.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Well put it this way

Ive an issue all week with someone creating a fake account using my pics 4 and 5 times a day all week

So if that person had to pay £5 every time they set a fake profile up, so far they would have paid £140 this week

Would a troll pay that much

I think not

But can put up as many profiles as they like as there is no charge for joining

I do feel as well as some fab members I've chatted with a joining fee would wittle out people who are only joining because they can be a troll free of charge

Either way it's a growing problem.

I know many years ago when I first joined fab, which was recommended by a friend

I had barely set up my profile and I was bombarded with messages

I left after an hour

My friend then set up account for me and put filters in place etc

So yes possibly a settling period were a profile can't be active as such for a few days might help

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By *oghunter33Woman over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

It's bizarre how emotional some peeps get over a suggestion that is unlikely to happen, some even rather personal against the op, who had a very unpleasant experience this week. Nobody genuinely seeking a bit of fun here should encounter such.

Anyhow I don't think a joining fee would solve the problem of nastiness and trolling but would be rather contraproductive, namely preventing fun seeking peeps from joining.

Measures such like magicfingers suggested would be far more effective imo.

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By *aura66Woman over a year ago

Belfast

I’d support a one off joining fee. Even if it’s a nominal amount of £5 to £10. There are people who make up profile after profile , sometimes multiple times a day just to victimise someone on here. Expose their face pics , their addresses n places of work .

If you had to pay a fiver for the privilege every time you’d soon run out of pocket money .

Not talking about monthly subscription payments here , just a one off fee .

Great idea Wren

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By *irl4fucking18Woman over a year ago

city

"It's bizarre how emotional some peeps get over a suggestion that is unlikely to happen, some even rather personal against the op, who had a very unpleasant experience this week. Nobody genuinely seeking a bit of fun here should encounter such.

Anyhow I don't think a joining fee would solve the problem of nastiness and trolling but would be rather contraproductive, namely preventing fun seeking peeps from joining.

Measures such like magicfingers suggested would be far more effective imo.

"
who's being personal? Everyone has an opinion be it negative or positive OP put up a thread that all sorts of replies can come on it. Doesn't mean people our being personal.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I pay the site supporter here as it's handy for keeping track of messages and making notes on profiles. Is €5 that big of a deal?

It was a suggestion by the op not a foolproof solution but something needs to be done if people are getting constant abuse especially by one particular person.

Hopefully it never happens to you. Words like genuine stupid (sic) and ridicules (sic) aren't exactly helpful.

Then they came for me

And there was no one left

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By *irl4fucking18Woman over a year ago

city

I pay the site supporter here as it's handy for keeping track of messages and making notes on profiles. Is €5 that big of a deal?

It was a suggestion by the op not a foolproof solution but something needs to be done if people are getting constant abuse especially by one particular person.

Hopefully it never happens to you. Words like genuine stupid (sic) and ridicules (sic) aren't exactly helpful.

Then they came for me

And there was no one left

Yet rather than be constructive you start calling the ideas genuine stupid (sic) and ridicules (sic). One would think you having be been there would encourage you to be supportive. You disagree, I get that, then why not say 'sorry its been shit for you, I've been there I know how shit it can be but I don't think charging will help in the long term'?"
as I said its a stupid idea bottom line op can take personal if she wishes or anyone else on the topic but I as a single girl get just as much shit as any other girl here. But for to sign up to a website that I never bin on before would drive me away and go to another free site I cant speak for all. But it would drive genuine girls an couples away. Noting being personal op put up a topic I gave my opinion on the matter she asked noting was said directly at her in personal way. And that's all the comments on here I've red it twice . Goodbye

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I see the account is back again, reported.

Wonder why they don’t just do an IP ban on said dickhead

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I pay the site supporter here as it's handy for keeping track of messages and making notes on profiles. Is €5 that big of a deal?

It was a suggestion by the op not a foolproof solution but something needs to be done if people are getting constant abuse especially by one particular person.

Hopefully it never happens to you. Words like genuine stupid (sic) and ridicules (sic) aren't exactly helpful.

Then they came for me

And there was no one left

Yet rather than be constructive you start calling the ideas genuine stupid (sic) and ridicules (sic). One would think you having be been there would encourage you to be supportive. You disagree, I get that, then why not say 'sorry its been shit for you, I've been there I know how shit it can be but I don't think charging will help in the long term'? as I said its a stupid idea bottom line op can take personal if she wishes or anyone else on the topic but I as a single girl get just as much shit as any other girl here. But for to sign up to a website that I never bin on before would drive me away and go to another free site I cant speak for all. But it would drive genuine girls an couples away. Noting being personal op put up a topic I gave my opinion on the matter she asked noting was said directly at her in personal way. And that's all the comments on here I've red it twice . Goodbye

Everyone has a right to an opinion

The topic is more about debating the idea

Not about insulting anyone

Its also about putting out ideas in terms of finding a way to restrict rouge profiles that join fab specifically to insult and troll other members

If you have any valid ideas I would appreciate your in put

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By *irl4fucking18Woman over a year ago

city

I pay the site supporter here as it's handy for keeping track of messages and making notes on profiles. Is €5 that big of a deal?

It was a suggestion by the op not a foolproof solution but something needs to be done if people are getting constant abuse especially by one particular person.

Hopefully it never happens to you. Words like genuine stupid (sic) and ridicules (sic) aren't exactly helpful.

Then they came for me

And there was no one left

Yet rather than be constructive you start calling the ideas genuine stupid (sic) and ridicules (sic). One would think you having be been there would encourage you to be supportive. You disagree, I get that, then why not say 'sorry its been shit for you, I've been there I know how shit it can be but I don't think charging will help in the long term'? as I said its a stupid idea bottom line op can take personal if she wishes or anyone else on the topic but I as a single girl get just as much shit as any other girl here. But for to sign up to a website that I never bin on before would drive me away and go to another free site I cant speak for all. But it would drive genuine girls an couples away. Noting being personal op put up a topic I gave my opinion on the matter she asked noting was said directly at her in personal way. And that's all the comments on here I've red it twice . Goodbye

Everyone has a right to an opinion

The topic is more about debating the idea

Not about insulting anyone

Its also about putting out ideas in terms of finding a way to restrict rouge profiles that join fab specifically to insult and troll other members

If you have any valid ideas I would appreciate your in put

"
who exactly have I insulted? Please direct me to the comments where I personally directed an insult

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I pay the site supporter here as it's handy for keeping track of messages and making notes on profiles. Is €5 that big of a deal?

It was a suggestion by the op not a foolproof solution but something needs to be done if people are getting constant abuse especially by one particular person.

Hopefully it never happens to you. Words like genuine stupid (sic) and ridicules (sic) aren't exactly helpful.

Then they came for me

And there was no one left

Yet rather than be constructive you start calling the ideas genuine stupid (sic) and ridicules (sic). One would think you having be been there would encourage you to be supportive. You disagree, I get that, then why not say 'sorry its been shit for you, I've been there I know how shit it can be but I don't think charging will help in the long term'? as I said its a stupid idea bottom line op can take personal if she wishes or anyone else on the topic but I as a single girl get just as much shit as any other girl here. But for to sign up to a website that I never bin on before would drive me away and go to another free site I cant speak for all. But it would drive genuine girls an couples away. Noting being personal op put up a topic I gave my opinion on the matter she asked noting was said directly at her in personal way. And that's all the comments on here I've red it twice . Goodbye

Everyone has a right to an opinion

The topic is more about debating the idea

Not about insulting anyone

Its also about putting out ideas in terms of finding a way to restrict rouge profiles that join fab specifically to insult and troll other members

If you have any valid ideas I would appreciate your in put

who exactly have I insulted? Please direct me to the comments where I personally directed an insult"

You indirectly called me stupid for having an idea, one you don't agree with

Which is perfectly OK

As I put on my original post it was a discussion a few of my fab friends had with myself

This is nothing more to see other people's view point

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So been having a discussion with friends on fab

And we have all said after discussion it would be beneficial to genuine members on fab that a one off joining fee of £5 would be something that could stop people joining up just to troll

I might get a bann because I used the word Troll on fab forum

I for one have been subject to numerous profiles being set up all week, well 4 and 5 a day all week tbh

I know other genuine fab members have been subjected to this sort of activity

So we discussed about how an initial joining fee might discourage people from joining fab just to troll other people, an initial joining fee but not obligated to be a supporter

A joining fee would deter those who are not actually interested in fab members and what fab is actually about

Just interested to see others people's views on this "

Think you are right but maybe just put more restrictions on newbies for a few weeks. Limited the amount of messages more and limited the views they came have

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By *irl4fucking18Woman over a year ago

city

I pay the site supporter here as it's handy for keeping track of messages and making notes on profiles. Is €5 that big of a deal?

It was a suggestion by the op not a foolproof solution but something needs to be done if people are getting constant abuse especially by one particular person.

Hopefully it never happens to you. Words like genuine stupid (sic) and ridicules (sic) aren't exactly helpful.

Then they came for me

And there was no one left

Yet rather than be constructive you start calling the ideas genuine stupid (sic) and ridicules (sic). One would think you having be been there would encourage you to be supportive. You disagree, I get that, then why not say 'sorry its been shit for you, I've been there I know how shit it can be but I don't think charging will help in the long term'? as I said its a stupid idea bottom line op can take personal if she wishes or anyone else on the topic but I as a single girl get just as much shit as any other girl here. But for to sign up to a website that I never bin on before would drive me away and go to another free site I cant speak for all. But it would drive genuine girls an couples away. Noting being personal op put up a topic I gave my opinion on the matter she asked noting was said directly at her in personal way. And that's all the comments on here I've red it twice . Goodbye

Everyone has a right to an opinion

The topic is more about debating the idea

Not about insulting anyone

Its also about putting out ideas in terms of finding a way to restrict rouge profiles that join fab specifically to insult and troll other members

If you have any valid ideas I would appreciate your in put

who exactly have I insulted? Please direct me to the comments where I personally directed an insult

You indirectly called me stupid for having an idea, one you don't agree with

Which is perfectly OK

As I put on my original post it was a discussion a few of my fab friends had with myself

This is nothing more to see other people's view point "
I didn't call anyone stupid I called the topic (a stupid thread) how is that directly insulting you??

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I pay the site supporter here as it's handy for keeping track of messages and making notes on profiles. Is €5 that big of a deal?

It was a suggestion by the op not a foolproof solution but something needs to be done if people are getting constant abuse especially by one particular person.

Hopefully it never happens to you. Words like genuine stupid (sic) and ridicules (sic) aren't exactly helpful.

Then they came for me

And there was no one left

Yet rather than be constructive you start calling the ideas genuine stupid (sic) and ridicules (sic). One would think you having be been there would encourage you to be supportive. You disagree, I get that, then why not say 'sorry its been shit for you, I've been there I know how shit it can be but I don't think charging will help in the long term'? as I said its a stupid idea bottom line op can take personal if she wishes or anyone else on the topic but I as a single girl get just as much shit as any other girl here. But for to sign up to a website that I never bin on before would drive me away and go to another free site I cant speak for all. But it would drive genuine girls an couples away. Noting being personal op put up a topic I gave my opinion on the matter she asked noting was said directly at her in personal way. And that's all the comments on here I've red it twice . Goodbye

Everyone has a right to an opinion

The topic is more about debating the idea

Not about insulting anyone

Its also about putting out ideas in terms of finding a way to restrict rouge profiles that join fab specifically to insult and troll other members

If you have any valid ideas I would appreciate your in put

who exactly have I insulted? Please direct me to the comments where I personally directed an insult

You indirectly called me stupid for having an idea, one you don't agree with

Which is perfectly OK

As I put on my original post it was a discussion a few of my fab friends had with myself

This is nothing more to see other people's view point I didn't call anyone stupid I called the topic (a stupid thread) how is that directly insulting you?? "

I said Indirectly

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By *rmrspumpCouple over a year ago

narnia

That's never going to happen, fab works on a 'freemium' model, allow people to sign up for free and then try and monitise the membership with paid premium services. Charging a fiver will deter at least 50% of new users, and the business model goes down the toilet

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By *irl4fucking18Woman over a year ago

city

I pay the site supporter here as it's handy for keeping track of messages and making notes on profiles. Is €5 that big of a deal?

It was a suggestion by the op not a foolproof solution but something needs to be done if people are getting constant abuse especially by one particular person.

Hopefully it never happens to you. Words like genuine stupid (sic) and ridicules (sic) aren't exactly helpful.

Then they came for me

And there was no one left

Yet rather than be constructive you start calling the ideas genuine stupid (sic) and ridicules (sic). One would think you having be been there would encourage you to be supportive. You disagree, I get that, then why not say 'sorry its been shit for you, I've been there I know how shit it can be but I don't think charging will help in the long term'? as I said its a stupid idea bottom line op can take personal if she wishes or anyone else on the topic but I as a single girl get just as much shit as any other girl here. But for to sign up to a website that I never bin on before would drive me away and go to another free site I cant speak for all. But it would drive genuine girls an couples away. Noting being personal op put up a topic I gave my opinion on the matter she asked noting was said directly at her in personal way. And that's all the comments on here I've red it twice . Goodbye

Everyone has a right to an opinion

The topic is more about debating the idea

Not about insulting anyone

Its also about putting out ideas in terms of finding a way to restrict rouge profiles that join fab specifically to insult and troll other members

If you have any valid ideas I would appreciate your in put

who exactly have I insulted? Please direct me to the comments where I personally directed an insult

You indirectly called me stupid for having an idea, one you don't agree with

Which is perfectly OK

As I put on my original post it was a discussion a few of my fab friends had with myself

This is nothing more to see other people's view point I didn't call anyone stupid I called the topic (a stupid thread) how is that directly insulting you??

I said Indirectly

"
and I said the thread was stupid that doesn't mean I indirectly or directly called you stupid!! If you find that offensive that's your choice. By all means it wasn't an insult in my eyes I was sinply directing it at your idea on how this website should be run!

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By *irl4fucking18Woman over a year ago

city

"That's never going to happen, fab works on a 'freemium' model, allow people to sign up for free and then try and monitise the membership with paid premium services. Charging a fiver will deter at least 50% of new users, and the business model goes down the toilet "
try explaining sense on here at times is quite difficult

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I pay the site supporter here as it's handy for keeping track of messages and making notes on profiles. Is €5 that big of a deal?

It was a suggestion by the op not a foolproof solution but something needs to be done if people are getting constant abuse especially by one particular person.

Hopefully it never happens to you. Words like genuine stupid (sic) and ridicules (sic) aren't exactly helpful.

Then they came for me

And there was no one left

Yet rather than be constructive you start calling the ideas genuine stupid (sic) and ridicules (sic). One would think you having be been there would encourage you to be supportive. You disagree, I get that, then why not say 'sorry its been shit for you, I've been there I know how shit it can be but I don't think charging will help in the long term'? as I said its a stupid idea bottom line op can take personal if she wishes or anyone else on the topic but I as a single girl get just as much shit as any other girl here. But for to sign up to a website that I never bin on before would drive me away and go to another free site I cant speak for all. But it would drive genuine girls an couples away. Noting being personal op put up a topic I gave my opinion on the matter she asked noting was said directly at her in personal way. And that's all the comments on here I've red it twice . Goodbye

Everyone has a right to an opinion

The topic is more about debating the idea

Not about insulting anyone

Its also about putting out ideas in terms of finding a way to restrict rouge profiles that join fab specifically to insult and troll other members

If you have any valid ideas I would appreciate your in put

who exactly have I insulted? Please direct me to the comments where I personally directed an insult

You indirectly called me stupid for having an idea, one you don't agree with

Which is perfectly OK

As I put on my original post it was a discussion a few of my fab friends had with myself

This is nothing more to see other people's view point I didn't call anyone stupid I called the topic (a stupid thread) how is that directly insulting you??

I said Indirectly

and I said the thread was stupid that doesn't mean I indirectly or directly called you stupid!! If you find that offensive that's your choice. By all means it wasn't an insult in my eyes I was sinply directing it at your idea on how this website should be run! "

I didn't take your comment personally at any point

And the thread has mixed opinions, some for, some against, and some suggesting others ways to curb rogue profiles

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By *irl4fucking18Woman over a year ago

city

I pay the site supporter here as it's handy for keeping track of messages and making notes on profiles. Is €5 that big of a deal?

It was a suggestion by the op not a foolproof solution but something needs to be done if people are getting constant abuse especially by one particular person.

Hopefully it never happens to you. Words like genuine stupid (sic) and ridicules (sic) aren't exactly helpful.

Then they came for me

And there was no one left

Yet rather than be constructive you start calling the ideas genuine stupid (sic) and ridicules (sic). One would think you having be been there would encourage you to be supportive. You disagree, I get that, then why not say 'sorry its been shit for you, I've been there I know how shit it can be but I don't think charging will help in the long term'? as I said its a stupid idea bottom line op can take personal if she wishes or anyone else on the topic but I as a single girl get just as much shit as any other girl here. But for to sign up to a website that I never bin on before would drive me away and go to another free site I cant speak for all. But it would drive genuine girls an couples away. Noting being personal op put up a topic I gave my opinion on the matter she asked noting was said directly at her in personal way. And that's all the comments on here I've red it twice . Goodbye

Everyone has a right to an opinion

The topic is more about debating the idea

Not about insulting anyone

Its also about putting out ideas in terms of finding a way to restrict rouge profiles that join fab specifically to insult and troll other members

If you have any valid ideas I would appreciate your in put

who exactly have I insulted? Please direct me to the comments where I personally directed an insult

You indirectly called me stupid for having an idea, one you don't agree with

Which is perfectly OK

As I put on my original post it was a discussion a few of my fab friends had with myself

This is nothing more to see other people's view point I didn't call anyone stupid I called the topic (a stupid thread) how is that directly insulting you??

I said Indirectly

I didn't take your comment personally at any point

And the thread has mixed opinions, some for, some against, and some suggesting others ways to curb rogue profiles "
as I said the idea is stupid thats my opinion like others be it negative or postive but not once have I seen anyone being insulting towards anyone it. Im leaving the thread now goodbye happy fabbing an all that craic have a wonderful evening :

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I pay the site supporter here as it's handy for keeping track of messages and making notes on profiles. Is €5 that big of a deal?

It was a suggestion by the op not a foolproof solution but something needs to be done if people are getting constant abuse especially by one particular person.

Hopefully it never happens to you. Words like genuine stupid (sic) and ridicules (sic) aren't exactly helpful.

Then they came for me

And there was no one left

Yet rather than be constructive you start calling the ideas genuine stupid (sic) and ridicules (sic). One would think you having be been there would encourage you to be supportive. You disagree, I get that, then why not say 'sorry its been shit for you, I've been there I know how shit it can be but I don't think charging will help in the long term'? as I said its a stupid idea bottom line op can take personal if she wishes or anyone else on the topic but I as a single girl get just as much shit as any other girl here. But for to sign up to a website that I never bin on before would drive me away and go to another free site I cant speak for all. But it would drive genuine girls an couples away. Noting being personal op put up a topic I gave my opinion on the matter she asked noting was said directly at her in personal way. And that's all the comments on here I've red it twice . Goodbye

Everyone has a right to an opinion

The topic is more about debating the idea

Not about insulting anyone

Its also about putting out ideas in terms of finding a way to restrict rouge profiles that join fab specifically to insult and troll other members

If you have any valid ideas I would appreciate your in put

who exactly have I insulted? Please direct me to the comments where I personally directed an insult

You indirectly called me stupid for having an idea, one you don't agree with

Which is perfectly OK

As I put on my original post it was a discussion a few of my fab friends had with myself

This is nothing more to see other people's view point I didn't call anyone stupid I called the topic (a stupid thread) how is that directly insulting you??

I said Indirectly

I didn't take your comment personally at any point

And the thread has mixed opinions, some for, some against, and some suggesting others ways to curb rogue profiles as I said the idea is stupid thats my opinion like others be it negative or postive but not once have I seen anyone being insulting towards anyone it. Im leaving the thread now goodbye happy fabbing an all that craic have a wonderful evening :

Well you clearly enjoy the benefits that fab has to offer

So I'm curious to know, why you feel a joining fee is stupid

And as I said an initial joining fee with no obligation to be a site supporter

I'm interested to know why you feel its stupid

As you really haven't backed that comment up

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By *irl4fucking18Woman over a year ago

city

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By *irl4fucking18Woman over a year ago

city

I pay the site supporter here as it's handy for keeping track of messages and making notes on profiles. Is €5 that big of a deal?

It was a suggestion by the op not a foolproof solution but something needs to be done if people are getting constant abuse especially by one particular person.

Hopefully it never happens to you. Words like genuine stupid (sic) and ridicules (sic) aren't exactly helpful.

Then they came for me

And there was no one left

Yet rather than be constructive you start calling the ideas genuine stupid (sic) and ridicules (sic). One would think you having be been there would encourage you to be supportive. You disagree, I get that, then why not say 'sorry its been shit for you, I've been there I know how shit it can be but I don't think charging will help in the long term'? as I said its a stupid idea bottom line op can take personal if she wishes or anyone else on the topic but I as a single girl get just as much shit as any other girl here. But for to sign up to a website that I never bin on before would drive me away and go to another free site I cant speak for all. But it would drive genuine girls an couples away. Noting being personal op put up a topic I gave my opinion on the matter she asked noting was said directly at her in personal way. And that's all the comments on here I've red it twice . Goodbye

Everyone has a right to an opinion

The topic is more about debating the idea

Not about insulting anyone

Its also about putting out ideas in terms of finding a way to restrict rouge profiles that join fab specifically to insult and troll other members

If you have any valid ideas I would appreciate your in put

who exactly have I insulted? Please direct me to the comments where I personally directed an insult

You indirectly called me stupid for having an idea, one you don't agree with

Which is perfectly OK

As I put on my original post it was a discussion a few of my fab friends had with myself

This is nothing more to see other people's view point I didn't call anyone stupid I called the topic (a stupid thread) how is that directly insulting you??

I said Indirectly

I didn't take your comment personally at any point

Well you clearly enjoy the benefits that fab has to offer

So I'm curious to know, why you feel a joining fee is stupid

And as I said an initial joining fee with no obligation to be a site supporter

I'm interested to know why you feel its stupid

As you really haven't backed that comment up "
said I was leaving it I also gave my reasons and my personal reason as a genuine swinger. I dont have a book of evidence maybe you can back up your evidence that it will encourage new members and nervous members to join an pay a fee to a website that they actually do not know? Maybe you can supply evidence that it stop fakes it will stop the abusive mails I and every other girl get. Maybe you can supply evidence that people will not nick photos can you back that all up? after all its only a fiver as you say? Some may not have a fiver to spare

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I pay the site supporter here as it's handy for keeping track of messages and making notes on profiles. Is €5 that big of a deal?

It was a suggestion by the op not a foolproof solution but something needs to be done if people are getting constant abuse especially by one particular person.

Hopefully it never happens to you. Words like genuine stupid (sic) and ridicules (sic) aren't exactly helpful.

Then they came for me

And there was no one left

Yet rather than be constructive you start calling the ideas genuine stupid (sic) and ridicules (sic). One would think you having be been there would encourage you to be supportive. You disagree, I get that, then why not say 'sorry its been shit for you, I've been there I know how shit it can be but I don't think charging will help in the long term'? as I said its a stupid idea bottom line op can take personal if she wishes or anyone else on the topic but I as a single girl get just as much shit as any other girl here. But for to sign up to a website that I never bin on before would drive me away and go to another free site I cant speak for all. But it would drive genuine girls an couples away. Noting being personal op put up a topic I gave my opinion on the matter she asked noting was said directly at her in personal way. And that's all the comments on here I've red it twice . Goodbye

Everyone has a right to an opinion

The topic is more about debating the idea

Not about insulting anyone

Its also about putting out ideas in terms of finding a way to restrict rouge profiles that join fab specifically to insult and troll other members

If you have any valid ideas I would appreciate your in put

who exactly have I insulted? Please direct me to the comments where I personally directed an insult

You indirectly called me stupid for having an idea, one you don't agree with

Which is perfectly OK

As I put on my original post it was a discussion a few of my fab friends had with myself

This is nothing more to see other people's view point I didn't call anyone stupid I called the topic (a stupid thread) how is that directly insulting you??

I said Indirectly

I didn't take your comment personally at any point

Well you clearly enjoy the benefits that fab has to offer

So I'm curious to know, why you feel a joining fee is stupid

And as I said an initial joining fee with no obligation to be a site supporter

I'm interested to know why you feel its stupid

As you really haven't backed that comment up said I was leaving it I also gave my reasons and my personal reason as a genuine swinger. I dont have a book of evidence maybe you can back up your evidence that it will encourage new members and nervous members to join an pay a fee to a website that they actually do not know? Maybe you can supply evidence that it stop fakes it will stop the abusive mails I and every other girl get. Maybe you can supply evidence that people will not nick photos can you back that all up? after all its only a fiver as you say? Some may not have a fiver to spare"

Well I would be something that the owners of fab would have to trail to see if it actually works

Sometimes that's how ideas work by trailing them

Until it was some tested out you can't be certain it works

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By *rmrspumpCouple over a year ago

narnia

I pay the site supporter here as it's handy for keeping track of messages and making notes on profiles. Is €5 that big of a deal?

It was a suggestion by the op not a foolproof solution but something needs to be done if people are getting constant abuse especially by one particular person.

Hopefully it never happens to you. Words like genuine stupid (sic) and ridicules (sic) aren't exactly helpful.

Then they came for me

And there was no one left

Yet rather than be constructive you start calling the ideas genuine stupid (sic) and ridicules (sic). One would think you having be been there would encourage you to be supportive. You disagree, I get that, then why not say 'sorry its been shit for you, I've been there I know how shit it can be but I don't think charging will help in the long term'? as I said its a stupid idea bottom line op can take personal if she wishes or anyone else on the topic but I as a single girl get just as much shit as any other girl here. But for to sign up to a website that I never bin on before would drive me away and go to another free site I cant speak for all. But it would drive genuine girls an couples away. Noting being personal op put up a topic I gave my opinion on the matter she asked noting was said directly at her in personal way. And that's all the comments on here I've red it twice . Goodbye

Everyone has a right to an opinion

The topic is more about debating the idea

Not about insulting anyone

Its also about putting out ideas in terms of finding a way to restrict rouge profiles that join fab specifically to insult and troll other members

If you have any valid ideas I would appreciate your in put

who exactly have I insulted? Please direct me to the comments where I personally directed an insult

You indirectly called me stupid for having an idea, one you don't agree with

Which is perfectly OK

As I put on my original post it was a discussion a few of my fab friends had with myself

This is nothing more to see other people's view point I didn't call anyone stupid I called the topic (a stupid thread) how is that directly insulting you??

I said Indirectly

I didn't take your comment personally at any point

Well you clearly enjoy the benefits that fab has to offer

So I'm curious to know, why you feel a joining fee is stupid

And as I said an initial joining fee with no obligation to be a site supporter

I'm interested to know why you feel its stupid

Well I would be something that the owners of fab would have to trail to see if it actually works

Sometimes that's how ideas work by trailing them

Until it was some tested out you can't be certain it works "

This is the exact opposite of thier business model, it would be financially disastrous for them. Fab is a business first and foremost, they will not endanger that. There are other ways to combat abusive people, like IP blocking, but they won't do that either because it's expensive. You're whistling in the wind

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I pay the site supporter here as it's handy for keeping track of messages and making notes on profiles. Is €5 that big of a deal?

It was a suggestion by the op not a foolproof solution but something needs to be done if people are getting constant abuse especially by one particular person.

Hopefully it never happens to you. Words like genuine stupid (sic) and ridicules (sic) aren't exactly helpful.

Then they came for me

And there was no one left

Yet rather than be constructive you start calling the ideas genuine stupid (sic) and ridicules (sic). One would think you having be been there would encourage you to be supportive. You disagree, I get that, then why not say 'sorry its been shit for you, I've been there I know how shit it can be but I don't think charging will help in the long term'? as I said its a stupid idea bottom line op can take personal if she wishes or anyone else on the topic but I as a single girl get just as much shit as any other girl here. But for to sign up to a website that I never bin on before would drive me away and go to another free site I cant speak for all. But it would drive genuine girls an couples away. Noting being personal op put up a topic I gave my opinion on the matter she asked noting was said directly at her in personal way. And that's all the comments on here I've red it twice . Goodbye

Everyone has a right to an opinion

The topic is more about debating the idea

Not about insulting anyone

Its also about putting out ideas in terms of finding a way to restrict rouge profiles that join fab specifically to insult and troll other members

If you have any valid ideas I would appreciate your in put

who exactly have I insulted? Please direct me to the comments where I personally directed an insult

You indirectly called me stupid for having an idea, one you don't agree with

Which is perfectly OK

As I put on my original post it was a discussion a few of my fab friends had with myself

This is nothing more to see other people's view point I didn't call anyone stupid I called the topic (a stupid thread) how is that directly insulting you??

I said Indirectly

I didn't take your comment personally at any point

Well you clearly enjoy the benefits that fab has to offer

So I'm curious to know, why you feel a joining fee is stupid

And as I said an initial joining fee with no obligation to be a site supporter

I'm interested to know why you feel its stupid

Well I would be something that the owners of fab would have to trail to see if it actually works

Sometimes that's how ideas work by trailing them

Until it was some tested out you can't be certain it works

Or maybe they can set up brackets of being a fab member

Like someone new joining

Can only be contacted and contact new profiles for a 7 day period and can't view or be viewed by existing profiles for a 7 day period

It won't stop rogue profiles but to a point it would hinder them

As I said my post was more about hindering rogue profiles, who join fab for no other reason than to troll

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By *rs AWoman over a year ago

venus

Maybe an idea would be everyone that joins is photo verified. These don't have to be shown in your profile. These just show admin the profile is not fake.

A would pay a joining fee if it was required have no hesistaion of doing so.

Trolls are either very vindictive people or have no life that they have time and energy to make the same profile 3/4/5 times a day. Just to try bully someone and that's all it is Bullying.

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By *ilthyNightsCouple over a year ago

East / North, Cork

To those suggesting ip address based bans... its not technically possible. IP addresses change. One day you could have one address, and another day its different. IP bans arent the answer.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I've heard a few people mention IP addresses not being an option.

Now I've a brain pickle.

1. Fab says you can't verify your own second profile - how do they know it's the same persons profile?

2. A friend of dirks created a profile on fab while she was over. Now he can't verify her. We can't leave her a veri from our couples profile either as the couples profile was created at the same address.

So thing I'm wondering about- if the thing that enables fab to recognize different profiles being created at the same address is sufficiently working to stop people from verifying themselves, why that exact same thing can't ban a certain address from creating new profiles all together if that said address have had numerous profiles created for malicious purposes.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Maybe an idea would be everyone that joins is photo verified. These don't have to be shown in your profile. These just show admin the profile is not fake.

A would pay a joining fee if it was required have no hesistaion of doing so.

Trolls are either very vindictive people or have no life that they have time and energy to make the same profile 3/4/5 times a day. Just to try bully someone and that's all it is Bullying.

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its a shame they don't ban them as I have came across a few.

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By *etite_RosyWoman over a year ago

Now in MALAGA (SPAIN)

"I've heard a few people mention IP addresses not being an option.

Now I've a brain pickle.

1. Fab says you can't verify your own second profile - how do they know it's the same persons profile?

I was thinking the same and there are my findings (Im an IT geek)

1) fab might have an automatic filter to block the same IP address to leave verification

2) but does not have a similar filter when creating profiles and log onto fab

3) they can verify themselves using different IP: mobile, work wifi, public wifi etc

4) Sometimes IP addresses might be changed using diff apps

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think an initial joining fee would put off thousands of genuine people from joining. The reason? Uncertainty of outcome is the simple answer.

The reality would be that very few genuine single guys would rejoin again if after deleting their account due to not meeting after a few months. This is a real issue and they would think very hard again about paying out another initial fee to rejoin.

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By *ilthyNightsCouple over a year ago

East / North, Cork

IP addresses dont change for different apps. They change for different devices, and can invisibly change after a time, when a device is rebooted, or when a router is rebooted. Devices sharing the same router can appear to both have the same external IP address, but are actually 2 different devices. Its also normal for IP addresses to be reallocated to someone else. So if you ban an IP you can ban someone you didnt mean to ban.

Any system based on IP addresses to uniquely identify a person will be trivial to bypass.

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By *oghunter33Woman over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

"I've heard a few people mention IP addresses not being an option.

Now I've a brain pickle.

1. Fab says you can't verify your own second profile - how do they know it's the same persons profile?

It's a simple programming loop that compares ip address of verifier and ip address of veri receiver, when they're the same it blocks the verifying process. It doesn't 'recognise' the ip address as such.

For banning a user based on his/her ip address it needs some sort of blacklisting and identifying process which is complete different story. Anyhow ips can be changed easily, even I can do that.

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By *ilthyNightsCouple over a year ago

East / North, Cork

"I've heard a few people mention IP addresses not being an option.

Now I've a brain pickle.

1. Fab says you can't verify your own second profile - how do they know it's the same persons profile?

If 2 users from the same address (eg connected to the same wifi network) try to verify each other then thats a good sign that they might be the same person. Its not foolproof though as a meet might be connected as a guest to their meets wifi.

2 or more profiles created at the same IP address also might indicate a troll.. but thats not foolproof either because plenty of couples also have single profiles.

As I said.. its not simple (and likely to have unintended consequenses)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

But that's where numerous reports come into play.

If a certain address would get reported enough times - surely it would get enough reason to be blacklisted and blocked from creating any more profiles in future.

Yes, it wouldn't stop a malicious person from going out and creating them profiles elsewhere, but it would at least make it more complicated. What if they're doing it while bored at work? They'll not be able to leave work to just create a few new profiles.

Alternatively if they're at home - they would have to physically leave the house.

Counting the amount of those profiles created daily - surely they would quickly run out of places to go and stay at for a while till new profiles have went up.

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By *oghunter33Woman over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

"But that's where numerous reports come into play.

If a certain address would get reported enough times - surely it would get enough reason to be blacklisted and blocked from creating any more profiles in future.

Alternatively if they're at home - they would have to physically leave the house.

Counting the amount of those profiles created daily - surely they would quickly run out of places to go and stay at for a while till new profiles have went up. "

Like Filthynights mentioned above ip addresses can change and be re-allocated to another user. It's not fixed forever thing like a postal code. Simply rebooting your router you can change your ip address.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"But that's where numerous reports come into play.

If a certain address would get reported enough times - surely it would get enough reason to be blacklisted and blocked from creating any more profiles in future.

Alternatively if they're at home - they would have to physically leave the house.

Counting the amount of those profiles created daily - surely they would quickly run out of places to go and stay at for a while till new profiles have went up.

I've changed two phones and whole internet provider yet still can't verify the girl from our couples profile. I wasn't talking about IP address specifically.

There must be something else that stops me from doing so...

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By *unnyfookMan over a year ago

Naas

bad idea, you put people off straight away, maybe if you only contact verified users or users on more than 6 months. instantly try and charge someone will automatically put in their mind this is a dodgy site.

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By *rmrspumpCouple over a year ago

narnia

Using a mobile phone number to verify identity on sign up would help

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By *ilthyNightsCouple over a year ago

East / North, Cork

"Using a mobile phone number to verify identity on sign up would help"

True. But this would also put loads of people off joining.

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By *rmrspumpCouple over a year ago

narnia

"Using a mobile phone number to verify identity on sign up would help

True. But this would also put loads of people off joining. "

It's pretty anonymous,would be protected by GDPR and I doudt it would put off many that were genuine people, it certainly wouldn't bother us

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By *ilthyNightsCouple over a year ago

East / North, Cork

Years ago we were nervous newbies we defo wouldnt have given a sex site our mobile phone number.

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By *rmrspumpCouple over a year ago

narnia

"Years ago we were nervous newbies we defo wouldnt have given a sex site our mobile phone number."

We'd have been the same, however things are a little differant now, sites like Tinder require FB or phone number sign in and it seems to work pretty well, I don't think it would be that big a deal for people who are used to that level of data sharing

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By *oghunter33Woman over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

"Years ago we were nervous newbies we defo wouldnt have given a sex site our mobile phone number.

There's a difference between a dating site and a sex/swinger site. Most will remember the data leak of Ashley M@dison.

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By *rmrspumpCouple over a year ago

narnia

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By *rmrspumpCouple over a year ago

narnia

"Years ago we were nervous newbies we defo wouldnt have given a sex site our mobile phone number.

There's a difference between a dating site and a sex/swinger site. Most will remember the data leak of Ashley M@dison. "

Ashley madison had full names and credit card details.. That wouldn't be required for a phone verification system. And a burner phone is always an option

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By *weet threesome wifeCouple over a year ago

somewhere out there

"Think it would be a great idea, maybe even a tenner to stop the muppets"

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By *weet threesome wifeCouple over a year ago

somewhere out there

"So been having a discussion with friends on fab

And we have all said after discussion it would be beneficial to genuine members on fab that a one off joining fee of £5 would be something that could stop people joining up just to troll

I might get a bann because I used the word Troll on fab forum

I for one have been subject to numerous profiles being set up all week, well 4 and 5 a day all week tbh

I know other genuine fab members have been subjected to this sort of activity

So we discussed about how an initial joining fee might discourage people from joining fab just to troll other people, an initial joining fee but not obligated to be a supporter

A joining fee would deter those who are not actually interested in fab members and what fab is actually about

Just interested to see others people's views on this "

Maybe as said a tenner then membership requirement, I think to message and see profile pics should require a minimum membership like other sites, less chance of time wasters, just saying !

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By *ornyForaLotMan over a year ago

100% agree

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By *oghunter33Woman over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

"Years ago we were nervous newbies we defo wouldnt have given a sex site our mobile phone number.

There's a difference between a dating site and a sex/swinger site. Most will remember the data leak of Ashley M@dison.

Ashley madison had full names and credit card details.. That wouldn't be required for a phone verification system. And a burner phone is always an option

With all the info that is out there a phone number can easily give a person's identity away. Yes there's the fab phone. Anyhow I don't think fab is keen in having those kinda data, it only complicates things on the data protection side of things.

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By *carlettxWoman over a year ago

Essex

Have to agree with this

I have recently changed my filters to stop new accounts messaging as so many are fake

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Have to agree with this

I have recently changed my filters to stop new accounts messaging as so many are fake "
so your saying I'm a fake if i don't pay for it

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By *carlettxWoman over a year ago

Essex

"Have to agree with this

I have recently changed my filters to stop new accounts messaging as so many are fake so your saying I'm a fake if i don't pay for it "

Tut tut now that’s not what I said is it ?

I said I changed my filters to stop ‘new accounts’ messaging me as so many are fake

This means you can still be a non site supporter but have to have your account over a week to message me

Did I say I stop non site supporter accounts ? - No

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It is a bad idea to start charging people.

A lot of people come and go as it stands. Having a joining fee would essentially reduce this site's audience over time.

Not to mention another website would come along offering free memberships like now and steal the user base.

Stopping fake profiles can be done differently. Problem is which avenue.

One is having to provide a phone number for a once off code. Problem is... this is a sex site. Many people may feel uncomfortable giving their phone number. Even if fab genuinely never stores their number in the database.

Two issues tho: if a phone number is not stored then a person could use the same number over and over again creating multiple websites.

Even then there are websites that you can get burn numbers and get the code. Free too. Hasn't stopped anything on POF when they introduced phone numbers.

Fab could implement a feature where you get an automatic phone call saying the code. That costs too much money tho. This isn't Google or Twitter.

It's much harder than you think.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Guess the bully finally got their way. Hope whoever it is is happy now. Another profile set up today using wrens pics. She has been advised to go to police at this stage as it's harassment.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

And for anyone that wants to know what abuse is going on just look up new couples profile created in last few hours. Their status says it all.

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By *ustkrissMan over a year ago

Belfast

Actually disgusting how no matter how many times these profiles are reported that they can just set up another one!! Now a single lady feels that unsafe she has left. Well done

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By *irl4fucking18Woman over a year ago

city

And now OP left was only here 4 weeks paid for how many weeks/months now imagine doing that 3 or 4 times a year doesn't make sense. Waste of money if you ask me pitty she left

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By *rmrs1234Couple over a year ago

Waterford

Whoever is doing this, its disgusting, low and petty. What a sad worthless life they must lead to harass a person like this.

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By *ealitybitesMan over a year ago

Belfast

"And now OP left was only here 4 weeks paid for how many weeks/months now imagine doing that 3 or 4 times a year doesn't make sense. Waste of money if you ask me pitty she left

If you read the full thread you would know why OP left

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By *irl4fucking18Woman over a year ago

city

"And now OP left was only here 4 weeks paid for how many weeks/months now imagine doing that 3 or 4 times a year doesn't make sense. Waste of money if you ask me pitty she left

If you read the full thread you would know why OP left"
I was part of some of it!

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By *ustBoWoman over a year ago

Somewhere in Co. Down

"And now OP left was only here 4 weeks paid for how many weeks/months now imagine doing that 3 or 4 times a year doesn't make sense. Waste of money if you ask me pitty she left

She left due to being bullied constantly on here by someone Constantly making fake profiles with her pics and putting updates up naming and trying to shame her. And yes it's a pity she felt she had to leave because of this vile individual. Nothing to do with her being a site supporter.

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By *rmrs1234Couple over a year ago

Waterford

"And now OP left was only here 4 weeks paid for how many weeks/months now imagine doing that 3 or 4 times a year doesn't make sense. Waste of money if you ask me pitty she left

Left because she was bullied and harassed which no person should have to go through on this site

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By *aura66Woman over a year ago

Belfast

No matter what your opinions are regarding a joining fee or any other method that has been suggested in a hope of stopping trolls and bullies on fab. I think we’d all be in agreement that anyone who’d continue such a sustained attack on a single woman is not only a troll and a bully but also a mentally unhinged sick individual.

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By *irl4fucking18Woman over a year ago

city

Well I wasn't aware that was happening she never said in the thread that her pics are being used by fakes an that's shes getting named or and bullied. If I was her I'd just go to the Garda I had to do it in the past he was traced an charged. Garda don't take bullying easy to be fair. So if your watching the thread op just go the Garda best bet. I wish u well girl hopefully you can come back after all it is a fun site with genuine people on here. We may have our tiffs on topics but we are all here for fun and banter hope to god you catch him. Xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I mentioned in my comments above about her pics been used. Stuff been sent to her verifications calling her name's etc

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By *evil_u_knowMan over a year ago

city

This sites main competition isn't other paid sites, its Tinder.

As such, more users is worth one or two being annoyed for them.

The only reason paying a joining fee makes sense to people is because the site has an active user base. But this level of activity is not guranteed the chat rooms have gone down in activity for example, so have the forums. People like me and curious people would just browse tinder or something if we had to pay just to look.

Thats just my opinion.

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By *ustBoWoman over a year ago

Somewhere in Co. Down

"I mentioned in my comments above about her pics been used. Stuff been sent to her verifications calling her name's etc"

Ye a few people said it but it was ignored by people.

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By *unnitoesWoman over a year ago

Belfast

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By *unnitoesWoman over a year ago

Belfast

"Well I wasn't aware that was happening she never said in the thread that her pics are being used by fakes an that's shes getting named or and bullied. If I was her I'd just go to the Garda I had to do it in the past he was traced an charged. Garda don't take bullying easy to be fair. So if your watching the thread op just go the Garda best bet. I wish u well girl hopefully you can come back after all it is a fun site with genuine people on here. We may have our tiffs on topics but we are all here for fun and banter hope to god you catch him. Xx"

She said this in the thread...

"Well put it this way..

Ive an issue all week with someone creating a fake account using my pics 4 and 5 times a day all week"

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By *irl4fucking18Woman over a year ago

city

"I mentioned in my comments above about her pics been used. Stuff been sent to her verifications calling her name's etc

Ye a few people said it but it was ignored by people."
I didn't ignore it I didn't see it. I did say I was leaving the thread which I did so was no need for me to read true recent replies. Saying that I should have but I hope she gets sorted with it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I mentioned in my comments above about her pics been used. Stuff been sent to her verifications calling her name's etc

Ye a few people said it but it was ignored by people."

Maybe not so much ignored but not comment needed.

I stopped showing my veris years ago because of the same issue. I get people asking to see my veris, some even said you've no new veris as a result.

Too many have started messaging veris with nasty and untrue comments, of course these are people who have never met the person but seem to have a lot to say about them.

I just say if you have to read my veris to make a decision, then make it without seeing them, their loss.

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By *irl4fucking18Woman over a year ago

city

She said this in the thread...

"Well put it this way..

Ive an issue all week with someone creating a fake account using my pics 4 and 5 times a day all week"

"
and why didn't she just report it and along withher friends. Then if it didn't stop she should of just went to the Garda. People to get an people have gotten charged in uploading photos to xxx websites. I went to the Garda twice before and one got charged. I wouldn't even put up a thread about now it would be straight to the Garda station

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By *irl4fucking18Woman over a year ago

city

"I mentioned in my comments above about her pics been used. Stuff been sent to her verifications calling her name's etc

Ye a few people said it but it was ignored by people.

Maybe not so much ignored but not comment needed.

I stopped showing my veris years ago because of the same issue. I get people asking to see my veris, some even said you've no new veris as a result.

Too many have started messaging veris with nasty and untrue comments, of course these are people who have never met the person but seem to have a lot to say about them.

I just say if you have to read my veris to make a decision, then make it without seeing them, their loss.

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well I've had that as well hence why mine are hidden and always will be none of no ones business who an when I met them just saying that may sound crude..

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By *unnitoesWoman over a year ago

Belfast

"I mentioned in my comments above about her pics been used. Stuff been sent to her verifications calling her name's etc

Ye a few people said it but it was ignored by people.

Maybe not so much ignored but not comment needed.

I stopped showing my veris years ago because of the same issue. I get people asking to see my veris, some even said you've no new veris as a result.

Too many have started messaging veris with nasty and untrue comments, of course these are people who have never met the person but seem to have a lot to say about them.

I just say if you have to read my veris to make a decision, then make it without seeing them, their loss.

Thankfully the thread isn't about you and your veries

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By *aura66Woman over a year ago

Belfast

"I mentioned in my comments above about her pics been used. Stuff been sent to her verifications calling her name's etc

Ye a few people said it but it was ignored by people.

Maybe not so much ignored but not comment needed.

I stopped showing my veris years ago because of the same issue. I get people asking to see my veris, some even said you've no new veris as a result.

Too many have started messaging veris with nasty and untrue comments, of course these are people who have never met the person but seem to have a lot to say about them.

I just say if you have to read my veris to make a decision, then make it without seeing them, their loss.

Think ur on the wrong thread as that makes zero sense and is of no relevance to what happened to the OP.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I mentioned in my comments above about her pics been used. Stuff been sent to her verifications calling her name's etc

Ye a few people said it but it was ignored by people.

Maybe not so much ignored but not comment needed.

I stopped showing my veris years ago because of the same issue. I get people asking to see my veris, some even said you've no new veris as a result.

Too many have started messaging veris with nasty and untrue comments, of course these are people who have never met the person but seem to have a lot to say about them.

I just say if you have to read my veris to make a decision, then make it without seeing them, their loss.

Thankfully the thread isn't about you and your veries

It's not indeed, but it was to highlight how frequently it is done but you're a culprit of said behaviour.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Some in here aren't as innocent on this issue as they try to make out.

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By *ustBoWoman over a year ago

Somewhere in Co. Down

She said this in the thread...

"Well put it this way..

Ive an issue all week with someone creating a fake account using my pics 4 and 5 times a day all week"

and why didn't she just report it and along withher friends. Then if it didn't stop she should of just went to the Garda. People to get an people have gotten charged in uploading photos to xxx websites. I went to the Garda twice before and one got charged. I wouldn't even put up a thread about now it would be straight to the Garda station "

They were reported every single time they went up but they just made more. Hence the thread. But sure all she got was crap for that as well. No wonder she left.

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By *unnitoesWoman over a year ago

Belfast

"I mentioned in my comments above about her pics been used. Stuff been sent to her verifications calling her name's etc

Ye a few people said it but it was ignored by people.

Maybe not so much ignored but not comment needed.

I stopped showing my veris years ago because of the same issue. I get people asking to see my veris, some even said you've no new veris as a result.

Too many have started messaging veris with nasty and untrue comments, of course these are people who have never met the person but seem to have a lot to say about them.

I just say if you have to read my veris to make a decision, then make it without seeing them, their loss.

Thankfully the thread isn't about you and your veries

It's not indeed, but it was to highlight how frequently it is done but you're a culprit of said behaviour."

Yea.....so you say ....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

As said, no matter your opinion on the topic of paying to use the site I think it goes without saying that nobody should be made to feel unsafe; on here or anywhere else.

There are 'trolls', there 'pic collectors', there are 'time-wasters'. However, as in this case seemingly, there are some people who are just dangerous; again, here and in every day life.

Their determination and persistence is scary and, in my opinion, not something that can be easily deterred unfortunately. At least not without professional involvement.

I had never interacted with the OP but she's always been a familiar face for all the years I've been on here. Not necessarily on here, by Fab, but hopefully something is done

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Well put it this way

Ive an issue all week with someone creating a fake account using my pics 4 and 5 times a day all week

So if that person had to pay £5 every time they set a fake profile up, so far they would have paid £140 this week

Would a troll pay that much

I think not

But can put up as many profiles as they like as there is no charge for joining

I do feel as well as some fab members I've chatted with a joining fee would wittle out people who are only joining because they can be a troll free of charge

OMG that's crazy, creating 5 fake profiles a day using your pics wtf

What's their game

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By *ilthyNightsCouple over a year ago

East / North, Cork

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By *ilthyNightsCouple over a year ago

East / North, Cork

On the plus side... it's easy enough her to create a new profile

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By *ealitybitesMan over a year ago

Belfast

Your compassion is boundless.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"On the plus side... it's easy enough her to create a new profile

Which she has done. But shouldn't have too. If the trolls and bullies aren't called out where does it stop.

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By *aughtyhotlipsWoman over a year ago

belfast

The abuse the OP has taken not only from this week but for months is shameful...online abuse should not be tolerated on any site !!!

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By *illium_cobblersMan over a year ago

swords EI & Derby UK

"The abuse the OP has taken not only from this week but for months is shameful...online abuse should not be tolerated on any site !!!"

I concur, this place is supposed to be about adults having fun. That means everyone..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Go the the guards!?!?!

Geez people don't think do they lol.

And what is she meant to she when they ask "and what type of website is this fab?"

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By *unnitoesWoman over a year ago

Belfast

"Go the the guards!?!?!

Geez people don't think do they lol.

And what is she meant to she when they ask "and what type of website is this fab?"

I believe the fact that a cyber police team finding the culprit would far outweigh the admission of being on Fab. I certainly would report this type of thing and also report anyone for causing me defamation of character by writing...perhaps this would cause people to think before starting up fake profiles or sending horrible messages to others about you

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By *ilthyNightsCouple over a year ago

East / North, Cork

"Your compassion is boundless. "

You are quite right. I'd like to apologise, and offer my sincere condolences to her and her family at what must be a very difficult time on this sex website.

I hope her new profile is afforded the ability to flourish despite this loss.. and continue onwards having sex with strangers at will over the coming months.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Go the the guards!?!?!

Geez people don't think do they lol.

And what is she meant to she when they ask "and what type of website is this fab?"

She doesn't know who this person is? So no point going to the guards.

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By *unnitoesWoman over a year ago

Belfast

"Go the the guards!?!?!

Geez people don't think do they lol.

And what is she meant to she when they ask "and what type of website is this fab?"

She doesn't know who this person is? So no point going to the guards. "

In NI there is a specialist Cyber Team who trace harrassment and bullying individuals online. They can trace emails, texts, online messages yo the individuals who send them...the team is very professional and discreet xx

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