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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I'm proud to be Irish but I'm ashamed of the way Ireland is.

From corrupt government

For the rich getting richer housing Syrians.

We are letting them destroy Ireland.

The list goes on.

There is no hope for your average working human been.

You go to work pay your bills and repeat .

Is it really worth it ?

When you see people on benefits which seem to be better off.

I'm lucky to have a good salary. But I know plenty who may just be earning €250 more than someone on benefits. Take the cost traveling etc out off it.

So you tell me who's better off.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Housing crisis,health system a disgrace,taxes upon taxes, we could go on all day mate...or emigrate!

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By *osmicGateMan  over a year ago

louth

Funny I just say an opinion poll ...apparently ff are now the no1 party..sinn fein in 2nd no less and fg 3rd..do the irish public have amnesia? I know opinion polls are only that and no real indication of the outcome of an election but still ff are the people who bankrupted the country..their leader meehole martin set up the famous hse a shit show if ever their was 1 and this man could potentially be the next taoiseach..irish politics is a pantomine..a theatre playing with people lives not 1 politician gives a shite about the working man or woman all they care about is getting a tds salary benefits and pension nothing less..promise the sun moon and the stars to get elected then once in power deny..deflect and do the opposite of what they promised ..no time for politicians

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By *j47Man  over a year ago

limerick

Is it just me or is a trend to post their literature in ur mail box without engaging with the public in this election. I have sent all the local candidates their junk mail back saying if u want my vote knock on my door and engage in my concerns for mine and their future not a knock on the door as of yet

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yep lost all faith myself,it just swings from ff to fg, just bought my CBD oil yesterday,up 10% due to new tax on supplements,...great bunch of lads in government!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Is it just me or is a trend to post their literature in ur mail box without engaging with the public in this election. I have sent all the local candidates their junk mail back saying if u want my vote knock on my door and engage in my concerns for mine and their future not a knock on the door as of yet "

Green bin under the letter box!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm proud to be Irish but I'm ashamed of the way Ireland is.

.....

For the rich getting richer housing Syrians. .....

"

The basterds! Taking in those from a war torn country fleeing death. Ya I can see how that's something to he ashamed of.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

And yet we bend over and let it happen. The only thing we ever stood up against was the water charges

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


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When you see people on benefits which seem to be better off.

I'm lucky to have a good salary. But I know plenty who may just be earning €250 more than someone on benefits. Take the cost traveling etc out off it.

So you tell me who's better off.

"

I posted about this another site when this topic came up.

I have no issue with people on benefits who genuinely can't work.

I have an issue with people receiving benefits who have no intention of ever getting a job. There's quite a few people I went to school with who are happy to receive their dole every week and avail of whatever government schemes are available. If you're claiming for a prolonged period you should have a valid reason for doing so. If you don't you should have to contribute somehow. For example, get them out working with the council 2-3 days per week cleaning park's, painting public buildings, removing grafitti etc. It they refuse to do it or they don't turn up then they lose some of their payment.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm proud to be Irish but I'm ashamed of the way Ireland is.

From corrupt government

For the rich getting richer housing Syrians.

We are letting them destroy Ireland.

The list goes on.

There is no hope for your average working human been.

You go to work pay your bills and repeat .

Is it really worth it ?

When you see people on benefits which seem to be better off.

I'm lucky to have a good salary. But I know plenty who may just be earning €250 more than someone on benefits. Take the cost traveling etc out off it.

So you tell me who's better off.

"

The ramblings of someone who really doesnt have a clue

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'd agree totally. I know similar ppl who haven't worked for 20 years and there's no reason at all that they can't. Just why would they when we pasty there wages every week

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

But that's only a very small part of the problem. Personally I wish we could oust all the parties instead of going around in third vicious circle of ff and fg every time we get pissed off with one of them. Fuck the whole lot of them out and start with an entirely new party. And what's with all these golden handshakes and pensions. They are all just laughing at us.... all the way to the banks

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By *rmrs1234Couple  over a year ago

Waterford

Most of the so called politicians have zero clue about what they are doing and how the regular people live nor are they in any way qualified to actually do what they are doing. would it not be more prudent in having actual professionals deal with matters in hand. For example accountant, ecomonists etc running the financial sector, doctors etc in health etc.

I agree that more needs to be done as regards long term people claiming the dole their whole lives and not doing a tap as well as people fiddling the system. They are, however, a very small part of the problem when it comes to vast sums of money that is being sent out of the country and politicians getting pay rises and massive pensions when there are elderly who can barely survive on their pension and now being told they cant claim it until they are 68.

The justic system and sentencing needs to be massively overhauled. There are people running around on the streets with conviction sheets as long as your arm and then you have the likes of what happened to that lad up the country and people wonder how did we get here? its pretty easy to see how we got here really

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By *P_80Man  over a year ago

Waterford

Basically in today's Ireland you're seen as no worth or value if you're not in a position to pay taxes. Elderly, homeless, mental health sufferers, chronic illness, disabled, unemployed(you can argue people on the dole are looked after, but I mean people who have worked all there lives, lose a job and are trying to keep afloat).

All discarded by our government because they can't be robbed,...Sorry ahem....pay taxes.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Basically in today's Ireland you're seen as no worth or value if you're not in a position to pay taxes. Elderly, homeless, mental health sufferers, chronic illness, disabled, unemployed(you can argue people on the dole are looked after, but I mean people who have worked all there lives, lose a job and are trying to keep afloat).

All discarded by our government because they can't be robbed,...Sorry ahem....pay taxes."

No better under UK rule

I've been a single working mum for the last 12yrs and have been fucked over because I work

I was constantly told don't work by family and friends, but I enjoy working but my wage is in one hand and out the other with nothing left over for the nice things in life

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By *evil_u_knowMan  over a year ago

city

Years of FF & FG putting business first, letting a select few have the cream off the top.

They only give people on benefit so much because they want the vote, they don't actually care about them. There is no thought behind it, just take a handfull of cash, throw it at them and tell them to fuck off.

The biggest problem though is Irish peoples attitudes. When the social housing list filled up, they put a priority on single mums. There were girls out there having more babies to have a house. The list filled up.

So now if you are a woman, you got qualified in college/Uni, you took your job, you pay your taxes, you're basically punished by having to spend every single penny you earn on a bedroom in a shared house. Your only hope of getting a home is to pair up with someone, as all houses are priced for two or more wages.

Ireland needs people on the lowest wages to be able to afford a decent life, a decent 1/2 bedroom apartment, money in their pocket, a holiday once a year, and not worry about food.

How far away are we from that? a low earner having a nice basic life? we are fucking light years away from it.

Its no wonder people jump off the train and just go on welfare. I mean they can see there is no future for them the way they are going, a bedroom, a fucking bedroom for the rest of their life?

Its a joke.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Ireland is not thinking about the working class people ..

The working class had most of the cuts and higher taxes put on to them over the last number of years. The work class are the people who are helping to get this country back on its feet.. but we are treated like second class citizens. To be honest i dont mind waiting for my pension at the age 67 , as long as everyone else in the country wait as well. Politicians enspecially. Does a politician work hard then me.i am a mother, carer, teacher, nurse, cleaner, taxi , cook, that all before i actually go to work for the day . Please on polling day vote with your feet and your heart.

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By *aterford1968Man  over a year ago

Waterford


"I'm proud to be Irish but I'm ashamed of the way Ireland is.

.....

For the rich getting richer housing Syrians. .....

The basterds! Taking in those from a war torn country fleeing death. Ya I can see how that's something to he ashamed of. "

Imagine housing these people that's payed by The EU and UN

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Smash capitalism

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Stop fucking voting for fg and ff and actually get out and vote for someone else.

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By *Sparkie.Man  over a year ago

Ratoath

Pay people very well to do nothing.....and guess what happens?

They do nothing very well!

Dole is there for a reason, people who fall on hard times are entitled to it and deserve it but there are far too many fit healthy people taking the piss and making a career out of it and doing wee cash jobs on the side.

Someone like that on the dole has a better standard of living than those working hard on near minimum wage.

That needs to be addressed I think and funnel the money saved into health system for more beds

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By *-4pleasureCouple  over a year ago

Belfast


"Stop fucking voting for fg and ff and actually get out and vote for someone else. "

Such as ?

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By *emper-fudgeMan  over a year ago

Blackrock

We need a working legitimate right wing party in this country...all the main parties in the debate are basically different shades of red...

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By *-4pleasureCouple  over a year ago

Belfast


"We need a working legitimate right wing party in this country...all the main parties in the debate are basically different shades of red..."

True - cos the DUP and the Tories have done so much for us up here

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By *yesgreenMan  over a year ago

north and south


"We need a working legitimate right wing party in this country...all the main parties in the debate are basically different shades of red...

True - cos the DUP and the Tories have done so much for us up here "

At least up north we can afford a few drinks , you can pay 7 euros a pint up free Republic should call it expensive Republic lol

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By *osmicGateMan  over a year ago

louth


"We need a working legitimate right wing party in this country...all the main parties in the debate are basically different shades of red...

True - cos the DUP and the Tories have done so much for us up here At least up north we can afford a few drinks , you can pay 7 euros a pint up free Republic should call it expensive Republic lol "

Some people call it the free state but nothing free about it..you pay for your freedom

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By *mokey and the bandit 1Couple  over a year ago

Dublin


"We need a working legitimate right wing party in this country...all the main parties in the debate are basically different shades of red..."

Yeah FG who absorbed eion oduffys facist blue shirts are a red party

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By *mokey and the bandit 1Couple  over a year ago

Dublin


"We need a working legitimate right wing party in this country...all the main parties in the debate are basically different shades of red...

True - cos the DUP and the Tories have done so much for us up here At least up north we can afford a few drinks , you can pay 7 euros a pint up free Republic should call it expensive Republic lol "

Who calls it free republic ? I've heard people call it Eire, the free state and the republic of Ireland but never the free republic

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By *yesgreenMan  over a year ago

north and south


"We need a working legitimate right wing party in this country...all the main parties in the debate are basically different shades of red...

True - cos the DUP and the Tories have done so much for us up here At least up north we can afford a few drinks , you can pay 7 euros a pint up free Republic should call it expensive Republic lol

Who calls it free republic ? I've heard people call it Eire, the free state and the republic of Ireland but never the free republic"

That was humour also one thing it's in a right state

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By *ndrew1972Man  over a year ago

Roscrea


"I'm proud to be Irish but I'm ashamed of the way Ireland is.

.....

For the rich getting richer housing Syrians. .....

The basterds! Taking in those from a war torn country fleeing death. Ya I can see how that's something to he ashamed of. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm proud to be Irish but I'm ashamed of the way Ireland is.

.....

For the rich getting richer housing Syrians. .....

The basterds! Taking in those from a war torn country fleeing death. Ya I can see how that's something to he ashamed of. "

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By *aywhatnowMan  over a year ago

North County


"Stop fucking voting for fg and ff and actually get out and vote for someone else. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ireland is not thinking about the working class people ..

The working class had most of the cuts and higher taxes put on to them over the last number of years. The work class are the people who are helping to get this country back on its feet.. but we are treated like second class citizens. To be honest i dont mind waiting for my pension at the age 67 , as long as everyone else in the country wait as well. Politicians enspecially. Does a politician work hard then me.i am a mother, carer, teacher, nurse, cleaner, taxi , cook, that all before i actually go to work for the day . Please on polling day vote with your feet and your heart."

Totally agree

Lets vote for change and vote sinn Fein, ie. Let's pay more taxes and let ex RA run the country.

Bullshit!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ireland is not thinking about the working class people ..

The working class had most of the cuts and higher taxes put on to them over the last number of years. The work class are the people who are helping to get this country back on its feet.. but we are treated like second class citizens. To be honest i dont mind waiting for my pension at the age 67 , as long as everyone else in the country wait as well. Politicians enspecially. Does a politician work hard then me.i am a mother, carer, teacher, nurse, cleaner, taxi , cook, that all before i actually go to work for the day . Please on polling day vote with your feet and your heart.

Totally agree

Lets vote for change and vote sinn Fein, ie. Let's pay more taxes and let ex RA run the country.

Bullshit!!"

Ah not this RA shite again, youre letting the black and tans run it now, decendants of the free state who executed their own. Selfish ignoramus who stood by while all the talented youth piled out or killed themselves. Who really has blood on their hands?

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By *ilthyNightsCouple  over a year ago

East / North, Cork

Two main parties both centerist.. means just swapping like for like each time. Ireland needs a political kick up the arse. Its a shame its gonna be SF but hey lets see what happens. We need a few new parties who are right and left now that the old FF-FG wrinklies are ageing out of the system.

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By *ilthyNightsCouple  over a year ago

East / North, Cork


"There is no hope for your average working human been.

"

Indeed.. I fear for the future of human beens

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Smash capitalism

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By *angtasticallyMan  over a year ago

Drogheda

Totally agree governments let the people of Ireland down tradition and culture slowly be wipe out and the rich get rich and as for be controlled by Europe

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By *unnyfookMan  over a year ago

Naas


"Funny I just say an opinion poll ...apparently ff are now the no1 party..sinn fein in 2nd no less and fg 3rd..do the irish public have amnesia? I know opinion polls are only that and no real indication of the outcome of an election but still ff are the people who bankrupted the country..their leader meehole martin set up the famous hse a shit show if ever their was 1 and this man could potentially be the next taoiseach..irish politics is a pantomine..a theatre playing with people lives not 1 politician gives a shite about the working man or woman all they care about is getting a tds salary benefits and pension nothing less..promise the sun moon and the stars to get elected then once in power deny..deflect and do the opposite of what they promised ..no time for politicians "

it doesn't matter who gets in they are all the same corrupt shower of cunts. from the independants to the partys ALL THE SAME

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By *oadrunner2000Man  over a year ago

city centre


"I'm proud to be Irish but I'm ashamed of the way Ireland is.

From corrupt government

For the rich getting richer housing Syrians.

We are letting them destroy Ireland.

The list goes on.

There is no hope for your average working human been.

You go to work pay your bills and repeat .

Is it really worth it ?

When you see people on benefits which seem to be better off.

I'm lucky to have a good salary. But I know plenty who may just be earning €250 more than someone on benefits. Take the cost traveling etc out off it.

So you tell me who's better off.

The ramblings of someone who really doesnt have a clue "

would you like to elaborate????

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By *ichael McCarthyMan  over a year ago

Lucan


"Funny I just say an opinion poll ...apparently ff are now the no1 party..sinn fein in 2nd no less and fg 3rd..do the irish public have amnesia? I know opinion polls are only that and no real indication of the outcome of an election but still ff are the people who bankrupted the country..their leader meehole martin set up the famous hse a shit show if ever their was 1 and this man could potentially be the next taoiseach..irish politics is a pantomine..a theatre playing with people lives not 1 politician gives a shite about the working man or woman all they care about is getting a tds salary benefits and pension nothing less..promise the sun moon and the stars to get elected then once in power deny..deflect and do the opposite of what they promised ..no time for politicians

it doesn't matter who gets in they are all the same corrupt shower of cunts. from the independants to the partys ALL THE SAME"

Given that the number of parties who have ever got into power here is so small I'm not sure how you can say that they're all the same.

They're not, clearly, it's just the two main ones are practically identical and the two minor ones who have gone into power with them in the past did so for the sake of being in power.

Try voting for change and it can happen. Voting for the same thing isn't voting for change though.

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By *yesgreenMan  over a year ago

north and south


"Funny I just say an opinion poll ...apparently ff are now the no1 party..sinn fein in 2nd no less and fg 3rd..do the irish public have amnesia? I know opinion polls are only that and no real indication of the outcome of an election but still ff are the people who bankrupted the country..their leader meehole martin set up the famous hse a shit show if ever their was 1 and this man could potentially be the next taoiseach..irish politics is a pantomine..a theatre playing with people lives not 1 politician gives a shite about the working man or woman all they care about is getting a tds salary benefits and pension nothing less..promise the sun moon and the stars to get elected then once in power deny..deflect and do the opposite of what they promised ..no time for politicians

it doesn't matter who gets in they are all the same corrupt shower of cunts. from the independants to the partys ALL THE SAME

Given that the number of parties who have ever got into power here is so small I'm not sure how you can say that they're all the same.

They're not, clearly, it's just the two main ones are practically identical and the two minor ones who have gone into power with them in the past did so for the sake of being in power.

Try voting for change and it can happen. Voting for the same thing isn't voting for change though. "

There is an old song from the 50s called sitting on the fence watching all the tds go bye , sorry girls go by and that's what you do when your throw away your vote , It's important for change for kids for future

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By *anKinkyMan  over a year ago

Carrick on Shannon

Does it really matter at the end of the day? sure the top civil servants(advisors) will still be in situ as they have been since before the crash,protected by the unions,making decisions that won't effect them or their secured pensions only to laden more taxes on the hard pressed decent ordinary working people.Who ever forms a Government,they are only a front to the layer that is lying beneath and lean in to their ears.Yes Minister comes to mind!

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By *ilthyNightsCouple  over a year ago

East / North, Cork


"Does it really matter at the end of the day? sure the top civil servants(advisors) will still be in situ as they have been since before the crash,protected by the unions,making decisions that won't effect them or their secured pensions only to laden more taxes on the hard pressed decent ordinary working people.Who ever forms a Government,they are only a front to the layer that is lying beneath and lean in to their ears.Yes Minister comes to mind! "

That's necessary unfortunately. Tou cant have a complete change of all staff after each election.

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