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By *hechapMan
over a year ago
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"Good enough for the scumbag "
I will wait until i know all the facts before judging and condeming him..
For all the people who say the driver knew, how did you come to that conclusion?
Like is it just your opinion or do you know the actual facts and can you back it up. Or is it just gossip?
The driver wont want any of you lot on the jury anyway.
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Im inclined to agree with the op..there is no way he didn't know that trailer wasnt full of dead bodies..stopping to check if the refrigerator unit was working or not was a ruse to raise the alarm..then opening the doors and fainting when he saw the bodies 
what does he take people for he was in on it something very sinister about this and its all coming out now  "
He had the trailer less than 25 minutes.
Drivers don't open trailers especially with a seal on them. As a load will be rejected and they don't get paid.
People shouldn't pass judgement without facts.
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Have any of you noticed the news sites are defaulting to calling him Irish?
But the court case the other week when someone wanted to be called Irish, they were called british, and a judge agreed it should default to British. |
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I'm curious to know how a Vietnamese family had €30k to pay for one of their children to be trafficked. The average monthly salary in Vietnam is about €150. If they had that money they must have been very wealthy which begs the question why send her abroad at all then. |
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over a year ago
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Im inclined to agree with the op..there is no way he didn't know that trailer wasnt full of dead bodies..stopping to check if the refrigerator unit was working or not was a ruse to raise the alarm..then opening the doors and fainting when he saw the bodies
what does he take people for he was in on it something very sinister about this and its all coming out now
He had the trailer less than 25 minutes.
Drivers don't open trailers especially with a seal on them. As a load will be rejected and they don't get paid.
People shouldn't pass judgement without facts.
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depending on what's being transported a lot of drivers can't unless they have bolt cutters hand. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The lack of respect for the unfortunate dead in this thread makes me feel a bit nauseous "
does make me want to vomit. 39 people dead and people are delighted the driver who may not be guilty is being done for it. |
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Im inclined to agree with the op..there is no way he didn't know that trailer wasnt full of dead bodies..stopping to check if the refrigerator unit was working or not was a ruse to raise the alarm..then opening the doors and fainting when he saw the bodies
what does he take people for he was in on it something very sinister about this and its all coming out now
He had the trailer less than 25 minutes.
Drivers don't open trailers especially with a seal on them. As a load will be rejected and they don't get paid.
People shouldn't pass judgement without facts.
depending on what's being transported a lot of drivers can't unless they have bolt cutters hand. "
I worked in a large company doing quality control for goods inwards. If the seal number didn't match the one on the paperwork. I would have to reject the load. The only exception was when customs had put a replacement seal on the container. |
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Im inclined to agree with the op..there is no way he didn't know that trailer wasnt full of dead bodies..stopping to check if the refrigerator unit was working or not was a ruse to raise the alarm..then opening the doors and fainting when he saw the bodies
what does he take people for he was in on it something very sinister about this and its all coming out now
He had the trailer less than 25 minutes.
Drivers don't open trailers especially with a seal on them. As a load will be rejected and they don't get paid.
People shouldn't pass judgement without facts.
depending on what's being transported a lot of drivers can't unless they have bolt cutters hand.
I worked in a large company doing quality control for goods inwards. If the seal number didn't match the one on the paperwork. I would have to reject the load. The only exception was when customs had put a replacement seal on the container. "
not disputing what you said just adding onto it as i've done m own time in logistics and goods in to know what you are saying is true. was just adding onto it. sorry if you thought different |
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Im inclined to agree with the op..there is no way he didn't know that trailer wasnt full of dead bodies..stopping to check if the refrigerator unit was working or not was a ruse to raise the alarm..then opening the doors and fainting when he saw the bodies
what does he take people for he was in on it something very sinister about this and its all coming out now
He had the trailer less than 25 minutes.
Drivers don't open trailers especially with a seal on them. As a load will be rejected and they don't get paid.
People shouldn't pass judgement without facts.
depending on what's being transported a lot of drivers can't unless they have bolt cutters hand.
I worked in a large company doing quality control for goods inwards. If the seal number didn't match the one on the paperwork. I would have to reject the load. The only exception was when customs had put a replacement seal on the container.
not disputing what you said just adding onto it as i've done m own time in logistics and goods in to know what you are saying is true. was just adding onto it. sorry if you thought different "
Oh i know wasn't saying you were. I was adding to it myself. I'm just shocked at some many people out for the driver. It's the ones putting the people in these situations are to blame. Not the poor guy who just happened to be assigned to pick up that particular trailer. |
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Im inclined to agree with the op..there is no way he didn't know that trailer wasnt full of dead bodies..stopping to check if the refrigerator unit was working or not was a ruse to raise the alarm..then opening the doors and fainting when he saw the bodies
what does he take people for he was in on it something very sinister about this and its all coming out now
He had the trailer less than 25 minutes.
Drivers don't open trailers especially with a seal on them. As a load will be rejected and they don't get paid.
People shouldn't pass judgement without facts.
depending on what's being transported a lot of drivers can't unless they have bolt cutters hand.
I worked in a large company doing quality control for goods inwards. If the seal number didn't match the one on the paperwork. I would have to reject the load. The only exception was when customs had put a replacement seal on the container.
not disputing what you said just adding onto it as i've done m own time in logistics and goods in to know what you are saying is true. was just adding onto it. sorry if you thought different
Oh i know wasn't saying you were. I was adding to it myself. I'm just shocked at some many people out for the driver. It's the ones putting the people in these situations are to blame. Not the poor guy who just happened to be assigned to pick up that particular trailer. "
it is disturbing to say the least. read the comments on the daily mail fb page and they pale in comparison to some of the stuff that's been said here |
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"Good enough for the scumbag
I will wait until i know all the facts before judging and condeming him..
For all the people who say the driver knew, how did you come to that conclusion?
Like is it just your opinion or do you know the actual facts and can you back it up. Or is it just gossip?
The driver wont want any of you lot on the jury anyway.
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Police wouldnt have charged him with manslaughter for no reason..they obviously have something on him ..something not released to the public yet youll see |
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"The families of the victims have gotten their money back at least, one got 30 grand refunded."
wt absolute f.
"money back" ? what, like an autumn sale?
listen to yourself. |
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"The families of the victims have gotten their money back at least, one got 30 grand refunded.wt absolute f.
"money back" ? what, like an autumn sale?
listen to yourself."
Good job they kept their receipts |
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"If is ..was so innocent why did he just stop out of the blue .and then open the container ...as it's not the done thing .was in remote area ..."
His excuse was he couldnt hear the refrigerator motor kicking in so he stopped to investigate..its almost as if he wanted to be caught  |
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"I'm curious to know how a Vietnamese family had €30k to pay for one of their children to be trafficked. The average monthly salary in Vietnam is about €150. If they had that money they must have been very wealthy which begs the question why send her abroad at all then. "
The wider family all raises funding, 30,000 isn't hard to raise that way, they send someone over, that person works and earns money to send back and the cycle goes on. It's a very common. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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His ma said he was checkin his load before he went to sleep for the nite. 1 driver cant check refrigerate lorry cause its sealed. 2 he only stopped 30mins into his run after lyin up for 2 days without drivin. 3 he stopped up for the nite at a junction great place to park a 40ft lorry. He was hired for the jast piece of the journey end and that was the drop off. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"He's goin down scumbag"
Your attitude towards his us rather distasteful and somewhat hate driven by your comments. Not a good way to come across on public forums. It's not just you that gets a bad name by this. |
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"His ma said he was checkin his load before he went to sleep for the nite. 1 driver cant check refrigerate lorry cause its sealed. 2 he only stopped 30mins into his run after lyin up for 2 days without drivin. 3 he stopped up for the nite at a junction great place to park a 40ft lorry. He was hired for the jast piece of the journey end and that was the drop off. "
Yea its all too convenient for me |
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"If is ..was so innocent why did he just stop out of the blue .and then open the container ...as it's not the done thing .was in remote area ...
His excuse was he couldnt hear the refrigerator motor kicking in so he stopped to investigate..its almost as if he wanted to be caught "
Maybe he's telling the truth. i find it more believable that he didn't know what was there. if containers aren't usually opened by drivers, why tell him what he is transporting? I think he is just a pawn.
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"If is ..was so innocent why did he just stop out of the blue .and then open the container ...as it's not the done thing .was in remote area ...
His excuse was he couldnt hear the refrigerator motor kicking in so he stopped to investigate..its almost as if he wanted to be caught
Maybe he's telling the truth. i find it more believable that he didn't know what was there. if containers aren't usually opened by drivers, why tell him what he is transporting? I think he is just a pawn.
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Also, if he did know and he wanted to be caught he absolutely did the right thing ,no? Maybe stopping this atrocity from ever happening again?
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"If is ..was so innocent why did he just stop out of the blue .and then open the container ...as it's not the done thing .was in remote area ...
His excuse was he couldnt hear the refrigerator motor kicking in so he stopped to investigate..its almost as if he wanted to be caught
Maybe he's telling the truth. i find it more believable that he didn't know what was there. if containers aren't usually opened by drivers, why tell him what he is transporting? I think he is just a pawn.
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No pawn he knew rightly op is right |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I got a screenshot pict sent to me an hour ago it was a snapchat pict of him with a beer in his hand and on it he had said a sneaky beer while waiting for my chinese...straight away i said nah its photo shopped i looked closely at the pict and it aint photo shopped at all... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I've done a little driving over the years I was always handed paper work an told exactly whats in it and always shown then I signed for it and drove it to wherever it was designated to go. Got there manger/costumer checked it I unloaded it he signed it job done I got paid an back to base. Well I got paid a few days later like any job.
Saying that I only ever dealt with pallets could be different in seals I dont know the difference but surely they are shown what they are carrying and signed for it??
And I just cant get me head around how come he was never shown what he was carrying? If it cant be shown there should be some sort of camera in it so you no for sure theres no one onboard.
The poor family's an the poor people onboard must have had a horrible death. All because they want a better future an a better life. They would go lengths to get it and there was the proof unbelievable RIP  |
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Why pay £30,000 for a ride in the back of a fridge, when a one way business class flight from the east will only set you back about £1,000 ?. Plus a few nights in a cheap hotel for a few hundred quid, then do the disappearing act ? |
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"Why pay £30,000 for a ride in the back of a fridge, when a one way business class flight from the east will only set you back about £1,000 ?. Plus a few nights in a cheap hotel for a few hundred quid, then do the disappearing act ?"
I'm guessing visa issues? £30,000 is a substantial amount of money especially coming from that part of the world.
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My opinion is as said before ,the driver cant open a refrigerated load until his drop of point, and why did he stop,again my opinion is it was to let the illegals out of the back of the container to escape, tgen he found all dead and panicked, now hes guna pay the price of having it in his conscience till his dying day, all for a few handy quid |
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"I've done a little driving over the years I was always handed paper work an told exactly whats in it and always shown then I signed for it and drove it to wherever it was designated to go. Got there manger/costumer checked it I unloaded it he signed it job done I got paid an back to base. Well I got paid a few days later like any job.
Saying that I only ever dealt with pallets could be different in seals I dont know the difference but surely they are shown what they are carrying and signed for it??
And I just cant get me head around how come he was never shown what he was carrying? If it cant be shown there should be some sort of camera in it so you no for sure theres no one onboard."
Maybe he was carrying nothing. Maybe he had delivered his last load and returned to the UK with what he thought was an empty trailer. Maybe he stuck some documents of a load he was to collect in the UK in the trailer so it would be there when he went to load up the next day and maybe he opened up to get them documents and found the dead people.
For all we know he could have been on his way back to Northern ireland to drop the trailer back. |
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"My opinion is as said before ,the driver cant open a refrigerated load until his drop of point, and why did he stop,again my opinion is it was to let the illegals out of the back of the container to escape, tgen he found all dead and panicked, now hes guna pay the price of having it in his conscience till his dying day, all for a few handy quid "
And you know all that do you ? |
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"I got a screenshot pict sent to me an hour ago it was a snapchat pict of him with a beer in his hand and on it he had said a sneaky beer while waiting for my chinese...straight away i said nah its photo shopped i looked closely at the pict and it aint photo shopped at all... "
How do you know it wasn't? Snapchat pics are all filtered and played with.
No one would do that. Why with the high risk of being caught
More likely some smug dickhead stirring and having fun at the expense of someone.
Too many have no filters, even on here. |
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"I got a screenshot pict sent to me an hour ago it was a snapchat pict of him with a beer in his hand and on it he had said a sneaky beer while waiting for my chinese...straight away i said nah its photo shopped i looked closely at the pict and it aint photo shopped at all... "
 of course it is. |
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Im inclined to agree with the op..there is no way he didn't know that trailer wasnt full of dead bodies..stopping to check if the refrigerator unit was working or not was a ruse to raise the alarm..then opening the doors and fainting when he saw the bodies
what does he take people for he was in on it something very sinister about this and its all coming out now
He had the trailer less than 25 minutes.
Drivers don't open trailers especially with a seal on them. As a load will be rejected and they don't get paid.
People shouldn't pass judgement without facts.
depending on what's being transported a lot of drivers can't unless they have bolt cutters hand.
I worked in a large company doing quality control for goods inwards. If the seal number didn't match the one on the paperwork. I would have to reject the load. The only exception was when customs had put a replacement seal on the container.
not disputing what you said just adding onto it as i've done m own time in logistics and goods in to know what you are saying is true. was just adding onto it. sorry if you thought different
Oh i know wasn't saying you were. I was adding to it myself. I'm just shocked at some many people out for the driver. It's the ones putting the people in these situations are to blame. Not the poor guy who just happened to be assigned to pick up that particular trailer.
it is disturbing to say the least. read the comments on the daily mail fb page and they pale in comparison to some of the stuff that's been said here"
Please don't quote the daily mail, the shitiest paper in circulation. Leave that paper to do what it's best at, serialising Nancy Mitford's diaries or exposing Winston Churchill for his love of rice crispies. I'm not a lefty but the mail is so far right and middle class, it's off the chart. |
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Im inclined to agree with the op..there is no way he didn't know that trailer wasnt full of dead bodies..stopping to check if the refrigerator unit was working or not was a ruse to raise the alarm..then opening the doors and fainting when he saw the bodies
what does he take people for he was in on it something very sinister about this and its all coming out now
He had the trailer less than 25 minutes.
Drivers don't open trailers especially with a seal on them. As a load will be rejected and they don't get paid.
People shouldn't pass judgement without facts.
depending on what's being transported a lot of drivers can't unless they have bolt cutters hand.
I worked in a large company doing quality control for goods inwards. If the seal number didn't match the one on the paperwork. I would have to reject the load. The only exception was when customs had put a replacement seal on the container.
not disputing what you said just adding onto it as i've done m own time in logistics and goods in to know what you are saying is true. was just adding onto it. sorry if you thought different
Oh i know wasn't saying you were. I was adding to it myself. I'm just shocked at some many people out for the driver. It's the ones putting the people in these situations are to blame. Not the poor guy who just happened to be assigned to pick up that particular trailer.
it is disturbing to say the least. read the comments on the daily mail fb page and they pale in comparison to some of the stuff that's been said here
Please don't quote the daily mail, the shitiest paper in circulation. Leave that paper to do what it's best at, serialising Nancy Mitford's diaries or exposing Winston Churchill for his love of rice crispies. I'm not a lefty but the mail is so far right and middle class, it's off the chart."
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Im inclined to agree with the op..there is no way he didn't know that trailer wasnt full of dead bodies..stopping to check if the refrigerator unit was working or not was a ruse to raise the alarm..then opening the doors and fainting when he saw the bodies
what does he take people for he was in on it something very sinister about this and its all coming out now
He had the trailer less than 25 minutes.
Drivers don't open trailers especially with a seal on them. As a load will be rejected and they don't get paid.
People shouldn't pass judgement without facts.
depending on what's being transported a lot of drivers can't unless they have bolt cutters hand.
I worked in a large company doing quality control for goods inwards. If the seal number didn't match the one on the paperwork. I would have to reject the load. The only exception was when customs had put a replacement seal on the container.
not disputing what you said just adding onto it as i've done m own time in logistics and goods in to know what you are saying is true. was just adding onto it. sorry if you thought different
Oh i know wasn't saying you were. I was adding to it myself. I'm just shocked at some many people out for the driver. It's the ones putting the people in these situations are to blame. Not the poor guy who just happened to be assigned to pick up that particular trailer.
it is disturbing to say the least. read the comments on the daily mail fb page and they pale in comparison to some of the stuff that's been said here
Please don't quote the daily mail, the shitiest paper in circulation. Leave that paper to do what it's best at, serialising Nancy Mitford's diaries or exposing Winston Churchill for his love of rice crispies. I'm not a lefty but the mail is so far right and middle class, it's off the chart."
i agree but i was only using it as a comparsion for some of the shitty comments already made on this |
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"I got a screenshot pict sent to me an hour ago it was a snapchat pict of him with a beer in his hand and on it he had said a sneaky beer while waiting for my chinese...straight away i said nah its photo shopped i looked closely at the pict and it aint photo shopped at all...
Sorry buy you have not seen the picture i have and 100percent it is not
of course it is. "
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"I got a screenshot pict sent to me an hour ago it was a snapchat pict of him with a beer in his hand and on it he had said a sneaky beer while waiting for my chinese...straight away i said nah its photo shopped i looked closely at the pict and it aint photo shopped at all...
How do you know it wasn't? Snapchat pics are all filtered and played with.
No one would do that. Why with the high risk of being caught
More likely some smug dickhead stirring and having fun at the expense of someone.
Too many have no filters, even on here."
all ya have to do is look at it to know ...if ya have kik pm me and il forward you it |
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We live in what we believe to be a democracy, if it was any of us in that situation you like to be thought to be innocent until proven guilty.
That said in a democracy two monkeys can out vote a genius.
However there seems to be a lot of circumstantial evidence against him but from experience Mo is at the bottom of the ladder and is possibly a pawn in the whole thing.
Another angle on it was Mo was driving these people for a better life, to work here and send money home to poor families thus improving there lives, it's a tragic outcome, these paid paid the ultimate price and also a hefty monetary price.
I think we should hold judgement and let natural justice take its course |
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"We live in what we believe to be a democracy, if it was any of us in that situation you like to be thought to be innocent until proven guilty.
That said in a democracy two monkeys can out vote a genius.
However there seems to be a lot of circumstantial evidence against him but from experience Mo is at the bottom of the ladder and is possibly a pawn in the whole thing.
Another angle on it was Mo was driving these people for a better life, to work here and send money home to poor families thus improving there lives, it's a tragic outcome, these paid paid the ultimate price and also a hefty monetary price.
I think we should hold judgement and let natural justice take its course"
correct ...its the person who closed the doors of the trailor is the actually one should be getting done for murder ...the rest involved should get some sort of charge for been part of it all but the person to lock that door is the one looked them away to sufforcate |
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"I got a screenshot pict sent to me an hour ago it was a snapchat pict of him with a beer in his hand and on it he had said a sneaky beer while waiting for my chinese...straight away i said nah its photo shopped i looked closely at the pict and it aint photo shopped at all...
Sorry buy you have not seen the picture i have and 100percent it is not
of course it is. "
You do realise there are 100s of people who would have that exact thing posted any night? Beer whilst waiting on a chinese? Or indian or pizza? |
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By *aid backMan
over a year ago
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The tabloids are a funny old bunch. A proud loyalist British person from northern Ireland gets caught with dead people on his truck he becomes an Irishman. I'm surprised that the dup etc are not up in arms demanding that he should be recognised as British |
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"The tabloids are a funny old bunch. A proud loyalist British person from northern Ireland gets caught with dead people on his truck he becomes an Irishman. I'm surprised that the dup etc are not up in arms demanding that he should be recognised as British"
That's as sectarian as one can too. So carry on...  |
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well well well the latest news now is that mo had spent 10 months in global ring moving illegal immigrants to the uk..not so innocent now is he"
That's irrelevant to the point that anyone should be kept anonymous untill convicted. It is a basic human right irrespective of anything IMO. |
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"The tabloids are a funny old bunch. A proud loyalist British person from northern Ireland gets caught with dead people on his truck he becomes an Irishman. I'm surprised that the dup etc are not up in arms demanding that he should be recognised as British
That's as sectarian as one can too. So carry on... "
Its the truth, A girl sued because she was "Born british" according to UK law, and UK law told her to fuck off, they said there was no Northern Irish people, or no Irish people in the North, just British UNTIL they renounce it.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/ni-born-people-are-considered-british-until-they-renounce-citizenship-court-rules-1.4049810
A week later someone from the north caught with 39 bodies, and there is no "Northern irish", no "British person" its just being said "Irish".
This person, nationalist or unionist should be referred to as British unless they pull out their Irish passport and demand to be treated as an Irish person. That is the current stance of British Common Law. |
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well well well the latest news now is that mo had spent 10 months in global ring moving illegal immigrants to the uk..not so innocent now is he
That's irrelevant to the point that anyone should be kept anonymous untill convicted. It is a basic human right irrespective of anything IMO. "
40 people dead in a container lad..his name would have gotten out very easily |
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Let's face it .he brings the lorry to an industrial estate in the middle of the night ...oh I must check the refrigerator is working .yeah right .what did he think was in the container ...swiss chocolate ..he was getting paid big money the smuggle. She hope he gets what he deserves hopefully 20 year years at her majesty prison. |
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"What is it with irish people time and time again you get these do gooders ..he is as guilty as hell "
Well if he is actually Irish then the government should be sending over legal help for him, like they did for the migrant who claimed Irish citizenship and was then charged with being a member of the muslim brother hood in Egypt.
The press should really be covering this. |
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"I'm curious to know how a Vietnamese family had €30k to pay for one of their children to be trafficked. The average monthly salary in Vietnam is about €150. If they had that money they must have been very wealthy which begs the question why send her abroad at all then. "
Absolutely right. Let's criticise and judge the motivations of people just trying to find a better life, rather than those of human traffickers that killed them. Good man. |
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"Ok, enough of this already. It's a swingers sex site. Let's talk sex!!!"
This all day long. You can all make assumptions that will have no bearing on the outcome. So lets get back to what this site is about... SEX!!
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Well all you . Gooders ..see your friendly northern irish lorry driver has admitted to being aware and involved. In killing those unfortunate people in his big truck .surprise surprise.bring back hanging |
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