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(Never had an STI in my life, neither have I met anyone new for a long time, just heard some fun stories about myself and people I "meet") | |||
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"I go every six month's as I think it's good to look after your sexual health. The last time I attended the clinic based in Portlaoise hospital the nurse told me that the increase of Stds has increased dramatically. She also mentioned that I was the only one attending that evenings clinic that was not presenting with symptoms. " It's ridiculous that more people don't get tested regularly. In most cases an STI can be quickly and effectively treated, but if someone isn't even bothering to get themselves checked, they'll just keep passing on the infection and possibly even reinfecting repeat partners. For those afraid to attend clinics or who don't have a clinic nearby, your local GP will also complete tests in complete confidentiality! There's no excuse! | |||
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"This is very serious and i am taking a big risk here that i will be ridiculed but it has to be said... More than 1 person has come to us in confidence saying that over the last number of weeks they have picked up a very nasty STI. I would urge anyone who has been active meeting on fab to do what we have done and get tested. We were clear but others have not been so lucky. Also people need to remember it can be picked up from oral very easily and most importantly it is silent and most people wont have symtoms.." Fair play guys | |||
"HSE STI services in Ireland Carlow STI Clinic, Carlow District Hospital, Athy Road. Tel: 051 842 646 Clare STI Clinic, University Hospital Ennis. Tel: 061 482 382 Cork STI Clinic, South Infirmary Victoria University Hospital, Old Blackrock Road. Tel: 021 496 6844 STI Clinic, Youth Health Service, Penrose House, Penrose Quay, Cork City. Tel: 076 108 4150 Donegal GUM/ STI Clinic, Letterkenny General Hospital, Letterkenny. Tel: 074 912 3715 Dublin GUIDE Clinic, St. James’s Hospital, James’s Street, Dublin 8. Tel: 01 416 2315/6 STI Clinic, Mater Hospital, Eccles Street, Dublin 7. Tel: 01 803 2063 Gay Men’s Health Service, Baggot Street Clinic, 18 Upper Baggot St., Dublin 4. Tel: 01 669 9553 Galway STI Clinic, Portiuncula Hospital, Ballinasloe. Tel: 090 964 8372 (ext 676) University Hospital Galway, Newcastle Road. Tel: 091 525 200 Kerry STI Clinic, University Hospital Kerry, Tralee. Tel: 021 496 6844 Laois STI Clinic, Out patients Dept., Midland Regional Hospital, Block Rd., Portlaoise. Tel: 086 859 1273 Limerick STI Clinic, University Hospital Limerick, Dooradoyle. Tel: 061 482 382 Louth GUM Clinic, Louth County Hospital, Dublin Road, Dundalk. Tel: 086 824 1847 STI Clinic, Our Lady of Lourdes Hospital Drogheda. Tel: 086 824 1847 Mayo STI Clinic, Mayo General Hospital, Castlebar. Tel: 094 902 1733 (ext 3501) Monaghan GUM Clinic, Monaghan General Hospital, Monaghan. Tel: 086 824 1847 Sligo GUM Clinic, Sligo General Hospital, The Mall. Tel: 071 917 0473 Tipperary STI Clinic, South Tipperary General Hospital, Clonmel. Tel: 051 842 646 STI Clinic, University Hospital Nenagh. Tel: 061 482 382 Waterford STI Clinic, University Hospital Waterford Dunmore Road. Tel: 051 842 646 Westmeath STI Clinic, Midland Regional Hospital, Longford Road, Mullingar. Tel: 086 416 9830" Brilliant Rosie this should help out loads  xxx | |||
"This is very serious and i am taking a big risk here that i will be ridiculed but it has to be said... More than 1 person has come to us in confidence saying that over the last number of weeks they have picked up a very nasty STI. I would urge anyone who has been active meeting on fab to do what we have done and get tested. We were clear but others have not been so lucky. Also people need to remember it can be picked up from oral very easily and most importantly it is silent and most people wont have symtoms.." sounds like HIV? | |||
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"Thanks. I hope who ever has told you this has contacted everyone that they have recently been with "Pretty sure that's a legal obligation now days isn't it | |||
"Thanks. I hope who ever has told you this has contacted everyone that they have recently been with "Its what we told them so hopefully they did...they are regulars at both well known swing venues in Ireland. | |||
"Thanks. I hope who ever has told you this has contacted everyone that they have recently been with
Pretty sure that's a legal obligation now days isn't it"You are actually right. The sti in question is a noticeable infection. | |||
"Thanks. I hope who ever has told you this has contacted everyone that they have recently been with
Pretty sure that's a legal obligation now days isn't it
You are actually right. The sti in question is a noticeable infection."I'm guessing herpes  | |||
"This is very serious and i am taking a big risk here that i will be ridiculed but it has to be said... More than 1 person has come to us in confidence saying that over the last number of weeks they have picked up a very nasty STI. I would urge anyone who has been active meeting on fab to do what we have done and get tested. We were clear but others have not been so lucky. Also people need to remember it can be picked up from oral very easily and most importantly it is silent and most people wont have symtoms.." fair play op people should get checked on regular basis I get me done every 6 months | |||
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"Ok people there are no prizes for guessing so will just tell you its gonorrhoea. Very serious especially for women." not a serious sti ..a dose of anti biotics kills gonorrhoea..serious to me would be hiv or hep a b or c..they can kill you if left untreated..chlaymidia or gonorrhoea can leave you infertile alright yes | |||
"Not only swingers should get tested. People in general who have sex. Health is not something we should joke about. Also, by going to the doctor did I find out my ex was cheating on me. Symptoms were none. Fair play to OP for posting. Also giving and receiving oral you can contract STI. Minor chances but possible. In Germany you cant give BJ without a condom on. " But. What would be the point? Thats no fun. On the original post. Fair play Op | |||
"Not only swingers should get tested. People in general who have sex. Health is not something we should joke about. Also, by going to the doctor did I find out my ex was cheating on me. Symptoms were none. Fair play to OP for posting. Also giving and receiving oral you can contract STI. Minor chances but possible. In Germany you cant give BJ without a condom on. But. What would be the point? Thats no fun. On the original post. Fair play Op "Well yeah no fun ... but safe sex ... | |||
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"Ok people there are no prizes for guessing so will just tell you its gonorrhoea. Very serious especially for women. not a serious sti ..a dose of anti biotics kills gonorrhoea..serious to me would be hiv or hep a b or c..they can kill you if left untreated..chlaymidia or gonorrhoea can leave you infertile alright yes" Herpes is fairly serious too in it never really leaves you and actually with the recent outbreak of super gonnereaha in Ireland I'd be concerned | |||
"Ok people there are no prizes for guessing so will just tell you its gonorrhoea. Very serious especially for women." I was my dick with listerine, sounds weird but it stops you getting gonorrhoea, and also if its going in a girls mouth then it should be as clean as a mouth, mmmm minty fresh dick. | |||
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"Kinda glad I haven't met anyone on here yet." Bet your over the moon that you have not met anyone. | |||
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"Ok people there are no prizes for guessing so will just tell you its gonorrhoea. Very serious especially for women. not a serious sti ..a dose of anti biotics kills gonorrhoea..serious to me would be hiv or hep a b or c..they can kill you if left untreated..chlaymidia or gonorrhoea can leave you infertile alright yes" Lots of media coverage of antibiotic resistant gonorrhoea proving very difficult to get rid of. | |||
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"We all take risks orally, very few use protection for oral. The only shame in an STI is not getting checked regularly. Fair play to the people telling you OP, this is exactly how it should be and less people would be embarrassed to go get checked etc "All this talk of condoms but has anyone used any protection while going down on lady bits  | |||
"We all take risks orally, very few use protection for oral. The only shame in an STI is not getting checked regularly. Fair play to the people telling you OP, this is exactly how it should be and less people would be embarrassed to go get checked etc
All this talk of condoms but has anyone used any protection while going down on lady bits "Zero that I have ever seen in 10 years swinging | |||
"We all take risks orally, very few use protection for oral. The only shame in an STI is not getting checked regularly. Fair play to the people telling you OP, this is exactly how it should be and less people would be embarrassed to go get checked etc
All this talk of condoms but has anyone used any protection while going down on lady bits
Zero that I have ever seen in 10 years swinging "How do you think people would react if protection became compulsory for oral in the main swing venues? | |||
"I go every six month's as I think it's good to look after your sexual health. The last time I attended the clinic based in Portlaoise hospital the nurse told me that the increase of Stds has increased dramatically. She also mentioned that I was the only one attending that evenings clinic that was not presenting with symptoms. " So basically most people don't do regular checks - they wait till they get symptoms. | |||
"We all take risks orally, very few use protection for oral. The only shame in an STI is not getting checked regularly. Fair play to the people telling you OP, this is exactly how it should be and less people would be embarrassed to go get checked etc
All this talk of condoms but has anyone used any protection while going down on lady bits
Zero that I have ever seen in 10 years swinging
How do you think people would react if protection became compulsory for oral in the main swing venues?"They would use it I think, but you would always get some who will still risk it | |||
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"I go every six month's as I think it's good to look after your sexual health. The last time I attended the clinic based in Portlaoise hospital the nurse told me that the increase of Stds has increased dramatically. She also mentioned that I was the only one attending that evenings clinic that was not presenting with symptoms. So basically most people don't do regular checks - they wait till they get symptoms. "Why does this surprise you? The level of ignorance about STDs is huge. | |||
"Not only swingers should get tested. People in general who have sex. Health is not something we should joke about. Also, by going to the doctor did I find out my ex was cheating on me. Symptoms were none. Fair play to OP for posting. Also giving and receiving oral you can contract STI. Minor chances but possible. In Germany you cant give BJ without a condom on. " The German compulsory condom only applies to prostitution. | |||
"Not only swingers should get tested. People in general who have sex. Health is not something we should joke about. Also, by going to the doctor did I find out my ex was cheating on me. Symptoms were none. Fair play to OP for posting. Also giving and receiving oral you can contract STI. Minor chances but possible. In Germany you cant give BJ without a condom on. The German compulsory condom only applies to prostitution. "I was wondering how this activity was policed in the general population | |||
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"Most people I know from Germany,have oral with condom. " Have you tried it yourself? | |||
"Health is no joking matter. Putting others at risk is criminal isnt it?? Any trolls on here making fun about STI should just be banned. That's my humble opinion. "... It's a form of assault to knowingly pass on one | |||
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"After reading this we are seriously thinking about leaving fab we get checked every 3 months in our GP to have some on here not getting checked and passing STI on is not right " That's a risk you take when non-monogamous, regardless of where you meet people. It's best to presume that anyone could be infected and take what you consider to be reasonable precautions as well as getting tested regularly. | |||
"After reading this we are seriously thinking about leaving fab we get checked every 3 months in our GP to have some on here not getting checked and passing STI on is not right That's a risk you take when non-monogamous, regardless of where you meet people. It's best to presume that anyone could be infected and take what you consider to be reasonable precautions as well as getting tested regularly." Finally a wise word without scaremongering. Being a witness as well as a victim of a lot of accusations I noticed a pattern. Someone falls out with someone else, upset party shouts "watch out, STI", everyone starts whispering about it. Even worse when accused person doesn't have it - there's literally no way to prove it and when they try to deny it - they're just looked upon at as biggest lying scumbags. If everyone would just act as a grown up and took their own precautions instead of listening to rumours - world would be a better, less scary place. | |||
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"I just don’t understand the stigma some people still have about getting tested regularly. I personally prefer to go to my gp regularly for my tests but I’ve also used the clinic in Waterford and they’ve all been really professional and results came back quickly. " I remember being very nervous going to my first checkup in my 20s and still get slightly anxious of bumping into someone I know but that's the price I prefer to pay(not pay) for something free.  | |||
"After reading this we are seriously thinking about leaving fab we get checked every 3 months in our GP to have some on here not getting checked and passing STI on is not right That's a risk you take when non-monogamous, regardless of where you meet people. It's best to presume that anyone could be infected and take what you consider to be reasonable precautions as well as getting tested regularly. Finally a wise word without scaremongering. Being a witness as well as a victim of a lot of accusations I noticed a pattern. Someone falls out with someone else, upset party shouts "watch out, STI", everyone starts whispering about it. Even worse when accused person doesn't have it - there's literally no way to prove it and when they try to deny it - they're just looked upon at as biggest lying scumbags. If everyone would just act as a grown up and took their own precautions instead of listening to rumours - world would be a better, less scary place. " Exactly | |||
"I just don’t understand the stigma some people still have about getting tested regularly. I personally prefer to go to my gp regularly for my tests but I’ve also used the clinic in Waterford and they’ve all been really professional and results came back quickly. I remember being very nervous going to my first checkup in my 20s and still get slightly anxious of bumping into someone I know but that's the price I prefer to pay(not pay) for something free. "I only had my first test after I turned 40 (before I started swinging). I had just started dating again after 15 years and was booking my smear test with my GP and thought fuck it, I'll get screened too and make sure everything is OK. It was, and I've scheduled regular appointments since. She laughed at me last time because when she asked how many partners I'd had since my last test, I realised I'd only had sex on two occasions since my last one, and both times were with my long-term fwb But she also knows there have been times where I might have had sex with 3 or 4 different partners aside from him within a 6 month period. I have to admit, my GP is excellent. She's completely non-judgmental, really knows her stuff and offers excellent advice, and some of my conversations with her have really made me think about how idiotic some of our approaches to sex, and particularly what we assume is 'safe sex' really are.
Condoms don't prevent the spread of infection. Getting tested and making sure you haven't got one does. | |||
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"I go every six month's as I think it's good to look after your sexual health. The last time I attended the clinic based in Portlaoise hospital the nurse told me that the increase of Stds has increased dramatically. She also mentioned that I was the only one attending that evenings clinic that was not presenting with symptoms. So basically most people don't do regular checks - they wait till they get symptoms. "Well all I know is I attend like clock work every six month's and every time the nurse's say that they wished people took that approach rather than waiting for symptoms. | |||
"Doctors and nurses prefer to know how many partners one has been with,so they can keep an eye for the strain of sti. No Shame in getting checked. It's part of being a responsible sexually active adult. " I’ve never been asked those sort of questions . Do the tests then get the results .Happy days. | |||
"I just don’t understand the stigma some people still have about getting tested regularly. I personally prefer to go to my gp regularly for my tests but I’ve also used the clinic in Waterford and they’ve all been really professional and results came back quickly. I remember being very nervous going to my first checkup in my 20s and still get slightly anxious of bumping into someone I know but that's the price I prefer to pay(not pay) for something free.
I only had my first test after I turned 40 (before I started swinging). I had just started dating again after 15 years and was booking my smear test with my GP and thought fuck it, I'll get screened too and make sure everything is OK. It was, and I've scheduled regular appointments since. She laughed at me last time because when she asked how many partners I'd had since my last test, I realised I'd only had sex on two occasions since my last one, and both times were with my long-term fwb But she also knows there have been times where I might have had sex with 3 or 4 different partners aside from him within a 6 month period. I have to admit, my GP is excellent. She's completely non-judgmental, really knows her stuff and offers excellent advice, and some of my conversations with her have really made me think about how idiotic some of our approaches to sex, and particularly what we assume is 'safe sex' really are.
Condoms don't prevent the spread of infection. Getting tested and making sure you haven't got one does."Very well said | |||
"Kinda glad I haven't met anyone on here yet. Bet your over the moon that you have not met anyone. " | |||
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"I think the day will come when it will be normal to produce some kinda STI card before having sex." Surely some phone app | |||
"I think the day will come when it will be normal to produce some kinda STI card before having sex." Interesting how many on the forums have mocked and laughed at my insurance on asking any one I meet if they are willing to show me their last two test results. I have mine going back at least 3 yrs. Been told it's rude or none of my business by forumites. I feel anyone not willing obviously doesn't take my health seriously let alone theirs and could be hiding something. | |||
"After reading this we are seriously thinking about leaving fab we get checked every 3 months in our GP to have some on here not getting checked and passing STI on is not right That's a risk you take when non-monogamous, regardless of where you meet people. It's best to presume that anyone could be infected and take what you consider to be reasonable precautions as well as getting tested regularly." I'd add to that, know who you're playing with too. You're only safe and clear the day of your test. Like the not, good only for that day. Some things show up after 3 months and appear after your 'clear' test. | |||
"I think the day will come when it will be normal to produce some kinda STI card before having sex. Interesting how many on the forums have mocked and laughed at my insurance on asking any one I meet if they are willing to show me their last two test results. I have mine going back at least 3 yrs. Been told it's rude or none of my business by forumites. I feel anyone not willing obviously doesn't take my health seriously let alone theirs and could be hiding something." My clinic has never given me a copy of results. Is this normal? | |||
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"I think the day will come when it will be normal to produce some kinda STI card before having sex. Interesting how many on the forums have mocked and laughed at my insurance on asking any one I meet if they are willing to show me their last two test results. I have mine going back at least 3 yrs. Been told it's rude or none of my business by forumites. I feel anyone not willing obviously doesn't take my health seriously let alone theirs and could be hiding something. My clinic has never given me a copy of results. Is this normal?" No news is good news where I go. Yes, some places offer to text or send results, but it's just inconvenient for me to get there so no news is good enough for me. If anyone else isn't comfortable with that - ah well, their problem not mine. | |||
"I think the day will come when it will be normal to produce some kinda STI card before having sex. Interesting how many on the forums have mocked and laughed at my insurance on asking any one I meet if they are willing to show me their last two test results. I have mine going back at least 3 yrs. Been told it's rude or none of my business by forumites. I feel anyone not willing obviously doesn't take my health seriously let alone theirs and could be hiding something. My clinic has never given me a copy of results. Is this normal? No news is good news where I go. Yes, some places offer to text or send results, but it's just inconvenient for me to get there so no news is good enough for me. If anyone else isn't comfortable with that - ah well, their problem not mine. " My place insist you return in person regardless and read through every test result in detail. (But they don't give a copy) A detailed email for clear results instead would be a lot better though IMO | |||
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"I think the day will come when it will be normal to produce some kinda STI card before having sex. Interesting how many on the forums have mocked and laughed at my insurance on asking any one I meet if they are willing to show me their last two test results. I have mine going back at least 3 yrs. Been told it's rude or none of my business by forumites. I feel anyone not willing obviously doesn't take my health seriously let alone theirs and could be hiding something. My clinic has never given me a copy of results. Is this normal? No news is good news where I go. Yes, some places offer to text or send results, but it's just inconvenient for me to get there so no news is good enough for me. If anyone else isn't comfortable with that - ah well, their problem not mine. " I always insist on checking for results of any medical test, no guarantee they didn't lose your sample or your results or neglect to relay a test result that requires treatment. | |||
"I think the day will come when it will be normal to produce some kinda STI card before having sex. Interesting how many on the forums have mocked and laughed at my insurance on asking any one I meet if they are willing to show me their last two test results. I have mine going back at least 3 yrs. Been told it's rude or none of my business by forumites. I feel anyone not willing obviously doesn't take my health seriously let alone theirs and could be hiding something. My clinic has never given me a copy of results. Is this normal?" I get a txt message stating date attended and clear. If not clear then they'd call. | |||
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"But it people wanting unprotected Sex amazes me. I always use Protection" This is the problem though. People assume that because they always use protection that they are protected and don't bother getting tested. Condoms only reduce risk. They don't fully protect. Skin on skin contact happens anyway, just not internally, and most guys will slap on a condom with the same fingers they've just had inside someone's foof during foreplay... Pointless! There's no point being smug about condom use and thinking you don't need to be tested... You're still just as vulnerable. | |||
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"Hi all, HLB here i am a health care professional sand I’m a big advocate for safe sex and watching our sexual health. Often giving out to people I see playing unsafe on here (I know their choice ...... but after 13 years in the sites we’ve been to a few parties in which we witnessed no one using condoms). Firstly nothing against the people who follow this practice but we all know there are a lot on here who don’t use condoms at all. This in my opinion is very unsafe for everyone they meet afterwards who try play safe. We all know there are condoms, dental dams etc around. In addition getting vaccinated against hep A and B when sexually active is advisable. Also for the risk of HIV there is the drug PREP which can be taken. The issue for HIV is the people who don’t know they have the disease. Anyone who has been diagnosed and is receiving treatment generally has a viral load of less than 90% after 2 months of treatment. A low or undetectable viral load means the disease is not transmitted to another person. Just a few little tips for anyone who may be feeling a bit overwhelmed after reading this forum thread x" I forgot to add a lot on here think a lot of these diseases are passed around by the bi/ gay male community. That is total nonsense look up stats its a mixture of sexes and socioeconomic groups and sexual orientations. Aka playing with straight people does not indicate that sex is safe, | |||
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"And yet only today you read an update of a woman from a couple who had an 11 man gangbang , all cumming inside her " Honestly now... Who are we all judging more, the woman for allowing them, or the 11 men? Are we assuming that they are any less 'clean' or responsible about getting tested than say a single or couple attending a club or party and playing with multiple partners? I completely understand people's desire to indulge their fetishes responsibly, and wouldn't judge anyone for doing so, anymore than I would judge anyone for enjoying watersports or S&M, but responsibly is the key word here. Actually... If anyone has this fetish and would like to give their side, and talk about the measures they take, I'd love to hear them. Preferably openly on the thread as it might provide insight to everyone, and maybe quash a few myths, but I also understand that some may be reluctant to speak up because of fear of judgement, so I'll drop my mail filters for a while if anyone would prefer to reply privately | |||
"And yet only today you read an update of a woman from a couple who had an 11 man gangbang , all cumming inside her Honestly now... Who are we all judging more, the woman for allowing them, or the 11 men? Are we assuming that they are any less 'clean' or responsible about getting tested than say a single or couple attending a club or party and playing with multiple partners? I completely understand people's desire to indulge their fetishes responsibly, and wouldn't judge anyone for doing so, anymore than I would judge anyone for enjoying watersports or S&M, but responsibly is the key word here. Actually... If anyone has this fetish and would like to give their side, and talk about the measures they take, I'd love to hear them. Preferably openly on the thread as it might provide insight to everyone, and maybe quash a few myths, but I also understand that some may be reluctant to speak up because of fear of judgement, so I'll drop my mail filters for a while if anyone would prefer to reply privately "I’m not judging anyone. Just posted this as an example relevant to the discussion | |||
"And yet only today you read an update of a woman from a couple who had an 11 man gangbang , all cumming inside her Honestly now... Who are we all judging more, the woman for allowing them, or the 11 men? Are we assuming that they are any less 'clean' or responsible about getting tested than say a single or couple attending a club or party and playing with multiple partners? I completely understand people's desire to indulge their fetishes responsibly, and wouldn't judge anyone for doing so, anymore than I would judge anyone for enjoying watersports or S&M, but responsibly is the key word here. Actually... If anyone has this fetish and would like to give their side, and talk about the measures they take, I'd love to hear them. Preferably openly on the thread as it might provide insight to everyone, and maybe quash a few myths, but I also understand that some may be reluctant to speak up because of fear of judgement, so I'll drop my mail filters for a while if anyone would prefer to reply privately
I’m not judging anyone. Just posted this as an example relevant to the discussion". I didn't assume you were... I was using 'we' as a collective, not in the royal sense My own initial reaction on reading your post was but then my reason kicked in and started questioning why I made that snap assumption and judgement. I have my own fetishes that other people don't understand, and improperly used, they too could cause harm, so why did I snap-judge someone else for theirs? | |||
"I have my own fetishes that other people don't understand, and improperly used, they too could cause harm.... " We would love to find out more about those fetishes and how not to improperly use them  and cause harm! | |||
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"And yet only today you read an update of a woman from a couple who had an 11 man gangbang , all cumming inside her Honestly now... Who are we all judging more, the woman for allowing them, or the 11 men? Are we assuming that they are any less 'clean' or responsible about getting tested than say a single or couple attending a club or party and playing with multiple partners? I completely understand people's desire to indulge their fetishes responsibly, and wouldn't judge anyone for doing so, anymore than I would judge anyone for enjoying watersports or S&M, but responsibly is the key word here. Actually... If anyone has this fetish and would like to give their side, and talk about the measures they take, I'd love to hear them. Preferably openly on the thread as it might provide insight to everyone, and maybe quash a few myths, but I also understand that some may be reluctant to speak up because of fear of judgement, so I'll drop my mail filters for a while if anyone would prefer to reply privately
I’m not judging anyone. Just posted this as an example relevant to the discussion"
I didn't see you judging anyone. I'd say you were misjudged if anything which is ironic. | |||
"Hi all, HLB here i am a health care professional sand I’m a big advocate for safe sex and watching our sexual health. Often giving out to people I see playing unsafe on here (I know their choice ...... but after 13 years in the sites we’ve been to a few parties in which we witnessed no one using condoms). Firstly nothing against the people who follow this practice but we all know there are a lot on here who don’t use condoms at all. This in my opinion is very unsafe for everyone they meet afterwards who try play safe. We all know there are condoms, dental dams etc around. In addition getting vaccinated against hep A and B when sexually active is advisable. Also for the risk of HIV there is the drug PREP which can be taken. The issue for HIV is the people who don’t know they have the disease. Anyone who has been diagnosed and is receiving treatment generally has a viral load of less than 90% after 2 months of treatment. A low or undetectable viral load means the disease is not transmitted to another person. Just a few little tips for anyone who may be feeling a bit overwhelmed after reading this forum thread x I forgot to add a lot on here think a lot of these diseases are passed around by the bi/ gay male community. That is total nonsense look up stats its a mixture of sexes and socioeconomic groups and sexual orientations. Aka playing with straight people does not indicate that sex is safe," Hi, Can you post some links or something to this point? Thanks, | |||
"And yet only today you read an update of a woman from a couple who had an 11 man gangbang , all cumming inside her Honestly now... Who are we all judging more, the woman for allowing them, or the 11 men? Are we assuming that they are any less 'clean' or responsible about getting tested than say a single or couple attending a club or party and playing with multiple partners? I completely understand people's desire to indulge their fetishes responsibly, and wouldn't judge anyone for doing so, anymore than I would judge anyone for enjoying watersports or S&M, but responsibly is the key word here. Actually... If anyone has this fetish and would like to give their side, and talk about the measures they take, I'd love to hear them. Preferably openly on the thread as it might provide insight to everyone, and maybe quash a few myths, but I also understand that some may be reluctant to speak up because of fear of judgement, so I'll drop my mail filters for a while if anyone would prefer to reply privately
I’m not judging anyone. Just posted this as an example relevant to the discussion
I didn't see you judging anyone. I'd say you were misjudged if anything which is ironic."I didn't misjudge, as explained in a subsequent post, my use of 'we' was misinterpreted. It was a societal reference rather than about anyone in particular, it just happened to be in reply to his comment as he provided the example. | |||
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"And yet only today you read an update of a woman from a couple who had an 11 man gangbang , all cumming inside her Honestly now... Who are we all judging more, the woman for allowing them, or the 11 men? Are we assuming that they are any less 'clean' or responsible about getting tested than say a single or couple attending a club or party and playing with multiple partners? I completely understand people's desire to indulge their fetishes responsibly, and wouldn't judge anyone for doing so, anymore than I would judge anyone for enjoying watersports or S&M, but responsibly is the key word here. Actually... If anyone has this fetish and would like to give their side, and talk about the measures they take, I'd love to hear them. Preferably openly on the thread as it might provide insight to everyone, and maybe quash a few myths, but I also understand that some may be reluctant to speak up because of fear of judgement, so I'll drop my mail filters for a while if anyone would prefer to reply privately
I’m not judging anyone. Just posted this as an example relevant to the discussion
I didn't see you judging anyone. I'd say you were misjudged if anything which is ironic.
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"Hi all, HLB here i am a health care professional sand I’m a big advocate for safe sex and watching our sexual health. Often giving out to people I see playing unsafe on here (I know their choice ...... but after 13 years in the sites we’ve been to a few parties in which we witnessed no one using condoms). Firstly nothing against the people who follow this practice but we all know there are a lot on here who don’t use condoms at all. This in my opinion is very unsafe for everyone they meet afterwards who try play safe. We all know there are condoms, dental dams etc around. In addition getting vaccinated against hep A and B when sexually active is advisable. Also for the risk of HIV there is the drug PREP which can be taken. The issue for HIV is the people who don’t know they have the disease. Anyone who has been diagnosed and is receiving treatment generally has a viral load of less than 90% after 2 months of treatment. A low or undetectable viral load means the disease is not transmitted to another person. Just a few little tips for anyone who may be feeling a bit overwhelmed after reading this forum thread x I forgot to add a lot on here think a lot of these diseases are passed around by the bi/ gay male community. That is total nonsense look up stats its a mixture of sexes and socioeconomic groups and sexual orientations. Aka playing with straight people does not indicate that sex is safe, Hi, Can you post some links or something to this point? Thanks," Of course: This link is the easiest read https://www.hivireland.ie/hiv/hiv-in-ireland/ 50% cases men who sleep with men 33% heterosexual cases Reduction in cases for bi/ gay men. Increase in cases of heterosexual sex | |||
"This is very serious and i am taking a big risk here that i will be ridiculed but it has to be said... More than 1 person has come to us in confidence saying that over the last number of weeks they have picked up a very nasty STI. I would urge anyone who has been active meeting on fab to do what we have done and get tested. We were clear but others have not been so lucky. Also people need to remember it can be picked up from oral very easily and most importantly it is silent and most people wont have symtoms.." I haven't been very active for the past 10 months. My GF and I got tested last month, I had nothing wrong with me. It's all clear with me and my ex other two exes( I asked them, and they were happy to say that they are all goo) , but I still got an injection just in case. So my entire body is perfect :D Guys, it's a good habit to buy those candida and thrush supplements once a year*that is what I do). Every single person here have it, it's part of our body flora, but if your are not having a healthy life those natural fungus can blow and overgrow, causing loads of issues. So the supplements will keep them under control (and in case you don't have a healthy life a fungal antibiotic every two or three years)
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"Hi all, HLB here i am a health care professional sand I’m a big advocate for safe sex and watching our sexual health. Often giving out to people I see playing unsafe on here (I know their choice ...... but after 13 years in the sites we’ve been to a few parties in which we witnessed no one using condoms). Firstly nothing against the people who follow this practice but we all know there are a lot on here who don’t use condoms at all. This in my opinion is very unsafe for everyone they meet afterwards who try play safe. We all know there are condoms, dental dams etc around. In addition getting vaccinated against hep A and B when sexually active is advisable. Also for the risk of HIV there is the drug PREP which can be taken. The issue for HIV is the people who don’t know they have the disease. Anyone who has been diagnosed and is receiving treatment generally has a viral load of less than 90% after 2 months of treatment. A low or undetectable viral load means the disease is not transmitted to another person. Just a few little tips for anyone who may be feeling a bit overwhelmed after reading this forum thread x I forgot to add a lot on here think a lot of these diseases are passed around by the bi/ gay male community. That is total nonsense look up stats its a mixture of sexes and socioeconomic groups and sexual orientations. Aka playing with straight people does not indicate that sex is safe, Hi, Can you post some links or something to this point? Thanks, Of course: This link is the easiest read https://www.hivireland.ie/hiv/hiv-in-ireland/ 50% cases men who sleep with men 33% heterosexual cases Reduction in cases for bi/ gay men. Increase in cases of heterosexual sex" Another interesting article: https://www.nhs.uk/news/older-people/swingers-at-greater-risk-of-stis/ | |||
"Hi all, HLB here i am a health care professional sand I’m a big advocate for safe sex and watching our sexual health. Often giving out to people I see playing unsafe on here (I know their choice ...... but after 13 years in the sites we’ve been to a few parties in which we witnessed no one using condoms). Firstly nothing against the people who follow this practice but we all know there are a lot on here who don’t use condoms at all. This in my opinion is very unsafe for everyone they meet afterwards who try play safe. We all know there are condoms, dental dams etc around. In addition getting vaccinated against hep A and B when sexually active is advisable. Also for the risk of HIV there is the drug PREP which can be taken. The issue for HIV is the people who don’t know they have the disease. Anyone who has been diagnosed and is receiving treatment generally has a viral load of less than 90% after 2 months of treatment. A low or undetectable viral load means the disease is not transmitted to another person. Just a few little tips for anyone who may be feeling a bit overwhelmed after reading this forum thread x I forgot to add a lot on here think a lot of these diseases are passed around by the bi/ gay male community. That is total nonsense look up stats its a mixture of sexes and socioeconomic groups and sexual orientations. Aka playing with straight people does not indicate that sex is safe, Hi, Can you post some links or something to this point? Thanks, Of course: This link is the easiest read https://www.hivireland.ie/hiv/hiv-in-ireland/ 50% cases men who sleep with men 33% heterosexual cases Reduction in cases for bi/ gay men. Increase in cases of heterosexual sex Another interesting article: https://www.nhs.uk/news/older-people/swingers-at-greater-risk-of-stis/" Why are we checking UK's links(much bigger population)? To feel safer and less worried? Come on, go to the Guide clinic / HSE website, which says all about the local scene aka RO-Ireland
STI in Ireland is increasing due to lack of awareness and silly acts of responsibility, and there is no one to blame other then looking at ourselves on the mirror and take ownership
https://www.hse.ie/eng/health/immunisation/hcpinfo/othervaccines/hpv/hpvsafety/
https://www.thejournal.ie/sti-data-ireland-sexually-transmitted-infections-4584507-Apr2019/
http://www.guideclinic.ie/sti-clinic/useful-links
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"Hi all, HLB here i am a health care professional sand I’m a big advocate for safe sex and watching our sexual health. Often giving out to people I see playing unsafe on here (I know their choice ...... but after 13 years in the sites we’ve been to a few parties in which we witnessed no one using condoms). Firstly nothing against the people who follow this practice but we all know there are a lot on here who don’t use condoms at all. This in my opinion is very unsafe for everyone they meet afterwards who try play safe. We all know there are condoms, dental dams etc around. In addition getting vaccinated against hep A and B when sexually active is advisable. Also for the risk of HIV there is the drug PREP which can be taken. The issue for HIV is the people who don’t know they have the disease. Anyone who has been diagnosed and is receiving treatment generally has a viral load of less than 90% after 2 months of treatment. A low or undetectable viral load means the disease is not transmitted to another person. Just a few little tips for anyone who may be feeling a bit overwhelmed after reading this forum thread x I forgot to add a lot on here think a lot of these diseases are passed around by the bi/ gay male community. That is total nonsense look up stats its a mixture of sexes and socioeconomic groups and sexual orientations. Aka playing with straight people does not indicate that sex is safe, Hi, Can you post some links or something to this point? Thanks, Of course: This link is the easiest read https://www.hivireland.ie/hiv/hiv-in-ireland/ 50% cases men who sleep with men 33% heterosexual cases Reduction in cases for bi/ gay men. Increase in cases of heterosexual sex Another interesting article: https://www.nhs.uk/news/older-people/swingers-at-greater-risk-of-stis/ Why are we checking UK's links(much bigger population)? To feel safer and less worried? Come on, go to the Guide clinic / HSE website, which says all about the local scene aka RO-Ireland
STI in Ireland is increasing due to lack of awareness and silly acts of responsibility, and there is no one to blame other then looking at ourselves on the mirror and take ownership
https://www.hse.ie/eng/health/immunisation/hcpinfo/othervaccines/hpv/hpvsafety/
https://www.thejournal.ie/sti-data-ireland-sexually-transmitted-infections-4584507-Apr2019/
http://www.guideclinic.ie/sti-clinic/useful-links
"I have Irish stats above Anyone interested HSE website has all stats xxxx
Agree totally ref lack of awareness | |||
"Hi all, HLB here i am a health care professional sand I’m a big advocate for safe sex and watching our sexual health. Often giving out to people I see playing unsafe on here (I know their choice ...... but after 13 years in the sites we’ve been to a few parties in which we witnessed no one using condoms). Firstly nothing against the people who follow this practice but we all know there are a lot on here who don’t use condoms at all. This in my opinion is very unsafe for everyone they meet afterwards who try play safe. We all know there are condoms, dental dams etc around. In addition getting vaccinated against hep A and B when sexually active is advisable. Also for the risk of HIV there is the drug PREP which can be taken. The issue for HIV is the people who don’t know they have the disease. Anyone who has been diagnosed and is receiving treatment generally has a viral load of less than 90% after 2 months of treatment. A low or undetectable viral load means the disease is not transmitted to another person. Just a few little tips for anyone who may be feeling a bit overwhelmed after reading this forum thread x I forgot to add a lot on here think a lot of these diseases are passed around by the bi/ gay male community. That is total nonsense look up stats its a mixture of sexes and socioeconomic groups and sexual orientations. Aka playing with straight people does not indicate that sex is safe, Hi, Can you post some links or something to this point? Thanks, Of course: This link is the easiest read https://www.hivireland.ie/hiv/hiv-in-ireland/ 50% cases men who sleep with men 33% heterosexual cases Reduction in cases for bi/ gay men. Increase in cases of heterosexual sex Another interesting article: https://www.nhs.uk/news/older-people/swingers-at-greater-risk-of-stis/ Why are we checking UK's links(much bigger population)? To feel safer and less worried? Come on, go to the Guide clinic / HSE website, which says all about the local scene aka RO-Ireland
STI in Ireland is increasing due to lack of awareness and silly acts of responsibility, and there is no one to blame other then looking at ourselves on the mirror and take ownership
https://www.hse.ie/eng/health/immunisation/hcpinfo/othervaccines/hpv/hpvsafety/
https://www.thejournal.ie/sti-data-ireland-sexually-transmitted-infections-4584507-Apr2019/
http://www.guideclinic.ie/sti-clinic/useful-links
I have Irish stats above Anyone interested HSE website has all stats xxxx
Agree totally ref lack of awareness "Than you Koolio :D XOXOXOX | |||
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"Thanks, perhaps i am just looking at particular information but if i take this paragraph from the journal.ie article straight from the hse. “In recent years, the greatest burden of STIs is among young people aged between 15-24 and men who have sex with men (MSM), according to the HSE. “ Is this fact?" Sexual education falling somewhere? Teach in school from age 13 and everyone will be safer Even parents should be encouraged to talk about it (of course with the right approach, but sadly some parents are brutes). | |||
"Thanks, perhaps i am just looking at particular information but if i take this paragraph from the journal.ie article straight from the hse. “In recent years, the greatest burden of STIs is among young people aged between 15-24 and men who have sex with men (MSM), according to the HSE. “ Is this fact? Sexual education falling somewhere? Teach in school from age 13 and everyone will be safer Even parents should be encouraged to talk about it (of course with the right approach, but sadly some parents are brutes)."Another fact left out: Heterosexual contact was the second most commonly reported mode of transmission in 2017 (163; 33% | |||
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"Thanks, perhaps i am just looking at particular information but if i take this paragraph from the journal.ie article straight from the hse. “In recent years, the greatest burden of STIs is among young people aged between 15-24 and men who have sex with men (MSM), according to the HSE. “ Is this fact? Sexual education falling somewhere? Teach in school from age 13 and everyone will be safer Even parents should be encouraged to talk about it (of course with the right approach, but sadly some parents are brutes).
Another fact left out:
Heterosexual contact was the second most commonly reported mode of transmission in 2017 (163; 33%"Your comment was —— I forgot to add a lot on here think a lot of these diseases are passed around by the bi/ gay male community. That is total nonsense look up stats its a mixture of sexes and socioeconomic groups and sexual orientations. Aka playing with straight people does not indicate that sex is safe, ——— How is it nonsense? I looked up the link you supplied and posted above what is on the site you supplied and it says m2m in 2017 had 53% of cases thats over half of all new cases related to bi/gay men. Correct? | |||
"So i looked at the link supplied by koolio Sex between men was the “””predominant”” route of HIV transmission in Ireland in 2017 and accounted for just over half of diagnoses (262, 53%). Heterosexual contact was the second most commonly reported mode of transmission in 2017 (163; 33%). 5% of new diagnoses (n=17) were among people who inject drugs. Correct me if i am wrong but that implies that nearly 2/3rds of new cases are from male to male intercourse? " How many stories I heart about partners cheating each other and having extremely secret affairs. Partners that don't tell their wives/husbands that they are having homosexual encounters... Now you see where the "heterosexual" may have gotten the STI, but there is hygiene to to account in this equation too, and many other variable... Awareness and honesty is the only key... Come on, I hope people here are as responsible and honest as possible | |||
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"Some good information. Shame it's been clearly misused and misinterpreted by some. Read the facts and don't try to manipulate them for your own agendas." the best advice as always Mr Midas | |||
"Some good information. Shame it's been clearly misused and misinterpreted by some. Read the facts and don't try to manipulate them for your own agendas." Stop talking sense | |||
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"http://www.mylan.ie/en-ie/news/2012/mylan-launches-new-self-administered-hiv-detection-kit-in-ireland FYI for all xxx I’m out of the forums again.... I forgot how hateful some people are in them unless your just like them.... just this was highlighted to me in a Kik message as it has a lot worried in the community x " Who was being hateful? | |||
"http://www.mylan.ie/en-ie/news/2012/mylan-launches-new-self-administered-hiv-detection-kit-in-ireland FYI for all xxx I’m out of the forums again.... I forgot how hateful some people are in them unless your just like them.... just this was highlighted to me in a Kik message as it has a lot worried in the community x Who was being hateful? " I am wondering too O.o | |||
"http://www.mylan.ie/en-ie/news/2012/mylan-launches-new-self-administered-hiv-detection-kit-in-ireland FYI for all xxx I’m out of the forums again.... I forgot how hateful some people are in them unless your just like them.... just this was highlighted to me in a Kik message as it has a lot worried in the community x Who was being hateful? " Im wondering too...
Having different opinion has nothing to being hateful... | |||
"http://www.mylan.ie/en-ie/news/2012/mylan-launches-new-self-administered-hiv-detection-kit-in-ireland FYI for all xxx I’m out of the forums again.... I forgot how hateful some people are in them unless your just like them.... just this was highlighted to me in a Kik message as it has a lot worried in the community x Who was being hateful? Im wondering too...
Having different opinion has nothing to being hateful... "Hearing different opinions is the best thing about the Forums! It's what keeps things interesting and opens our eyes to new perspectives | |||
"http://www.mylan.ie/en-ie/news/2012/mylan-launches-new-self-administered-hiv-detection-kit-in-ireland FYI for all xxx I’m out of the forums again.... I forgot how hateful some people are in them unless your just like them.... just this was highlighted to me in a Kik message as it has a lot worried in the community x Who was being hateful? Im wondering too...
Having different opinion has nothing to being hateful...
Hearing different opinions is the best thing about the Forums! It's what keeps things interesting and opens our eyes to new perspectives "Exactly! | |||
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"For anyone who is iffy about going to their GP or a clinic you can get an online service from letsgetchecked.com. They send you a sample kit you follow the instructions post the sample and few days later you get an email with results. No human contact necessary. I see they offer nursing advice if any test is positive. But if your nervous that's one answer" Fairplay Tom, thats great information | |||
"For anyone who is iffy about going to their GP or a clinic you can get an online service from letsgetchecked.com. They send you a sample kit you follow the instructions post the sample and few days later you get an email with results. No human contact necessary. I see they offer nursing advice if any test is positive. But if your nervous that's one answer" | |||
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"we are all here taking risks!!! whoever thinks otherwise is naive , so that person in mentioned by Op was having unprotected sex ? or "she/he got infected by oral?" facts 1) everyone here takes risks 2) people will have unprotected sex 3) no many people get tested even if they say they do ! 4) should never trust anyone that tells you they have been tested to engage in unprotected sex! 5) if you are still here ... well accept the risk and look after your own health no that of others as is not within your control what others do or don't do! " 100% spot on | |||
