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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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The Irish times reporting this evening that the Garda involved in the notorious Carla vid is to face expulsion from the force for cheeky clip uploaded to a porn site . The justice minister who has the power to decide his fate has opted for this course of action instead of the fine which would have been the usual punishment . Once again folks it’s all fun and games until someone’s eye gets poked out  |
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"The Irish times reporting this evening that the Garda involved in the notorious Carla vid is to face expulsion from the force for cheeky clip uploaded to a porn site . The justice minister who has the power to decide his fate has opted for this course of action instead of the fine which would have been the usual punishment . Once again folks it’s all fun and games until someone’s eye gets poked out "
Wasn't he a bit stupid showing more than he should of while being filmed  |
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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago
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So are yous all saying (except Paddy36) that he deserves expulsion? I've to say I agree with Paddy, the minister is a dry shite. Of all places sure you think on fab you'd find some that see it what it is without judgment: two people having sex and fun. So f**ing what? Yes some mistakes involved but expulsion? Seriously? |
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over a year ago
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It's not like you can say they're tarnishing the good name of An Garda Síochána  a fine and a suspension should suffice and a little more tact to be displayed in future |
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Yeah i agree dismissal is a bit much in this case because as was said it was two people fu&*ing. Then again he is gonna be made an example of because of his idiocy of being in full uniform and using a police vehicle  . So right or wrong the powers that be have to seem like they are doing something |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yeah i agree dismissal is a bit much in this case because as was said it was two people fu&*ing. Then again he is gonna be made an example of because of his idiocy of being in full uniform and using a police vehicle . So right or wrong the powers that be have to seem like they are doing something"
Exactly, that's the point, misuse of uniform and vehicle, who wants such a blatant idiot as a member of the Garda.  |
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To be honest I thought he would have lost his job ages ago. I am sorry but be brought his job and their vehical into it. He shouldn't have done that. What did he expect a clap on the back well done. He lost his marriage already his wife left him. He got into trouble from work as one would expect. If it was any one of us in a job no matter what type of job filming at work or in a company vehical while wearing a uniform we be sacked too. |
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"To be honest I thought he would have lost his job ages ago. I am sorry but be brought his job and their vehical into it. He shouldn't have done that. What did he expect a clap on the back well done. He lost his marriage already his wife left him. He got into trouble from work as one would expect. If it was any one of us in a job no matter what type of job filming at work or in a company vehical while wearing a uniform we be sacked too. "
-particularly if it's a job that needs to hold the respect of the public who are paying for it |
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"To be honest I thought he would have lost his job ages ago. I am sorry but be brought his job and their vehical into it. He shouldn't have done that. What did he expect a clap on the back well done. He lost his marriage already his wife left him. He got into trouble from work as one would expect. If it was any one of us in a job no matter what type of job filming at work or in a company vehical while wearing a uniform we be sacked too.
-particularly if it's a job that needs to hold the respect of the public who are paying for it"
That too but any job. Even if it was a supermarket staff, office worker, teacher etc there bound to be trouble if caughted. If it was a teacher for example doing it in a school and got caughted straight away they get sacked for bringing the job into question.
I know the guy I do feel sorry for him but at that particular time unfortunately it was sick ruling not his head. |
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I feel very sorry for this guy.. he should just have had a rap on the knuckles (fine/suspension/whatever) and be allowed to get on with it. He’s lost enough already. It wasn’t just him involved and the other person (who profited from all the publicity) gets away with it completely. Think with your big brain lads..
There is a lesson to be learned here.. hopefully no one else gets caught out by others uploading to porn sites. |
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"I feel very sorry for this guy.. he should just have had a rap on the knuckles (fine/suspension/whatever) and be allowed to get on with it. He’s lost enough already. It wasn’t just him involved and the other person (who profited from all the publicity) gets away with it completely. Think with your big brain lads..
There is a lesson to be learned here.. hopefully no one else gets caught out by others uploading to porn sites. "
To be fair if your looking at it from an employers pount of view soley then what he has or hasnt lost in his personal life due to it is irrelevent.
I dont know enough about Garda contacts to really comment but from my own expiriance in the.work place anywhere I have worked or been involved in reviewing procedures ect... even the smallest employers and companys have very clear policies in relation to how you represent the company on social media and in the public (esp those roles that involve a uniform). They would also have very strict policies in the use of company property and equipmemt.
Lastly only one of the people involved was bringing their professinal life clearly into play in this situation.
I do agree with you about the being very careful and hoping noone else gets caught out.
But look at two doctors and nurses thread, even if its fake people are so eager to view and share these things that the only sure fire way not to get caught out is not record in the first place |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I feel very sorry for this guy.. he should just have had a rap on the knuckles (fine/suspension/whatever) and be allowed to get on with it. He’s lost enough already. It wasn’t just him involved and the other person (who profited from all the publicity) gets away with it completely. Think with your big brain lads..
There is a lesson to be learned here.. hopefully no one else gets caught out by others uploading to porn sites.
To be fair if your looking at it from an employers pount of view soley then what he has or hasnt lost in his personal life due to it is irrelevent.
I dont know enough about Garda contacts to really comment but from my own expiriance in the.work place anywhere I have worked or been involved in reviewing procedures ect... even the smallest employers and companys have very clear policies in relation to how you represent the company on social media and in the public (esp those roles that involve a uniform). They would also have very strict policies in the use of company property and equipmemt.
Lastly only one of the people involved was bringing their professinal life clearly into play in this situation.
I do agree with you about the being very careful and hoping noone else gets caught out.
But look at two doctors and nurses thread, even if its fake people are so eager to view and share these things that the only sure fire way not to get caught out is not record in the first place"
Or at the very least, as I told my 18 year old, make sure your face isn't in any pics.!!! |
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I agree with him being sacked but I'm also flabbergasted how this little episode pales in comparison to the sexual shenanigans of more senior Gardaí in West Cork exposed during the Ian Bailey trial, for which they seemed to get a pat on the back, hup ya boya. |
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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago
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"Speaking of dumbass moves, should Leo be sacked for sending cringey fanmail to Kylie on Government headed paper?  "
The economic crash in 2008 has clearly shown that as an Irish politician you can fuck the whole country and you won't get sacked, but get rewarded with a fat state pension in the end. Nothing has been learned, nobody was held responsible and surely there's a good chance it will happen again... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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any employer in any company would have taken a similar approach to Garda Management. had distinguiting elements such as car reg & garda number not being real, then there would be no case. Lots of movies made with "stage garda uniform & look alike cars" ... but as others have pointed out the dick rules his head & Carla wanted to be famous...I cant see the guard getting any sympathy from the WRC if he goes the Labour court route.. a lesson for us all.
keep ur Fab life private, done use company computer to access the site, dont send messages from company email & dont use the company car/van/truck for meets
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I agree with him being sacked but I'm also flabbergasted how this little episode pales in comparison to the sexual shenanigans of more senior Gardaí in West Cork exposed during the Ian Bailey trial, for which they seemed to get a pat on the back, hup ya boya."
Alleged shenanigans I think would be more accurate as I recall he wasnt charged etc.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"any employer in any company would have taken a similar approach to Garda Management. had distinguiting elements such as car reg & garda number not being real, then there would be no case. Lots of movies made with "stage garda uniform & look alike cars" ... but as others have pointed out the dick rules his head & Carla wanted to be famous...I cant see the guard getting any sympathy from the WRC if he goes the Labour court route.. a lesson for us all.
keep ur Fab life private, done use company computer to access the site, dont send messages from company email & dont use the company car/van/truck for meets
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 remember the senior bank official who had to resign over accessing porn on his work computer. Use your brain people. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I agree with him being sacked but I'm also flabbergasted how this little episode pales in comparison to the sexual shenanigans of more senior Gardaí in West Cork exposed during the Ian Bailey trial, for which they seemed to get a pat on the back, hup ya boya.
Alleged shenanigans I think would be more accurate as I recall he wasnt charged etc...."
Yes they were alleged in the trial, but they weren't un-alleged either, all the evidence was thrown out on a technicality not for lack of truth. And there was no follow up investigation of the alleged shenanigans, in which these guys were abusing their power in the community, the Carla Garda was abusing his position but not to exert influence. God it's a cringy video all the same! He prob got sacked for making shite porn! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Carla is on this site
Time to shut up so, the tabloids and special branch will be all over Fab!"
They already were at the time, there were media interviews  |
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Are people really that outraged that he's losing his job? Should our public/civil servants not be held beyond reproach?
It's not like he didn't know he was being filmed or didn't know who she was. He wasn't tricked into anything or set up. He made a conscious decision to borrow a marked car and jacket for use in a porn clip. His mistake wasn't in being found out... His mistake was in doing it in the first place.
Am I being judgemental? Yes I am. Would I risk my livelihood for a quickie? Absolutely not. Do I hold him solely accountable? Absolutely not. Both parties were adults and knew what they were doing would bring our police force into disrepute. They did it anyway. I'm sure he's learned a valuable lesson over the past 2 years. From what others have said, he's lost more than his job. But it seems there are plenty more like him and they continue to put their jobs at risk, and the woman in question continues to be both complicit and mocks her detractors while enjoying her notoriety. |
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Don’t know how he was stupid enough even with a cock. As for him being fired how would anybody take him seriously in his role after that . All for 5 mins of fame |
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If he just had the uniform on, I think maybe suspension or a fine. But using the patrol car was fairly stupid. Does he deserve losing more than he's already lost?
On the job while on the job...some times fantasies are better left as a fantasy this cost him greatly.
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By *oghunter33Woman
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"Are people really that outraged that he's losing his job? Should our public/civil servants not be held beyond reproach?
It's not like he didn't know he was being filmed or didn't know who she was. He wasn't tricked into anything or set up. He made a conscious decision to borrow a marked car and jacket for use in a porn clip. His mistake wasn't in being found out... His mistake was in doing it in the first place.
Am I being judgemental? Yes I am. Would I risk my livelihood for a quickie? Absolutely not. Do I hold him solely accountable? Absolutely not. Both parties were adults and knew what they were doing would bring our police force into disrepute. They did it anyway. I'm sure he's learned a valuable lesson over the past 2 years. From what others have said, he's lost more than his job. But it seems there are plenty more like him and they continue to put their jobs at risk, and the woman in question continues to be both complicit and mocks her detractors while enjoying her notoriety."
Surely there are way bigger scandals that bring the garda in disrepute than a piddly bonnet fuck: McCabe inquiry, phantom alcohol tests, 1000s of reported crimes not being prosecuted.... just to mention the most recent ones. This whole carla-garda incident is tabloid rubbish.
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"Are people really that outraged that he's losing his job? Should our public/civil servants not be held beyond reproach?
It's not like he didn't know he was being filmed or didn't know who she was. He wasn't tricked into anything or set up. He made a conscious decision to borrow a marked car and jacket for use in a porn clip. His mistake wasn't in being found out... His mistake was in doing it in the first place.
Am I being judgemental? Yes I am. Would I risk my livelihood for a quickie? Absolutely not. Do I hold him solely accountable? Absolutely not. Both parties were adults and knew what they were doing would bring our police force into disrepute. They did it anyway. I'm sure he's learned a valuable lesson over the past 2 years. From what others have said, he's lost more than his job. But it seems there are plenty more like him and they continue to put their jobs at risk, and the woman in question continues to be both complicit and mocks her detractors while enjoying her notoriety.
Surely there are way bigger scandals that bring the garda in disrepute than a piddly bonnet fuck: McCabe inquiry, phantom alcohol tests, 1000s of reported crimes not being prosecuted.... just to mention the most recent ones. This whole carla-garda incident is tabloid rubbish.
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Also.. they way they treat gender based violence.
If you report a domestic dispute they don’t respond however if you say an assault occurred they are all over it.
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By (user no longer on site)
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Lads, if you where workignin mcdonalds and uploaded a video of you in uniform gettin the ride you’d be fired. Now imagine you’re a policeman.
Of course he should be fired. No question. It was stupid and idiotic.
"The Irish times reporting this evening that the Garda involved in the notorious Carla vid is to face expulsion from the force for cheeky clip uploaded to a porn site . The justice minister who has the power to decide his fate has opted for this course of action instead of the fine which would have been the usual punishment . Once again folks it’s all fun and games until someone’s eye gets poked out "
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By (user no longer on site)
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If I was caught fucking in or on the company vehicle I would be sacked and expect it.....that's not to say I haven't done it but to video it and put it out there was just stupid, he lost everything not just his job |
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"Are people really that outraged that he's losing his job? Should our public/civil servants not be held beyond reproach?
It's not like he didn't know he was being filmed or didn't know who she was. He wasn't tricked into anything or set up. He made a conscious decision to borrow a marked car and jacket for use in a porn clip. His mistake wasn't in being found out... His mistake was in doing it in the first place.
Am I being judgemental? Yes I am. Would I risk my livelihood for a quickie? Absolutely not. Do I hold him solely accountable? Absolutely not. Both parties were adults and knew what they were doing would bring our police force into disrepute. They did it anyway. I'm sure he's learned a valuable lesson over the past 2 years. From what others have said, he's lost more than his job. But it seems there are plenty more like him and they continue to put their jobs at risk, and the woman in question continues to be both complicit and mocks her detractors while enjoying her notoriety.
Surely there are way bigger scandals that bring the garda in disrepute than a piddly bonnet fuck: McCabe inquiry, phantom alcohol tests, 1000s of reported crimes not being prosecuted.... just to mention the most recent ones. This whole carla-garda incident is tabloid rubbish.
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I agree... There are much larger issues, and the adventures of one amateur porn star are usually nothing more than cheap tabloid fodder (although... the Irish Times doesn't come in tabloid format, does it?) But does accountability have a threshold?
If you were the victim of a serious or violent crime in Cork around time when all this was first publicised, and depending on your local Gardaí for their support, sensitivity and professionalism, would you not lose faith upon reading that those people you were relying on were making alternative use of Garda assets to make porn, would your heart not sink and wonder who's hands you'd put yourself and your trauma into? If you were struggling with a decision to come forward and report a serious crime against you, perhaps a sexual assault, would knowing that a Garda in your area was making porn in his spare time give you the confidence to do so?
It's not always about how daft or misguided someone's actions may be... There's always a bigger picture. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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It was Carla that’s her thing cops in uniform, the point is the Garda are so posed to setting an example for the rest of society, clearly they are just the same he was a fool to let her film it |
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"Small question, were they on the clock when they did it?
The issue of the car comes up if it delayed a response to a call out."
It doesnt really matter if it delayed a call at the time, it had the potential to do so.
Anyway if you worked in Woodies you cant be taking the forklift home to get a ride cause some chick has a thing for them |
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By *oghunter33Woman
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"Are people really that outraged that he's losing his job? Should our public/civil servants not be held beyond reproach?
It's not like he didn't know he was being filmed or didn't know who she was. He wasn't tricked into anything or set up. He made a conscious decision to borrow a marked car and jacket for use in a porn clip. His mistake wasn't in being found out... His mistake was in doing it in the first place.
Am I being judgemental? Yes I am. Would I risk my livelihood for a quickie? Absolutely not. Do I hold him solely accountable? Absolutely not. Both parties were adults and knew what they were doing would bring our police force into disrepute. They did it anyway. I'm sure he's learned a valuable lesson over the past 2 years. From what others have said, he's lost more than his job. But it seems there are plenty more like him and they continue to put their jobs at risk, and the woman in question continues to be both complicit and mocks her detractors while enjoying her notoriety.
Surely there are way bigger scandals that bring the garda in disrepute than a piddly bonnet fuck: McCabe inquiry, phantom alcohol tests, 1000s of reported crimes not being prosecuted.... just to mention the most recent ones. This whole carla-garda incident is tabloid rubbish.
I agree... There are much larger issues, and the adventures of one amateur porn star are usually nothing more than cheap tabloid fodder (although... the Irish Times doesn't come in tabloid format, does it?) But does accountability have a threshold?
If you were the victim of a serious or violent crime in Cork around time when all this was first publicised, and depending on your local Gardaí for their support, sensitivity and professionalism, would you not lose faith upon reading that those people you were relying on were making alternative use of Garda assets to make porn, would your heart not sink and wonder who's hands you'd put yourself and your trauma into? If you were struggling with a decision to come forward and report a serious crime against you, perhaps a sexual assault, would knowing that a Garda in your area was making porn in his spare time give you the confidence to do so?
It's not always about how daft or misguided someone's actions may be... There's always a bigger picture. "
No, not really.
As far as I know everyone can do what they like in their spare time as long it's not illegal. I can't see anything wrong with making a sex tape in your spare time. I've been there myself. So how could I hold that against anyone regardless of profession. Most of us are on here to have fun and sex with others, so how can I judge someone unprofessional for looking the same?
Taking a garda car without permission is a different story but the wrong doing in that has little to do with the sex act as such. Taking the police car without permission to go shopping would be equally wrong. |
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OK guys we're making a full length porn film! Can someone get a squad car and a few uniforms and some willing Fab volunteers? Plot: Heroine of our film gets coerced into gangbanging a bunch of wrinkly old senior rural guards to save her boyfriend being framed for a murder they're covering up. She gets her revenge by enticing every guard in the force into a compromising position on specialist porn site Porniform... |
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"Are people really that outraged that he's losing his job? Should our public/civil servants not be held beyond reproach?
It's not like he didn't know he was being filmed or didn't know who she was. He wasn't tricked into anything or set up. He made a conscious decision to borrow a marked car and jacket for use in a porn clip. His mistake wasn't in being found out... His mistake was in doing it in the first place.
Am I being judgemental? Yes I am. Would I risk my livelihood for a quickie? Absolutely not. Do I hold him solely accountable? Absolutely not. Both parties were adults and knew what they were doing would bring our police force into disrepute. They did it anyway. I'm sure he's learned a valuable lesson over the past 2 years. From what others have said, he's lost more than his job. But it seems there are plenty more like him and they continue to put their jobs at risk, and the woman in question continues to be both complicit and mocks her detractors while enjoying her notoriety.
Surely there are way bigger scandals that bring the garda in disrepute than a piddly bonnet fuck: McCabe inquiry, phantom alcohol tests, 1000s of reported crimes not being prosecuted.... just to mention the most recent ones. This whole carla-garda incident is tabloid rubbish.
I agree... There are much larger issues, and the adventures of one amateur porn star are usually nothing more than cheap tabloid fodder (although... the Irish Times doesn't come in tabloid format, does it?) But does accountability have a threshold?
If you were the victim of a serious or violent crime in Cork around time when all this was first publicised, and depending on your local Gardaí for their support, sensitivity and professionalism, would you not lose faith upon reading that those people you were relying on were making alternative use of Garda assets to make porn, would your heart not sink and wonder who's hands you'd put yourself and your trauma into? If you were struggling with a decision to come forward and report a serious crime against you, perhaps a sexual assault, would knowing that a Garda in your area was making porn in his spare time give you the confidence to do so?
It's not always about how daft or misguided someone's actions may be... There's always a bigger picture.
No, not really.
As far as I know everyone can do what they like in their spare time as long it's not illegal. I can't see anything wrong with making a sex tape in your spare time. I've been there myself. So how could I hold that against anyone regardless of profession. Most of us are on here to have fun and sex with others, so how can I judge someone unprofessional for looking the same?
Taking a garda car without permission is a different story but the wrong doing in that has little to do with the sex act as such. Taking the police car without permission to go shopping would be equally wrong. "
But this isn't just a person. Nobody is talking about 'the man' Carla met and made her porn with. His actual identity as an individual has no bearing. As an individual he has as much right to use his free time to make a consensual sex tape as you or I. But, he didn't do it as an individual. He did it as a member of the Gardaí, using a Garda patrol car and items of Garda uniform. He brought the force into disrepute and damaged its credibility with those it is intended to serve. I'm sure given all that has happened and all he has lost he is seriously regretting what he did, and hope that he can make a new start. I doubt he thinks it was worth it. |
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By *reland8Man
over a year ago
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I don’t know all the details but I think all of our lives and careers/businesses would be affected if we did the same.
Maybe I’m wrong but did he (stupidity) think that the video would be private/or his face wouldn’t be shown?
Him being shown the door might b harsh but I don’t think it could have gone any other way!
Video being posted (if it was without his consent) is the real crime ! |
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"Are people really that outraged that he's losing his job? Should our public/civil servants not be held beyond reproach?
It's not like he didn't know he was being filmed or didn't know who she was. He wasn't tricked into anything or set up. He made a conscious decision to borrow a marked car and jacket for use in a porn clip. His mistake wasn't in being found out... His mistake was in doing it in the first place.
Am I being judgemental? Yes I am. Would I risk my livelihood for a quickie? Absolutely not. Do I hold him solely accountable? Absolutely not. Both parties were adults and knew what they were doing would bring our police force into disrepute. They did it anyway. I'm sure he's learned a valuable lesson over the past 2 years. From what others have said, he's lost more than his job. But it seems there are plenty more like him and they continue to put their jobs at risk, and the woman in question continues to be both complicit and mocks her detractors while enjoying her notoriety.
Surely there are way bigger scandals that bring the garda in disrepute than a piddly bonnet fuck: McCabe inquiry, phantom alcohol tests, 1000s of reported crimes not being prosecuted.... just to mention the most recent ones. This whole carla-garda incident is tabloid rubbish.
I agree... There are much larger issues, and the adventures of one amateur porn star are usually nothing more than cheap tabloid fodder (although... the Irish Times doesn't come in tabloid format, does it?) But does accountability have a threshold?
If you were the victim of a serious or violent crime in Cork around time when all this was first publicised, and depending on your local Gardaí for their support, sensitivity and professionalism, would you not lose faith upon reading that those people you were relying on were making alternative use of Garda assets to make porn, would your heart not sink and wonder who's hands you'd put yourself and your trauma into? If you were struggling with a decision to come forward and report a serious crime against you, perhaps a sexual assault, would knowing that a Garda in your area was making porn in his spare time give you the confidence to do so?
It's not always about how daft or misguided someone's actions may be... There's always a bigger picture. "
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"Are people really that outraged that he's losing his job? Should our public/civil servants not be held beyond reproach?
It's not like he didn't know he was being filmed or didn't know who she was. He wasn't tricked into anything or set up. He made a conscious decision to borrow a marked car and jacket for use in a porn clip. His mistake wasn't in being found out... His mistake was in doing it in the first place.
Am I being judgemental? Yes I am. Would I risk my livelihood for a quickie? Absolutely not. Do I hold him solely accountable? Absolutely not. Both parties were adults and knew what they were doing would bring our police force into disrepute. They did it anyway. I'm sure he's learned a valuable lesson over the past 2 years. From what others have said, he's lost more than his job. But it seems there are plenty more like him and they continue to put their jobs at risk, and the woman in question continues to be both complicit and mocks her detractors while enjoying her notoriety.
Surely there are way bigger scandals that bring the garda in disrepute than a piddly bonnet fuck: McCabe inquiry, phantom alcohol tests, 1000s of reported crimes not being prosecuted.... just to mention the most recent ones. This whole carla-garda incident is tabloid rubbish.
I agree... There are much larger issues, and the adventures of one amateur porn star are usually nothing more than cheap tabloid fodder (although... the Irish Times doesn't come in tabloid format, does it?) But does accountability have a threshold?
If you were the victim of a serious or violent crime in Cork around time when all this was first publicised, and depending on your local Gardaí for their support, sensitivity and professionalism, would you not lose faith upon reading that those people you were relying on were making alternative use of Garda assets to make porn, would your heart not sink and wonder who's hands you'd put yourself and your trauma into? If you were struggling with a decision to come forward and report a serious crime against you, perhaps a sexual assault, would knowing that a Garda in your area was making porn in his spare time give you the confidence to do so?
It's not always about how daft or misguided someone's actions may be... There's always a bigger picture.
No, not really.
As far as I know everyone can do what they like in their spare time as long it's not illegal. I can't see anything wrong with making a sex tape in your spare time. I've been there myself. So how could I hold that against anyone regardless of profession. Most of us are on here to have fun and sex with others, so how can I judge someone unprofessional for looking the same?
Taking a garda car without permission is a different story but the wrong doing in that has little to do with the sex act as such. Taking the police car without permission to go shopping would be equally wrong.
But this isn't just a person. Nobody is talking about 'the man' Carla met and made her porn with. His actual identity as an individual has no bearing. As an individual he has as much right to use his free time to make a consensual sex tape as you or I. But, he didn't do it as an individual. He did it as a member of the Gardaí, using a Garda patrol car and items of Garda uniform. He brought the force into disrepute and damaged its credibility with those it is intended to serve. I'm sure given all that has happened and all he has lost he is seriously regretting what he did, and hope that he can make a new start. I doubt he thinks it was worth it. "
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"Are people really that outraged that he's losing his job? Should our public/civil servants not be held beyond reproach?
It's not like he didn't know he was being filmed or didn't know who she was. He wasn't tricked into anything or set up. He made a conscious decision to borrow a marked car and jacket for use in a porn clip. His mistake wasn't in being found out... His mistake was in doing it in the first place.
Am I being judgemental? Yes I am. Would I risk my livelihood for a quickie? Absolutely not. Do I hold him solely accountable? Absolutely not. Both parties were adults and knew what they were doing would bring our police force into disrepute. They did it anyway. I'm sure he's learned a valuable lesson over the past 2 years. From what others have said, he's lost more than his job. But it seems there are plenty more like him and they continue to put their jobs at risk, and the woman in question continues to be both complicit and mocks her detractors while enjoying her notoriety.
Surely there are way bigger scandals that bring the garda in disrepute than a piddly bonnet fuck: McCabe inquiry, phantom alcohol tests, 1000s of reported crimes not being prosecuted.... just to mention the most recent ones. This whole carla-garda incident is tabloid rubbish.
I agree... There are much larger issues, and the adventures of one amateur porn star are usually nothing more than cheap tabloid fodder (although... the Irish Times doesn't come in tabloid format, does it?) But does accountability have a threshold?
If you were the victim of a serious or violent crime in Cork around time when all this was first publicised, and depending on your local Gardaí for their support, sensitivity and professionalism, would you not lose faith upon reading that those people you were relying on were making alternative use of Garda assets to make porn, would your heart not sink and wonder who's hands you'd put yourself and your trauma into? If you were struggling with a decision to come forward and report a serious crime against you, perhaps a sexual assault, would knowing that a Garda in your area was making porn in his spare time give you the confidence to do so?
It's not always about how daft or misguided someone's actions may be... There's always a bigger picture.
No, not really.
As far as I know everyone can do what they like in their spare time as long it's not illegal. I can't see anything wrong with making a sex tape in your spare time. I've been there myself. So how could I hold that against anyone regardless of profession. Most of us are on here to have fun and sex with others, so how can I judge someone unprofessional for looking the same?
Taking a garda car without permission is a different story but the wrong doing in that has little to do with the sex act as such. Taking the police car without permission to go shopping would be equally wrong.
But this isn't just a person. Nobody is talking about 'the man' Carla met and made her porn with. His actual identity as an individual has no bearing. As an individual he has as much right to use his free time to make a consensual sex tape as you or I. But, he didn't do it as an individual. He did it as a member of the Gardaí, using a Garda patrol car and items of Garda uniform. He brought the force into disrepute and damaged its credibility with those it is intended to serve. I'm sure given all that has happened and all he has lost he is seriously regretting what he did, and hope that he can make a new start. I doubt he thinks it was worth it. "
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If love to hear him explain how he thought this would go. I'm inclined to think he's an idiot if he thought he could allow himself to be identified in his Garda uniform shagging a woman on top of a Garda car. If he thought he'd get away with a small fine then I'd call his judgement into question and suggest that he's not suitable for the job.
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Taking a garda car without permission is a different story but the wrong doing in that has little to do with the sex act as such. Taking the police car without permission to go shopping would be equally wrong.
But this isn't just a person. Nobody is talking about 'the man' Carla met and made her porn with. His actual identity as an individual has no bearing. As an individual he has as much right to use his free time to make a consensual sex tape as you or I. But, he didn't do it as an individual. He did it as a member of the Gardaí, using a Garda patrol car and items of Garda uniform. He brought the force into disrepute and damaged its credibility with those it is intended to serve. I'm sure given all that has happened and all he has lost he is seriously regretting what he did, and hope that he can make a new start. I doubt he thinks it was worth it.
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Taking a garda car without permission is a different story but the wrong doing in that has little to do with the sex act as such. Taking the police car without permission to go shopping would be equally wrong.
But this isn't just a person. Nobody is talking about 'the man' Carla met and made her porn with. His actual identity as an individual has no bearing. As an individual he has as much right to use his free time to make a consensual sex tape as you or I. But, he didn't do it as an individual. He did it as a member of the Gardaí, using a Garda patrol car and items of Garda uniform. He brought the force into disrepute and damaged its credibility with those it is intended to serve. I'm sure given all that has happened and all he has lost he is seriously regretting what he did, and hope that he can make a new start. I doubt he thinks it was worth it.
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By *oghunter33Woman
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"Are people really that outraged that he's losing his job? Should our public/civil servants not be held beyond reproach?
It's not like he didn't know he was being filmed or didn't know who she was. He wasn't tricked into anything or set up. He made a conscious decision to borrow a marked car and jacket for use in a porn clip. His mistake wasn't in being found out... His mistake was in doing it in the first place.
Am I being judgemental? Yes I am. Would I risk my livelihood for a quickie? Absolutely not. Do I hold him solely accountable? Absolutely not. Both parties were adults and knew what they were doing would bring our police force into disrepute. They did it anyway. I'm sure he's learned a valuable lesson over the past 2 years. From what others have said, he's lost more than his job. But it seems there are plenty more like him and they continue to put their jobs at risk, and the woman in question continues to be both complicit and mocks her detractors while enjoying her notoriety.
Surely there are way bigger scandals that bring the garda in disrepute than a piddly bonnet fuck: McCabe inquiry, phantom alcohol tests, 1000s of reported crimes not being prosecuted.... just to mention the most recent ones. This whole carla-garda incident is tabloid rubbish.
I agree... There are much larger issues, and the adventures of one amateur porn star are usually nothing more than cheap tabloid fodder (although... the Irish Times doesn't come in tabloid format, does it?) But does accountability have a threshold?
If you were the victim of a serious or violent crime in Cork around time when all this was first publicised, and depending on your local Gardaí for their support, sensitivity and professionalism, would you not lose faith upon reading that those people you were relying on were making alternative use of Garda assets to make porn, would your heart not sink and wonder who's hands you'd put yourself and your trauma into? If you were struggling with a decision to come forward and report a serious crime against you, perhaps a sexual assault, would knowing that a Garda in your area was making porn in his spare time give you the confidence to do so?
It's not always about how daft or misguided someone's actions may be... There's always a bigger picture.
No, not really.
As far as I know everyone can do what they like in their spare time as long it's not illegal. I can't see anything wrong with making a sex tape in your spare time. I've been there myself. So how could I hold that against anyone regardless of profession. Most of us are on here to have fun and sex with others, so how can I judge someone unprofessional for looking the same?
Taking a garda car without permission is a different story but the wrong doing in that has little to do with the sex act as such. Taking the police car without permission to go shopping would be equally wrong.
But this isn't just a person. Nobody is talking about 'the man' Carla met and made her porn with. His actual identity as an individual has no bearing. As an individual he has as much right to use his free time to make a consensual sex tape as you or I. But, he didn't do it as an individual. He did it as a member of the Gardaí, using a Garda patrol car and items of Garda uniform. He brought the force into disrepute and damaged its credibility with those it is intended to serve. I'm sure given all that has happened and all he has lost he is seriously regretting what he did, and hope that he can make a new start. I doubt he thinks it was worth it. "
I feel like running in circles. Seriously I've heard nobody discussing the reputation and credibility of the Garda after this incident. But I've heard questioning the same over proper scandals such as phantom breathalysing.
I understand that with uniform and squad car he represents the garda but then again I'm sure most can see that this was a slip of an individual and not the whole garda corps. Surely i'm not thinking of a porn crew every time I come across a garda car. |
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"Are people really that outraged that he's losing his job? Should our public/civil servants not be held beyond reproach?
It's not like he didn't know he was being filmed or didn't know who she was. He wasn't tricked into anything or set up. He made a conscious decision to borrow a marked car and jacket for use in a porn clip. His mistake wasn't in being found out... His mistake was in doing it in the first place.
Am I being judgemental? Yes I am. Would I risk my livelihood for a quickie? Absolutely not. Do I hold him solely accountable? Absolutely not. Both parties were adults and knew what they were doing would bring our police force into disrepute. They did it anyway. I'm sure he's learned a valuable lesson over the past 2 years. From what others have said, he's lost more than his job. But it seems there are plenty more like him and they continue to put their jobs at risk, and the woman in question continues to be both complicit and mocks her detractors while enjoying her notoriety.
Surely there are way bigger scandals that bring the garda in disrepute than a piddly bonnet fuck: McCabe inquiry, phantom alcohol tests, 1000s of reported crimes not being prosecuted.... just to mention the most recent ones. This whole carla-garda incident is tabloid rubbish.
I agree... There are much larger issues, and the adventures of one amateur porn star are usually nothing more than cheap tabloid fodder (although... the Irish Times doesn't come in tabloid format, does it?) But does accountability have a threshold?
If you were the victim of a serious or violent crime in Cork around time when all this was first publicised, and depending on your local Gardaí for their support, sensitivity and professionalism, would you not lose faith upon reading that those people you were relying on were making alternative use of Garda assets to make porn, would your heart not sink and wonder who's hands you'd put yourself and your trauma into? If you were struggling with a decision to come forward and report a serious crime against you, perhaps a sexual assault, would knowing that a Garda in your area was making porn in his spare time give you the confidence to do so?
It's not always about how daft or misguided someone's actions may be... There's always a bigger picture.
No, not really.
As far as I know everyone can do what they like in their spare time as long it's not illegal. I can't see anything wrong with making a sex tape in your spare time. I've been there myself. So how could I hold that against anyone regardless of profession. Most of us are on here to have fun and sex with others, so how can I judge someone unprofessional for looking the same?
Taking a garda car without permission is a different story but the wrong doing in that has little to do with the sex act as such. Taking the police car without permission to go shopping would be equally wrong.
But this isn't just a person. Nobody is talking about 'the man' Carla met and made her porn with. His actual identity as an individual has no bearing. As an individual he has as much right to use his free time to make a consensual sex tape as you or I. But, he didn't do it as an individual. He did it as a member of the Gardaí, using a Garda patrol car and items of Garda uniform. He brought the force into disrepute and damaged its credibility with those it is intended to serve. I'm sure given all that has happened and all he has lost he is seriously regretting what he did, and hope that he can make a new start. I doubt he thinks it was worth it.
I feel like running in circles. Seriously I've heard nobody discussing the reputation and credibility of the Garda after this incident. But I've heard questioning the same over proper scandals such as phantom breathalysing.
I understand that with uniform and squad car he represents the garda but then again I'm sure most can see that this was a slip of an individual and not the whole garda corps. Surely i'm not thinking of a porn crew every time I come across a garda car."
I think that if a lighter touch was applied mammy people would be saying it is typical of the Gardaí, "sure they can do what they want etc". I think if this happened in his own home or even with a woman he was having a relationship with your point would stand but I don't see how this case could end differently.
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"Are people really that outraged that he's losing his job? Should our public/civil servants not be held beyond reproach?
It's not like he didn't know he was being filmed or didn't know who she was. He wasn't tricked into anything or set up. He made a conscious decision to borrow a marked car and jacket for use in a porn clip. His mistake wasn't in being found out... His mistake was in doing it in the first place.
Am I being judgemental? Yes I am. Would I risk my livelihood for a quickie? Absolutely not. Do I hold him solely accountable? Absolutely not. Both parties were adults and knew what they were doing would bring our police force into disrepute. They did it anyway. I'm sure he's learned a valuable lesson over the past 2 years. From what others have said, he's lost more than his job. But it seems there are plenty more like him and they continue to put their jobs at risk, and the woman in question continues to be both complicit and mocks her detractors while enjoying her notoriety.
Surely there are way bigger scandals that bring the garda in disrepute than a piddly bonnet fuck: McCabe inquiry, phantom alcohol tests, 1000s of reported crimes not being prosecuted.... just to mention the most recent ones. This whole carla-garda incident is tabloid rubbish.
I agree... There are much larger issues, and the adventures of one amateur porn star are usually nothing more than cheap tabloid fodder (although... the Irish Times doesn't come in tabloid format, does it?) But does accountability have a threshold?
If you were the victim of a serious or violent crime in Cork around time when all this was first publicised, and depending on your local Gardaí for their support, sensitivity and professionalism, would you not lose faith upon reading that those people you were relying on were making alternative use of Garda assets to make porn, would your heart not sink and wonder who's hands you'd put yourself and your trauma into? If you were struggling with a decision to come forward and report a serious crime against you, perhaps a sexual assault, would knowing that a Garda in your area was making porn in his spare time give you the confidence to do so?
It's not always about how daft or misguided someone's actions may be... There's always a bigger picture.
No, not really.
As far as I know everyone can do what they like in their spare time as long it's not illegal. I can't see anything wrong with making a sex tape in your spare time. I've been there myself. So how could I hold that against anyone regardless of profession. Most of us are on here to have fun and sex with others, so how can I judge someone unprofessional for looking the same?
Taking a garda car without permission is a different story but the wrong doing in that has little to do with the sex act as such. Taking the police car without permission to go shopping would be equally wrong.
But this isn't just a person. Nobody is talking about 'the man' Carla met and made her porn with. His actual identity as an individual has no bearing. As an individual he has as much right to use his free time to make a consensual sex tape as you or I. But, he didn't do it as an individual. He did it as a member of the Gardaí, using a Garda patrol car and items of Garda uniform. He brought the force into disrepute and damaged its credibility with those it is intended to serve. I'm sure given all that has happened and all he has lost he is seriously regretting what he did, and hope that he can make a new start. I doubt he thinks it was worth it.
I feel like running in circles. Seriously I've heard nobody discussing the reputation and credibility of the Garda after this incident. But I've heard questioning the same over proper scandals such as phantom breathalysing.
I understand that with uniform and squad car he represents the garda but then again I'm sure most can see that this was a slip of an individual and not the whole garda corps. Surely i'm not thinking of a porn crew every time I come across a garda car.
I think that if a lighter touch was applied mammy people would be saying it is typical of the Gardaí, "sure they can do what they want etc". I think if this happened in his own home or even with a woman he was having a relationship with your point would stand but I don't see how this case could end differently.
PS Next time you come across a Garda car you should probably wipe it off "
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over a year ago
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"I am a little shocked that an actual civil servant could get sacked."
He is a public servant. There are less than 25k civil servants in the country but approx 200k public servants. Little known fact ! |
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"Are people really that outraged that he's losing his job? Should our public/civil servants not be held beyond reproach?
It's not like he didn't know he was being filmed or didn't know who she was. He wasn't tricked into anything or set up. He made a conscious decision to borrow a marked car and jacket for use in a porn clip. His mistake wasn't in being found out... His mistake was in doing it in the first place.
Am I being judgemental? Yes I am. Would I risk my livelihood for a quickie? Absolutely not. Do I hold him solely accountable? Absolutely not. Both parties were adults and knew what they were doing would bring our police force into disrepute. They did it anyway. I'm sure he's learned a valuable lesson over the past 2 years. From what others have said, he's lost more than his job. But it seems there are plenty more like him and they continue to put their jobs at risk, and the woman in question continues to be both complicit and mocks her detractors while enjoying her notoriety.
Surely there are way bigger scandals that bring the garda in disrepute than a piddly bonnet fuck: McCabe inquiry, phantom alcohol tests, 1000s of reported crimes not being prosecuted.... just to mention the most recent ones. This whole carla-garda incident is tabloid rubbish.
I agree... There are much larger issues, and the adventures of one amateur porn star are usually nothing more than cheap tabloid fodder (although... the Irish Times doesn't come in tabloid format, does it?) But does accountability have a threshold?
If you were the victim of a serious or violent crime in Cork around time when all this was first publicised, and depending on your local Gardaí for their support, sensitivity and professionalism, would you not lose faith upon reading that those people you were relying on were making alternative use of Garda assets to make porn, would your heart not sink and wonder who's hands you'd put yourself and your trauma into? If you were struggling with a decision to come forward and report a serious crime against you, perhaps a sexual assault, would knowing that a Garda in your area was making porn in his spare time give you the confidence to do so?
It's not always about how daft or misguided someone's actions may be... There's always a bigger picture.
No, not really.
As far as I know everyone can do what they like in their spare time as long it's not illegal. I can't see anything wrong with making a sex tape in your spare time. I've been there myself. So how could I hold that against anyone regardless of profession. Most of us are on here to have fun and sex with others, so how can I judge someone unprofessional for looking the same?
Taking a garda car without permission is a different story but the wrong doing in that has little to do with the sex act as such. Taking the police car without permission to go shopping would be equally wrong.
But this isn't just a person. Nobody is talking about 'the man' Carla met and made her porn with. His actual identity as an individual has no bearing. As an individual he has as much right to use his free time to make a consensual sex tape as you or I. But, he didn't do it as an individual. He did it as a member of the Gardaí, using a Garda patrol car and items of Garda uniform. He brought the force into disrepute and damaged its credibility with those it is intended to serve. I'm sure given all that has happened and all he has lost he is seriously regretting what he did, and hope that he can make a new start. I doubt he thinks it was worth it.
I feel like running in circles. Seriously I've heard nobody discussing the reputation and credibility of the Garda after this incident. But I've heard questioning the same over proper scandals such as phantom breathalysing.
I understand that with uniform and squad car he represents the garda but then again I'm sure most can see that this was a slip of an individual and not the whole garda corps. Surely i'm not thinking of a porn crew every time I come across a garda car.
I think that if a lighter touch was applied mammy people would be saying it is typical of the Gardaí, "sure they can do what they want etc". I think if this happened in his own home or even with a woman he was having a relationship with your point would stand but I don't see how this case could end differently.
PS Next time you come across a Garda car you should probably wipe it off
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"Are people really that outraged that he's losing his job? Should our public/civil servants not be held beyond reproach?
It's not like he didn't know he was being filmed or didn't know who she was. He wasn't tricked into anything or set up. He made a conscious decision to borrow a marked car and jacket for use in a porn clip. His mistake wasn't in being found out... His mistake was in doing it in the first place.
Am I being judgemental? Yes I am. Would I risk my livelihood for a quickie? Absolutely not. Do I hold him solely accountable? Absolutely not. Both parties were adults and knew what they were doing would bring our police force into disrepute. They did it anyway. I'm sure he's learned a valuable lesson over the past 2 years. From what others have said, he's lost more than his job. But it seems there are plenty more like him and they continue to put their jobs at risk, and the woman in question continues to be both complicit and mocks her detractors while enjoying her notoriety.
Surely there are way bigger scandals that bring the garda in disrepute than a piddly bonnet fuck: McCabe inquiry, phantom alcohol tests, 1000s of reported crimes not being prosecuted.... just to mention the most recent ones. This whole carla-garda incident is tabloid rubbish.
I agree... There are much larger issues, and the adventures of one amateur porn star are usually nothing more than cheap tabloid fodder (although... the Irish Times doesn't come in tabloid format, does it?) But does accountability have a threshold?
If you were the victim of a serious or violent crime in Cork around time when all this was first publicised, and depending on your local Gardaí for their support, sensitivity and professionalism, would you not lose faith upon reading that those people you were relying on were making alternative use of Garda assets to make porn, would your heart not sink and wonder who's hands you'd put yourself and your trauma into? If you were struggling with a decision to come forward and report a serious crime against you, perhaps a sexual assault, would knowing that a Garda in your area was making porn in his spare time give you the confidence to do so?
It's not always about how daft or misguided someone's actions may be... There's always a bigger picture.
No, not really.
As far as I know everyone can do what they like in their spare time as long it's not illegal. I can't see anything wrong with making a sex tape in your spare time. I've been there myself. So how could I hold that against anyone regardless of profession. Most of us are on here to have fun and sex with others, so how can I judge someone unprofessional for looking the same?
Taking a garda car without permission is a different story but the wrong doing in that has little to do with the sex act as such. Taking the police car without permission to go shopping would be equally wrong.
But this isn't just a person. Nobody is talking about 'the man' Carla met and made her porn with. His actual identity as an individual has no bearing. As an individual he has as much right to use his free time to make a consensual sex tape as you or I. But, he didn't do it as an individual. He did it as a member of the Gardaí, using a Garda patrol car and items of Garda uniform. He brought the force into disrepute and damaged its credibility with those it is intended to serve. I'm sure given all that has happened and all he has lost he is seriously regretting what he did, and hope that he can make a new start. I doubt he thinks it was worth it.
I feel like running in circles. Seriously I've heard nobody discussing the reputation and credibility of the Garda after this incident. But I've heard questioning the same over proper scandals such as phantom breathalysing.
I understand that with uniform and squad car he represents the garda but then again I'm sure most can see that this was a slip of an individual and not the whole garda corps. Surely i'm not thinking of a porn crew every time I come across a garda car.
I think that if a lighter touch was applied mammy people would be saying it is typical of the Gardaí, "sure they can do what they want etc". I think if this happened in his own home or even with a woman he was having a relationship with your point would stand but I don't see how this case could end differently.
PS Next time you come across a Garda car you should probably wipe it off "
Actually Mick a lighter tou h was originally applied, suspended and fined but the new commissioner Drew Harris decided the incident eeded to be reviewed and now the guy is facing further sanctions |
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"Are people really that outraged that he's losing his job? Should our public/civil servants not be held beyond reproach?
It's not like he didn't know he was being filmed or didn't know who she was. He wasn't tricked into anything or set up. He made a conscious decision to borrow a marked car and jacket for use in a porn clip. His mistake wasn't in being found out... His mistake was in doing it in the first place.
Am I being judgemental? Yes I am. Would I risk my livelihood for a quickie? Absolutely not. Do I hold him solely accountable? Absolutely not. Both parties were adults and knew what they were doing would bring our police force into disrepute. They did it anyway. I'm sure he's learned a valuable lesson over the past 2 years. From what others have said, he's lost more than his job. But it seems there are plenty more like him and they continue to put their jobs at risk, and the woman in question continues to be both complicit and mocks her detractors while enjoying her notoriety.
Surely there are way bigger scandals that bring the garda in disrepute than a piddly bonnet fuck: McCabe inquiry, phantom alcohol tests, 1000s of reported crimes not being prosecuted.... just to mention the most recent ones. This whole carla-garda incident is tabloid rubbish.
I agree... There are much larger issues, and the adventures of one amateur porn star are usually nothing more than cheap tabloid fodder (although... the Irish Times doesn't come in tabloid format, does it?) But does accountability have a threshold?
If you were the victim of a serious or violent crime in Cork around time when all this was first publicised, and depending on your local Gardaí for their support, sensitivity and professionalism, would you not lose faith upon reading that those people you were relying on were making alternative use of Garda assets to make porn, would your heart not sink and wonder who's hands you'd put yourself and your trauma into? If you were struggling with a decision to come forward and report a serious crime against you, perhaps a sexual assault, would knowing that a Garda in your area was making porn in his spare time give you the confidence to do so?
It's not always about how daft or misguided someone's actions may be... There's always a bigger picture.
No, not really.
As far as I know everyone can do what they like in their spare time as long it's not illegal. I can't see anything wrong with making a sex tape in your spare time. I've been there myself. So how could I hold that against anyone regardless of profession. Most of us are on here to have fun and sex with others, so how can I judge someone unprofessional for looking the same?
Taking a garda car without permission is a different story but the wrong doing in that has little to do with the sex act as such. Taking the police car without permission to go shopping would be equally wrong.
But this isn't just a person. Nobody is talking about 'the man' Carla met and made her porn with. His actual identity as an individual has no bearing. As an individual he has as much right to use his free time to make a consensual sex tape as you or I. But, he didn't do it as an individual. He did it as a member of the Gardaí, using a Garda patrol car and items of Garda uniform. He brought the force into disrepute and damaged its credibility with those it is intended to serve. I'm sure given all that has happened and all he has lost he is seriously regretting what he did, and hope that he can make a new start. I doubt he thinks it was worth it.
I feel like running in circles. Seriously I've heard nobody discussing the reputation and credibility of the Garda after this incident. But I've heard questioning the same over proper scandals such as phantom breathalysing.
I understand that with uniform and squad car he represents the garda but then again I'm sure most can see that this was a slip of an individual and not the whole garda corps. Surely i'm not thinking of a porn crew every time I come across a garda car.
I think that if a lighter touch was applied mammy people would be saying it is typical of the Gardaí, "sure they can do what they want etc". I think if this happened in his own home or even with a woman he was having a relationship with your point would stand but I don't see how this case could end differently.
PS Next time you come across a Garda car you should probably wipe it off
Actually Mick a lighter tou h was originally applied, suspended and fined but the new commissioner Drew Harris decided the incident eeded to be reviewed and now the guy is facing further sanctions "
I saw that yesterday alright. They really need to do something to start winning back the respect they used to have. Maybe this is a small start? It's going to be a tough job though. |
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Look I’m sure we have done things that’s weren’t allowed but the difference is we don’t upload our videos to porn sites? Did he think maybe it was just a fantasy and she would keep the footage for her own pleasure? |
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"Are people really that outraged that he's losing his job? Should our public/civil servants not be held beyond reproach?
It's not like he didn't know he was being filmed or didn't know who she was. He wasn't tricked into anything or set up. He made a conscious decision to borrow a marked car and jacket for use in a porn clip. His mistake wasn't in being found out... His mistake was in doing it in the first place.
Am I being judgemental? Yes I am. Would I risk my livelihood for a quickie? Absolutely not. Do I hold him solely accountable? Absolutely not. Both parties were adults and knew what they were doing would bring our police force into disrepute. They did it anyway. I'm sure he's learned a valuable lesson over the past 2 years. From what others have said, he's lost more than his job. But it seems there are plenty more like him and they continue to put their jobs at risk, and the woman in question continues to be both complicit and mocks her detractors while enjoying her notoriety.
Surely there are way bigger scandals that bring the garda in disrepute than a piddly bonnet fuck: McCabe inquiry, phantom alcohol tests, 1000s of reported crimes not being prosecuted.... just to mention the most recent ones. This whole carla-garda incident is tabloid rubbish.
I agree... There are much larger issues, and the adventures of one amateur porn star are usually nothing more than cheap tabloid fodder (although... the Irish Times doesn't come in tabloid format, does it?) But does accountability have a threshold?
If you were the victim of a serious or violent crime in Cork around time when all this was first publicised, and depending on your local Gardaí for their support, sensitivity and professionalism, would you not lose faith upon reading that those people you were relying on were making alternative use of Garda assets to make porn, would your heart not sink and wonder who's hands you'd put yourself and your trauma into? If you were struggling with a decision to come forward and report a serious crime against you, perhaps a sexual assault, would knowing that a Garda in your area was making porn in his spare time give you the confidence to do so?
It's not always about how daft or misguided someone's actions may be... There's always a bigger picture.
No, not really.
As far as I know everyone can do what they like in their spare time as long it's not illegal. I can't see anything wrong with making a sex tape in your spare time. I've been there myself. So how could I hold that against anyone regardless of profession. Most of us are on here to have fun and sex with others, so how can I judge someone unprofessional for looking the same?
Taking a garda car without permission is a different story but the wrong doing in that has little to do with the sex act as such. Taking the police car without permission to go shopping would be equally wrong.
But this isn't just a person. Nobody is talking about 'the man' Carla met and made her porn with. His actual identity as an individual has no bearing. As an individual he has as much right to use his free time to make a consensual sex tape as you or I. But, he didn't do it as an individual. He did it as a member of the Gardaí, using a Garda patrol car and items of Garda uniform. He brought the force into disrepute and damaged its credibility with those it is intended to serve. I'm sure given all that has happened and all he has lost he is seriously regretting what he did, and hope that he can make a new start. I doubt he thinks it was worth it.
I feel like running in circles. Seriously I've heard nobody discussing the reputation and credibility of the Garda after this incident. But I've heard questioning the same over proper scandals such as phantom breathalysing.
I understand that with uniform and squad car he represents the garda but then again I'm sure most can see that this was a slip of an individual and not the whole garda corps. Surely i'm not thinking of a porn crew every time I come across a garda car."
But it's not the slip of one individual is it? It's just one example. According to interviews given this time last year there were 36 Gardaí involved in different instances. Defense forces personnel also. According to her own feed on social media today it's ongoing.
It's unlikely that anyone going about their daily business is wondering if someone is getting a bj every time they see a parked Garda car. Most of us (thankfully) have little or no dealings with Gardaí other than getting the occasional form stamped and probably rarely even give them a thought. Thinking about it, I take them for granted mostly, as I unwittingly do many other people in civil service jobs. But... If I put myself in the shoes of someone who does need their help, who is going through a difficult time, I can certainly empathise at how disheartening it may be to see members of the force bring it into disrepute. Its probably equally disheartening for other members of the force who do take pride in their job and their uniform to have people look at them and wonder if they're one of the ones who featured in these porn clips, to even have taunts slung at them by some, or to have their child come home from school asking who Carla is because some schoolyard bully has said something nasty. When something like this is brought into the public eye, the effects are far-reaching, even if they don't directly affect me. |
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"On a side note....
Since there was a Garda car involved in this ‘activity’ wouldn’t that be classed as Porking?
(Asking for a friend)
Would an mmf with two male Gardaí be a "bacon sandwich"? "
I’d just like to add that no farm animals were harmed in any way!
It was all fully consensual |
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"On a side note....
Since there was a Garda car involved in this ‘activity’ wouldn’t that be classed as Porking?
(Asking for a friend)
Would an mmf with two male Gardaí be a "bacon sandwich"?
I’d just like to add that no farm animals were harmed in any way!
It was all fully consensual "
...with more emphasis on the sensual rather than the con  |
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What this means is, that going after carla or others in the future who upload the videos is important to them.
They want to be able to call a cop it happens to in the future into a room and say "Did you know she was filming it and may upload it". If they answer "Yes" then they know they will be sacked, if they asnwer "No" they can go after the uploader, and bring them up in court.
Saying that - I had to wear a uniform and it wasn't in Ireland but it was made clear that behaviour in the uniform would get us sacked. They even go so far as to tell you not to end up at a political burial in uniform without permission or be seen talking in free time with a politician in uniform. etc etc |
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"What this means is, that going after carla or others in the future who upload the videos is important to them.
They want to be able to call a cop it happens to in the future into a room and say "Did you know she was filming it and may upload it". If they answer "Yes" then they know they will be sacked, if they asnwer "No" they can go after the uploader, and bring them up in court.
Saying that - I had to wear a uniform and it wasn't in Ireland but it was made clear that behaviour in the uniform would get us sacked. They even go so far as to tell you not to end up at a political burial in uniform without permission or be seen talking in free time with a politician in uniform. etc etc "
I'm inclined to agree. I think making an example of this particular individual will serve to set a precedent and may even result in other instances being reviewed. It's a warning shot (albeit one that has hit a target). |
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Uniform, use of state vehicle relating to his job.
I'm surprised it didn't happen earlier to be honest and that's not judging. That's an opinion based up the type of work and what/who it represents. Makes no odds what the judge is like or not. Stackable offence no question, and yes maybe to be a further deterrent. Isn't that what a punishment is about too? Loss of job sure he'll now make it in the porn industry. |
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"I'm inclined to agree. I think making an example of this particular individual will serve to set a precedent and may even result in other instances being reviewed. It's a warning shot (albeit one that has hit a target). "
From my understanding the cops had trouble getting the videos taken down because the consent of the men was called into question. They also failed to fully co-operate due to being married and stuff.
That means that this can happen, the videos can be uploaded, and remain online forever.
I think the only way you should avoid being sacked is if you go in, fully co-operate, tell them you didnt know it was being filmed, didnt know it was to be uploaded, that you will make the take-down requests, and will co-operate with any legal case against the uploader.
I think thats how most cops will read the action being taken. |
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"All those fantasies about men in uniforms just got blown out of the water.
And I'd hate to be on trial for a crime if some of ye were on the jury  "
Sure you can go ahead and fuck in uniform just don't post it on the Internet |
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"All those fantasies about men in uniforms just got blown out of the water.
And I'd hate to be on trial for a crime if some of ye were on the jury
Sure you can go ahead and fuck in uniform just don't post it on the Internet "
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"All those fantasies about men in uniforms just got blown out of the water.
And I'd hate to be on trial for a crime if some of ye were on the jury
Sure you can go ahead and fuck in uniform just don't post it on the Internet
Exactly "
Sometimes a bit of tact and common sense is called for |
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"Ye are missing my point but please allow me to simplify it.
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone ."
Ok, let's do away with law and order entirely then.
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"Ye are missing my point but please allow me to simplify it.
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone .
Ok, let's do away with law and order entirely then.
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I didn't say anything about law and order, this guy indulged in a fantasy and got caught, simple.
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Just from reading this thread I'm getting the impression that a lot of people don't like guards or civil servants, some don't even like men !
He's human and no different to the rest of us, we all fuck up every now and then.
I just don't see why he should be made an example of. |
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"Just from reading this thread I'm getting the impression that a lot of people don't like guards or civil servants, some don't even like men !
He's human and no different to the rest of us, we all fuck up every now and then.
I just don't see why he should be made an example of."
There are some jobs where fucking up loses you your job. These include pilot, air traffic controller, truck driver, garda, etc |
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"Just from reading this thread I'm getting the impression that a lot of people don't like guards or civil servants, some don't even like men !
He's human and no different to the rest of us, we all fuck up every now and then.
I just don't see why he should be made an example of."
Sorry, but IMO people in the forces should expect to be held to a higher standard, he showed disrespect for his profession, his colleagues, and a massive lack of judgement that shows him unfit to serve as a Garda. And as plenty have pointed out, even private sector workers could expect to be sacked for misuse of a company vehicle.
As adults, we understand that actions have consequences. |
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"Just from reading this thread I'm getting the impression that a lot of people don't like guards or civil servants, some don't even like men !
He's human and no different to the rest of us, we all fuck up every now and then.
I just don't see why he should be made an example of.
There are some jobs where fucking up loses you your job. These include pilot, air traffic controller, truck driver, garda, etc"
A truck driver??? Why |
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"Just from reading this thread I'm getting the impression that a lot of people don't like guards or civil servants, some don't even like men !
He's human and no different to the rest of us, we all fuck up every now and then.
I just don't see why he should be made an example of.
There are some jobs where fucking up loses you your job. These include pilot, air traffic controller, truck driver, garda, etc
A truck driver??? Why "
Sure they come with there own bed how handy is that lol |
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"Just from reading this thread I'm getting the impression that a lot of people don't like guards or civil servants, some don't even like men !
He's human and no different to the rest of us, we all fuck up every now and then.
I just don't see why he should be made an example of."
Paddy for a minute lets assume that you are a chef.
One evening after work you get the chance to shag someone in the kitchen that you work in. Its recorded and you are aware of that. When you got the job you signed some sort of contract that covers the usual blah about representation of the company etc etc
Weeks later its brought to the attention of your boss and he gives you the red card!
Fair or unfair? |
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"I often fuck in my uniform . Not my choice but the women find it a real turn on so ask for it
Spaceman? That would be cool
Swim instructor, not so much "
I spent some quality time with a female swimming instructor a few years back. She normally wore a swimsuit under sports shorts for the lessons. We met up once as she was returning from classes. She was running late so she pulled her dress on over her swimsuit. I found it quite a turn on tbh
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"Just from reading this thread I'm getting the impression that a lot of people don't like guards or civil servants, some don't even like men !
He's human and no different to the rest of us, we all fuck up every now and then.
I just don't see why he should be made an example of.
There are some jobs where fucking up loses you your job. These include pilot, air traffic controller, truck driver, garda, etc
A truck driver??? Why "
A truck driver fucking up might be speeding, causing a collision, crashing, knocking someone down, etc. |
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"Just from reading this thread I'm getting the impression that a lot of people don't like guards or civil servants, some don't even like men !
He's human and no different to the rest of us, we all fuck up every now and then.
I just don't see why he should be made an example of."
He's being made an example of because he represented himself as a Garda. Not because he made a consensual video, or, shock/horror had sex, otherwise we would all be in trouble
People didn't look at that video and see a man, they looked at it and saw a Garda. That's the difference. |
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"Just from reading this thread I'm getting the impression that a lot of people don't like guards or civil servants, some don't even like men !
He's human and no different to the rest of us, we all fuck up every now and then.
I just don't see why he should be made an example of."
That's a load of crap. Loads of us especially me would actually be good friends with cards or have family members who are guards. He messed up simple and as pointed out in other posts. Any job would fire you if you brought your company into something like this with full uniform and clear picture if who he worked for in any job regardless of what it is. |
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"Just from reading this thread I'm getting the impression that a lot of people don't like guards or civil servants, some don't even like men !
He's human and no different to the rest of us, we all fuck up every now and then.
I just don't see why he should be made an example of.
Paddy for a minute lets assume that you are a chef.
One evening after work you get the chance to shag someone in the kitchen that you work in. Its recorded and you are aware of that. When you got the job you signed some sort of contract that covers the usual blah about representation of the company etc etc
Weeks later its brought to the attention of your boss and he gives you the red card!
Fair or unfair?"
Fair but this guy was punished and then they get a new boss and he decides to punish him again.
Fair or not fair? |
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"Some guards have done a way worse and this guy gets fired? "
So because other Gardaí didn't get disciplined appropriately then nobody should? That won't end well.
What have individual Gardaí done that was worse but didn't get punished harshly enough? |
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Hes an adult, He has to take responsibility for himself. Let it serve as a warning, id be deleting all videos and photos if it was me. Who knows who's gonna be next. Get rid of the i cloud too. It could be easily hacked. |
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What did anyone expect to happen to him ffs in uniform using the cop car making a video everything can be seen in it. As soon as she came around fab looking to meet cops & soldiers for videos you could tell it was going to end in tears for some poor fuka..
it’s a server case of the little head ruling the big head.... |
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over a year ago
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"What did anyone expect to happen to him ffs in uniform using the cop car making a video everything can be seen in it. As soon as she came around fab looking to meet cops & soldiers for videos you could tell it was going to end in tears for some poor fuka..
it’s a server case of the little head ruling the big head...."
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"What did anyone expect to happen to him ffs in uniform using the cop car making a video everything can be seen in it. As soon as she came around fab looking to meet cops & soldiers for videos you could tell it was going to end in tears for some poor fuka..
it’s a server case of the little head ruling the big head....nailed it "
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"What about action on the other party involved here. Doesn't it take two to tango.
What action can she be subjected to?
Indecent exposure? "
Lol yes sex in a public place is against the law, is it not? |
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"What about action on the other party involved here. Doesn't it take two to tango.
What action can she be subjected to?
Indecent exposure?
Lol yes sex in a public place is against the law, is it not? "
Sure is, but don't you have to be caught in the act?
I dunno by the way I'm asking out loud |
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"So are yous all saying (except Paddy36) that he deserves expulsion? I've to say I agree with Paddy, the minister is a dry shite. Of all places sure you think on fab you'd find some that see it what it is without judgment: two people having sex and fun. So f**ing what? Yes some mistakes involved but expulsion? Seriously? "
I disagree, these are the people that most sexual assault/rape victims turn to for help. Being so flippant with sex in a position of authority doesn’t instill a lot of confidence for victims. |
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"What about action on the other party involved here. Doesn't it take two to tango.
What action can she be subjected to?
Indecent exposure?
Lol yes sex in a public place is against the law, is it not? "
There is a thread running at the mlment with lots of public places mentioned should they all be prosocuted? |
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"What about action on the other party involved here. Doesn't it take two to tango.
What action can she be subjected to?
Indecent exposure?
Lol yes sex in a public place is against the law, is it not?
There is a thread running at the mlment with lots of public places mentioned should they all be prosocuted?"
I was warming up to that! |
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"What about action on the other party involved here. Doesn't it take two to tango.
What action can she be subjected to?
Indecent exposure?
Lol yes sex in a public place is against the law, is it not?
Sure is, but don't you have to be caught in the act?
I dunno by the way I'm asking out loud "
Is the video enough evidence. But yeah maybe your right. I don't know, i just think it's unfair that one be punished dearly and the other walks away. |
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"What about action on the other party involved here. Doesn't it take two to tango.
What action can she be subjected to?
Indecent exposure?
Lol yes sex in a public place is against the law, is it not?
There is a thread running at the mlment with lots of public places mentioned should they all be prosocuted?
I was warming up to that! "
Ya but you would probably of spelled prosecuted correctly
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"What about action on the other party involved here. Doesn't it take two to tango.
What action can she be subjected to?
Indecent exposure?
Lol yes sex in a public place is against the law, is it not?
There is a thread running at the mlment with lots of public places mentioned should they all be prosocuted?
I was warming up to that!
Ya but you would probably of spelled prosecuted correctly
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Prosecco? |
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"What about action on the other party involved here. Doesn't it take two to tango.
What action can she be subjected to?
Indecent exposure?
Lol yes sex in a public place is against the law, is it not?
There is a thread running at the mlment with lots of public places mentioned should they all be prosocuted?
I was warming up to that!
Ya but you would probably of spelled prosecuted correctly
Prosecco?"
Tis a bit early better make ot a mimosa |
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"What about action on the other party involved here. Doesn't it take two to tango.
What action can she be subjected to?
Indecent exposure?
Lol yes sex in a public place is against the law, is it not?
Sure is, but don't you have to be caught in the act?
I dunno by the way I'm asking out loud
Is the video enough evidence. But yeah maybe your right. I don't know, i just think it's unfair that one be punished dearly and the other walks away. "
He's the one bringing his profession into disrepute and taking a car without permission. Nobody forced him into it. |
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"What about action on the other party involved here. Doesn't it take two to tango.
What action can she be subjected to?
Indecent exposure?
Lol yes sex in a public place is against the law, is it not?
Sure is, but don't you have to be caught in the act?
I dunno by the way I'm asking out loud
Is the video enough evidence. But yeah maybe your right. I don't know, i just think it's unfair that one be punished dearly and the other walks away.
He's the one bringing his profession into disrepute and taking a car without permission. Nobody forced him into it. "
Of course that's not what I am saying here. He is getting what's coming to him yes and he does deserve what he gets of course. But the the party walks scot free, no charge whatsoever, gets to keep job etc. In my opinion it seems a little unfair is what i am saying. |
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"What about action on the other party involved here. Doesn't it take two to tango.
What action can she be subjected to?
Indecent exposure?
Lol yes sex in a public place is against the law, is it not?
Sure is, but don't you have to be caught in the act?
I dunno by the way I'm asking out loud
Is the video enough evidence "
That's an interesting question. Is posting a video of oneself commuting an offence or crime enough evidence? Does it depend on the seriousness of the crime? If someone posted a video of themselves committing murder they'd likely be investigated, but maybe not prosecuted if no other evidence was available. If someone posts a video of themselves driving dangerously, but nobody got hurt, is that evidence enough that an offence has been committed?
I'm not sure, as I don't know the details and anything I say is speculative, but I don't think either party is facing any criminal prosecution. His dismissal is based on his breach of employment conditions, not on the letter of the law. |
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"What about action on the other party involved here. Doesn't it take two to tango.
What action can she be subjected to?
Indecent exposure?
Lol yes sex in a public place is against the law, is it not?
Sure is, but don't you have to be caught in the act?
I dunno by the way I'm asking out loud
Is the video enough evidence. But yeah maybe your right. I don't know, i just think it's unfair that one be punished dearly and the other walks away.
He's the one bringing his profession into disrepute and taking a car without permission. Nobody forced him into it.
Of course that's not what I am saying here. He is getting what's coming to him yes and he does deserve what he gets of course. But the the party walks scot free, no charge whatsoever, gets to keep job etc. In my opinion it seems a little unfair is what i am saying. "
He had the position of greater responsibility and his actions were potentially damaging to his employer and colleagues . What damage did the other party bring to hers? |
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"What about action on the other party involved here. Doesn't it take two to tango.
What action can she be subjected to?
Indecent exposure?
Lol yes sex in a public place is against the law, is it not?
Sure is, but don't you have to be caught in the act?
I dunno by the way I'm asking out loud
Is the video enough evidence
That's an interesting question. Is posting a video of oneself commuting an offence or crime enough evidence? Does it depend on the seriousness of the crime? If someone posted a video of themselves committing murder they'd likely be investigated, but maybe not prosecuted if no other evidence was available. If someone posts a video of themselves driving dangerously, but nobody got hurt, is that evidence enough that an offence has been committed?
I'm not sure, as I don't know the details and anything I say is speculative, but I don't think either party is facing any criminal prosecution. His dismissal is based on his breach of employment conditions, not on the letter of the law. "
I believe a complaint has to be made by a member of the public for indecent esposure charges to be brought |
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"What about action on the other party involved here. Doesn't it take two to tango.
What action can she be subjected to?
Indecent exposure?
Lol yes sex in a public place is against the law, is it not?
Sure is, but don't you have to be caught in the act?
I dunno by the way I'm asking out loud
Is the video enough evidence. But yeah maybe your right. I don't know, i just think it's unfair that one be punished dearly and the other walks away.
He's the one bringing his profession into disrepute and taking a car without permission. Nobody forced him into it.
Of course that's not what I am saying here. He is getting what's coming to him yes and he does deserve what he gets of course. But the the party walks scot free, no charge whatsoever, gets to keep job etc. In my opinion it seems a little unfair is what i am saying.
He had the position of greater responsibility and his actions were potentially damaging to his employer and colleagues . What damage did the other party bring to hers? "
Well this is true I suppose, maybe she might like to be punished in sexual way lol. |
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By *orny guy !Man
over a year ago
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"So are yous all saying (except Paddy36) that he deserves expulsion? I've to say I agree with Paddy, the minister is a dry shite. Of all places sure you think on fab you'd find some that see it what it is without judgment: two people having sex and fun. So f**ing what? Yes some mistakes involved but expulsion? Seriously? "
They were just 2 people playing out their fantasy i would say. Woman in question had a thing for people in uniform, especially Gardai. Seen the video & they both seemed to enjoy themselves. Bit of careless filming & editing & left their guard down & rumbled. See plenty profiles here on fab seeking fun with people in uniform & their getting it too.  |
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"What about action on the other party involved here. Doesn't it take two to tango.
What action can she be subjected to?
Indecent exposure?
Lol yes sex in a public place is against the law, is it not?
Sure is, but don't you have to be caught in the act?
I dunno by the way I'm asking out loud
Is the video enough evidence. But yeah maybe your right. I don't know, i just think it's unfair that one be punished dearly and the other walks away.
He's the one bringing his profession into disrepute and taking a car without permission. Nobody forced him into it.
Of course that's not what I am saying here. He is getting what's coming to him yes and he does deserve what he gets of course. But the the party walks scot free, no charge whatsoever, gets to keep job etc. In my opinion it seems a little unfair is what i am saying.
He had the position of greater responsibility and his actions were potentially damaging to his employer and colleagues . What damage did the other party bring to hers?
Well this is true I suppose, maybe she might like to be punished in sexual way lol. "
Bring back the stocks I say!! |
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"Very unprofessional conduct. He was the bigger dope wearing his uniform and being identified.
Also taking a patrol car without permission. Moron"
Totally agree. He could have been on the clock too in which case expect to get fired for that alone in any job.
If he'd gotten a fancy dress costume and done it in his own time absolutely fine. |
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"So are yous all saying (except Paddy36) that he deserves expulsion? I've to say I agree with Paddy, the minister is a dry shite. Of all places sure you think on fab you'd find some that see it what it is without judgment: two people having sex and fun. So f**ing what? Yes some mistakes involved but expulsion? Seriously?
They were just 2 people playing out their fantasy i would say. Woman in question had a thing for people in uniform, especially Gardai. Seen the video & they both seemed to enjoy themselves. Bit of careless filming & editing & left their guard down & rumbled. See plenty profiles here on fab seeking fun with people in uniform & their getting it too. "
I don't think anyone is saying there's anything wrong with having a uniform fetish or indulging it. The issue was bringing the uniform into disrepute in a very public manner. I've worked for companies in the past who didn't allow you to consume alcohol in public while wearing their uniform, off duty or not, and for companies who don't allow you to mention them on social media, as they don't want the public to perceive an individual employee's opinions or behaviours as representative of the company's own, but they didn't impose any restrictions on you enjoying a glass of wine, in uniform, in the privacy of your own home at the end of the day, or from chatting about your working day among your friends and family over dinner. It's the public perception of how a uniform is used that is the problem. |
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Sure look at the wexford hurler who made a sex tape with Tanya Tate he got 5 minutes of fame all because he played inter county hurling, there were others who made a video with her on her travels around Ireland but nothing written about them. I'm sure they to had professional jobs. But because he was on a public display playing hurling the media went after him and tried to ruin his career but he managed to still keep his place on the team and from what I hear made more movies with Tanya. I say fair play to him. |
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"Sure look at the wexford hurler who made a sex tape with Tanya Tate he got 5 minutes of fame all because he played inter county hurling, there were others who made a video with her on her travels around Ireland but nothing written about them. I'm sure they to had professional jobs. But because he was on a public display playing hurling the media went after him and tried to ruin his career but he managed to still keep his place on the team and from what I hear made more movies with Tanya. I say fair play to him. "
Not actually relevant to this as hurling is not a job. Nor did he use an employers vehicle. The issue is gross misconduct in his employment. |
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"Sure look at the wexford hurler who made a sex tape with Tanya Tate he got 5 minutes of fame all because he played inter county hurling, there were others who made a video with her on her travels around Ireland but nothing written about them. I'm sure they to had professional jobs. But because he was on a public display playing hurling the media went after him and tried to ruin his career but he managed to still keep his place on the team and from what I hear made more movies with Tanya. I say fair play to him.
Not actually relevant to this as hurling is not a job. Nor did he use an employers vehicle. The issue is gross misconduct in his employment. "
Correct 
But just to point out to the poster who brought it up. Even his family are still being dogged by that video almost 10 years later. His brother's successful racing career could barely be mentioned in the media without a reference to this incident being made at some point. Hardly fair on his brother. |
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By *adame BWoman
over a year ago
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I think they are coming down hard on the Garda because they recognise that it's a common fetish/fantasy and it will happen again if not seen to have severe consequences.
Yes, I think the Garda in question was foolish to be identifiable but I think they should crack down on non consensual posting of videos if that is the case here. |
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"Sure look at the wexford hurler who made a sex tape with Tanya Tate he got 5 minutes of fame all because he played inter county hurling, there were others who made a video with her on her travels around Ireland but nothing written about them. I'm sure they to had professional jobs. But because he was on a public display playing hurling the media went after him and tried to ruin his career but he managed to still keep his place on the team and from what I hear made more movies with Tanya. I say fair play to him.
Not actually relevant to this as hurling is not a job. Nor did he use an employers vehicle. The issue is gross misconduct in his employment.
Correct
But just to point out to the poster who brought it up. Even his family are still being dogged by that video almost 10 years later. His brother's successful racing career could barely be mentioned in the media without a reference to this incident being made at some point. Hardly fair on his brother. "
I was unaware that it has plagued his family. In fairness it's nothing to do with them and it's disgraceful that they are dragged through the mud because of his escapades. Not sex related but do people look down on a person's family when one of the siblings is a bad apple and causing any amount of trouble? I wouldn't personally I'd actually feel sorry for them having the bad egg tarnishing there good name. |
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By *orny guy !Man
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"So are yous all saying (except Paddy36) that he deserves expulsion? I've to say I agree with Paddy, the minister is a dry shite. Of all places sure you think on fab you'd find some that see it what it is without judgment: two people having sex and fun. So f**ing what? Yes some mistakes involved but expulsion? Seriously?
Wear uniform myself at times. Voluntary organisation. But we made aware from day 1 when not on a call or duty no hanging around in uniform. Go home get changed & do whatever after.
They were just 2 people playing out their fantasy i would say. Woman in question had a thing for people in uniform, especially Gardai. Seen the video & they both seemed to enjoy themselves. Bit of careless filming & editing & left their guard down & rumbled. See plenty profiles here on fab seeking fun with people in uniform & their getting it too.
I don't think anyone is saying there's anything wrong with having a uniform fetish or indulging it. The issue was bringing the uniform into disrepute in a very public manner. I've worked for companies in the past who didn't allow you to consume alcohol in public while wearing their uniform, off duty or not, and for companies who don't allow you to mention them on social media, as they don't want the public to perceive an individual employee's opinions or behaviours as representative of the company's own, but they didn't impose any restrictions on you enjoying a glass of wine, in uniform, in the privacy of your own home at the end of the day, or from chatting about your working day among your friends and family over dinner. It's the public perception of how a uniform is used that is the problem. "
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Ive changed my mind. If Drew Harris thinks its okay to ride from northern Ireland to Dublin in PSNI vehicle, whit PSNI armed guards, then crash into the barrier at Garda Headquarters by proceeding to blast in, in an unkown, unmarked northern reg plate car, cause the security barrier to flip the car....
Then he has no fucking place at bringing up this stuff to punish people. |
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"Ive changed my mind. If Drew Harris thinks its okay to ride from northern Ireland to Dublin in PSNI vehicle, whit PSNI armed guards, then crash into the barrier at Garda Headquarters by proceeding to blast in, in an unkown, unmarked northern reg plate car, cause the security barrier to flip the car....
Then he has no fucking place at bringing up this stuff to punish people."
Gas thing is that barrier was only installed about 2 weeks ago
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who was filming the whole event then putting it up on social media (most likely) without the consent of the other person...