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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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So rather than hijack another thread any further. I felt it best to start this one.
Question - would you have sex on a first date? If you would, can you share with us why you would be happy to? If no, can you share with us why you would not?
These relate to dating outside of Fabswingers. |
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By *P_80Man
over a year ago
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Answer: Yeah.
Reason: I have a dick.
Just keeping it real.
Side note: it's not that I'd have sex with anyone, but if I was on a date with someone then Id have to be interested in her so yeah. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Answer: Yeah.
Reason: I have a dick.
Just keeping it real.
Side note: it's not that I'd have sex with anyone, but if I was on a date with someone then Id have to be interested in her so yeah."
Lol and if you both had sex and enjoyed it would you think she had no morals? |
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By *P_80Man
over a year ago
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"Answer: Yeah.
Reason: I have a dick.
Just keeping it real.
Side note: it's not that I'd have sex with anyone, but if I was on a date with someone then Id have to be interested in her so yeah.
Lol and if you both had sex and enjoyed it would you think she had no morals? "
Absolutely not. I'm a modern man.
The only thing that could put me off her is if she was prepared to go bareback first time. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Answer: Yeah.
Reason: I have a dick.
Just keeping it real.
Side note: it's not that I'd have sex with anyone, but if I was on a date with someone then Id have to be interested in her so yeah.
Lol and if you both had sex and enjoyed it would you think she had no morals?
Absolutely not. I'm a modern man.
The only thing that could put me off her is if she was prepared to go bareback first time."
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I would. Any first dates I've went on though I haven't even been expecting a kiss as you just never know how well you might click or not. On that note though, if you both click and are both really attracted to each other then I wouldn't see any problem with a bit of first date nookie  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Don't really see what's the big deal about it...
It all depends on a person and circumstances.
Went on a date with a guy from across the country as we somehow just clicked. Had sex on a first date, ended up staying together for over two years.
Went on a date with someone I completely fancied the pants off but that person was going away for a long time in a week, so we both made the best of a little time that we had.
Think if there's no real chemistry between two people - sex or no sex it's not going to last anyway, so why create or follow some rules that don't make much sense anyway?
As long as everyone is safe and happy... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Steph, what are you ssying thank you for and to what? I'm curious."
The fact that he wouldn't think she had had less morals because she slept with him on the first date. |
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Normally no.
Grew up in Dublin where bareback sex regularly offered on first date, avoided it all.
Watched loads around me become single parents, or shack up with a girl cause they got pregnant etc etc.
Now I am older I am hardly gonna start acting like a horny teen and start sticking my dick in anything that asks and probably end up a single dad. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Steph, what are you ssying thank you for and to what? I'm curious.
The fact that he wouldn't think she had had less morals because she slept with him on the first date."
Yes i see that, but why thank him? What are you thankful? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Steph, what are you ssying thank you for and to what? I'm curious.
The fact that he wouldn't think she had had less morals because she slept with him on the first date.
Yes i see that, but why thank him? What are you thankful?"
I thanked him for what he replied. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Steph, what are you ssying thank you for and to what? I'm curious.
The fact that he wouldn't think she had had less morals because she slept with him on the first date.
Yes i see that, but why thank him? What are you thankful?
I thanked him for what he replied. "
The reason i ask is this. You decided to ask him an different question to my posted question on the thread. You were steering the conversation to an answer you were quite sure he would give you. Then you said thank you. So it seems to me that you were trying to make a point. Not sure why, as to me there is no point to make. It is a question about how people are different. There is no right answer, which i think you were trying to show. With your interaction. So i'll ask again, why did you thank him? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Absolutely. I would only go on a date with someone if I already knew him well enough to be genuinely interested in pursuing a relationship, sexual compatibility is an important element for me and I see no point in wasting time going on multiple dates without establishing it. Also, if he was only interested in a pump and dump, as those who see women to be "used" express it, best to not have more than a few hours of my time wasted - it might even be good sex!
I'm an adult, game playing doesn't interest me. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So rather than hijack another thread any further. I felt it best to start this one.
Question - would you have sex on a first date? If you would, can you share with us why you would be happy to? If no, can you share with us why you would not?
These relate to dating outside of Fabswingers. "
Absolutely. Sexual chemistry is the most important thing to me. It makes no sense to hold out in my opinion.
Plus, if he's the kinda guy who would write me off for fucking on the first date, then I'm not interested in seeing him again. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Steph, what are you ssying thank you for and to what? I'm curious.
The fact that he wouldn't think she had had less morals because she slept with him on the first date.
Yes i see that, but why thank him? What are you thankful?
I thanked him for what he replied.
The reason i ask is this. You decided to ask him an different question to my posted question on the thread. You were steering the conversation to an answer you were quite sure he would give you. Then you said thank you. So it seems to me that you were trying to make a point. Not sure why, as to me there is no point to make. It is a question about how people are different. There is no right answer, which i think you were trying to show. With your interaction. So i'll ask again, why did you thank him? "
plenty of people start threads and other posters ask questions within the thread. I was just curious from his initial answer how he felt about her morals so I asked him, he answered and I thanked him for his answer.
As for you question I can't answer as been a long time since I was on a date.
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By (user no longer on site)
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God's honest truth I've never had sex on a first date.Thats more down to the fact that I've genuinely had an interest in the person and wouldn't want to have them think I was a dog just looking to get laid...however,if the situation arose then yes I 100% would and it wouldn't make me think any less of the person. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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The irony here is that someone who is a serial dater could end up having sex with more people that the person who only dates serious prospects but has sex on the first date  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Absolutely. I would only go on a date with someone if I already knew him well enough to be genuinely interested in pursuing a relationship, sexual compatibility is an important element for me and I see no point in wasting time going on multiple dates without establishing it. Also, if he was only interested in a pump and dump, as those who see women to be "used" express it, best to not have more than a few hours of my time wasted - it might even be good sex!
I'm an adult, game playing doesn't interest me. "
It does look like a lot of men fail to grasp the fact that it's nothing to do with woman's general morals and safety.
Yes, some women go on lots of dates with anyone just for the sake of it.
Other women will have one date in 5 years, but it will be a person she genuinely likes in more ways than one.
Say both of them have sex on a first date. How can you even begin to compare their morals and standards?
If you do - it's you who's fucked up. And if you do have that point of view of brushing everyone into the same pile just because they felt attracted to you enough to have sex with you on a first date - good riddance in my eyes |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The irony here is that someone who is a serial dater could end up having sex with more people that the person who only dates serious prospects but has sex on the first date "
Absolutely true and I know a tonne of folk like that. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Steph, what are you ssying thank you for and to what? I'm curious.
The fact that he wouldn't think she had had less morals because she slept with him on the first date.
Yes i see that, but why thank him? What are you thankful?
I thanked him for what he replied.
The reason i ask is this. You decided to ask him an different question to my posted question on the thread. You were steering the conversation to an answer you were quite sure he would give you. Then you said thank you. So it seems to me that you were trying to make a point. Not sure why, as to me there is no point to make. It is a question about how people are different. There is no right answer, which i think you were trying to show. With your interaction. So i'll ask again, why did you thank him?
plenty of people start threads and other posters ask questions within the thread. I was just curious from his initial answer how he felt about her morals so I asked him, he answered and I thanked him for his answer.
As for you question I can't answer as been a long time since I was on a date.
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You asked sbout morals. It's like leading the witness. The funny thingvsbout this is that you are pissed because morals were brought up on anothed thread. Morals are not asked here and its for posters to give their own reasons. Not for you to steer the answers. To one that you think proves something. The only thing it proves is that we are all different. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Steph, what are you ssying thank you for and to what? I'm curious.
The fact that he wouldn't think she had had less morals because she slept with him on the first date.
Yes i see that, but why thank him? What are you thankful?
I thanked him for what he replied.
The reason i ask is this. You decided to ask him an different question to my posted question on the thread. You were steering the conversation to an answer you were quite sure he would give you. Then you said thank you. So it seems to me that you were trying to make a point. Not sure why, as to me there is no point to make. It is a question about how people are different. There is no right answer, which i think you were trying to show. With your interaction. So i'll ask again, why did you thank him?
plenty of people start threads and other posters ask questions within the thread. I was just curious from his initial answer how he felt about her morals so I asked him, he answered and I thanked him for his answer.
As for you question I can't answer as been a long time since I was on a date.
You asked sbout morals. It's like leading the witness. The funny thingvsbout this is that you are pissed because morals were brought up on anothed thread. Morals are not asked here and its for posters to give their own reasons. Not for you to steer the answers. To one that you think proves something. The only thing it proves is that we are all different. "
Let's just leave it at that. Good luck with your Fab journey and your dating journey. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Steph, what are you ssying thank you for and to what? I'm curious.
The fact that he wouldn't think she had had less morals because she slept with him on the first date.
Yes i see that, but why thank him? What are you thankful?
I thanked him for what he replied.
The reason i ask is this. You decided to ask him an different question to my posted question on the thread. You were steering the conversation to an answer you were quite sure he would give you. Then you said thank you. So it seems to me that you were trying to make a point. Not sure why, as to me there is no point to make. It is a question about how people are different. There is no right answer, which i think you were trying to show. With your interaction. So i'll ask again, why did you thank him?
plenty of people start threads and other posters ask questions within the thread. I was just curious from his initial answer how he felt about her morals so I asked him, he answered and I thanked him for his answer.
As for you question I can't answer as been a long time since I was on a date.
You asked sbout morals. It's like leading the witness. The funny thingvsbout this is that you are pissed because morals were brought up on anothed thread. Morals are not asked here and its for posters to give their own reasons. Not for you to steer the answers. To one that you think proves something. The only thing it proves is that we are all different.
Let's just leave it at that. Good luck with your Fab journey and your dating journey."
Bye then. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Depends on a lot things. Type of date, alcohol consumed. First date intentions aren't usually to get laid but alcohol does make the majority of us to get carried away. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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My thoughts.
I would not have sex on a first date. Also, a woman who talks about sex or suggests it on a first date, is not for me.
Why? Ok, because I think sex will sort itself out in good time. In dating i'm looking for many things but a woman who talks about sex or has sex on a first date. I think this, how many other randoms, and that's what first dates are, they are with people you do not know, how many other randoms has she fucked. She give herself up fairly easily. If we got together, what's going to stop her cheating on me with another bloke, as its been fairly easy already to get into her knickers? Another is, maybe she uses sex as a tool. So different reasons really. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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It's been a long time since I've had a first date but when I did I wouldn't have slept with the person. I preferred to get to know them a bit better before deciding to take it further or not...Even though we swing now, and this has altered how we look at sex, I still think that if I was dating someone I would probably still want to get to know them a bit before sleeping with them. Maybe I see swing life and real life as two separate entitles. .in any case it's not to do with morals, just preferences |
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Morals don't come into it. Those games are over. I don't need to have sex on a first date, I like romance and getting to know someone,.. If its offered.. I can say yes or no.. But first date sex is often mediocre. So, I'd probably be happy to wait. And like the previous poster I haven't dated in years. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Absolutely not. I would insist on months of chat and then at least 2 coffee meets, 1 pub drink, a meal out, a day of walking in a park holding hands, then mebbe a kiss ( on the cheeks obviously - Duh), then a dance date where it would be allowed to put my arms around her (#me2), then a cinema date where we both sign affidavits that a back row fumble is allowed before further affidavits are signed that sex is consensual by both parties but excludes anal, bareback and only missionary and no oral.
That’s modern society for ya. |
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There is no right or wrong way when it comes to sex on a first date. It's all down to the individuals and their own preference. Some like to date old school and wait others may think why bother waiting. Personally I think there is nothing wrong with either. As I said before each to their own who are we to judge.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I believe if you want to have sex with another consenting adult on the first date, then great. If you chose not too then that's fine too if that's what both want.
If one is concerned what having sex on the first date will mean for ones ability to trust them in the future well then that's ones problem to deal with and possibly speaks to issues with insecurity
But that's just my opinion
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By (user no longer on site)
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Of course, we're both adults, if there's chemistry and attraction then I see no problem with it!
If I'm on a date with someone it's in the hope of pursuing a relationship with them and while there are a lot of different factors that contribute to a healthy and compatible relationship, sex is of no greater or lesser importance to the rest of them.
I don't see why sexual compatibility should be stigmatised and treated differently to, say, intellectual compatibility.
Granted, sex can/will "improve" once you know a person better but you may not know a person's sense of humour after a first date yet it shouldn't stop you sharing a laugh and a joke with them!
Just my two cents  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I believe if you want to have sex with another consenting adult on the first date, then great. If you chose not too then that's fine too if that's what both want.
If one is concerned what having sex on the first date will mean for ones ability to trust them in the future well then that's ones problem to deal with and possibly speaks to issues with insecurity
But that's just my opinion
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Talking a lot of sense there 
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By *eebawMan
over a year ago
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Personaly i would rather wait for it than first night if i was seriously into a girl. Sex is way more fun if ya know the person or have spend a bit of social time together etc. I find that I would call myself strange like that cause most guys wana just jump straight into sex. Might show why im gettin nowhere lol lol |
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By *oserMan
over a year ago
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"Steph, what are you ssying thank you for and to what? I'm curious.
The fact that he wouldn't think she had had less morals because she slept with him on the first date.
Yes i see that, but why thank him? What are you thankful?
I thanked him for what he replied.
The reason i ask is this. You decided to ask him an different question to my posted question on the thread. You were steering the conversation to an answer you were quite sure he would give you. Then you said thank you. So it seems to me that you were trying to make a point. Not sure why, as to me there is no point to make. It is a question about how people are different. There is no right answer, which i think you were trying to show. With your interaction. So i'll ask again, why did you thank him? "
Jasus, you may be overthinking this trooper  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Steph, what are you ssying thank you for and to what? I'm curious.
The fact that he wouldn't think she had had less morals because she slept with him on the first date.
Yes i see that, but why thank him? What are you thankful?
I thanked him for what he replied.
The reason i ask is this. You decided to ask him an different question to my posted question on the thread. You were steering the conversation to an answer you were quite sure he would give you. Then you said thank you. So it seems to me that you were trying to make a point. Not sure why, as to me there is no point to make. It is a question about how people are different. There is no right answer, which i think you were trying to show. With your interaction. So i'll ask again, why did you thank him?
Jasus, you may be overthinking this trooper "
Hey Yosser. Not overthinking. I know it looks like that. The only reason i pushed why? Was that the particular user was making the comment and posing a different question to the guy that i asked. The reason she was doing this was to try and prove her point. When there really isn't a point to prove. Answers and opinion will vary between people as there is NO right or wrong answer. It was a continuation from another thread
She disagreed with what i said. So by manipulating the question, she got an answer from a man that agreed with her own point. So the thank you was a signal to suggest the kind of 'told you so'. Thing is, there is no right or wrong. So i was just probing to get a truthful response but people like that, don't want conversation, they want to tell you what craic is. They don't want dialogue. Hence the refusal to discuss further. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Steph, what are you ssying thank you for and to what? I'm curious.
The fact that he wouldn't think she had had less morals because she slept with him on the first date.
Yes i see that, but why thank him? What are you thankful?
I thanked him for what he replied.
The reason i ask is this. You decided to ask him an different question to my posted question on the thread. You were steering the conversation to an answer you were quite sure he would give you. Then you said thank you. So it seems to me that you were trying to make a point. Not sure why, as to me there is no point to make. It is a question about how people are different. There is no right answer, which i think you were trying to show. With your interaction. So i'll ask again, why did you thank him?
Jasus, you may be overthinking this trooper
Hey Yosser. Not overthinking. I know it looks like that. The only reason i pushed why? Was that the particular user was making the comment and posing a different question to the guy that i asked. The reason she was doing this was to try and prove her point. When there really isn't a point to prove. Answers and opinion will vary between people as there is NO right or wrong answer. It was a continuation from another thread
She disagreed with what i said. So by manipulating the question, she got an answer from a man that agreed with her own point. So the thank you was a signal to suggest the kind of 'told you so'. Thing is, there is no right or wrong. So i was just probing to get a truthful response but people like that, don't want conversation, they want to tell you what craic is. They don't want dialogue. Hence the refusal to discuss further. "
Oh for gods sake... she said this I said that I thought she meant this so I said that but not sure what she meant so I said something else aaaaarrrrrggghhhhhhh |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Yes, if there is chemistry and both are consenting then it is fun.
I would not judge a girl on it. Firstly, because I am doing it to so there shouldn’t be double standards and secondly, we are consenting adults with needs. |
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"Steph, what are you ssying thank you for and to what? I'm curious.
The fact that he wouldn't think she had had less morals because she slept with him on the first date.
Yes i see that, but why thank him? What are you thankful?
I thanked him for what he replied.
The reason i ask is this. You decided to ask him an different question to my posted question on the thread. You were steering the conversation to an answer you were quite sure he would give you. Then you said thank you. So it seems to me that you were trying to make a point. Not sure why, as to me there is no point to make. It is a question about how people are different. There is no right answer, which i think you were trying to show. With your interaction. So i'll ask again, why did you thank him?
Jasus, you may be overthinking this trooper
Hey Yosser. Not overthinking. I know it looks like that. The only reason i pushed why? Was that the particular user was making the comment and posing a different question to the guy that i asked. The reason she was doing this was to try and prove her point. When there really isn't a point to prove. Answers and opinion will vary between people as there is NO right or wrong answer. It was a continuation from another thread
She disagreed with what i said. So by manipulating the question, she got an answer from a man that agreed with her own point. So the thank you was a signal to suggest the kind of 'told you so'. Thing is, there is no right or wrong. So i was just probing to get a truthful response but people like that, don't want conversation, they want to tell you what craic is. They don't want dialogue. Hence the refusal to discuss further.
Oh for gods sake... she said this I said that I thought she meant this so I said that but not sure what she meant so I said something else aaaaarrrrrggghhhhhhh"
And what did you say. |
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"Steph, what are you ssying thank you for and to what? I'm curious.
The fact that he wouldn't think she had had less morals because she slept with him on the first date.
Yes i see that, but why thank him? What are you thankful?
I thanked him for what he replied.
The reason i ask is this. You decided to ask him an different question to my posted question on the thread. You were steering the conversation to an answer you were quite sure he would give you. Then you said thank you. So it seems to me that you were trying to make a point. Not sure why, as to me there is no point to make. It is a question about how people are different. There is no right answer, which i think you were trying to show. With your interaction. So i'll ask again, why did you thank him?
Jasus, you may be overthinking this trooper
Hey Yosser. Not overthinking. I know it looks like that. The only reason i pushed why? Was that the particular user was making the comment and posing a different question to the guy that i asked. The reason she was doing this was to try and prove her point. When there really isn't a point to prove. Answers and opinion will vary between people as there is NO right or wrong answer. It was a continuation from another thread
She disagreed with what i said. So by manipulating the question, she got an answer from a man that agreed with her own point. So the thank you was a signal to suggest the kind of 'told you so'. Thing is, there is no right or wrong. So i was just probing to get a truthful response but people like that, don't want conversation, they want to tell you what craic is. They don't want dialogue. Hence the refusal to discuss further.
Oh for gods sake... she said this I said that I thought she meant this so I said that but not sure what she meant so I said something else aaaaarrrrrggghhhhhhh And what did you say."
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By *ogladyWoman
over a year ago
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"My thoughts.
I would not have sex on a first date. Also, a woman who talks about sex or suggests it on a first date, is not for me.
Why? Ok, because I think sex will sort itself out in good time. In dating i'm looking for many things but a woman who talks about sex or has sex on a first date. I think this, how many other randoms, and that's what first dates are, they are with people you do not know, how many other randoms has she fucked. She give herself up fairly easily. If we got together, what's going to stop her cheating on me with another bloke, as its been fairly easy already to get into her knickers? Another is, maybe she uses sex as a tool. So different reasons really. "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Steph, what are you ssying thank you for and to what? I'm curious.
The fact that he wouldn't think she had had less morals because she slept with him on the first date.
Yes i see that, but why thank him? What are you thankful?
I thanked him for what he replied.
The reason i ask is this. You decided to ask him an different question to my posted question on the thread. You were steering the conversation to an answer you were quite sure he would give you. Then you said thank you. So it seems to me that you were trying to make a point. Not sure why, as to me there is no point to make. It is a question about how people are different. There is no right answer, which i think you were trying to show. With your interaction. So i'll ask again, why did you thank him?
Jasus, you may be overthinking this trooper
Hey Yosser. Not overthinking. I know it looks like that. The only reason i pushed why? Was that the particular user was making the comment and posing a different question to the guy that i asked. The reason she was doing this was to try and prove her point. When there really isn't a point to prove. Answers and opinion will vary between people as there is NO right or wrong answer. It was a continuation from another thread
She disagreed with what i said. So by manipulating the question, she got an answer from a man that agreed with her own point. So the thank you was a signal to suggest the kind of 'told you so'. Thing is, there is no right or wrong. So i was just probing to get a truthful response but people like that, don't want conversation, they want to tell you what craic is. They don't want dialogue. Hence the refusal to discuss further.
Oh for gods sake... she said this I said that I thought she meant this so I said that but not sure what she meant so I said something else aaaaarrrrrggghhhhhhh And what did you say.
Oh god - not me too #me2- zzzzzzzzz"
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"Steph, what are you ssying thank you for and to what? I'm curious.
The fact that he wouldn't think she had had less morals because she slept with him on the first date.
Yes i see that, but why thank him? What are you thankful?
I thanked him for what he replied.
The reason i ask is this. You decided to ask him an different question to my posted question on the thread. You were steering the conversation to an answer you were quite sure he would give you. Then you said thank you. So it seems to me that you were trying to make a point. Not sure why, as to me there is no point to make. It is a question about how people are different. There is no right answer, which i think you were trying to show. With your interaction. So i'll ask again, why did you thank him?
Jasus, you may be overthinking this trooper
Hey Yosser. Not overthinking. I know it looks like that. The only reason i pushed why? Was that the particular user was making the comment and posing a different question to the guy that i asked. The reason she was doing this was to try and prove her point. When there really isn't a point to prove. Answers and opinion will vary between people as there is NO right or wrong answer. It was a continuation from another thread
She disagreed with what i said. So by manipulating the question, she got an answer from a man that agreed with her own point. So the thank you was a signal to suggest the kind of 'told you so'. Thing is, there is no right or wrong. So i was just probing to get a truthful response but people like that, don't want conversation, they want to tell you what craic is. They don't want dialogue. Hence the refusal to discuss further. "
I didn't think there was any point discussing it further as you have your opinion and I have mine. My opinion is if a guy and girl go on a first date and have sex why do you think her morals are any less than the guys. I'm not here to force my opinion on anyone and I gave no problem listening to a person's opinion. You accused me of hijacking your thread so I left it alone. I never got personal which is the route a lot of people take here. And my comment "thank you" was under no circumstances I told you so. I asked him he answered that's why I said thanks. And anyone that knows me here I have never or would never force my opinion on anyone, we are all adults and we are allowed our own opinion. I was polite and wished you well op. But you seem to have issue with me even when other people posted same opinion as me. I'm not here on forums to fall out what the anyone.
And in answer to your original question I wouldn't sleep with someone on a first date but if the chemistryand all the rest fell into place I might consider it, it doesn't make my morals any less. Again I will say sorry that you think I am forcing my opinion on you. |
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"My thoughts.
I would not have sex on a first date. Also, a woman who talks about sex or suggests it on a first date, is not for me.
Why? Ok, because I think sex will sort itself out in good time. In dating i'm looking for many things but a woman who talks about sex or has sex on a first date. I think this, how many other randoms, and that's what first dates are, they are with people you do not know, how many other randoms has she fucked. She give herself up fairly easily. If we got together, what's going to stop her cheating on me with another bloke, as its been fairly easy already to get into her knickers? Another is, maybe she uses sex as a tool. So different reasons really.
What ya doing here so this is not a dating site "
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"My thoughts.
I would not have sex on a first date. Also, a woman who talks about sex or suggests it on a first date, is not for me.
Why? Ok, because I think sex will sort itself out in good time. In dating i'm looking for many things but a woman who talks about sex or has sex on a first date. I think this, how many other randoms, and that's what first dates are, they are with people you do not know, how many other randoms has she fucked. She give herself up fairly easily. If we got together, what's going to stop her cheating on me with another bloke, as its been fairly easy already to get into her knickers? Another is, maybe she uses sex as a tool. So different reasons really. "
How many dates do you think indicate she may not have fucked randoms or that she would cheat on you?
I woukf have sex on a first date am I more likely to cheat than you, or be more likely to of had more sexual partners on that fact alone? |
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"My thoughts.
I would not have sex on a first date. Also, a woman who talks about sex or suggests it on a first date, is not for me.
Why? Ok, because I think sex will sort itself out in good time. In dating i'm looking for many things but a woman who talks about sex or has sex on a first date. I think this, how many other randoms, and that's what first dates are, they are with people you do not know, how many other randoms has she fucked. She give herself up fairly easily. If we got together, what's going to stop her cheating on me with another bloke, as its been fairly easy already to get into her knickers? Another is, maybe she uses sex as a tool. So different reasons really.
How many dates do you think indicate she may not have fucked randoms or that she would cheat on you?
I woukf have sex on a first date am I more likely to cheat than you, or be more likely to of had more sexual partners on that fact alone?"
See this is the point. There is no right or wrong answers. Those thoughts were just that, thoughts. Whether the assumptions are right or not is neither here nor there. It's just like anything else that puts you off someone. Maybe they talk with their mouth open all the time, maybe they whistle when talking, maybe they constantly sniff and maybe they fuck on the first date. We all have our preferences. So questioning any of the views is total nonsense. It's just for interest and as evident, we all have different views and reasons. Okey dokey? |
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See this is the point. There is no right or wrong answers. Those thoughts were just that, thoughts. Whether the assumptions are right or not is neither here nor there. It's just like anything else that puts you off someone. Maybe they talk with their mouth open all the time, maybe they whistle when talking, maybe they constantly sniff and maybe they fuck on the first date. We all have our preferences. So questioning any of the views is total nonsense. It's just for interest and as evident, we all have different views and reasons. Okey dokey?"
Id like your view though, as you said they were your thoughts.
For you how many dates would you out more are ease and reduce the thoughts about her promiscuity?
Not judging just trying to expand the conversation
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I’m a long time out of the dating game but if I was to start dating now (at my ripe old age!) I dunno what I’d do... I probably wouldn’t set out with a predetermined view... but if there was a connection and the kissing was hot (I do love some tummy flutter inducing kissing) I’d probably just go with the flow and if that meant we ended up having sex then great. If not that’d be ok too, something more to look forward to!
To be clear I’ve never cheated in my life and I don’t think a single consenting adult having sex with another in anyway indicates they are more likely to be a cheater... and to be honest I don’t really understand that rationale or how one would make that connection  . Equally it’s kinda hilarious that someone on a swingers website where everyone is at pains to emphasise their NSA requirement would cite the possibility of a woman having random hook ups as an issue. But hey, maybe I’m just old fashioned |
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See this is the point. There is no right or wrong answers. Those thoughts were just that, thoughts. Whether the assumptions are right or not is neither here nor there. It's just like anything else that puts you off someone. Maybe they talk with their mouth open all the time, maybe they whistle when talking, maybe they constantly sniff and maybe they fuck on the first date. We all have our preferences. So questioning any of the views is total nonsense. It's just for interest and as evident, we all have different views and reasons. Okey dokey?
Id like your view though, as you said they were your thoughts.
For you how many dates would you out more are ease and reduce the thoughts about her promiscuity?
Not judging just trying to expand the conversation
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Yes they are my thoughts and they are my thoughts on sex on a first date. After that, it is another conversation. Maybe for another thread. |
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"So rather than hijack another thread any further. I felt it best to start this one.
Question - would you have sex on a first date? If you would, can you share with us why you would be happy to? If no, can you share with us why you would not?
These relate to dating outside of Fabswingers. "
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"So rather than hijack another thread any further. I felt it best to start this one.
Question - would you have sex on a first date? If you would, can you share with us why you would be happy to? If no, can you share with us why you would not?
These relate to dating outside of Fabswingers.
We did "
no morals there, I like it
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"So rather than hijack another thread any further. I felt it best to start this one.
Question - would you have sex on a first date? If you would, can you share with us why you would be happy to? If no, can you share with us why you would not?
These relate to dating outside of Fabswingers.
We did
no morals there, I like it
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"Don't really see what's the big deal about it...
It all depends on a person and circumstances.
Went on a date with a guy from across the country as we somehow just clicked. Had sex on a first date, ended up staying together for over two years.
Went on a date with someone I completely fancied the pants off but that person was going away for a long time in a week, so we both made the best of a little time that we had.
Think if there's no real chemistry between two people - sex or no sex it's not going to last anyway, so why create or follow some rules that don't make much sense anyway?
As long as everyone is safe and happy... "
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"Answer: Yeah.
Reason: I have a dick.
Just keeping it real.
Side note: it's not that I'd have sex with anyone, but if I was on a date with someone then Id have to be interested in her so yeah.
Lol and if you both had sex and enjoyed it would you think she had no morals? "
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That is a interesting question.
As do guys put women in that category.
Easy because she slept with me on the first night,So not girlfriend material but definitely not wife.
But a fuck buddy type.
Were if she holds out there could be potential.
Or in between.
Or classed as a rude.
I don't know how to word it properly.
Or in the end each to their own and why should you be judged by if you do or don't sleep on the first night. |
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By *lay2018Couple
over a year ago
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"So rather than hijack another thread any further. I felt it best to start this one.
Question - would you have sex on a first date? If you would, can you share with us why you would be happy to? If no, can you share with us why you would not?
These relate to dating outside of Fabswingers. "
Silly thread. Nothing wrong with sex on first date. This is 2019 and everyone is an adult. It's that simple. The only rule I would stick by is it would have to be sex with protection! Untill you can really trust the other person is clean is when you get rid of the rubber. |
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Over thinking is a passion killer.
And that is what happens.
If you are judging some one on the same actions that you are doing,then it really stems from insecurity and hurt.
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over a year ago
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"Steph, what are you ssying thank you for and to what? I'm curious.
The fact that he wouldn't think she had had less morals because she slept with him on the first date.
Yes i see that, but why thank him? What are you thankful?
I thanked him for what he replied.
The reason i ask is this. You decided to ask him an different question to my posted question on the thread. You were steering the conversation to an answer you were quite sure he would give you. Then you said thank you. So it seems to me that you were trying to make a point. Not sure why, as to me there is no point to make. It is a question about how people are different. There is no right answer, which i think you were trying to show. With your interaction. So i'll ask again, why did you thank him?
Jasus, you may be overthinking this trooper
Hey Yosser. Not overthinking. I know it looks like that. The only reason i pushed why? Was that the particular user was making the comment and posing a different question to the guy that i asked. The reason she was doing this was to try and prove her point. When there really isn't a point to prove. Answers and opinion will vary between people as there is NO right or wrong answer. It was a continuation from another thread
She disagreed with what i said. So by manipulating the question, she got an answer from a man that agreed with her own point. So the thank you was a signal to suggest the kind of 'told you so'. Thing is, there is no right or wrong. So i was just probing to get a truthful response but people like that, don't want conversation, they want to tell you what craic is. They don't want dialogue. Hence the refusal to discuss further. "
I think Steph was just looking for reassurance that not everyone thinks a sexually liberated women is being regarded as 'a woman with the morals in the wrong place' or a 'pump and dump'. Which leads to the question why is morality almost reduced to sex only? |
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"If a women said she'd like. 5 cock's. What would she be. Called. Am if a man said he'd like 5 Fanny's what would he be called"
Degraded whore and wishful thinker.
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over a year ago
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"If a women said she'd like. 5 cock's. What would she be. Called. Am if a man said he'd like 5 Fanny's what would he be called
Degraded whore and wishful thinker.
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Hmmm a vague snap |
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"Normally no.
Grew up in Dublin where bareback sex regularly offered on first date, avoided it all.
Watched loads around me become single parents, or shack up with a girl cause they got pregnant etc etc.
Now I am older I am hardly gonna start acting like a horny teen and start sticking my dick in anything that asks and probably end up a single dad."
Been a single parent isn't the end of the world. Not all single parents are from sex on a first date |
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"So rather than hijack another thread any further. I felt it best to start this one.
Question - would you have sex on a first date? If you would, can you share with us why you would be happy to? If no, can you share with us why you would not?
These relate to dating outside of Fabswingers. "
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"So rather than hijack another thread any further. I felt it best to start this one.
Question - would you have sex on a first date? If you would, can you share with us why you would be happy to? If no, can you share with us why you would not?
These relate to dating outside of Fabswingers. "
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Yes. Have done so more than once, back in the day.
Helped a young lady put up her tent at a rock gig once. We met again a few hours later. Had a few drinks and got on like a house on fire. Spent the night proving I could erect more than a tent
We clicked immediately and when we met later, it was almost like old friends getting together. That was a brilliant, youthful experience and I certainly didn't think any less of her for the night we spent together.
Have also had offers of it which I turned down but that was because I wasn't feeling the same way they were.
If you both don't click, or Zing(tell me the reference?), then there shouldn't be any pressure on either party, or derogatory thoughts. |
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"I opted not to have sex on the 1st date but i definitly will on the second date 
Proud of you
What can i say ...does this make me good girl with morals now ??? "
Naturally. Even if you decided to participate in an orgy the night before that first date... as long as you didn't touch a penis on that first date itself - wife material  |
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"I opted not to have sex on the 1st date but i definitly will on the second date
Proud of you
What can i say ...does this make me good girl with morals now ???
Naturally. Even if you decided to participate in an orgy the night before that first date... as long as you didn't touch a penis on that first date itself - wife material "
Yep that's the rules , lol |
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"I opted not to have sex on the 1st date but i definitly will on the second date
Proud of you
What can i say ...does this make me good girl with morals now ???
Naturally. Even if you decided to participate in an orgy the night before that first date... as long as you didn't touch a penis on that first date itself - wife material "
Funny you should say that missus cause on Monday i did just that..fucked two guys at the same time but his penis i did not touch ... i think im bit of a slut thsnk fuck. Id rather not be part of the moral majority |
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"I opted not to have sex on the 1st date but i definitly will on the second date
Proud of you
What can i say ...does this make me good girl with morals now ???
Naturally. Even if you decided to participate in an orgy the night before that first date... as long as you didn't touch a penis on that first date itself - wife material
Funny you should say that missus cause on Monday i did just that..fucked two guys at the same time but his penis i did not touch ... i think im bit of a slut thsnk fuck. Id rather not be part of the moral majority "
But sure if it wasn't a date you're good |
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"If a women said she'd like. 5 cock's. What would she be. Called. Am if a man said he'd like 5 Fanny's what would he be called"
I kinda like Jim Jefferies theory on this.
"Every time a guy sleeps with a lot of women he's called a stud, but every time a woman sleeps with a lot of guys she's called a slut and some people think this is unfair.
Nah, it's totally fair, cause being a slut is easy, its hard to be a stud. To be a stud you have to be witty, charming, well dressed, have nice shoes and a fake job. There are fat ugly sluts, there are no fat ugly studs"
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"I opted not to have sex on the 1st date but i definitly will on the second date
Proud of you
What can i say ...does this make me good girl with morals now ???
Naturally. Even if you decided to participate in an orgy the night before that first date... as long as you didn't touch a penis on that first date itself - wife material
Funny you should say that missus cause on Monday i did just that..fucked two guys at the same time but his penis i did not touch ... i think im bit of a slut thsnk fuck. Id rather not be part of the moral majority "
But you are a part of the moral majority - main criteria to be classed as moral is not to go on a date with a fab person and not to have sex on a first date. Two rules that you followed perfectly which automatically makes you a moral person lol |
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"I opted not to have sex on the 1st date but i definitly will on the second date
Proud of you
What can i say ...does this make me good girl with morals now ???
Naturally. Even if you decided to participate in an orgy the night before that first date... as long as you didn't touch a penis on that first date itself - wife material
Funny you should say that missus cause on Monday i did just that..fucked two guys at the same time but his penis i did not touch ... i think im bit of a slut thsnk fuck. Id rather not be part of the moral majority
But you are a part of the moral majority - main criteria to be classed as moral is not to go on a date with a fab person and not to have sex on a first date. Two rules that you followed perfectly which automatically makes you a moral person lol "
Ah but i didnt do it to please others...im very selfish it was wgat suited me this time. Next time it'll be different ...maybe. missus i play by the beat of my own drum ... which i think someone tried to use as a negitive towards me.... its definitly not |
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Would never even dare to think otherwise and I'm not having a go at you in any way. You're an adult with a brain of your own and know what's best for you without asking for anyone's approval.
Just pointing out the irony and lack of logic in some people's methods of measuring morality. |
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I find it funny that you are mocking opinions of others.
Sex on a first date. Do i want it? No. Why? Well, it's not about sex. My first date is to get to know the other person that i am interested in and on that date with. My first date is about more than just physical attraction. It's about getting to know them. I prioritise sex less than i do other things.
If you want to mock me for that. Crack on. |
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"I find it funny that you are mocking opinions of others.
Sex on a first date. Do i want it? No. Why? Well, it's not about sex. My first date is to get to know the other person that i am interested in and on that date with. My first date is about more than just physical attraction. It's about getting to know them. I prioritise sex less than i do other things.
If you want to mock me for that. Crack on."
1. You do you on any date.
2. I'm sure people go on dates to spend time and get to know the person they go on a date with 100%
The only problem with your logic is: if sex does happen - you automatically assume that the person is "easy", potentially unsafe and is highly likely to cheat on you. That is just ridiculously wrong on more levels than one.
I genuinely don't have a clue how to make it any more plain and simple and how to spell it out to make it clearer. |
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"I find it funny that you are mocking opinions of others.
Sex on a first date. Do i want it? No. Why? Well, it's not about sex. My first date is to get to know the other person that i am interested in and on that date with. My first date is about more than just physical attraction. It's about getting to know them. I prioritise sex less than i do other things.
If you want to mock me for that. Crack on."
On the contrary, you have stated you ascertain a person's moral character from their choices on when to have sex, seems to me that you prioritise sex above all other things. |
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"If a women said she'd like. 5 cock's. What would she be. Called. Am if a man said he'd like 5 Fanny's what would he be called
I kinda like Jim Jefferies theory on this.
"Every time a guy sleeps with a lot of women he's called a stud, but every time a woman sleeps with a lot of guys she's called a slut and some people think this is unfair.
Nah, it's totally fair, cause being a slut is easy, its hard to be a stud. To be a stud you have to be witty, charming, well dressed, have nice shoes and a fake job. There are fat ugly sluts, there are no fat ugly studs"
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"I find it funny that you are mocking opinions of others.
Sex on a first date. Do i want it? No. Why? Well, it's not about sex. My first date is to get to know the other person that i am interested in and on that date with. My first date is about more than just physical attraction. It's about getting to know them. I prioritise sex less than i do other things.
If you want to mock me for that. Crack on.
1. You do you on any date.
2. I'm sure people go on dates to spend time and get to know the person they go on a date with 100%
The only problem with your logic is: if sex does happen - you automatically assume that the person is "easy", potentially unsafe and is highly likely to cheat on you. That is just ridiculously wrong on more levels than one.
I genuinely don't have a clue how to make it any more plain and simple and how to spell it out to make it clearer. "
YES. They ARE easy. That is clear.
As for this constant critique. How many times do i have to say? There is NO right or wrong answer to MY question. You seem to think there is and you continue to bang that drum. If you don't understand the post, i can explain it to you. |
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"I find it funny that you are mocking opinions of others.
Sex on a first date. Do i want it? No. Why? Well, it's not about sex. My first date is to get to know the other person that i am interested in and on that date with. My first date is about more than just physical attraction. It's about getting to know them. I prioritise sex less than i do other things.
If you want to mock me for that. Crack on.
On the contrary, you have stated you ascertain a person's moral character from their choices on when to have sex, seems to me that you prioritise sex above all other things. "
This is a factually incorrect statement. |
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"I find it funny that you are mocking opinions of others.
Sex on a first date. Do i want it? No. Why? Well, it's not about sex. My first date is to get to know the other person that i am interested in and on that date with. My first date is about more than just physical attraction. It's about getting to know them. I prioritise sex less than i do other things.
If you want to mock me for that. Crack on.
On the contrary, you have stated you ascertain a person's moral character from their choices on when to have sex, seems to me that you prioritise sex above all other things.
This is a factually incorrect statement. "
You keep telling yourself that. |
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"Answer: Yeah.
Reason: I have a dick.
Just keeping it real.
Side note: it's not that I'd have sex with anyone, but if I was on a date with someone then Id have to be interested in her so yeah.
Lol and if you both had sex and enjoyed it would you think she had no morals? "
Don't see why one would think that she had no morals and he would. Takes two to have sex, both make conscious choice because you particularly like them enough to have sex with them. Don't think enjoying it or not has anything to do with morals either. Could have been a very good idea at the time, great connection but found out the other wasn't compatible in bed and so one may not have enjoyed it. |
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"I find it funny that you are mocking opinions of others.
Sex on a first date. Do i want it? No. Why? Well, it's not about sex. My first date is to get to know the other person that i am interested in and on that date with. My first date is about more than just physical attraction. It's about getting to know them. I prioritise sex less than i do other things.
If you want to mock me for that. Crack on.
On the contrary, you have stated you ascertain a person's moral character from their choices on when to have sex, seems to me that you prioritise sex above all other things.
This is a factually incorrect statement.
You keep telling yourself that. "
I don't need to. It is. |
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"I find it funny that you are mocking opinions of others.
Sex on a first date. Do i want it? No. Why? Well, it's not about sex. My first date is to get to know the other person that i am interested in and on that date with. My first date is about more than just physical attraction. It's about getting to know them. I prioritise sex less than i do other things.
If you want to mock me for that. Crack on.
On the contrary, you have stated you ascertain a person's moral character from their choices on when to have sex, seems to me that you prioritise sex above all other things.
This is a factually incorrect statement.
You keep telling yourself that.
I don't need to. It is."
Of course it is, just as you keep telling yourself that morals are absolutes
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So if i was to do a summary..
A. There are people who fuck on first date arranged via a swingers website.
B. There are people who never fuck on first date arranged via swingers website.
C. There is everyone else stuck listening to people in camp A and camp B arguing over something that will never have a right or wrong answer.
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"I find it funny that you are mocking opinions of others.
Sex on a first date. Do i want it? No. Why? Well, it's not about sex. My first date is to get to know the other person that i am interested in and on that date with. My first date is about more than just physical attraction. It's about getting to know them. I prioritise sex less than i do other things.
If you want to mock me for that. Crack on.
1. You do you on any date.
2. I'm sure people go on dates to spend time and get to know the person they go on a date with 100%
The only problem with your logic is: if sex does happen - you automatically assume that the person is "easy", potentially unsafe and is highly likely to cheat on you. That is just ridiculously wrong on more levels than one.
I genuinely don't have a clue how to make it any more plain and simple and how to spell it out to make it clearer. "
This is one of these times I think you're mistaken Missus. Reread carefully what you've said. Ill put my hand up and say I'll agree with the OP on what he's just explained.
It's a date, not a fab hookup. I also wouldn't have sex on the first date and if she was pushing it, alarm bells would ring in my ear.
This subject has many parallels to the topic yesterday about would you date a known current fabber. Ones behaviour, activities, lifestyle (yep swinging is, as it fucking new partners regularly), cconversations(in forum) and choices have huge impact as to how others rightly or wrongly perceive who and what you are. |
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"So if i was to do a summary..
A. There are people who fuck on first date arranged via a swingers website.
B. There are people who never fuck on first date arranged via swingers website.
C. There is everyone else stuck listening to people in camp A and camp B arguing over something that will never have a right or wrong answer.
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Boom, much like 90% topics here lmao. Were less tolerate to other opinions that we like to let on.
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"So if i was to do a summary..
A. There are people who fuck on first date arranged via a swingers website.
B. There are people who never fuck on first date arranged via swingers website.
C. There is everyone else stuck listening to people in camp A and camp B arguing over something that will never have a right or wrong answer.
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Completely wrong if you read the opening post. It relates to non-fab activity. Apparently its OK to fuck people without delay here but in the dating world its necessary to fake "morality" , because who would want a long-term partner who accepts them as they are, and with whom they are not afraid to express themselves? |
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"So if i was to do a summary..
A. There are people who fuck on first date arranged via a swingers website.
B. There are people who never fuck on first date arranged via swingers website.
C. There is everyone else stuck listening to people in camp A and camp B arguing over something that will never have a right or wrong answer.
Completely wrong if you read the opening post. It relates to non-fab activity. Apparently its OK to fuck people without delay here but in the dating world its necessary to fake "morality" , because who would want a long-term partner who accepts them as they are, and with whom they are not afraid to express themselves? "
Think his summary is about the responses and not the OP unless I've misundertood him. Most of the replies didn't make the connection the OP originally said unless I'm mistaken which is quite possible. |
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"Would never even dare to think otherwise and I'm not having a go at you in any way. You're an adult with a brain of your own and know what's best for you without asking for anyone's approval.
Just pointing out the irony and lack of logic in some people's methods of measuring morality. "
Each to their own i say tbh. Personally if i choose to go "straight" so to speak it'll be for someone pretty special. Atm i like it like this... long may it last. Ive two sides to me (at the least) but even with a guy not from fab they seem to know my sexual side is not boring. I dont advertise but a very good friend (gay) tells me its in my eyes...their bold 
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"Would never even dare to think otherwise and I'm not having a go at you in any way. You're an adult with a brain of your own and know what's best for you without asking for anyone's approval.
Just pointing out the irony and lack of logic in some people's methods of measuring morality.
Each to their own i say tbh. Personally if i choose to go "straight" so to speak it'll be for someone pretty special. Atm i like it like this... long may it last. Ive two sides to me (at the least) but even with a guy not from fab they seem to know my sexual side is not boring. I dont advertise but a very good friend (gay) tells me its in my eyes...their bold
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"I find it funny that you are mocking opinions of others.
Sex on a first date. Do i want it? No. Why? Well, it's not about sex. My first date is to get to know the other person that i am interested in and on that date with. My first date is about more than just physical attraction. It's about getting to know them. I prioritise sex less than i do other things.
If you want to mock me for that. Crack on."
This is your opinion and its not been mocked but in my opinion sexual chemistry is every bit as important as whether we like to read the same books or listen to the same music. These are activities i can do with friends. If its a man i eventully want to go tò bed with i need to know early on that there's sexual chemistry.
Sex isn't a bad thing nor is it a reward for good behaviour. Its something that happens naturally between two consenting adults. Whether it happens on tbe 1st date or the 10th date is irrelevant. |
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"Would never even dare to think otherwise and I'm not having a go at you in any way. You're an adult with a brain of your own and know what's best for you without asking for anyone's approval.
Just pointing out the irony and lack of logic in some people's methods of measuring morality.
Each to their own i say tbh. Personally if i choose to go "straight" so to speak it'll be for someone pretty special. Atm i like it like this... long may it last. Ive two sides to me (at the least) but even with a guy not from fab they seem to know my sexual side is not boring. I dont advertise but a very good friend (gay) tells me its in my eyes...their bold
Without sounding creepy, we swopped pics i think on face pic Friday, and I can confirm they are bold "
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I don't see why sex on a first date should detract from the rest of the experience.
We all wish to get to know a person, enjoy their company and conversation, otherwise you wouldn't go on a date with them!
Does sleeping with each other at the end of a night in which you've laughed, listened and thoroughly enjoyed yourselves negate the connection you may have established?
We all wish to connect with a person on, say, an intellectual level but that should hold no greater precedence than any other aspect of a potential relationship; sexual compatibility being one of them.
We all have our preferences and for that nobody has been, or ought to be, judged. However, when morality is discussed and disparaged then I do feel that's open for discussion and justifiably allowed to be challenged.
I personally don't agree with the defence of "traditional values" because it's too vague and ambiguous a term.
What constitutes "traditional"? The Victorians, the Romans, the Greeks? All a bunch of randier buggers than any of us!
When I hear that I can't help but think someone has taken their values from Disney movies.
We're all adults and, again, we all have our preferences but when we allow societal stigmas to frame those preferences I think they can misguided. |
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Think his summary is about the responses and not the OP unless I've misundertood him. Most of the replies didn't make the connection the OP originally said unless I'm mistaken which is quite possible."
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"I don't see why sex on a first date should detract from the rest of the experience.
We all wish to get to know a person, enjoy their company and conversation, otherwise you wouldn't go on a date with them!
Does sleeping with each other at the end of a night in which you've laughed, listened and thoroughly enjoyed yourselves negate the connection you may have established?
We all wish to connect with a person on, say, an intellectual level but that should hold no greater precedence than any other aspect of a potential relationship; sexual compatibility being one of them.
We all have our preferences and for that nobody has been, or ought to be, judged. However, when morality is discussed and disparaged then I do feel that's open for discussion and justifiably allowed to be challenged.
I personally don't agree with the defence of "traditional values" because it's too vague and ambiguous a term.
What constitutes "traditional"? The Victorians, the Romans, the Greeks? All a bunch of randier buggers than any of us!
When I hear that I can't help but think someone has taken their values from Disney movies.
We're all adults and, again, we all have our preferences but when we allow societal stigmas to frame those preferences I think they can misguided. "
Jesus everything he said !!! Brilliant.. just brilliant. Tbe Romans,Greeks and Victorions were filthy...those Tudorswere the worst of all |
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"I find it funny that you are mocking opinions of others.
Sex on a first date. Do i want it? No. Why? Well, it's not about sex. My first date is to get to know the other person that i am interested in and on that date with. My first date is about more than just physical attraction. It's about getting to know them. I prioritise sex less than i do other things.
If you want to mock me for that. Crack on.
On the contrary, you have stated you ascertain a person's moral character from their choices on when to have sex, seems to me that you prioritise sex above all other things.
This is a factually incorrect statement. "
Good luck in getting meets lol... (Christ !) |
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I personally believe if a woman or man is up for sex on first date they have very little self respect and probably don't deserve to be respected . But I'm not surprised with the views of most on here like I said little self respect. |
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"I personally believe if a woman or man is up for sex on first date they have very little self respect and probably don't deserve to be respected . But I'm not surprised with the views of most on here like I said little self respect. "
Ha ha. Are u a member of the DUP? |
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"I personally believe if a woman or man is up for sex on first date they have very little self respect and probably don't deserve to be respected . But I'm not surprised with the views of most on here like I said little self respect.
Ha ha. Are u a member of the DUP?"
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"I personally believe if a woman or man is up for sex on first date they have very little self respect and probably don't deserve to be respected . But I'm not surprised with the views of most on here like I said little self respect. "
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"I personally believe if a woman or man is up for sex on first date they have very little self respect and probably don't deserve to be respected . But I'm not surprised with the views of most on here like I said little self respect.
Ha ha. Are u a member of the DUP?"
No I'm a member of the self respect party. |
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"I personally believe if a woman or man is up for sex on first date they have very little self respect and probably don't deserve to be respected . But I'm not surprised with the views of most on here like I said little self respect.
Ha ha. Are u a member of the DUP?
No I'm a member of the self respect party."
Wahey!!!! It's our favourite troll back again under a different name.
How's it going buddy? Have you got your big wooden spoon with ya? |
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"I personally believe if a woman or man is up for sex on first date they have very little self respect and probably don't deserve to be respected . But I'm not surprised with the views of most on here like I said little self respect.
Ha ha. Are u a member of the DUP?
No I'm a member of the self respect party.
Wahey!!!! It's our favourite troll back again under a different name.
How's it going buddy? Have you got your big wooden spoon with ya? "
Yea when i spotted his same old boring dribble, he sent me one of his usual creepy messages! , get a life man |
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"I personally believe if a woman or man is up for sex on first date they have very little self respect and probably don't deserve to be respected . But I'm not surprised with the views of most on here like I said little self respect.
Ha ha. Are u a member of the DUP?
No I'm a member of the self respect party.
Wahey!!!! It's our favourite troll back again under a different name.
How's it going buddy? Have you got your big wooden spoon with ya?
Yea when i spotted his same old boring dribble, he sent me one of his usual creepy messages! , get a life man"
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"I personally believe if a woman or man is up for sex on first date they have very little self respect and probably don't deserve to be respected . But I'm not surprised with the views of most on here like I said little self respect.
Ha ha. Are u a member of the DUP?
No I'm a member of the self respect party.
Wahey!!!! It's our favourite troll back again under a different name.
How's it going buddy? Have you got your big wooden spoon with ya?
Yea when i spotted his same old boring dribble, he sent me one of his usual creepy messages! , get a life man
This is his life! "
Well you give your opinion and people start name calling very immature. |
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"I personally believe if a woman or man is up for sex on first date they have very little self respect and probably don't deserve to be respected . But I'm not surprised with the views of most on here like I said little self respect.
Ha ha. Are u a member of the DUP? No I'm a member of the self respect party."
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha OMG ur funny ha ha |
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"I personally believe if a woman or man is up for sex on first date they have very little self respect and probably don't deserve to be respected . But I'm not surprised with the views of most on here like I said little self respect.
Ha ha. Are u a member of the DUP? No I'm a member of the self respect party.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha OMG ur funny ha ha"
You find people who promote self respect funny. |
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"I personally believe if a woman or man is up for sex on first date they have very little self respect and probably don't deserve to be respected . But I'm not surprised with the views of most on here like I said little self respect.
Ha ha. Are u a member of the DUP? No I'm a member of the self respect party.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha OMG ur funny ha ha You find people who promote self respect funny."
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"I personally believe if a woman or man is up for sex on first date they have very little self respect and probably don't deserve to be respected . But I'm not surprised with the views of most on here like I said little self respect.
Ha ha. Are u a member of the DUP?
No I'm a member of the self respect party.
Wahey!!!! It's our favourite troll back again under a different name.
How's it going buddy? Have you got your big wooden spoon with ya?
Yea when i spotted his same old boring dribble, he sent me one of his usual creepy messages! , get a life man
This is his life! Well you give your opinion and people start name calling very immature."
Who called you names? |
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"I personally believe if a woman or man is up for sex on first date they have very little self respect and probably don't deserve to be respected . But I'm not surprised with the views of most on here like I said little self respect.
Ha ha. Are u a member of the DUP? No I'm a member of the self respect party.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha OMG ur funny ha ha You find people who promote self respect funny.
No - just you"
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Yes I would and the last time it happened we both jokingly discussed beforehand that absolutely nothing was going to happen on the first date and then I kissed her and those plans got forgotten about |
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And once again our friendly local troll takes over the thread and what was a good debate is ruined. People we know who he is ..we know hes just seeking attention ..how about we ignore this naughty boy and his poor choices.
Then we can continue to have adult debetes and discussions.
OP genuinly it was a great thread, i might not agree with you but it got me thinking about why. Well done sir |
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"And once again our friendly local troll takes over the thread and what was a good debate is ruined. People we know who he is ..we know hes just seeking attention ..how about we ignore this naughty boy and his poor choices.
Then we can continue to have adult debetes and discussions.
OP genuinly it was a great thread, i might not agree with you but it got me thinking about why. Well done sir "
I'm on board |
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"And once again our friendly local troll takes over the thread and what was a good debate is ruined. People we know who he is ..we know hes just seeking attention ..how about we ignore this naughty boy and his poor choices.
Then we can continue to have adult debetes and discussions.
OP genuinly it was a great thread, i might not agree with you but it got me thinking about why. Well done sir
I'm on board "
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" OP genuinely it was a great thread, I might not agree with you but it got me thinking about why. Well done sir
Very magnanimous of you Rover. If only more people could be that way. "
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" YES. They ARE easy. That is clear.
As for this constant critique. How many times do i have to say? There is NO right or wrong answer to MY question. You seem to think there is and you continue to bang that drum. "
There is a wrong answer.
If you judge someone's fidelity and morale character based on a repressed, religious, sexist view of sex then that is wrong! |
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"And once again our friendly local troll takes over the thread and what was a good debate is ruined. People we know who he is ..we know hes just seeking attention ..how about we ignore this naughty boy and his poor choices.
Then we can continue to have adult debetes and discussions.
OP genuinly it was a great thread, i might not agree with you but it got me thinking about why. Well done sir "
I agree, rover, it's certainly exposed the true attitudes of a lot of men. |
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"And once again our friendly local troll takes over the thread and what was a good debate is ruined. People we know who he is ..we know hes just seeking attention ..how about we ignore this naughty boy and his poor choices.
Then we can continue to have adult debetes and discussions.
OP genuinly it was a great thread, i might not agree with you but it got me thinking about why. Well done sir
I agree, rover, it's certainly exposed the true attitudes of a lot of men. "
About time some of them had the guts to say what they think. |
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"And once again our friendly local troll takes over the thread and what was a good debate is ruined. People we know who he is ..we know hes just seeking attention ..how about we ignore this naughty boy and his poor choices.
Then we can continue to have adult debetes and discussions.
OP genuinly it was a great thread, i might not agree with you but it got me thinking about why. Well done sir
I agree, rover, it's certainly exposed the true attitudes of a lot of men. About time some of them had the guts to say what they think. "
Trolls don't count |
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"And once again our friendly local troll takes over the thread and what was a good debate is ruined. People we know who he is ..we know hes just seeking attention ..how about we ignore this naughty boy and his poor choices.
Then we can continue to have adult debetes and discussions.
OP genuinly it was a great thread, i might not agree with you but it got me thinking about why. Well done sir
I agree, rover, it's certainly exposed the true attitudes of a lot of men. About time some of them had the guts to say what they think.
Trolls don't count "
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"And once again our friendly local troll takes over the thread and what was a good debate is ruined. People we know who he is ..we know hes just seeking attention ..how about we ignore this naughty boy and his poor choices.
Then we can continue to have adult debetes and discussions.
OP genuinly it was a great thread, i might not agree with you but it got me thinking about why. Well done sir
I agree, rover, it's certainly exposed the true attitudes of a lot of men. "
I think it's an instinct that's in the back of alot of men's minds, it's just there and always has been,maybe as part of a survival mechanism, some more than others, as for us feck morals, we're guilty of our first date also |
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"And once again our friendly local troll takes over the thread and what was a good debate is ruined. People we know who he is ..we know hes just seeking attention ..how about we ignore this naughty boy and his poor choices.
Then we can continue to have adult debetes and discussions.
OP genuinly it was a great thread, i might not agree with you but it got me thinking about why. Well done sir
I agree, rover, it's certainly exposed the true attitudes of a lot of men.
I think it's an instinct that's in the back of alot of men's minds, it's just there and always has been,maybe as part of a survival mechanism, some more than others, as for us feck morals, we're guilty of our first date also"
Maybe it's got little to do with morals, and more to do with having evolved. |
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"And once again our friendly local troll takes over the thread and what was a good debate is ruined. People we know who he is ..we know hes just seeking attention ..how about we ignore this naughty boy and his poor choices.
Then we can continue to have adult debetes and discussions.
OP genuinly it was a great thread, i might not agree with you but it got me thinking about why. Well done sir
I agree, rover, it's certainly exposed the true attitudes of a lot of men.
I think it's an instinct that's in the back of alot of men's minds, it's just there and always has been,maybe as part of a survival mechanism, some more than others, as for us feck morals, we're guilty of our first date also
Maybe it's got little to do with morals, and more to do with having evolved. "
OK, but how long do we have morals? |
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"And once again our friendly local troll takes over the thread and what was a good debate is ruined. People we know who he is ..we know hes just seeking attention ..how about we ignore this naughty boy and his poor choices.
Then we can continue to have adult debetes and discussions.
OP genuinly it was a great thread, i might not agree with you but it got me thinking about why. Well done sir
I agree, rover, it's certainly exposed the true attitudes of a lot of men.
I think it's an instinct that's in the back of alot of men's minds, it's just there and always has been,maybe as part of a survival mechanism, some more than others, as for us feck morals, we're guilty of our first date also
Maybe it's got little to do with morals, and more to do with having evolved.
OK, but how long do we have morals? "
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"And once again our friendly local troll takes over the thread and what was a good debate is ruined. People we know who he is ..we know hes just seeking attention ..how about we ignore this naughty boy and his poor choices.
Then we can continue to have adult debetes and discussions.
OP genuinly it was a great thread, i might not agree with you but it got me thinking about why. Well done sir
I agree, rover, it's certainly exposed the true attitudes of a lot of men.
I think it's an instinct that's in the back of alot of men's minds, it's just there and always has been,maybe as part of a survival mechanism, some more than others, as for us feck morals, we're guilty of our first date also
Maybe it's got little to do with morals, and more to do with having evolved.
OK, but how long do we have morals? "
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I meant men having evolved to a point where they don't see a woman as their property and don't insist that she must be somehow sexually "pure" in order to be sure of the continuity of their bloodline. These are really primitive insecurities. |
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"And once again our friendly local troll takes over the thread and what was a good debate is ruined. People we know who he is ..we know hes just seeking attention ..how about we ignore this naughty boy and his poor choices.
Then we can continue to have adult debetes and discussions.
OP genuinly it was a great thread, i might not agree with you but it got me thinking about why. Well done sir
I agree, rover, it's certainly exposed the true attitudes of a lot of men. "
It has . .id go so far as to suggest the madonna/whore complex is alive and well in ireland. Your either a good girl ir a bad girl !! Me, im both |
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"I meant men having evolved to a point where they don't see a woman as their property and don't insist that she must be somehow sexually "pure" in order to be sure of the continuity of their bloodline. These are really primitive insecurities. "
I agree, and my point being those primitive insecurities are still largely there in alot of men wheather they express it or notlike it or not, less on on swinging site obviously but in the vanilla world I know lots of men who ideally want that..  |
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"I meant men having evolved to a point where they don't see a woman as their property and don't insist that she must be somehow sexually "pure" in order to be sure of the continuity of their bloodline. These are really primitive insecurities. "
Women have evolved, we're no longer dependent on a man for financial security or for social standing. If a man judges you on whether you've shagged him on the 1st date he's not worth my time or effort. Sex is just that sex, been connected to someone takes alot more effort... sex is only one very small part of it. |
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"I meant men having evolved to a point where they don't see a woman as their property and don't insist that she must be somehow sexually "pure" in order to be sure of the continuity of their bloodline. These are really primitive insecurities.
Women have evolved, we're no longer dependent on a man for financial security or for social standing. If a man judges you on whether you've shagged him on the 1st date he's not worth my time or effort. Sex is just that sex, been connected to someone takes alot more effort... sex is only one very small part of it. "
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"I meant men having evolved to a point where they don't see a woman as their property and don't insist that she must be somehow sexually "pure" in order to be sure of the continuity of their bloodline. These are really primitive insecurities.
I agree, and my point being those primitive insecurities are still largely there in alot of men wheather they express it or notlike it or not, less on on swinging site obviously but in the vanilla world I know lots of men who ideally want that.. "
Oh I would fully agree - with the exception of "less on a swinging site"..... |
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"I meant men having evolved to a point where they don't see a woman as their property and don't insist that she must be somehow sexually "pure" in order to be sure of the continuity of their bloodline. These are really primitive insecurities.
Women have evolved, we're no longer dependent on a man for financial security or for social standing. If a man judges you on whether you've shagged him on the 1st date he's not worth my time or effort. Sex is just that sex, been connected to someone takes alot more effort... sex is only one very small part of it. "
Agreed, and its a matter of ing out those who haven't kept up. |
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"I meant men having evolved to a point where they don't see a woman as their property and don't insist that she must be somehow sexually "pure" in order to be sure of the continuity of their bloodline. These are really primitive insecurities.
Women have evolved, we're no longer dependent on a man for financial security or for social standing. If a man judges you on whether you've shagged him on the 1st date he's not worth my time or effort. Sex is just that sex, been connected to someone takes alot more effort... sex is only one very small part of it.
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Ana x"
I'm not disagreeing, and that's a very valid point about wemon evolving, but remember as along as the human race has existed this has happened in a very short space of time in our history and men have not properly adapted to that yet.. Just my humble opinion |
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"I meant men having evolved to a point where they don't see a woman as their property and don't insist that she must be somehow sexually "pure" in order to be sure of the continuity of their bloodline. These are really primitive insecurities.
Women have evolved, we're no longer dependent on a man for financial security or for social standing. If a man judges you on whether you've shagged him on the 1st date he's not worth my time or effort. Sex is just that sex, been connected to someone takes alot more effort... sex is only one very small part of it.
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I'm not disagreeing, and that's a very valid point about wemon evolving, but remember as along as the human race has existed this has happened in a very short space of time in our history and men have not properly adapted to that yet.. Just my humble opinion "
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"I meant men having evolved to a point where they don't see a woman as their property and don't insist that she must be somehow sexually "pure" in order to be sure of the continuity of their bloodline. These are really primitive insecurities.
Women have evolved, we're no longer dependent on a man for financial security or for social standing. If a man judges you on whether you've shagged him on the 1st date he's not worth my time or effort. Sex is just that sex, been connected to someone takes alot more effort... sex is only one very small part of it.
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I'm not disagreeing, and that's a very valid point about wemon evolving, but remember as along as the human race has existed this has happened in a very short space of time in our history and men have not properly adapted to that yet.. Just my humble opinion "
Welll . . About time you guys caught up ... the sexual revolution and women's lib happened a few years ago now ...you know we can vote ?? |
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"I meant men having evolved to a point where they don't see a woman as their property and don't insist that she must be somehow sexually "pure" in order to be sure of the continuity of their bloodline. These are really primitive insecurities.
Women have evolved, we're no longer dependent on a man for financial security or for social standing. If a man judges you on whether you've shagged him on the 1st date he's not worth my time or effort. Sex is just that sex, been connected to someone takes alot more effort... sex is only one very small part of it.
This
Ana x
I'm not disagreeing, and that's a very valid point about wemon evolving, but remember as along as the human race has existed this has happened in a very short space of time in our history and men have not properly adapted to that yet.. Just my humble opinion
Welll . . About time you guys caught up ... the sexual revolution and women's lib happened a few years ago now ...you know we can vote ?? "
Yep need to, but I for one voted for wemon lib in sexual revolution, I believe it won by a landslide |
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"I meant men having evolved to a point where they don't see a woman as their property and don't insist that she must be somehow sexually "pure" in order to be sure of the continuity of their bloodline. These are really primitive insecurities.
Women have evolved, we're no longer dependent on a man for financial security or for social standing. If a man judges you on whether you've shagged him on the 1st date he's not worth my time or effort. Sex is just that sex, been connected to someone takes alot more effort... sex is only one very small part of it.
This
Ana x
I'm not disagreeing, and that's a very valid point about wemon evolving, but remember as along as the human race has existed this has happened in a very short space of time in our history and men have not properly adapted to that yet.. Just my humble opinion
Welll . . About time you guys caught up ... the sexual revolution and women's lib happened a few years ago now ...you know we can vote ??
Yep need to, but I for one voted for wemon lib in sexual revolution, I believe it won by a landslide "
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