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"Nature over nuture"
Psychology verses sociology. Do you not think current affairs mould how we externally react to others and situations? That are morals can sway in certain circumstances? |
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Society can molded by media and chase that graftication that we all desire
We are consumers nowadays
Just feel the fundamentals of our life will always be standing |
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I think there are certain base instincts that will not changed regardless of sociatal changes.
There instinct to procreate and to nurture youth. To survive (in wjat ever world you are living)
We adapt to our world but the basic nature of our existance is still the same. |
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"Is human nature constant or is it molded by culture? Can human nature be completely changed by culture or society?"
It's far too malleable. Society is being railroaded by the potent combo of ideology and social media.
Or maybe human nature is static and we're being expertly nudged or shoved by a media/movement(s) who've learned the tools to play on our biases, blindspots and push buttons.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Nature over nuture
Psychology verses sociology. Do you not think current affairs mould how we externally react to others and situations? That are morals can sway in certain circumstances? "
There's human nature and then there are personality and intellectual traits.
Some people fall much harder for bullshit than others.
Some will burn down banks while others raise an eyebrow. |
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"I think there are certain base instincts that will not changed regardless of sociatal changes.
There instinct to procreate and to nurture youth. To survive (in wjat ever world you are living)
We adapt to our world but the basic nature of our existance is still the same. "
Feminism is doing a very good job of talking women out of having kids. Sheryl Sandberg told them to lean in to corporate life and out of family life. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think there are certain base instincts that will not changed regardless of sociatal changes.
There instinct to procreate and to nurture youth. To survive (in wjat ever world you are living)
We adapt to our world but the basic nature of our existance is still the same.
Feminism is doing a very good job of talking women out of having kids. Sheryl Sandberg told them to lean in to corporate life and out of family life. "
A very small minority in the grand scheme of things. There will always be people who act in different ways.
Plus you are generalising in relation to Feminisim, there are extreme and moderate versions. The extreme versions of Feminisim have turned it into a dirty word. |
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"I think there are certain base instincts that will not changed regardless of sociatal changes.
There instinct to procreate and to nurture youth. To survive (in wjat ever world you are living)
We adapt to our world but the basic nature of our existance is still the same.
Feminism is doing a very good job of talking women out of having kids. Sheryl Sandberg told them to lean in to corporate life and out of family life. "
Or ....
Perhaps better & more widely available contraception is helping those who don't want to have kids to avoid doing so |
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"I think there are certain base instincts that will not changed regardless of sociatal changes.
There instinct to procreate and to nurture youth. To survive (in wjat ever world you are living)
We adapt to our world but the basic nature of our existance is still the same.
Feminism is doing a very good job of talking women out of having kids. Sheryl Sandberg told them to lean in to corporate life and out of family life.
Or ....
Perhaps better & more widely available contraception is helping those who don't want to have kids to avoid doing so"
Exactly we have choice |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think there are certain base instincts that will not changed regardless of sociatal changes.
There instinct to procreate and to nurture youth. To survive (in wjat ever world you are living)
We adapt to our world but the basic nature of our existance is still the same.
Feminism is doing a very good job of talking women out of having kids. Sheryl Sandberg told them to lean in to corporate life and out of family life.
A very small minority in the grand scheme of things. There will always be people who act in different ways.
Plus you are generalising in relation to Feminisim, there are extreme and moderate versions. The extreme versions of Feminisim have turned it into a dirty word. "
They cross pollinate |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think there are certain base instincts that will not changed regardless of sociatal changes.
There instinct to procreate and to nurture youth. To survive (in wjat ever world you are living)
We adapt to our world but the basic nature of our existance is still the same.
Feminism is doing a very good job of talking women out of having kids. Sheryl Sandberg told them to lean in to corporate life and out of family life.
Or ....
Perhaps better & more widely available contraception is helping those who don't want to have kids to avoid doing so"
No I mean a more recent trend ...
Anyway I think it's a disservice but not a big deal, I'm sure many of the ideologically possesed 22 year olds will get broody as time matches on. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think there are certain base instincts that will not changed regardless of sociatal changes.
There instinct to procreate and to nurture youth. To survive (in wjat ever world you are living)
We adapt to our world but the basic nature of our existance is still the same.
Feminism is doing a very good job of talking women out of having kids. Sheryl Sandberg told them to lean in to corporate life and out of family life.
Or ....
Perhaps better & more widely available contraception is helping those who don't want to have kids to avoid doing so
No I mean a more recent trend ...
Anyway I think it's a disservice but not a big deal, I'm sure many of the ideologically possesed 22 year olds will get broody as time matches on. "
To be honest the planet could do with a good chunk of the current and future generation of men and women to cool the jets on the babymaking  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think there are certain base instincts that will not changed regardless of sociatal changes.
There instinct to procreate and to nurture youth. To survive (in wjat ever world you are living)
We adapt to our world but the basic nature of our existance is still the same.
Feminism is doing a very good job of talking women out of having kids. Sheryl Sandberg told them to lean in to corporate life and out of family life.
Or ....
Perhaps better & more widely available contraception is helping those who don't want to have kids to avoid doing so
No I mean a more recent trend ...
Anyway I think it's a disservice but not a big deal, I'm sure many of the ideologically possesed 22 year olds will get broody as time matches on.
To be honest the planet could do with a good chunk of the current and future generation of men and women to cool the jets on the babymaking "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think there are certain base instincts that will not changed regardless of sociatal changes.
There instinct to procreate and to nurture youth. To survive (in wjat ever world you are living)
We adapt to our world but the basic nature of our existance is still the same.
Feminism is doing a very good job of talking women out of having kids. Sheryl Sandberg told them to lean in to corporate life and out of family life. "
Think it’s more a reaction to what they see happening with women who give up their career to have a family. Before there wasn’t a choice and various other changes in society have aided the decision not just the feminist movement. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think there are certain base instincts that will not changed regardless of sociatal changes.
There instinct to procreate and to nurture youth. To survive (in wjat ever world you are living)
We adapt to our world but the basic nature of our existance is still the same.
Feminism is doing a very good job of talking women out of having kids. Sheryl Sandberg told them to lean in to corporate life and out of family life.
Or ....
Perhaps better & more widely available contraception is helping those who don't want to have kids to avoid doing so
No I mean a more recent trend ...
Anyway I think it's a disservice but not a big deal, I'm sure many of the ideologically possesed 22 year olds will get broody as time matches on.
To be honest the planet could do with a good chunk of the current and future generation of men and women to cool the jets on the babymaking "
That's wrong ..it's based on the unrealistic premise that developing countries (India especially) will continue with high birth rates.
It's proven that birth rate decreases with prosperity.
The global population will rise and plateau.
You are showing your form for oversimplified solutions. Most of feminism falls in that bracket...all populist ideologies need simple logic that sounds plausible but are invariably wrong or at least much more complex when you get into the details.
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"I think there are certain base instincts that will not changed regardless of sociatal changes.
There instinct to procreate and to nurture youth. To survive (in wjat ever world you are living)
We adapt to our world but the basic nature of our existance is still the same.
Feminism is doing a very good job of talking women out of having kids. Sheryl Sandberg told them to lean in to corporate life and out of family life.
Or ....
Perhaps better & more widely available contraception is helping those who don't want to have kids to avoid doing so
No I mean a more recent trend ...
Anyway I think it's a disservice but not a big deal, I'm sure many of the ideologically possesed 22 year olds will get broody as time matches on.
To be honest the planet could do with a good chunk of the current and future generation of men and women to cool the jets on the babymaking
That's wrong ..it's based on the unrealistic premise that developing countries (India especially) will continue with high birth rates.
It's proven that birth rate decreases with prosperity.
The global population will rise and plateau.
You are showing your form for oversimplified solutions. Most of feminism falls in that bracket...all populist ideologies need simple logic that sounds plausible but are invariably wrong or at least much more complex when you get into the details.
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Where does your obsession with feminism stem from? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think there are certain base instincts that will not changed regardless of sociatal changes.
There instinct to procreate and to nurture youth. To survive (in wjat ever world you are living)
We adapt to our world but the basic nature of our existance is still the same.
Feminism is doing a very good job of talking women out of having kids. Sheryl Sandberg told them to lean in to corporate life and out of family life.
Or ....
Perhaps better & more widely available contraception is helping those who don't want to have kids to avoid doing so
No I mean a more recent trend ...
Anyway I think it's a disservice but not a big deal, I'm sure many of the ideologically possesed 22 year olds will get broody as time matches on.
To be honest the planet could do with a good chunk of the current and future generation of men and women to cool the jets on the babymaking
That's wrong ..it's based on the unrealistic premise that developing countries (India especially) will continue with high birth rates.
It's proven that birth rate decreases with prosperity.
The global population will rise and plateau.
You are showing your form for oversimplified solutions. Most of feminism falls in that bracket...all populist ideologies need simple logic that sounds plausible but are invariably wrong or at least much more complex when you get into the details.
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By proven do you mean stats? As in the European Union population is rising, Ireland, UK, France are all developing countries now?
But you keep generalising idologies no need to look at the complexities of a massive movement like feminisim |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I think there are certain base instincts that will not changed regardless of sociatal changes.
There instinct to procreate and to nurture youth. To survive (in wjat ever world you are living)
We adapt to our world but the basic nature of our existance is still the same.
Feminism is doing a very good job of talking women out of having kids. Sheryl Sandberg told them to lean in to corporate life and out of family life.
Or ....
Perhaps better & more widely available contraception is helping those who don't want to have kids to avoid doing so
No I mean a more recent trend ...
Anyway I think it's a disservice but not a big deal, I'm sure many of the ideologically possesed 22 year olds will get broody as time matches on.
To be honest the planet could do with a good chunk of the current and future generation of men and women to cool the jets on the babymaking
That's wrong ..it's based on the unrealistic premise that developing countries (India especially) will continue with high birth rates.
It's proven that birth rate decreases with prosperity.
The global population will rise and plateau.
You are showing your form for oversimplified solutions. Most of feminism falls in that bracket...all populist ideologies need simple logic that sounds plausible but are invariably wrong or at least much more complex when you get into the details.
By proven do you mean stats? As in the European Union population is rising, Ireland, UK, France are all developing countries now?
But you keep generalising idologies no need to look at the complexities of a massive movement like feminisim "
My views on over population. If you take a look at one of the most toxic areas on our planet, Chernobyl, you’d think with the levels of radioactivity the wildlife would be hindered. It’s not. The opposite is happening. Without the human impact, life in the area is flourishing. I’m not saying humanity is toxic, I’m saying left to its own devices life thrives. Will the population plateau? I hope it already has.
I agree with the principles of first and second wave feminism that all people are created equal. I certainly don’t agree with third wave where all are created equally but women are more equal than men. That men must be held accountable for the actions of previous generations. That’s social justice talk and it gets us nowhere fast.
Our emotions and morals are impacted on on a daily bases and yes we do sway accordingly but we hold firm key moral standings as a base level. If we didn’t sway we don’t evolve. I think we get our morality from the world around us (and not from a religious book) and we guide the morals of the world. |
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It's not just feminism....i'm a cranky bastard against all low resolution movements and all forms of identity politics that create division.
I'm pro equality therefore raise some serious eyebrows at modern feminism
I'm anti-racism and therefore criticise BLM - they just stoke the fires from both sides
They are just as bad as the chauvinistic red pill stuff or the white supremacist stuff but dangerously have a veil of credibility and gain power by the effect of the vocal tyrannical minority.
I'm interested in reducing economic inequality so I rip the piss out of people seduced by overly simple hate the rich philosophies or who look for extreme solutions (trump and brexit).
So on so forth....all these movements have a radical core clamouring for power and corrupting good minds. Blind polarised ideology is the new opium of the people when all we need is (free) love and community
Useful hashtags:
"whitetrash"
"killallmen"
"burnthebanks" |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think there are certain base instincts that will not changed regardless of sociatal changes.
There instinct to procreate and to nurture youth. To survive (in wjat ever world you are living)
We adapt to our world but the basic nature of our existance is still the same.
Feminism is doing a very good job of talking women out of having kids. Sheryl Sandberg told them to lean in to corporate life and out of family life.
Or ....
Perhaps better & more widely available contraception is helping those who don't want to have kids to avoid doing so
No I mean a more recent trend ...
Anyway I think it's a disservice but not a big deal, I'm sure many of the ideologically possesed 22 year olds will get broody as time matches on.
To be honest the planet could do with a good chunk of the current and future generation of men and women to cool the jets on the babymaking
That's wrong ..it's based on the unrealistic premise that developing countries (India especially) will continue with high birth rates.
It's proven that birth rate decreases with prosperity.
The global population will rise and plateau.
You are showing your form for oversimplified solutions. Most of feminism falls in that bracket...all populist ideologies need simple logic that sounds plausible but are invariably wrong or at least much more complex when you get into the details.
By proven do you mean stats? As in the European Union population is rising, Ireland, UK, France are all developing countries now?
But you keep generalising idologies no need to look at the complexities of a massive movement like feminisim "
You are grasping at straws....how many siblings did your grandparents have, then your parents
It's a known effect. You need to read some books outside of your echo chamber.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think there are certain base instincts that will not changed regardless of sociatal changes.
There instinct to procreate and to nurture youth. To survive (in wjat ever world you are living)
We adapt to our world but the basic nature of our existance is still the same.
Feminism is doing a very good job of talking women out of having kids. Sheryl Sandberg told them to lean in to corporate life and out of family life.
Think it’s more a reaction to what they see happening with women who give up their career to have a family. Before there wasn’t a choice and various other changes in society have aided the decision not just the feminist movement. "
There has been choice for a good 20-30 years minimum, but there wasn't the propagation of feminist theory from small academic circles to the greater public via social and mainstream media
There's been a rapid rise in this conversation in just 3 years - it's disproportionate. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think there are certain base instincts that will not changed regardless of sociatal changes.
There instinct to procreate and to nurture youth. To survive (in wjat ever world you are living)
We adapt to our world but the basic nature of our existance is still the same.
Feminism is doing a very good job of talking women out of having kids. Sheryl Sandberg told them to lean in to corporate life and out of family life.
Or ....
Perhaps better & more widely available contraception is helping those who don't want to have kids to avoid doing so
No I mean a more recent trend ...
Anyway I think it's a disservice but not a big deal, I'm sure many of the ideologically possesed 22 year olds will get broody as time matches on.
To be honest the planet could do with a good chunk of the current and future generation of men and women to cool the jets on the babymaking
That's wrong ..it's based on the unrealistic premise that developing countries (India especially) will continue with high birth rates.
It's proven that birth rate decreases with prosperity.
The global population will rise and plateau.
You are showing your form for oversimplified solutions. Most of feminism falls in that bracket...all populist ideologies need simple logic that sounds plausible but are invariably wrong or at least much more complex when you get into the details.
By proven do you mean stats? As in the European Union population is rising, Ireland, UK, France are all developing countries now?
But you keep generalising idologies no need to look at the complexities of a massive movement like feminisim
You are grasping at straws....how many siblings did your grandparents have, then your parents
It's a known effect. You need to read some books outside of your echo chamber.
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The level of growth is slowing but its still growing. I mean I'm not sure where to go with you if statistical facts are grasping at straws.
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"I think there are certain base instincts that will not changed regardless of sociatal changes.
There instinct to procreate and to nurture youth. To survive (in wjat ever world you are living)
We adapt to our world but the basic nature of our existance is still the same.
Feminism is doing a very good job of talking women out of having kids. Sheryl Sandberg told them to lean in to corporate life and out of family life.
Or ....
Perhaps better & more widely available contraception is helping those who don't want to have kids to avoid doing so
No I mean a more recent trend ...
Anyway I think it's a disservice but not a big deal, I'm sure many of the ideologically possesed 22 year olds will get broody as time matches on.
To be honest the planet could do with a good chunk of the current and future generation of men and women to cool the jets on the babymaking
That's wrong ..it's based on the unrealistic premise that developing countries (India especially) will continue with high birth rates.
It's proven that birth rate decreases with prosperity.
The global population will rise and plateau.
You are showing your form for oversimplified solutions. Most of feminism falls in that bracket...all populist ideologies need simple logic that sounds plausible but are invariably wrong or at least much more complex when you get into the details.
By proven do you mean stats? As in the European Union population is rising, Ireland, UK, France are all developing countries now?
But you keep generalising idologies no need to look at the complexities of a massive movement like feminisim
You are grasping at straws....how many siblings did your grandparents have, then your parents
It's a known effect. You need to read some books outside of your echo chamber.
The level of growth is slowing but its still growing. I mean I'm not sure where to go with you if statistical facts are grasping at straws.
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You are hard work....
There are statistics from all around the world that show the effect of growing income on birthrate.
Google the work of Hans Rosling and educate yourself.
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"That men must be held accountable for the actions of previous generations. That’s social justice talk and it gets us nowhere fast.
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It really beggars belief when you see what are usually well educated sane people adopt the mindset that revenge = justice. |
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"I think there are certain base instincts that will not changed regardless of sociatal changes.
There instinct to procreate and to nurture youth. To survive (in wjat ever world you are living)
We adapt to our world but the basic nature of our existance is still the same.
Feminism is doing a very good job of talking women out of having kids. Sheryl Sandberg told them to lean in to corporate life and out of family life.
Or ....
Perhaps better & more widely available contraception is helping those who don't want to have kids to avoid doing so
No I mean a more recent trend ...
Anyway I think it's a disservice but not a big deal, I'm sure many of the ideologically possesed 22 year olds will get broody as time matches on.
To be honest the planet could do with a good chunk of the current and future generation of men and women to cool the jets on the babymaking
That's wrong ..it's based on the unrealistic premise that developing countries (India especially) will continue with high birth rates.
It's proven that birth rate decreases with prosperity.
The global population will rise and plateau.
You are showing your form for oversimplified solutions. Most of feminism falls in that bracket...all populist ideologies need simple logic that sounds plausible but are invariably wrong or at least much more complex when you get into the details.
By proven do you mean stats? As in the European Union population is rising, Ireland, UK, France are all developing countries now?
But you keep generalising idologies no need to look at the complexities of a massive movement like feminisim
You are grasping at straws....how many siblings did your grandparents have, then your parents
It's a known effect. You need to read some books outside of your echo chamber.
The level of growth is slowing but its still growing. I mean I'm not sure where to go with you if statistical facts are grasping at straws.
You are hard work....
There are statistics from all around the world that show the effect of growing income on birthrate.
Google the work of Hans Rosling and educate yourself.
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Slowing does not mean reducing.
I wouldnt argue more developed countries have lower birthrates but not to the point where it will have a major impact on global populations. At least not at its current trend. As I said EU population has grown during economic growth.
Anyway this has been fun, but I think we are at an impass, happy christmas fella  |
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"I think there are certain base instincts that will not changed regardless of sociatal changes.
There instinct to procreate and to nurture youth. To survive (in wjat ever world you are living)
We adapt to our world but the basic nature of our existance is still the same.
Feminism is doing a very good job of talking women out of having kids. Sheryl Sandberg told them to lean in to corporate life and out of family life.
Or ....
Perhaps better & more widely available contraception is helping those who don't want to have kids to avoid doing so
No I mean a more recent trend ...
Anyway I think it's a disservice but not a big deal, I'm sure many of the ideologically possesed 22 year olds will get broody as time matches on.
To be honest the planet could do with a good chunk of the current and future generation of men and women to cool the jets on the babymaking
That's wrong ..it's based on the unrealistic premise that developing countries (India especially) will continue with high birth rates.
It's proven that birth rate decreases with prosperity.
The global population will rise and plateau.
You are showing your form for oversimplified solutions. Most of feminism falls in that bracket...all populist ideologies need simple logic that sounds plausible but are invariably wrong or at least much more complex when you get into the details.
By proven do you mean stats? As in the European Union population is rising, Ireland, UK, France are all developing countries now?
But you keep generalising idologies no need to look at the complexities of a massive movement like feminisim
You are grasping at straws....how many siblings did your grandparents have, then your parents
It's a known effect. You need to read some books outside of your echo chamber.
The level of growth is slowing but its still growing. I mean I'm not sure where to go with you if statistical facts are grasping at straws.
You are hard work....
There are statistics from all around the world that show the effect of growing income on birthrate.
Google the work of Hans Rosling and educate yourself.
Slowing does not mean reducing.
I wouldnt argue more developed countries have lower birthrates but not to the point where it will have a major impact on global populations. At least not at its current trend. As I said EU population has grown during economic growth.
Anyway this has been fun, but I think we are at an impass, happy christmas fella "
An impass - you are mentally constipated.
Just open your mind and have some humility, when you are wrong you are wrong, it's no big deal.
The runaway population growth thesis is just one example of how most people have erroneous assumptions of how the world really is.
There may well be a good world war to decimate the population if people like you keeping stoking discontent with populist noise anyway |
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"I think there are certain base instincts that will not changed regardless of sociatal changes.
There instinct to procreate and to nurture youth. To survive (in wjat ever world you are living)
We adapt to our world but the basic nature of our existance is still the same.
Feminism is doing a very good job of talking women out of having kids. Sheryl Sandberg told them to lean in to corporate life and out of family life.
Think it’s more a reaction to what they see happening with women who give up their career to have a family. Before there wasn’t a choice and various other changes in society have aided the decision not just the feminist movement.
There has been choice for a good 20-30 years minimum, but there wasn't the propagation of feminist theory from small academic circles to the greater public via social and mainstream media
There's been a rapid rise in this conversation in just 3 years - it's disproportionate. "
My own theory it’s more a result of the churches demise in Ireland and how the definition of the family unit in Ireland is changing and the roles within it. |
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"I think there are certain base instincts that will not changed regardless of sociatal changes.
There instinct to procreate and to nurture youth. To survive (in wjat ever world you are living)
We adapt to our world but the basic nature of our existance is still the same.
Feminism is doing a very good job of talking women out of having kids. Sheryl Sandberg told them to lean in to corporate life and out of family life.
Think it’s more a reaction to what they see happening with women who give up their career to have a family. Before there wasn’t a choice and various other changes in society have aided the decision not just the feminist movement.
There has been choice for a good 20-30 years minimum, but there wasn't the propagation of feminist theory from small academic circles to the greater public via social and mainstream media
There's been a rapid rise in this conversation in just 3 years - it's disproportionate.
My own theory it’s more a result of the churches demise in Ireland and how the definition of the family unit in Ireland is changing and the roles within it. "
Was at mass recently and the priest (mid 40s) was a complete disgrace over the abortion. He was so far out of tune that I was going to leave only it was a family mass I would have been gone |
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