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"In one hand out the other. No different to any other year" Very true....sometimes i wonder would i be better off on benefits | |||
"In one hand out the other. No different to any other year Very true....sometimes i wonder would i be better off on benefits" Nope even though some seem to do alright. Thankfully most of us have a work ethic and want to work and make our lives better. Saying that if I won the lotto | |||
"In one hand out the other. No different to any other year Very true....sometimes i wonder would i be better off on benefits Nope even though some seem to do alright. Thankfully most of us have a work ethic and want to work and make our lives better. Saying that if I won the lotto " Youd take me on holiday with you... | |||
"In one hand out the other. No different to any other year Very true....sometimes i wonder would i be better off on benefits Nope even though some seem to do alright. Thankfully most of us have a work ethic and want to work and make our lives better. Saying that if I won the lotto Youd take me on holiday with you... " Nope I'm off to Bora Bora on my own | |||
"Id love to see the introduction of a wealth tax once and for all, but unfortunately that wont happen with the two mainstream parties..I hope they at least give an extra two hundred million on top of whats planned, to finally start to aleviate the housing crisis.." Ok....this is in no way directed at the op on this... Housing crisis....there are 200 thousand vacant or abandoned homes in ireland....now there are between 10 and 11 thousand homeless here...so what crisis... | |||
"In one hand out the other. No different to any other year Very true....sometimes i wonder would i be better off on benefits Nope even though some seem to do alright. Thankfully most of us have a work ethic and want to work and make our lives better. Saying that if I won the lotto Youd take me on holiday with you... Nope I'm off to Bora Bora on my own " But...but....but....i was gonna bring you with me I swear i was | |||
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"Well how else do you expect them to pay for abortion services for everyone in Ireland and northern Ireland." Is that not a women's choice at the end of the day..... | |||
"Id love to see the introduction of a wealth tax once and for all, but unfortunately that wont happen with the two mainstream parties..I hope they at least give an extra two hundred million on top of whats planned, to finally start to aleviate the housing crisis.. Ok....this is in no way directed at the op on this... Housing crisis....there are 200 thousand vacant or abandoned homes in ireland....now there are between 10 and 11 thousand homeless here...so what crisis..." Are you a radical from take back the city group these properies belong to people, have you any solution to how this could be done.. | |||
"Id love to see the introduction of a wealth tax once and for all, but unfortunately that wont happen with the two mainstream parties..I hope they at least give an extra two hundred million on top of whats planned, to finally start to aleviate the housing crisis.. Ok....this is in no way directed at the op on this... Housing crisis....there are 200 thousand vacant or abandoned homes in ireland....now there are between 10 and 11 thousand homeless here...so what crisis... Are you a radical from take back the city group these properies belong to people, have you any solution to how this could be done.." Im far from a radical.theres actually more than 200 thousand...theres an extra 62 thousand holiday homes..those propertys are abandoned...or defaulted...or owned by banks.. Make rent affordable is one thing...council houses that are affordable and meet the requirements of the people... | |||
"Id love to see the introduction of a wealth tax once and for all, but unfortunately that wont happen with the two mainstream parties..I hope they at least give an extra two hundred million on top of whats planned, to finally start to aleviate the housing crisis.. Ok....this is in no way directed at the op on this... Housing crisis....there are 200 thousand vacant or abandoned homes in ireland....now there are between 10 and 11 thousand homeless here...so what crisis... Are you a radical from take back the city group these properies belong to people, have you any solution to how this could be done.. Im far from a radical.theres actually more than 200 thousand...theres an extra 62 thousand holiday homes..those propertys are abandoned...or defaulted...or owned by banks.. Make rent affordable is one thing...council houses that are affordable and meet the requirements of the people..." If only it was that easy. Alot, granted not all, of the familes that are homeless at the moment will not leave the cities and towns they are located in to live in holiday homes and rural areas. And even if they did the small amount of support systems they currently have would be gone. A home is only half a solution if they then cannot afford food, clothing and education. I am in no way professing to be an expert and I dont have any better solutions, I think calling it a housing crisis is misleading we have much deeper problems than just getting these people accomodation anywhere at all. | |||
"Id love to see the introduction of a wealth tax once and for all, but unfortunately that wont happen with the two mainstream parties..I hope they at least give an extra two hundred million on top of whats planned, to finally start to aleviate the housing crisis.." Very interesting article on that very topic yesterday in the IT by David McWilliams... | |||
"Id love to see the introduction of a wealth tax once and for all, but unfortunately that wont happen with the two mainstream parties..I hope they at least give an extra two hundred million on top of whats planned, to finally start to aleviate the housing crisis.. Ok....this is in no way directed at the op on this... Housing crisis....there are 200 thousand vacant or abandoned homes in ireland....now there are between 10 and 11 thousand homeless here...so what crisis... Are you a radical from take back the city group these properies belong to people, have you any solution to how this could be done.. Im far from a radical.theres actually more than 200 thousand...theres an extra 62 thousand holiday homes..those propertys are abandoned...or defaulted...or owned by banks.. Make rent affordable is one thing...council houses that are affordable and meet the requirements of the people..." Peter mcverry and other ngos have being putting these proposals to government for the last number of years, compulsory purchase orders maybe? Were quite possibly talking billions here..there are no council properties, thats the hub of the problem,pardon the pun.. | |||
"Id love to see the introduction of a wealth tax once and for all, but unfortunately that wont happen with the two mainstream parties..I hope they at least give an extra two hundred million on top of whats planned, to finally start to aleviate the housing crisis.. Ok....this is in no way directed at the op on this... Housing crisis....there are 200 thousand vacant or abandoned homes in ireland....now there are between 10 and 11 thousand homeless here...so what crisis... Are you a radical from take back the city group these properies belong to people, have you any solution to how this could be done.. Im far from a radical.theres actually more than 200 thousand...theres an extra 62 thousand holiday homes..those propertys are abandoned...or defaulted...or owned by banks.. Make rent affordable is one thing...council houses that are affordable and meet the requirements of the people... If only it was that easy. Alot, granted not all, of the familes that are homeless at the moment will not leave the cities and towns they are located in to live in holiday homes and rural areas. And even if they did the small amount of support systems they currently have would be gone. A home is only half a solution if they then cannot afford food, clothing and education. I am in no way professing to be an expert and I dont have any better solutions, I think calling it a housing crisis is misleading we have much deeper problems than just getting these people accomodation anywhere at all." We sure have....the rich get richer....i know affordable rent wont solve it....but itll help | |||
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"Id love to see the introduction of a wealth tax once and for all, but unfortunately that wont happen with the two mainstream parties..I hope they at least give an extra two hundred million on top of whats planned, to finally start to aleviate the housing crisis.. Ok....this is in no way directed at the op on this... Housing crisis....there are 200 thousand vacant or abandoned homes in ireland....now there are between 10 and 11 thousand homeless here...so what crisis... Are you a radical from take back the city group these properies belong to people, have you any solution to how this could be done.. Im far from a radical.theres actually more than 200 thousand...theres an extra 62 thousand holiday homes..those propertys are abandoned...or defaulted...or owned by banks.. Make rent affordable is one thing...council houses that are affordable and meet the requirements of the people... If only it was that easy. Alot, granted not all, of the familes that are homeless at the moment will not leave the cities and towns they are located in to live in holiday homes and rural areas. And even if they did the small amount of support systems they currently have would be gone. A home is only half a solution if they then cannot afford food, clothing and education. I am in no way professing to be an expert and I dont have any better solutions, I think calling it a housing crisis is misleading we have much deeper problems than just getting these people accomodation anywhere at all. We sure have....the rich get richer....i know affordable rent wont solve it....but itll help " I agree about the affordable rent it needs to be a complete overhaul of our approch to the tax and welfare system that will take years to do if its donr correctly. Until then its patchwork. And the problem is the people respnsible for doing any of it rely on votes | |||
"Id love to see the introduction of a wealth tax once and for all, but unfortunately that wont happen with the two mainstream parties..I hope they at least give an extra two hundred million on top of whats planned, to finally start to aleviate the housing crisis.. Ok....this is in no way directed at the op on this... Housing crisis....there are 200 thousand vacant or abandoned homes in ireland....now there are between 10 and 11 thousand homeless here...so what crisis... Are you a radical from take back the city group these properies belong to people, have you any solution to how this could be done.. Im far from a radical.theres actually more than 200 thousand...theres an extra 62 thousand holiday homes..those propertys are abandoned...or defaulted...or owned by banks.. Make rent affordable is one thing...council houses that are affordable and meet the requirements of the people... If only it was that easy. Alot, granted not all, of the familes that are homeless at the moment will not leave the cities and towns they are located in to live in holiday homes and rural areas. And even if they did the small amount of support systems they currently have would be gone. A home is only half a solution if they then cannot afford food, clothing and education. I am in no way professing to be an expert and I dont have any better solutions, I think calling it a housing crisis is misleading we have much deeper problems than just getting these people accomodation anywhere at all." The homeless crisis are not my words, but peter mcverrys..im certainly no expert on these matters, but i am inclined to listen to a man of his experience in trying to deal with these issues over a life time..i think we might at least agree, that for the four thousand children in emergency accomodation, it is a crisis.. | |||
"Id love to see the introduction of a wealth tax once and for all, but unfortunately that wont happen with the two mainstream parties..I hope they at least give an extra two hundred million on top of whats planned, to finally start to aleviate the housing crisis.. Ok....this is in no way directed at the op on this... Housing crisis....there are 200 thousand vacant or abandoned homes in ireland....now there are between 10 and 11 thousand homeless here...so what crisis... Are you a radical from take back the city group these properies belong to people, have you any solution to how this could be done.. Im far from a radical.theres actually more than 200 thousand...theres an extra 62 thousand holiday homes..those propertys are abandoned...or defaulted...or owned by banks.. Make rent affordable is one thing...council houses that are affordable and meet the requirements of the people... If only it was that easy. Alot, granted not all, of the familes that are homeless at the moment will not leave the cities and towns they are located in to live in holiday homes and rural areas. And even if they did the small amount of support systems they currently have would be gone. A home is only half a solution if they then cannot afford food, clothing and education. I am in no way professing to be an expert and I dont have any better solutions, I think calling it a housing crisis is misleading we have much deeper problems than just getting these people accomodation anywhere at all. The homeless crisis are not my words, but peter mcverrys..im certainly no expert on these matters, but i am inclined to listen to a man of his experience in trying to deal with these issues over a life time..i think we might at least agree, that for the four thousand children in emergency accomodation, it is a crisis.." Def a man worth his weight in gold....ideally these abandoned home should be made affordable to the people in need of them most...also in broader terms theres a property bubble forming and thats gonna make prices go mental | |||
"Id love to see the introduction of a wealth tax once and for all, but unfortunately that wont happen with the two mainstream parties..I hope they at least give an extra two hundred million on top of whats planned, to finally start to aleviate the housing crisis.. Ok....this is in no way directed at the op on this... Housing crisis....there are 200 thousand vacant or abandoned homes in ireland....now there are between 10 and 11 thousand homeless here...so what crisis... Are you a radical from take back the city group these properies belong to people, have you any solution to how this could be done.. Im far from a radical.theres actually more than 200 thousand...theres an extra 62 thousand holiday homes..those propertys are abandoned...or defaulted...or owned by banks.. Make rent affordable is one thing...council houses that are affordable and meet the requirements of the people... If only it was that easy. Alot, granted not all, of the familes that are homeless at the moment will not leave the cities and towns they are located in to live in holiday homes and rural areas. And even if they did the small amount of support systems they currently have would be gone. A home is only half a solution if they then cannot afford food, clothing and education. I am in no way professing to be an expert and I dont have any better solutions, I think calling it a housing crisis is misleading we have much deeper problems than just getting these people accomodation anywhere at all. The homeless crisis are not my words, but peter mcverrys..im certainly no expert on these matters, but i am inclined to listen to a man of his experience in trying to deal with these issues over a life time..i think we might at least agree, that for the four thousand children in emergency accomodation, it is a crisis.." Its an absolute disgrace. What I ment was the crisis is alot bigger than just housing, therefore just concentrating on housing alone wont solve it | |||
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"Id love to see the introduction of a wealth tax once and for all, but unfortunately that wont happen with the two mainstream parties..I hope they at least give an extra two hundred million on top of whats planned, to finally start to aleviate the housing crisis.." the majority of people dont give a fuck about the housing crisis they would rather see income tax cuts. | |||
"Id love to see the introduction of a wealth tax once and for all, but unfortunately that wont happen with the two mainstream parties..I hope they at least give an extra two hundred million on top of whats planned, to finally start to aleviate the housing crisis.. Ok....this is in no way directed at the op on this... Housing crisis....there are 200 thousand vacant or abandoned homes in ireland....now there are between 10 and 11 thousand homeless here...so what crisis... Are you a radical from take back the city group these properies belong to people, have you any solution to how this could be done.. Im far from a radical.theres actually more than 200 thousand...theres an extra 62 thousand holiday homes..those propertys are abandoned...or defaulted...or owned by banks.. Make rent affordable is one thing...council houses that are affordable and meet the requirements of the people... If only it was that easy. Alot, granted not all, of the familes that are homeless at the moment will not leave the cities and towns they are located in to live in holiday homes and rural areas. And even if they did the small amount of support systems they currently have would be gone. A home is only half a solution if they then cannot afford food, clothing and education. I am in no way professing to be an expert and I dont have any better solutions, I think calling it a housing crisis is misleading we have much deeper problems than just getting these people accomodation anywhere at all. The homeless crisis are not my words, but peter mcverrys..im certainly no expert on these matters, but i am inclined to listen to a man of his experience in trying to deal with these issues over a life time..i think we might at least agree, that for the four thousand children in emergency accomodation, it is a crisis.. Its an absolute disgrace. What I ment was the crisis is alot bigger than just housing, therefore just concentrating on housing alone wont solve it" I get you, i came across an interesting initiative last week, within the various county councils..each new tenant receiving keys to their new home are also required to liase with a worker from one of the ngos, focus ireland, simon community etc, on a weekly basis for a minimum of three months, longer if necessary. Within this, there supported, with getting children into schools, changing doctors etc etc, whatever needs they may have in fact, similar to the wrap around service your highlighting, i think.. | |||
"Id love to see the introduction of a wealth tax once and for all, but unfortunately that wont happen with the two mainstream parties..I hope they at least give an extra two hundred million on top of whats planned, to finally start to aleviate the housing crisis..the majority of people dont give a fuck about the housing crisis they would rather see income tax cuts." You will always get people more interested in serving their own needs, such is fab | |||
"Id love to see the introduction of a wealth tax once and for all, but unfortunately that wont happen with the two mainstream parties..I hope they at least give an extra two hundred million on top of whats planned, to finally start to aleviate the housing crisis.. Ok....this is in no way directed at the op on this... Housing crisis....there are 200 thousand vacant or abandoned homes in ireland....now there are between 10 and 11 thousand homeless here...so what crisis... Are you a radical from take back the city group these properies belong to people, have you any solution to how this could be done.. Im far from a radical.theres actually more than 200 thousand...theres an extra 62 thousand holiday homes..those propertys are abandoned...or defaulted...or owned by banks.. Make rent affordable is one thing...council houses that are affordable and meet the requirements of the people... If only it was that easy. Alot, granted not all, of the familes that are homeless at the moment will not leave the cities and towns they are located in to live in holiday homes and rural areas. And even if they did the small amount of support systems they currently have would be gone. A home is only half a solution if they then cannot afford food, clothing and education. I am in no way professing to be an expert and I dont have any better solutions, I think calling it a housing crisis is misleading we have much deeper problems than just getting these people accomodation anywhere at all. The homeless crisis are not my words, but peter mcverrys..im certainly no expert on these matters, but i am inclined to listen to a man of his experience in trying to deal with these issues over a life time..i think we might at least agree, that for the four thousand children in emergency accomodation, it is a crisis.. Its an absolute disgrace. What I ment was the crisis is alot bigger than just housing, therefore just concentrating on housing alone wont solve it I get you, i came across an interesting initiative last week, within the various county councils..each new tenant receiving keys to their new home are also required to liase with a worker from one of the ngos, focus ireland, simon community etc, on a weekly basis for a minimum of three months, longer if necessary. Within this, there supported, with getting children into schools, changing doctors etc etc, whatever needs they may have in fact, similar to the wrap around service your highlighting, i think.." Ya thats it exactly, well that and preventing people getting into that position in the first place. Do some work with Simon in Cork offering free leisure services to people in temp accomodation, they do amazing work but are so stretched its scary | |||
"Id love to see the introduction of a wealth tax once and for all, but unfortunately that wont happen with the two mainstream parties..I hope they at least give an extra two hundred million on top of whats planned, to finally start to aleviate the housing crisis..the majority of people dont give a fuck about the housing crisis they would rather see income tax cuts. You will always get people more interested in serving their own needs, such is fab " Why shouldn’t they serve their own needs? Middle class Ireland has contributed enough since 2008 time to give them a break. | |||
"Id love to see the introduction of a wealth tax once and for all, but unfortunately that wont happen with the two mainstream parties..I hope they at least give an extra two hundred million on top of whats planned, to finally start to aleviate the housing crisis.. Ok....this is in no way directed at the op on this... Housing crisis....there are 200 thousand vacant or abandoned homes in ireland....now there are between 10 and 11 thousand homeless here...so what crisis... Are you a radical from take back the city group these properies belong to people, have you any solution to how this could be done.. Im far from a radical.theres actually more than 200 thousand...theres an extra 62 thousand holiday homes..those propertys are abandoned...or defaulted...or owned by banks.. Make rent affordable is one thing...council houses that are affordable and meet the requirements of the people... If only it was that easy. Alot, granted not all, of the familes that are homeless at the moment will not leave the cities and towns they are located in to live in holiday homes and rural areas. And even if they did the small amount of support systems they currently have would be gone. A home is only half a solution if they then cannot afford food, clothing and education. I am in no way professing to be an expert and I dont have any better solutions, I think calling it a housing crisis is misleading we have much deeper problems than just getting these people accomodation anywhere at all. The homeless crisis are not my words, but peter mcverrys..im certainly no expert on these matters, but i am inclined to listen to a man of his experience in trying to deal with these issues over a life time..i think we might at least agree, that for the four thousand children in emergency accomodation, it is a crisis.. Its an absolute disgrace. What I ment was the crisis is alot bigger than just housing, therefore just concentrating on housing alone wont solve it I get you, i came across an interesting initiative last week, within the various county councils..each new tenant receiving keys to their new home are also required to liase with a worker from one of the ngos, focus ireland, simon community etc, on a weekly basis for a minimum of three months, longer if necessary. Within this, there supported, with getting children into schools, changing doctors etc etc, whatever needs they may have in fact, similar to the wrap around service your highlighting, i think.. Ya thats it exactly, well that and preventing people getting into that position in the first place. Do some work with Simon in Cork offering free leisure services to people in temp accomodation, they do amazing work but are so stretched its scary" I wholeheartedly agree, i was part of an audit team within their service, i have to say one of the top organisations i have come across, not only for the amazing work they do, but also their professionalism throughout the organisation. Completely restored my faith in these organisations.. | |||
"Id love to see the introduction of a wealth tax once and for all, but unfortunately that wont happen with the two mainstream parties..I hope they at least give an extra two hundred million on top of whats planned, to finally start to aleviate the housing crisis..the majority of people dont give a fuck about the housing crisis they would rather see income tax cuts. You will always get people more interested in serving their own needs, such is fab Why shouldn’t they serve their own needs? Middle class Ireland has contributed enough since 2008 time to give them a break. " Im not suggesting they shouldnt, as part of that middle class who contributed to the upturn in the economy, im just more conscious than ever of what we are capable of as a society... | |||
"Id love to see the introduction of a wealth tax once and for all, but unfortunately that wont happen with the two mainstream parties..I hope they at least give an extra two hundred million on top of whats planned, to finally start to aleviate the housing crisis..the majority of people dont give a fuck about the housing crisis they would rather see income tax cuts." But income tax is supposed to be getting cut.... | |||