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"lol
remember italia 90 ????"
I remember it well. For it was a fine summer. The evenings were long. The drying was.mighty. The smell of desperate dan bars on every street corner and it midst of it all arose a dream. For t'was a mystical few weeks where a nation rose as one for a foreign game ! We rejoiced as men born not in the emerald isle pulled on the green jersey as if it were the fulfillment of their destinies. Bonner.. McGrath...O'Leary... Houghton...Cascarino... McCarthy gave us a beautiful moment on the world stage. We will never forget the moments that led us to dream. |
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Having lots of cousins and extended family born in the UK I think of them as Irish. It's quite offensive to diss their Irish heritage and love for this country. When some one of Irish heritage is half decent at anything we don't belong in claiming them as one of our own.
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remember italia 90 ????
I remember it well. For it was a fine summer. The evenings were long. The drying was.mighty. The smell of desperate dan bars on every street corner and it midst of it all arose a dream. For t'was a mystical few weeks where a nation rose as one for a foreign game ! We rejoiced as men born not in the emerald isle pulled on the green jersey as if it were the fulfillment of their destinies. Bonner.. McGrath...O'Leary... Houghton...Cascarino... McCarthy gave us a beautiful moment on the world stage. We will never forget the moments that led us to dream. "
Is that the Tony cascarino who later said in his autobiography "I didn't qualify for Ireland. I was a fraud. A fake Irishman".
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"lol
remember italia 90 ????
I remember it well. For it was a fine summer. The evenings were long. The drying was.mighty. The smell of desperate dan bars on every street corner and it midst of it all arose a dream. For t'was a mystical few weeks where a nation rose as one for a foreign game ! We rejoiced as men born not in the emerald isle pulled on the green jersey as if it were the fulfillment of their destinies. Bonner.. McGrath...O'Leary... Houghton...Cascarino... McCarthy gave us a beautiful moment on the world stage. We will never forget the moments that led us to dream.
Is that the Tony cascarino who later said in his autobiography "I didn't qualify for Ireland. I was a fraud. A fake Irishman".
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Did he ? I'll have to confess I didn't know that. |
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"its a joke term
im very proud of my heritage "
From my time in London, my recollection is that anyone born in England, who's parents were Irish, is a Plastic Paddy.
Regardless, still be proud of your heritage, just like all the other nationalities in England who hold their roots up high and celebrate them.
Unfortunately for you, the National in Kilburn is no more, so you'll not likely experience the ladies all one side, fellas the other, the walk of destiny to ask for a dance and the chance of a shift
Hope the Mean Fiddlsr is still going in Harlesden |
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i dont think those clubs are still open in london.
i live in manchester. there are stil a few irish bars and clubs but the clubs are few and far between . but always good music. it lives on ,on my ipod |
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If you were Liam Gallagher or Morrissey people here would bend over backwards to claim you as Irish but if your just an ordinary joe soap they are dismissive of you. Quite disrespectful of the hundreds of thousands of Irish that had to go to the UK and further afield. People are often quick to forget that they were no jobs or social welfare as we know it for for generations esp in rural Ireland.
Irish ancestry is often what spurs investment in this country not just the tax system. MBNA built it's European head quarters in Carrick on Shannon as opposed to Poland or India because the top guys parents came from Carrick and he wanted to give something back before he retired. And if any of us here had to leave to f8nd work tomorrow esp in UK or US we would be given preference as Irish by a lot of 2nd generation Irish (something I know from first hand exp) |
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"If you were Liam Gallagher or Morrissey people here would bend over backwards to claim you as Irish but if your just an ordinary joe soap they are dismissive of you. Quite disrespectful of the hundreds of thousands of Irish that had to go to the UK and further afield. People are often quick to forget that they were no jobs or social welfare as we know it for for generations esp in rural Ireland.
Irish ancestry is often what spurs investment in this country not just the tax system. MBNA built it's European head quarters in Carrick on Shannon as opposed to Poland or India because the top guys parents came from Carrick and he wanted to give something back before he retired. And if any of us here had to leave to f8nd work tomorrow esp in UK or US we would be given preference as Irish by a lot of 2nd generation Irish (something I know from first hand exp)"
Lots of serious businesses diverted to Irl because of ancestry. |
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"lol
remember italia 90 ????
I remember it well. For it was a fine summer. The evenings were long. The drying was.mighty. The smell of desperate dan bars on every street corner and it midst of it all arose a dream. For t'was a mystical few weeks where a nation rose as one for a foreign game ! We rejoiced as men born not in the emerald isle pulled on the green jersey as if it were the fulfillment of their destinies. Bonner.. McGrath...O'Leary... Houghton...Cascarino... McCarthy gave us a beautiful moment on the world stage. We will never forget the moments that led us to dream.
Is that the Tony cascarino who later said in his autobiography "I didn't qualify for Ireland. I was a fraud. A fake Irishman".
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No he thought he wasn’t eligable because he was adopted, but being adopted was never an issue. So he was elible regardless |
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You will always get people who scoff at your Irishnes, one thing that does irritate me is the footballers who have never felt Irish or been interested in Ireland but play for Ireland because they know they will never get picked by England. At present we have Declan rice who doesn't know what he wants, if he isn't sure if he wants to play for Ireland or not the invitation should be revoked for ever |
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remember italia 90 ????
I remember it well. For it was a fine summer. The evenings were long. The drying was.mighty. The smell of desperate dan bars on every street corner and it midst of it all arose a dream. For t'was a mystical few weeks where a nation rose as one for a foreign game ! We rejoiced as men born not in the emerald isle pulled on the green jersey as if it were the fulfillment of their destinies. Bonner.. McGrath...O'Leary... Houghton...Cascarino... McCarthy gave us a beautiful moment on the world stage. We will never forget the moments that led us to dream.
Is that the Tony cascarino who later said in his autobiography "I didn't qualify for Ireland. I was a fraud. A fake Irishman".
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No he thought he wasn’t eligable because he was adopted, but being adopted was never an issue. So he was elible regardless " actually to correct that, his mother was adopted, but he still was eligible regardless |
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Born in UK of Irish parents...nailed my colours to the mast (green) from an early age and was called a "paddy" for doing so, which was great.... We moved back to Ireland while a teenager and was called a "Brit".....not so great.
Some of the greatest celebrations of being Irish occur outside of Ireland... Every year there are hundreds of applications made by "immigrants" to become Irish citizens, and in a world where we now have to be "PC", does that start a whole new batch of tags/titles and debate.... I have an Irish passport which didn't require any extra paperwork and when I look at it, my nationality isn't "plastic paddy" lol....where I must draw the line however.... Americans who come over to trace their irish ancestry because they found a red hair on their head lol |
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"So your english then.. "
I always gain pleasure in seeing people who attempt to be sarcastic and being an online bully make a fool of themselves by displaying their poor grasp of the English language. (‘....So your english then’). To the online bully, the correct spelling of the word is ‘You’re’ in the context of your attempted bullying.
Do try to keep up!
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"If you were Liam Gallagher or Morrissey people here would bend over backwards to claim you as Irish but if your just an ordinary joe soap they are dismissive of you. Quite disrespectful of the hundreds of thousands of Irish that had to go to the UK and further afield. People are often quick to forget that they were no jobs or social welfare as we know it for for generations esp in rural Ireland.
Irish ancestry is often what spurs investment in this country not just the tax system. MBNA built it's European head quarters in Carrick on Shannon as opposed to Poland or India because the top guys parents came from Carrick and he wanted to give something back before he retired. And if any of us here had to leave to f8nd work tomorrow esp in UK or US we would be given preference as Irish by a lot of 2nd generation Irish (something I know from first hand exp)
Lots of serious businesses diverted to Irl because of ancestry."
And her I was thinking it was all for tax purposes |
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"So your english then..
I always gain pleasure in seeing people who attempt to be sarcastic and being an online bully make a fool of themselves by displaying their poor grasp of the English language. (‘....So your english then’). To the online bully, the correct spelling of the word is ‘You’re’ in the context of your attempted bullying.
Do try to keep up!
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ok, fell on face with the grammar thing, but would "bully" be too harsh?? |
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"So your english then..
I always gain pleasure in seeing people who attempt to be sarcastic and being an online bully make a fool of themselves by displaying their poor grasp of the English language. (‘....So your english then’). To the online bully, the correct spelling of the word is ‘You’re’ in the context of your attempted bullying.
Do try to keep up!
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Well I don't mind the grammar but the sentiment is clear. These are the same people who will support Liverpool etc because they had Irish legends like Aldridge et al |
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"So your english then..
I always gain pleasure in seeing people who attempt to be sarcastic and being an online bully make a fool of themselves by displaying their poor grasp of the English language. (‘....So your english then’). To the online bully, the correct spelling of the word is ‘You’re’ in the context of your attempted bullying.
Do try to keep up!
ok, fell on face with the grammar thing, but would "bully" be too harsh?? "
I take your point.
Perhaps she’s simply an online troll with poor spelling abilities |
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"So your english then..
I always gain pleasure in seeing people who attempt to be sarcastic and being an online bully make a fool of themselves by displaying their poor grasp of the English language. (‘....So your english then’). To the online bully, the correct spelling of the word is ‘You’re’ in the context of your attempted bullying.
Do try to keep up!
Well I don't mind the grammar but the sentiment is clear. These are the same people who will support Liverpool etc because they had Irish legends like Aldridge et al"
I’m not normally one to jump on people for their poor spelling (There/They’re/Their) etc , but when they are simply being sarcastic, it’s fun to draw attention to their poor grasp of the English language.
I absolutely agree with you regarding your English football comment, never ceases to amaze me. However I could not be guilty of such a thing, as I wouldn’t know one end of a football from another |
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"Born in UK of Irish parents...nailed my colours to the mast (green) from an early age and was called a "paddy" for doing so, which was great.... We moved back to Ireland while a teenager and was called a "Brit".....not so great.
Some of the greatest celebrations of being Irish occur outside of Ireland... Every year there are hundreds of applications made by "immigrants" to become Irish citizens, and in a world where we now have to be "PC", does that start a whole new batch of tags/titles and debate.... I have an Irish passport which didn't require any extra paperwork and when I look at it, my nationality isn't "plastic paddy" lol....where I must draw the line however.... Americans who come over to trace their irish ancestry because they found a red hair on their head lol" my nieces mother is Chinese and her dad is Irish and she says she’s Irish and her mother is Chinese . So funny .... and she doesn’t live here . She’s only 5 |
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I was born in UK to Irish born parents but Christened in Ireland.
I have always identified as Irish, my family tree is well rooted in Irish soil.
Goddam lack of employment during the 80's in this country haha.
If you have a solid enough Irish ancestry than your Irish in my eyes simple as, but if you have a couple of skipped generations of being born in Ireland than you cant really claim being truly Irish?? You are of Irish Descent alright but not a full Irish, just my 2 cents! |
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"very strong irish roots. love the culture.i play trad irish music and my fone ringtone is the pogues. another great irish man born in kent ??"
Was a great documentary series on tg4 about the influence of Irish on mainstream British culture focusing on music. Listed all the musicians of Irish parentage from Kevin Roland to Jonny marr(maher) to boy George and Kate bush |
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manchester band the smiths were all of irish parentage. formed a band when irishness was not good in the 80s.
marr was called maher ! mike joyce family from galway. they performed first ever tour in ireland |
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It was a good watch and quite informative. Apparently the boy George edition of who do you think you are in a good one. They had an actress from Birmingham who starered in Harry potter amongst other things on and they delved into her mother's side as her mother was a mayo woman. Also a good watch |
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"yes i watched that too. boy georges history sent shivers thru me. singing kevin barry in the pub .
lee mack commedian was another good one .traced his grandad back to ballina."
So did David moyles family come from mayo. But ye can keep that cunt as he is far from entertaining |
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Irish people can get real snooty about this kind of stuff.
An african person goes to school here and he is Irish, but a genetically Irish person gets born in UK and they are not Irish.
Unless the person abroad does well, then they are Irish again. People falling over themselves to claim Obama etc.
But every country is the same, The English will claim people who do well all the time etc. |
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"I was born in UK to Irish born parents but Christened in Ireland.
I have always identified as Irish, my family tree is well rooted in Irish soil.
Goddam lack of employment during the 80's in this country haha.
If you have a solid enough Irish ancestry than your Irish in my eyes simple as, but if you have a couple of skipped generations of being born in Ireland than you cant really claim being truly Irish?? You are of Irish Descent alright but not a full Irish, just my 2 cents!"
My thoughts as well born in England to Irish parents
The English aristocracy born in Ireland many dark years ago never classed them self as irish |
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It's a personal decision for people depending post of factors.
I've worked with guys in the UK whose parents were Irish but they consider themselves English full stop, they never had any family in Ireland so never came over and never had much Irish culture in their lives.
People identify with what they know. |
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"If you were Liam Gallagher or Morrissey people here would bend over backwards to claim you as Irish but if your just an ordinary joe soap they are dismissive of you. Quite disrespectful of the hundreds of thousands of Irish that had to go to the UK and further afield. People are often quick to forget that they were no jobs or social welfare as we know it for for generations esp in rural Ireland.
Irish ancestry is often what spurs investment in this country not just the tax system. MBNA built it's European head quarters in Carrick on Shannon as opposed to Poland or India because the top guys parents came from Carrick and he wanted to give something back before he retired. And if any of us here had to leave to f8nd work tomorrow esp in UK or US we would be given preference as Irish by a lot of 2nd generation Irish (something I know from first hand exp)" |
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