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"OK guys yes or no,I'm on the yes side" Its a yes from us....get your ass out and vote!!! | |||
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"This topic has given me the best laugh in weeks on social media and facebook, Women actually think they're being given a choice with all their repeal the 8th shite, it's the government who will have a say over their bodies! My body my choice=Rubbish! Abortion is murder! It's a no from me " Your post is a load of bull and the fact you find it hilarious says a lot about you. | |||
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"This topic has given me the best laugh in weeks on social media and facebook, Women actually think they're being given a choice with all their repeal the 8th shite, it's the government who will have a say over their bodies! My body my choice=Rubbish! Abortion is murder! It's a no from me Your post is a load of bull and the fact you find it hilarious says a lot about you." | |||
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"If they choose to have a baby in poverty, can I choose to not pay taxes to support them? No from me, re-run it and do it properly, enter it into the constitution and not common law." what utter rubbish are u talking about ffs is that it thats ur reason i think u should go get educated on the issue in hand | |||
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"If they choose to have a baby in poverty, can I choose to not pay taxes to support them? No from me, re-run it and do it properly, enter it into the constitution and not common law." And should we also put it into the constitution that u have to be upper middle class or better to have a baby | |||
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"Has anyone seen the pic of the No-campaigner with the placard 'yes-voters, you should have been aborted'? the hypocrisy is hilarious. " "I'm against abortions, unless in certain cases....wait that means I actually want to repeal!" *Head explodes* | |||
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"OK guys yes or no,I'm on the yes side" Definitely big YES from me. Look back to the 1960 etc what horrible things were happening back here in Ireland, such as Magdalen’s laundries and other sick like institutions and people will make a fuss about the abortion now ? All woman’s finally get the right of choice to do what they wants with their own body! | |||
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"Has anyone seen the pic of the No-campaigner with the placard 'yes-voters, you should have been aborted'? the hypocrisy is hilarious. " Saw that alright. It’s interesting that as we get closer to the vote the No campaign gets more and more desperate and in the end all they have left are insults and brutal behaviour. They’re control freaks who realise they’re in danger of losing that control and they don’t like it one little bit. | |||
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"OK guys yes or no,I'm on the yes side Definitely big YES from me. Look back to the 1960 etc what horrible things were happening back here in Ireland, such as Magdalen’s laundries and other sick like institutions and people will make a fuss about the abortion now ? All woman’s finally get the right of choice to do what they wants with their own body! " Declan Ganley said on live TV last night that ‘we’ve always done well by mothers and children in this country’...and amazingly he kept a straight face! It’s just farcical stuff from them at this stage. | |||
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"Has anyone seen the pic of the No-campaigner with the placard 'yes-voters, you should have been aborted'? the hypocrisy is hilarious. Saw that alright. It’s interesting that as we get closer to the vote the No campaign gets more and more desperate and in the end all they have left are insults and brutal behaviour. They’re control freaks who realise they’re in danger of losing that control and they don’t like it one little bit. " There are some on the extreme end of the No side that would go after the right to travel or even contraception if they win tomorrow. If that's not frightening I don't know what is. | |||
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"On Friday we will be asked to repeal the 8th amendment. If we do we will allow this government and subsequent governments to legislate for the termination of pregnancy in this country. So this vote is not about trusting the women of Ireland , its about trusting the government. Irish women will not decide the legislation politicians will. So we are being asked to trust them to do right by pregnant women and the unborn. We are being asked to trust a government, who promised to end homelessness, to fix the trolley crisis, who when they found out about the cervical check disaster there 1st step was to legislate to cover their own arses not to help those affected ......the list goes on. So yes I find it hilarious!" That's a seriously bizarre way of looking at it!! Clutching at straws at this stage I think. I'd rather trust our government to put in place the services for decent, deserved medical care for abortions instead of exporting our women and girls to England and allowing their government 'look after' us. | |||
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"On Friday we will be asked to repeal the 8th amendment. If we do we will allow this government and subsequent governments to legislate for the termination of pregnancy in this country. So this vote is not about trusting the women of Ireland , its about trusting the government. Irish women will not decide the legislation politicians will. So we are being asked to trust them to do right by pregnant women and the unborn. We are being asked to trust a government, who promised to end homelessness, to fix the trolley crisis, who when they found out about the cervical check disaster there 1st step was to legislate to cover their own arses not to help those affected ......the list goes on. So yes I find it hilarious!" So exactly how will women be trusted to make their own decision when they're currently not allowed to have a choice? | |||
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"On Friday we will be asked to repeal the 8th amendment. If we do we will allow this government and subsequent governments to legislate for the termination of pregnancy in this country. So this vote is not about trusting the women of Ireland , its about trusting the government. Irish women will not decide the legislation politicians will. So we are being asked to trust them to do right by pregnant women and the unborn. We are being asked to trust a government, who promised to end homelessness, to fix the trolley crisis, who when they found out about the cervical check disaster there 1st step was to legislate to cover their own arses not to help those affected ......the list goes on. So yes I find it hilarious!" If you're mistrusting the government that much you've to ask yourself who voted them in. No government with some sense would come up with extreme abortion laws, respectively going from one extreme to another. So it's all scaremongering. | |||
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"And should we also put it into the constitution that u have to be upper middle class or better to have a baby " Well you are the ones voting yes, not me. I think the state should pay for every baby and everyone should be protected. If you vote that away, then why expect the tax payer to step in and protect you? you voted the protection away??? | |||
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"what utter rubbish are u talking about ffs is that it thats ur reason i think u should go get educated on the issue in hand " Educate me so, some simple questions for you. 1) Will the 12 weeks be locked in place and never be moved? 2) Will people who choose to have a baby be protected? 3) If a baby is lost due to negligence can the mother get recompense? 4) 3-4 women have been murdered for getting pregnant and not aborting in the last 10 years, what protections for women against undue pressure from men is in the law? 5) Will the law allow children who have been forced into pregnancy to hide it from their parents? 6) If a pregnant woman is the victim of an assault and the baby dies, will it be prosecuted as murder or assault? 7) Will Donegal get an abortion clinic before a cancer clinic? 8) Are women already aborting down syndrome babies at a rate of 50% in the matter and 56% in the rotunda? 9) If you have any limits on your views of abortion, can they be locked in place in law? | |||
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"And should we also put it into the constitution that u have to be upper middle class or better to have a baby Well you are the ones voting yes, not me. I think the state should pay for every baby and everyone should be protected. If you vote that away, then why expect the tax payer to step in and protect you? you voted the protection away???" Why muddy the issue by dragging social welfare system in to it, it has nothing to do with the question being asked | |||
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"And should we also put it into the constitution that u have to be upper middle class or better to have a baby Well you are the ones voting yes, not me. I think the state should pay for every baby and everyone should be protected. If you vote that away, then why expect the tax payer to step in and protect you? you voted the protection away???" so ur saying have the baby let the government pay for it cos its their job to protect the baby and ppl. and the womans mental health during the unwanted pregnancy and the after care are the government gonna pay for that too. and what about the after care of those who come back from england after an abortion who cares for them or the the girls scared and alone delievering a baby along and then abandom them who cares for those. | |||
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"Your believing all the propaganda from the yes campaign. Posters with guns at babies heads they find this horrific but ripped up bodily parts of babies are upsetting! Abortions are upsetting they're horrific.. "But they're not real, they're not humans they're fetuses"(argument from the yes supporters,does that helps you sleep better at night.) And ask yourself why over 80% of doctors and nurses refuse to sign the proposed legislation where they will have preform terminations. It's murder plain and simple." Most doctors are advocating a yes vote. | |||
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" And ask yourself why over 80% of doctors and nurses refuse to sign the proposed legislation where they will have preform terminations. It's murder plain and simple." You are wrong. http://www.thejournal.ie/how-many-doctors-support-repeal-4030792-May2018/?amp=1#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s | |||
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"Has anyone seen the pic of the No-campaigner with the placard 'yes-voters, you should have been aborted'? the hypocrisy is hilarious. "I'm against abortions, unless in certain cases....wait that means I actually want to repeal!" *Head explodes*" that's the way alot are who I speak to. against abortion unless under certain circumstances | |||
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"Has anyone seen the pic of the No-campaigner with the placard 'yes-voters, you should have been aborted'? the hypocrisy is hilarious. "I'm against abortions, unless in certain cases....wait that means I actually want to repeal!" *Head explodes*that's the way alot are who I speak to. against abortion unless under certain circumstances " Then they should vote yes. | |||
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"Has anyone seen the pic of the No-campaigner with the placard 'yes-voters, you should have been aborted'? the hypocrisy is hilarious. "I'm against abortions, unless in certain cases....wait that means I actually want to repeal!" *Head explodes*that's the way alot are who I speak to. against abortion unless under certain circumstances " That position is both morally relativistic and realistically impractical. If one foetus has the right to life, they all have. But yes, a lot of people seem to think this way, and it will probably result in a lot of people not voting. | |||
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"what utter rubbish are u talking about ffs is that it thats ur reason i think u should go get educated on the issue in hand Educate me so, some simple questions for you. 1) Will the 12 weeks be locked in place and never be moved? 2) Will people who choose to have a baby be protected? 3) If a baby is lost due to negligence can the mother get recompense? 4) 3-4 women have been murdered for getting pregnant and not aborting in the last 10 years, what protections for women against undue pressure from men is in the law? 5) Will the law allow children who have been forced into pregnancy to hide it from their parents? 6) If a pregnant woman is the victim of an assault and the baby dies, will it be prosecuted as murder or assault? 7) Will Donegal get an abortion clinic before a cancer clinic? 8) Are women already aborting down syndrome babies at a rate of 50% in the matter and 56% in the rotunda? 9) If you have any limits on your views of abortion, can they be locked in place in law?" Donegal wont have an abortion clinic the very same doctors who look after their cancer patients will deal with a crises pregnancy. Repealing the 8th not remove all rights of the unborn. It simply give women back the right in limited circumstance to deal with a crises pregnancy here in Ireland. To equate the life of a foetus up to 12 weeks to that of the mother show a disregard for the lives and value of women. If men carried babies the amendment would never have been in place that I'm convinced of. | |||
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"Sperm isn't a baby. I'm afraid you need to go get yourself educated on the reproductive system. And for every link there's another link. https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.independent.ie/irish-news/abortion-referendum/twothirds-of-gps-will-refuse-to-provide-abortion-pills-36682050.html" You're picking and choosing what you want from that. The GPs don't believe it should be their decision and over 50% of them believe in repeal. | |||
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"On Friday we will be asked to repeal the 8th amendment. If we do we will allow this government and subsequent governments to legislate for the termination of pregnancy in this country. So this vote is not about trusting the women of Ireland , its about trusting the government. Irish women will not decide the legislation politicians will. So we are being asked to trust them to do right by pregnant women and the unborn. We are being asked to trust a government, who promised to end homelessness, to fix the trolley crisis, who when they found out about the cervical check disaster there 1st step was to legislate to cover their own arses not to help those affected ......the list goes on. So yes I find it hilarious! That's a seriously bizarre way of looking at it!! Clutching at straws at this stage I think. I'd rather trust our government to put in place the services for decent, deserved medical care for abortions instead of exporting our women and girls to England and allowing their government 'look after' us." Yeah the same government who got the cervical check so wrong.The Governement should have nothing to do with influencing anyone on this issue.Yes or No,it's the people's right to vote.As a society we can do better than this constant put down of one side or the other. | |||
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"On Friday we will be asked to repeal the 8th amendment. If we do we will allow this government and subsequent governments to legislate for the termination of pregnancy in this country. So this vote is not about trusting the women of Ireland , its about trusting the government. Irish women will not decide the legislation politicians will. So we are being asked to trust them to do right by pregnant women and the unborn. We are being asked to trust a government, who promised to end homelessness, to fix the trolley crisis, who when they found out about the cervical check disaster there 1st step was to legislate to cover their own arses not to help those affected ......the list goes on. So yes I find it hilarious! That's a seriously bizarre way of looking at it!! Clutching at straws at this stage I think. I'd rather trust our government to put in place the services for decent, deserved medical care for abortions instead of exporting our women and girls to England and allowing their government 'look after' us. Yeah the same government who got the cervical check so wrong.The Governement should have nothing to do with influencing anyone on this issue.Yes or No,it's the people's right to vote.As a society we can do better than this constant put down of one side or the other." The government is actively supporting repeal btw. | |||
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"Just as an aside.. I'm getting abusive msgs to my inbox here from No voters " Why does that not surprise me | |||
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" Yeah the same government who got the cervical check so wrong.The Governement should have nothing to do with influencing anyone on this issue.Yes or No,it's the people's right to vote.As a society we can do better than this constant put down of one side or the other." I was being a little bit tongue in cheek there as she had mentioned the government would have control of our bodies if the 8th is repealed which is bizarre.. there will be qualified medical professionals employed to give us the care we deserve here instead of brushing the issue under the carpet and exporting the 'problem'. I cannot understand a world where the life of an unborn is put ahead of the life of a woman or girl and for me that's at the crux of it, along with the right to choice. And I'm not just talking about the hard cases here. No abortion decision is taken lightly regardless of what the No side say and if a woman believes it's the right decision for her, I believe her and want her to be cared for by Ireland, not England. | |||
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"what utter rubbish are u talking about ffs is that it thats ur reason i think u should go get educated on the issue in hand Educate me so, some simple questions for you. 1) Will the 12 weeks be locked in place and never be moved? 2) Will people who choose to have a baby be protected? 3) If a baby is lost due to negligence can the mother get recompense? 4) 3-4 women have been murdered for getting pregnant and not aborting in the last 10 years, what protections for women against undue pressure from men is in the law? 5) Will the law allow children who have been forced into pregnancy to hide it from their parents? 6) If a pregnant woman is the victim of an assault and the baby dies, will it be prosecuted as murder or assault? 7) Will Donegal get an abortion clinic before a cancer clinic? 8) Are women already aborting down syndrome babies at a rate of 50% in the matter and 56% in the rotunda? 9) If you have any limits on your views of abortion, can they be locked in place in law?" since u googled the questions i suggest u google the answers. tis a far cry from ur poverty reason at least my comment has made u do some research which is what i wanted u to do | |||
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"Your believing all the propaganda from the yes campaign. Posters with guns at babies heads they find this horrific but ripped up bodily parts of babies are upsetting! Abortions are upsetting they're horrific.. "But they're not real, they're not humans they're fetuses"(argument from the yes supporters,does that helps you sleep better at night.) And ask yourself why over 80% of doctors and nurses refuse to sign the proposed legislation where they will have preform terminations. It's murder plain and simple." Taking stats out of your hole doesn’t meant they’re true | |||
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"On Friday we will be asked to repeal the 8th amendment. If we do we will allow this government and subsequent governments to legislate for the termination of pregnancy in this country. So this vote is not about trusting the women of Ireland , its about trusting the government. Irish women will not decide the legislation politicians will. So we are being asked to trust them to do right by pregnant women and the unborn. We are being asked to trust a government, who promised to end homelessness, to fix the trolley crisis, who when they found out about the cervical check disaster there 1st step was to legislate to cover their own arses not to help those affected ......the list goes on. So yes I find it hilarious!" | |||
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"I've thought long and hard about this. I'm for life...all life.. I cannot vote to end one or put one before another. I cannot resolve the r*pe question which is my stumbling block. I would like to have a healthcare system that will really support people who are in any crisis of any kind, so that everyone's lives are protected and cherished. I do not trust the majority of politicians...Fine Gael/Labour got my vote to " burn the bondholders " which afterwards they didn't. Maybe its a dream but I want the people present and future generations to have something better...we all deserve that . I'm voting "NO" and sending it back..in the hope of something better. " There won't be anything better for at least a decade if No wins. Repeal now. Ten more years of trips to the UK is unacceptable. | |||
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"When I read the terrible stories about the way Irish women have been treated by their own country, I always feel lucky to live in the UK and have safe, free access to reproductive healthcare. Fingers crossed Ireland now moves away from it's barbaric and torturous treatment and neglect of pregnant people. Good luck from Wales " Thank you! Unfortunately this site seems to be rife with people who don't believe women should have a right to choose what happens their own body. Which I find strange given the general ethos of this site. I honestly believe alot of it is down to education and how deep the Catholic church runs. | |||
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"Just like every debate on the issue one side is telling the other how wrong they are.In all honesty it would make you sick listing to you all trying to force you're opinions on others.Let people make up their own mind's and stop trying to ram your opinion down their throats." You have the right to choose to put an x in whichever box you want.. the same way I should have a right to choose what happens to my actual body. | |||
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"When I read the terrible stories about the way Irish women have been treated by their own country, I always feel lucky to live in the UK and have safe, free access to reproductive healthcare. Fingers crossed Ireland now moves away from it's barbaric and torturous treatment and neglect of pregnant people. Good luck from Wales Thank you! Unfortunately this site seems to be rife with people who don't believe women should have a right to choose what happens their own body. Which I find strange given the general ethos of this site. I honestly believe alot of it is down to education and how deep the Catholic church runs. " I agree with you. In my opinion anyone who thinks it is acceptable to force a person to give birth when they don't want to needs to be having a serious word with themselves. It is not the dark ages. Aa I said though, I am fortunate to live in a country where women are treated with the respect and dignity they deserve when accessing basic reproductive healthcare, and religion is kept out of medicine | |||
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"Just like every debate on the issue one side is telling the other how wrong they are.In all honesty it would make you sick listing to you all trying to force you're opinions on others.Let people make up their own mind's and stop trying to ram your opinion down their throats." Honestly this place and my group chat of 4 friends is the only place I've spoken about it. I've told loads I'm not voting (I am) but I'm sick to death of both sides at this stage. Especially sick of the idea that no voters are scum, they're not. I may be voting differently to some in my immediate family and friends but they're still my friends at the end of the day. This shit of people posting "if you vote this way delete me from your friends list as I refuse to be friends with a such and such" fucking dickheads. You're not a better person if you vote yes or if you vote no. If you think you are you're a fool. People have strong beliefs even without being religious. | |||
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"The casual use of the word ‘murder’ by a person on this thread is absolutely disgraceful. You need help. " It just shows pure lack of medical and scientific understanding. Educating people correctly would be a start, but Catholicism is a massive part of that problem | |||
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"Just like every debate on the issue one side is telling the other how wrong they are.In all honesty it would make you sick listing to you all trying to force you're opinions on others.Let people make up their own mind's and stop trying to ram your opinion down their throats. Honestly this place and my group chat of 4 friends is the only place I've spoken about it. I've told loads I'm not voting (I am) but I'm sick to death of both sides at this stage. Especially sick of the idea that no voters are scum, they're not. I may be voting differently to some in my immediate family and friends but they're still my friends at the end of the day. This shit of people posting "if you vote this way delete me from your friends list as I refuse to be friends with a such and such" fucking dickheads. You're not a better person if you vote yes or if you vote no. If you think you are you're a fool. People have strong beliefs even without being religious. " | |||
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"I hate the amount of misinformation being spread about this. The 8th amendment equates the life of an unborn child to the life of the mother. This means that unless the mother's life is in danger, the foetus can't be aborted. Do any No voters remember Savita Halappanavar? She died because the law equated her unborn child's life to hers. Women in this country are forced to carry babies to term even when it's been medically proven that they will die as soon as they're born. R*pe survivors are expected to carry any pregnancies resulting from their trauma. The fact is that abortion happens in this country anyway, either through illegal means like pills or through the continued exporting of the issue to the UK. A No vote is basically a vote to continue this. I'd urge any No voters to go to FB and search for the page In Her Shoes; it's full of stories about the devastation the 8th amendment has caused, from people who wanted their children very much but had no choice to get rid of them, to people who were r*ped or just not ready. There's a whole spectrum. I'm voting Yes because I want women in this country to get the healthcare they need." Well said. | |||
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"Just like every debate on the issue one side is telling the other how wrong they are.In all honesty it would make you sick listing to you all trying to force you're opinions on others.Let people make up their own mind's and stop trying to ram your opinion down their throats. You have the right to choose to put an x in whichever box you want.. the same way I should have a right to choose what happens to my actual body. " Yes your choice so let's all have our choice how we vote. Yes or no its each individuals choice. | |||
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"out off the 3000 plus women go out 2 England and else where I wonder how many are hard cases, an how many are social, example bad timing " What difference does it make? We are entitled to terminations for social and finincial reasons here, not just in extreme circumstances. We are very fortunate to have sensible laws in the UK | |||
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"Just like every debate on the issue one side is telling the other how wrong they are.In all honesty it would make you sick listing to you all trying to force you're opinions on others.Let people make up their own mind's and stop trying to ram your opinion down their throats. Honestly this place and my group chat of 4 friends is the only place I've spoken about it. I've told loads I'm not voting (I am) but I'm sick to death of both sides at this stage. Especially sick of the idea that no voters are scum, they're not. I may be voting differently to some in my immediate family and friends but they're still my friends at the end of the day. This shit of people posting "if you vote this way delete me from your friends list as I refuse to be friends with a such and such" fucking dickheads. You're not a better person if you vote yes or if you vote no. If you think you are you're a fool. People have strong beliefs even without being religious. " Well said. | |||
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"I don't know enough about the UK laws but over there can you book an abortion and have one under any circumstances?" Yep up to 24 weeks Social or financial reasons come under the bit about not damaging the physical or mental health of the woman or any existing children | |||
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"I don't know enough about the UK laws but over there can you book an abortion and have one under any circumstances?" Yes.. up to 6 months. Like the vast majority of the rest of the developed counties of the world. | |||
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"Murder definition/the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another. " An embryo/foetus under 24 weeks has no human rights in the UK Fingers crossed the Irish will see sense soon | |||
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"I don't know enough about the UK laws but over there can you book an abortion and have one under any circumstances? Yes.. up to 6 months. Like the vast majority of the rest of the developed counties of the world." Don't you think six months is very advanced stage for abortion.Except maybe is a life or death situation. | |||
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"I don't know enough about the UK laws but over there can you book an abortion and have one under any circumstances? Yes.. up to 6 months. Like the vast majority of the rest of the developed counties of the world. Don't you think six months is very advanced stage for abortion.Except maybe is a life or death situation." Very few terminations are actually carried out at this stage Mainly in cases of foetal abnormaloties which cannot be detected prior to a 20 week scan hence why the 24 week limit of vital to allow women choice should a 20 week scan deliver heartbreaking news | |||
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"I don't know enough about the UK laws but over there can you book an abortion and have one under any circumstances? Yes.. up to 6 months. Like the vast majority of the rest of the developed counties of the world. Don't you think six months is very advanced stage for abortion.Except maybe is a life or death situation." No I genuinely don't. And the proposed new legislation for Ireland is 3 months not 6. | |||
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"I don't know enough about the UK laws but over there can you book an abortion and have one under any circumstances? Yes.. up to 6 months. Like the vast majority of the rest of the developed counties of the world. Don't you think six months is very advanced stage for abortion.Except maybe is a life or death situation. No I genuinely don't. And the proposed new legislation for Ireland is 3 months not 6." Would the new legislation allow terminations at a later stage for foetal abormalities detected at the usual 20 week anomally scan?? I am assuming it is just abortion on demand that is limited to 12 weeks?? Xx | |||
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"as a chap said on Facebook today "why the fuck am I even commenting on this, it doesn't affect me". got a lot of smiley/laughing faces " You're some piece of work snickers. And yeah I know I'm rising to your reactionary posts. But Jesus Christ man. I hope you never have to deal with a crisis pregnancy. | |||
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"I don't know enough about the UK laws but over there can you book an abortion and have one under any circumstances? Yes.. up to 6 months. Like the vast majority of the rest of the developed counties of the world. Don't you think six months is very advanced stage for abortion.Except maybe is a life or death situation. No I genuinely don't. And the proposed new legislation for Ireland is 3 months not 6." Well a baby can survive after 22 weeks. So I would think it is very advanced for abortion except in very exceptional circumstance. | |||
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" Would the new legislation allow terminations at a later stage for foetal abormalities detected at the usual 20 week anomally scan?? I am assuming it is just abortion on demand that is limited to 12 weeks?? Xx" Yes more than likely it just isn't drafted yet. The assumption is we would have similar laws to those of most of the rest of the developed world. | |||
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"I don't know enough about the UK laws but over there can you book an abortion and have one under any circumstances? Yes.. up to 6 months. Like the vast majority of the rest of the developed counties of the world. Don't you think six months is very advanced stage for abortion.Except maybe is a life or death situation. No I genuinely don't. And the proposed new legislation for Ireland is 3 months not 6. Well a baby can survive after 22 weeks. So I would think it is very advanced for abortion except in very exceptional circumstance." It would mainly be for medical reasons at such a late stage | |||
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"I don't know enough about the UK laws but over there can you book an abortion and have one under any circumstances? Yes.. up to 6 months. Like the vast majority of the rest of the developed counties of the world. Don't you think six months is very advanced stage for abortion.Except maybe is a life or death situation. No I genuinely don't. And the proposed new legislation for Ireland is 3 months not 6. Well a baby can survive after 22 weeks. So I would think it is very advanced for abortion except in very exceptional circumstance. It would mainly be for medical reasons at such a late stage " Well I would hope so. | |||
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"Murder definition/the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another. " When in your opinion does a fetus become a human being? | |||
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"I don't know enough about the UK laws but over there can you book an abortion and have one under any circumstances? Yes.. up to 6 months. Like the vast majority of the rest of the developed counties of the world. Don't you think six months is very advanced stage for abortion.Except maybe is a life or death situation. No I genuinely don't. And the proposed new legislation for Ireland is 3 months not 6. Well a baby can survive after 22 weeks. So I would think it is very advanced for abortion except in very exceptional circumstance. It would mainly be for medical reasons at such a late stage Well I would hope so." I would have thought that most women would have made a decision to terminate a lot sooner than that for other reasons, unless for example they were very far into their pregnancy before discovering they were pregnant. | |||
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"Murder definition/the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another. When in your opinion does a fetus become a human being?" Those are the shit arguments that put me off listening to debates.Because everyone becomes an expert in something they known feck all about. | |||
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"An embryo/foetus under 24 weeks has no human rights in the UK Thankfully as Irish people we have better consciences. " Thankfully as British people we have more compassion and respect for our women, so our consciences are clear | |||
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"An embryo/foetus under 24 weeks has no human rights in the UK Thankfully as Irish people we have better consciences. Thankfully as British people we have more compassion and respect for our women, so our consciences are clear " Please let's not start an Irish v British debate.... Really not the place | |||
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"An embryo/foetus under 24 weeks has no human rights in the UK Thankfully as Irish people we have better consciences. Thankfully as British people we have more compassion and respect for our women, so our consciences are clear Please let's not start an Irish v British debate.... Really not the place " My apologies As I said earlier I am fortunate to live in a country with excellent, safe reproductive healthcare that cares for it's women. I love the Irish just not it's law | |||
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"An embryo/foetus under 24 weeks has no human rights in the UK Thankfully as Irish people we have better consciences. Thankfully as British people we have more compassion and respect for our women, so our consciences are clear Please let's not start an Irish v British debate.... Really not the place My apologies As I said earlier I am fortunate to live in a country with excellent, safe reproductive healthcare that cares for it's women. I love the Irish just not it's law " No worries haha just sometimes when it goes down that path it goes right down Ye do have a decent health care alright | |||
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"Terminating a 24 week old baby in the UK your full of compassion 90% of Down syndrome are terminated in the UK full of compassion Well you don't live here so don't stress " | |||
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"My womb . My body. My choice .... I’m voting yes " That is pretty much a brief and sensible reason Noone is voting to make abortion compulsory or to force anyone to have one Everyone who opposes abortion will still be as entitled to not have one exactly as they are now | |||
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" That downs thing is a total lie and how dare you bring it into this debate. Down syndrome Ireland asked at the start not to be dragged into this. The lies and false medical facts that have been thrown about in this referendum is disgusting and nothing short of criminal. It's disgusting that people go to such under handed lengths " Anti choicers are reknown for it unfortunately | |||
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"My womb . My body. My choice .... I’m voting yes That is pretty much a brief and sensible reason Noone is voting to make abortion compulsory or to force anyone to have one Everyone who opposes abortion will still be as entitled to not have one exactly as they are now " exactly | |||
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"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk. " How would expect a woman to prove it was conceived non consensually? I don't understand that | |||
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"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk. " Do you not understand how many risks to a womans health and potentially life pregnancy in itself can entail?? | |||
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"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk. How would expect a woman to prove it was conceived non consensually? I don't understand that" would a woman lie about been ra..ed? | |||
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"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk. Do you not understand how many risks to a womans health and potentially life pregnancy in itself can entail??" i heard that question been asked today elsewhere and the response was "don't get pregnant then". | |||
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"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk. How would expect a woman to prove it was conceived non consensually? I don't understand thatwould a woman lie about been ra..ed?" Would they have to do that in order to obtain an abortion in your ideal? How would a woman be expected to prove non consensual activity?? Or would it be up to the healthcare provider to try and disprove? I am asking out of genuine interest of how this kind of criteria would realistically be enforced | |||
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"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk. Do you not understand how many risks to a womans health and potentially life pregnancy in itself can entail??i heard that question been asked today elsewhere and the response was "don't get pregnant then". " Where would we all be then?? | |||
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"https://www.google.ie/amp/www.thejournal.ie/factcheck-babies-abortion-3823611-Feb2018/%3famp=1" If you even read that it's still saying pre natal diagnosis and the percentage of pre natal diagnosis isng is very slim. Also I wouldn't use the journal.ie as a reputable source of medical fact Also the reports don't seem available to read? I've tried following the link to no avail. I still find it sick to bring children with such conditions into this to further your agenda | |||
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"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk. How would expect a woman to prove it was conceived non consensually? I don't understand thatwould a woman lie about been ra..ed? Would they have to do that in order to obtain an abortion in your ideal? How would a woman be expected to prove non consensual activity?? Or would it be up to the healthcare provider to try and disprove? I am asking out of genuine interest of how this kind of criteria would realistically be enforced " I'm not a medical expert so I can't answer that. | |||
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"It's risky to cross the road these days. Or Have a opinion on a forum thread. Lol " I know You even get accused of murder for having a view Risky business aye | |||
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"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk. Do you not understand how many risks to a womans health and potentially life pregnancy in itself can entail??i heard that question been asked today elsewhere and the response was "don't get pregnant then". Where would we all be then??" I'm guessing the jist of the reply was, if you want a baby have one or try have one, if you don't,protect yourself and your partner against it. | |||
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"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk. How would expect a woman to prove it was conceived non consensually? I don't understand thatwould a woman lie about been ra..ed? Would they have to do that in order to obtain an abortion in your ideal? How would a woman be expected to prove non consensual activity?? Or would it be up to the healthcare provider to try and disprove? I am asking out of genuine interest of how this kind of criteria would realistically be enforced I'm not a medical expert so I can't answer that. " I didn't want a medical experts opinion I wondered how the people who hold this view believe it should be enforced, out of interest, as I cannot think of a feesible way. | |||
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"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk. How would expect a woman to prove it was conceived non consensually? I don't understand thatwould a woman lie about been ra..ed? Would they have to do that in order to obtain an abortion in your ideal? How would a woman be expected to prove non consensual activity?? Or would it be up to the healthcare provider to try and disprove? I am asking out of genuine interest of how this kind of criteria would realistically be enforced I'm not a medical expert so I can't answer that. " It can't be, particularly with the time constraints involved, which is why it has to be unrestricted in the early stage. | |||
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"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk. Do you not understand how many risks to a womans health and potentially life pregnancy in itself can entail??i heard that question been asked today elsewhere and the response was "don't get pregnant then". Where would we all be then??I'm guessing the jist of the reply was, if you want a baby have one or try have one, if you don't,protect yourself and your partner against it. " Do you not realise contraception can fail? No contraception is 100% foolproof, except abstinence, and with being on this site alone I highly doubt anyone practises that | |||
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"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk. How would expect a woman to prove it was conceived non consensually? I don't understand thatwould a woman lie about been ra..ed? Would they have to do that in order to obtain an abortion in your ideal? How would a woman be expected to prove non consensual activity?? Or would it be up to the healthcare provider to try and disprove? I am asking out of genuine interest of how this kind of criteria would realistically be enforced I'm not a medical expert so I can't answer that. I didn't want a medical experts opinion I wondered how the people who hold this view believe it should be enforced, out of interest, as I cannot think of a feesible way." i think alot would want to be mentally absurd to use r..e as a way of having an abortion. | |||
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"I think your womb is too old to harbour any babies so I think they're safe." 3 by 25 my uterus is in flat out retirement now honey | |||
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"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk. Do you not understand how many risks to a womans health and potentially life pregnancy in itself can entail??i heard that question been asked today elsewhere and the response was "don't get pregnant then". Where would we all be then??I'm guessing the jist of the reply was, if you want a baby have one or try have one, if you don't,protect yourself and your partner against it. Do you not realise contraception can fail? No contraception is 100% foolproof, except abstinence, and with being on this site alone I highly doubt anyone practises that " lol if contraception can fail I'd be a father to about 20 kiss by now . joking aside I think if both parties take care it's all good. I'm a freak where contraception is concerned | |||
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"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk. How would expect a woman to prove it was conceived non consensually? I don't understand thatwould a woman lie about been ra..ed? Would they have to do that in order to obtain an abortion in your ideal? How would a woman be expected to prove non consensual activity?? Or would it be up to the healthcare provider to try and disprove? I am asking out of genuine interest of how this kind of criteria would realistically be enforced I'm not a medical expert so I can't answer that. I didn't want a medical experts opinion I wondered how the people who hold this view believe it should be enforced, out of interest, as I cannot think of a feesible way.i think alot would want to be mentally absurd to use r..e as a way of having an abortion. " I think it would be mentally absurd to restrict abortion to such circumstances that some woman may feel they have to out of desperation | |||
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"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk. Do you not understand how many risks to a womans health and potentially life pregnancy in itself can entail??i heard that question been asked today elsewhere and the response was "don't get pregnant then". Where would we all be then??I'm guessing the jist of the reply was, if you want a baby have one or try have one, if you don't,protect yourself and your partner against it. Do you not realise contraception can fail? No contraception is 100% foolproof, except abstinence, and with being on this site alone I highly doubt anyone practises that lol if contraception can fail I'd be a father to about 20 kiss by now . joking aside I think if both parties take care it's all good. I'm a freak where contraception is concerned " Do you genuinely believe contraception is 100% reliable? | |||
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"Wasn't talking about your womb your only 32 you've loads of time. " Fuck that for a giraffe I've done my bit My cunt is a one way street now | |||
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"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk. Do you not understand how many risks to a womans health and potentially life pregnancy in itself can entail??i heard that question been asked today elsewhere and the response was "don't get pregnant then". Where would we all be then??I'm guessing the jist of the reply was, if you want a baby have one or try have one, if you don't,protect yourself and your partner against it. Do you not realise contraception can fail? No contraception is 100% foolproof, except abstinence, and with being on this site alone I highly doubt anyone practises that lol if contraception can fail I'd be a father to about 20 kiss by now . joking aside I think if both parties take care it's all good. I'm a freak where contraception is concerned Do you genuinely believe contraception is 100% reliable? " I think if a woman finds the best contraceptive for her and a man uses a condom all will be good ps. I await the replies of "oh we used condoms and other contraceptives with it and still got pregnant". as I said if contraceptives were good at failing I'd be a dad by now or else me and the women I have been with are good with protection | |||
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"Looks like it's getting lots of use too " I suppose that's the point of here to have lots of great sex Love how you change topic so fast.... Classic | |||
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"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk. Do you not understand how many risks to a womans health and potentially life pregnancy in itself can entail??i heard that question been asked today elsewhere and the response was "don't get pregnant then". Where would we all be then??I'm guessing the jist of the reply was, if you want a baby have one or try have one, if you don't,protect yourself and your partner against it. Do you not realise contraception can fail? No contraception is 100% foolproof, except abstinence, and with being on this site alone I highly doubt anyone practises that lol if contraception can fail I'd be a father to about 20 kiss by now . joking aside I think if both parties take care it's all good. I'm a freak where contraception is concerned Do you genuinely believe contraception is 100% reliable? I think if a woman finds the best contraceptive for her and a man uses a condom all will be good ps. I await the replies of "oh we used condoms and other contraceptives with it and still got pregnant". as I said if contraceptives were good at failing I'd be a dad by now or else me and the women I have been with are good with protection " Maybe they terminated and didn't tell you? | |||
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"Looks like it's getting lots of use too I suppose that's the point of here to have lots of great sex Love how you change topic so fast.... Classic " sex sex and more sex... | |||
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"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk. Do you not understand how many risks to a womans health and potentially life pregnancy in itself can entail??i heard that question been asked today elsewhere and the response was "don't get pregnant then". Where would we all be then??I'm guessing the jist of the reply was, if you want a baby have one or try have one, if you don't,protect yourself and your partner against it. Do you not realise contraception can fail? No contraception is 100% foolproof, except abstinence, and with being on this site alone I highly doubt anyone practises that lol if contraception can fail I'd be a father to about 20 kiss by now . joking aside I think if both parties take care it's all good. I'm a freak where contraception is concerned Do you genuinely believe contraception is 100% reliable? I think if a woman finds the best contraceptive for her and a man uses a condom all will be good ps. I await the replies of "oh we used condoms and other contraceptives with it and still got pregnant". as I said if contraceptives were good at failing I'd be a dad by now or else me and the women I have been with are good with protection Maybe they terminated and didn't tell you?" I'll start the ball rolling tomorrow to find out | |||
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"294 veris I think a lot of wishes are getting granted too. " Haha unfortunately the credit for that has to go to the very successful social event I ran for a couple of years Thanks for nosing though | |||
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"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk. Do you not understand how many risks to a womans health and potentially life pregnancy in itself can entail??i heard that question been asked today elsewhere and the response was "don't get pregnant then". Where would we all be then??I'm guessing the jist of the reply was, if you want a baby have one or try have one, if you don't,protect yourself and your partner against it. Do you not realise contraception can fail? No contraception is 100% foolproof, except abstinence, and with being on this site alone I highly doubt anyone practises that lol if contraception can fail I'd be a father to about 20 kiss by now . joking aside I think if both parties take care it's all good. I'm a freak where contraception is concerned Do you genuinely believe contraception is 100% reliable? I think if a woman finds the best contraceptive for her and a man uses a condom all will be good ps. I await the replies of "oh we used condoms and other contraceptives with it and still got pregnant". as I said if contraceptives were good at failing I'd be a dad by now or else me and the women I have been with are good with protection Maybe they terminated and didn't tell you?I'll start the ball rolling tomorrow to find out You'll never ever know " absolutely. it's what I have been saying all along. a man puts it there but ultimately gets no say in what happens | |||
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"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk. Do you not understand how many risks to a womans health and potentially life pregnancy in itself can entail??i heard that question been asked today elsewhere and the response was "don't get pregnant then". Where would we all be then??I'm guessing the jist of the reply was, if you want a baby have one or try have one, if you don't,protect yourself and your partner against it. Do you not realise contraception can fail? No contraception is 100% foolproof, except abstinence, and with being on this site alone I highly doubt anyone practises that lol if contraception can fail I'd be a father to about 20 kiss by now . joking aside I think if both parties take care it's all good. I'm a freak where contraception is concerned Do you genuinely believe contraception is 100% reliable? I think if a woman finds the best contraceptive for her and a man uses a condom all will be good ps. I await the replies of "oh we used condoms and other contraceptives with it and still got pregnant". as I said if contraceptives were good at failing I'd be a dad by now or else me and the women I have been with are good with protection Maybe they terminated and didn't tell you?I'll start the ball rolling tomorrow to find out You'll never ever know absolutely. it's what I have been saying all along. a man puts it there but ultimately gets no say in what happens " Thankfully | |||
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"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk. Do you not understand how many risks to a womans health and potentially life pregnancy in itself can entail??i heard that question been asked today elsewhere and the response was "don't get pregnant then". Where would we all be then??I'm guessing the jist of the reply was, if you want a baby have one or try have one, if you don't,protect yourself and your partner against it. Do you not realise contraception can fail? No contraception is 100% foolproof, except abstinence, and with being on this site alone I highly doubt anyone practises that lol if contraception can fail I'd be a father to about 20 kiss by now . joking aside I think if both parties take care it's all good. I'm a freak where contraception is concerned Do you genuinely believe contraception is 100% reliable? I think if a woman finds the best contraceptive for her and a man uses a condom all will be good ps. I await the replies of "oh we used condoms and other contraceptives with it and still got pregnant". as I said if contraceptives were good at failing I'd be a dad by now or else me and the women I have been with are good with protection " u seriously cannot be that naive even the coil isnt 100% | |||
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"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk. Do you not understand how many risks to a womans health and potentially life pregnancy in itself can entail??i heard that question been asked today elsewhere and the response was "don't get pregnant then". Where would we all be then??I'm guessing the jist of the reply was, if you want a baby have one or try have one, if you don't,protect yourself and your partner against it. Do you not realise contraception can fail? No contraception is 100% foolproof, except abstinence, and with being on this site alone I highly doubt anyone practises that lol if contraception can fail I'd be a father to about 20 kiss by now . joking aside I think if both parties take care it's all good. I'm a freak where contraception is concerned Do you genuinely believe contraception is 100% reliable? I think if a woman finds the best contraceptive for her and a man uses a condom all will be good ps. I await the replies of "oh we used condoms and other contraceptives with it and still got pregnant". as I said if contraceptives were good at failing I'd be a dad by now or else me and the women I have been with are good with protection u seriously cannot be that naive even the coil isnt 100% " I honestly believe he is | |||
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"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk. Do you not understand how many risks to a womans health and potentially life pregnancy in itself can entail??i heard that question been asked today elsewhere and the response was "don't get pregnant then". Where would we all be then??I'm guessing the jist of the reply was, if you want a baby have one or try have one, if you don't,protect yourself and your partner against it. Do you not realise contraception can fail? No contraception is 100% foolproof, except abstinence, and with being on this site alone I highly doubt anyone practises that lol if contraception can fail I'd be a father to about 20 kiss by now . joking aside I think if both parties take care it's all good. I'm a freak where contraception is concerned Do you genuinely believe contraception is 100% reliable? I think if a woman finds the best contraceptive for her and a man uses a condom all will be good ps. I await the replies of "oh we used condoms and other contraceptives with it and still got pregnant". as I said if contraceptives were good at failing I'd be a dad by now or else me and the women I have been with are good with protection u seriously cannot be that naive even the coil isnt 100% " I must be a father double times over by now so | |||
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"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk. Do you not understand how many risks to a womans health and potentially life pregnancy in itself can entail??i heard that question been asked today elsewhere and the response was "don't get pregnant then". Where would we all be then??I'm guessing the jist of the reply was, if you want a baby have one or try have one, if you don't,protect yourself and your partner against it. Do you not realise contraception can fail? No contraception is 100% foolproof, except abstinence, and with being on this site alone I highly doubt anyone practises that lol if contraception can fail I'd be a father to about 20 kiss by now . joking aside I think if both parties take care it's all good. I'm a freak where contraception is concerned Do you genuinely believe contraception is 100% reliable? I think if a woman finds the best contraceptive for her and a man uses a condom all will be good ps. I await the replies of "oh we used condoms and other contraceptives with it and still got pregnant". as I said if contraceptives were good at failing I'd be a dad by now or else me and the women I have been with are good with protection u seriously cannot be that naive even the coil isnt 100% I must be a father double times over by now so " and they choose not to tell u | |||
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"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk. Do you not understand how many risks to a womans health and potentially life pregnancy in itself can entail??i heard that question been asked today elsewhere and the response was "don't get pregnant then". Where would we all be then??I'm guessing the jist of the reply was, if you want a baby have one or try have one, if you don't,protect yourself and your partner against it. Do you not realise contraception can fail? No contraception is 100% foolproof, except abstinence, and with being on this site alone I highly doubt anyone practises that lol if contraception can fail I'd be a father to about 20 kiss by now . joking aside I think if both parties take care it's all good. I'm a freak where contraception is concerned Do you genuinely believe contraception is 100% reliable? I think if a woman finds the best contraceptive for her and a man uses a condom all will be good ps. I await the replies of "oh we used condoms and other contraceptives with it and still got pregnant". as I said if contraceptives were good at failing I'd be a dad by now or else me and the women I have been with are good with protection u seriously cannot be that naive even the coil isnt 100% " naive is the woman who sleeps with her partner and says "you're okay, I'm on a contraceptive you don't need to use a condom" | |||
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"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk. Do you not understand how many risks to a womans health and potentially life pregnancy in itself can entail??i heard that question been asked today elsewhere and the response was "don't get pregnant then". Where would we all be then??I'm guessing the jist of the reply was, if you want a baby have one or try have one, if you don't,protect yourself and your partner against it. Do you not realise contraception can fail? No contraception is 100% foolproof, except abstinence, and with being on this site alone I highly doubt anyone practises that lol if contraception can fail I'd be a father to about 20 kiss by now . joking aside I think if both parties take care it's all good. I'm a freak where contraception is concerned Do you genuinely believe contraception is 100% reliable? I think if a woman finds the best contraceptive for her and a man uses a condom all will be good ps. I await the replies of "oh we used condoms and other contraceptives with it and still got pregnant". as I said if contraceptives were good at failing I'd be a dad by now or else me and the women I have been with are good with protection u seriously cannot be that naive even the coil isnt 100% naive is the woman who sleeps with her partner and says "you're okay, I'm on a contraceptive you don't need to use a condom"" naive is the man who believes choose the right one and ur safe | |||
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"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk. Do you not understand how many risks to a womans health and potentially life pregnancy in itself can entail??i heard that question been asked today elsewhere and the response was "don't get pregnant then". Where would we all be then??I'm guessing the jist of the reply was, if you want a baby have one or try have one, if you don't,protect yourself and your partner against it. Do you not realise contraception can fail? No contraception is 100% foolproof, except abstinence, and with being on this site alone I highly doubt anyone practises that lol if contraception can fail I'd be a father to about 20 kiss by now . joking aside I think if both parties take care it's all good. I'm a freak where contraception is concerned Do you genuinely believe contraception is 100% reliable? I think if a woman finds the best contraceptive for her and a man uses a condom all will be good ps. I await the replies of "oh we used condoms and other contraceptives with it and still got pregnant". as I said if contraceptives were good at failing I'd be a dad by now or else me and the women I have been with are good with protection u seriously cannot be that naive even the coil isnt 100% I must be a father double times over by now so and they choose not to tell u " thank the Lord | |||
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"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk. Do you not understand how many risks to a womans health and potentially life pregnancy in itself can entail??i heard that question been asked today elsewhere and the response was "don't get pregnant then". Where would we all be then??I'm guessing the jist of the reply was, if you want a baby have one or try have one, if you don't,protect yourself and your partner against it. Do you not realise contraception can fail? No contraception is 100% foolproof, except abstinence, and with being on this site alone I highly doubt anyone practises that lol if contraception can fail I'd be a father to about 20 kiss by now . joking aside I think if both parties take care it's all good. I'm a freak where contraception is concerned Do you genuinely believe contraception is 100% reliable? I think if a woman finds the best contraceptive for her and a man uses a condom all will be good ps. I await the replies of "oh we used condoms and other contraceptives with it and still got pregnant". as I said if contraceptives were good at failing I'd be a dad by now or else me and the women I have been with are good with protection u seriously cannot be that naive even the coil isnt 100% I must be a father double times over by now so and they choose not to tell u thank the Lord " here here | |||
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"And yes I'm wrong it's not 90% of downs are aborted it's 91%. " The so called paper the article is based on is not accessible and well the journal.ie has never been and never will be a source of reputable medical fact. Please do not bring down down syndrome into this. Down Syndrome Ireland asked at the start but the No side ignored and its sickening. | |||
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"id love to do a survey if it was possible on how many "accidental" pregnancies came from one party not using contraception. id say it's huge. end of the day, the male protects himself, the female protects herself. problem in alot of cases is only one party uses the contraceptive. " that should keep u busy no time like the present | |||
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"id love to do a survey if it was possible on how many "accidental" pregnancies came from one party not using contraception. id say it's huge. end of the day, the male protects himself, the female protects herself. problem in alot of cases is only one party uses the contraceptive. that should keep u busy no time like the present " the amount of shagging that's done on fab and the reported failures in contraception we must have a few babies by now. anyone pregnant? I don't want an invite to the baby shower but I'll fork out on a pressie to relieve the shock | |||
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"We live in a democratic country, so thankfully have the right to vote and "choose". Vote yes if you believe in the support, compassion and dignity of the women in this country. #Repeal the 8th" Here,here, couldn't have said it better myself | |||
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