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By *ittleman300 OP   Man  over a year ago

tralee

OK guys yes or no,I'm on the yes side

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By *igertigerCouple (MM)  over a year ago

cc hotel


"OK guys yes or no,I'm on the yes side"

Its a yes from us....get your ass out and vote!!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

This topic has given me the best laugh in weeks on social media and facebook,

Women actually think they're being given a choice with all their repeal the 8th shite, it's the government who will have a say over their bodies!

My body my choice=Rubbish!

Abortion is murder!

It's a no from me

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By *evil_u_knowMan  over a year ago

city

If they choose to have a baby in poverty, can I choose to not pay taxes to support them?

No from me, re-run it and do it properly, enter it into the constitution and not common law.

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By *ohnandGemCouple  over a year ago

Louth/Meath/Dublin


"This topic has given me the best laugh in weeks on social media and facebook,

Women actually think they're being given a choice with all their repeal the 8th shite, it's the government who will have a say over their bodies!

My body my choice=Rubbish!

Abortion is murder!

It's a no from me "

Your post is a load of bull and the fact you find it hilarious says a lot about you.

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By *oghunter33Woman  over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

Has anyone seen the pic of the No-campaigner with the placard 'yes-voters, you should have been aborted'? the hypocrisy is hilarious.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"This topic has given me the best laugh in weeks on social media and facebook,

Women actually think they're being given a choice with all their repeal the 8th shite, it's the government who will have a say over their bodies!

My body my choice=Rubbish!

Abortion is murder!

It's a no from me

Your post is a load of bull and the fact you find it hilarious says a lot about you."

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By *eductively_SweetWoman  over a year ago

wexford


"If they choose to have a baby in poverty, can I choose to not pay taxes to support them?

No from me, re-run it and do it properly, enter it into the constitution and not common law."

what utter rubbish are u talking about ffs is that it thats ur reason i think u should go get educated on the issue in hand

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By *j47Man  over a year ago

limerick


"If they choose to have a baby in poverty, can I choose to not pay taxes to support them?

No from me, re-run it and do it properly, enter it into the constitution and not common law."

And should we also put it into the constitution that u have to be upper middle class or better to have a baby

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By *ohnandGemCouple  over a year ago

Louth/Meath/Dublin


"Has anyone seen the pic of the No-campaigner with the placard 'yes-voters, you should have been aborted'? the hypocrisy is hilarious. "

"I'm against abortions, unless in certain cases....wait that means I actually want to repeal!"

*Head explodes*

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By *un4tooCouple  over a year ago

north cork

The No side would try tell you that life begins at erection with the amount of drivel they spout.

Masturbation is murder.

Last night one of their representatives said that mental health is not backed up with hard evidence.

In other words there's no such thing as mental health issues.

Vote YES for choice, not for abortion.

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By *mi_Chew_KokWoman  over a year ago

DARK SOCIETY


"OK guys yes or no,I'm on the yes side"

Definitely big YES from me.

Look back to the 1960 etc what horrible things were happening back here in Ireland, such as Magdalen’s laundries and other sick like institutions and people will make a fuss about the abortion now ? All woman’s finally get the right of choice to do what they wants with their own body!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Has anyone seen the pic of the No-campaigner with the placard 'yes-voters, you should have been aborted'? the hypocrisy is hilarious. "

Saw that alright. It’s interesting that as we get closer to the vote the No campaign gets more and more desperate and in the end all they have left are insults and brutal behaviour. They’re control freaks who realise they’re in danger of losing that control and they don’t like it one little bit.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"OK guys yes or no,I'm on the yes side

Definitely big YES from me.

Look back to the 1960 etc what horrible things were happening back here in Ireland, such as Magdalen’s laundries and other sick like institutions and people will make a fuss about the abortion now ? All woman’s finally get the right of choice to do what they wants with their own body! "

Declan Ganley said on live TV last night that ‘we’ve always done well by mothers and children in this country’...and amazingly he kept a straight face! It’s just farcical stuff from them at this stage.

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By *ohnandGemCouple  over a year ago

Louth/Meath/Dublin


"Has anyone seen the pic of the No-campaigner with the placard 'yes-voters, you should have been aborted'? the hypocrisy is hilarious.

Saw that alright. It’s interesting that as we get closer to the vote the No campaign gets more and more desperate and in the end all they have left are insults and brutal behaviour. They’re control freaks who realise they’re in danger of losing that control and they don’t like it one little bit. "

There are some on the extreme end of the No side that would go after the right to travel or even contraception if they win tomorrow.

If that's not frightening I don't know what is.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

On Friday we will be asked to repeal the 8th amendment. If we do we will allow this government and subsequent governments to legislate for the termination of pregnancy in this country. So this vote is not about trusting the women of Ireland , its about trusting the government. Irish women will not decide the legislation politicians will. So we are being asked to trust them to do right by pregnant women and the unborn. We are being asked to trust a government, who promised to end homelessness, to fix the trolley crisis, who when they found out about the cervical check disaster there 1st step was to legislate to cover their own arses not to help those affected ......the list goes on.

So yes I find it hilarious!

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By *hefireinsideWoman  over a year ago

city


"On Friday we will be asked to repeal the 8th amendment. If we do we will allow this government and subsequent governments to legislate for the termination of pregnancy in this country. So this vote is not about trusting the women of Ireland , its about trusting the government. Irish women will not decide the legislation politicians will. So we are being asked to trust them to do right by pregnant women and the unborn. We are being asked to trust a government, who promised to end homelessness, to fix the trolley crisis, who when they found out about the cervical check disaster there 1st step was to legislate to cover their own arses not to help those affected ......the list goes on.

So yes I find it hilarious!"

That's a seriously bizarre way of looking at it!! Clutching at straws at this stage I think.

I'd rather trust our government to put in place the services for decent, deserved medical care for abortions instead of exporting our women and girls to England and allowing their government 'look after' us.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"On Friday we will be asked to repeal the 8th amendment. If we do we will allow this government and subsequent governments to legislate for the termination of pregnancy in this country. So this vote is not about trusting the women of Ireland , its about trusting the government. Irish women will not decide the legislation politicians will. So we are being asked to trust them to do right by pregnant women and the unborn. We are being asked to trust a government, who promised to end homelessness, to fix the trolley crisis, who when they found out about the cervical check disaster there 1st step was to legislate to cover their own arses not to help those affected ......the list goes on.

So yes I find it hilarious!"

So exactly how will women be trusted to make their own decision when they're currently not allowed to have a choice?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Definitely a Yes for me, although there are aspects I wouldn’t agree with it’s better than what currently exists in my opinion

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By *oghunter33Woman  over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of


"On Friday we will be asked to repeal the 8th amendment. If we do we will allow this government and subsequent governments to legislate for the termination of pregnancy in this country. So this vote is not about trusting the women of Ireland , its about trusting the government. Irish women will not decide the legislation politicians will. So we are being asked to trust them to do right by pregnant women and the unborn. We are being asked to trust a government, who promised to end homelessness, to fix the trolley crisis, who when they found out about the cervical check disaster there 1st step was to legislate to cover their own arses not to help those affected ......the list goes on.

So yes I find it hilarious!"

If you're mistrusting the government that much you've to ask yourself who voted them in. No government with some sense would come up with extreme abortion laws, respectively going from one extreme to another. So it's all scaremongering.

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By *evil_u_knowMan  over a year ago

city


"And should we also put it into the constitution that u have to be upper middle class or better to have a baby "

Well you are the ones voting yes, not me. I think the state should pay for every baby and everyone should be protected.

If you vote that away, then why expect the tax payer to step in and protect you? you voted the protection away???

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I will say though that not all No voters are evil or bad people. Some of my friends and family are no voters and they're good people and honestly feel they're doing the right thing just like the yes voters. I do get the hump when no voters are stereotyped as much as I do when yes voters are.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Your believing all the propaganda from the yes campaign.

Posters with guns at babies heads they find this horrific but ripped up bodily parts of babies are upsetting!

Abortions are upsetting they're horrific..

"But they're not real, they're not humans they're fetuses"(argument from the yes supporters,does that helps you sleep better at night.)

And ask yourself why over 80% of doctors and nurses refuse to sign the proposed legislation where they will have preform terminations.

It's murder plain and simple.

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By *evil_u_knowMan  over a year ago

city


"what utter rubbish are u talking about ffs is that it thats ur reason i think u should go get educated on the issue in hand

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Educate me so, some simple questions for you.

1) Will the 12 weeks be locked in place and never be moved?

2) Will people who choose to have a baby be protected?

3) If a baby is lost due to negligence can the mother get recompense?

4) 3-4 women have been murdered for getting pregnant and not aborting in the last 10 years, what protections for women against undue pressure from men is in the law?

5) Will the law allow children who have been forced into pregnancy to hide it from their parents?

6) If a pregnant woman is the victim of an assault and the baby dies, will it be prosecuted as murder or assault?

7) Will Donegal get an abortion clinic before a cancer clinic?

8) Are women already aborting down syndrome babies at a rate of 50% in the matter and 56% in the rotunda?

9) If you have any limits on your views of abortion, can they be locked in place in law?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I hate the amount of misinformation being spread about this.

The 8th amendment equates the life of an unborn child to the life of the mother. This means that unless the mother's life is in danger, the foetus can't be aborted. Do any No voters remember Savita Halappanavar? She died because the law equated her unborn child's life to hers.

Women in this country are forced to carry babies to term even when it's been medically proven that they will die as soon as they're born.

R*pe survivors are expected to carry any pregnancies resulting from their trauma.

The fact is that abortion happens in this country anyway, either through illegal means like pills or through the continued exporting of the issue to the UK. A No vote is basically a vote to continue this.

I'd urge any No voters to go to FB and search for the page In Her Shoes; it's full of stories about the devastation the 8th amendment has caused, from people who wanted their children very much but had no choice to get rid of them, to people who were r*ped or just not ready. There's a whole spectrum.

I'm voting Yes because I want women in this country to get the healthcare they need.

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By *j47Man  over a year ago

limerick


"And should we also put it into the constitution that u have to be upper middle class or better to have a baby

Well you are the ones voting yes, not me. I think the state should pay for every baby and everyone should be protected.

If you vote that away, then why expect the tax payer to step in and protect you? you voted the protection away???"

Why muddy the issue by dragging social welfare system in to it, it has nothing to do with the question being asked

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By *eductively_SweetWoman  over a year ago

wexford


"And should we also put it into the constitution that u have to be upper middle class or better to have a baby

Well you are the ones voting yes, not me. I think the state should pay for every baby and everyone should be protected.

If you vote that away, then why expect the tax payer to step in and protect you? you voted the protection away???"

so ur saying have the baby let the government pay for it cos its their job to protect the baby and ppl. and the womans mental health during the unwanted pregnancy and the after care are the government gonna pay for that too. and what about the after care of those who come back from england after an abortion who cares for them or the the girls scared and alone delievering a baby along and then abandom them who cares for those.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Oh and by the way:

The new legislation does not allow Downs Syndrome babies to be aborted.

It does not allow viable foetuses to be aborted at six months.

Abortion does not cause breast cancer.

Just a few of the lies I've seen/heard lately.

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By *ohnandGemCouple  over a year ago

Louth/Meath/Dublin


"Your believing all the propaganda from the yes campaign.

Posters with guns at babies heads they find this horrific but ripped up bodily parts of babies are upsetting!

Abortions are upsetting they're horrific..

"But they're not real, they're not humans they're fetuses"(argument from the yes supporters,does that helps you sleep better at night.)

And ask yourself why over 80% of doctors and nurses refuse to sign the proposed legislation where they will have preform terminations.

It's murder plain and simple."

Most doctors are advocating a yes vote.

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By *hefireinsideWoman  over a year ago

city


"

And ask yourself why over 80% of doctors and nurses refuse to sign the proposed legislation where they will have preform terminations.

It's murder plain and simple."

You are wrong.

http://www.thejournal.ie/how-many-doctors-support-repeal-4030792-May2018/?amp=1#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan  over a year ago

Tipperary


"Has anyone seen the pic of the No-campaigner with the placard 'yes-voters, you should have been aborted'? the hypocrisy is hilarious.

"I'm against abortions, unless in certain cases....wait that means I actually want to repeal!"

*Head explodes*"

that's the way alot are who I speak to. against abortion unless under certain circumstances

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By *aid backMan  over a year ago

by a lake with my rod out

Will vasectomies be banned as that's also killing millions of potential babies too??

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By *eductively_SweetWoman  over a year ago

wexford

i do feel alot of ppl debating the 8th havent done their homework into it to make a clear educated choice that they can live with.. i know what a baby of 21 wks looks like cos ive held her i know how hard it is to let go. and yet i still chose to vote yes. because no matter what we think about abortion we dont live in the shoes of those that have that decision taken away form them its not our place to take that away from anyone. i believe we have the right to choose whether we agree or not its a simple right. you will vote tomorrow go home and carry one ur every day life while womens faith hang in the balance.. all ask is before u vote please please educate urself on the yes and no have the correct information. some of the reasons ive read here and other social media are that of 12 yrs old should not be taken lightly

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By *aid backMan  over a year ago

by a lake with my rod out

Oh BTW I'm voting yes

For these very simple reasons people should have a choice if they want a baby or not without having to leave the country.

The other reason is the fact the church is against it means I'm for it.

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By *igertigerCouple (MM)  over a year ago

cc hotel

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By *rDarcy37Man  over a year ago

lucan

It's a yes for me. It's the correct decision.

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By *ohnandGemCouple  over a year ago

Louth/Meath/Dublin


"Has anyone seen the pic of the No-campaigner with the placard 'yes-voters, you should have been aborted'? the hypocrisy is hilarious.

"I'm against abortions, unless in certain cases....wait that means I actually want to repeal!"

*Head explodes*that's the way alot are who I speak to. against abortion unless under certain circumstances "

Then they should vote yes.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Sperm isn't a baby.

I'm afraid you need to go get yourself educated on the reproductive system.

And for every link there's another link.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.independent.ie/irish-news/abortion-referendum/twothirds-of-gps-will-refuse-to-provide-abortion-pills-36682050.html

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Has anyone seen the pic of the No-campaigner with the placard 'yes-voters, you should have been aborted'? the hypocrisy is hilarious.

"I'm against abortions, unless in certain cases....wait that means I actually want to repeal!"

*Head explodes*that's the way alot are who I speak to. against abortion unless under certain circumstances "

That position is both morally relativistic and realistically impractical. If one foetus has the right to life, they all have. But yes, a lot of people seem to think this way, and it will probably result in a lot of people not voting.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

So far as I am aware, the opinion of the majority of doctors is not known. About 10% of registered doctors signed up for the "yes" advertising.

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By *igertigerCouple (MM)  over a year ago

cc hotel


"what utter rubbish are u talking about ffs is that it thats ur reason i think u should go get educated on the issue in hand

Educate me so, some simple questions for you.

1) Will the 12 weeks be locked in place and never be moved?

2) Will people who choose to have a baby be protected?

3) If a baby is lost due to negligence can the mother get recompense?

4) 3-4 women have been murdered for getting pregnant and not aborting in the last 10 years, what protections for women against undue pressure from men is in the law?

5) Will the law allow children who have been forced into pregnancy to hide it from their parents?

6) If a pregnant woman is the victim of an assault and the baby dies, will it be prosecuted as murder or assault?

7) Will Donegal get an abortion clinic before a cancer clinic?

8) Are women already aborting down syndrome babies at a rate of 50% in the matter and 56% in the rotunda?

9) If you have any limits on your views of abortion, can they be locked in place in law?"

Donegal wont have an abortion clinic the very same doctors who look after their cancer patients will deal with a crises pregnancy. Repealing the 8th not remove all rights of the unborn. It simply give women back the right in limited circumstance to deal with a crises pregnancy here in Ireland. To equate the life of a foetus up to 12 weeks to that of the mother show a disregard for the lives and value of women. If men carried babies the amendment would never have been in place that I'm convinced of.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Sperm isn't a baby.

I'm afraid you need to go get yourself educated on the reproductive system.

And for every link there's another link.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.independent.ie/irish-news/abortion-referendum/twothirds-of-gps-will-refuse-to-provide-abortion-pills-36682050.html"

You're picking and choosing what you want from that. The GPs don't believe it should be their decision and over 50% of them believe in repeal.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Defo Yes

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By *hefireinsideWoman  over a year ago

city

Just as an aside.. I'm getting abusive msgs to my inbox here from No voters

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By *aucyladMan  over a year ago

Dublin


"On Friday we will be asked to repeal the 8th amendment. If we do we will allow this government and subsequent governments to legislate for the termination of pregnancy in this country. So this vote is not about trusting the women of Ireland , its about trusting the government. Irish women will not decide the legislation politicians will. So we are being asked to trust them to do right by pregnant women and the unborn. We are being asked to trust a government, who promised to end homelessness, to fix the trolley crisis, who when they found out about the cervical check disaster there 1st step was to legislate to cover their own arses not to help those affected ......the list goes on.

So yes I find it hilarious!

That's a seriously bizarre way of looking at it!! Clutching at straws at this stage I think.

I'd rather trust our government to put in place the services for decent, deserved medical care for abortions instead of exporting our women and girls to England and allowing their government 'look after' us."

Yeah the same government who got the cervical check so wrong.The Governement should have nothing to do with influencing anyone on this issue.Yes or No,it's the people's right to vote.As a society we can do better than this constant put down of one side or the other.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"On Friday we will be asked to repeal the 8th amendment. If we do we will allow this government and subsequent governments to legislate for the termination of pregnancy in this country. So this vote is not about trusting the women of Ireland , its about trusting the government. Irish women will not decide the legislation politicians will. So we are being asked to trust them to do right by pregnant women and the unborn. We are being asked to trust a government, who promised to end homelessness, to fix the trolley crisis, who when they found out about the cervical check disaster there 1st step was to legislate to cover their own arses not to help those affected ......the list goes on.

So yes I find it hilarious!

That's a seriously bizarre way of looking at it!! Clutching at straws at this stage I think.

I'd rather trust our government to put in place the services for decent, deserved medical care for abortions instead of exporting our women and girls to England and allowing their government 'look after' us.

Yeah the same government who got the cervical check so wrong.The Governement should have nothing to do with influencing anyone on this issue.Yes or No,it's the people's right to vote.As a society we can do better than this constant put down of one side or the other."

The government is actively supporting repeal btw.

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By *j47Man  over a year ago

limerick


"Just as an aside.. I'm getting abusive msgs to my inbox here from No voters "

Why does that not surprise me

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By *hefireinsideWoman  over a year ago

city


"

Yeah the same government who got the cervical check so wrong.The Governement should have nothing to do with influencing anyone on this issue.Yes or No,it's the people's right to vote.As a society we can do better than this constant put down of one side or the other."

I was being a little bit tongue in cheek there as she had mentioned the government would have control of our bodies if the 8th is repealed which is bizarre.. there will be qualified medical professionals employed to give us the care we deserve here instead of brushing the issue under the carpet and exporting the 'problem'.

I cannot understand a world where the life of an unborn is put ahead of the life of a woman or girl and for me that's at the crux of it, along with the right to choice. And I'm not just talking about the hard cases here. No abortion decision is taken lightly regardless of what the No side say and if a woman believes it's the right decision for her, I believe her and want her to be cared for by Ireland, not England.

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By *eductively_SweetWoman  over a year ago

wexford


"what utter rubbish are u talking about ffs is that it thats ur reason i think u should go get educated on the issue in hand

Educate me so, some simple questions for you.

1) Will the 12 weeks be locked in place and never be moved?

2) Will people who choose to have a baby be protected?

3) If a baby is lost due to negligence can the mother get recompense?

4) 3-4 women have been murdered for getting pregnant and not aborting in the last 10 years, what protections for women against undue pressure from men is in the law?

5) Will the law allow children who have been forced into pregnancy to hide it from their parents?

6) If a pregnant woman is the victim of an assault and the baby dies, will it be prosecuted as murder or assault?

7) Will Donegal get an abortion clinic before a cancer clinic?

8) Are women already aborting down syndrome babies at a rate of 50% in the matter and 56% in the rotunda?

9) If you have any limits on your views of abortion, can they be locked in place in law?"

since u googled the questions i suggest u google the answers. tis a far cry from ur poverty reason at least my comment has made u do some research which is what i wanted u to do

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Your believing all the propaganda from the yes campaign.

Posters with guns at babies heads they find this horrific but ripped up bodily parts of babies are upsetting!

Abortions are upsetting they're horrific..

"But they're not real, they're not humans they're fetuses"(argument from the yes supporters,does that helps you sleep better at night.)

And ask yourself why over 80% of doctors and nurses refuse to sign the proposed legislation where they will have preform terminations.

It's murder plain and simple."

Taking stats out of your hole doesn’t meant they’re true

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I've thought long and hard about this.

I'm for life...all life..

I cannot vote to end one or put one before another.

I cannot resolve the r*pe question which is my stumbling block.

I would like to have a healthcare system that will really support people who are in any crisis of any kind, so that everyone's lives are protected and cherished.

I do not trust the majority of politicians...Fine Gael/Labour got my vote to " burn the bondholders " which afterwards they didn't.

Maybe its a dream but I want the people present and future generations to have something better...we all deserve that .

I'm voting "NO" and sending it back..in the hope of something better.

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By *ack 188Man  over a year ago

Dublin 15


"On Friday we will be asked to repeal the 8th amendment. If we do we will allow this government and subsequent governments to legislate for the termination of pregnancy in this country. So this vote is not about trusting the women of Ireland , its about trusting the government. Irish women will not decide the legislation politicians will. So we are being asked to trust them to do right by pregnant women and the unborn. We are being asked to trust a government, who promised to end homelessness, to fix the trolley crisis, who when they found out about the cervical check disaster there 1st step was to legislate to cover their own arses not to help those affected ......the list goes on.

So yes I find it hilarious!"

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By *ohnandGemCouple  over a year ago

Louth/Meath/Dublin


"I've thought long and hard about this.

I'm for life...all life..

I cannot vote to end one or put one before another.

I cannot resolve the r*pe question which is my stumbling block.

I would like to have a healthcare system that will really support people who are in any crisis of any kind, so that everyone's lives are protected and cherished.

I do not trust the majority of politicians...Fine Gael/Labour got my vote to " burn the bondholders " which afterwards they didn't.

Maybe its a dream but I want the people present and future generations to have something better...we all deserve that .

I'm voting "NO" and sending it back..in the hope of something better. "

There won't be anything better for at least a decade if No wins.

Repeal now. Ten more years of trips to the UK is unacceptable.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

When I read the terrible stories about the way Irish women have been treated by their own country, I always feel lucky to live in the UK and have safe, free access to reproductive healthcare. Fingers crossed Ireland now moves away from it's barbaric and torturous treatment and neglect of pregnant people. Good luck from Wales

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Just like every debate on the issue one side is telling the other how wrong they are.In all honesty it would make you sick listing to you all trying to force you're opinions on others.Let people make up their own mind's and stop trying to ram your opinion down their throats.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

People should vote whichever way they believe is right. Polling stations open from 7am to 10 pm.

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By *hefireinsideWoman  over a year ago

city


"When I read the terrible stories about the way Irish women have been treated by their own country, I always feel lucky to live in the UK and have safe, free access to reproductive healthcare. Fingers crossed Ireland now moves away from it's barbaric and torturous treatment and neglect of pregnant people. Good luck from Wales "

Thank you! Unfortunately this site seems to be rife with people who don't believe women should have a right to choose what happens their own body. Which I find strange given the general ethos of this site. I honestly believe alot of it is down to education and how deep the Catholic church runs.

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By *hefireinsideWoman  over a year ago

city

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan  over a year ago

Tipperary

as a chap said on Facebook today "why the fuck am I even commenting on this, it doesn't affect me". got a lot of smiley/laughing faces

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Being from Northern Ireland and not being part of this referendum our view is irrelevant on this occasion.

We can only sit by and hope the that the right result comes out as a clear win.

The one thing we have noticed is that the the issue of abortion is as divisive as many of the issues that have divided the communities of Northern Ireland.

Good luck and we hope your differences don't last.

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By *hefireinsideWoman  over a year ago

city


"Just like every debate on the issue one side is telling the other how wrong they are.In all honesty it would make you sick listing to you all trying to force you're opinions on others.Let people make up their own mind's and stop trying to ram your opinion down their throats."

You have the right to choose to put an x in whichever box you want.. the same way I should have a right to choose what happens to my actual body.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"When I read the terrible stories about the way Irish women have been treated by their own country, I always feel lucky to live in the UK and have safe, free access to reproductive healthcare. Fingers crossed Ireland now moves away from it's barbaric and torturous treatment and neglect of pregnant people. Good luck from Wales

Thank you! Unfortunately this site seems to be rife with people who don't believe women should have a right to choose what happens their own body. Which I find strange given the general ethos of this site. I honestly believe alot of it is down to education and how deep the Catholic church runs. "

I agree with you.

In my opinion anyone who thinks it is acceptable to force a person to give birth when they don't want to needs to be having a serious word with themselves. It is not the dark ages. Aa I said though, I am fortunate to live in a country where women are treated with the respect and dignity they deserve when accessing basic reproductive healthcare, and religion is kept out of medicine

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The casual use of the word ‘murder’ by a person on this thread is absolutely disgraceful. You need help.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just like every debate on the issue one side is telling the other how wrong they are.In all honesty it would make you sick listing to you all trying to force you're opinions on others.Let people make up their own mind's and stop trying to ram your opinion down their throats."

Honestly this place and my group chat of 4 friends is the only place I've spoken about it. I've told loads I'm not voting (I am) but I'm sick to death of both sides at this stage. Especially sick of the idea that no voters are scum, they're not. I may be voting differently to some in my immediate family and friends but they're still my friends at the end of the day. This shit of people posting "if you vote this way delete me from your friends list as I refuse to be friends with a such and such" fucking dickheads. You're not a better person if you vote yes or if you vote no. If you think you are you're a fool. People have strong beliefs even without being religious.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The casual use of the word ‘murder’ by a person on this thread is absolutely disgraceful. You need help. "

It just shows pure lack of medical and scientific understanding. Educating people correctly would be a start, but Catholicism is a massive part of that problem

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By *adrqMan  over a year ago

monaghan

out off the 3000 plus women go out 2 England and else where I wonder how many are hard cases, an how many are social, example bad timing

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just like every debate on the issue one side is telling the other how wrong they are.In all honesty it would make you sick listing to you all trying to force you're opinions on others.Let people make up their own mind's and stop trying to ram your opinion down their throats.

Honestly this place and my group chat of 4 friends is the only place I've spoken about it. I've told loads I'm not voting (I am) but I'm sick to death of both sides at this stage. Especially sick of the idea that no voters are scum, they're not. I may be voting differently to some in my immediate family and friends but they're still my friends at the end of the day. This shit of people posting "if you vote this way delete me from your friends list as I refuse to be friends with a such and such" fucking dickheads. You're not a better person if you vote yes or if you vote no. If you think you are you're a fool. People have strong beliefs even without being religious. "

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By *ohng69Man  over a year ago

athenry


"I hate the amount of misinformation being spread about this.

The 8th amendment equates the life of an unborn child to the life of the mother. This means that unless the mother's life is in danger, the foetus can't be aborted. Do any No voters remember Savita Halappanavar? She died because the law equated her unborn child's life to hers.

Women in this country are forced to carry babies to term even when it's been medically proven that they will die as soon as they're born.

R*pe survivors are expected to carry any pregnancies resulting from their trauma.

The fact is that abortion happens in this country anyway, either through illegal means like pills or through the continued exporting of the issue to the UK. A No vote is basically a vote to continue this.

I'd urge any No voters to go to FB and search for the page In Her Shoes; it's full of stories about the devastation the 8th amendment has caused, from people who wanted their children very much but had no choice to get rid of them, to people who were r*ped or just not ready. There's a whole spectrum.

I'm voting Yes because I want women in this country to get the healthcare they need."

Well said.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just like every debate on the issue one side is telling the other how wrong they are.In all honesty it would make you sick listing to you all trying to force you're opinions on others.Let people make up their own mind's and stop trying to ram your opinion down their throats.

You have the right to choose to put an x in whichever box you want.. the same way I should have a right to choose what happens to my actual body. "

Yes your choice so let's all have our choice how we vote. Yes or no its each individuals choice.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"out off the 3000 plus women go out 2 England and else where I wonder how many are hard cases, an how many are social, example bad timing "

What difference does it make? We are entitled to terminations for social and finincial reasons here, not just in extreme circumstances. We are very fortunate to have sensible laws in the UK

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just like every debate on the issue one side is telling the other how wrong they are.In all honesty it would make you sick listing to you all trying to force you're opinions on others.Let people make up their own mind's and stop trying to ram your opinion down their throats.

Honestly this place and my group chat of 4 friends is the only place I've spoken about it. I've told loads I'm not voting (I am) but I'm sick to death of both sides at this stage. Especially sick of the idea that no voters are scum, they're not. I may be voting differently to some in my immediate family and friends but they're still my friends at the end of the day. This shit of people posting "if you vote this way delete me from your friends list as I refuse to be friends with a such and such" fucking dickheads. You're not a better person if you vote yes or if you vote no. If you think you are you're a fool. People have strong beliefs even without being religious. "

Well said.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan  over a year ago

Tipperary

I don't know enough about the UK laws but over there can you book an abortion and have one under any circumstances?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I don't know enough about the UK laws but over there can you book an abortion and have one under any circumstances?"

Yep up to 24 weeks

Social or financial reasons come under the bit about not damaging the physical or mental health of the woman or any existing children

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By *hefireinsideWoman  over a year ago

city


"I don't know enough about the UK laws but over there can you book an abortion and have one under any circumstances?"

Yes.. up to 6 months. Like the vast majority of the rest of the developed counties of the world.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Murder definition/the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Murder definition/the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.

"

An embryo/foetus under 24 weeks has no human rights in the UK

Fingers crossed the Irish will see sense soon

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I don't know enough about the UK laws but over there can you book an abortion and have one under any circumstances?

Yes.. up to 6 months. Like the vast majority of the rest of the developed counties of the world."

Don't you think six months is very advanced stage for abortion.Except maybe is a life or death situation.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I don't know enough about the UK laws but over there can you book an abortion and have one under any circumstances?

Yes.. up to 6 months. Like the vast majority of the rest of the developed counties of the world. Don't you think six months is very advanced stage for abortion.Except maybe is a life or death situation."

Very few terminations are actually carried out at this stage

Mainly in cases of foetal abnormaloties which cannot be detected prior to a 20 week scan hence why the 24 week limit of vital to allow women choice should a 20 week scan deliver heartbreaking news

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By *hefireinsideWoman  over a year ago

city


"I don't know enough about the UK laws but over there can you book an abortion and have one under any circumstances?

Yes.. up to 6 months. Like the vast majority of the rest of the developed counties of the world. Don't you think six months is very advanced stage for abortion.Except maybe is a life or death situation."

No I genuinely don't. And the proposed new legislation for Ireland is 3 months not 6.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I don't know enough about the UK laws but over there can you book an abortion and have one under any circumstances?

Yes.. up to 6 months. Like the vast majority of the rest of the developed counties of the world. Don't you think six months is very advanced stage for abortion.Except maybe is a life or death situation.

No I genuinely don't. And the proposed new legislation for Ireland is 3 months not 6."

Would the new legislation allow terminations at a later stage for foetal abormalities detected at the usual 20 week anomally scan?? I am assuming it is just abortion on demand that is limited to 12 weeks?? Xx

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By *ohnandGemCouple  over a year ago

Louth/Meath/Dublin


"as a chap said on Facebook today "why the fuck am I even commenting on this, it doesn't affect me". got a lot of smiley/laughing faces "

You're some piece of work snickers.

And yeah I know I'm rising to your reactionary posts. But Jesus Christ man. I hope you never have to deal with a crisis pregnancy.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan  over a year ago

Tipperary

my own opinion is abortion in Ireland will never be the same as the UK. if, like I said yesterday a woman appears at a clinic in Ireland wanting an abortion, I can't see them just say "no bother" without any questions asked. do I think it's right to abort? been honest i think it's a stupid question. a man helps put a child there but it's the woman's choice at the end of the day. a man doesn't have any realistic say

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I don't know enough about the UK laws but over there can you book an abortion and have one under any circumstances?

Yes.. up to 6 months. Like the vast majority of the rest of the developed counties of the world. Don't you think six months is very advanced stage for abortion.Except maybe is a life or death situation.

No I genuinely don't. And the proposed new legislation for Ireland is 3 months not 6."

Well a baby can survive after 22 weeks. So I would think it is very advanced for abortion except in very exceptional circumstance.

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By *hefireinsideWoman  over a year ago

city


"

Would the new legislation allow terminations at a later stage for foetal abormalities detected at the usual 20 week anomally scan?? I am assuming it is just abortion on demand that is limited to 12 weeks?? Xx"

Yes more than likely it just isn't drafted yet. The assumption is we would have similar laws to those of most of the rest of the developed world.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

2 doctors have to agree and sign in the UK. But that's just a legal formality. It is a womans right to have an abortion whatever her own personal reasons and the medical profession fully support that right

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I don't know enough about the UK laws but over there can you book an abortion and have one under any circumstances?

Yes.. up to 6 months. Like the vast majority of the rest of the developed counties of the world. Don't you think six months is very advanced stage for abortion.Except maybe is a life or death situation.

No I genuinely don't. And the proposed new legislation for Ireland is 3 months not 6. Well a baby can survive after 22 weeks. So I would think it is very advanced for abortion except in very exceptional circumstance."

It would mainly be for medical reasons at such a late stage

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I don't know enough about the UK laws but over there can you book an abortion and have one under any circumstances?

Yes.. up to 6 months. Like the vast majority of the rest of the developed counties of the world. Don't you think six months is very advanced stage for abortion.Except maybe is a life or death situation.

No I genuinely don't. And the proposed new legislation for Ireland is 3 months not 6. Well a baby can survive after 22 weeks. So I would think it is very advanced for abortion except in very exceptional circumstance.

It would mainly be for medical reasons at such a late stage "

Well I would hope so.

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By *ohnandGemCouple  over a year ago

Louth/Meath/Dublin


"Murder definition/the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.

"

When in your opinion does a fetus become a human being?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I don't know enough about the UK laws but over there can you book an abortion and have one under any circumstances?

Yes.. up to 6 months. Like the vast majority of the rest of the developed counties of the world. Don't you think six months is very advanced stage for abortion.Except maybe is a life or death situation.

No I genuinely don't. And the proposed new legislation for Ireland is 3 months not 6. Well a baby can survive after 22 weeks. So I would think it is very advanced for abortion except in very exceptional circumstance.

It would mainly be for medical reasons at such a late stage Well I would hope so."

I would have thought that most women would have made a decision to terminate a lot sooner than that for other reasons, unless for example they were very far into their pregnancy before discovering they were pregnant.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Some posters always have and always will say stuff to be controversial even to the extent where they'll say something that is a complete juxtaposition of something they may have said previously. I've decided best to let them off these days

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Murder definition/the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.

When in your opinion does a fetus become a human being?"

Those are the shit arguments that put me off listening to debates.Because everyone becomes an expert in something they known feck all about.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

An embryo/foetus under 24 weeks has no human rights in the UK

Thankfully as Irish people we have better consciences.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"An embryo/foetus under 24 weeks has no human rights in the UK

Thankfully as Irish people we have better consciences. "

Thankfully as British people we have more compassion and respect for our women, so our consciences are clear

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"An embryo/foetus under 24 weeks has no human rights in the UK

Thankfully as Irish people we have better consciences.

Thankfully as British people we have more compassion and respect for our women, so our consciences are clear "

Please let's not start an Irish v British debate....

Really not the place

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"An embryo/foetus under 24 weeks has no human rights in the UK

Thankfully as Irish people we have better consciences.

Thankfully as British people we have more compassion and respect for our women, so our consciences are clear

Please let's not start an Irish v British debate....

Really not the place "

My apologies

As I said earlier I am fortunate to live in a country with excellent, safe reproductive healthcare that cares for it's women. I love the Irish just not it's law

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By *traycats2Couple  over a year ago

Dublin

My womb . My body. My choice .... I’m voting yes

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"An embryo/foetus under 24 weeks has no human rights in the UK

Thankfully as Irish people we have better consciences.

Thankfully as British people we have more compassion and respect for our women, so our consciences are clear

Please let's not start an Irish v British debate....

Really not the place

My apologies

As I said earlier I am fortunate to live in a country with excellent, safe reproductive healthcare that cares for it's women. I love the Irish just not it's law "

No worries haha just sometimes when it goes down that path it goes right down

Ye do have a decent health care alright

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Terminating a 24 week old baby in the UK your full of compassion

90% of Down syndrome are terminated in the UK full of compassion

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Terminating a 24 week old baby in the UK your full of compassion

90% of Down syndrome are terminated in the UK full of compassion

Well you don't live here so don't stress

"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My womb . My body. My choice .... I’m voting yes "

That is pretty much a brief and sensible reason

Noone is voting to make abortion compulsory or to force anyone to have one

Everyone who opposes abortion will still be as entitled to not have one exactly as they are now

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

That downs thing is a total lie and how dare you bring it into this debate. Down syndrome Ireland asked at the start not to be dragged into this.

The lies and false medical facts that have been thrown about in this referendum is disgusting and nothing short of criminal.

It's disgusting that people go to such under handed lengths

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

That downs thing is a total lie and how dare you bring it into this debate. Down syndrome Ireland asked at the start not to be dragged into this.

The lies and false medical facts that have been thrown about in this referendum is disgusting and nothing short of criminal.

It's disgusting that people go to such under handed lengths

"

Anti choicers are reknown for it unfortunately

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By *traycats2Couple  over a year ago

Dublin


"My womb . My body. My choice .... I’m voting yes

That is pretty much a brief and sensible reason

Noone is voting to make abortion compulsory or to force anyone to have one

Everyone who opposes abortion will still be as entitled to not have one exactly as they are now "

exactly

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan  over a year ago

Tipperary

what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk.

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By *adrqMan  over a year ago

monaghan

if I cant afford my car I get rid off ,,, I will work night and day for my flesh and blood I will sacrafise my life for my child

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Vote now for women's care xxx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

https://www.google.ie/amp/www.thejournal.ie/factcheck-babies-abortion-3823611-Feb2018/%3famp=1

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk. "

How would expect a woman to prove it was conceived non consensually? I don't understand that

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk. "

Do you not understand how many risks to a womans health and potentially life pregnancy in itself can entail??

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan  over a year ago

Tipperary


"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk.

How would expect a woman to prove it was conceived non consensually? I don't understand that"

would a woman lie about been ra..ed?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It's risky to cross the road these days.

Or

Have a opinion on a forum thread.

Lol

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan  over a year ago

Tipperary


"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk.

Do you not understand how many risks to a womans health and potentially life pregnancy in itself can entail??"

i heard that question been asked today elsewhere and the response was "don't get pregnant then".

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yes I'm 100% Irish and very proud to be

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk.

How would expect a woman to prove it was conceived non consensually? I don't understand thatwould a woman lie about been ra..ed?"

Would they have to do that in order to obtain an abortion in your ideal? How would a woman be expected to prove non consensual activity?? Or would it be up to the healthcare provider to try and disprove? I am asking out of genuine interest of how this kind of criteria would realistically be enforced

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk.

Do you not understand how many risks to a womans health and potentially life pregnancy in itself can entail??i heard that question been asked today elsewhere and the response was "don't get pregnant then". "

Where would we all be then??

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"https://www.google.ie/amp/www.thejournal.ie/factcheck-babies-abortion-3823611-Feb2018/%3famp=1"

If you even read that it's still saying pre natal diagnosis and the percentage of pre natal diagnosis isng is very slim.

Also I wouldn't use the journal.ie as a reputable source of medical fact

Also the reports don't seem available to read? I've tried following the link to no avail.

I still find it sick to bring children with such conditions into this to further your agenda

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan  over a year ago

Tipperary


"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk.

How would expect a woman to prove it was conceived non consensually? I don't understand thatwould a woman lie about been ra..ed?

Would they have to do that in order to obtain an abortion in your ideal? How would a woman be expected to prove non consensual activity?? Or would it be up to the healthcare provider to try and disprove? I am asking out of genuine interest of how this kind of criteria would realistically be enforced "

I'm not a medical expert so I can't answer that.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It's risky to cross the road these days.

Or

Have a opinion on a forum thread.

Lol

"

I know

You even get accused of murder for having a view

Risky business aye

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan  over a year ago

Tipperary


"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk.

Do you not understand how many risks to a womans health and potentially life pregnancy in itself can entail??i heard that question been asked today elsewhere and the response was "don't get pregnant then".

Where would we all be then??"

I'm guessing the jist of the reply was, if you want a baby have one or try have one, if you don't,protect yourself and your partner against it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Well I'm sure your a complete saint being on here and that!

I'm sure your not a baby murder either.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk.

How would expect a woman to prove it was conceived non consensually? I don't understand thatwould a woman lie about been ra..ed?

Would they have to do that in order to obtain an abortion in your ideal? How would a woman be expected to prove non consensual activity?? Or would it be up to the healthcare provider to try and disprove? I am asking out of genuine interest of how this kind of criteria would realistically be enforced I'm not a medical expert so I can't answer that. "

I didn't want a medical experts opinion

I wondered how the people who hold this view believe it should be enforced, out of interest, as I cannot think of a feesible way.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think your womb is too old to harbour any babies so I think they're safe.

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By *adrqMan  over a year ago

monaghan

I staying in bed 2 morro its to risky 2 go out side a shit I have 2 go out 2 vote

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk.

How would expect a woman to prove it was conceived non consensually? I don't understand thatwould a woman lie about been ra..ed?

Would they have to do that in order to obtain an abortion in your ideal? How would a woman be expected to prove non consensual activity?? Or would it be up to the healthcare provider to try and disprove? I am asking out of genuine interest of how this kind of criteria would realistically be enforced I'm not a medical expert so I can't answer that. "

It can't be, particularly with the time constraints involved, which is why it has to be unrestricted in the early stage.

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By *addy36Man  over a year ago

Mayo

I just wish this referendum was over and done with because it's giving me a serious fookin pain in my nether regions. As far as I'm concerned it's a vote for choice,the choice to have an abortion here or abroad.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk.

Do you not understand how many risks to a womans health and potentially life pregnancy in itself can entail??i heard that question been asked today elsewhere and the response was "don't get pregnant then".

Where would we all be then??I'm guessing the jist of the reply was, if you want a baby have one or try have one, if you don't,protect yourself and your partner against it. "

Do you not realise contraception can fail? No contraception is 100% foolproof, except abstinence, and with being on this site alone I highly doubt anyone practises that

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Be a hero save a life Vote no.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan  over a year ago

Tipperary


"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk.

How would expect a woman to prove it was conceived non consensually? I don't understand thatwould a woman lie about been ra..ed?

Would they have to do that in order to obtain an abortion in your ideal? How would a woman be expected to prove non consensual activity?? Or would it be up to the healthcare provider to try and disprove? I am asking out of genuine interest of how this kind of criteria would realistically be enforced I'm not a medical expert so I can't answer that.

I didn't want a medical experts opinion

I wondered how the people who hold this view believe it should be enforced, out of interest, as I cannot think of a feesible way."

i think alot would want to be mentally absurd to use r..e as a way of having an abortion.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think your womb is too old to harbour any babies so I think they're safe."

3 by 25 my uterus is in flat out retirement now honey

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan  over a year ago

Tipperary


"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk.

Do you not understand how many risks to a womans health and potentially life pregnancy in itself can entail??i heard that question been asked today elsewhere and the response was "don't get pregnant then".

Where would we all be then??I'm guessing the jist of the reply was, if you want a baby have one or try have one, if you don't,protect yourself and your partner against it.

Do you not realise contraception can fail? No contraception is 100% foolproof, except abstinence, and with being on this site alone I highly doubt anyone practises that "

lol if contraception can fail I'd be a father to about 20 kiss by now . joking aside I think if both parties take care it's all good. I'm a freak where contraception is concerned

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk.

How would expect a woman to prove it was conceived non consensually? I don't understand thatwould a woman lie about been ra..ed?

Would they have to do that in order to obtain an abortion in your ideal? How would a woman be expected to prove non consensual activity?? Or would it be up to the healthcare provider to try and disprove? I am asking out of genuine interest of how this kind of criteria would realistically be enforced I'm not a medical expert so I can't answer that.

I didn't want a medical experts opinion

I wondered how the people who hold this view believe it should be enforced, out of interest, as I cannot think of a feesible way.i think alot would want to be mentally absurd to use r..e as a way of having an abortion. "

I think it would be mentally absurd to restrict abortion to such circumstances that some woman may feel they have to out of desperation

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Wasn't talking about your womb your only 32 you've loads of time.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk.

Do you not understand how many risks to a womans health and potentially life pregnancy in itself can entail??i heard that question been asked today elsewhere and the response was "don't get pregnant then".

Where would we all be then??I'm guessing the jist of the reply was, if you want a baby have one or try have one, if you don't,protect yourself and your partner against it.

Do you not realise contraception can fail? No contraception is 100% foolproof, except abstinence, and with being on this site alone I highly doubt anyone practises that lol if contraception can fail I'd be a father to about 20 kiss by now . joking aside I think if both parties take care it's all good. I'm a freak where contraception is concerned "

Do you genuinely believe contraception is 100% reliable?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Wasn't talking about your womb your only 32 you've loads of time.

"

Fuck that for a giraffe I've done my bit

My cunt is a one way street now

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Looks like it's getting lots of use too

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Looks like it's getting lots of use too "

Wishful thinking dear

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan  over a year ago

Tipperary


"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk.

Do you not understand how many risks to a womans health and potentially life pregnancy in itself can entail??i heard that question been asked today elsewhere and the response was "don't get pregnant then".

Where would we all be then??I'm guessing the jist of the reply was, if you want a baby have one or try have one, if you don't,protect yourself and your partner against it.

Do you not realise contraception can fail? No contraception is 100% foolproof, except abstinence, and with being on this site alone I highly doubt anyone practises that lol if contraception can fail I'd be a father to about 20 kiss by now . joking aside I think if both parties take care it's all good. I'm a freak where contraception is concerned

Do you genuinely believe contraception is 100% reliable? "

I think if a woman finds the best contraceptive for her and a man uses a condom all will be good

ps. I await the replies of "oh we used condoms and other contraceptives with it and still got pregnant". as I said if contraceptives were good at failing I'd be a dad by now or else me and the women I have been with are good with protection

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Oh dear oh dear

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Looks like it's getting lots of use too "

I suppose that's the point of here to have lots of great sex

Love how you change topic so fast.... Classic

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk.

Do you not understand how many risks to a womans health and potentially life pregnancy in itself can entail??i heard that question been asked today elsewhere and the response was "don't get pregnant then".

Where would we all be then??I'm guessing the jist of the reply was, if you want a baby have one or try have one, if you don't,protect yourself and your partner against it.

Do you not realise contraception can fail? No contraception is 100% foolproof, except abstinence, and with being on this site alone I highly doubt anyone practises that lol if contraception can fail I'd be a father to about 20 kiss by now . joking aside I think if both parties take care it's all good. I'm a freak where contraception is concerned

Do you genuinely believe contraception is 100% reliable? I think if a woman finds the best contraceptive for her and a man uses a condom all will be good

ps. I await the replies of "oh we used condoms and other contraceptives with it and still got pregnant". as I said if contraceptives were good at failing I'd be a dad by now or else me and the women I have been with are good with protection "

Maybe they terminated and didn't tell you?

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan  over a year ago

Tipperary


"Looks like it's getting lots of use too

I suppose that's the point of here to have lots of great sex

Love how you change topic so fast.... Classic "

sex sex and more sex...

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan  over a year ago

Tipperary


"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk.

Do you not understand how many risks to a womans health and potentially life pregnancy in itself can entail??i heard that question been asked today elsewhere and the response was "don't get pregnant then".

Where would we all be then??I'm guessing the jist of the reply was, if you want a baby have one or try have one, if you don't,protect yourself and your partner against it.

Do you not realise contraception can fail? No contraception is 100% foolproof, except abstinence, and with being on this site alone I highly doubt anyone practises that lol if contraception can fail I'd be a father to about 20 kiss by now . joking aside I think if both parties take care it's all good. I'm a freak where contraception is concerned

Do you genuinely believe contraception is 100% reliable? I think if a woman finds the best contraceptive for her and a man uses a condom all will be good

ps. I await the replies of "oh we used condoms and other contraceptives with it and still got pregnant". as I said if contraceptives were good at failing I'd be a dad by now or else me and the women I have been with are good with protection

Maybe they terminated and didn't tell you?"

I'll start the ball rolling tomorrow to find out

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

294 veris I think a lot of wishes are getting granted too.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk.

Do you not understand how many risks to a womans health and potentially life pregnancy in itself can entail??i heard that question been asked today elsewhere and the response was "don't get pregnant then".

Where would we all be then??I'm guessing the jist of the reply was, if you want a baby have one or try have one, if you don't,protect yourself and your partner against it.

Do you not realise contraception can fail? No contraception is 100% foolproof, except abstinence, and with being on this site alone I highly doubt anyone practises that lol if contraception can fail I'd be a father to about 20 kiss by now . joking aside I think if both parties take care it's all good. I'm a freak where contraception is concerned

Do you genuinely believe contraception is 100% reliable? I think if a woman finds the best contraceptive for her and a man uses a condom all will be good

ps. I await the replies of "oh we used condoms and other contraceptives with it and still got pregnant". as I said if contraceptives were good at failing I'd be a dad by now or else me and the women I have been with are good with protection

Maybe they terminated and didn't tell you?I'll start the ball rolling tomorrow to find out "

You'll never ever know

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"294 veris I think a lot of wishes are getting granted too. "

Haha unfortunately the credit for that has to go to the very successful social event I ran for a couple of years

Thanks for nosing though

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan  over a year ago

Tipperary


"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk.

Do you not understand how many risks to a womans health and potentially life pregnancy in itself can entail??i heard that question been asked today elsewhere and the response was "don't get pregnant then".

Where would we all be then??I'm guessing the jist of the reply was, if you want a baby have one or try have one, if you don't,protect yourself and your partner against it.

Do you not realise contraception can fail? No contraception is 100% foolproof, except abstinence, and with being on this site alone I highly doubt anyone practises that lol if contraception can fail I'd be a father to about 20 kiss by now . joking aside I think if both parties take care it's all good. I'm a freak where contraception is concerned

Do you genuinely believe contraception is 100% reliable? I think if a woman finds the best contraceptive for her and a man uses a condom all will be good

ps. I await the replies of "oh we used condoms and other contraceptives with it and still got pregnant". as I said if contraceptives were good at failing I'd be a dad by now or else me and the women I have been with are good with protection

Maybe they terminated and didn't tell you?I'll start the ball rolling tomorrow to find out

You'll never ever know "

absolutely. it's what I have been saying all along. a man puts it there but ultimately gets no say in what happens

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk.

Do you not understand how many risks to a womans health and potentially life pregnancy in itself can entail??i heard that question been asked today elsewhere and the response was "don't get pregnant then".

Where would we all be then??I'm guessing the jist of the reply was, if you want a baby have one or try have one, if you don't,protect yourself and your partner against it.

Do you not realise contraception can fail? No contraception is 100% foolproof, except abstinence, and with being on this site alone I highly doubt anyone practises that lol if contraception can fail I'd be a father to about 20 kiss by now . joking aside I think if both parties take care it's all good. I'm a freak where contraception is concerned

Do you genuinely believe contraception is 100% reliable? I think if a woman finds the best contraceptive for her and a man uses a condom all will be good

ps. I await the replies of "oh we used condoms and other contraceptives with it and still got pregnant". as I said if contraceptives were good at failing I'd be a dad by now or else me and the women I have been with are good with protection

Maybe they terminated and didn't tell you?I'll start the ball rolling tomorrow to find out

You'll never ever know absolutely. it's what I have been saying all along. a man puts it there but ultimately gets no say in what happens "

Thankfully

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I didn't change the subject the UK lady used the "C" word she seems pretty agitated I merely tried to bring a little humour.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I didn't change the subject the UK lady used the "C" word she seems pretty agitated I merely tried to bring a little humour."

God no

Cunt is my favourite word, no sign of anger whatsoever

It's like my way of showing affection

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I didn't change the subject the UK lady used the "C" word she seems pretty agitated I merely tried to bring a little humour."

I'm glad you dropped the downs argument it was in poor taste

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By *exmark12Man  over a year ago

Rathcoole/Roscommon/Mayo

The county is usually governed by the majority view So majority rules I reckon.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I posted a link on the down syndrome statistics you must have chose to miss it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

And yes I'm wrong it's not 90% of downs are aborted it's 91%.

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By *eductively_SweetWoman  over a year ago

wexford


"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk.

Do you not understand how many risks to a womans health and potentially life pregnancy in itself can entail??i heard that question been asked today elsewhere and the response was "don't get pregnant then".

Where would we all be then??I'm guessing the jist of the reply was, if you want a baby have one or try have one, if you don't,protect yourself and your partner against it.

Do you not realise contraception can fail? No contraception is 100% foolproof, except abstinence, and with being on this site alone I highly doubt anyone practises that lol if contraception can fail I'd be a father to about 20 kiss by now . joking aside I think if both parties take care it's all good. I'm a freak where contraception is concerned

Do you genuinely believe contraception is 100% reliable? I think if a woman finds the best contraceptive for her and a man uses a condom all will be good

ps. I await the replies of "oh we used condoms and other contraceptives with it and still got pregnant". as I said if contraceptives were good at failing I'd be a dad by now or else me and the women I have been with are good with protection "

u seriously cannot be that naive even the coil isnt 100%

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By *j47Man  over a year ago

limerick


"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk.

Do you not understand how many risks to a womans health and potentially life pregnancy in itself can entail??i heard that question been asked today elsewhere and the response was "don't get pregnant then".

Where would we all be then??I'm guessing the jist of the reply was, if you want a baby have one or try have one, if you don't,protect yourself and your partner against it.

Do you not realise contraception can fail? No contraception is 100% foolproof, except abstinence, and with being on this site alone I highly doubt anyone practises that lol if contraception can fail I'd be a father to about 20 kiss by now . joking aside I think if both parties take care it's all good. I'm a freak where contraception is concerned

Do you genuinely believe contraception is 100% reliable? I think if a woman finds the best contraceptive for her and a man uses a condom all will be good

ps. I await the replies of "oh we used condoms and other contraceptives with it and still got pregnant". as I said if contraceptives were good at failing I'd be a dad by now or else me and the women I have been with are good with protection

u seriously cannot be that naive even the coil isnt 100% "

I honestly believe he is

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan  over a year ago

Tipperary


"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk.

Do you not understand how many risks to a womans health and potentially life pregnancy in itself can entail??i heard that question been asked today elsewhere and the response was "don't get pregnant then".

Where would we all be then??I'm guessing the jist of the reply was, if you want a baby have one or try have one, if you don't,protect yourself and your partner against it.

Do you not realise contraception can fail? No contraception is 100% foolproof, except abstinence, and with being on this site alone I highly doubt anyone practises that lol if contraception can fail I'd be a father to about 20 kiss by now . joking aside I think if both parties take care it's all good. I'm a freak where contraception is concerned

Do you genuinely believe contraception is 100% reliable? I think if a woman finds the best contraceptive for her and a man uses a condom all will be good

ps. I await the replies of "oh we used condoms and other contraceptives with it and still got pregnant". as I said if contraceptives were good at failing I'd be a dad by now or else me and the women I have been with are good with protection

u seriously cannot be that naive even the coil isnt 100% "

I must be a father double times over by now so

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By *trawberryCutieWoman  over a year ago

Dublin

Its important that people use there vote . if its for a yes or if it is for a no . The people that don't vote piss me off more

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By *eductively_SweetWoman  over a year ago

wexford


"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk.

Do you not understand how many risks to a womans health and potentially life pregnancy in itself can entail??i heard that question been asked today elsewhere and the response was "don't get pregnant then".

Where would we all be then??I'm guessing the jist of the reply was, if you want a baby have one or try have one, if you don't,protect yourself and your partner against it.

Do you not realise contraception can fail? No contraception is 100% foolproof, except abstinence, and with being on this site alone I highly doubt anyone practises that lol if contraception can fail I'd be a father to about 20 kiss by now . joking aside I think if both parties take care it's all good. I'm a freak where contraception is concerned

Do you genuinely believe contraception is 100% reliable? I think if a woman finds the best contraceptive for her and a man uses a condom all will be good

ps. I await the replies of "oh we used condoms and other contraceptives with it and still got pregnant". as I said if contraceptives were good at failing I'd be a dad by now or else me and the women I have been with are good with protection

u seriously cannot be that naive even the coil isnt 100% I must be a father double times over by now so "

and they choose not to tell u

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan  over a year ago

Tipperary


"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk.

Do you not understand how many risks to a womans health and potentially life pregnancy in itself can entail??i heard that question been asked today elsewhere and the response was "don't get pregnant then".

Where would we all be then??I'm guessing the jist of the reply was, if you want a baby have one or try have one, if you don't,protect yourself and your partner against it.

Do you not realise contraception can fail? No contraception is 100% foolproof, except abstinence, and with being on this site alone I highly doubt anyone practises that lol if contraception can fail I'd be a father to about 20 kiss by now . joking aside I think if both parties take care it's all good. I'm a freak where contraception is concerned

Do you genuinely believe contraception is 100% reliable? I think if a woman finds the best contraceptive for her and a man uses a condom all will be good

ps. I await the replies of "oh we used condoms and other contraceptives with it and still got pregnant". as I said if contraceptives were good at failing I'd be a dad by now or else me and the women I have been with are good with protection

u seriously cannot be that naive even the coil isnt 100% "

naive is the woman who sleeps with her partner and says "you're okay, I'm on a contraceptive you don't need to use a condom"

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By *eductively_SweetWoman  over a year ago

wexford


"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk.

Do you not understand how many risks to a womans health and potentially life pregnancy in itself can entail??i heard that question been asked today elsewhere and the response was "don't get pregnant then".

Where would we all be then??I'm guessing the jist of the reply was, if you want a baby have one or try have one, if you don't,protect yourself and your partner against it.

Do you not realise contraception can fail? No contraception is 100% foolproof, except abstinence, and with being on this site alone I highly doubt anyone practises that lol if contraception can fail I'd be a father to about 20 kiss by now . joking aside I think if both parties take care it's all good. I'm a freak where contraception is concerned

Do you genuinely believe contraception is 100% reliable? I think if a woman finds the best contraceptive for her and a man uses a condom all will be good

ps. I await the replies of "oh we used condoms and other contraceptives with it and still got pregnant". as I said if contraceptives were good at failing I'd be a dad by now or else me and the women I have been with are good with protection

u seriously cannot be that naive even the coil isnt 100% naive is the woman who sleeps with her partner and says "you're okay, I'm on a contraceptive you don't need to use a condom""

naive is the man who believes choose the right one and ur safe

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan  over a year ago

Tipperary


"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk.

Do you not understand how many risks to a womans health and potentially life pregnancy in itself can entail??i heard that question been asked today elsewhere and the response was "don't get pregnant then".

Where would we all be then??I'm guessing the jist of the reply was, if you want a baby have one or try have one, if you don't,protect yourself and your partner against it.

Do you not realise contraception can fail? No contraception is 100% foolproof, except abstinence, and with being on this site alone I highly doubt anyone practises that lol if contraception can fail I'd be a father to about 20 kiss by now . joking aside I think if both parties take care it's all good. I'm a freak where contraception is concerned

Do you genuinely believe contraception is 100% reliable? I think if a woman finds the best contraceptive for her and a man uses a condom all will be good

ps. I await the replies of "oh we used condoms and other contraceptives with it and still got pregnant". as I said if contraceptives were good at failing I'd be a dad by now or else me and the women I have been with are good with protection

u seriously cannot be that naive even the coil isnt 100% I must be a father double times over by now so

and they choose not to tell u "

thank the Lord

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By *eductively_SweetWoman  over a year ago

wexford


"what some people are afraid of is you vote yes to this it opens cans of worms down the line. people in Ireland, most people want abortion but alot only want it in certain cases e.g. foetal abnormality, mother's life at risk, r..e. alot don't want abortion where you have a child conceived consenually and nobody's life is at risk.

Do you not understand how many risks to a womans health and potentially life pregnancy in itself can entail??i heard that question been asked today elsewhere and the response was "don't get pregnant then".

Where would we all be then??I'm guessing the jist of the reply was, if you want a baby have one or try have one, if you don't,protect yourself and your partner against it.

Do you not realise contraception can fail? No contraception is 100% foolproof, except abstinence, and with being on this site alone I highly doubt anyone practises that lol if contraception can fail I'd be a father to about 20 kiss by now . joking aside I think if both parties take care it's all good. I'm a freak where contraception is concerned

Do you genuinely believe contraception is 100% reliable? I think if a woman finds the best contraceptive for her and a man uses a condom all will be good

ps. I await the replies of "oh we used condoms and other contraceptives with it and still got pregnant". as I said if contraceptives were good at failing I'd be a dad by now or else me and the women I have been with are good with protection

u seriously cannot be that naive even the coil isnt 100% I must be a father double times over by now so

and they choose not to tell u thank the Lord "

here here

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"And yes I'm wrong it's not 90% of downs are aborted it's 91%. "

The so called paper the article is based on is not accessible and well the journal.ie has never been and never will be a source of reputable medical fact.

Please do not bring down down syndrome into this. Down Syndrome Ireland asked at the start but the No side ignored and its sickening.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan  over a year ago

Tipperary

id love to do a survey if it was possible on how many "accidental" pregnancies came from one party not using contraception. id say it's huge. end of the day, the male protects himself, the female protects herself. problem in alot of cases is only one party uses the contraceptive.

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By *eductively_SweetWoman  over a year ago

wexford


"id love to do a survey if it was possible on how many "accidental" pregnancies came from one party not using contraception. id say it's huge. end of the day, the male protects himself, the female protects herself. problem in alot of cases is only one party uses the contraceptive. "

that should keep u busy no time like the present

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Dr Chris Kaposy does not speak for down syndrome Ireland.

Down syndrome Ireland has remained impartial.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan  over a year ago

Tipperary


"id love to do a survey if it was possible on how many "accidental" pregnancies came from one party not using contraception. id say it's huge. end of the day, the male protects himself, the female protects herself. problem in alot of cases is only one party uses the contraceptive.

that should keep u busy no time like the present "

the amount of shagging that's done on fab and the reported failures in contraception we must have a few babies by now. anyone pregnant? I don't want an invite to the baby shower but I'll fork out on a pressie to relieve the shock

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Just read the article on down syndrome Ireland there, people with down syndrome read the papers and are following the debate and they find it very upsetting that such high statistics of down syndrome babies are terminated.

Understandably so, it's horrible to think people don't want them.

I'm sure the government's campaign for a yes vote has nothing to do with the fact that down syndrome children cost the tax payers so much money.

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By *rDarcy37Man  over a year ago

lucan

Last one for the night. Remember people have faught and died for our right to vote.... that said make sure you exercise your right to VOTE.

Do the right thing.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm voting no

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm from the north so I can't vote unfortunately but I am backing the yes campaign for many reasons, one of my major reasons is if there is a yes vote then maybe it will get a referendum up here.which will get the Free Presbyterians knickers in a twist! So a big yes from me for hopefully in a years time up here I will be saying oh hell yes! Finally Ladies the world fought for the rights of women to vote, have rights and the ability to choose and have a voice and be heard!so raise your voices and make your choices for every generation of women following you! Xxx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Oh and by the way the orange order backed the no vote today! Which I found very interesting after what they have been associated with for so many years!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It's sad the lengths the so called Pro life supporters will go to. In 3 hours the polls open and history is to be made. Let's all go out there vote yes and give people the right to choose.

Vote yes

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

We live in a democratic country, so thankfully have the right to vote and "choose". Vote yes if you believe in the support, compassion and dignity of the women in this country. #Repeal the 8th

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By *rDarcy37Man  over a year ago

lucan


"We live in a democratic country, so thankfully have the right to vote and "choose". Vote yes if you believe in the support, compassion and dignity of the women in this country. #Repeal the 8th"

Here,here, couldn't have said it better myself

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