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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Don't know who Mr O is but he has very good points.

Single gents... And ladies ... take notice... a wee reminder ...

GUIDE FOR SINGLE GUYS ( perhaps it should be for all on here )

by Mr O.

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What’s the matter Billy? Getting ignored 'constantly' and getting down because of it? Thought this site was an easy way to get sex on demand with as many women as you want? Well unfortunately here is a nice reality check:

Imagine you saw a diamond sinking in a bog filled with faecal matter and urine. The diamond is worth LOTS of money and you definitely want to get it but have issues with the faecal matter and urine surrounding it. This is what women and couples on here have to deal with on a daily basis. They receive an absolute SEA OF SHIT in their inbox with the odd diamond that sometimes they miss due to it being absorbed in the sea. Please memorise the following points:

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1) YOU ARE THE MAJORITY ON HERE AND HAVE NO POWER

That means that you are the least desirable entity on the site. The BOTTOM of the food chain. You have to REALLY stand out from the crowd to get any sort of attention.

Go right now and search for men looking for women against women looking for men. Do not be surprised at the head count difference. Infact it is MORE then likely you will get a nice round '600' result for men seeking women. This is not the actual figure. This is the LIMIT to search results. I have no idea how far beyond 600 the actual numbers are but at a guess I would say 900+.

Couples and single ladies hold the power here. It's a simple fact. You should be thankful they even allow you to sign up here as a single male. If you can't stand this fact go back to the nightclub scene as the ratio is probably more balanced there!

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2) THIS IS, FOR THE MOST PART, A MATURE ADULT SITE

What that means is that most people on here do NOT respond to 'wanna f**k tonight luv?'. I should imagine that there ARE a few people here for purely endless multiple partners but I believe they generally get spammed to hell and back by mails, if you want to play sex lottery then go ahead.

You will find your experience here MUCH more enjoyable if you treat it as a social facility to meet interesting and mature people with the POSSIBILITY (NOT CERTAINTY) of having a play together at some point. As mentioned in point #1 if you are just looking for a shag you will probably have much more luck at a night club.

Most people are here to make friends and generally enjoy intimacy as sober as possible. Not get rat arsed and shag anything that moves. If enjoying the social company of one or more mature adults followed by getting intimate with them while mostly sober intimidates you then you may wish to return to the nightclub scene.

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3) SORT YOUR PROFILE OUT

Your profile defines who you are and what you are looking for. Get photo verified for god sake it's not bloody well hard! Do NOT upload a damn cockshot picture and set it as your primary and only image. So many single men do this... WHY? Do you think the women won't believe you’re a man or something? Get some damn tasteful body pictures up instead.

As for the text part- clearly define your availability, how far you can travel, when/if you can accommodate and anything else you feel that might make you unique and stand out. In other words JUST BE YOURSELF. If you are not yourself you will just find when you do meet up that you are very uncomfortable.

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4) THINK WITH YOUR BRAIN INSTEAD OF YOUR PENIS

This is a proper pro tip that I would highly recommend any of the younger single guys, in some cases the older ones! Rub one out to your favourite porno BEFORE contacting anyone on here. You will find that you will engage your brain rather than your penis when writing the mail and you will often find you’re really not interested in the couple or women that seemed so appealing an hour earlier due to their sexy pictures saving both you and them time and energy.

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5) FIRST CONTACT

The vast majority of the time YOU will have to do the chasing, with a nice profile you will occasionally get chased but it's rare. BEFORE YOU MAKE FIRST CONTACT READ THEIR FREAKING PROFILE IN FULL. If it specifies near the bottom age 30-45 and you are 29 for example then DO NOT contact them unless their profile states otherwise.

If you meet their requirements fully and send a first contact email MAKE IT FREAKING WELL POLITE AND WELL MANNERED. DO NOT put 'nice profile lets f**k' or anything that is classed as a 'one liner'. Set the subject as something like 'Pleased to meet you' and then the email structured in the same way you would write a business email. Express your interest in a few polite paragraphs and leave it at that. These are real people at the other end of the email not some random blow up dolls with internet access ffs!

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6) STOP CRYING IF YOU DONT GET A RESPONSE

I have seen this so much. If there is no response to their first contact email certain single men seem to get pissed off and start sending arrogant or bitchy emails. DO NOT DO THIS.

They did not respond because of two reasons: 1- they are not interested, no need to dig deep into the reasons but they simply were not right for you so just move on. or 2- they were planning to reply but had to check through 20+ other emails and forgot. You can thank your fellow single guys for point number 2.

If you really can't stand seeing 'read' then get nothing for weeks or 'deleted' without a response then simple fix: DELETE THE EMAIL IN SENT ITEMS INSTANTLY AFTER YOU SEND IT. Then forget about the person you sent it to until they choose to contact you.

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7) STOP CRYING IF YOU DO GET A POLITE NO THANK YOU RESPONSE

Christ guys if someone says 'thanks but you are too young' or 'thanks but you are not what we/I am looking for' just ACCEPT IT AND MOVE ON. IT IS NOT A PERSONAL ATTACK ON YOU UNLESS YOU MAKE IT ONE. You will never meet that person in real life and they had the decency to tell you where they stand with you so have the decency to NOT REPLY ANYMORE. Save your time and theirs and move the f**k on.

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8) STOP BEING PUSHY

This is a tricky one to describe but it is things like 'we should meet so I can do X on you' and 'I am free tonight lets meet' type things in emails every other line. I have experienced this first hand and it makes me feel uncomfortable so I should imagine it feels the same for couples and women.

THEY KNOW YOU WANT TO EVENTUALLY PLAY WITH THEM SO STOP BEGGING. Just let the emails and other chats flow naturally instead of enforcing that you should all meet ASAP. If they want to meet THEY WILL LET YOU KNOW.

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9) HONESTY

This is my little pet peeve so forgive me! As I am openly Bi (on the site at least!) I do get emails from many single guys from time to time that have 'straight' on their profile and when questioned they either stop responding or claim it’s so they can get 'more responses' from couples and women. For the love of god change it. If you WANT to have an encounter with a man sometime it means you are Bi-Curious. If you have HAD an experience with a man sometime and enjoyed it, it means you are bisexual, if you didn't enjoy it then straight is fine AND NO YOU ARE NOT GAY FOR TRYING. Please set your account as appropriate and just maybe people will become more accepting of male bisexuality.

Also be honest in your emails and profile. Don't claim to be someone or something you are not or you will end up associating with people that you are NOT comfortable with. If you are bi or curious and don't want single guys to chase you that's fine. Just block them all using the filter. You can still contact them if one takes your fancy.

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10) TURN UP FFS IF A TIME AND DATE HAS BEEN SET

The fabled 'timewaster' syndrome. Yes you were accepted to meet up with a woman or a couple, HAVE THE DECENCY TO SHOW UP. If you are not comfortable with getting intimate with them when the time comes JUST SAY NO THANKS. IT'S THAT SIMPLE. Not showing up leads to everyone getting pissed off whose time has been wasted. I can only assume that some single men don't turn up because they can't handle an adult conversation without the fuel of alcohol helping them out.

Man the f**k up and just meet the person or couple. They will NOT bite you or attack you or anything, you will find they will generally be polite, well mannered and make you feel comfortable. If you don't know what to say just talk to them like you would a work colleague, it's really not that hard. If you are nervous don't worry they/she will understand if they are/she is mature. They have been in your position at some point.

Naturally if they are arseholes in person just walk away and find someone else. If you are not comfortable with meeting strangers without the power of alcohol then I would suggest you go back to nightclubs.

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11) NO MEANS NO

I feel this one is relevant so thought I would include it. This is a golden rule in the lifestyle and as a single guy you are allowed to use it as well. If you are really uncomfortable just say 'no thanks' or 'sorry I’m too uncomfortable to do this'. It does NOT make you less of a man. If they point and laugh at you, or humiliate you, for saying such a thing then you deserve better. Leave immediately and block them without second thought. They are too immature.

Naturally if they say 'no' then you better back the f**k down and accept it. If they demand condoms you put a damn condom on. On the flip side if they demand bareback and you are not comfortable with that then walk away. Take control of yourself and always follow the golden rule.

Some of these comments may seem harsh.But they are reality.

Happy freaky fecking Friday

Red

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By *etergemmaCouple  over a year ago

South Dublin Area

Thats fantastic and completely accurate.

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By *kcoupleCouple  over a year ago

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On first reading this I thought Jesus the comparison is harsh. Then I looked back through our mail box from the last week... its pretty spot on OP

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Thats fantastic and completely accurate. "

I would have thought all of the above was general knowledge

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The tl.dr is "don't be a dick lads"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

That man fabs

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By *ingerrrrWoman  over a year ago

Meath

Love that, it should be mandatory reading for all newbies.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Singles especially men need help.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Love that, it should be mandatory reading for all newbies. "

Everyone need a refresher course from time to time.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It's good advice, but it sounds a bit condescending and smug to me.

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By *oghunter33Woman  over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

Tbh I only read the first few sentences and then scrolled over it. I know it's meant humorous but by the end of the day it's single man bashing and tarring all with the same brush.

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By *vpamelaTV/TS  over a year ago

kinkville

Great! Now all the dickheads and morons have the tools to hide their true persona.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Singles especially men need help.

"

I'd disagree with that on two counts.

First of all some people are beyond help and no amount of coaching and advice will change their attitude

Secondly, tarring all singles and especially men with the same brush is as inaccurate as a man saying, for example, that every single woman has ideas above their stations.

Still, the advice in the OP is good

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

So what you are saying is that I am a diamond?

All good points that I think I follow anyway.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

The post isn't perfect.

But has alot of valid points which apply to male and females.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Love that, it should be mandatory reading for all newbies. "

Is it not a bit prententious and even a little aggressive.

Yes there is an issue with pushy profiles who pay no attention to peoples preferences and requests... will these type of people read this post or change behaviour if they do.

Had I read this when I first joined ot probably would have put me off althogther. Which might ne great you have less single males.

Its a funny post but I wouldnt be using it as a site induction

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Having been on here as a single guy and a couple (poacher turned game keeper ) i'd say it was pretty accurate and very good advice

D

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By *LIRTWITHUSCouple  over a year ago

Chester

Not just singles but couples should read it, you can tell when the male half has messaged

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

What a pile of patronising shite.

There’s idiots across the board in here (M/F and Couples) who can’t string a proper sentence together.

I agree with the principle that women and to a lesser degree couples hold the “keys” on here.

What I don’t get is, if people are fed up with what’s hitting the mailbox etc then put all your filters up and then pro actively contact the men that interest you instead of putting up with all the crap that will inevitably be associated with a sex site and in turn your mailbox.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

That was a good read

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What a pile of patronising shite.

There’s idiots across the board in here (M/F and Couples) who can’t string a proper sentence together.

I agree with the principle that women and to a lesser degree couples hold the “keys” on here.

What I don’t get is, if people are fed up with what’s hitting the mailbox etc then put all your filters up and then pro actively contact the men that interest you instead of putting up with all the crap that will inevitably be associated with a sex site and in turn your mailbox.

"

Have to agree with these sentiments.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Found it as boring as long winded profiles people join here to meet like minded people for fun i think the 100 s of messages some people get even though they have no Profile pics etc can go to your head m&gs are the way to go for me do not bodder with cold calling anymore

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

That only apply's to the main land England. Over here were all a law un'to ourselves

Hardys rule book

1 first message " hello there how's she' cutting

2 so tell me are ya looking a bit a beef or a carpet muncher

3 are ya air brushed or have ya really 3 chin's

4 is hubby's tipping gear OnThe blink

5 coffee/tae do I need ta bring milk and hob nobs '"supply my own"

6 the front door or the back door

7 have ya a forest or a ski slope down there

8 do ya prefer durex or tesco's own brand

9 do I need a snorkel

10 do ya require help on or of the bed

That's it folks my Ten Commandments on fab it's stood me well so far

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By *s LollyWoman  over a year ago

The pub then supermacs ...


"That only apply's to the main land England. Over here were all a law un'to ourselves

Hardys rule book

1 first message " hello there how's she' cutting

2 so tell me are ya looking a bit a beef or a carpet muncher

3 are ya air brushed or have ya really 3 chin's

4 is hubby's tipping gear OnThe blink

5 coffee/tae do I need ta bring milk and hob nobs '"supply my own"

6 the front door or the back door

7 have ya a forest or a ski slope down there

8 do ya prefer durex or tesco's own brand

9 do I need a snorkel

10 do ya require help on or of the bed

That's it folks my Ten Commandments on fab it's stood me well so far "

Now that was funny as fuck love it!!!

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By *igBlondeDommeWoman  over a year ago

middle of nowhere

Going to sound like a scene from the life of Brian here but we're all individuals. It's single male bashing at best. There's idiots in all walks of life fab is no exception , it how you deal with them is key. I just focused on the word diamond.... I love a nice diamond.... just sayin.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Going to sound like a scene from the life of Brian here but we're all individuals. It's single male bashing at best. There's idiots in all walks of life fab is no exception , it how you deal with them is key. I just focused on the word diamond.... I love a nice diamond.... just sayin. "

Bonus points for a MP mention for you BBD

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By *ilderMan  over a year ago

dublin

It kinda comes across as man bashing to me

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Absolute waste of time and boring. Fact is there's lads that are nice, humorous and smart and there's lads that aren't BUT... there's also women that think they're gods gift because of the ratios. I'm gunna be me and me only. I'm not following what someone else tells me is perfect.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I wonder did the OP get the ride he inevitably hoped to get from posting it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I wonder did the OP get the ride he inevitably hoped to get from posting it "

Id fucking hope so the thing had 6 chapters he earned it

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I wonder did the OP get the ride he inevitably hoped to get from posting it "

Hes nowhere to be found

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By *igBlondeDommeWoman  over a year ago

middle of nowhere


"I wonder did the OP get the ride he inevitably hoped to get from posting it "

He was to tired for all that after writing an essay.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I wonder did the OP get the ride he inevitably hoped to get from posting it "

Such a cynic

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I remember posting something like that a few years ago..... Got absolutely slated

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By *oghunter33Woman  over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of


"I remember posting something like that a few years ago..... Got absolutely slated "

Oh I remember that one. You got chopped into small pieces. Sometimes we've to learn the hard way.

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By *aid backMan  over a year ago

by a lake with my rod out

Years ago I used to have a copy and paste reply for single guys looking for advice probably not a well written as that it was more bullet points nobody ever took it on board lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Years ago I used to have a copy and paste reply for single guys looking for advice probably not a well written as that it was more bullet points nobody ever took it on board lol"

I much prefer bullet points for my tiny single man brain

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I remember posting something like that a few years ago..... Got absolutely slated

Oh I remember that one. You got chopped into small pieces. Sometimes we've to learn the hard way. "

Don't tell folk what to do because they'll rip you a new one

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Thats fantastic and completely accurate.

I would have thought all of the above was general knowledge "

not number 10 and 11 on his list of pet hates because the amount of time wasters and no shows on the site is unreal

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Having been on here as a single guy and a couple (poacher turned game keeper ) i'd say it was pretty accurate and very good advice

D"

Now if this was about fakes it would suit u's . Especially ur fuck buddy K. How sad do u have to be to make up fake profiles to send other members abuse. Oh the irony ..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

There is time wasters and no shows with every category of fabber on here i org partys and couples and single ladys are the worst not to show up even though they text u 20 or 30 times before party and join kik chat and even text the morning of party to say cannot wait and guess what do not turn up and hide their profile for a day or two to me not showing up or texting is just bad manners

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Great! Now all the dickheads and morons have the tools to hide their true persona."
their gonna be dickheads anyway

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Singles especially men need help.

I'd disagree with that on two counts.

First of all some people are beyond help and no amount of coaching and advice will change their attitude

Secondly, tarring all singles and especially men with the same brush is as inaccurate as a man saying, for example, that every single woman has ideas above their stations.

Still, the advice in the OP is good "

sorry but i think he's hit the nail on the head on single guys with points 10 and 11...

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By *andsomeman100Man  over a year ago

Ah sure now...


"Great! Now all the dickheads and morons have the tools to hide their true persona."

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What a pile of patronising shite.

There’s idiots across the board in here (M/F and Couples) who can’t string a proper sentence together.

I agree with the principle that women and to a lesser degree couples hold the “keys” on here.

What I don’t get is, if people are fed up with what’s hitting the mailbox etc then put all your filters up and then pro actively contact the men that interest you instead of putting up with all the crap that will inevitably be associated with a sex site and in turn your mailbox.

"

Totally agree

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Wonder if it was 300 men to 10 women. Would it be a man posting this.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"There is time wasters and no shows with every category of fabber on here i org partys and couples and single ladys are the worst not to show up even though they text u 20 or 30 times before party and join kik chat and even text the morning of party to say cannot wait and guess what do not turn up and hide their profile for a day or two to me not showing up or texting is just bad manners "

Well verified members.

Yeah totally agree.

Some valid points.

I have a problem with men who can't take no for an answer.Hound me with "you haven't met me " blah blah, or keep sending messages even though I told them weeks/months before no.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There is time wasters and no shows with every category of fabber on here i org partys and couples and single ladys are the worst not to show up even though they text u 20 or 30 times before party and join kik chat and even text the morning of party to say cannot wait and guess what do not turn up and hide their profile for a day or two to me not showing up or texting is just bad manners

Well verified members.

Yeah totally agree.

Some valid points.

I have a problem with men who can't take no for an answer.Hound me with "you haven't met me " blah blah, or keep sending messages even though I told them weeks/months before no.

"

Block them if they are that annoying?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"There is time wasters and no shows with every category of fabber on here i org partys and couples and single ladys are the worst not to show up even though they text u 20 or 30 times before party and join kik chat and even text the morning of party to say cannot wait and guess what do not turn up and hide their profile for a day or two to me not showing up or texting is just bad manners

Well verified members.

Yeah totally agree.

Some valid points.

I have a problem with men who can't take no for an answer.Hound me with "you haven't met me " blah blah, or keep sending messages even though I told them weeks/months before no.

Block them if they are that annoying? "

I do.

Have filters in place to the teeth.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There is time wasters and no shows with every category of fabber on here i org partys and couples and single ladys are the worst not to show up even though they text u 20 or 30 times before party and join kik chat and even text the morning of party to say cannot wait and guess what do not turn up and hide their profile for a day or two to me not showing up or texting is just bad manners

Well verified members.

Yeah totally agree.

Some valid points.

I have a problem with men who can't take no for an answer.Hound me with "you haven't met me " blah blah, or keep sending messages even though I told them weeks/months before no.

"

This but not only men that can't take no for an answer, constant winks and stalking your profile

Another pet hate is when someone initiates a conversation but stops after the first message

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By *ichael McCarthyMan  over a year ago

Lucan

Meh.

Cock pics are the way forward.

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By *eductively_SweetWoman  over a year ago

wexford Dublin


"That only apply's to the main land England. Over here were all a law un'to ourselves

Hardys rule book

1 first message " hello there how's she' cutting

2 so tell me are ya looking a bit a beef or a carpet muncher

3 are ya air brushed or have ya really 3 chin's

4 is hubby's tipping gear OnThe blink

5 coffee/tae do I need ta bring milk and hob nobs '"supply my own"

6 the front door or the back door

7 have ya a forest or a ski slope down there

8 do ya prefer durex or tesco's own brand

9 do I need a snorkel

10 do ya require help on or of the bed

That's it folks my Ten Commandments on fab it's stood me well so far "

haha brilliant

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"That only apply's to the main land England. Over here were all a law un'to ourselves

Hardys rule book

1 first message " hello there how's she' cutting

2 so tell me are ya looking a bit a beef or a carpet muncher

3 are ya air brushed or have ya really 3 chin's

4 is hubby's tipping gear OnThe blink

5 coffee/tae do I need ta bring milk and hob nobs '"supply my own"

6 the front door or the back door

7 have ya a forest or a ski slope down there

8 do ya prefer durex or tesco's own brand

9 do I need a snorkel

10 do ya require help on or of the bed

That's it folks my Ten Commandments on fab it's stood me well so far

haha brilliant "

Bahahahahahaha love it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yea agree - someone’s got a poker up their arse likes the sound of their own voice and has too much time on their hands (not the OP btw she’s gorgeous)

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Personally I think for some of it, it was true in what he wrote.

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By *adame BWoman  over a year ago

C'est moi Boudoir


"What a pile of patronising shite.

There’s idiots across the board in here (M/F and Couples) who can’t string a proper sentence together.

I agree with the principle that women and to a lesser degree couples hold the “keys” on here.

What I don’t get is, if people are fed up with what’s hitting the mailbox etc then put all your filters up and then pro actively contact the men that interest you instead of putting up with all the crap that will inevitably be associated with a sex site and in turn your mailbox.

"

Bang on. You control your profile. You set your limits. Most will accept that, a few will act the idiot...not all!. This is life.

Be adults with common sense.

The comparison of a diamond among the shit is driving the divide to the other extreme. Ladies and couples are not above anyone in anything but ratio!

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By *eracityMan  over a year ago

the big smoke


"Meh.

Cock pics are the way forward. "

It’s the future!!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Love that, it should be mandatory reading for all newbies.

Everyone need a refresher course from time to time.

"

So do women and couples so not exclusive for single men. I've had a couple strange ones in the past hr. Most ladies send a hi or hey like ur profile. (So do I, I wrote it lol) Rarely explain any more and blood dried up quickly in the stone as few seem to converse very wwell.

I Id say what you posted is icommon knowledge......just many are chancers fed up with all their messages just being block deleted because the lady hasn't adjusted her filters very well.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Absolutely brilliant hopefully it will be read by some of the males in here

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By *j47Man  over a year ago

limerick


"Absolutely brilliant hopefully it will be read by some of the males in here"

Also cpls and ladies

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Absolutely brilliant hopefully it will be read by some of the males in here

Also cpls and ladies "

That it has

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By *oserMan  over a year ago

where the wild roses grow

I just look at the pictures

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By *ord Willy McFuck-BucketMan  over a year ago

newcastle

Couldn't be arsed reading it so could anyone who has tell me was there a tip for a horse hidden anywhere in that ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Couldn't be arsed reading it so could anyone who has tell me was there a tip for a horse hidden anywhere in that ?

"

Another one bites the dust

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I just look at the pictures "

You love the pictures

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I just look at the pictures "

Are we supposed to read profiles.... Ah feck it anyway

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

We are the majority and have no power,that's some power trippin shit right there all that's on this site is old women and men trying to put their old shit into each other. 100% some of the weirdest people I've ever come across is on this shit, people think if they are cunts to you that counts as a personality or an attitude when really it makes them look like a cunt pretty much. I'm sure that there is nice people on this but I haven't come across much, I am by no means giving out because I'm not getting any, and some smart people will obviously assume that what this about but no I have plenty of regular people to have fun with was expanding my options but this only brought women with attitude problems and men who lay down for them. If you enjoy this site you must be a female over 40 or a man who has no balls and likes to be treated like a second class citizen of a shit country. Anyway, enough rambling, this post is so fuckin stupid its funny, and half of the eejits agreeing are exactly what the problem with this site is, too many fuckin people think they are Mr or Mrs Grey when in reality they are more like Mr and Mrs bean. Hope this vexed the power trippin women and cuck men trying to defend them, thankfully I don't need this site and only wanted yo see what was on offer and I'm really not impressed by what I've seen, ciao dusty people

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By *ord Willy McFuck-BucketMan  over a year ago

newcastle


"Couldn't be arsed reading it so could anyone who has tell me was there a tip for a horse hidden anywhere in that ?

Another one bites the dust "

I can't see it anywhere, what race is it in?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"We are the majority and have no power,that's some power trippin shit right there all that's on this site is old women and men trying to put their old shit into each other. 100% some of the weirdest people I've ever come across is on this shit, people think if they are cunts to you that counts as a personality or an attitude when really it makes them look like a cunt pretty much. I'm sure that there is nice people on this but I haven't come across much, I am by no means giving out because I'm not getting any, and some smart people will obviously assume that what this about but no I have plenty of regular people to have fun with was expanding my options but this only brought women with attitude problems and men who lay down for them. If you enjoy this site you must be a female over 40 or a man who has no balls and likes to be treated like a second class citizen of a shit country. Anyway, enough rambling, this post is so fuckin stupid its funny, and half of the eejits agreeing are exactly what the problem with this site is, too many fuckin people think they are Mr or Mrs Grey when in reality they are more like Mr and Mrs bean. Hope this vexed the power trippin women and cuck men trying to defend them, thankfully I don't need this site and only wanted yo see what was on offer and I'm really not impressed by what I've seen, ciao dusty people "

Wow wow wow

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Wow wow wow "

when women understand that just because they are on a sex site and there is more men on it than them, doesn't make them sex goddesses and the most desired people ever, so there is absolutely no need to act as such. Get that into the heads of the dillusional and you might get somewhere with this otherwise you have the same thing of old women going off with either old men, young and dumb, a cuck man, or each other.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Don't know who Mr O is but he has very good points.

Single gents... And ladies ... take notice... a wee reminder ...

GUIDE FOR SINGLE GUYS ( perhaps it should be for all on here )

by Mr O.

=================-------------------------------

What’s the matter Billy? Getting ignored 'constantly' and getting down because of it? Thought this site was an easy way to get sex on demand with as many women as you want? Well unfortunately here is a nice reality check:

Imagine you saw a diamond sinking in a bog filled with faecal matter and urine. The diamond is worth LOTS of money and you definitely want to get it but have issues with the faecal matter and urine surrounding it. This is what women and couples on here have to deal with on a daily basis. They receive an absolute SEA OF SHIT in their inbox with the odd diamond that sometimes they miss due to it being absorbed in the sea. Please memorise the following points:

-----

1) YOU ARE THE MAJORITY ON HERE AND HAVE NO POWER

That means that you are the least desirable entity on the site. The BOTTOM of the food chain. You have to REALLY stand out from the crowd to get any sort of attention.

Go right now and search for men looking for women against women looking for men. Do not be surprised at the head count difference. Infact it is MORE then likely you will get a nice round '600' result for men seeking women. This is not the actual figure. This is the LIMIT to search results. I have no idea how far beyond 600 the actual numbers are but at a guess I would say 900+.

Couples and single ladies hold the power here. It's a simple fact. You should be thankful they even allow you to sign up here as a single male. If you can't stand this fact go back to the nightclub scene as the ratio is probably more balanced there!

-----

2) THIS IS, FOR THE MOST PART, A MATURE ADULT SITE

What that means is that most people on here do NOT respond to 'wanna f**k tonight luv?'. I should imagine that there ARE a few people here for purely endless multiple partners but I believe they generally get spammed to hell and back by mails, if you want to play sex lottery then go ahead.

You will find your experience here MUCH more enjoyable if you treat it as a social facility to meet interesting and mature people with the POSSIBILITY (NOT CERTAINTY) of having a play together at some point. As mentioned in point #1 if you are just looking for a shag you will probably have much more luck at a night club.

Most people are here to make friends and generally enjoy intimacy as sober as possible. Not get rat arsed and shag anything that moves. If enjoying the social company of one or more mature adults followed by getting intimate with them while mostly sober intimidates you then you may wish to return to the nightclub scene.

-----

3) SORT YOUR PROFILE OUT

Your profile defines who you are and what you are looking for. Get photo verified for god sake it's not bloody well hard! Do NOT upload a damn cockshot picture and set it as your primary and only image. So many single men do this... WHY? Do you think the women won't believe you’re a man or something? Get some damn tasteful body pictures up instead.

As for the text part- clearly define your availability, how far you can travel, when/if you can accommodate and anything else you feel that might make you unique and stand out. In other words JUST BE YOURSELF. If you are not yourself you will just find when you do meet up that you are very uncomfortable.

-----

4) THINK WITH YOUR BRAIN INSTEAD OF YOUR PENIS

This is a proper pro tip that I would highly recommend any of the younger single guys, in some cases the older ones! Rub one out to your favourite porno BEFORE contacting anyone on here. You will find that you will engage your brain rather than your penis when writing the mail and you will often find you’re really not interested in the couple or women that seemed so appealing an hour earlier due to their sexy pictures saving both you and them time and energy.

-----

5) FIRST CONTACT

The vast majority of the time YOU will have to do the chasing, with a nice profile you will occasionally get chased but it's rare. BEFORE YOU MAKE FIRST CONTACT READ THEIR FREAKING PROFILE IN FULL. If it specifies near the bottom age 30-45 and you are 29 for example then DO NOT contact them unless their profile states otherwise.

If you meet their requirements fully and send a first contact email MAKE IT FREAKING WELL POLITE AND WELL MANNERED. DO NOT put 'nice profile lets f**k' or anything that is classed as a 'one liner'. Set the subject as something like 'Pleased to meet you' and then the email structured in the same way you would write a business email. Express your interest in a few polite paragraphs and leave it at that. These are real people at the other end of the email not some random blow up dolls with internet access ffs!

-----

6) STOP CRYING IF YOU DONT GET A RESPONSE

I have seen this so much. If there is no response to their first contact email certain single men seem to get pissed off and start sending arrogant or bitchy emails. DO NOT DO THIS.

They did not respond because of two reasons: 1- they are not interested, no need to dig deep into the reasons but they simply were not right for you so just move on. or 2- they were planning to reply but had to check through 20+ other emails and forgot. You can thank your fellow single guys for point number 2.

If you really can't stand seeing 'read' then get nothing for weeks or 'deleted' without a response then simple fix: DELETE THE EMAIL IN SENT ITEMS INSTANTLY AFTER YOU SEND IT. Then forget about the person you sent it to until they choose to contact you.

-----

7) STOP CRYING IF YOU DO GET A POLITE NO THANK YOU RESPONSE

Christ guys if someone says 'thanks but you are too young' or 'thanks but you are not what we/I am looking for' just ACCEPT IT AND MOVE ON. IT IS NOT A PERSONAL ATTACK ON YOU UNLESS YOU MAKE IT ONE. You will never meet that person in real life and they had the decency to tell you where they stand with you so have the decency to NOT REPLY ANYMORE. Save your time and theirs and move the f**k on.

-----

8) STOP BEING PUSHY

This is a tricky one to describe but it is things like 'we should meet so I can do X on you' and 'I am free tonight lets meet' type things in emails every other line. I have experienced this first hand and it makes me feel uncomfortable so I should imagine it feels the same for couples and women.

THEY KNOW YOU WANT TO EVENTUALLY PLAY WITH THEM SO STOP BEGGING. Just let the emails and other chats flow naturally instead of enforcing that you should all meet ASAP. If they want to meet THEY WILL LET YOU KNOW.

-----

9) HONESTY

This is my little pet peeve so forgive me! As I am openly Bi (on the site at least!) I do get emails from many single guys from time to time that have 'straight' on their profile and when questioned they either stop responding or claim it’s so they can get 'more responses' from couples and women. For the love of god change it. If you WANT to have an encounter with a man sometime it means you are Bi-Curious. If you have HAD an experience with a man sometime and enjoyed it, it means you are bisexual, if you didn't enjoy it then straight is fine AND NO YOU ARE NOT GAY FOR TRYING. Please set your account as appropriate and just maybe people will become more accepting of male bisexuality.

Also be honest in your emails and profile. Don't claim to be someone or something you are not or you will end up associating with people that you are NOT comfortable with. If you are bi or curious and don't want single guys to chase you that's fine. Just block them all using the filter. You can still contact them if one takes your fancy.

-----

10) TURN UP FFS IF A TIME AND DATE HAS BEEN SET

The fabled 'timewaster' syndrome. Yes you were accepted to meet up with a woman or a couple, HAVE THE DECENCY TO SHOW UP. If you are not comfortable with getting intimate with them when the time comes JUST SAY NO THANKS. IT'S THAT SIMPLE. Not showing up leads to everyone getting pissed off whose time has been wasted. I can only assume that some single men don't turn up because they can't handle an adult conversation without the fuel of alcohol helping them out.

Man the f**k up and just meet the person or couple. They will NOT bite you or attack you or anything, you will find they will generally be polite, well mannered and make you feel comfortable. If you don't know what to say just talk to them like you would a work colleague, it's really not that hard. If you are nervous don't worry they/she will understand if they are/she is mature. They have been in your position at some point.

Naturally if they are arseholes in person just walk away and find someone else. If you are not comfortable with meeting strangers without the power of alcohol then I would suggest you go back to nightclubs.

-----

11) NO MEANS NO

I feel this one is relevant so thought I would include it. This is a golden rule in the lifestyle and as a single guy you are allowed to use it as well. If you are really uncomfortable just say 'no thanks' or 'sorry I’m too uncomfortable to do this'. It does NOT make you less of a man. If they point and laugh at you, or humiliate you, for saying such a thing then you deserve better. Leave immediately and block them without second thought. They are too immature.

Naturally if they say 'no' then you better back the f**k down and accept it. If they demand condoms you put a damn condom on. On the flip side if they demand bareback and you are not comfortable with that then walk away. Take control of yourself and always follow the golden rule.

Some of these comments may seem harsh.But they are reality.

Happy freaky fecking Friday

Red "

Sounds like a load of waffle to me.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

There's always some bloody know it all feels he should tell others how to do things.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There's always some bloody know it all feels he should tell others how to do things.

"

I know I used to be that know it all

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"We are the majority and have no power,that's some power trippin shit right there all that's on this site is old women and men trying to put their old shit into each other. 100% some of the weirdest people I've ever come across is on this shit, people think if they are cunts to you that counts as a personality or an attitude when really it makes them look like a cunt pretty much. I'm sure that there is nice people on this but I haven't come across much, I am by no means giving out because I'm not getting any, and some smart people will obviously assume that what this about but no I have plenty of regular people to have fun with was expanding my options but this only brought women with attitude problems and men who lay down for them. If you enjoy this site you must be a female over 40 or a man who has no balls and likes to be treated like a second class citizen of a shit country. Anyway, enough rambling, this post is so fuckin stupid its funny, and half of the eejits agreeing are exactly what the problem with this site is, too many fuckin people think they are Mr or Mrs Grey when in reality they are more like Mr and Mrs bean. Hope this vexed the power trippin women and cuck men trying to defend them, thankfully I don't need this site and only wanted yo see what was on offer and I'm really not impressed by what I've seen, ciao dusty people "

Joins sex site; doesn't get sex because he's a fud; flounces off in a girlie huff..

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By *oghunter33Woman  over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of


" all that's on this site is old women and men trying to put their old shit into each other. "

Hahaha pity he's gone, there was some entertainment value in his gerontophobic view.

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By *adame BWoman  over a year ago

C'est moi Boudoir


" all that's on this site is old women and men trying to put their old shit into each other.

Hahaha pity he's gone, there was some entertainment value in his gerontophobic view. "

Ciao dusty people! I love my lavender moth balls

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By *oghunter33Woman  over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of


" all that's on this site is old women and men trying to put their old shit into each other.

Hahaha pity he's gone, there was some entertainment value in his gerontophobic view.

Ciao dusty people! I love my lavender moth balls "

I urgently have to get some blue hair rinse

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Don't know who Mr O is but he has very good points.

Single gents... And ladies ... take notice... a wee reminder ...

GUIDE FOR SINGLE GUYS ( perhaps it should be for all on here )

by Mr O.

=================-------------------------------

What’s the matter Billy? Getting ignored 'constantly' and getting down because of it? Thought this site was an easy way to get sex on demand with as many women as you want? Well unfortunately here is a nice reality check:

Imagine you saw a diamond sinking in a bog filled with faecal matter and urine. The diamond is worth LOTS of money and you definitely want to get it but have issues with the faecal matter and urine surrounding it. This is what women and couples on here have to deal with on a daily basis. They receive an absolute SEA OF SHIT in their inbox with the odd diamond that sometimes they miss due to it being absorbed in the sea. Please memorise the following points:

-----

1) YOU ARE THE MAJORITY ON HERE AND HAVE NO POWER

That means that you are the least desirable entity on the site. The BOTTOM of the food chain. You have to REALLY stand out from the crowd to get any sort of attention.

Go right now and search for men looking for women against women looking for men. Do not be surprised at the head count difference. Infact it is MORE then likely you will get a nice round '600' result for men seeking women. This is not the actual figure. This is the LIMIT to search results. I have no idea how far beyond 600 the actual numbers are but at a guess I would say 900+.

Couples and single ladies hold the power here. It's a simple fact. You should be thankful they even allow you to sign up here as a single male. If you can't stand this fact go back to the nightclub scene as the ratio is probably more balanced there!

-----

2) THIS IS, FOR THE MOST PART, A MATURE ADULT SITE

What that means is that most people on here do NOT respond to 'wanna f**k tonight luv?'. I should imagine that there ARE a few people here for purely endless multiple partners but I believe they generally get spammed to hell and back by mails, if you want to play sex lottery then go ahead.

You will find your experience here MUCH more enjoyable if you treat it as a social facility to meet interesting and mature people with the POSSIBILITY (NOT CERTAINTY) of having a play together at some point. As mentioned in point #1 if you are just looking for a shag you will probably have much more luck at a night club.

Most people are here to make friends and generally enjoy intimacy as sober as possible. Not get rat arsed and shag anything that moves. If enjoying the social company of one or more mature adults followed by getting intimate with them while mostly sober intimidates you then you may wish to return to the nightclub scene.

-----

3) SORT YOUR PROFILE OUT

Your profile defines who you are and what you are looking for. Get photo verified for god sake it's not bloody well hard! Do NOT upload a damn cockshot picture and set it as your primary and only image. So many single men do this... WHY? Do you think the women won't believe you’re a man or something? Get some damn tasteful body pictures up instead.

As for the text part- clearly define your availability, how far you can travel, when/if you can accommodate and anything else you feel that might make you unique and stand out. In other words JUST BE YOURSELF. If you are not yourself you will just find when you do meet up that you are very uncomfortable.

-----

4) THINK WITH YOUR BRAIN INSTEAD OF YOUR PENIS

This is a proper pro tip that I would highly recommend any of the younger single guys, in some cases the older ones! Rub one out to your favourite porno BEFORE contacting anyone on here. You will find that you will engage your brain rather than your penis when writing the mail and you will often find you’re really not interested in the couple or women that seemed so appealing an hour earlier due to their sexy pictures saving both you and them time and energy.

-----

5) FIRST CONTACT

The vast majority of the time YOU will have to do the chasing, with a nice profile you will occasionally get chased but it's rare. BEFORE YOU MAKE FIRST CONTACT READ THEIR FREAKING PROFILE IN FULL. If it specifies near the bottom age 30-45 and you are 29 for example then DO NOT contact them unless their profile states otherwise.

If you meet their requirements fully and send a first contact email MAKE IT FREAKING WELL POLITE AND WELL MANNERED. DO NOT put 'nice profile lets f**k' or anything that is classed as a 'one liner'. Set the subject as something like 'Pleased to meet you' and then the email structured in the same way you would write a business email. Express your interest in a few polite paragraphs and leave it at that. These are real people at the other end of the email not some random blow up dolls with internet access ffs!

-----

6) STOP CRYING IF YOU DONT GET A RESPONSE

I have seen this so much. If there is no response to their first contact email certain single men seem to get pissed off and start sending arrogant or bitchy emails. DO NOT DO THIS.

They did not respond because of two reasons: 1- they are not interested, no need to dig deep into the reasons but they simply were not right for you so just move on. or 2- they were planning to reply but had to check through 20+ other emails and forgot. You can thank your fellow single guys for point number 2.

If you really can't stand seeing 'read' then get nothing for weeks or 'deleted' without a response then simple fix: DELETE THE EMAIL IN SENT ITEMS INSTANTLY AFTER YOU SEND IT. Then forget about the person you sent it to until they choose to contact you.

-----

7) STOP CRYING IF YOU DO GET A POLITE NO THANK YOU RESPONSE

Christ guys if someone says 'thanks but you are too young' or 'thanks but you are not what we/I am looking for' just ACCEPT IT AND MOVE ON. IT IS NOT A PERSONAL ATTACK ON YOU UNLESS YOU MAKE IT ONE. You will never meet that person in real life and they had the decency to tell you where they stand with you so have the decency to NOT REPLY ANYMORE. Save your time and theirs and move the f**k on.

-----

8) STOP BEING PUSHY

This is a tricky one to describe but it is things like 'we should meet so I can do X on you' and 'I am free tonight lets meet' type things in emails every other line. I have experienced this first hand and it makes me feel uncomfortable so I should imagine it feels the same for couples and women.

THEY KNOW YOU WANT TO EVENTUALLY PLAY WITH THEM SO STOP BEGGING. Just let the emails and other chats flow naturally instead of enforcing that you should all meet ASAP. If they want to meet THEY WILL LET YOU KNOW.

-----

9) HONESTY

This is my little pet peeve so forgive me! As I am openly Bi (on the site at least!) I do get emails from many single guys from time to time that have 'straight' on their profile and when questioned they either stop responding or claim it’s so they can get 'more responses' from couples and women. For the love of god change it. If you WANT to have an encounter with a man sometime it means you are Bi-Curious. If you have HAD an experience with a man sometime and enjoyed it, it means you are bisexual, if you didn't enjoy it then straight is fine AND NO YOU ARE NOT GAY FOR TRYING. Please set your account as appropriate and just maybe people will become more accepting of male bisexuality.

Also be honest in your emails and profile. Don't claim to be someone or something you are not or you will end up associating with people that you are NOT comfortable with. If you are bi or curious and don't want single guys to chase you that's fine. Just block them all using the filter. You can still contact them if one takes your fancy.

-----

10) TURN UP FFS IF A TIME AND DATE HAS BEEN SET

The fabled 'timewaster' syndrome. Yes you were accepted to meet up with a woman or a couple, HAVE THE DECENCY TO SHOW UP. If you are not comfortable with getting intimate with them when the time comes JUST SAY NO THANKS. IT'S THAT SIMPLE. Not showing up leads to everyone getting pissed off whose time has been wasted. I can only assume that some single men don't turn up because they can't handle an adult conversation without the fuel of alcohol helping them out.

Man the f**k up and just meet the person or couple. They will NOT bite you or attack you or anything, you will find they will generally be polite, well mannered and make you feel comfortable. If you don't know what to say just talk to them like you would a work colleague, it's really not that hard. If you are nervous don't worry they/she will understand if they are/she is mature. They have been in your position at some point.

Naturally if they are arseholes in person just walk away and find someone else. If you are not comfortable with meeting strangers without the power of alcohol then I would suggest you go back to nightclubs.

-----

11) NO MEANS NO

I feel this one is relevant so thought I would include it. This is a golden rule in the lifestyle and as a single guy you are allowed to use it as well. If you are really uncomfortable just say 'no thanks' or 'sorry I’m too uncomfortable to do this'. It does NOT make you less of a man. If they point and laugh at you, or humiliate you, for saying such a thing then you deserve better. Leave immediately and block them without second thought. They are too immature.

Naturally if they say 'no' then you better back the f**k down and accept it. If they demand condoms you put a damn condom on. On the flip side if they demand bareback and you are not comfortable with that then walk away. Take control of yourself and always follow the golden rule.

Some of these comments may seem harsh.But they are reality.

Happy freaky fecking Friday

Red Sounds like a load of waffle to me."

Most of it is,bar number 10 that is definitely true

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By *iffaWoman  over a year ago

wherever

Plenty of couple profiles should read this too

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By *ysteryman2009Man  over a year ago

Ireland

Congatulations to the author and you for reposting this litterary master piece.

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By *en474Man  over a year ago

antrim

Works both ways, as well, a lot of couples let single guys down, but nothing ever said

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It's a cold, hard fact that sites like Fab are a numbers game and as a single guy, the numbers are not your friend; single girls are top of the food chain, couples close behind, with guys a very distant third. There's little point in getting bent out of shape about it, deal with it or move on, and I say that as a former single guy.

The OP's post, while condesending and long AF, contains a lot of truth. The simple fact is, a single guy has to be better than everybody else.

My advice? Be yourself, show some personality, read profiles before messaging (this will get you a lot of brownie points!), and most importantly.. dont be a dick

D

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By *j47Man  over a year ago

limerick


"Works both ways, as well, a lot of couples let single guys down, but nothing ever said "

Suuussshhh ull be called a whinger

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Unfortunately single guys get a bad rep because of the amount of bad apples which ruin it for most.

Couples and single females aren't innocent in this either.

But it's mainly single guys.

There are more to fuck things up for the rest.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Unfortunately single guys get a bad rep because of the amount of bad apples which ruin it for most.

Couples and single females aren't innocent in this either.

But it's mainly single guys.

There are more to fuck things up for the rest. "

I still don't get the point that a bad apple ruins it for everybody else. It doesn't. An idiot is an idiot, be it male or female. It doesn't make all males idiots and it doesn't make all women poor helpless creatures who can't see an ass is an ass.

There are loads of amazing people on this site, that's where my focus lies, not on the ones who ruled themselves out before they even started.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

But this is a ratio thing

Ignoring actual numbers - as a percentage of total profile types (M / F and MF) I reckon the % of “bad apples” would be fairly even across the board, it just happens that there are a lot more single M profiles.

As a guy, I’ve had mails from all profile types at some point or another and I can hand on heart say that the worst are from couples.

Does that mean I should write a long winded post about how couples should show some respect to single guys and not talk to them like they are a walking penis who should be ever so grateful that they may deem it appropriate to let the guy play with them ? No of course not because plenty of couples know how to talk with manners and respect as do plenty of single guys.

The original post has some valid points but it’s plain and simple man bashing from some idiot who thought he would try and white knight his way to a ride.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"That only apply's to the main land England. Over here were all a law un'to ourselves

Hardys rule book

1 first message " hello there how's she' cutting

2 so tell me are ya looking a bit a beef or a carpet muncher

3 are ya air brushed or have ya really 3 chin's

4 is hubby's tipping gear OnThe blink

5 coffee/tae do I need ta bring milk and hob nobs '"supply my own"

6 the front door or the back door

7 have ya a forest or a ski slope down there

8 do ya prefer durex or tesco's own brand

9 do I need a snorkel

10 do ya require help on or of the bed

That's it folks my Ten Commandments on fab it's stood me well so far "

So funny

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By *ohnandGemCouple  over a year ago

Louth/Meath/Dublin

Basically you can sum it up with:

1. Be attractive

2. Don't be unattractive

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Don't know who Mr O is but he has very good points.

Single gents... And ladies ... take notice... a wee reminder ...

GUIDE FOR SINGLE GUYS ( perhaps it should be for all on here )

by Mr O.

=================-------------------------------

What’s the matter Billy? Getting ignored 'constantly' and getting down because of it? Thought this site was an easy way to get sex on demand with as many women as you want? Well unfortunately here is a nice reality check:

Imagine you saw a diamond sinking in a bog filled with faecal matter and urine. The diamond is worth LOTS of money and you definitely want to get it but have issues with the faecal matter and urine surrounding it. This is what women and couples on here have to deal with on a daily basis. They receive an absolute SEA OF SHIT in their inbox with the odd diamond that sometimes they miss due to it being absorbed in the sea. Please memorise the following points:

-----

1) YOU ARE THE MAJORITY ON HERE AND HAVE NO POWER

That means that you are the least desirable entity on the site. The BOTTOM of the food chain. You have to REALLY stand out from the crowd to get any sort of attention.

Go right now and search for men looking for women against women looking for men. Do not be surprised at the head count difference. Infact it is MORE then likely you will get a nice round '600' result for men seeking women. This is not the actual figure. This is the LIMIT to search results. I have no idea how far beyond 600 the actual numbers are but at a guess I would say 900+.

Couples and single ladies hold the power here. It's a simple fact. You should be thankful they even allow you to sign up here as a single male. If you can't stand this fact go back to the nightclub scene as the ratio is probably more balanced there!

-----

2) THIS IS, FOR THE MOST PART, A MATURE ADULT SITE

What that means is that most people on here do NOT respond to 'wanna f**k tonight luv?'. I should imagine that there ARE a few people here for purely endless multiple partners but I believe they generally get spammed to hell and back by mails, if you want to play sex lottery then go ahead.

You will find your experience here MUCH more enjoyable if you treat it as a social facility to meet interesting and mature people with the POSSIBILITY (NOT CERTAINTY) of having a play together at some point. As mentioned in point #1 if you are just looking for a shag you will probably have much more luck at a night club.

Most people are here to make friends and generally enjoy intimacy as sober as possible. Not get rat arsed and shag anything that moves. If enjoying the social company of one or more mature adults followed by getting intimate with them while mostly sober intimidates you then you may wish to return to the nightclub scene.

-----

3) SORT YOUR PROFILE OUT

Your profile defines who you are and what you are looking for. Get photo verified for god sake it's not bloody well hard! Do NOT upload a damn cockshot picture and set it as your primary and only image. So many single men do this... WHY? Do you think the women won't believe you’re a man or something? Get some damn tasteful body pictures up instead.

As for the text part- clearly define your availability, how far you can travel, when/if you can accommodate and anything else you feel that might make you unique and stand out. In other words JUST BE YOURSELF. If you are not yourself you will just find when you do meet up that you are very uncomfortable.

-----

4) THINK WITH YOUR BRAIN INSTEAD OF YOUR PENIS

This is a proper pro tip that I would highly recommend any of the younger single guys, in some cases the older ones! Rub one out to your favourite porno BEFORE contacting anyone on here. You will find that you will engage your brain rather than your penis when writing the mail and you will often find you’re really not interested in the couple or women that seemed so appealing an hour earlier due to their sexy pictures saving both you and them time and energy.

-----

5) FIRST CONTACT

The vast majority of the time YOU will have to do the chasing, with a nice profile you will occasionally get chased but it's rare. BEFORE YOU MAKE FIRST CONTACT READ THEIR FREAKING PROFILE IN FULL. If it specifies near the bottom age 30-45 and you are 29 for example then DO NOT contact them unless their profile states otherwise.

If you meet their requirements fully and send a first contact email MAKE IT FREAKING WELL POLITE AND WELL MANNERED. DO NOT put 'nice profile lets f**k' or anything that is classed as a 'one liner'. Set the subject as something like 'Pleased to meet you' and then the email structured in the same way you would write a business email. Express your interest in a few polite paragraphs and leave it at that. These are real people at the other end of the email not some random blow up dolls with internet access ffs!

-----

6) STOP CRYING IF YOU DONT GET A RESPONSE

I have seen this so much. If there is no response to their first contact email certain single men seem to get pissed off and start sending arrogant or bitchy emails. DO NOT DO THIS.

They did not respond because of two reasons: 1- they are not interested, no need to dig deep into the reasons but they simply were not right for you so just move on. or 2- they were planning to reply but had to check through 20+ other emails and forgot. You can thank your fellow single guys for point number 2.

If you really can't stand seeing 'read' then get nothing for weeks or 'deleted' without a response then simple fix: DELETE THE EMAIL IN SENT ITEMS INSTANTLY AFTER YOU SEND IT. Then forget about the person you sent it to until they choose to contact you.

-----

7) STOP CRYING IF YOU DO GET A POLITE NO THANK YOU RESPONSE

Christ guys if someone says 'thanks but you are too young' or 'thanks but you are not what we/I am looking for' just ACCEPT IT AND MOVE ON. IT IS NOT A PERSONAL ATTACK ON YOU UNLESS YOU MAKE IT ONE. You will never meet that person in real life and they had the decency to tell you where they stand with you so have the decency to NOT REPLY ANYMORE. Save your time and theirs and move the f**k on.

-----

8) STOP BEING PUSHY

This is a tricky one to describe but it is things like 'we should meet so I can do X on you' and 'I am free tonight lets meet' type things in emails every other line. I have experienced this first hand and it makes me feel uncomfortable so I should imagine it feels the same for couples and women.

THEY KNOW YOU WANT TO EVENTUALLY PLAY WITH THEM SO STOP BEGGING. Just let the emails and other chats flow naturally instead of enforcing that you should all meet ASAP. If they want to meet THEY WILL LET YOU KNOW.

-----

9) HONESTY

This is my little pet peeve so forgive me! As I am openly Bi (on the site at least!) I do get emails from many single guys from time to time that have 'straight' on their profile and when questioned they either stop responding or claim it’s so they can get 'more responses' from couples and women. For the love of god change it. If you WANT to have an encounter with a man sometime it means you are Bi-Curious. If you have HAD an experience with a man sometime and enjoyed it, it means you are bisexual, if you didn't enjoy it then straight is fine AND NO YOU ARE NOT GAY FOR TRYING. Please set your account as appropriate and just maybe people will become more accepting of male bisexuality.

Also be honest in your emails and profile. Don't claim to be someone or something you are not or you will end up associating with people that you are NOT comfortable with. If you are bi or curious and don't want single guys to chase you that's fine. Just block them all using the filter. You can still contact them if one takes your fancy.

-----

10) TURN UP FFS IF A TIME AND DATE HAS BEEN SET

The fabled 'timewaster' syndrome. Yes you were accepted to meet up with a woman or a couple, HAVE THE DECENCY TO SHOW UP. If you are not comfortable with getting intimate with them when the time comes JUST SAY NO THANKS. IT'S THAT SIMPLE. Not showing up leads to everyone getting pissed off whose time has been wasted. I can only assume that some single men don't turn up because they can't handle an adult conversation without the fuel of alcohol helping them out.

Man the f**k up and just meet the person or couple. They will NOT bite you or attack you or anything, you will find they will generally be polite, well mannered and make you feel comfortable. If you don't know what to say just talk to them like you would a work colleague, it's really not that hard. If you are nervous don't worry they/she will understand if they are/she is mature. They have been in your position at some point.

Naturally if they are arseholes in person just walk away and find someone else. If you are not comfortable with meeting strangers without the power of alcohol then I would suggest you go back to nightclubs.

-----

11) NO MEANS NO

I feel this one is relevant so thought I would include it. This is a golden rule in the lifestyle and as a single guy you are allowed to use it as well. If you are really uncomfortable just say 'no thanks' or 'sorry I’m too uncomfortable to do this'. It does NOT make you less of a man. If they point and laugh at you, or humiliate you, for saying such a thing then you deserve better. Leave immediately and block them without second thought. They are too immature.

Naturally if they say 'no' then you better back the f**k down and accept it. If they demand condoms you put a damn condom on. On the flip side if they demand bareback and you are not comfortable with that then walk away. Take control of yourself and always follow the golden rule.

Some of these comments may seem harsh.But they are reality.

Happy freaky fecking Friday

Red "

Single women and couples wait until it raining and you're looking for a taxi and it's hundreds of other people looking for taxis revenge will be mine

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Don't know who Mr O is but he has very good points.

Single gents... And ladies ... take notice... a wee reminder ...

GUIDE FOR SINGLE GUYS ( perhaps it should be for all on here )

by Mr O.

=================-------------------------------

What’s the matter Billy? Getting ignored 'constantly' and getting down because of it? Thought this site was an easy way to get sex on demand with as many women as you want? Well unfortunately here is a nice reality check:

Imagine you saw a diamond sinking in a bog filled with faecal matter and urine. The diamond is worth LOTS of money and you definitely want to get it but have issues with the faecal matter and urine surrounding it. This is what women and couples on here have to deal with on a daily basis. They receive an absolute SEA OF SHIT in their inbox with the odd diamond that sometimes they miss due to it being absorbed in the sea. Please memorise the following points:

-----

1) YOU ARE THE MAJORITY ON HERE AND HAVE NO POWER

That means that you are the least desirable entity on the site. The BOTTOM of the food chain. You have to REALLY stand out from the crowd to get any sort of attention.

Go right now and search for men looking for women against women looking for men. Do not be surprised at the head count difference. Infact it is MORE then likely you will get a nice round '600' result for men seeking women. This is not the actual figure. This is the LIMIT to search results. I have no idea how far beyond 600 the actual numbers are but at a guess I would say 900+.

Couples and single ladies hold the power here. It's a simple fact. You should be thankful they even allow you to sign up here as a single male. If you can't stand this fact go back to the nightclub scene as the ratio is probably more balanced there!

-----

2) THIS IS, FOR THE MOST PART, A MATURE ADULT SITE

What that means is that most people on here do NOT respond to 'wanna f**k tonight luv?'. I should imagine that there ARE a few people here for purely endless multiple partners but I believe they generally get spammed to hell and back by mails, if you want to play sex lottery then go ahead.

You will find your experience here MUCH more enjoyable if you treat it as a social facility to meet interesting and mature people with the POSSIBILITY (NOT CERTAINTY) of having a play together at some point. As mentioned in point #1 if you are just looking for a shag you will probably have much more luck at a night club.

Most people are here to make friends and generally enjoy intimacy as sober as possible. Not get rat arsed and shag anything that moves. If enjoying the social company of one or more mature adults followed by getting intimate with them while mostly sober intimidates you then you may wish to return to the nightclub scene.

-----

3) SORT YOUR PROFILE OUT

Your profile defines who you are and what you are looking for. Get photo verified for god sake it's not bloody well hard! Do NOT upload a damn cockshot picture and set it as your primary and only image. So many single men do this... WHY? Do you think the women won't believe you’re a man or something? Get some damn tasteful body pictures up instead.

As for the text part- clearly define your availability, how far you can travel, when/if you can accommodate and anything else you feel that might make you unique and stand out. In other words JUST BE YOURSELF. If you are not yourself you will just find when you do meet up that you are very uncomfortable.

-----

4) THINK WITH YOUR BRAIN INSTEAD OF YOUR PENIS

This is a proper pro tip that I would highly recommend any of the younger single guys, in some cases the older ones! Rub one out to your favourite porno BEFORE contacting anyone on here. You will find that you will engage your brain rather than your penis when writing the mail and you will often find you’re really not interested in the couple or women that seemed so appealing an hour earlier due to their sexy pictures saving both you and them time and energy.

-----

5) FIRST CONTACT

The vast majority of the time YOU will have to do the chasing, with a nice profile you will occasionally get chased but it's rare. BEFORE YOU MAKE FIRST CONTACT READ THEIR FREAKING PROFILE IN FULL. If it specifies near the bottom age 30-45 and you are 29 for example then DO NOT contact them unless their profile states otherwise.

If you meet their requirements fully and send a first contact email MAKE IT FREAKING WELL POLITE AND WELL MANNERED. DO NOT put 'nice profile lets f**k' or anything that is classed as a 'one liner'. Set the subject as something like 'Pleased to meet you' and then the email structured in the same way you would write a business email. Express your interest in a few polite paragraphs and leave it at that. These are real people at the other end of the email not some random blow up dolls with internet access ffs!

-----

6) STOP CRYING IF YOU DONT GET A RESPONSE

I have seen this so much. If there is no response to their first contact email certain single men seem to get pissed off and start sending arrogant or bitchy emails. DO NOT DO THIS.

They did not respond because of two reasons: 1- they are not interested, no need to dig deep into the reasons but they simply were not right for you so just move on. or 2- they were planning to reply but had to check through 20+ other emails and forgot. You can thank your fellow single guys for point number 2.

If you really can't stand seeing 'read' then get nothing for weeks or 'deleted' without a response then simple fix: DELETE THE EMAIL IN SENT ITEMS INSTANTLY AFTER YOU SEND IT. Then forget about the person you sent it to until they choose to contact you.

-----

7) STOP CRYING IF YOU DO GET A POLITE NO THANK YOU RESPONSE

Christ guys if someone says 'thanks but you are too young' or 'thanks but you are not what we/I am looking for' just ACCEPT IT AND MOVE ON. IT IS NOT A PERSONAL ATTACK ON YOU UNLESS YOU MAKE IT ONE. You will never meet that person in real life and they had the decency to tell you where they stand with you so have the decency to NOT REPLY ANYMORE. Save your time and theirs and move the f**k on.

-----

8) STOP BEING PUSHY

This is a tricky one to describe but it is things like 'we should meet so I can do X on you' and 'I am free tonight lets meet' type things in emails every other line. I have experienced this first hand and it makes me feel uncomfortable so I should imagine it feels the same for couples and women.

THEY KNOW YOU WANT TO EVENTUALLY PLAY WITH THEM SO STOP BEGGING. Just let the emails and other chats flow naturally instead of enforcing that you should all meet ASAP. If they want to meet THEY WILL LET YOU KNOW.

-----

9) HONESTY

This is my little pet peeve so forgive me! As I am openly Bi (on the site at least!) I do get emails from many single guys from time to time that have 'straight' on their profile and when questioned they either stop responding or claim it’s so they can get 'more responses' from couples and women. For the love of god change it. If you WANT to have an encounter with a man sometime it means you are Bi-Curious. If you have HAD an experience with a man sometime and enjoyed it, it means you are bisexual, if you didn't enjoy it then straight is fine AND NO YOU ARE NOT GAY FOR TRYING. Please set your account as appropriate and just maybe people will become more accepting of male bisexuality.

Also be honest in your emails and profile. Don't claim to be someone or something you are not or you will end up associating with people that you are NOT comfortable with. If you are bi or curious and don't want single guys to chase you that's fine. Just block them all using the filter. You can still contact them if one takes your fancy.

-----

10) TURN UP FFS IF A TIME AND DATE HAS BEEN SET

The fabled 'timewaster' syndrome. Yes you were accepted to meet up with a woman or a couple, HAVE THE DECENCY TO SHOW UP. If you are not comfortable with getting intimate with them when the time comes JUST SAY NO THANKS. IT'S THAT SIMPLE. Not showing up leads to everyone getting pissed off whose time has been wasted. I can only assume that some single men don't turn up because they can't handle an adult conversation without the fuel of alcohol helping them out.

Man the f**k up and just meet the person or couple. They will NOT bite you or attack you or anything, you will find they will generally be polite, well mannered and make you feel comfortable. If you don't know what to say just talk to them like you would a work colleague, it's really not that hard. If you are nervous don't worry they/she will understand if they are/she is mature. They have been in your position at some point.

Naturally if they are arseholes in person just walk away and find someone else. If you are not comfortable with meeting strangers without the power of alcohol then I would suggest you go back to nightclubs.

-----

11) NO MEANS NO

I feel this one is relevant so thought I would include it. This is a golden rule in the lifestyle and as a single guy you are allowed to use it as well. If you are really uncomfortable just say 'no thanks' or 'sorry I’m too uncomfortable to do this'. It does NOT make you less of a man. If they point and laugh at you, or humiliate you, for saying such a thing then you deserve better. Leave immediately and block them without second thought. They are too immature.

Naturally if they say 'no' then you better back the f**k down and accept it. If they demand condoms you put a damn condom on. On the flip side if they demand bareback and you are not comfortable with that then walk away. Take control of yourself and always follow the golden rule.

Some of these comments may seem harsh.But they are reality.

Happy freaky fecking Friday

Red

Single women and couples wait until it raining and you're looking for a taxi and it's hundreds of other people looking for taxis revenge will be mine "

Yeah, but if you actually knew which ones they were, you'd put them to the front of the queue and drive them home for free

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By *j47Man  over a year ago

limerick


"But this is a ratio thing

Ignoring actual numbers - as a percentage of total profile types (M / F and MF) I reckon the % of “bad apples” would be fairly even across the board, it just happens that there are a lot more single M profiles.

As a guy, I’ve had mails from all profile types at some point or another and I can hand on heart say that the worst are from couples.

Does that mean I should write a long winded post about how couples should show some respect to single guys and not talk to them like they are a walking penis who should be ever so grateful that they may deem it appropriate to let the guy play with them ? No of course not because plenty of couples know how to talk with manners and respect as do plenty of single guys.

The original post has some valid points but it’s plain and simple man bashing from some idiot who thought he would try and white knight his way to a ride.

"

The voice of reason and look it's a single male

Stranger things has a point as does Sally no body makes how I use the site better or worse for me but me weather I am a single male a single female or a couple

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Just remove the chat function from men and lets see what happens !!

However I would like to make this point, the men on here pay the highest % of silver and gold and without them you wouldn’t have a site

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just remove the chat function from men and lets see what happens !!

However I would like to make this point, the men on here pay the highest % of silver and gold and without them you wouldn’t have a site "

You could make it a fully paid site.... it might actually cut down on the spammers

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Sweet

Who knows you could be right

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just remove the chat function from men and lets see what happens !!

However I would like to make this point, the men on here pay the highest % of silver and gold and without them you wouldn’t have a site

You could make it a fully paid site.... it might actually cut down on the spammers"

You'd be surprised even on paid sites you get fakes

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just remove the chat function from men and lets see what happens !!

However I would like to make this point, the men on here pay the highest % of silver and gold and without them you wouldn’t have a site

You could make it a fully paid site.... it might actually cut down on the spammers

You'd be surprised even on paid sites you get fakes "

I have never actually paid myself... if would be interesting to see what % of people negative interactions came from paid up supporters of the site.

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By *j47Man  over a year ago

limerick


"Just remove the chat function from men and lets see what happens !!

However I would like to make this point, the men on here pay the highest % of silver and gold and without them you wouldn’t have a site

You could make it a fully paid site.... it might actually cut down on the spammers

You'd be surprised even on paid sites you get fakes

I have never actually paid myself... if would be interesting to see what % of people negative interactions came from paid up supporters of the site."

U don't have to be poor to be a dickhead

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By *orguyMan  over a year ago

Tuam

When you join any dating site, sex site or swingers site you are open to all of the things people whinge about here...

Messages not being read

No replies

Rude pics

Not getting meets

Rude messages

Being stood up

Etc, etc etc

If you are not able for these things then just stay off these kinda sites.

It has always happened and will continue forever.

As for the "expert" single guy's that dish out patronising advice, it just show's you guy's up for the d**kheads that you are.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"When you join any dating site, sex site or swingers site you are open to all of the things people whinge about here...

Messages not being read

No replies

Rude pics

Not getting meets

Rude messages

Being stood up

Etc, etc etc

If you are not able for these things then just stay off these kinda sites.

It has always happened and will continue forever.

As for the "expert" single guy's that dish out patronising advice, it just show's you guy's up for the d**kheads that you are."

Ah really you know the score but so many guys don't and still when you tell them don't listen. It's drives me crazy and yes I've my filters up etc but I wouldn't be calling him a dickheads for giving out advice

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By *ineMan  over a year ago

In cave behind a waterfall on a hill

I managed to read War and Peace faster...

And that's far less patronising.

Kinda reminds me why I stopped using the Ireland forum...

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By *orguyMan  over a year ago

Tuam


"When you join any dating site, sex site or swingers site you are open to all of the things people whinge about here...

Messages not being read

No replies

Rude pics

Not getting meets

Rude messages

Being stood up

Etc, etc etc

If you are not able for these things then just stay off these kinda sites.

It has always happened and will continue forever.

As for the "expert" single guy's that dish out patronising advice, it just show's you guy's up for the d**kheads that you are.

Ah really you know the score but so many guys don't and still when you tell them don't listen. It's drives me crazy and yes I've my filters up etc but I wouldn't be calling him a dickheads for giving out advice "

I know what you mean but it's patronising and annoying. And they only do it to try and make themselves look good, which is probably covering up their own lack of personality at somebody else's expense.

Everybody know's the score but how they CHOOSE to behave is up to them and no amount of advice will change that.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"When you join any dating site, sex site or swingers site you are open to all of the things people whinge about here...

Messages not being read

No replies

Rude pics

Not getting meets

Rude messages

Being stood up

Etc, etc etc

If you are not able for these things then just stay off these kinda sites.

It has always happened and will continue forever.

As for the "expert" single guy's that dish out patronising advice, it just show's you guy's up for the d**kheads that you are.

Ah really you know the score but so many guys don't and still when you tell them don't listen. It's drives me crazy and yes I've my filters up etc but I wouldn't be calling him a dickheads for giving out advice

I know what you mean but it's patronising and annoying. And they only do it to try and make themselves look good, which is probably covering up their own lack of personality at somebody else's expense.

Everybody know's the score but how they CHOOSE to behave is up to them and no amount of advice will change that.

"

You get the score but alot don't and truth be told I know it's been said multiple times but some still don't get it. How people behave is up to them and you and I aren't going to change that anytime soon x

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"When you join any dating site, sex site or swingers site you are open to all of the things people whinge about here...

Messages not being read

No replies

Rude pics

Not getting meets

Rude messages

Being stood up

Etc, etc etc

If you are not able for these things then just stay off these kinda sites.

It has always happened and will continue forever.

As for the "expert" single guy's that dish out patronising advice, it just show's you guy's up for the d**kheads that you are.

Ah really you know the score but so many guys don't and still when you tell them don't listen. It's drives me crazy and yes I've my filters up etc but I wouldn't be calling him a dickheads for giving out advice

I know what you mean but it's patronising and annoying. And they only do it to try and make themselves look good, which is probably covering up their own lack of personality at somebody else's expense.

Everybody know's the score but how they CHOOSE to behave is up to them and no amount of advice will change that.

You get the score but alot don't and truth be told I know it's been said multiple times but some still don't get it. How people behave is up to them and you and I aren't going to change that anytime soon x"

Some ??

Most.

Luckily there are the few who do.

Make it worthwhile to stay on fab.

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By *ohndunboyneMan  over a year ago

Dunboyne & Dublin

Is it just me but hasn't this been talked to death?

I suggest this is the last post on this thread, as it's veered so far from the original and has lost its raison d'etre.

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By *orguyMan  over a year ago

Tuam


"When you join any dating site, sex site or swingers site you are open to all of the things people whinge about here...

Messages not being read

No replies

Rude pics

Not getting meets

Rude messages

Being stood up

Etc, etc etc

If you are not able for these things then just stay off these kinda sites.

It has always happened and will continue forever.

As for the "expert" single guy's that dish out patronising advice, it just show's you guy's up for the d**kheads that you are.

Ah really you know the score but so many guys don't and still when you tell them don't listen. It's drives me crazy and yes I've my filters up etc but I wouldn't be calling him a dickheads for giving out advice

I know what you mean but it's patronising and annoying. And they only do it to try and make themselves look good, which is probably covering up their own lack of personality at somebody else's expense.

Everybody know's the score but how they CHOOSE to behave is up to them and no amount of advice will change that.

You get the score but alot don't and truth be told I know it's been said multiple times but some still don't get it. How people behave is up to them and you and I aren't going to change that anytime soon x"

Exactly, we're both saying the same thing.

The annoying part is the single guy's giving "advice" in an attempt to get one up in the next guy and get a meet out of it...this makes them as bad as the guy they're trying to "advise".

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