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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Maybe some ladies can help me get my head around what happened.
My F buddy and I have great sex. She would call me at 2 or 3 in the morning and say get your ass over here now  I would head over and we would have fun. I would be in work and she would text me let's meet for lunch, you can eat me??. We would meet.
I would text her and get, not now busy or just a flat out no.
She was using me and that is grand because I was using her as well.
She had asked me to go to a wedding with her as a plus one.
We went had a great time. First time I met her friends and family everybody loved me.
When the wedding was over she flipped saying I was too nice and all her friends and family loved me(like that was a bad thing).
I said let's take a break because her mood swings were doing my head in.
Now she wants a proper relationship but I just don't think she is stable enough for one so I said no. In 2 days she had slept with 2 of my friends.
She rang me to tell me and I said that was grand she is a free agent and I don't have any problems with her riding anybody.
Ended up her shouting down the phone that I was I prick.
Any anyone explain to me what I did wrong? Trying to get my head around why I am a prick. ?? |
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"I think she loves ye. And she expected you react in a negative way shagging your friends in order to show feelings for her. "
I think he was with her mother  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"She sounds like a bunny boiler. Definitely BPD of some type.
Don't turn round and walk the other way.
RUN!!!!!! RUN AS FAST AND AS FAR AWAY AS YOU CAN."
Agreed, the type who loves creating drama and playing the victim |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"She sounds like a bunny boiler. Definitely BPD of some type.
Don't turn round and walk the other way.
RUN!!!!!! RUN AS FAST AND AS FAR AWAY AS YOU CAN."
I like that you put that in caps. Run run as fast as you can you can't catch me I am the G......  |
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"She sounds like a bunny boiler. Definitely BPD of some type.
Don't turn round and walk the other way.
RUN!!!!!! RUN AS FAST AND AS FAR AWAY AS YOU CAN.
Agreed, the type who loves creating drama and playing the victim"
Type you never leave the used condom in their bin  |
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But to answer your question, yes all women are crazy just on different levels out of 10 with no woman being below a 4 on the crazy scale.
This YouTube link shall explain it all to you more.
https://youtu.be/QGvxDxDLDvg |
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"She sounds like a bunny boiler. Definitely BPD of some type.
Don't turn round and walk the other way.
RUN!!!!!! RUN AS FAST AND AS FAR AWAY AS YOU CAN.
Agreed, the type who loves creating drama and playing the victim
Type you never leave the used condom in their bin "
Lol I would be more worried she would clone me than anything else.  |
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"But to answer your question, yes all women are crazy just on different levels out of 10 with no woman being below a 4 on the crazy scale.
This YouTube link shall explain it all to you more.
https://youtu.be/QGvxDxDLDvg"
Only certain times of the month  |
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"But to answer your question, yes all women are crazy just on different levels out of 10 with no woman being below a 4 on the crazy scale.
This YouTube link shall explain it all to you more.
https://youtu.be/QGvxDxDLDvg
Only certain times of the month "
Ah now if there is one thing that I have learned over the years is that a woman on her time of the month is like a terrorist. The only difference is that you can negotiate with a terrorist.  |
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"But to answer your question, yes all women are crazy just on different levels out of 10 with no woman being below a 4 on the crazy scale.
This YouTube link shall explain it all to you more.
https://youtu.be/QGvxDxDLDvg
Only certain times of the month
Ah now if there is one thing that I have learned over the years is that a woman on her time of the month is like a terrorist. The only difference is that you can negotiate with a terrorist. "
Chocolate and wine and you can negotiate |
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"Maybe some ladies can help me get my head around what happened.
My F buddy and I have great sex. She would call me at 2 or 3 in the morning and say get your ass over here now I would head over and we would have fun. I would be in work and she would text me let's meet for lunch, you can eat me??. We would meet.
I would text her and get, not now busy or just a flat out no.
She was using me and that is grand because I was using her as well.
She had asked me to go to a wedding with her as a plus one.
We went had a great time. First time I met her friends and family everybody loved me.
When the wedding was over she flipped saying I was too nice and all her friends and family loved me(like that was a bad thing).
I said let's take a break because her mood swings were doing my head in.
Now she wants a proper relationship but I just don't think she is stable enough for one so I said no. In 2 days she had slept with 2 of my friends.
She rang me to tell me and I said that was grand she is a free agent and I don't have any problems with her riding anybody.
Ended up her shouting down the phone that I was I prick.
Any anyone explain to me what I did wrong? Trying to get my head around why I am a prick. ?? "
Try get off with one of her friends she will never hassle you then again |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"But to answer your question, yes all women are crazy just on different levels out of 10 with no woman being below a 4 on the crazy scale.
This YouTube link shall explain it all to you more.
https://youtu.be/QGvxDxDLDvg"
I had to Google that. I think I was in the danger zone lol very good |
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"But to answer your question, yes all women are crazy just on different levels out of 10 with no woman being below a 4 on the crazy scale.
This YouTube link shall explain it all to you more.
https://youtu.be/QGvxDxDLDvg
Only certain times of the month
Ah now if there is one thing that I have learned over the years is that a woman on her time of the month is like a terrorist. The only difference is that you can negotiate with a terrorist.
Chocolate and wine and you can negotiate "
Well see I already know that I should approach her with extreme caution, put my arms around her and whisper sweet words in her ear. If she starts to snarl retreat to a safe distance and throw chocolates.
If the chocolates don't work then get the hell out of there and don't come back unless armed with Ben and Jerry's and a big net. |
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"Maybe some ladies can help me get my head around what happened.
My F buddy and I have great sex. She would call me at 2 or 3 in the morning and say get your ass over here now I would head over and we would have fun. I would be in work and she would text me let's meet for lunch, you can eat me??. We would meet.
I would text her and get, not now busy or just a flat out no.
She was using me and that is grand because I was using her as well.
She had asked me to go to a wedding with her as a plus one.
We went had a great time. First time I met her friends and family everybody loved me.
When the wedding was over she flipped saying I was too nice and all her friends and family loved me(like that was a bad thing).
I said let's take a break because her mood swings were doing my head in.
Now she wants a proper relationship but I just don't think she is stable enough for one so I said no. In 2 days she had slept with 2 of my friends.
She rang me to tell me and I said that was grand she is a free agent and I don't have any problems with her riding anybody.
Ended up her shouting down the phone that I was I prick.
Any anyone explain to me what I did wrong? Trying to get my head around why I am a prick. ??
Try get off with one of her friends she will never hassle you then again "
Crazy women might get the shears out thou |
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"Maybe some ladies can help me get my head around what happened.
My F buddy and I have great sex. She would call me at 2 or 3 in the morning and say get your ass over here now I would head over and we would have fun. I would be in work and she would text me let's meet for lunch, you can eat me??. We would meet.
I would text her and get, not now busy or just a flat out no.
She was using me and that is grand because I was using her as well.
She had asked me to go to a wedding with her as a plus one.
We went had a great time. First time I met her friends and family everybody loved me.
When the wedding was over she flipped saying I was too nice and all her friends and family loved me(like that was a bad thing).
I said let's take a break because her mood swings were doing my head in.
Now she wants a proper relationship but I just don't think she is stable enough for one so I said no. In 2 days she had slept with 2 of my friends.
She rang me to tell me and I said that was grand she is a free agent and I don't have any problems with her riding anybody.
Ended up her shouting down the phone that I was I prick.
Any anyone explain to me what I did wrong? Trying to get my head around why I am a prick. ??
Try get off with one of her friends she will never hassle you then again
Crazy women might get the shears out thou "
 True Ye woman are unpredictable |
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"Maybe some ladies can help me get my head around what happened.
My F buddy and I have great sex. She would call me at 2 or 3 in the morning and say get your ass over here now I would head over and we would have fun. I would be in work and she would text me let's meet for lunch, you can eat me??. We would meet.
I would text her and get, not now busy or just a flat out no.
She was using me and that is grand because I was using her as well.
She had asked me to go to a wedding with her as a plus one.
We went had a great time. First time I met her friends and family everybody loved me.
When the wedding was over she flipped saying I was too nice and all her friends and family loved me(like that was a bad thing).
I said let's take a break because her mood swings were doing my head in.
Now she wants a proper relationship but I just don't think she is stable enough for one so I said no. In 2 days she had slept with 2 of my friends.
She rang me to tell me and I said that was grand she is a free agent and I don't have any problems with her riding anybody.
Ended up her shouting down the phone that I was I prick.
Any anyone explain to me what I did wrong? Trying to get my head around why I am a prick. ??
Try get off with one of her friends she will never hassle you then again
Crazy women might get the shears out thou
True Ye woman are unpredictable "
What makes us fun thou |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Ok, just to bring in some balance. That's your perspective and your story. Her's might sound completely different and as usual the truth lies somewhere in between. "
Ah but where's the fun in that? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Ok, just to bring in some balance. That's your perspective and your story. Her's might sound completely different and as usual the truth lies somewhere in between. "
I would agree with you. There are always 2 sides and 3 truths.
My side her side. My truth her truth and then what really happened.
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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago
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"Ok, just to bring in some balance. That's your perspective and your story. Her's might sound completely different and as usual the truth lies somewhere in between.
Ah but where's the fun in that?"
Fair point. Sorry for being a spoil sport.  |
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"Maybe some ladies can help me get my head around what happened.
My F buddy and I have great sex. She would call me at 2 or 3 in the morning and say get your ass over here now I would head over and we would have fun. I would be in work and she would text me let's meet for lunch, you can eat me??. We would meet.
I would text her and get, not now busy or just a flat out no.
She was using me and that is grand because I was using her as well.
She had asked me to go to a wedding with her as a plus one.
We went had a great time. First time I met her friends and family everybody loved me.
When the wedding was over she flipped saying I was too nice and all her friends and family loved me(like that was a bad thing).
I said let's take a break because her mood swings were doing my head in.
Now she wants a proper relationship but I just don't think she is stable enough for one so I said no. In 2 days she had slept with 2 of my friends.
She rang me to tell me and I said that was grand she is a free agent and I don't have any problems with her riding anybody.
Ended up her shouting down the phone that I was I prick.
Any anyone explain to me what I did wrong? Trying to get my head around why I am a prick. ??
Try get off with one of her friends she will never hassle you then again
Crazy women might get the shears out thou
True Ye woman are unpredictable
What makes us fun thou "
True that woman and unpredictability make fab all the better |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ok, just to bring in some balance. That's your perspective and your story. Her's might sound completely different and as usual the truth lies somewhere in between. "
Was just thinking the same. Your fuck buddies but you went as her plus 1 to a wedding where her family and friends were attending. That shoukd have been a no straight off. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Ok, just to bring in some balance. That's your perspective and your story. Her's might sound completely different and as usual the truth lies somewhere in between.
Was just thinking the same. Your fuck buddies but you went as her plus 1 to a wedding where her family and friends were attending. That shoukd have been a no straight off."
We have been fuck buddy's for nearly 2 years. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Keep her clear of rabbits and pots of boiling water.. a very unstable lady.
I have to say I'm lucky enough to have grown up well out numbered by women in my family setting.
Definitely has always made me respect and fear at the same time |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ok, just to bring in some balance. That's your perspective and your story. Her's might sound completely different and as usual the truth lies somewhere in between. "
Is it worth it trying to find out the reasons why? From reading the original post from the OP it appears that she only wanted him when it suits which is fine. Invited him to a wedding but freaked when he got on so well with her friends and family. Then wanted a relationship.
No mention of how or why she had met the OP's friends so obviously there is more to the story.
Sleeping with two of them leads me to believe that the girl is not the full deck. Whatever possibility she had of having a relationship with the OP ended right there.
I totally agree there is more to the story but is it worth the hassle for the OP.
In my opinion reading between the lines it is best to steer clear of the potential drama. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ok, just to bring in some balance. That's your perspective and your story. Her's might sound completely different and as usual the truth lies somewhere in between.
Was just thinking the same. Your fuck buddies but you went as her plus 1 to a wedding where her family and friends were attending. That shoukd have been a no straight off.
We have been fuck buddy's for nearly 2 years."
Yes fuck buddys not boyfriend abd girlfriend i have a fuck buddy nearly a year and wouldnt dream if asking him to anything where my family or friends were and if he asked id say no. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Ok, just to bring in some balance. That's your perspective and your story. Her's might sound completely different and as usual the truth lies somewhere in between.
Is it worth it trying to find out the reasons why? From reading the original post from the OP it appears that she only wanted him when it suits which is fine. Invited him to a wedding but freaked when he got on so well with her friends and family. Then wanted a relationship.
No mention of how or why she had met the OP's friends so obviously there is more to the story.
Sleeping with two of them leads me to believe that the girl is not the full deck. Whatever possibility she had of having a relationship with the OP ended right there.
I totally agree there is more to the story but is it worth the hassle for the OP.
In my opinion reading between the lines it is best to steer clear of the potential drama."
She had met my friends because I am quite open in my life and if I like you no matter who you are I will have a drink with you.
I am never embarrassed to be seen with anyone or to introduce them to my friends. Simple as that. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ok, just to bring in some balance. That's your perspective and your story. Her's might sound completely different and as usual the truth lies somewhere in between.
Was just thinking the same. Your fuck buddies but you went as her plus 1 to a wedding where her family and friends were attending. That shoukd have been a no straight off.
We have been fuck buddy's for nearly 2 years.
Yes fuck buddys not boyfriend abd girlfriend i have a fuck buddy nearly a year and wouldnt dream if asking him to anything where my family or friends were and if he asked id say no. "
This 100%
Why bring the drama
"Who is he"
"How do you know him"
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"Ok, just to bring in some balance. That's your perspective and your story. Her's might sound completely different and as usual the truth lies somewhere in between.
Was just thinking the same. Your fuck buddies but you went as her plus 1 to a wedding where her family and friends were attending. That shoukd have been a no straight off.
We have been fuck buddy's for nearly 2 years."
Doesn't matter, in my opinion. You don't cross your Fab life with your real one. Not before having a serious conversation about the changes it will bring to your relationship, because that's what you are getting into if you start meeting family and friends.
Sorry mate but you shouldn't have gone to the wedding in the first place unless you were ready to go to the next stage of a more than physical relationship. |
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"Ok, just to bring in some balance. That's your perspective and your story. Her's might sound completely different and as usual the truth lies somewhere in between.
Is it worth it trying to find out the reasons why? From reading the original post from the OP it appears that she only wanted him when it suits which is fine. Invited him to a wedding but freaked when he got on so well with her friends and family. Then wanted a relationship.
No mention of how or why she had met the OP's friends so obviously there is more to the story.
Sleeping with two of them leads me to believe that the girl is not the full deck. Whatever possibility she had of having a relationship with the OP ended right there.
I totally agree there is more to the story but is it worth the hassle for the OP.
In my opinion reading between the lines it is best to steer clear of the potential drama.
She had met my friends because I am quite open in my life and if I like you no matter who you are I will have a drink with you.
I am never embarrassed to be seen with anyone or to introduce them to my friends. Simple as that. "
That's fair enough but where did you tell your friends that you had met her?
If they are friends who know you well they will question it. You hardly told them that you met them on a swingers site.
In addition what gave them the perception that it was OK to sleep with her.
Most people have a small circle of true friends. Two of yours slept with this girl.
Maybe question your friendship with them? I'm not judging by any means.
Just that two of them slept with her. It sounds so easy. Too easy in fact.
Yet you are the prick.
I don't get it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I am very uncomfortable especially with other women judging a woman without had listen to her. No empathy, no sorority."
But you don't seem to have any difficulty judging most men |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ok, just to bring in some balance. That's your perspective and your story. Her's might sound completely different and as usual the truth lies somewhere in between.
Was just thinking the same. Your fuck buddies but you went as her plus 1 to a wedding where her family and friends were attending. That shoukd have been a no straight off.
We have been fuck buddy's for nearly 2 years.
Doesn't matter, in my opinion. You don't cross your Fab life with your real one. Not before having a serious conversation about the changes it will bring to your relationship, because that's what you are getting into if you start meeting family and friends.
Sorry mate but you shouldn't have gone to the wedding in the first place unless you were ready to go to the next stage of a more than physical relationship."
Maybe, but going on the original post she freaked but then wanted a relationship.
Then slept with two of his friends.
I can totally understand why he is asking the question.
Seeing as it was the girl who asked him to the wedding they we're both willing to go one step further. |
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No not all ladies are crazy and sometimes men can make ladies act crazy
I would never have an opinion based on only one sides version of events as quite often they are very different with sometimes key bits left out.
It simple. If you like this lady and care for her at all, communicate with her, sit her down, ask her to be straight up, and listen to her. Her craziness could be out of frustration. And see what happens
If you have already decided you want a break then be straight,make a break and stick to it, and let her move on |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"No not all ladies are crazy and sometimes men can make ladies act crazy
I would never have an opinion based on only one sides version of events as quite often they are very different with sometimes key bits left out.
It simple. If you like this lady and care for her at all, communicate with her, sit her down, ask her to be straight up, and listen to her. Her craziness could be out of frustration. And see what happens
If you have already decided you want a break then be straight,make a break and stick to it, and let her move on"
I'm 42 years old and still can't figure women out. I probably never will.
From a man's perspective what you have suggested is impossible after she slept with two of my friends in spite of me.
All she would ever be is a handy ride.
I mean no disrespect in saying that. Just being honest. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"And honestly, in general men deserve what they get. Karma is a bitch."
Imagine this reversed...
On the scale if 1-10 how high would you be aiming your rolling pin,?? |
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By *orguyMan
over a year ago
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Some are totally unhinged. I was recently told about a wan that claimed I asked her out and she rejected me and thinks I have some kind of obsession.
It's hilarious because I've never even spoken to her, she's very unattractive and I don't go for needy, attention seekers.
Most ladies are good. But, some really let the side down. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Some are totally unhinged. I was recently told about a wan that claimed I asked her out and she rejected me and thinks I have some kind of obsession.
It's hilarious because I've never even spoken to her, she's very unattractive and I don't go for needy, attention seekers.
Most ladies are good. But, some really let the side down."
So, pretty much like men then?
I don't personally see it as a "side" that I am on - I am not responsible for the behaviour of other women simply because we share a gender, nor do I feel I should automatically leap to the defence of a woman for that reason alone. |
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By *orguyMan
over a year ago
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"Some are totally unhinged. I was recently told about a wan that claimed I asked her out and she rejected me and thinks I have some kind of obsession.
It's hilarious because I've never even spoken to her, she's very unattractive and I don't go for needy, attention seekers.
Most ladies are good. But, some really let the side down.
So, pretty much like men then?
I don't personally see it as a "side" that I am on - I am not responsible for the behaviour of other women simply because we share a gender, nor do I feel I should automatically leap to the defence of a woman for that reason alone."
I'm not asking you to defend anybody. As I said "Most are good".
It would be the same in both genders....good and bad. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"No not all ladies are crazy and sometimes men can make ladies act crazy
I would never have an opinion based on only one sides version of events as quite often they are very different with sometimes key bits left out.
It simple. If you like this lady and care for her at all, communicate with her, sit her down, ask her to be straight up, and listen to her. Her craziness could be out of frustration. And see what happens
If you have already decided you want a break then be straight,make a break and stick to it, and let her move on
I'm 42 years old and still can't figure women out. I probably never will.
From a man's perspective what you have suggested is impossible after she slept with two of my friends in spite of me.
All she would ever be is a handy ride.
I mean no disrespect in saying that. Just being honest."
No disrespect taken.
He didn't seem to bothered about her sleeping with his mates. Reading between the lines she has strong feelings for him and did that to cause a reaction, hoping he'd be jealous. What led her to do that? Who knows. But he wasn't jealous. She went crazy. When one part of a fb couple starts to show signs of wanting more, and the other one doesn't then time to end it, simple.
Though don't think it big of anyone dishing a person that obviously has feelings for them on a public forum.
If seeking advice yes, but if it just to say look at how crazy she is...who is the victim here? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"No not all ladies are crazy and sometimes men can make ladies act crazy
I would never have an opinion based on only one sides version of events as quite often they are very different with sometimes key bits left out.
It simple. If you like this lady and care for her at all, communicate with her, sit her down, ask her to be straight up, and listen to her. Her craziness could be out of frustration. And see what happens
If you have already decided you want a break then be straight,make a break and stick to it, and let her move on
I'm 42 years old and still can't figure women out. I probably never will.
From a man's perspective what you have suggested is impossible after she slept with two of my friends in spite of me.
All she would ever be is a handy ride.
I mean no disrespect in saying that. Just being honest.
No disrespect taken.
He didn't seem to bothered about her sleeping with his mates. Reading between the lines she has strong feelings for him and did that to cause a reaction, hoping he'd be jealous. What led her to do that? Who knows. But he wasn't jealous. She went crazy. When one part of a fb couple starts to show signs of wanting more, and the other one doesn't then time to end it, simple.
Though don't think it big of anyone dishing a person that obviously has feelings for them on a public forum.
If seeking advice yes, but if it just to say look at how crazy she is...who is the victim here? "
I agree when you look at it like that but her asking him to the wedding and him agree to go overstepped boundaries. It should have been called out then that there was a problem but it appears they were both happy to go ahead.
Obviously more to the story and the reason for post can be questioned.
As a man if a girl slept with two of my friends who she barely knew just to piss me off is not worth thinking about.
I can only speak for myself and the friends I have. Chances that TWO of them would sleep with her are highly unlikely.
I'd be questioning our friendship. |
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"No not all ladies are crazy and sometimes men can make ladies act crazy
I would never have an opinion based on only one sides version of events as quite often they are very different with sometimes key bits left out.
It simple. If you like this lady and care for her at all, communicate with her, sit her down, ask her to be straight up, and listen to her. Her craziness could be out of frustration. And see what happens
If you have already decided you want a break then be straight,make a break and stick to it, and let her move on
I'm 42 years old and still can't figure women out. I probably never will.
From a man's perspective what you have suggested is impossible after she slept with two of my friends in spite of me.
All she would ever be is a handy ride.
I mean no disrespect in saying that. Just being honest.
No disrespect taken.
He didn't seem to bothered about her sleeping with his mates. Reading between the lines she has strong feelings for him and did that to cause a reaction, hoping he'd be jealous. What led her to do that? Who knows. But he wasn't jealous. She went crazy. When one part of a fb couple starts to show signs of wanting more, and the other one doesn't then time to end it, simple.
Though don't think it big of anyone dishing a person that obviously has feelings for them on a public forum.
If seeking advice yes, but if it just to say look at how crazy she is...who is the victim here?
I agree when you look at it like that but her asking him to the wedding and him agree to go overstepped boundaries. It should have been called out then that there was a problem but it appears they were both happy to go ahead.
Obviously more to the story and the reason for post can be questioned.
As a man if a girl slept with two of my friends who she barely knew just to piss me off is not worth thinking about.
I can only speak for myself and the friends I have. Chances that TWO of them would sleep with her are highly unlikely.
I'd be questioning our friendship. "
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"No not all ladies are crazy and sometimes men can make ladies act crazy
I would never have an opinion based on only one sides version of events as quite often they are very different with sometimes key bits left out.
It simple. If you like this lady and care for her at all, communicate with her, sit her down, ask her to be straight up, and listen to her. Her craziness could be out of frustration. And see what happens
If you have already decided you want a break then be straight,make a break and stick to it, and let her move on
I'm 42 years old and still can't figure women out. I probably never will.
From a man's perspective what you have suggested is impossible after she slept with two of my friends in spite of me.
All she would ever be is a handy ride.
I mean no disrespect in saying that. Just being honest.
No disrespect taken.
He didn't seem to bothered about her sleeping with his mates. Reading between the lines she has strong feelings for him and did that to cause a reaction, hoping he'd be jealous. What led her to do that? Who knows. But he wasn't jealous. She went crazy. When one part of a fb couple starts to show signs of wanting more, and the other one doesn't then time to end it, simple.
Though don't think it big of anyone dishing a person that obviously has feelings for them on a public forum.
If seeking advice yes, but if it just to say look at how crazy she is...who is the victim here?
I agree when you look at it like that but her asking him to the wedding and him agree to go overstepped boundaries. It should have been called out then that there was a problem but it appears they were both happy to go ahead.
Obviously more to the story and the reason for post can be questioned.
As a man if a girl slept with two of my friends who she barely knew just to piss me off is not worth thinking about.
I can only speak for myself and the friends I have. Chances that TWO of them would sleep with her are highly unlikely.
I'd be questioning our friendship.
I agree. Just makes the story sound less plausible "
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So within 1 post amateur psychologist's have diagnosed her as "crazy". Always amazes me how quick people jump on the bandwagon when the other side of the story has not been told. I hope none of those quick to judge ever end up on a jury.
"If" the story is as reported there is more than likely a background story to why she may behave as such. Who's to know what situation's have conditioned the neurological patterns she has.
Not being rational in a particular situation does not automatically mean someone is crazy.
I would suggest the vast majority of people on this thread have been irrational at some point in their lives.
For a site where people say they are not judgemental the guillotine does indeed drop fast with little compassion or empathy.
Maybe the chasm between a projected sense of self and the actual reality is "crazy" or irrational .
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"So within 1 post amateur psychologist's have diagnosed her as "crazy". Always amazes me how quick people jump on the bandwagon when the other side of the story has not been told. I hope none of those quick to judge ever end up on a jury.
"If" the story is as reported there is more than likely a background story to why she may behave as such. Who's to know what situation's have conditioned the neurological patterns she has.
Not being rational in a particular situation does not automatically mean someone is crazy.
I would suggest the vast majority of people on this thread have been irrational at some point in their lives.
For a site where people say they are not judgemental the guillotine does indeed drop fast with little compassion or empathy.
Maybe the chasm between a projected sense of self and the actual reality is "crazy" or irrational .
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"Ok, just to bring in some balance. That's your perspective and your story. Her's might sound completely different and as usual the truth lies somewhere in between. "
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"So within 1 post amateur psychologist's have diagnosed her as "crazy". Always amazes me how quick people jump on the bandwagon when the other side of the story has not been told. I hope none of those quick to judge ever end up on a jury.
"If" the story is as reported there is more than likely a background story to why she may behave as such. Who's to know what situation's have conditioned the neurological patterns she has.
Not being rational in a particular situation does not automatically mean someone is crazy.
I would suggest the vast majority of people on this thread have been irrational at some point in their lives.
For a site where people say they are not judgemental the guillotine does indeed drop fast with little compassion or empathy.
Maybe the chasm between a projected sense of self and the actual reality is "crazy" or irrational .
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From a "crazy" woman
I would like to hear her side of the story |
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Are all women crazy?god no
I had a similiar situation over 10 years ago.it was this on off thing,mainly just sex but with a lot of temper tantrums and mood swings.none on my side might i add lol
It got a little crazy over the years as it went on and on and i mean crazy to the point i had to call the guards.....
Wasnt till 2 years ago that she got diagnosed with bipolar.
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"But to answer your question, yes all women are crazy just on different levels out of 10 with no woman being below a 4 on the crazy scale.
This YouTube link shall explain it all to you more.
https://youtu.be/QGvxDxDLDvg"
Correction...Girls are all crazy! Women are not! This is not an age related term btw... but as above OP...leave her to her own silliness before it gets messy! |
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"So within 1 post amateur psychologist's have diagnosed her as "crazy". Always amazes me how quick people jump on the bandwagon when the other side of the story has not been told. I hope none of those quick to judge ever end up on a jury.
"If" the story is as reported there is more than likely a background story to why she may behave as such. Who's to know what situation's have conditioned the neurological patterns she has.
Not being rational in a particular situation does not automatically mean someone is crazy.
I would suggest the vast majority of people on this thread have been irrational at some point in their lives.
For a site where people say they are not judgemental the guillotine does indeed drop fast with little compassion or empathy.
Maybe the chasm between a projected sense of self and the actual reality is "crazy" or irrational .
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To be fair i think we are all fucked up some
More fucked up than others !! Is it nornal to be on line on a sat morning looking at ladys pussys on fab before u text them and look to meet up when u swing for a long time u forget its not the norm and its hard to have a normal relationship ( my experience only )but will i change ? Not at this stage !! Op the theory behind fab and swingung is no drama sex but its hard to find good luck in the decision u make |
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Regardless of the rights or wrongs or whose side of the story is the truth, all I will finish with is that you tend get the treatment in a relationship that you are willing to put up with. To carry on where a person has used a combination of manipulation and abuse to attempt to get their own way - well, how do you think it will pan out? |
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I think sometimes we are far too harsh on other people and we fail to stop and realise that a person's personality isn't shaped by choice.
We are all sadly conditioned differently. Some people are fortunate enough for example to of had loving parents and maybe they are physically attractive so they always had luck with the ladies etc
The other person might have had equally loving parents but their parent skills perhaps were lacking so they are being raised differently and forming differently. Likewise perhaps they weren't as attractive physically as person X so they may have struggled with the opposite sex and that has brought about issues etc
Neither person is a bad person at the heart of who they are. Both are very different people not by choice but from their upbringing, experiences etc
Who they became was ultimately beyond their control and now they have made it to adulthood they get judged and labelled etc
In reality everyone of us here has had a different life and it has molded who we are. Alot of people won't like each other here and will talk crap about each other etc but in reality the vast majority of people are good people at heart. We've all just grown up differently etc
The girl in question is no different. |
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"I think sometimes we are far too harsh on other people and we fail to stop and realise that a person's personality isn't shaped by choice.
We are all sadly conditioned differently. Some people are fortunate enough for example to of had loving parents and maybe they are physically attractive so they always had luck with the ladies etc
The other person might have had equally loving parents but their parent skills perhaps were lacking so they are being raised differently and forming differently. Likewise perhaps they weren't as attractive physically as person X so they may have struggled with the opposite sex and that has brought about issues etc
Neither person is a bad person at the heart of who they are. Both are very different people not by choice but from their upbringing, experiences etc
Who they became was ultimately beyond their control and now they have made it to adulthood they get judged and labelled etc
In reality everyone of us here has had a different life and it has molded who we are. Alot of people won't like each other here and will talk crap about each other etc but in reality the vast majority of people are good people at heart. We've all just grown up differently etc
The girl in question is no different. "
We may be shaped by our experiences but our actions are a choice. |
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"I think sometimes we are far too harsh on other people and we fail to stop and realise that a person's personality isn't shaped by choice.
We are all sadly conditioned differently. Some people are fortunate enough for example to of had loving parents and maybe they are physically attractive so they always had luck with the ladies etc
The other person might have had equally loving parents but their parent skills perhaps were lacking so they are being raised differently and forming differently. Likewise perhaps they weren't as attractive physically as person X so they may have struggled with the opposite sex and that has brought about issues etc
Neither person is a bad person at the heart of who they are. Both are very different people not by choice but from their upbringing, experiences etc
Who they became was ultimately beyond their control and now they have made it to adulthood they get judged and labelled etc
In reality everyone of us here has had a different life and it has molded who we are. Alot of people won't like each other here and will talk crap about each other etc but in reality the vast majority of people are good people at heart. We've all just grown up differently etc
The girl in question is no different.
We may be shaped by our experiences but our actions are a choice."
That's where your wrong. If you think all actions are a choice then you don't understand how the mind / neurology works. |
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"I think sometimes we are far too harsh on other people and we fail to stop and realise that a person's personality isn't shaped by choice.
We are all sadly conditioned differently. Some people are fortunate enough for example to of had loving parents and maybe they are physically attractive so they always had luck with the ladies etc
The other person might have had equally loving parents but their parent skills perhaps were lacking so they are being raised differently and forming differently. Likewise perhaps they weren't as attractive physically as person X so they may have struggled with the opposite sex and that has brought about issues etc
Neither person is a bad person at the heart of who they are. Both are very different people not by choice but from their upbringing, experiences etc
Who they became was ultimately beyond their control and now they have made it to adulthood they get judged and labelled etc
In reality everyone of us here has had a different life and it has molded who we are. Alot of people won't like each other here and will talk crap about each other etc but in reality the vast majority of people are good people at heart. We've all just grown up differently etc
The girl in question is no different.
We may be shaped by our experiences but our actions are a choice.
That's where your wrong. If you think all actions are a choice then you don't understand how the mind / neurology works. "
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"I am very uncomfortable especially with other women judging a woman without had listen to her. No empathy, no sorority.
But you don't seem to have any difficulty judging most men "
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"I think sometimes we are far too harsh on other people and we fail to stop and realise that a person's personality isn't shaped by choice.
We are all sadly conditioned differently. Some people are fortunate enough for example to of had loving parents and maybe they are physically attractive so they always had luck with the ladies etc
The other person might have had equally loving parents but their parent skills perhaps were lacking so they are being raised differently and forming differently. Likewise perhaps they weren't as attractive physically as person X so they may have struggled with the opposite sex and that has brought about issues etc
Neither person is a bad person at the heart of who they are. Both are very different people not by choice but from their upbringing, experiences etc
Who they became was ultimately beyond their control and now they have made it to adulthood they get judged and labelled etc
In reality everyone of us here has had a different life and it has molded who we are. Alot of people won't like each other here and will talk crap about each other etc but in reality the vast majority of people are good people at heart. We've all just grown up differently etc
The girl in question is no different.
We may be shaped by our experiences but our actions are a choice.
That's where your wrong. If you think all actions are a choice then you don't understand how the mind / neurology works.
We cannot absolve ourselves of personal responsibility, tempting though it might be"
Technically we can. Society tells us we can't however. Your actions are in most cases a subconscious response. Meaning your brain is literally programmed to react that way. You have already carried out the action before you had time to process it. |
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"I think sometimes we are far too harsh on other people and we fail to stop and realise that a person's personality isn't shaped by choice.
We are all sadly conditioned differently. Some people are fortunate enough for example to of had loving parents and maybe they are physically attractive so they always had luck with the ladies etc
The other person might have had equally loving parents but their parent skills perhaps were lacking so they are being raised differently and forming differently. Likewise perhaps they weren't as attractive physically as person X so they may have struggled with the opposite sex and that has brought about issues etc
Neither person is a bad person at the heart of who they are. Both are very different people not by choice but from their upbringing, experiences etc
Who they became was ultimately beyond their control and now they have made it to adulthood they get judged and labelled etc
In reality everyone of us here has had a different life and it has molded who we are. Alot of people won't like each other here and will talk crap about each other etc but in reality the vast majority of people are good people at heart. We've all just grown up differently etc
The girl in question is no different.
We may be shaped by our experiences but our actions are a choice.
That's where your wrong. If you think all actions are a choice then you don't understand how the mind / neurology works.
We cannot absolve ourselves of personal responsibility, tempting though it might be
Technically we can. Society tells us we can't however. Your actions are in most cases a subconscious response. Meaning your brain is literally programmed to react that way. You have already carried out the action before you had time to process it. "
If this were true, no behavioural changes would be possible,yet they are, for anyone who wishes to do so. Your instinctive response and your actions are two entirely different things. |
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"I think sometimes we are far too harsh on other people and we fail to stop and realise that a person's personality isn't shaped by choice.
We are all sadly conditioned differently. Some people are fortunate enough for example to of had loving parents and maybe they are physically attractive so they always had luck with the ladies etc
The other person might have had equally loving parents but their parent skills perhaps were lacking so they are being raised differently and forming differently. Likewise perhaps they weren't as attractive physically as person X so they may have struggled with the opposite sex and that has brought about issues etc
Neither person is a bad person at the heart of who they are. Both are very different people not by choice but from their upbringing, experiences etc
Who they became was ultimately beyond their control and now they have made it to adulthood they get judged and labelled etc
In reality everyone of us here has had a different life and it has molded who we are. Alot of people won't like each other here and will talk crap about each other etc but in reality the vast majority of people are good people at heart. We've all just grown up differently etc
The girl in question is no different.
We may be shaped by our experiences but our actions are a choice.
That's where your wrong. If you think all actions are a choice then you don't understand how the mind / neurology works.
We cannot absolve ourselves of personal responsibility, tempting though it might be
Technically we can. Society tells us we can't however. Your actions are in most cases a subconscious response. Meaning your brain is literally programmed to react that way. You have already carried out the action before you had time to process it.
If this were true, no behavioural changes would be possible,yet they are, for anyone who wishes to do so. Your instinctive response and your actions are two entirely different things."
So your suggesting it's not true? How do you think behavioural changes happen? You essentially have to reprogram your brain to respond differently. People don't think negatively by choice or make bad decisions because they want to. If who you are and what you do was simply a choice then we'd all live very happy lives. |
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"I think sometimes we are far too harsh on other people and we fail to stop and realise that a person's personality isn't shaped by choice.
We are all sadly conditioned differently. Some people are fortunate enough for example to of had loving parents and maybe they are physically attractive so they always had luck with the ladies etc
The other person might have had equally loving parents but their parent skills perhaps were lacking so they are being raised differently and forming differently. Likewise perhaps they weren't as attractive physically as person X so they may have struggled with the opposite sex and that has brought about issues etc
Neither person is a bad person at the heart of who they are. Both are very different people not by choice but from their upbringing, experiences etc
Who they became was ultimately beyond their control and now they have made it to adulthood they get judged and labelled etc
In reality everyone of us here has had a different life and it has molded who we are. Alot of people won't like each other here and will talk crap about each other etc but in reality the vast majority of people are good people at heart. We've all just grown up differently etc
The girl in question is no different.
We may be shaped by our experiences but our actions are a choice.
That's where your wrong. If you think all actions are a choice then you don't understand how the mind / neurology works.
We cannot absolve ourselves of personal responsibility, tempting though it might be
Technically we can. Society tells us we can't however. Your actions are in most cases a subconscious response. Meaning your brain is literally programmed to react that way. You have already carried out the action before you had time to process it.
If this were true, no behavioural changes would be possible,yet they are, for anyone who wishes to do so. Your instinctive response and your actions are two entirely different things.
So your suggesting it's not true? How do you think behavioural changes happen? You essentially have to reprogram your brain to respond differently. People don't think negatively by choice or make bad decisions because they want to. If who you are and what you do was simply a choice then we'd all live very happy lives. "
But it is, people who are stable and happy tend be be characterized by considering the potential outcomes of their actions and not seeing the entire world as revolving around them and their needs - also known as maturity. |
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"I think sometimes we are far too harsh on other people and we fail to stop and realise that a person's personality isn't shaped by choice.
We are all sadly conditioned differently. Some people are fortunate enough for example to of had loving parents and maybe they are physically attractive so they always had luck with the ladies etc
The other person might have had equally loving parents but their parent skills perhaps were lacking so they are being raised differently and forming differently. Likewise perhaps they weren't as attractive physically as person X so they may have struggled with the opposite sex and that has brought about issues etc
Neither person is a bad person at the heart of who they are. Both are very different people not by choice but from their upbringing, experiences etc
Who they became was ultimately beyond their control and now they have made it to adulthood they get judged and labelled etc
In reality everyone of us here has had a different life and it has molded who we are. Alot of people won't like each other here and will talk crap about each other etc but in reality the vast majority of people are good people at heart. We've all just grown up differently etc
The girl in question is no different.
We may be shaped by our experiences but our actions are a choice.
That's where your wrong. If you think all actions are a choice then you don't understand how the mind / neurology works.
We cannot absolve ourselves of personal responsibility, tempting though it might be
Technically we can. Society tells us we can't however. Your actions are in most cases a subconscious response. Meaning your brain is literally programmed to react that way. You have already carried out the action before you had time to process it.
If this were true, no behavioural changes would be possible,yet they are, for anyone who wishes to do so. Your instinctive response and your actions are two entirely different things.
So your suggesting it's not true? How do you think behavioural changes happen? You essentially have to reprogram your brain to respond differently. People don't think negatively by choice or make bad decisions because they want to. If who you are and what you do was simply a choice then we'd all live very happy lives.
But it is, people who are stable and happy tend be be characterized by considering the potential outcomes of their actions and not seeing the entire world as revolving around them and their needs - also known as maturity."
But your merely referring to a conscious thought process before making a decision. That's completely different to how your subconscious works. I don't know the stats but a huge percentage of the thoughts we think and things we do are done subconsciously. This is why some of us develop bad habits and find it so hard to break that habit. If it were merely a choice then breaking the habit would be easy. Likewise take a person that commits suicide. They have carried out an action that is essentially a response to their thoughts, mood and so forth. It's not a case of simply deciding will i or won't i and making a conscious decision. It's far more complex. We have less control then we think and we are ultimately at the mercy of our minds. |
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"I think sometimes we are far too harsh on other people and we fail to stop and realise that a person's personality isn't shaped by choice.
We are all sadly conditioned differently. Some people are fortunate enough for example to of had loving parents and maybe they are physically attractive so they always had luck with the ladies etc
The other person might have had equally loving parents but their parent skills perhaps were lacking so they are being raised differently and forming differently. Likewise perhaps they weren't as attractive physically as person X so they may have struggled with the opposite sex and that has brought about issues etc
Neither person is a bad person at the heart of who they are. Both are very different people not by choice but from their upbringing, experiences etc
Who they became was ultimately beyond their control and now they have made it to adulthood they get judged and labelled etc
In reality everyone of us here has had a different life and it has molded who we are. Alot of people won't like each other here and will talk crap about each other etc but in reality the vast majority of people are good people at heart. We've all just grown up differently etc
The girl in question is no different.
We may be shaped by our experiences but our actions are a choice.
That's where your wrong. If you think all actions are a choice then you don't understand how the mind / neurology works.
We cannot absolve ourselves of personal responsibility, tempting though it might be
Technically we can. Society tells us we can't however. Your actions are in most cases a subconscious response. Meaning your brain is literally programmed to react that way. You have already carried out the action before you had time to process it.
If this were true, no behavioural changes would be possible,yet they are, for anyone who wishes to do so. Your instinctive response and your actions are two entirely different things.
So your suggesting it's not true? How do you think behavioural changes happen? You essentially have to reprogram your brain to respond differently. People don't think negatively by choice or make bad decisions because they want to. If who you are and what you do was simply a choice then we'd all live very happy lives.
But it is, people who are stable and happy tend be be characterized by considering the potential outcomes of their actions and not seeing the entire world as revolving around them and their needs - also known as maturity.
But your merely referring to a conscious thought process before making a decision. That's completely different to how your subconscious works. I don't know the stats but a huge percentage of the thoughts we think and things we do are done subconsciously. This is why some of us develop bad habits and find it so hard to break that habit. If it were merely a choice then breaking the habit would be easy. Likewise take a person that commits suicide. They have carried out an action that is essentially a response to their thoughts, mood and so forth. It's not a case of simply deciding will i or won't i and making a conscious decision. It's far more complex. We have less control then we think and we are ultimately at the mercy of our minds."
Learned helplessness is little more than a cop-out. Taking control of one's thoughts and actions is exactly how depression and other mental health issues are overcome. |
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"I think sometimes we are far too harsh on other people and we fail to stop and realise that a person's personality isn't shaped by choice.
We are all sadly conditioned differently. Some people are fortunate enough for example to of had loving parents and maybe they are physically attractive so they always had luck with the ladies etc
The other person might have had equally loving parents but their parent skills perhaps were lacking so they are being raised differently and forming differently. Likewise perhaps they weren't as attractive physically as person X so they may have struggled with the opposite sex and that has brought about issues etc
Neither person is a bad person at the heart of who they are. Both are very different people not by choice but from their upbringing, experiences etc
Who they became was ultimately beyond their control and now they have made it to adulthood they get judged and labelled etc
In reality everyone of us here has had a different life and it has molded who we are. Alot of people won't like each other here and will talk crap about each other etc but in reality the vast majority of people are good people at heart. We've all just grown up differently etc
The girl in question is no different.
We may be shaped by our experiences but our actions are a choice.
That's where your wrong. If you think all actions are a choice then you don't understand how the mind / neurology works.
We cannot absolve ourselves of personal responsibility, tempting though it might be
Technically we can. Society tells us we can't however. Your actions are in most cases a subconscious response. Meaning your brain is literally programmed to react that way. You have already carried out the action before you had time to process it.
If this were true, no behavioural changes would be possible,yet they are, for anyone who wishes to do so. Your instinctive response and your actions are two entirely different things.
So your suggesting it's not true? How do you think behavioural changes happen? You essentially have to reprogram your brain to respond differently. People don't think negatively by choice or make bad decisions because they want to. If who you are and what you do was simply a choice then we'd all live very happy lives.
But it is, people who are stable and happy tend be be characterized by considering the potential outcomes of their actions and not seeing the entire world as revolving around them and their needs - also known as maturity.
But your merely referring to a conscious thought process before making a decision. That's completely different to how your subconscious works. I don't know the stats but a huge percentage of the thoughts we think and things we do are done subconsciously. This is why some of us develop bad habits and find it so hard to break that habit. If it were merely a choice then breaking the habit would be easy. Likewise take a person that commits suicide. They have carried out an action that is essentially a response to their thoughts, mood and so forth. It's not a case of simply deciding will i or won't i and making a conscious decision. It's far more complex. We have less control then we think and we are ultimately at the mercy of our minds.
Learned helplessness is little more than a cop-out. Taking control of one's thoughts and actions is exactly how depression and other mental health issues are overcome."
Why do you need to take control if you already have control according to you? You have a very poor misunderstanding of how the mind works. You almost make it sound like depression is a result of not controlling your thoughts like it's your own fault if your depressed. Educate urself on neurology / physcology |
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It started of as just fun but she obviously caught feelings for you and I think you should have been frank with her and explain this is just sex thing nothing else. You might not have thought so but accompanying her to a wedding and other things in her mind it’s realky cementing the relationship that you’re both on the same page |
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"I think sometimes we are far too harsh on other people and we fail to stop and realise that a person's personality isn't shaped by choice.
We are all sadly conditioned differently. Some people are fortunate enough for example to of had loving parents and maybe they are physically attractive so they always had luck with the ladies etc
The other person might have had equally loving parents but their parent skills perhaps were lacking so they are being raised differently and forming differently. Likewise perhaps they weren't as attractive physically as person X so they may have struggled with the opposite sex and that has brought about issues etc
Neither person is a bad person at the heart of who they are. Both are very different people not by choice but from their upbringing, experiences etc
Who they became was ultimately beyond their control and now they have made it to adulthood they get judged and labelled etc
In reality everyone of us here has had a different life and it has molded who we are. Alot of people won't like each other here and will talk crap about each other etc but in reality the vast majority of people are good people at heart. We've all just grown up differently etc
The girl in question is no different.
We may be shaped by our experiences but our actions are a choice.
That's where your wrong. If you think all actions are a choice then you don't understand how the mind / neurology works.
We cannot absolve ourselves of personal responsibility, tempting though it might be
Technically we can. Society tells us we can't however. Your actions are in most cases a subconscious response. Meaning your brain is literally programmed to react that way. You have already carried out the action before you had time to process it.
If this were true, no behavioural changes would be possible,yet they are, for anyone who wishes to do so. Your instinctive response and your actions are two entirely different things.
So your suggesting it's not true? How do you think behavioural changes happen? You essentially have to reprogram your brain to respond differently. People don't think negatively by choice or make bad decisions because they want to. If who you are and what you do was simply a choice then we'd all live very happy lives.
But it is, people who are stable and happy tend be be characterized by considering the potential outcomes of their actions and not seeing the entire world as revolving around them and their needs - also known as maturity.
But your merely referring to a conscious thought process before making a decision. That's completely different to how your subconscious works. I don't know the stats but a huge percentage of the thoughts we think and things we do are done subconsciously. This is why some of us develop bad habits and find it so hard to break that habit. If it were merely a choice then breaking the habit would be easy. Likewise take a person that commits suicide. They have carried out an action that is essentially a response to their thoughts, mood and so forth. It's not a case of simply deciding will i or won't i and making a conscious decision. It's far more complex. We have less control then we think and we are ultimately at the mercy of our minds.
Learned helplessness is little more than a cop-out. Taking control of one's thoughts and actions is exactly how depression and other mental health issues are overcome.
Why do you need to take control if you already have control according to you? You have a very poor misunderstanding of how the mind works. You almost make it sound like depression is a result of not controlling your thoughts like it's your own fault if your depressed. Educate urself on neurology / physcology "
Not at all, as someone who has had depression, I understand that it arises from feelings, and that we can take charge of our feelings. At this point, I understand very well how my mind works. You might be interested in reading "Depression is an emotion, not a disease". Of course, the notion of helplessness in the face of our own thoughts is one which plays right into the mantra of pharmaceutical companies.
Anyway, that's an aside, I'm merely making the point that whatever we may feel subconsciously, it doesn't have to determine our actions. |
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"I think sometimes we are far too harsh on other people and we fail to stop and realise that a person's personality isn't shaped by choice.
We are all sadly conditioned differently. Some people are fortunate enough for example to of had loving parents and maybe they are physically attractive so they always had luck with the ladies etc
The other person might have had equally loving parents but their parent skills perhaps were lacking so they are being raised differently and forming differently. Likewise perhaps they weren't as attractive physically as person X so they may have struggled with the opposite sex and that has brought about issues etc
Neither person is a bad person at the heart of who they are. Both are very different people not by choice but from their upbringing, experiences etc
Who they became was ultimately beyond their control and now they have made it to adulthood they get judged and labelled etc
In reality everyone of us here has had a different life and it has molded who we are. Alot of people won't like each other here and will talk crap about each other etc but in reality the vast majority of people are good people at heart. We've all just grown up differently etc
The girl in question is no different.
We may be shaped by our experiences but our actions are a choice.
That's where your wrong. If you think all actions are a choice then you don't understand how the mind / neurology works.
We cannot absolve ourselves of personal responsibility, tempting though it might be
Technically we can. Society tells us we can't however. Your actions are in most cases a subconscious response. Meaning your brain is literally programmed to react that way. You have already carried out the action before you had time to process it.
If this were true, no behavioural changes would be possible,yet they are, for anyone who wishes to do so. Your instinctive response and your actions are two entirely different things.
So your suggesting it's not true? How do you think behavioural changes happen? You essentially have to reprogram your brain to respond differently. People don't think negatively by choice or make bad decisions because they want to. If who you are and what you do was simply a choice then we'd all live very happy lives.
But it is, people who are stable and happy tend be be characterized by considering the potential outcomes of their actions and not seeing the entire world as revolving around them and their needs - also known as maturity.
But your merely referring to a conscious thought process before making a decision. That's completely different to how your subconscious works. I don't know the stats but a huge percentage of the thoughts we think and things we do are done subconsciously. This is why some of us develop bad habits and find it so hard to break that habit. If it were merely a choice then breaking the habit would be easy. Likewise take a person that commits suicide. They have carried out an action that is essentially a response to their thoughts, mood and so forth. It's not a case of simply deciding will i or won't i and making a conscious decision. It's far more complex. We have less control then we think and we are ultimately at the mercy of our minds.
Learned helplessness is little more than a cop-out. Taking control of one's thoughts and actions is exactly how depression and other mental health issues are overcome.
Why do you need to take control if you already have control according to you? You have a very poor misunderstanding of how the mind works. You almost make it sound like depression is a result of not controlling your thoughts like it's your own fault if your depressed. Educate urself on neurology / physcology
Not at all, as someone who has had depression, I understand that it arises from feelings, and that we can take charge of our feelings. At this point, I understand very well how my mind works. You might be interested in reading "Depression is an emotion, not a disease". Of course, the notion of helplessness in the face of our own thoughts is one which plays right into the mantra of pharmaceutical companies.
Anyway, that's an aside, I'm merely making the point that whatever we may feel subconsciously, it doesn't have to determine our actions. "
Depression arrises from feelings?? Lol That simple eh? what causes our feelings? Our thoughts perhaps? what controls and determines our thoughts??? Dig deep enough and you will find we are at the mercy of our minds. Our neurological wiring / programming is whats responsible for how we feel and respond to things. It's far more complex then your making out. Hormonal imbalances can also play a part. If that book you read thought you what you know then id throw it in the bin and buy a new book. By your logic everyone suffering from mental health issues is suffering because they aren't taking charge of their feelings. |
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A lot has being made abour going to the wedding with her .i would have no problem being my fbs plus one at a social event just like my fab meets i like a social side to my sexual meets dinner a few drinks out in the pub etc if i do not want to spend social time with my meet i will not want to have sex with her i would rather my own company than a meet ride and go and the best about this site we can match up with like minded people who think the same |
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"I think sometimes we are far too harsh on other people and we fail to stop and realise that a person's personality isn't shaped by choice.
We are all sadly conditioned differently. Some people are fortunate enough for example to of had loving parents and maybe they are physically attractive so they always had luck with the ladies etc
The other person might have had equally loving parents but their parent skills perhaps were lacking so they are being raised differently and forming differently. Likewise perhaps they weren't as attractive physically as person X so they may have struggled with the opposite sex and that has brought about issues etc
Neither person is a bad person at the heart of who they are. Both are very different people not by choice but from their upbringing, experiences etc
Who they became was ultimately beyond their control and now they have made it to adulthood they get judged and labelled etc
In reality everyone of us here has had a different life and it has molded who we are. Alot of people won't like each other here and will talk crap about each other etc but in reality the vast majority of people are good people at heart. We've all just grown up differently etc
The girl in question is no different.
We may be shaped by our experiences but our actions are a choice.
That's where your wrong. If you think all actions are a choice then you don't understand how the mind / neurology works.
We cannot absolve ourselves of personal responsibility, tempting though it might be
Technically we can. Society tells us we can't however. Your actions are in most cases a subconscious response. Meaning your brain is literally programmed to react that way. You have already carried out the action before you had time to process it.
If this were true, no behavioural changes would be possible,yet they are, for anyone who wishes to do so. Your instinctive response and your actions are two entirely different things.
So your suggesting it's not true? How do you think behavioural changes happen? You essentially have to reprogram your brain to respond differently. People don't think negatively by choice or make bad decisions because they want to. If who you are and what you do was simply a choice then we'd all live very happy lives.
But it is, people who are stable and happy tend be be characterized by considering the potential outcomes of their actions and not seeing the entire world as revolving around them and their needs - also known as maturity.
But your merely referring to a conscious thought process before making a decision. That's completely different to how your subconscious works. I don't know the stats but a huge percentage of the thoughts we think and things we do are done subconsciously. This is why some of us develop bad habits and find it so hard to break that habit. If it were merely a choice then breaking the habit would be easy. Likewise take a person that commits suicide. They have carried out an action that is essentially a response to their thoughts, mood and so forth. It's not a case of simply deciding will i or won't i and making a conscious decision. It's far more complex. We have less control then we think and we are ultimately at the mercy of our minds.
Learned helplessness is little more than a cop-out. Taking control of one's thoughts and actions is exactly how depression and other mental health issues are overcome.
Why do you need to take control if you already have control according to you? You have a very poor misunderstanding of how the mind works. You almost make it sound like depression is a result of not controlling your thoughts like it's your own fault if your depressed. Educate urself on neurology / physcology
Not at all, as someone who has had depression, I understand that it arises from feelings, and that we can take charge of our feelings. At this point, I understand very well how my mind works. You might be interested in reading "Depression is an emotion, not a disease". Of course, the notion of helplessness in the face of our own thoughts is one which plays right into the mantra of pharmaceutical companies.
Anyway, that's an aside, I'm merely making the point that whatever we may feel subconsciously, it doesn't have to determine our actions.
Depression arrises from feelings?? Lol That simple eh? what causes our feelings? Our thoughts perhaps? what controls and determines our thoughts??? Dig deep enough and you will find we are at the mercy of our minds. Our neurological wiring / programming is whats responsible for how we feel and respond to things. It's far more complex then your making out. Hormonal imbalances can also play a part. If that book you read thought you what you know then id throw it in the bin and buy a new book. By your logic everyone suffering from mental health issues is suffering because they aren't taking charge of their feelings. "
I imagine the medical professionals who wrote the book drew from experience, however I don't doubt for one moment that the victim at the mercy of their own mind is an approach that will appeal to some. If we had no power to change our feelings, where could explain the success of cognitive therapy, exercise, volunteer work and positive self-care in the treatment of depression? Not only does it change a person's mindset, but it helps give them back a sense of control over their own life. |
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"Did anyone think to ask if the lady in question is a member of this site and perhaps isn’t aware that this is being played out...? "
Hi no she is not she asked me to find her a lady to play with on here as it was one of her (things) she wanted to try. I explained it would be so much easier if she joined as ladies would get a better response then a single profile male. I think her answer was why bark when you have a dog |
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"I think sometimes we are far too harsh on other people and we fail to stop and realise that a person's personality isn't shaped by choice.
We are all sadly conditioned differently. Some people are fortunate enough for example to of had loving parents and maybe they are physically attractive so they always had luck with the ladies etc
The other person might have had equally loving parents but their parent skills perhaps were lacking so they are being raised differently and forming differently. Likewise perhaps they weren't as attractive physically as person X so they may have struggled with the opposite sex and that has brought about issues etc
Neither person is a bad person at the heart of who they are. Both are very different people not by choice but from their upbringing, experiences etc
Who they became was ultimately beyond their control and now they have made it to adulthood they get judged and labelled etc
In reality everyone of us here has had a different life and it has molded who we are. Alot of people won't like each other here and will talk crap about each other etc but in reality the vast majority of people are good people at heart. We've all just grown up differently etc
The girl in question is no different.
We may be shaped by our experiences but our actions are a choice.
That's where your wrong. If you think all actions are a choice then you don't understand how the mind / neurology works.
We cannot absolve ourselves of personal responsibility, tempting though it might be
Technically we can. Society tells us we can't however. Your actions are in most cases a subconscious response. Meaning your brain is literally programmed to react that way. You have already carried out the action before you had time to process it.
If this were true, no behavioural changes would be possible,yet they are, for anyone who wishes to do so. Your instinctive response and your actions are two entirely different things.
So your suggesting it's not true? How do you think behavioural changes happen? You essentially have to reprogram your brain to respond differently. People don't think negatively by choice or make bad decisions because they want to. If who you are and what you do was simply a choice then we'd all live very happy lives.
But it is, people who are stable and happy tend be be characterized by considering the potential outcomes of their actions and not seeing the entire world as revolving around them and their needs - also known as maturity.
But your merely referring to a conscious thought process before making a decision. That's completely different to how your subconscious works. I don't know the stats but a huge percentage of the thoughts we think and things we do are done subconsciously. This is why some of us develop bad habits and find it so hard to break that habit. If it were merely a choice then breaking the habit would be easy. Likewise take a person that commits suicide. They have carried out an action that is essentially a response to their thoughts, mood and so forth. It's not a case of simply deciding will i or won't i and making a conscious decision. It's far more complex. We have less control then we think and we are ultimately at the mercy of our minds.
Learned helplessness is little more than a cop-out. Taking control of one's thoughts and actions is exactly how depression and other mental health issues are overcome.
Why do you need to take control if you already have control according to you? You have a very poor misunderstanding of how the mind works. You almost make it sound like depression is a result of not controlling your thoughts like it's your own fault if your depressed. Educate urself on neurology / physcology
Not at all, as someone who has had depression, I understand that it arises from feelings, and that we can take charge of our feelings. At this point, I understand very well how my mind works. You might be interested in reading "Depression is an emotion, not a disease". Of course, the notion of helplessness in the face of our own thoughts is one which plays right into the mantra of pharmaceutical companies.
Anyway, that's an aside, I'm merely making the point that whatever we may feel subconsciously, it doesn't have to determine our actions.
Depression arrises from feelings?? Lol That simple eh? what causes our feelings? Our thoughts perhaps? what controls and determines our thoughts??? Dig deep enough and you will find we are at the mercy of our minds. Our neurological wiring / programming is whats responsible for how we feel and respond to things. It's far more complex then your making out. Hormonal imbalances can also play a part. If that book you read thought you what you know then id throw it in the bin and buy a new book. By your logic everyone suffering from mental health issues is suffering because they aren't taking charge of their feelings.
I imagine the medical professionals who wrote the book drew from experience, however I don't doubt for one moment that the victim at the mercy of their own mind is an approach that will appeal to some. If we had no power to change our feelings, where could explain the success of cognitive therapy, exercise, volunteer work and positive self-care in the treatment of depression? Not only does it change a person's mindset, but it helps give them back a sense of control over their own life."
Nobody is disputing wether or not you have the power to change your life around. But your not understanding the root cause. Therapy etc is a tool to learn new coping skills etc It's not a cure or a fix so to speak. If mental health was a result of not controlling our feelings then that implies that anyone with mental health issues are responsible for them and it also suggests that controlling ur feelings gets rid of the issue but it doesn't. The problem is always there. You can only learn new skills to cope better etc Why? Because it's more to do with neurological pathways etc then you simply making a decision to change how you feel. What your saying and implying is an insult to anyone that sufferes with mental health problems or has lost someone to mental health issues. You have no idea what your talking about |
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"Are all women crazy?god no
I had a similiar situation over 10 years ago.it was this on off thing,mainly just sex but with a lot of temper tantrums and mood swings.none on my side might i add lol
It got a little crazy over the years as it went on and on and i mean crazy to the point i had to call the guards.....
Wasnt till 2 years ago that she got diagnosed with bipolar.
Do what you want with that information."
Well, you know what they say..... if the symptoms are there the symptoms are there.
Doesn't take a professional to make a diagnosis if certain symptoms are obvious for those in the know.
If a professional turns round and says that somebody with bi polar doesn't have bi polar does that mean that person doesn't have bi polar or the professional is wrong.
Why should people be afraid to point out or suggest an obvious personality disorder just because one hasn't yet been "officially" diagnosed. |
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I think I have to learn to separate or put my life in segments. Looking at it now I was wrong to go to the wedding with her. I should of said no.
I will put my hands up and admit I think she was looking for a reaction of jealousy but I am just not wired that way.
Maybe if I had flipped the lid and got mad she would have been happier but it really did not bother me that she was with my friends.
The conclusion is that I have cut off communication and I am moving on.
I will keep my FBuddies in one part of my life and not introduce them to friends ??
I have to say I never thought I would get this responce on here it is like a support group ??
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Have to say every post was interesting and valid to the person making them from personal experiences i wonder would a group discussion face to face work ? Something new instead of a m&g or house party would we all fall out if i had an afternoon debating session would i get takers ? |
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"I think I have to learn to separate or put my life in segments. Looking at it now I was wrong to go to the wedding with her. I should of said no.
I will put my hands up and admit I think she was looking for a reaction of jealousy but I am just not wired that way.
Maybe if I had flipped the lid and got mad she would have been happier but it really did not bother me that she was with my friends.
The conclusion is that I have cut off communication and I am moving on.
I will keep my FBuddies in one part of my life and not introduce them to friends ??
I have to say I never thought I would get this responce on here it is like a support group ??
Thank you for taking the time to everybody who wrote. "
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"I think sometimes we are far too harsh on other people and we fail to stop and realise that a person's personality isn't shaped by choice.
We are all sadly conditioned differently. Some people are fortunate enough for example to of had loving parents and maybe they are physically attractive so they always had luck with the ladies etc
The other person might have had equally loving parents but their parent skills perhaps were lacking so they are being raised differently and forming differently. Likewise perhaps they weren't as attractive physically as person X so they may have struggled with the opposite sex and that has brought about issues etc
Neither person is a bad person at the heart of who they are. Both are very different people not by choice but from their upbringing, experiences etc
Who they became was ultimately beyond their control and now they have made it to adulthood they get judged and labelled etc
In reality everyone of us here has had a different life and it has molded who we are. Alot of people won't like each other here and will talk crap about each other etc but in reality the vast majority of people are good people at heart. We've all just grown up differently etc
The girl in question is no different.
We may be shaped by our experiences but our actions are a choice.
That's where your wrong. If you think all actions are a choice then you don't understand how the mind / neurology works.
We cannot absolve ourselves of personal responsibility, tempting though it might be
Technically we can. Society tells us we can't however. Your actions are in most cases a subconscious response. Meaning your brain is literally programmed to react that way. You have already carried out the action before you had time to process it.
If this were true, no behavioural changes would be possible,yet they are, for anyone who wishes to do so. Your instinctive response and your actions are two entirely different things.
So your suggesting it's not true? How do you think behavioural changes happen? You essentially have to reprogram your brain to respond differently. People don't think negatively by choice or make bad decisions because they want to. If who you are and what you do was simply a choice then we'd all live very happy lives.
But it is, people who are stable and happy tend be be characterized by considering the potential outcomes of their actions and not seeing the entire world as revolving around them and their needs - also known as maturity.
But your merely referring to a conscious thought process before making a decision. That's completely different to how your subconscious works. I don't know the stats but a huge percentage of the thoughts we think and things we do are done subconsciously. This is why some of us develop bad habits and find it so hard to break that habit. If it were merely a choice then breaking the habit would be easy. Likewise take a person that commits suicide. They have carried out an action that is essentially a response to their thoughts, mood and so forth. It's not a case of simply deciding will i or won't i and making a conscious decision. It's far more complex. We have less control then we think and we are ultimately at the mercy of our minds.
Learned helplessness is little more than a cop-out. Taking control of one's thoughts and actions is exactly how depression and other mental health issues are overcome.
Why do you need to take control if you already have control according to you? You have a very poor misunderstanding of how the mind works. You almost make it sound like depression is a result of not controlling your thoughts like it's your own fault if your depressed. Educate urself on neurology / physcology
Not at all, as someone who has had depression, I understand that it arises from feelings, and that we can take charge of our feelings. At this point, I understand very well how my mind works. You might be interested in reading "Depression is an emotion, not a disease". Of course, the notion of helplessness in the face of our own thoughts is one which plays right into the mantra of pharmaceutical companies.
Anyway, that's an aside, I'm merely making the point that whatever we may feel subconsciously, it doesn't have to determine our actions.
Depression arrises from feelings?? Lol That simple eh? what causes our feelings? Our thoughts perhaps? what controls and determines our thoughts??? Dig deep enough and you will find we are at the mercy of our minds. Our neurological wiring / programming is whats responsible for how we feel and respond to things. It's far more complex then your making out. Hormonal imbalances can also play a part. If that book you read thought you what you know then id throw it in the bin and buy a new book. By your logic everyone suffering from mental health issues is suffering because they aren't taking charge of their feelings.
I imagine the medical professionals who wrote the book drew from experience, however I don't doubt for one moment that the victim at the mercy of their own mind is an approach that will appeal to some. If we had no power to change our feelings, where could explain the success of cognitive therapy, exercise, volunteer work and positive self-care in the treatment of depression? Not only does it change a person's mindset, but it helps give them back a sense of control over their own life.
Nobody is disputing wether or not you have the power to change your life around. But your not understanding the root cause. Therapy etc is a tool to learn new coping skills etc It's not a cure or a fix so to speak. If mental health was a result of not controlling our feelings then that implies that anyone with mental health issues are responsible for them and it also suggests that controlling ur feelings gets rid of the issue but it doesn't. The problem is always there. You can only learn new skills to cope better etc Why? Because it's more to do with neurological pathways etc then you simply making a decision to change how you feel. What your saying and implying is an insult to anyone that sufferes with mental health problems or has lost someone to mental health issues. You have no idea what your talking about "
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"I think sometimes we are far too harsh on other people and we fail to stop and realise that a person's personality isn't shaped by choice.
We are all sadly conditioned differently. Some people are fortunate enough for example to of had loving parents and maybe they are physically attractive so they always had luck with the ladies etc
The other person might have had equally loving parents but their parent skills perhaps were lacking so they are being raised differently and forming differently. Likewise perhaps they weren't as attractive physically as person X so they may have struggled with the opposite sex and that has brought about issues etc
Neither person is a bad person at the heart of who they are. Both are very different people not by choice but from their upbringing, experiences etc
Who they became was ultimately beyond their control and now they have made it to adulthood they get judged and labelled etc
In reality everyone of us here has had a different life and it has molded who we are. Alot of people won't like each other here and will talk crap about each other etc but in reality the vast majority of people are good people at heart. We've all just grown up differently etc
The girl in question is no different.
We may be shaped by our experiences but our actions are a choice.
That's where your wrong. If you think all actions are a choice then you don't understand how the mind / neurology works.
We cannot absolve ourselves of personal responsibility, tempting though it might be
Technically we can. Society tells us we can't however. Your actions are in most cases a subconscious response. Meaning your brain is literally programmed to react that way. You have already carried out the action before you had time to process it.
If this were true, no behavioural changes would be possible,yet they are, for anyone who wishes to do so. Your instinctive response and your actions are two entirely different things.
So your suggesting it's not true? How do you think behavioural changes happen? You essentially have to reprogram your brain to respond differently. People don't think negatively by choice or make bad decisions because they want to. If who you are and what you do was simply a choice then we'd all live very happy lives.
But it is, people who are stable and happy tend be be characterized by considering the potential outcomes of their actions and not seeing the entire world as revolving around them and their needs - also known as maturity.
But your merely referring to a conscious thought process before making a decision. That's completely different to how your subconscious works. I don't know the stats but a huge percentage of the thoughts we think and things we do are done subconsciously. This is why some of us develop bad habits and find it so hard to break that habit. If it were merely a choice then breaking the habit would be easy. Likewise take a person that commits suicide. They have carried out an action that is essentially a response to their thoughts, mood and so forth. It's not a case of simply deciding will i or won't i and making a conscious decision. It's far more complex. We have less control then we think and we are ultimately at the mercy of our minds.
Learned helplessness is little more than a cop-out. Taking control of one's thoughts and actions is exactly how depression and other mental health issues are overcome.
Why do you need to take control if you already have control according to you? You have a very poor misunderstanding of how the mind works. You almost make it sound like depression is a result of not controlling your thoughts like it's your own fault if your depressed. Educate urself on neurology / physcology
Not at all, as someone who has had depression, I understand that it arises from feelings, and that we can take charge of our feelings. At this point, I understand very well how my mind works. You might be interested in reading "Depression is an emotion, not a disease". Of course, the notion of helplessness in the face of our own thoughts is one which plays right into the mantra of pharmaceutical companies.
Anyway, that's an aside, I'm merely making the point that whatever we may feel subconsciously, it doesn't have to determine our actions.
Depression arrises from feelings?? Lol That simple eh? what causes our feelings? Our thoughts perhaps? what controls and determines our thoughts??? Dig deep enough and you will find we are at the mercy of our minds. Our neurological wiring / programming is whats responsible for how we feel and respond to things. It's far more complex then your making out. Hormonal imbalances can also play a part. If that book you read thought you what you know then id throw it in the bin and buy a new book. By your logic everyone suffering from mental health issues is suffering because they aren't taking charge of their feelings.
I imagine the medical professionals who wrote the book drew from experience, however I don't doubt for one moment that the victim at the mercy of their own mind is an approach that will appeal to some. If we had no power to change our feelings, where could explain the success of cognitive therapy, exercise, volunteer work and positive self-care in the treatment of depression? Not only does it change a person's mindset, but it helps give them back a sense of control over their own life.
Nobody is disputing wether or not you have the power to change your life around. But your not understanding the root cause. Therapy etc is a tool to learn new coping skills etc It's not a cure or a fix so to speak. If mental health was a result of not controlling our feelings then that implies that anyone with mental health issues are responsible for them and it also suggests that controlling ur feelings gets rid of the issue but it doesn't. The problem is always there. You can only learn new skills to cope better etc Why? Because it's more to do with neurological pathways etc then you simply making a decision to change how you feel. What your saying and implying is an insult to anyone that sufferes with mental health problems or has lost someone to mental health issues. You have no idea what your talking about
And frankly I find what you say to be insulting to our capacity for inner strength and self-determination."
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"I think sometimes we are far too harsh on other people and we fail to stop and realise that a person's personality isn't shaped by choice.
We are all sadly conditioned differently. Some people are fortunate enough for example to of had loving parents and maybe they are physically attractive so they always had luck with the ladies etc
The other person might have had equally loving parents but their parent skills perhaps were lacking so they are being raised differently and forming differently. Likewise perhaps they weren't as attractive physically as person X so they may have struggled with the opposite sex and that has brought about issues etc
Neither person is a bad person at the heart of who they are. Both are very different people not by choice but from their upbringing, experiences etc
Who they became was ultimately beyond their control and now they have made it to adulthood they get judged and labelled etc
In reality everyone of us here has had a different life and it has molded who we are. Alot of people won't like each other here and will talk crap about each other etc but in reality the vast majority of people are good people at heart. We've all just grown up differently etc
The girl in question is no different.
We may be shaped by our experiences but our actions are a choice.
That's where your wrong. If you think all actions are a choice then you don't understand how the mind / neurology works.
We cannot absolve ourselves of personal responsibility, tempting though it might be
Technically we can. Society tells us we can't however. Your actions are in most cases a subconscious response. Meaning your brain is literally programmed to react that way. You have already carried out the action before you had time to process it.
If this were true, no behavioural changes would be possible,yet they are, for anyone who wishes to do so. Your instinctive response and your actions are two entirely different things.
So your suggesting it's not true? How do you think behavioural changes happen? You essentially have to reprogram your brain to respond differently. People don't think negatively by choice or make bad decisions because they want to. If who you are and what you do was simply a choice then we'd all live very happy lives.
But it is, people who are stable and happy tend be be characterized by considering the potential outcomes of their actions and not seeing the entire world as revolving around them and their needs - also known as maturity.
But your merely referring to a conscious thought process before making a decision. That's completely different to how your subconscious works. I don't know the stats but a huge percentage of the thoughts we think and things we do are done subconsciously. This is why some of us develop bad habits and find it so hard to break that habit. If it were merely a choice then breaking the habit would be easy. Likewise take a person that commits suicide. They have carried out an action that is essentially a response to their thoughts, mood and so forth. It's not a case of simply deciding will i or won't i and making a conscious decision. It's far more complex. We have less control then we think and we are ultimately at the mercy of our minds.
Learned helplessness is little more than a cop-out. Taking control of one's thoughts and actions is exactly how depression and other mental health issues are overcome.
Why do you need to take control if you already have control according to you? You have a very poor misunderstanding of how the mind works. You almost make it sound like depression is a result of not controlling your thoughts like it's your own fault if your depressed. Educate urself on neurology / physcology
Not at all, as someone who has had depression, I understand that it arises from feelings, and that we can take charge of our feelings. At this point, I understand very well how my mind works. You might be interested in reading "Depression is an emotion, not a disease". Of course, the notion of helplessness in the face of our own thoughts is one which plays right into the mantra of pharmaceutical companies.
Anyway, that's an aside, I'm merely making the point that whatever we may feel subconsciously, it doesn't have to determine our actions.
Depression arrises from feelings?? Lol That simple eh? what causes our feelings? Our thoughts perhaps? what controls and determines our thoughts??? Dig deep enough and you will find we are at the mercy of our minds. Our neurological wiring / programming is whats responsible for how we feel and respond to things. It's far more complex then your making out. Hormonal imbalances can also play a part. If that book you read thought you what you know then id throw it in the bin and buy a new book. By your logic everyone suffering from mental health issues is suffering because they aren't taking charge of their feelings.
I imagine the medical professionals who wrote the book drew from experience, however I don't doubt for one moment that the victim at the mercy of their own mind is an approach that will appeal to some. If we had no power to change our feelings, where could explain the success of cognitive therapy, exercise, volunteer work and positive self-care in the treatment of depression? Not only does it change a person's mindset, but it helps give them back a sense of control over their own life.
Nobody is disputing wether or not you have the power to change your life around. But your not understanding the root cause. Therapy etc is a tool to learn new coping skills etc It's not a cure or a fix so to speak. If mental health was a result of not controlling our feelings then that implies that anyone with mental health issues are responsible for them and it also suggests that controlling ur feelings gets rid of the issue but it doesn't. The problem is always there. You can only learn new skills to cope better etc Why? Because it's more to do with neurological pathways etc then you simply making a decision to change how you feel. What your saying and implying is an insult to anyone that sufferes with mental health problems or has lost someone to mental health issues. You have no idea what your talking about
And frankly I find what you say to be insulting to our capacity for inner strength and self-determination.
Really? Despite me clearly saying you can change your life around / over come these things? Ha "
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"I think sometimes we are far too harsh on other people and we fail to stop and realise that a person's personality isn't shaped by choice.
We are all sadly conditioned differently. Some people are fortunate enough for example to of had loving parents and maybe they are physically attractive so they always had luck with the ladies etc
The other person might have had equally loving parents but their parent skills perhaps were lacking so they are being raised differently and forming differently. Likewise perhaps they weren't as attractive physically as person X so they may have struggled with the opposite sex and that has brought about issues etc
Neither person is a bad person at the heart of who they are. Both are very different people not by choice but from their upbringing, experiences etc
Who they became was ultimately beyond their control and now they have made it to adulthood they get judged and labelled etc
In reality everyone of us here has had a different life and it has molded who we are. Alot of people won't like each other here and will talk crap about each other etc but in reality the vast majority of people are good people at heart. We've all just grown up differently etc
The girl in question is no different.
We may be shaped by our experiences but our actions are a choice.
That's where your wrong. If you think all actions are a choice then you don't understand how the mind / neurology works.
We cannot absolve ourselves of personal responsibility, tempting though it might be
Technically we can. Society tells us we can't however. Your actions are in most cases a subconscious response. Meaning your brain is literally programmed to react that way. You have already carried out the action before you had time to process it.
If this were true, no behavioural changes would be possible,yet they are, for anyone who wishes to do so. Your instinctive response and your actions are two entirely different things.
So your suggesting it's not true? How do you think behavioural changes happen? You essentially have to reprogram your brain to respond differently. People don't think negatively by choice or make bad decisions because they want to. If who you are and what you do was simply a choice then we'd all live very happy lives.
But it is, people who are stable and happy tend be be characterized by considering the potential outcomes of their actions and not seeing the entire world as revolving around them and their needs - also known as maturity.
But your merely referring to a conscious thought process before making a decision. That's completely different to how your subconscious works. I don't know the stats but a huge percentage of the thoughts we think and things we do are done subconsciously. This is why some of us develop bad habits and find it so hard to break that habit. If it were merely a choice then breaking the habit would be easy. Likewise take a person that commits suicide. They have carried out an action that is essentially a response to their thoughts, mood and so forth. It's not a case of simply deciding will i or won't i and making a conscious decision. It's far more complex. We have less control then we think and we are ultimately at the mercy of our minds.
Learned helplessness is little more than a cop-out. Taking control of one's thoughts and actions is exactly how depression and other mental health issues are overcome.
Why do you need to take control if you already have control according to you? You have a very poor misunderstanding of how the mind works. You almost make it sound like depression is a result of not controlling your thoughts like it's your own fault if your depressed. Educate urself on neurology / physcology
Not at all, as someone who has had depression, I understand that it arises from feelings, and that we can take charge of our feelings. At this point, I understand very well how my mind works. You might be interested in reading "Depression is an emotion, not a disease". Of course, the notion of helplessness in the face of our own thoughts is one which plays right into the mantra of pharmaceutical companies.
Anyway, that's an aside, I'm merely making the point that whatever we may feel subconsciously, it doesn't have to determine our actions.
Depression arrises from feelings?? Lol That simple eh? what causes our feelings? Our thoughts perhaps? what controls and determines our thoughts??? Dig deep enough and you will find we are at the mercy of our minds. Our neurological wiring / programming is whats responsible for how we feel and respond to things. It's far more complex then your making out. Hormonal imbalances can also play a part. If that book you read thought you what you know then id throw it in the bin and buy a new book. By your logic everyone suffering from mental health issues is suffering because they aren't taking charge of their feelings.
I imagine the medical professionals who wrote the book drew from experience, however I don't doubt for one moment that the victim at the mercy of their own mind is an approach that will appeal to some. If we had no power to change our feelings, where could explain the success of cognitive therapy, exercise, volunteer work and positive self-care in the treatment of depression? Not only does it change a person's mindset, but it helps give them back a sense of control over their own life.
Nobody is disputing wether or not you have the power to change your life around. But your not understanding the root cause. Therapy etc is a tool to learn new coping skills etc It's not a cure or a fix so to speak. If mental health was a result of not controlling our feelings then that implies that anyone with mental health issues are responsible for them and it also suggests that controlling ur feelings gets rid of the issue but it doesn't. The problem is always there. You can only learn new skills to cope better etc Why? Because it's more to do with neurological pathways etc then you simply making a decision to change how you feel. What your saying and implying is an insult to anyone that sufferes with mental health problems or has lost someone to mental health issues. You have no idea what your talking about
And frankly I find what you say to be insulting to our capacity for inner strength and self-determination.
Really? Despite me clearly saying you can change your life around / over come these things? Ha
On the contrary, I know that part to be true "
I'm reading both your comments and I think your both right. Neurologically their are certain parts of our brain we can't control but on the other hand we can retrain our brain and learn to deal with our emotions. If you look at depression alone, their isn't alone one type. Depression itself is divided up into at least four different types and if you go into what others were saying about this lady being "crazy" we could divide that up into many different symptoms and then sub categorized into different conditions. Our brains neuroligically is still not fully understood.
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"I think sometimes we are far too harsh on other people and we fail to stop and realise that a person's personality isn't shaped by choice.
We are all sadly conditioned differently. Some people are fortunate enough for example to of had loving parents and maybe they are physically attractive so they always had luck with the ladies etc
The other person might have had equally loving parents but their parent skills perhaps were lacking so they are being raised differently and forming differently. Likewise perhaps they weren't as attractive physically as person X so they may have struggled with the opposite sex and that has brought about issues etc
Neither person is a bad person at the heart of who they are. Both are very different people not by choice but from their upbringing, experiences etc
Who they became was ultimately beyond their control and now they have made it to adulthood they get judged and labelled etc
In reality everyone of us here has had a different life and it has molded who we are. Alot of people won't like each other here and will talk crap about each other etc but in reality the vast majority of people are good people at heart. We've all just grown up differently etc
The girl in question is no different.
We may be shaped by our experiences but our actions are a choice.
That's where your wrong. If you think all actions are a choice then you don't understand how the mind / neurology works.
We cannot absolve ourselves of personal responsibility, tempting though it might be
Technically we can. Society tells us we can't however. Your actions are in most cases a subconscious response. Meaning your brain is literally programmed to react that way. You have already carried out the action before you had time to process it.
If this were true, no behavioural changes would be possible,yet they are, for anyone who wishes to do so. Your instinctive response and your actions are two entirely different things.
So your suggesting it's not true? How do you think behavioural changes happen? You essentially have to reprogram your brain to respond differently. People don't think negatively by choice or make bad decisions because they want to. If who you are and what you do was simply a choice then we'd all live very happy lives.
But it is, people who are stable and happy tend be be characterized by considering the potential outcomes of their actions and not seeing the entire world as revolving around them and their needs - also known as maturity.
But your merely referring to a conscious thought process before making a decision. That's completely different to how your subconscious works. I don't know the stats but a huge percentage of the thoughts we think and things we do are done subconsciously. This is why some of us develop bad habits and find it so hard to break that habit. If it were merely a choice then breaking the habit would be easy. Likewise take a person that commits suicide. They have carried out an action that is essentially a response to their thoughts, mood and so forth. It's not a case of simply deciding will i or won't i and making a conscious decision. It's far more complex. We have less control then we think and we are ultimately at the mercy of our minds.
Learned helplessness is little more than a cop-out. Taking control of one's thoughts and actions is exactly how depression and other mental health issues are overcome.
Why do you need to take control if you already have control according to you? You have a very poor misunderstanding of how the mind works. You almost make it sound like depression is a result of not controlling your thoughts like it's your own fault if your depressed. Educate urself on neurology / physcology
Not at all, as someone who has had depression, I understand that it arises from feelings, and that we can take charge of our feelings. At this point, I understand very well how my mind works. You might be interested in reading "Depression is an emotion, not a disease". Of course, the notion of helplessness in the face of our own thoughts is one which plays right into the mantra of pharmaceutical companies.
Anyway, that's an aside, I'm merely making the point that whatever we may feel subconsciously, it doesn't have to determine our actions.
Depression arrises from feelings?? Lol That simple eh? what causes our feelings? Our thoughts perhaps? what controls and determines our thoughts??? Dig deep enough and you will find we are at the mercy of our minds. Our neurological wiring / programming is whats responsible for how we feel and respond to things. It's far more complex then your making out. Hormonal imbalances can also play a part. If that book you read thought you what you know then id throw it in the bin and buy a new book. By your logic everyone suffering from mental health issues is suffering because they aren't taking charge of their feelings.
I imagine the medical professionals who wrote the book drew from experience, however I don't doubt for one moment that the victim at the mercy of their own mind is an approach that will appeal to some. If we had no power to change our feelings, where could explain the success of cognitive therapy, exercise, volunteer work and positive self-care in the treatment of depression? Not only does it change a person's mindset, but it helps give them back a sense of control over their own life.
Nobody is disputing wether or not you have the power to change your life around. But your not understanding the root cause. Therapy etc is a tool to learn new coping skills etc It's not a cure or a fix so to speak. If mental health was a result of not controlling our feelings then that implies that anyone with mental health issues are responsible for them and it also suggests that controlling ur feelings gets rid of the issue but it doesn't. The problem is always there. You can only learn new skills to cope better etc Why? Because it's more to do with neurological pathways etc then you simply making a decision to change how you feel. What your saying and implying is an insult to anyone that sufferes with mental health problems or has lost someone to mental health issues. You have no idea what your talking about
And frankly I find what you say to be insulting to our capacity for inner strength and self-determination.
Really? Despite me clearly saying you can change your life around / over come these things? Ha
On the contrary, I know that part to be true
I'm reading both your comments and I think your both right. Neurologically their are certain parts of our brain we can't control but on the other hand we can retrain our brain and learn to deal with our emotions. If you look at depression alone, their isn't alone one type. Depression itself is divided up into at least four different types and if you go into what others were saying about this lady being "crazy" we could divide that up into many different symptoms and then sub categorized into different conditions. Our brains neuroligically is still not fully understood.
That's my opinion of course "
There is even studies now that back up what iam saying and show scans of the brain in ppl with mental health issues show different results then those with no mental health issues. You can see increases / decreases in activity in certain parts of the brain. If mental health issues were a product of our feelings then changing how we feel would essentially cure the condition but we know that's not possible. We can't only learn to develop new skills to cope better etc |
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"I think sometimes we are far too harsh on other people and we fail to stop and realise that a person's personality isn't shaped by choice.
We are all sadly conditioned differently. Some people are fortunate enough for example to of had loving parents and maybe they are physically attractive so they always had luck with the ladies etc
The other person might have had equally loving parents but their parent skills perhaps were lacking so they are being raised differently and forming differently. Likewise perhaps they weren't as attractive physically as person X so they may have struggled with the opposite sex and that has brought about issues etc
Neither person is a bad person at the heart of who they are. Both are very different people not by choice but from their upbringing, experiences etc
Who they became was ultimately beyond their control and now they have made it to adulthood they get judged and labelled etc
In reality everyone of us here has had a different life and it has molded who we are. Alot of people won't like each other here and will talk crap about each other etc but in reality the vast majority of people are good people at heart. We've all just grown up differently etc
The girl in question is no different.
We may be shaped by our experiences but our actions are a choice.
That's where your wrong. If you think all actions are a choice then you don't understand how the mind / neurology works.
We cannot absolve ourselves of personal responsibility, tempting though it might be
Technically we can. Society tells us we can't however. Your actions are in most cases a subconscious response. Meaning your brain is literally programmed to react that way. You have already carried out the action before you had time to process it.
If this were true, no behavioural changes would be possible,yet they are, for anyone who wishes to do so. Your instinctive response and your actions are two entirely different things.
So your suggesting it's not true? How do you think behavioural changes happen? You essentially have to reprogram your brain to respond differently. People don't think negatively by choice or make bad decisions because they want to. If who you are and what you do was simply a choice then we'd all live very happy lives.
But it is, people who are stable and happy tend be be characterized by considering the potential outcomes of their actions and not seeing the entire world as revolving around them and their needs - also known as maturity.
But your merely referring to a conscious thought process before making a decision. That's completely different to how your subconscious works. I don't know the stats but a huge percentage of the thoughts we think and things we do are done subconsciously. This is why some of us develop bad habits and find it so hard to break that habit. If it were merely a choice then breaking the habit would be easy. Likewise take a person that commits suicide. They have carried out an action that is essentially a response to their thoughts, mood and so forth. It's not a case of simply deciding will i or won't i and making a conscious decision. It's far more complex. We have less control then we think and we are ultimately at the mercy of our minds.
Learned helplessness is little more than a cop-out. Taking control of one's thoughts and actions is exactly how depression and other mental health issues are overcome.
Why do you need to take control if you already have control according to you? You have a very poor misunderstanding of how the mind works. You almost make it sound like depression is a result of not controlling your thoughts like it's your own fault if your depressed. Educate urself on neurology / physcology
Not at all, as someone who has had depression, I understand that it arises from feelings, and that we can take charge of our feelings. At this point, I understand very well how my mind works. You might be interested in reading "Depression is an emotion, not a disease". Of course, the notion of helplessness in the face of our own thoughts is one which plays right into the mantra of pharmaceutical companies.
Anyway, that's an aside, I'm merely making the point that whatever we may feel subconsciously, it doesn't have to determine our actions.
Depression arrises from feelings?? Lol That simple eh? what causes our feelings? Our thoughts perhaps? what controls and determines our thoughts??? Dig deep enough and you will find we are at the mercy of our minds. Our neurological wiring / programming is whats responsible for how we feel and respond to things. It's far more complex then your making out. Hormonal imbalances can also play a part. If that book you read thought you what you know then id throw it in the bin and buy a new book. By your logic everyone suffering from mental health issues is suffering because they aren't taking charge of their feelings.
I imagine the medical professionals who wrote the book drew from experience, however I don't doubt for one moment that the victim at the mercy of their own mind is an approach that will appeal to some. If we had no power to change our feelings, where could explain the success of cognitive therapy, exercise, volunteer work and positive self-care in the treatment of depression? Not only does it change a person's mindset, but it helps give them back a sense of control over their own life.
Nobody is disputing wether or not you have the power to change your life around. But your not understanding the root cause. Therapy etc is a tool to learn new coping skills etc It's not a cure or a fix so to speak. If mental health was a result of not controlling our feelings then that implies that anyone with mental health issues are responsible for them and it also suggests that controlling ur feelings gets rid of the issue but it doesn't. The problem is always there. You can only learn new skills to cope better etc Why? Because it's more to do with neurological pathways etc then you simply making a decision to change how you feel. What your saying and implying is an insult to anyone that sufferes with mental health problems or has lost someone to mental health issues. You have no idea what your talking about
And frankly I find what you say to be insulting to our capacity for inner strength and self-determination.
Really? Despite me clearly saying you can change your life around / over come these things? Ha
On the contrary, I know that part to be true
I'm reading both your comments and I think your both right. Neurologically their are certain parts of our brain we can't control but on the other hand we can retrain our brain and learn to deal with our emotions. If you look at depression alone, their isn't alone one type. Depression itself is divided up into at least four different types and if you go into what others were saying about this lady being "crazy" we could divide that up into many different symptoms and then sub categorized into different conditions. Our brains neuroligically is still not fully understood.
That's my opinion of course
There is even studies now that back up what iam saying and show scans of the brain in ppl with mental health issues show different results then those with no mental health issues. You can see increases / decreases in activity in certain parts of the brain. If mental health issues were a product of our feelings then changing how we feel would essentially cure the condition but we know that's not possible. We can't only learn to develop new skills to cope better etc"
I'm not sure if you have a back ground in this particular subject or only an interest but I obviously didn't make my self clear. You can have both....many people develop conditions die to feelings where as others already have it, hence heridatory conditions and non heridatory |
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"Maybe some ladies can help me get my head around what happened.
My F buddy and I have great sex. She would call me at 2 or 3 in the morning and say get your ass over here now I would head over and we would have fun. I would be in work and she would text me let's meet for lunch, you can eat me??. We would meet.
I would text her and get, not now busy or just a flat out no.
She was using me and that is grand because I was using her as well.
She had asked me to go to a wedding with her as a plus one.
We went had a great time. First time I met her friends and family everybody loved me.
When the wedding was over she flipped saying I was too nice and all her friends and family loved me(like that was a bad thing).
I said let's take a break because her mood swings were doing my head in.
Now she wants a proper relationship but I just don't think she is stable enough for one so I said no. In 2 days she had slept with 2 of my friends.
She rang me to tell me and I said that was grand she is a free agent and I don't have any problems with her riding anybody.
Ended up her shouting down the phone that I was I prick.
Any anyone explain to me what I did wrong? Trying to get my head around why I am a prick. ?? "
Move, change your name and consider plastic surgery.. i mean seriously, do you really need anyone to tell you that having anything to do with this woman is the wirst if ideas?? Any sort of serious relationship with this persin will end up in a custodial sentence for someone, or a lot of time in A&E.. |
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"So within 1 post amateur psychologist's have diagnosed her as "crazy". Always amazes me how quick people jump on the bandwagon when the other side of the story has not been told. I hope none of those quick to judge ever end up on a jury.
"If" the story is as reported there is more than likely a background story to why she may behave as such. Who's to know what situation's have conditioned the neurological patterns she has.
Not being rational in a particular situation does not automatically mean someone is crazy.
I would suggest the vast majority of people on this thread have been irrational at some point in their lives.
For a site where people say they are not judgemental the guillotine does indeed drop fast with little compassion or empathy.
Maybe the chasm between a projected sense of self and the actual reality is "crazy" or irrational .
From a "crazy" woman
I would like to hear her side of the story "
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She has fallen head over heels in love with ya! Love makes you act crazy lol. Her mood swings come from feeling insecure,not knowing where she stands with ya. She's actually screaming out asking do you feel the same. She didn't give a hoot about your two friends.it was just to get a reaction from you,to know if you'd get jealous over it or not in order to know if you care!
If you think anything of the girl just tell her straight up if you actually want a proper relationship or not. Her head is wrecked wondering if you love her back or not!
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"She has fallen head over heels in love with ya! Love makes you act crazy lol. Her mood swings come from feeling insecure,not knowing where she stands with ya. She's actually screaming out asking do you feel the same. She didn't give a hoot about your two friends.it was just to get a reaction from you,to know if you'd get jealous over it or not in order to know if you care!
If you think anything of the girl just tell her straight up if you actually want a proper relationship or not. Her head is wrecked wondering if you love her back or not!
Best of luck with it "
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I was shagging a married woman from Drogheda. She seemed nice and fun at the start then she demanded that i up and leave everything for her. One night she got thick and attacked me with a knife . Lol . There are some fucked up women on this little island of ours . But some amazing women to ?? |
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"Maybe some ladies can help me get my head around what happened.
My F buddy and I have great sex. She would call me at 2 or 3 in the morning and say get your ass over here now I would head over and we would have fun. I would be in work and she would text me let's meet for lunch, you can eat me??. We would meet.
I would text her and get, not now busy or just a flat out no.
She was using me and that is grand because I was using her as well.
She had asked me to go to a wedding with her as a plus one.
We went had a great time. First time I met her friends and family everybody loved me.
When the wedding was over she flipped saying I was too nice and all her friends and family loved me(like that was a bad thing).
I said let's take a break because her mood swings were doing my head in.
Now she wants a proper relationship but I just don't think she is stable enough for one so I said no. In 2 days she had slept with 2 of my friends.
She rang me to tell me and I said that was grand she is a free agent and I don't have any problems with her riding anybody.
Ended up her shouting down the phone that I was I prick.
Any anyone explain to me what I did wrong? Trying to get my head around why I am a prick. ?? "
You done nothing wrong lad. The girl has mental issues ,and she deserves sympathy not slagged off .Red flags galore here for previous historical sexual /mental abuse ,or worse.Be nice to her stay friends, incourage her to seek councelling. Terminate you're sexual affairs with her,avoid conflict at all times , and wish her well. That's my tuppence worth . Harry |
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Not all ladies are crazy but fuck me you found the Ultimate Crazy Frog there. By a one way ticket to the far side of the Galaxy and I still believe that is still not a safe distance to get away from her. |
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"Not all ladies are crazy but fuck me you found the Ultimate Crazy Frog there. By a one way ticket to the far side of the Galaxy and I still believe that is still not a safe distance to get away from her. "
All ladies ARE crazy. U just have to find a girl tat.... 1.. Is just the right amount of crazy for u to deal with and 2 that's just enough crazy to deal with the shite we put them true.. Like farting in the bed/car/or something else that boils there blood.  |
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