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He's one serious hypocrite though. Has he ever looked at the list of people who have had honours from the crown or even thought about what the empire meant for those on the receiving end, including the rohingya? |
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over a year ago
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Ah leave him be. He said on the steps of the council building where he was publicly handing back the honour that he wasn't making a big scene of it.
Between him sorting out Burma and John Halligan giving the North Koreans a good telling off, if I was an Asian leader with anything dodgy going on, I'd have a lackey full time reading the Irish Times website..... |
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By *orguyMan
over a year ago
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He's a disgrace to Ireland. He had a very short lived musical career and since then he has lived of other peoples hardship, starvation and poverty.
Don't know how any sensible person could support this guy. |
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By *eanontiWoman
over a year ago
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I was around for live aid. And it was a fantastic day and night. And the money that was raised was amazing. Here in Ireland we had our copycat selfaid for about 10 years.
That being said it wasn't just Bob behind it. Midge Ure sits in the background. Only appearing in documentaries about it.
I don't like him. I used to. |
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Personally I have a tendency to like anyone that stands up and challenges the accepted societal"norms" and I would think most swingers would be of a similar mindset, though I am not professing to speak for anyone other than myself here.
He's had quite a long musical career, contrary to an above post, both with the Rats and as a solo artist.
I believe he's also quite a successful TV company owner.
I find him not dissimilar to Richard Branson in many ways but because he's one of our own, a lot of us diss his efforts. It's very hard to find other examples of recent Irish people who have done as much, or raised as much, for other people in a true way. I'm sure some will challenge this statement but remember, it's just my opinion, not a qualified fact. |
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He's a self promoting tosser who has made a genuine crisis all about him in this country,for years he chastised the ordinary working man for not donating enough of the money he had paid his taxes on while squirrelling away millions tax free for himself. Himself and banjo must have some serious self love sessions any time they meet up. |
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
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I think this is massive hypocrisy on the part of SF to play whataboutery. They have had a bone to pick with Geldof for years. They are just using his protest to have another pop at him.
The KBE thing is just an excuse to attack Geldof. He has been scathingly critical of Irish society and the establishment. Most famously on the Late Late with Gaybo and a few years ago with John Murray on RTE. He didn't hold back on either occasion. The truth hurts sometimes and we didn't like this gobby arrogant 'rock educated prick not mincing his words.
Ireland has a lot in common with Burma, I'll leave that for another time. |
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"He's a disgrace to Ireland. He had a very short lived musical career and since then he has lived of other peoples hardship, starvation and poverty.
Don't know how any sensible person could support this guy."
How did he live off it ?. Typical Irish begruding attitude. How much of your time have you given up to causes to help those less fortunate than your own ?. Beggars belief that anyone could have an issue with him bringing public attention the beginnings of a genocide. Maybe if would be more to your taste if a popular band or sports star did the same. Rolling my eyes so hard here I can see out of my arse |
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"He's a disgrace to Ireland. He had a very short lived musical career and since then he has lived of other peoples hardship, starvation and poverty.
Don't know how any sensible person could support this guy.
How did he live off it ?. Typical Irish begruding attitude. How much of your time have you given up to causes to help those less fortunate than your own ?. Beggars belief that anyone could have an issue with him bringing public attention the beginnings of a genocide. Maybe if would be more to your taste if a popular band or sports star did the same. Rolling my eyes so hard here I can see out of my arse"
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"I think this is massive hypocrisy on the part of SF to play whataboutery. They have had a bone to pick with Geldof for years. They are just using his protest to have another pop at him.
The KBE thing is just an excuse to attack Geldof. He has been scathingly critical of Irish society and the establishment. Most famously on the Late Late with Gaybo and a few years ago with John Murray on RTE. He didn't hold back on either occasion. The truth hurts sometimes and we didn't like this gobby arrogant 'rock educated prick not mincing his words.
Ireland has a lot in common with Burma, I'll leave that for another time."
Bob Geldof has done good work but that doesn't stop him from being a hypocrite.
Handing back his royal honour would be a logical step if this was about principles since there are plenty of people guilty of heinous crimes on it. The first that springs to mind being the commander of the paras that killed 14 civilians in Derry in '72 just after they had killed 11 civilians in Ballymurphy the previous year. There are military officers and civil servants on the list who oversaw the genocide in Kenya in the fifties as well which included the murder of thousands of prisoners as well as the torture and mutilation of thousands more. Castration of prisoners was even practiced on occasions. Didn't the former Lord Mayor of Ballymena get an honour? The man that declared that the devastation of New Orleans was caused by gay people? I think it's fair enough to point out that hypocrisy even Bob claims he's doing this as a point of principle.
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By *orguyMan
over a year ago
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"He's a disgrace to Ireland. He had a very short lived musical career and since then he has lived of other peoples hardship, starvation and poverty.
Don't know how any sensible person could support this guy.
How did he live off it ?. Typical Irish begruding attitude. How much of your time have you given up to causes to help those less fortunate than your own ?. Beggars belief that anyone could have an issue with him bringing public attention the beginnings of a genocide. Maybe if would be more to your taste if a popular band or sports star did the same. Rolling my eyes so hard here I can see out of my arse"
That's because your talking out of your arse.
If I and so many others didn't have to work for a living and could live off others misfortune, then we could give up all of our time to those less fortunate.
Who said Bob Geldof is not popular?? More talking out of your arse.
Where did I say I have an issue with him publicising anything??? I said I have an issue with him making a living out of others misfortune.
Many others have done more in a much quieter and more humbled way.
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
Derry |
"I think this is massive hypocrisy on the part of SF to play whataboutery. They have had a bone to pick with Geldof for years. They are just using his protest to have another pop at him.
The KBE thing is just an excuse to attack Geldof. He has been scathingly critical of Irish society and the establishment. Most famously on the Late Late with Gaybo and a few years ago with John Murray on RTE. He didn't hold back on either occasion. The truth hurts sometimes and we didn't like this gobby arrogant 'rock educated prick not mincing his words.
Ireland has a lot in common with Burma, I'll leave that for another time.
Bob Geldof has done good work but that doesn't stop him from being a hypocrite.
Handing back his royal honour would be a logical step if this was about principles since there are plenty of people guilty of heinous crimes on it. The first that springs to mind being the commander of the paras that killed 14 civilians in Derry in '72 just after they had killed 11 civilians in Ballymurphy the previous year. There are military officers and civil servants on the list who oversaw the genocide in Kenya in the fifties as well which included the murder of thousands of prisoners as well as the torture and mutilation of thousands more. Castration of prisoners was even practiced on occasions. Didn't the former Lord Mayor of Ballymena get an honour? The man that declared that the devastation of New Orleans was caused by gay people? I think it's fair enough to point out that hypocrisy even Bob claims he's doing this as a point of principle.
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On account of Geldof being an Irish citizen, he will never be 'Sir Bob'. It's a good one to throw at him, I grant you that. I doubt I ever will, but if I was offered a similar British honour, I would decline.
I won't dispute the British colonial legacy, they don't call the Union Jack the butchers apron for nothing. Thats for another topic. But I will say its a bit of a stretch to equate the honorary award that he got from to imply a guilt by association for the British colonial legacy.
Geldof is using this draw attention to on ongoing genocide, (which has its origins from when Britain ruled Burma.) SF are using his protest to have another pop at him.
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"I think this is massive hypocrisy on the part of SF to play whataboutery. They have had a bone to pick with Geldof for years. They are just using his protest to have another pop at him.
The KBE thing is just an excuse to attack Geldof. He has been scathingly critical of Irish society and the establishment. Most famously on the Late Late with Gaybo and a few years ago with John Murray on RTE. He didn't hold back on either occasion. The truth hurts sometimes and we didn't like this gobby arrogant 'rock educated prick not mincing his words.
Ireland has a lot in common with Burma, I'll leave that for another time.
Bob Geldof has done good work but that doesn't stop him from being a hypocrite.
Handing back his royal honour would be a logical step if this was about principles since there are plenty of people guilty of heinous crimes on it. The first that springs to mind being the commander of the paras that killed 14 civilians in Derry in '72 just after they had killed 11 civilians in Ballymurphy the previous year. There are military officers and civil servants on the list who oversaw the genocide in Kenya in the fifties as well which included the murder of thousands of prisoners as well as the torture and mutilation of thousands more. Castration of prisoners was even practiced on occasions. Didn't the former Lord Mayor of Ballymena get an honour? The man that declared that the devastation of New Orleans was caused by gay people? I think it's fair enough to point out that hypocrisy even Bob claims he's doing this as a point of principle.
On account of Geldof being an Irish citizen, he will never be 'Sir Bob'. It's a good one to throw at him, I grant you that. I doubt I ever will, but if I was offered a similar British honour, I would decline.
I won't dispute the British colonial legacy, they don't call the Union Jack the butchers apron for nothing. Thats for another topic. But I will say its a bit of a stretch to equate the honorary award that he got from to imply a guilt by association for the British colonial legacy.
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I'm not suggesting that at all. If we started that there'd be no end to it. I'm simply saying that his "principle" causes him to give back the Irish honour as he fears guilt by association himself where Aung San Suu Kyi is concerned yet he doesn't have any issues with the British last which has some unsavoury characters on it as well. Having said that, the title bestowed on him even references the empire which in itself associates him with colonialism.
" Sf are using his protest to have another pop at him.
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The Lord Mayor of Dublin responded to the issue. SF aren't overly concerned with what Bob does as far as I know. I think Bob has had a lot more pops at SF over the years than the other way round tbh.
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By *aid backMan
over a year ago
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I actually can't stand pontificating celebrities of his and bonos ilk. The preach to all in sundry about poverty and helping people yet they use every mechanism to pay as little tax as possible the same tax that would go to helping people.
And on the live aid thing what did it actually do? There's still campaigns for charity donations to feed people in africa including ethiopia. |
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"I actually can't stand pontificating celebrities of his and bonos ilk. The preach to all in sundry about poverty and helping people yet they use every mechanism to pay as little tax as possible the same tax that would go to helping people.
And on the live aid thing what did it actually do? There's still campaigns for charity donations to feed people in africa including ethiopia. "
Well band aid raised 8 million from record sales alone. More than the British and Irish governments combined
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"I actually can't stand pontificating celebrities of his and bonos ilk. The preach to all in sundry about poverty and helping people yet they use every mechanism to pay as little tax as possible the same tax that would go to helping people.
And on the live aid thing what did it actually do? There's still campaigns for charity donations to feed people in africa including ethiopia.
Well band aid raised 8 million from record sales alone. More than the British and Irish governments combined
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and very little actually went to those who needed it most. |
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"I actually can't stand pontificating celebrities of his and bonos ilk. The preach to all in sundry about poverty and helping people yet they use every mechanism to pay as little tax as possible the same tax that would go to helping people.
And on the live aid thing what did it actually do? There's still campaigns for charity donations to feed people in africa including ethiopia.
Well band aid raised 8 million from record sales alone. More than the British and Irish governments combined
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They raised a staggering amount of money. The biggest problem was what was done with the money. Numerous aid agencies, including medicines sans frontiers, had asked for the money to be withheld until the civil war was dealt with as it was the major cause of the genocide/starvation. Instead an enormous proportion of the money ended up being controlled by the Ethiopian government/military which developed the best equipped army in Africa, despite being one of the most poverty stricken countries in the world.
Having said that, it was a noble gesture and people contributed generously, it just wasn't thought through properly and in hindsight it was counter productive to a great extent. Ignoring organisations like MSF who have a proven track record and invaluable experience on the ground is never a good idea. |
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
Derry |
"I think this is massive hypocrisy on the part of SF to play whataboutery. They have had a bone to pick with Geldof for years. They are just using his protest to have another pop at him.
The KBE thing is just an excuse to attack Geldof. He has been scathingly critical of Irish society and the establishment. Most famously on the Late Late with Gaybo and a few years ago with John Murray on RTE. He didn't hold back on either occasion. The truth hurts sometimes and we didn't like this gobby arrogant 'rock educated prick not mincing his words.
Ireland has a lot in common with Burma, I'll leave that for another time.
Bob Geldof has done good work but that doesn't stop him from being a hypocrite.
Handing back his royal honour would be a logical step if this was about principles since there are plenty of people guilty of heinous crimes on it. The first that springs to mind being the commander of the paras that killed 14 civilians in Derry in '72 just after they had killed 11 civilians in Ballymurphy the previous year. There are military officers and civil servants on the list who oversaw the genocide in Kenya in the fifties as well which included the murder of thousands of prisoners as well as the torture and mutilation of thousands more. Castration of prisoners was even practiced on occasions. Didn't the former Lord Mayor of Ballymena get an honour? The man that declared that the devastation of New Orleans was caused by gay people? I think it's fair enough to point out that hypocrisy even Bob claims he's doing this as a point of principle.
On account of Geldof being an Irish citizen, he will never be 'Sir Bob'. It's a good one to throw at him, I grant you that. I doubt I ever will, but if I was offered a similar British honour, I would decline.
I won't dispute the British colonial legacy, they don't call the Union Jack the butchers apron for nothing. Thats for another topic. But I will say its a bit of a stretch to equate the honorary award that he got from to imply a guilt by association for the British colonial legacy.
I'm not suggesting that at all. If we started that there'd be no end to it. I'm simply saying that his "principle" causes him to give back the Irish honour as he fears guilt by association himself where Aung San Suu Kyi is concerned yet he doesn't have any issues with the British last which has some unsavoury characters on it as well. Having said that, the title bestowed on him even references the empire which in itself associates him with colonialism.
Sf are using his protest to have another pop at him.
The Lord Mayor of Dublin responded to the issue. SF aren't overly concerned with what Bob does as far as I know. I think Bob has had a lot more pops at SF over the years than the other way round tbh.
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So you're not aware of Gerry complaining in the Dail about Geldofs inclusion in the video that launched the official 1916 centenary celebrations. He also attacked him in the US An phoblacht march 2016- Bob Geldof KBE – 'eyes dazed by the unsetting sun of England's Empire.
Geldof is attempting to draw attention to an ongoing genocide. Rather than highlight the issue, the lord mayor is abusing his position to play whataboutery. The same lord mayor that is happy enough to wear the mayoral chain of office that was presented by William of Orange. |
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"I think this is massive hypocrisy on the part of SF to play whataboutery. They have had a bone to pick with Geldof for years. They are just using his protest to have another pop at him.
The KBE thing is just an excuse to attack Geldof. He has been scathingly critical of Irish society and the establishment. Most famously on the Late Late with Gaybo and a few years ago with John Murray on RTE. He didn't hold back on either occasion. The truth hurts sometimes and we didn't like this gobby arrogant 'rock educated prick not mincing his words.
Ireland has a lot in common with Burma, I'll leave that for another time.
Bob Geldof has done good work but that doesn't stop him from being a hypocrite.
Handing back his royal honour would be a logical step if this was about principles since there are plenty of people guilty of heinous crimes on it. The first that springs to mind being the commander of the paras that killed 14 civilians in Derry in '72 just after they had killed 11 civilians in Ballymurphy the previous year. There are military officers and civil servants on the list who oversaw the genocide in Kenya in the fifties as well which included the murder of thousands of prisoners as well as the torture and mutilation of thousands more. Castration of prisoners was even practiced on occasions. Didn't the former Lord Mayor of Ballymena get an honour? The man that declared that the devastation of New Orleans was caused by gay people? I think it's fair enough to point out that hypocrisy even Bob claims he's doing this as a point of principle.
On account of Geldof being an Irish citizen, he will never be 'Sir Bob'. It's a good one to throw at him, I grant you that. I doubt I ever will, but if I was offered a similar British honour, I would decline.
I won't dispute the British colonial legacy, they don't call the Union Jack the butchers apron for nothing. Thats for another topic. But I will say its a bit of a stretch to equate the honorary award that he got from to imply a guilt by association for the British colonial legacy.
I'm not suggesting that at all. If we started that there'd be no end to it. I'm simply saying that his "principle" causes him to give back the Irish honour as he fears guilt by association himself where Aung San Suu Kyi is concerned yet he doesn't have any issues with the British last which has some unsavoury characters on it as well. Having said that, the title bestowed on him even references the empire which in itself associates him with colonialism.
Sf are using his protest to have another pop at him.
The Lord Mayor of Dublin responded to the issue. SF aren't overly concerned with what Bob does as far as I know. I think Bob has had a lot more pops at SF over the years than the other way round tbh.
So you're not aware of Gerry complaining in the Dail about Geldofs inclusion in the video that launched the official 1916 centenary celebrations. He also attacked him in the US An phoblacht march 2016- Bob Geldof KBE – 'eyes dazed by the unsetting sun of England's Empire.
Geldof is attempting to draw attention to an ongoing genocide. Rather than highlight the issue, the lord mayor is abusing his position to play whataboutery. The same lord mayor that is happy enough to wear the mayoral chain of office that was presented by William of Orange."
Ok, that's a couple of pops at him. I don't think that's over the top. I'm also in full agreement with the Lord Mayor's assessment. I suspect the thought of Mícheál Mac Donnacha wearing his cháin would upset the bould Billy a lot more than it would compromise the Lord Mayor's integrity. Sure we have a number of streets named after Billy here as well.  |
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He's a prick he won't hand back his knighthood will he. He was pretty silent along with his other prick buddie Bono on the illegal wars against ,Iraq, Syria, Iran the genocide of the Palestinian people he's very selective.an other NWO Muppet. H |
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
Derry |
"I think this is massive hypocrisy on the part of SF to play whataboutery. They have had a bone to pick with Geldof for years. They are just using his protest to have another pop at him.
The KBE thing is just an excuse to attack Geldof. He has been scathingly critical of Irish society and the establishment. Most famously on the Late Late with Gaybo and a few years ago with John Murray on RTE. He didn't hold back on either occasion. The truth hurts sometimes and we didn't like this gobby arrogant 'rock educated prick not mincing his words.
Ireland has a lot in common with Burma, I'll leave that for another time.
Bob Geldof has done good work but that doesn't stop him from being a hypocrite.
Handing back his royal honour would be a logical step if this was about principles since there are plenty of people guilty of heinous crimes on it. The first that springs to mind being the commander of the paras that killed 14 civilians in Derry in '72 just after they had killed 11 civilians in Ballymurphy the previous year. There are military officers and civil servants on the list who oversaw the genocide in Kenya in the fifties as well which included the murder of thousands of prisoners as well as the torture and mutilation of thousands more. Castration of prisoners was even practiced on occasions. Didn't the former Lord Mayor of Ballymena get an honour? The man that declared that the devastation of New Orleans was caused by gay people? I think it's fair enough to point out that hypocrisy even Bob claims he's doing this as a point of principle.
On account of Geldof being an Irish citizen, he will never be 'Sir Bob'. It's a good one to throw at him, I grant you that. I doubt I ever will, but if I was offered a similar British honour, I would decline.
I won't dispute the British colonial legacy, they don't call the Union Jack the butchers apron for nothing. Thats for another topic. But I will say its a bit of a stretch to equate the honorary award that he got from to imply a guilt by association for the British colonial legacy.
I'm not suggesting that at all. If we started that there'd be no end to it. I'm simply saying that his "principle" causes him to give back the Irish honour as he fears guilt by association himself where Aung San Suu Kyi is concerned yet he doesn't have any issues with the British last which has some unsavoury characters on it as well. Having said that, the title bestowed on him even references the empire which in itself associates him with colonialism.
Sf are using his protest to have another pop at him.
The Lord Mayor of Dublin responded to the issue. SF aren't overly concerned with what Bob does as far as I know. I think Bob has had a lot more pops at SF over the years than the other way round tbh.
So you're not aware of Gerry complaining in the Dail about Geldofs inclusion in the video that launched the official 1916 centenary celebrations. He also attacked him in the US An phoblacht march 2016- Bob Geldof KBE – 'eyes dazed by the unsetting sun of England's Empire.
Geldof is attempting to draw attention to an ongoing genocide. Rather than highlight the issue, the lord mayor is abusing his position to play whataboutery. The same lord mayor that is happy enough to wear the mayoral chain of office that was presented by William of Orange.
Ok, that's a couple of pops at him. I don't think that's over the top. I'm also in full agreement with the Lord Mayor's assessment. I suspect the thought of Mícheál Mac Donnacha wearing his cháin would upset the bould Billy a lot more than it would compromise the Lord Mayor's integrity. Sure we have a number of streets named after Billy here as well. "
So rather than draw attention to what is again an ongoing genocidal campaign the Lord Mayor should use this to take a swipe at a 'west brit' What is worse, a wee bit of genocide or being a hypocrite? Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
That is 4 instances where SF have had a go at Geldof, when does it become a pattern? |
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"I think this is massive hypocrisy on the part of SF to play whataboutery. They have had a bone to pick with Geldof for years. They are just using his protest to have another pop at him.
The KBE thing is just an excuse to attack Geldof. He has been scathingly critical of Irish society and the establishment. Most famously on the Late Late with Gaybo and a few years ago with John Murray on RTE. He didn't hold back on either occasion. The truth hurts sometimes and we didn't like this gobby arrogant 'rock educated prick not mincing his words.
Ireland has a lot in common with Burma, I'll leave that for another time.
Bob Geldof has done good work but that doesn't stop him from being a hypocrite.
Handing back his royal honour would be a logical step if this was about principles since there are plenty of people guilty of heinous crimes on it. The first that springs to mind being the commander of the paras that killed 14 civilians in Derry in '72 just after they had killed 11 civilians in Ballymurphy the previous year. There are military officers and civil servants on the list who oversaw the genocide in Kenya in the fifties as well which included the murder of thousands of prisoners as well as the torture and mutilation of thousands more. Castration of prisoners was even practiced on occasions. Didn't the former Lord Mayor of Ballymena get an honour? The man that declared that the devastation of New Orleans was caused by gay people? I think it's fair enough to point out that hypocrisy even Bob claims he's doing this as a point of principle.
On account of Geldof being an Irish citizen, he will never be 'Sir Bob'. It's a good one to throw at him, I grant you that. I doubt I ever will, but if I was offered a similar British honour, I would decline.
I won't dispute the British colonial legacy, they don't call the Union Jack the butchers apron for nothing. Thats for another topic. But I will say its a bit of a stretch to equate the honorary award that he got from to imply a guilt by association for the British colonial legacy.
I'm not suggesting that at all. If we started that there'd be no end to it. I'm simply saying that his "principle" causes him to give back the Irish honour as he fears guilt by association himself where Aung San Suu Kyi is concerned yet he doesn't have any issues with the British last which has some unsavoury characters on it as well. Having said that, the title bestowed on him even references the empire which in itself associates him with colonialism.
Sf are using his protest to have another pop at him.
The Lord Mayor of Dublin responded to the issue. SF aren't overly concerned with what Bob does as far as I know. I think Bob has had a lot more pops at SF over the years than the other way round tbh.
So you're not aware of Gerry complaining in the Dail about Geldofs inclusion in the video that launched the official 1916 centenary celebrations. He also attacked him in the US An phoblacht march 2016- Bob Geldof KBE – 'eyes dazed by the unsetting sun of England's Empire.
Geldof is attempting to draw attention to an ongoing genocide. Rather than highlight the issue, the lord mayor is abusing his position to play whataboutery. The same lord mayor that is happy enough to wear the mayoral chain of office that was presented by William of Orange.
Ok, that's a couple of pops at him. I don't think that's over the top. I'm also in full agreement with the Lord Mayor's assessment. I suspect the thought of Mícheál Mac Donnacha wearing his cháin would upset the bould Billy a lot more than it would compromise the Lord Mayor's integrity. Sure we have a number of streets named after Billy here as well.
So rather than draw attention to what is again an ongoing genocidal campaign the Lord Mayor should use this to take a swipe at a 'west brit' What is worse, a wee bit of genocide or being a hypocrite? Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
That is 4 instances where SF have had a go at Geldof, when does it become a pattern?"
It would be a pattern if it was out of the blue without any context. As for the genocide and handing back this particular honour, how come he didn't hand back his royal honour even Mugabe got one ten years after him. Mugabe was a hell of a lot worse than Aung San Suu Kyi who appears to be a non effective leader unable to rein in her military rather than an out and out dangerous lunatic like Mugabe was.
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
Derry |
"I think this is massive hypocrisy on the part of SF to play whataboutery. They have had a bone to pick with Geldof for years. They are just using his protest to have another pop at him.
The KBE thing is just an excuse to attack Geldof. He has been scathingly critical of Irish society and the establishment. Most famously on the Late Late with Gaybo and a few years ago with John Murray on RTE. He didn't hold back on either occasion. The truth hurts sometimes and we didn't like this gobby arrogant 'rock educated prick not mincing his words.
Ireland has a lot in common with Burma, I'll leave that for another time.
Bob Geldof has done good work but that doesn't stop him from being a hypocrite.
Handing back his royal honour would be a logical step if this was about principles since there are plenty of people guilty of heinous crimes on it. The first that springs to mind being the commander of the paras that killed 14 civilians in Derry in '72 just after they had killed 11 civilians in Ballymurphy the previous year. There are military officers and civil servants on the list who oversaw the genocide in Kenya in the fifties as well which included the murder of thousands of prisoners as well as the torture and mutilation of thousands more. Castration of prisoners was even practiced on occasions. Didn't the former Lord Mayor of Ballymena get an honour? The man that declared that the devastation of New Orleans was caused by gay people? I think it's fair enough to point out that hypocrisy even Bob claims he's doing this as a point of principle.
On account of Geldof being an Irish citizen, he will never be 'Sir Bob'. It's a good one to throw at him, I grant you that. I doubt I ever will, but if I was offered a similar British honour, I would decline.
I won't dispute the British colonial legacy, they don't call the Union Jack the butchers apron for nothing. Thats for another topic. But I will say its a bit of a stretch to equate the honorary award that he got from to imply a guilt by association for the British colonial legacy.
I'm not suggesting that at all. If we started that there'd be no end to it. I'm simply saying that his "principle" causes him to give back the Irish honour as he fears guilt by association himself where Aung San Suu Kyi is concerned yet he doesn't have any issues with the British last which has some unsavoury characters on it as well. Having said that, the title bestowed on him even references the empire which in itself associates him with colonialism.
Sf are using his protest to have another pop at him.
The Lord Mayor of Dublin responded to the issue. SF aren't overly concerned with what Bob does as far as I know. I think Bob has had a lot more pops at SF over the years than the other way round tbh.
So you're not aware of Gerry complaining in the Dail about Geldofs inclusion in the video that launched the official 1916 centenary celebrations. He also attacked him in the US An phoblacht march 2016- Bob Geldof KBE – 'eyes dazed by the unsetting sun of England's Empire.
Geldof is attempting to draw attention to an ongoing genocide. Rather than highlight the issue, the lord mayor is abusing his position to play whataboutery. The same lord mayor that is happy enough to wear the mayoral chain of office that was presented by William of Orange.
Ok, that's a couple of pops at him. I don't think that's over the top. I'm also in full agreement with the Lord Mayor's assessment. I suspect the thought of Mícheál Mac Donnacha wearing his cháin would upset the bould Billy a lot more than it would compromise the Lord Mayor's integrity. Sure we have a number of streets named after Billy here as well.
So rather than draw attention to what is again an ongoing genocidal campaign the Lord Mayor should use this to take a swipe at a 'west brit' What is worse, a wee bit of genocide or being a hypocrite? Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
That is 4 instances where SF have had a go at Geldof, when does it become a pattern?
It would be a pattern if it was out of the blue without any context. As for the genocide and handing back this particular honour, how come he didn't hand back his royal honour even Mugabe got one ten years after him. Mugabe was a hell of a lot worse than Aung San Suu Kyi who appears to be a non effective leader unable to rein in her military rather than an out and out dangerous lunatic like Mugabe was.
To be fair, my point stands. He's a hypocrite regardless of why he did it. "
Ok, Back to KBE again. Mugabe was never awarded the freedom of City of Dublin, nor was he ever awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. To argue on the grounds that this person is 'not as bad as' is pretty thin and a logical fallacy.
The Royhinga are a despised and persecuted minority in Burma and the problem is a legacy from the British. I know a few Burmese Buddhists, all decent kind people until you mention the Royhinga. They dislike muslims but they hate the royhinga. Daw Suu cannot condemn what is happening because it would be political suicide
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He could have just posted it back with a letter and that’s be not making a big deal of it
And what made me laugh ur the award taken off your woman - he wants his one back
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