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Dogging- time for a chat about rules and boundaries
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By *xhibitA OP Couple
over a year ago
Dublin |
Hello all,
Dogging and some better known dogging locations are getting busier this past few months. Probably due to sites like this and others that allow people to post statuses and talk about it openly. The result of that is a huge influx of single males frequenting some better known spots. Some spots have been ruined because of it, but in our experience there is definitely in some cases a complete disregard for boundaries and rules.
We had a bad experience the other night from a male who was using fab (could see the interface from his phone shine on his window)
It's time folks started to discuss the rules and boundaries with dogging. We're no experts but it what we like to do and it's becoming really frustrating if late.
Would we be right in saying the following rules apply? Add your own experiences too and maybe some of the males that lurk here will learn a thing or two.
1. Give couples space and don't approach unless invited to.
2. Pulling up beside a couple so close that you nearly clip wing mirrors is not appropriate and will get you rebuffed pretty swiftly.
3. Putting your interior light on is a form of communication that says "im interested"
4. A return flash of the interior light means you can approach.
5. When you approach don't plaster your face up against the window. It's freaky looking.
6. If the window gets lowered down it's an indicator to interact, this usually means chatting first. If the window is down when you arrive it's more than likely for fresh air, don't get mixed up.
7. If a couple show no interest in you and they move away, don't follow them you're not wanted. Don't be a total dick head.
8. If a couple let you watch be grateful, an attempt to communicate this is always welcomed. Pulling your plum and coming in 15 seconds then running off doesn't say much for you, unless your 16!!
9. Just because you smoke doesn't mean everyone else in the group does. Smokers tend to bring a bad smell with them in our experiences.
10. Learn to relax. Some males are so completely wired up by the occasion that they forget to blink. You look demented. Chill out, it chills everyone else out. Staring is rude.
Anyone else anything to add? We can assure ye all we've experienced all that above and worse.
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By *ombikerMan
over a year ago
the right side of the river |
There was a spot in Laois that was completely ruined because of mostly gay guys (nothing against ye) but it was also a spot to pull up in a truck to take a break or camper vans used to pull up for a picnic etc. anyway it got to a stage that it was like a scene from the walking dead only the zombies pouncing out of the bushes were pulling their plumbs in broad daylight at anyone that pulled up. Or fucking each other in plain view of passing cars.The guards ended up having to patrol the area and eventually it was all fenced off.
So the moral of the story is, be a bit considerate of non doggers, most people who turn up probably don't know it is a dogging spot. |
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By *xhibitA OP Couple
over a year ago
Dublin |
"There was a spot in Laois that was completely ruined because of mostly gay guys (nothing against ye) but it was also a spot to pull up in a truck to take a break or camper vans used to pull up for a picnic etc. anyway it got to a stage that it was like a scene from the walking dead only the zombies pouncing out of the bushes were pulling their plumbs in broad daylight at anyone that pulled up. Or fucking each other in plain view of passing cars.The guards ended up having to patrol the area and eventually it was all fenced off.
So the moral of the story is, be a bit considerate of non doggers, most people who turn up probably don't know it is a dogging spot. "
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By *vpamelaTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Hello all,
Dogging and some better known dogging locations are getting busier this past few months. Probably due to sites like this and others that allow people to post statuses and talk about it openly. The result of that is a huge influx of single males frequenting some better known spots. Some spots have been ruined because of it, but in our experience there is definitely in some cases a complete disregard for boundaries and rules.
We had a bad experience the other night from a male who was using fab (could see the interface from his phone shine on his window)
It's time folks started to discuss the rules and boundaries with dogging. We're no experts but it what we like to do and it's becoming really frustrating if late.
Would we be right in saying the following rules apply? Add your own experiences too and maybe some of the males that lurk here will learn a thing or two.
1. Give couples space and don't approach unless invited to.
2. Pulling up beside a couple so close that you nearly clip wing mirrors is not appropriate and will get you rebuffed pretty swiftly.
3. Putting your interior light on is a form of communication that says "im interested"
4. A return flash of the interior light means you can approach.
5. When you approach don't plaster your face up against the window. It's freaky looking.
6. If the window gets lowered down it's an indicator to interact, this usually means chatting first. If the window is down when you arrive it's more than likely for fresh air, don't get mixed up.
7. If a couple show no interest in you and they move away, don't follow them you're not wanted. Don't be a total dick head.
8. If a couple let you watch be grateful, an attempt to communicate this is always welcomed. Pulling your plum and coming in 15 seconds then running off doesn't say much for you, unless your 16!!
9. Just because you smoke doesn't mean everyone else in the group does. Smokers tend to bring a bad smell with them in our experiences.
10. Learn to relax. Some males are so completely wired up by the occasion that they forget to blink. You look demented. Chill out, it chills everyone else out. Staring is rude.
Anyone else anything to add? We can assure ye all we've experienced all that above and worse.
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Seems like too much hassle to enjoy. Is there an up side?  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Perhaps these rules could be put up on a poster near the dogging sites as not all doggers are on fab  "
I'm wondering if that's tongue in cheek and I'm hoping it is !!! Dogging is illegal and if police catch you and decide to make an example of you you will be put on the sex offenders register ! Please people , use common sense and discretion if your out dogging and don't ruin it for yourself and others |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I appreciate the frustration you have gone through, however once you decide to have an extremely satisfying and super hot fuck in a public place, you cannot expect others to follow your rules. Since, you're braking the law or local rules, it's up to you to make sure you're not upsetting or disturbing anyones else. Having many demands/expectations from others don't seem right at all (except opening your car's door and forcing joining in the fun of course) once you decide to have sex in a public or outdoor space. |
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By *usyatminMan
over a year ago
Wicklow, Wexford, Dublin and Carlow |
"Hello all,
Dogging and some better known dogging locations are getting busier this past few months. Probably due to sites like this and others that allow people to post statuses and talk about it openly. The result of that is a huge influx of single males frequenting some better known spots. Some spots have been ruined because of it, but in our experience there is definitely in some cases a complete disregard for boundaries and rules.
We had a bad experience the other night from a male who was using fab (could see the interface from his phone shine on his window)
It's time folks started to discuss the rules and boundaries with dogging. We're no experts but it what we like to do and it's becoming really frustrating if late.
Would we be right in saying the following rules apply? Add your own experiences too and maybe some of the males that lurk here will learn a thing or two.
1. Give couples space and don't approach unless invited to.
2. Pulling up beside a couple so close that you nearly clip wing mirrors is not appropriate and will get you rebuffed pretty swiftly.
3. Putting your interior light on is a form of communication that says "im interested"
4. A return flash of the interior light means you can approach.
5. When you approach don't plaster your face up against the window. It's freaky looking.
6. If the window gets lowered down it's an indicator to interact, this usually means chatting first. If the window is down when you arrive it's more than likely for fresh air, don't get mixed up.
7. If a couple show no interest in you and they move away, don't follow them you're not wanted. Don't be a total dick head.
8. If a couple let you watch be grateful, an attempt to communicate this is always welcomed. Pulling your plum and coming in 15 seconds then running off doesn't say much for you, unless your 16!!
9. Just because you smoke doesn't mean everyone else in the group does. Smokers tend to bring a bad smell with them in our experiences.
10. Learn to relax. Some males are so completely wired up by the occasion that they forget to blink. You look demented. Chill out, it chills everyone else out. Staring is rude.
Anyone else anything to add? We can assure ye all we've experienced all that above and worse.
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Well said and needed saying. As a dogger for many years, years before the net in fact and both here and the uk the lack of dogging etiquette amazes me sometimes. Only a true dogger and experienced couples know what enjoyment is to be had and can honestly say for me it is just the most thrilling thing. Heart thumps and feelings like no other.
Don't be disheartened as there is still fun to be had. I use a good few places which I won't disclose on an open forum ever.
Always unfortunately going to get the idiots. |
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Most of the dogging around here is organized with location only disclosed at last minute by the couple(s) themselves via text messages etc
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there are often couples around who give absolutely no signals.. so a guy approaches without clues as to rules etc!
Have been in places where no signals are given so I just drive away!!
There is confusion on both sides!! |
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By *xhibitA OP Couple
over a year ago
Dublin |
All opinions appreciated here. However there are posts that indicate the person has absolutely no clue about dogging.
Dogging is not done where the public are wandering around. No one is going to bump into a dogging meet unbeknowns to them.
Dogging locations are discreet. They're tucked away out of public glare. So less of the moralising as if it was taking place on o connell street.
There are many many doggers on fab. Dogging is even listed as an interest for your profile choice. All we are doing is raising the issue of etiquette for everyone's safety and enjoyment.
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By *xhibitA OP Couple
over a year ago
Dublin |
"Most of the dogging around here is organized with location only disclosed at last minute by the couple(s) themselves via text messages etc
BUT
there are often couples around who give absolutely no signals.. so a guy approaches without clues as to rules etc!
Have been in places where no signals are given so I just drive away!!
There is confusion on both sides!!"
True, in our experiences there are a lot of new couples exploring the idea of dogging and maybe unaware. Maybe this thread will cast light on the protocol so to speak. |
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"Most of the dogging around here is organized with location only disclosed at last minute by the couple(s) themselves via text messages etc
BUT
there are often couples around who give absolutely no signals.. so a guy approaches without clues as to rules etc!
Have been in places where no signals are given so I just drive away!!
There is confusion on both sides!!
True, in our experiences there are a lot of new couples exploring the idea of dogging and maybe unaware. Maybe this thread will cast light on the protocol so to speak."
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As soon as a spot gets know about around here the Gardai are on to it pretty quick due to idiotic guys approaching any couple parked up!
Couples complained so they send an unmarked car to places with male and female Gardai in it.... made a good few arrests for indecent exposure so I'm certainly not going to approach any car unless 100% certain they are dogging. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"All opinions appreciated here. However there are posts that indicate the person has absolutely no clue about dogging.
Dogging is not done where the public are wandering around. No one is going to bump into a dogging meet unbeknowns to them.
Dogging locations are discreet. They're tucked away out of public glare. So less of the moralising as if it was taking place on o connell street.
There are many many doggers on fab. Dogging is even listed as an interest for your profile choice. All we are doing is raising the issue of etiquette for everyone's safety and enjoyment.
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I think you're dead right to talk about dogging etiquette here. I also think the rules, they applies most to the people you invite to your dogging meet (that gives you more comfort). However, if you decide of having an outdoor fuck (this being in a more or less public, however still open space) you need to have an understanding you may encounter strangers there (regardless of them being experienced doggers or not), you have to expect they may get closer for your liking, wank in front of you, even ask if it's OK to do stuff, etc. Some of the people you'll encounter will be newbies or total strangers to dogging and will be in the spot accidentally. Others, should apply same respect as always in life. All in all, it's a open space and I do not think one can expect others to fully honour their privacy once they fuck outdoors.
One thing is the level of expectations, other thing is what I would personally do as an accidental witness of dogging. I would behave in a way not to be ashamed of myself the day after and would rather show respect to the horny couple, however wouldn't resit to have a pervy peep of their fuck, if I found the gal sexy (I like watching too). Obviously I wouldn't stand as close as for you to feel my breath on your neck, but close enough to have a good view of the action. It's a public space after all. |
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Great insight guys, it's very unspoken on here about the etiquette and any good spots (the usual places are well patrolled now).
I'm very interested in dogging, be it watching or joining in, so any and every bit of advice is welcome. Thanks OP! |
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By *xhibitA OP Couple
over a year ago
Dublin |
"All opinions appreciated here. However there are posts that indicate the person has absolutely no clue about dogging.
Dogging is not done where the public are wandering around. No one is going to bump into a dogging meet unbeknowns to them.
Dogging locations are discreet. They're tucked away out of public glare. So less of the moralising as if it was taking place on o connell street.
There are many many doggers on fab. Dogging is even listed as an interest for your profile choice. All we are doing is raising the issue of etiquette for everyone's safety and enjoyment.
I think you're dead right to talk about dogging etiquette here. I also think the rules, they applies most to the people you invite to your dogging meet (that gives you more comfort). However, if you decide of having an outdoor fuck (this being in a more or less public, however still open space) you need to have an understanding you may encounter strangers there (regardless of them being experienced doggers or not), you have to expect they may get closer for your liking, wank in front of you, even ask if it's OK to do stuff, etc. Some of the people you'll encounter will be newbies or total strangers to dogging and will be in the spot accidentally. Others, should apply same respect as always in life. All in all, it's a open space and I do not think one can expect others to fully honour their privacy once they fuck outdoors.
One thing is the level of expectations, other thing is what I would personally do as an accidental witness of dogging. I would behave in a way not to be ashamed of myself the day after and would rather show respect to the horny couple, however wouldn't resit to have a pervy peep of their fuck, if I found the gal sexy (I like watching too). Obviously I wouldn't stand as close as for you to feel my breath on your neck, but close enough to have a good view of the action. It's a public space after all. "
Not correct. By that logic you could walk up to someone on Henry street and look over their shoulder into their phone while they're texting and think it's ok. You might think it's ok to do that but you run the risk of the phone holder kicking you in the bollox.
You don't have the right to invade anyone's personal space based solely on your opinion that it's a public space.
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By *xhibitA OP Couple
over a year ago
Dublin |
"Most of the dogging around here is organized with location only disclosed at last minute by the couple(s) themselves via text messages etc
BUT
there are often couples around who give absolutely no signals.. so a guy approaches without clues as to rules etc!
Have been in places where no signals are given so I just drive away!!
There is confusion on both sides!!
True, in our experiences there are a lot of new couples exploring the idea of dogging and maybe unaware. Maybe this thread will cast light on the protocol so to speak.
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As soon as a spot gets know about around here the Gardai are on to it pretty quick due to idiotic guys approaching any couple parked up!
Couples complained so they send an unmarked car to places with male and female Gardai in it.... made a good few arrests for indecent exposure so I'm certainly not going to approach any car unless 100% certain they are dogging."
Didn't know they would do that but I'm not surprised. Any location that's mentioned on this site whether it be on a status (there's one currently being advertised as we speak) or on the forums here is compromised and you go there at your own risk |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Not correct. By that logic you could walk up to someone on Henry street and look over their shoulder into their phone while they're texting and think it's ok. You might think it's ok to do that but you run the risk of the phone holder kicking you in the bollox.
You don't have the right to invade anyone's personal space based solely on your opinion that it's a public space.
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Having sex outdoors (which despite being super fun) it's illegal in most countries. It's the engaged parties responsibility to ensure they aren't a disturbance to others. It's not same as texting and others looking over your shoulder (which is totally rude and unacceptable btw). Emotions and feelings don't trump fact and the law. |
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"Most of the dogging around here is organized with location only disclosed at last minute by the couple(s) themselves via text messages etc
BUT
there are often couples around who give absolutely no signals.. so a guy approaches without clues as to rules etc!
Have been in places where no signals are given so I just drive away!!
There is confusion on both sides!!
True, in our experiences there are a lot of new couples exploring the idea of dogging and maybe unaware. Maybe this thread will cast light on the protocol so to speak.
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As soon as a spot gets know about around here the Gardai are on to it pretty quick due to idiotic guys approaching any couple parked up!
Couples complained so they send an unmarked car to places with male and female Gardai in it.... made a good few arrests for indecent exposure so I'm certainly not going to approach any car unless 100% certain they are dogging.
Didn't know they would do that but I'm not surprised. Any location that's mentioned on this site whether it be on a status (there's one currently being advertised as we speak) or on the forums here is compromised and you go there at your own risk"
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It is a very well known picnic spot so if a guy approaches them with his truncheon out he gets handcuffs!!!  |
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By *xhibitA OP Couple
over a year ago
Dublin |
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Not correct. By that logic you could walk up to someone on Henry street and look over their shoulder into their phone while they're texting and think it's ok. You might think it's ok to do that but you run the risk of the phone holder kicking you in the bollox.
You don't have the right to invade anyone's personal space based solely on your opinion that it's a public space.
Having sex outdoors (which despite being super fun) it's illegal in most countries. It's the engaged parties responsibility to ensure they aren't a disturbance to others. It's not same as texting and others looking over your shoulder (which is totally rude and unacceptable btw). Emotions and feelings don't trump fact and the law. "
Incorrect. There is no law in Ireland that legislates for having sex outdoors. There are however public order acts where as annoyance, disturbance or an intent to cause distress or fear by carrying out indecent exposure are deemed illegal.
The word "intent" is the key here. The fact that dogging is organised discreetly in well hidden areas with consensual adults negates the idea of intent to cause distress or fear.
By the way this isn't the reason we started this thread. We've never had any issue with people stumbling into us and being offended. We have had issues with inappropriate behaviour from those who like to involve themselves in dogging gigs. That's the issue here. |
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Incorrect. There is no law in Ireland that legislates for having sex outdoors. There are however public order acts where as annoyance, disturbance or an intent to cause distress or fear by carrying out indecent exposure are deemed illegal.
The word "intent" is the key here. The fact that dogging is organised discreetly in well hidden areas with consensual adults negates the idea of intent to cause distress or fear.
By the way this isn't the reason we started this thread. We've never had any issue with people stumbling into us and being offended. We have had issues with inappropriate behaviour from those who like to involve themselves in dogging gigs. That's the issue here. "
Thank's for explaining the legal aspect. It's quite useful, as I wan't ware of how this looks like in Ireland :D
I am guilty for driving the convo away from what this was intended as originally... Apologies for that 
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" We've never had any issue with people stumbling into us and being offended. We have had issues with inappropriate behaviour from those who like to involve themselves in dogging gigs. That's the issue here. "
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It is the inappropriate behaviour that stuffs it up!! |
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over a year ago
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Couldn't you print up some signs and place them around your car so the voyeurs can read the rules? I was gonna suggest tape them inside one of the windows but I guess condensation might make the ink run.... |
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By *xhibitA OP Couple
over a year ago
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"Couldn't you print up some signs and place them around your car so the voyeurs can read the rules? I was gonna suggest tape them inside one of the windows but I guess condensation might make the ink run...."
The sign joke was made already, take your time and read the thread. I guess you're one to skip foreplay all together  |
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Niamh and Liam you would be better off organising a dogging meet with a few guys off here . You tel them your rules and what you expect . Then you won't have trouble . You tel the guys if they behave you will invite them back .simple that's what I would do |
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By *xhibitA OP Couple
over a year ago
Dublin |
"Niamh and Liam you would be better off organising a dogging meet with a few guys off here . You tel them your rules and what you expect . Then you won't have trouble . You tel the guys if they behave you will invite them back .simple that's what I would do "
Everyone we have met, mostly couples are from here. Unfortunately single males sometimes show up and don't understand the protocol/etiquette. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Very interesting thread OP...
I feel a bit akwatd as i created a post about a month ago about dogging and naming 2 places on it.... In fairness it s the 2 places google will give u if u ask... But still.....
Looking back now and reading all ur comments i didnt know it was that with lots of single guys gathering and police patrolling 
We ll be more discret next time and will choose countryside rather than spots in Dublin !
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"Couldn't you print up some signs and place them around your car so the voyeurs can read the rules? I was gonna suggest tape them inside one of the windows but I guess condensation might make the ink run....
The sign joke was made already, take your time and read the thread. I guess you're one to skip foreplay all together "
No, never been one for Ford play. |
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I went dogging one time and i drove in parralel to a couple who were happy to do a show for me as i was only other car there.i had left a tespectful distance not too close and not too far.well didnt this eejit drive into carpark and realise a show was on.he drove into the space i had left to be respectful between me and the ither car.his mirrors were nearly touching mine.wtf |
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I've never been dogging or had any interest in trying it. I can understand the thrill for voyeurs or those who get off on anonymous sex. As said each to their own. What has bugged me is a beauty spot that I know is being used. Beside picnic benches and the car park are used condoms strewn all over the place. Can't wrapping and bringing your used condoms away and safely getting rid of them be a rule? It's not on leaving that kinda stuff around with kids etc out for walks  |
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By *xhibitA OP Couple
over a year ago
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"I've never been dogging or had any interest in trying it. I can understand the thrill for voyeurs or those who get off on anonymous sex. As said each to their own. What has bugged me is a beauty spot that I know is being used. Beside picnic benches and the car park are used condoms strewn all over the place. Can't wrapping and bringing your used condoms away and safely getting rid of them be a rule? It's not on leaving that kinda stuff around with kids etc out for walks "
I could hazard a guess as to where you're talking about, If I'm right the place is a very busy gay cruising area as opposed to a dogging location |
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Fantastic discussions and a very interesting topic thanks for bringing it to the forum. Is about time people discussed proper topics. Respectful dogger in Belfast.Eric |
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"I've never been dogging or had any interest in trying it. I can understand the thrill for voyeurs or those who get off on anonymous sex. As said each to their own. What has bugged me is a beauty spot that I know is being used. Beside picnic benches and the car park are used condoms strewn all over the place. Can't wrapping and bringing your used condoms away and safely getting rid of them be a rule? It's not on leaving that kinda stuff around with kids etc out for walks "
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