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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I know this topic has been on before.
But how many verifications are too many??
Or within comfort zone ??
Just wondering. I am on the fence here.
Any advice greatly appreciated.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I don't think theres a simple answer to this one.
There could be 500 - of which 498 are from socials. And that, to me, is just fine. In fact I like those as it shows the profile is friendly and mixes well.
On the other hand a man (or woman or couple) could have 25 meets in say 3 months. All play meets and all with graphic veri's. And that would just make me think 'not going there'.
So in one case 500 isn't too many yet 25 is.
This is just my way of thinking |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Just don't know.
Think the vanilla side of me is struggling with some of fab "normal" things
I'm not sure what you mean?"
Struggling with seeing how many veris or how many partners someone has been with. A potential meet.
Don't know why it's bothering me so much. Doesn't mean the person is any less of a person. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Just don't know.
Think the vanilla side of me is struggling with some of fab "normal" things
I'm not sure what you mean?
Struggling with seeing how many veris or how many partners someone has been with. A potential meet.
Don't know why it's bothering me so much. Doesn't mean the person is any less of a person. "
I guess you just have to weigh up the amount of veris someone has against how much you're interested in meeting them |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Whatever you are comfortable with yourself I would say. Also you would have to take into account how long they have been on the site. Someone that has been here 5 years would have alot more veris then someone who has been here 1 year for example |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Whatever you are comfortable with yourself I would say. Also you would have to take into account how long they have been on the site. Someone that has been here 5 years would have alot more veris then someone who has been here 1 year for example"
Not always lol |
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By *j47Man
over a year ago
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Does it matter really if this was tinder ud not even think of his number (previous sexual encounters) here yes it's more open veris are guides that the profile is genuine and no more
Hope this helps |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Whatever you are comfortable with yourself I would say. Also you would have to take into account how long they have been on the site. Someone that has been here 5 years would have alot more veris then someone who has been here 1 year for example
Not always lol"
I should have said 'may' have alot more  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Whatever you are comfortable with yourself I would say. Also you would have to take into account how long they have been on the site. Someone that has been here 5 years would have alot more veris then someone who has been here 1 year for example
Not always lol
I should have said 'may' have alot more "
Thats better lol |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Does it matter really if this was tinder ud not even think of his number (previous sexual encounters) here yes it's more open veris are guides that the profile is genuine and no more
Hope this helps "
Oh geez that's like that thread about a lady going on a vanilla date and being asked how many men shed been with.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I don't think theres a simple answer to this one.
There could be 500 - of which 498 are from socials. And that, to me, is just fine. In fact I like those as it shows the profile is friendly and mixes well.
On the other hand a man (or woman or couple) could have 25 meets in say 3 months. All play meets and all with graphic veri's. And that would just make me think 'not going there'.
So in one case 500 isn't too many yet 25 is.
This is just my way of thinking"
Exactly this ^^^^^^^^^^
Lots of socials/coffees and I'm the exact same when it comes to verifications...
Graphic is a big turn off... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I have to admit its the type they choose to display more than the number they have, that gelpzs me decide wether to send or reply with/too the first message."
I have loads...
I prefer to display recent ones...
I have many verifications that are worded nicely or probably flattering, but they are old I'd prefer to display recent ones... |
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By *j47Man
over a year ago
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"Does it matter really if this was tinder ud not even think of his number (previous sexual encounters) here yes it's more open veris are guides that the profile is genuine and no more
Hope this helps
Oh geez that's like that thread about a lady going on a vanilla date and being asked how many men shed been with. "
Exactly
If u were that lady what would ur response be |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Does it matter really if this was tinder ud not even think of his number (previous sexual encounters) here yes it's more open veris are guides that the profile is genuine and no more
Hope this helps
Oh geez that's like that thread about a lady going on a vanilla date and being asked how many men shed been with.
Exactly
If u were that lady what would ur response be "
To be honest. Aren't vanilla and fab two different things?? Am I getting mixed up ?? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Does it matter really if this was tinder ud not even think of his number (previous sexual encounters) here yes it's more open veris are guides that the profile is genuine and no more
Hope this helps
Oh geez that's like that thread about a lady going on a vanilla date and being asked how many men shed been with.
Exactly
If u were that lady what would ur response be "
What's a men shed is it like a lady shed... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I think if your open minded enough to be on here in the first place then verifications while important don't really mean anything..Unless you have 500 graphic ones which I haven't come across yet..
My motto is don't judge a book by its cover and if you find someone you click with..
So what if they have 1/10/20 veris..
The most important thing is you trust them..and have a connection.. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I think if your open minded enough to be on here in the first place then verifications while important don't really mean anything..Unless you have 500 graphic ones which I haven't come across yet..
My motto is don't judge a book by its cover and if you find someone you click with..
So what if they have 1/10/20 veris..
The most important thing is you trust them..and have a connection.."
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think if your open minded enough to be on here in the first place then verifications while important don't really mean anything..Unless you have 500 graphic ones which I haven't come across yet..
My motto is don't judge a book by its cover and if you find someone you click with..
So what if they have 1/10/20 veris..
The most important thing is you trust them..and have a connection..
Thank you I needed to hear that "
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By *j47Man
over a year ago
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"Does it matter really if this was tinder ud not even think of his number (previous sexual encounters) here yes it's more open veris are guides that the profile is genuine and no more
Hope this helps
Oh geez that's like that thread about a lady going on a vanilla date and being asked how many men shed been with.
Exactly
If u were that lady what would ur response be
To be honest. Aren't vanilla and fab two different things?? Am I getting mixed up ?? "
Yes in my humble opinion I think u are veris are to say this person done as they said they would and turned up also they are as described in their bio,the saucy bit is irrelevant after all up spice may be another lady's salt
This is a swing site we joined here knowing that we going to have sex with others or at least hope we will |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Does it matter really if this was tinder ud not even think of his number (previous sexual encounters) here yes it's more open veris are guides that the profile is genuine and no more
Hope this helps
Oh geez that's like that thread about a lady going on a vanilla date and being asked how many men shed been with.
Exactly
If u were that lady what would ur response be
To be honest. Aren't vanilla and fab two different things?? Am I getting mixed up ??
Yes in my humble opinion I think u are veris are to say this person done as they said they would and turned up also they are as described in their bio,the saucy bit is irrelevant after all up spice may be another lady's salt
This is a swing site we joined here knowing that we going to have sex with others or at least hope we will"
Thank you
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By *j47Man
over a year ago
limerick |
"Does it matter really if this was tinder ud not even think of his number (previous sexual encounters) here yes it's more open veris are guides that the profile is genuine and no more
Hope this helps
Oh geez that's like that thread about a lady going on a vanilla date and being asked how many men shed been with.
Exactly
If u were that lady what would ur response be
To be honest. Aren't vanilla and fab two different things?? Am I getting mixed up ??
Yes in my humble opinion I think u are veris are to say this person done as they said they would and turned up also they are as described in their bio,the saucy bit is irrelevant after all up spice may be another lady's salt
This is a swing site we joined here knowing that we going to have sex with others or at least hope we will
Thank you
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Hope it helped and u are now looking at the guy in a more positive light |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Does it matter really if this was tinder ud not even think of his number (previous sexual encounters) here yes it's more open veris are guides that the profile is genuine and no more
Hope this helps
Oh geez that's like that thread about a lady going on a vanilla date and being asked how many men shed been with.
Exactly
If u were that lady what would ur response be
To be honest. Aren't vanilla and fab two different things?? Am I getting mixed up ??
Yes in my humble opinion I think u are veris are to say this person done as they said they would and turned up also they are as described in their bio,the saucy bit is irrelevant after all up spice may be another lady's salt
This is a swing site we joined here knowing that we going to have sex with others or at least hope we will
Thank you
Hope it helped and u are now looking at the guy in a more positive light"
Yes I am knew I could count on youse |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Go with your gut Red. It's OK to feel uncomfortable about meeting someone because of their sexual history. This may be a swing site but we all still have the right of choice here.
I dont judge anyone, I'm absolutely in no position to do so, but sometimes there's just some niggling feeling there when I read verifs or have witnessed some disturbing behaviour. So if I'm uncomfortable at all I just don't meet.
In summary it's your feelings about that one potential meet. |
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"I know this topic has been on before.
But how many verifications are too many??
Or within comfort zone ??
Just wondering. I am on the fence here.
Any advice greatly appreciated.
Thank you. "
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A verification should be just that... to verify a person is genuine!
I've met a few who have verified that I'm genuine! Don't need more veris, nor look for them even though I've been to a few Socials.
Plus if I meet people from FAB that is no one's business but ours.
Some "verifications" show a high level of indiscretion to say the least! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I put very little stealth on veris only to prove the fabber is genuine. They will all be positive obviously, some are way to graphic. Numbers again don't bother me. I trust my own judgement. Everyone has their own preference, and i choose not to show my veris or display my summary, as I uncomfortable with personal reviews to be honest. So anyone that meets me will be because of how they find me, simples |
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"I put very little stealth on veris only to prove the fabber is genuine. They will all be positive obviously, some are way to graphic. Numbers again don't bother me. I trust my own judgement. Everyone has their own preference, and i choose not to show my veris or display my summary, as I uncomfortable with personal reviews to be honest. So anyone that meets me will be because of how they find me, simples "
Well put together Red
Same as |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don't think theres a simple answer to this one.
There could be 500 - of which 498 are from socials. And that, to me, is just fine. In fact I like those as it shows the profile is friendly and mixes well.
On the other hand a man (or woman or couple) could have 25 meets in say 3 months. All play meets and all with graphic veri's. And that would just make me think 'not going there'.
So in one case 500 isn't too many yet 25 is.
This is just my way of thinking"
I actually got a bit of grief on my previous profile. I had 230+ over a four year period. A few from socials, many from parties (which I used to host), some from clubs and yes, a fair chunk from meets.
Apparently unverified single guys are time wasters ... but if you have too many then you get grief...just can't win! |
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"I put very little stealth on veris only to prove the fabber is genuine. They will all be positive obviously, some are way to graphic. Numbers again don't bother me. I trust my own judgement. Everyone has their own preference, and i choose not to show my veris or display my summary, as I uncomfortable with personal reviews to be honest. So anyone that meets me will be because of how they find me, simples "
Like your style a lot sexy lady take them how you find them x |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I put very little stealth on veris only to prove the fabber is genuine. They will all be positive obviously, some are way to graphic. Numbers again don't bother me. I trust my own judgement. Everyone has their own preference, and i choose not to show my veris or display my summary, as I uncomfortable with personal reviews to be honest. So anyone that meets me will be because of how they find me, simples
Well put together Red
Same as "
Ta and not sure I have spotted you on my run yet |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I put very little stealth on veris only to prove the fabber is genuine. They will all be positive obviously, some are way to graphic. Numbers again don't bother me. I trust my own judgement. Everyone has their own preference, and i choose not to show my veris or display my summary, as I uncomfortable with personal reviews to be honest. So anyone that meets me will be because of how they find me, simples
Like your style a lot sexy lady take them how you find them x"
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Racey sang a song about this
Some girls will, some girls won't
Some girls need a lot of Cock and some girls don't
Well, I know I've got the fever but I don't know why
Some say they will and some girls lie
"Haha class! "
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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago
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It's all relative. How do you know that a profile with lesser verifications hasn't a 246 verifications hidden in the background or wasn't on here before and had fucked a half the site or doesn't go regularly to Asia for sex holidays etc etc. ??? The bottom line is the amount of veris doesn't mean anything and rarely does the content. You're best of by listening to your gut feeling, it's the person behind the profile you might be meeting and not his score/verifications. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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You could meet someone on a night out though and not be aware of their sexual history, there's no difference really.
Like I have a few veris, I've only properly played with a third of them. Yet guys will assume reading them that a veri means a fuck  , not the case!
I hate veris, think they've held me back meeting sometimes if I see one from a profile I would consider "hot", I would assume I wouldn't be the guys type... I'm the worst fabber ever  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"You could meet someone on a night out though and not be aware of their sexual history, there's no difference really.
Like I have a few veris, I've only properly played with a third of them. Yet guys will assume reading them that a veri means a fuck , not the case!
I hate veris, think they've held me back meeting sometimes if I see one from a profile I would consider "hot", I would assume I wouldn't be the guys type... I'm the worst fabber ever "
I know what you mean. Met a guy for coffee. He left me a veri suggesting it was more than just sitting at a table having a coffee. |
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I know what you mean. Met a guy for coffee. He left me a veri suggesting it was more than just sitting at a table having a coffee. "
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.... and his loss as he probably won't get to get you again!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I know what you mean. Met a guy for coffee. He left me a veri suggesting it was more than just sitting at a table having a coffee.
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.... and his loss as he probably won't get to get you again!!"
If he'd his cock out under the table probably was |
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I know what you mean. Met a guy for coffee. He left me a veri suggesting it was more than just sitting at a table having a coffee.
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.... and his loss as he probably won't get to get you again!!
If he'd his cock out under the table probably was "
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Oh who would do such a thing?? Surely not males on FAB?? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I know what you mean. Met a guy for coffee. He left me a veri suggesting it was more than just sitting at a table having a coffee.
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.... and his loss as he probably won't get to get you again!!
If he'd his cock out under the table probably was
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Oh who would do such a thing?? Surely not males on FAB??"
Well Sub, I'm sorry to tell you this but it's usually the males who have the cocks I'm still waiting for the gorgeous looking lady with one  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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I know what you mean. Met a guy for coffee. He left me a veri suggesting it was more than just sitting at a table having a coffee.
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.... and his loss as he probably won't get to get you again!!"
Nope he won't. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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I know what you mean. Met a guy for coffee. He left me a veri suggesting it was more than just sitting at a table having a coffee.
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.... and his loss as he probably won't get to get you again!!
If he'd his cock out under the table probably was
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Oh who would do such a thing?? Surely not males on FAB??
Well Sub, I'm sorry to tell you this but it's usually the males who have the cocks I'm still waiting for the gorgeous looking lady with one "
Nearly chocked on the tea reading that |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Why would the number of verifications matter?
This is a swinger website. The idea is to make friends and maybe have sex with them if they float your boat.
Society judges people on how much sex they have. Men get admiration "he's such a swordsman", women get judgement "she's such a slut".
It is hard to move past these ideas. They are deeply ingrained in us. We won't share our verification summary. It only invites judgement or envy or scorn.
As long as we practice safe sex then the heath risks are minimised so it makes no difference to you how many people have shared our bed.
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By (user no longer on site)
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It does anger me that we slut shame men and women on here. We all want the same things. We should celebrate being libertines. Instead we drive people away. |
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I know what you mean. Met a guy for coffee. He left me a veri suggesting it was more than just sitting at a table having a coffee.
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.... and his loss as he probably won't get to get you again!!
If he'd his cock out under the table probably was
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Oh who would do such a thing?? Surely not males on FAB??
Well Sub, I'm sorry to tell you this but it's usually the males who have the cocks I'm still waiting for the gorgeous looking lady with one "
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Patience!! (and that's not her name!!) |
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I know what you mean. Met a guy for coffee. He left me a veri suggesting it was more than just sitting at a table having a coffee.
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.... and his loss as he probably won't get to get you again!!
If he'd his cock out under the table probably was
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Oh who would do such a thing?? Surely not males on FAB??
Well Sub, I'm sorry to tell you this but it's usually the males who have the cocks I'm still waiting for the gorgeous looking lady with one
Nearly chocked on the tea reading that "
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Crikey I'm not going to take hormones just to get a meet!! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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I know what you mean. Met a guy for coffee. He left me a veri suggesting it was more than just sitting at a table having a coffee.
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.... and his loss as he probably won't get to get you again!!
If he'd his cock out under the table probably was
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Oh who would do such a thing?? Surely not males on FAB??
Well Sub, I'm sorry to tell you this but it's usually the males who have the cocks I'm still waiting for the gorgeous looking lady with one
Nearly chocked on the tea reading that
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Crikey I'm not going to take hormones just to get a meet!! "
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"I cringe at the ones that are very graphic. That should be between the person or people you were with. Keep it there. But hey that's just me. "
Have to agree.
There are ways of talking about how wonderful a person is without turning into a porn movie description.
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"I don't think theres a simple answer to this one.
There could be 500 - of which 498 are from socials. And that, to me, is just fine. In fact I like those as it shows the profile is friendly and mixes well.
On the other hand a man (or woman or couple) could have 25 meets in say 3 months. All play meets and all with graphic veri's. And that would just make me think 'not going there'.
So in one case 500 isn't too many yet 25 is.
This is just my way of thinking"
Spot on.
We have loads, but a lot are from socials, plus we help organise a large camping event too, so got a lot from that, however our play veries are maybe only a third of these, plus we have been here for 8 years, so when you factor all that in, our play veries hit rate is quite low compared to some. |
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Sometimes I used look at the profiles of the recent verifications of someone I like, to try a get a feel for the kind of person they like, looks at attitude wise.
To judge whether I have a chance of them liking and repling to me.
This doesn't work very well though. So stopped doing it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Well if someone has been on here 2 months and has 50 odd verifications that say they've had sex with these people then that's too much..well for me anyway but might not bother some people.
There could also be someone on here that has a hundred or more veries but they could of been on here 5 years or so...
Best to ask em out right in the hope they're be upfront and honest about it I guess |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"And...
... what about those that only show one veri, but have shagged half the site? At least those of us who show all our veries are being honest "
From what I see and hear 95 percent of fabbers are not honest about one or other things... |
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"It does anger me that we slut shame men and women on here. We all want the same things. We should celebrate being libertines. Instead we drive people away. "
By far the most sensible post on this thread |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"It does anger me that we slut shame men and women on here. We all want the same things. We should celebrate being libertines. Instead we drive people away.
By far the most sensible post on this thread "
I am starting to believe that too ... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I know site for ages. been on and off.. so when I last time came back some people verified me even when I didnt ask.. and then went few socials a be in few month time I have already 27 verifies...
So by my own experience I will maybe read first few verifies and to others not give attention if they play or social ones or how many person have |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"And...
... what about those that only show one veri, but have shagged half the site? At least those of us who show all our veries are being honest "
I hope you not suggesting that those who do not show veris are not honest |
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"I put very little stealth on veris only to prove the fabber is genuine. They will all be positive obviously, some are way to graphic. Numbers again don't bother me. I trust my own judgement. Everyone has their own preference, and i choose not to show my veris or display my summary, as I uncomfortable with personal reviews to be honest. So anyone that meets me will be because of how they find me, simples
Well put together Red
Same as
Ta and not sure I have spotted you on my run yet "
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I wouldn't of thought so but some stage you shall.I tend to stick to the walking . much slower pace in life & gives you time to enjoy. |
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By *ean0001Man
over a year ago
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While the number wouldnt bother me having veris from certain people would put me off playing with some people.
That probably means i play with much less than i possibly could but its just the way i am.
Its a free choice and you have to set your own rules on what you are looking for. |
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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago
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"While the number wouldnt bother me having veris from certain people would put me off playing with some people.
That probably means i play with much less than i possibly could but its just the way i am.
Its a free choice and you have to set your own rules on what you are looking for. "
really? And why so if I may ask? |
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By *ean0001Man
over a year ago
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Because there are people in here who i know are having bareback sex with others or have attempted to with people that i know.
So when i see them pop up on peoples veris for play dates i make a note on their profile notes so i know not to go there.
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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago
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"Because there are people in here who i know are having bareback sex with others or have attempted to with people that i know.
So when i see them pop up on peoples veris for play dates i make a note on their profile notes so i know not to go there.
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Fair enough, from my own experience I know that there are plenty of bareback chancers on here but doesn't mean though that the person meeting one had bareback sex. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Because there are people in here who i know are having bareback sex with others or have attempted to with people that i know.
So when i see them pop up on peoples veris for play dates i make a note on their profile notes so i know not to go there.
Fair enough, from my own experience I know that there are plenty of bareback chancers on here but doesn't mean though that the person meeting one had bareback sex. "
I had bareback sex onetime but never again had a pain in my back for a week after. |
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By *ean0001Man
over a year ago
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"Because there are people in here who i know are having bareback sex with others or have attempted to with people that i know.
So when i see them pop up on peoples veris for play dates i make a note on their profile notes so i know not to go there.
Fair enough, from my own experience I know that there are plenty of bareback chancers on here but doesn't mean though that the person meeting one had bareback sex. "
I know that they probably haven't but hey you never know. I have seen some wreckless behaviour from both guys and girls in the past so i tend to try and avoid the drama if i can.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Because there are people in here who i know are having bareback sex with others or have attempted to with people that i know.
So when i see them pop up on peoples veris for play dates i make a note on their profile notes so i know not to go there.
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Nods...I'm the same!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Because there are people in here who i know are having bareback sex with others or have attempted to with people that i know.
So when i see them pop up on peoples veris for play dates i make a note on their profile notes so i know not to go there.
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I have a verification from a guy that I didn't realise had a bad reputation got grief about it , can't remove it now so it's hidden , not my fault I didn't know his rep so hate to think because of giving someone a chance I've ruled out other decent guys. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Whatever you are comfortable with yourself I would say. Also you would have to take into account how long they have been on the site. Someone that has been here 5 years would have alot more veris then someone who has been here 1 year for example"
also a lot of ppl go to M&G's so have maybe a lot of veri's just by saying hi .. and dont forget the social meets ... think iv 12 veri's from a night out and 6-7 coffee meets and a few where iv been veri'd twice by the same ppl ..
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Because there are people in here who i know are having bareback sex with others or have attempted to with people that i know.
So when i see them pop up on peoples veris for play dates i make a note on their profile notes so i know not to go there.
Fair enough, from my own experience I know that there are plenty of bareback chancers on here but doesn't mean though that the person meeting one had bareback sex.
I know that they probably haven't but hey you never know. I have seen some wreckless behaviour from both guys and girls in the past so i tend to try and avoid the drama if i can.
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Even if they did bareback tho - if you use a condom surely you're as safe as you can be |
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"Because there are people in here who i know are having bareback sex with others or have attempted to with people that i know.
So when i see them pop up on peoples veris for play dates i make a note on their profile notes so i know not to go there.
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I have a verification from a guy that I didn't realise had a bad reputation got grief about it , can't remove it now so it's hidden , not my fault I didn't know his rep so hate to think because of giving someone a chance I've ruled out other decent guys. "
Did you like him? |
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"Because there are people in here who i know are having bareback sex with others or have attempted to with people that i know.
So when i see them pop up on peoples veris for play dates i make a note on their profile notes so i know not to go there.
T
I have a verification from a guy that I didn't realise had a bad reputation got grief about it , can't remove it now so it's hidden , not my fault I didn't know his rep so hate to think because of giving someone a chance I've ruled out other decent guys.
Did you like him?"
No thought there was something but odd and the stories I've been told since says it all |
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