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Do you think it's cruel to keep a German Sheppard dog in a small closed in backyard? The dog wrecks everything. Would a place with a run be more suitable? |
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"Do you think it's cruel to keep a German Sheppard dog in a small closed in backyard? The dog wrecks everything. Would a place with a run be more suitable?"
Dogs are like kids. They act up when they're unhappy. Big dogs need tons of space. |
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"Do you think it's cruel to keep a German Sheppard dog in a small closed in backyard? The dog wrecks everything. Would a place with a run be more suitable?
Dogs are like kids. They act up when they're unhappy. Big dogs need tons of space. "
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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Gsd is a high drive dog,can be kept in a yard but would needs lots of exercise and not just walks. Frisbee,flirt pole. A bored dog would be very destructive
Although maybe it's like a lot of gsds and is crippled with hip dysplacia and can't walk. The breed is almost ruined in this country from bad breeding |
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"Gsd is a high drive dog,can be kept in a yard but would needs lots of exercise and not just walks. Frisbee,flirt pole. A bored dog would be very destructive
Although maybe it's like a lot of gsds and is crippled with hip dysplacia and can't walk. The breed is almost ruined in this country from bad breeding"
He's young not even a year. Belongs to a relative of mine. I think it's half cruel on the dog. It's not a tiny tiny yard but I'd imagine a dog like him needs tons of space. Also he needs so much watching it's a nuisance. |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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He will be a nuisance thru no fault of his own. It's a breed that needs lots of attention and stimulation. Try convince your relative to adopt him out and do a good home check. They are a popular breed so would be no prob |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"He will be a nuisance thru no fault of his own. It's a breed that needs lots of attention and stimulation. Try convince your relative to adopt him out and do a good home check. They are a popular breed so would be no prob"
Initially he was bought to be used as a guard dog but that never materialised.
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"Do you think it's cruel to keep a German Sheppard dog in a small closed in backyard? The dog wrecks everything. Would a place with a run be more suitable?"
Adopted mine from Dogs trust,,conditions were that they are house dogs,dogs are social animals and need walks at least 40mins perday,they need interaction and actually have the intellect of a toddler,leaving it locked outside in a yard or run is cruel beyond cruel,they're gentle beautiful animals,my kitten kills her and she's so gentle,,it's a sad life that poor dog has and shld be somewhere that stimulates it,,worse thing is if it is taught to be vicious and bites it loses its life..  |
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"Do you think it's cruel to keep a German Sheppard dog in a small closed in backyard? The dog wrecks everything. Would a place with a run be more suitable?
Adopted mine from Dogs trust,,conditions were that they are house dogs,dogs are social animals and need walks at least 40mins perday,they need interaction and actually have the intellect of a toddler,leaving it locked outside in a yard or run is cruel beyond cruel,they're gentle beautiful animals,my kitten kills her and she's so gentle,,it's a sad life that poor dog has and shld be somewhere that stimulates it,,worse thing is if it is taught to be vicious and bites it loses its life.. "
I got my lad from dogs trust, wasn't a GS though, he was a Springer.
Built a run for him out in the garden but never put him in it, he was a pure house dog! They do crave attention and are like having a youngster running around the house going "oooh what's this, what's that, is this mine!?" 
They shouldn't be kept outside, regardless of breed, they need social interaction, they're part of the family!
Mine was one of my best friends! RIP
-Please don't leave them outside- |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Do you think it's cruel to keep a German Sheppard dog in a small closed in backyard? The dog wrecks everything. Would a place with a run be more suitable?
Adopted mine from Dogs trust,,conditions were that they are house dogs,dogs are social animals and need walks at least 40mins perday,they need interaction and actually have the intellect of a toddler,leaving it locked outside in a yard or run is cruel beyond cruel,they're gentle beautiful animals,my kitten kills her and she's so gentle,,it's a sad life that poor dog has and shld be somewhere that stimulates it,,worse thing is if it is taught to be vicious and bites it loses its life..
I got my lad from dogs trust, wasn't a GS though, he was a Springer.
Built a run for him out in the garden but never put him in it, he was a pure house dog! They do crave attention and are like having a youngster running around the house going "oooh what's this, what's that, is this mine!?"
They shouldn't be kept outside, regardless of breed, they need social interaction, they're part of the family!
Mine was one of my best friends! RIP
-Please don't leave them outside-"
U know they say if a person is kind to an animal then they're worth knowing |
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There is no way in hell you could let this dog indoors. He destroys the outside and would absolutley wreck the inside of your house. As far as I know he sleeps outdoors |
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"There is no way in hell you could let this dog indoors. He destroys the outside and would absolutley wreck the inside of your house. As far as I know he sleeps outdoors "
This dog you are talking about is destructful through boredom. Gsd's are energetic and lively animals and need proper exercise. I owned one for almost 14 years, she still walked for an hour every night even at that age. I agree with the poster who suggested rehoming the dog x |
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"There is no way in hell you could let this dog indoors. He destroys the outside and would absolutley wreck the inside of your house. As far as I know he sleeps outdoors
This dog you are talking about is destructful through boredom. Gsd's are energetic and lively animals and need proper exercise. I owned one for almost 14 years, she still walked for an hour every night even at that age. I agree with the poster who suggested rehoming the dog x"
The owners are just simply to busy to give the dog that much exercise. He goes running up the woods now n again I think |
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"There is no way in hell you could let this dog indoors. He destroys the outside and would absolutley wreck the inside of your house. As far as I know he sleeps outdoors
This dog you are talking about is destructful through boredom. Gsd's are energetic and lively animals and need proper exercise. I owned one for almost 14 years, she still walked for an hour every night even at that age. I agree with the poster who suggested rehoming the dog xThe owners are just simply to busy to give the dog that much exercise. He goes running up the woods now n again I think "
I understand. It is often difficult to let go of an animal, unruly or not but it has to be done for the sake and safety of all involved.
My daughter rescued an elderly female bull mastif a while back. The dog was being beaten and tortured in a car yard. It was the last thing I needed tbh but no one wants her so I have had to adjust to thinking dog. I feel that although I'm not the ideal doggy mummy that she gets fed, watered, walked and loved x |
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"There is no way in hell you could let this dog indoors. He destroys the outside and would absolutley wreck the inside of your house. As far as I know he sleeps outdoors
This dog you are talking about is destructful through boredom. Gsd's are energetic and lively animals and need proper exercise. I owned one for almost 14 years, she still walked for an hour every night even at that age. I agree with the poster who suggested rehoming the dog xThe owners are just simply to busy to give the dog that much exercise. He goes running up the woods now n again I think
I understand. It is often difficult to let go of an animal, unruly or not but it has to be done for the sake and safety of all involved.
My daughter rescued an elderly female bull mastif a while back. The dog was being beaten and tortured in a car yard. It was the last thing I needed tbh but no one wants her so I have had to adjust to thinking dog. I feel that although I'm not the ideal doggy mummy that she gets fed, watered, walked and loved x"
so u think they should get rid of dog if not getting 30 to 40 mins exercise a day? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There is no way in hell you could let this dog indoors. He destroys the outside and would absolutley wreck the inside of your house. As far as I know he sleeps outdoors
This dog you are talking about is destructful through boredom. Gsd's are energetic and lively animals and need proper exercise. I owned one for almost 14 years, she still walked for an hour every night even at that age. I agree with the poster who suggested rehoming the dog xThe owners are just simply to busy to give the dog that much exercise. He goes running up the woods now n again I think
I understand. It is often difficult to let go of an animal, unruly or not but it has to be done for the sake and safety of all involved.
My daughter rescued an elderly female bull mastif a while back. The dog was being beaten and tortured in a car yard. It was the last thing I needed tbh but no one wants her so I have had to adjust to thinking dog. I feel that although I'm not the ideal doggy mummy that she gets fed, watered, walked and loved xso u think they should get rid of dog if not getting 30 to 40 mins exercise a day?"
You already pointed out their busy lifestyle and indicated that they haven't much time for the dog who is still only a pup. So yes I believe that the dog would be better rehomed. Owning a dog isn't just about exercise x |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There is no way in hell you could let this dog indoors. He destroys the outside and would absolutley wreck the inside of your house. As far as I know he sleeps outdoors
This dog you are talking about is destructful through boredom. Gsd's are energetic and lively animals and need proper exercise. I owned one for almost 14 years, she still walked for an hour every night even at that age. I agree with the poster who suggested rehoming the dog xThe owners are just simply to busy to give the dog that much exercise. He goes running up the woods now n again I think
I understand. It is often difficult to let go of an animal, unruly or not but it has to be done for the sake and safety of all involved.
My daughter rescued an elderly female bull mastif a while back. The dog was being beaten and tortured in a car yard. It was the last thing I needed tbh but no one wants her so I have had to adjust to thinking dog. I feel that although I'm not the ideal doggy mummy that she gets fed, watered, walked and loved xso u think they should get rid of dog if not getting 30 to 40 mins exercise a day?"
Bottom line is if the dog was exercised everyday and trained all problems wld be solved,, not straight away obviously,it'll take time,but if the dog is let loose to roam and untrained it will be the dog or someone else that'll suffer,besides it's law to keep them muzzled in public.common sense and cop on with a little intellect can solve this problem,also one more point,it's law to report any sort of abuse to an animal if u think there is x |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There is no way in hell you could let this dog indoors. He destroys the outside and would absolutley wreck the inside of your house. As far as I know he sleeps outdoors
This dog you are talking about is destructful through boredom. Gsd's are energetic and lively animals and need proper exercise. I owned one for almost 14 years, she still walked for an hour every night even at that age. I agree with the poster who suggested rehoming the dog xThe owners are just simply to busy to give the dog that much exercise. He goes running up the woods now n again I think
I understand. It is often difficult to let go of an animal, unruly or not but it has to be done for the sake and safety of all involved.
My daughter rescued an elderly female bull mastif a while back. The dog was being beaten and tortured in a car yard. It was the last thing I needed tbh but no one wants her so I have had to adjust to thinking dog. I feel that although I'm not the ideal doggy mummy that she gets fed, watered, walked and loved xso u think they should get rid of dog if not getting 30 to 40 mins exercise a day?
Bottom line is if the dog was exercised everyday and trained all problems wld be solved,, not straight away obviously,it'll take time,but if the dog is let loose to roam and untrained it will be the dog or someone else that'll suffer,besides it's law to keep them muzzled in public.common sense and cop on with a little intellect can solve this problem,also one more point,it's law to report any sort of abuse to an animal if u think there is x"
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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He's a big dog living in a smallish yard. Not a year yet so prob nor fully grown. I don't know the ins and outs of rules with dogs. I'm just saying I wonder would he be better off in a bigger area. It's grand making a house dog from a dog his size if u can have him in alot since u first got him but work and commitments play a part in people not been around. I wouldn't call it cruelty. The dog is petted and fed/watered. I'm just questioning the size of the area |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"He's a big dog living in a smallish yard. Not a year yet so prob nor fully grown. I don't know the ins and outs of rules with dogs. I'm just saying I wonder would he be better off in a bigger area. It's grand making a house dog from a dog his size if u can have him in alot since u first got him but work and commitments play a part in people not been around. I wouldn't call it cruelty. The dog is petted and fed/watered. I'm just questioning the size of the area "
Your original question was 'is it cruel?' but then you say it's not cruelty leaving the dog in a small yard....cruelty can be anything from neglect to abuse so if you have to ask the question therein lies your answer  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"He's a big dog living in a smallish yard. Not a year yet so prob nor fully grown. I don't know the ins and outs of rules with dogs. I'm just saying I wonder would he be better off in a bigger area. It's grand making a house dog from a dog his size if u can have him in alot since u first got him but work and commitments play a part in people not been around. I wouldn't call it cruelty. The dog is petted and fed/watered. I'm just questioning the size of the area
Your original question was 'is it cruel?' but then you say it's not cruelty leaving the dog in a small yard....cruelty can be anything from neglect to abuse so if you have to ask the question therein lies your answer "
I'm asking the question is it wrong having him in a smallish yard?one person said cruelty should be reported. I class cruelty as not feeding an animal, beating them, not giving them water. The dog is walked( prob not enough with time commitnents) but that applies to everyone in a normal everyday setting. My initial question was about the yard size. As I also said he was bought to use and be trained as security but they fell in love with him and that's now history |
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"Yes. Pets should be inside with their family. If someone views their pet as a nuisance then they don't deserve them. "
my mother n father have a dog and my mother goes nuts wgen she cleans floors etc n dog comes in, paw marks everywhere and shedding hair. She said you can't keep the house clean with him.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"They may have got it as a guard dog & not a pet...the initial reason he was bought was as a guard dog but that's now gone out the window "
How? If it's not allowed in the house as a pet then what else is it? |
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"They may have got it as a guard dog & not a pet...the initial reason he was bought was as a guard dog but that's now gone out the window
How? If it's not allowed in the house as a pet then what else is it? "
it's not allowed in the house permanently because the dog would wreck it. He has destroyed things outdoors already and to use a good eg, he's like a hyper kid |
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"They may have got it as a guard dog & not a pet...the initial reason he was bought was as a guard dog but that's now gone out the window
How? If it's not allowed in the house as a pet then what else is it? it's not allowed in the house permanently because the dog would wreck it. He has destroyed things outdoors already and to use a good eg, he's like a hyper kid "
It may be too late to train it as a house dog now, I'd suggest he find it a new home with someone who has time for it. |
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"Yes. Pets should be inside with their family. If someone views their pet as a nuisance then they don't deserve them. my mother n father have a dog and my mother goes nuts wgen she cleans floors etc n dog comes in, paw marks everywhere and shedding hair. She said you can't keep the house clean with him. "
I stand by what I said. There's a simple solution. |
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"They may have got it as a guard dog & not a pet...the initial reason he was bought was as a guard dog but that's now gone out the window
How? If it's not allowed in the house as a pet then what else is it?
it's not allowed in the house permanently because the dog would wreck it. He has destroyed things outdoors already and to use a good eg, he's like a hyper kid "
Probably due to boredom. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Yes. Pets should be inside with their family. If someone views their pet as a nuisance then they don't deserve them. my mother n father have a dog and my mother goes nuts wgen she cleans floors etc n dog comes in, paw marks everywhere and shedding hair. She said you can't keep the house clean with him.
I stand by what I said. There's a simple solution. "
which is? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"They may have got it as a guard dog & not a pet...the initial reason he was bought was as a guard dog but that's now gone out the window
How? If it's not allowed in the house as a pet then what else is it?
it's not allowed in the house permanently because the dog would wreck it. He has destroyed things outdoors already and to use a good eg, he's like a hyper kid
Probably due to boredom. "
absolutley. He's on his own 4 large amounts of time. |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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A gsd is a working dog. 40 mins walk nothing for him. My bichon does an hour. My american bulldog is a working dog and he needs 2 good hours of various high energy exercise. That's climbing,flirt pole,frisbee.
The only reason your dog is destructive is he's bored.
Keeping a dog in an outside kennel and small yard wouldn't be reportable cruelty but it's no way to keep a dog. Seeing as this person is a relative do your best to persuade them to give him Tia loving home |
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Lots of good info & suggestions here already. Just because they fell in love with him doesn't mean he can't be a good guard dog, being part of the family will actually make him a better guard dog because he will protect them as well as the property or as he sees it, his family & territory. He is still young enough to start training, doesn't have to be fancy, just basic obedience. Shepperds are highly intelligent, the dumbest Shepperd could still be smarter than a lot of humans! He will basically be a puppy until he is about 2 years, then he will really shine through as a guard dog but now is the time to get training him so that when he reaches maturity he knows his place in the pecking order & what the rules are. Yes he is destructive now, but that is down to boredom, frustration & being a youngster who doesn't know what the rules are. Keeping him outside while they are at work or in bed is fine, as long as he has a warm dry place to sleep. It's highly possible that when he matures he will want to be outside most of the time. He does need to be inside with them when they are around, dogs are social creatures and want company as much as humans do. The size of the yard isn't as important as the amount of stimulation, excersise & attention that he gets. |
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"Lots of good info & suggestions here already. Just because they fell in love with him doesn't mean he can't be a good guard dog, being part of the family will actually make him a better guard dog because he will protect them as well as the property or as he sees it, his family & territory. He is still young enough to start training, doesn't have to be fancy, just basic obedience. Shepperds are highly intelligent, the dumbest Shepperd could still be smarter than a lot of humans! He will basically be a puppy until he is about 2 years, then he will really shine through as a guard dog but now is the time to get training him so that when he reaches maturity he knows his place in the pecking order & what the rules are. Yes he is destructive now, but that is down to boredom, frustration & being a youngster who doesn't know what the rules are. Keeping him outside while they are at work or in bed is fine, as long as he has a warm dry place to sleep. It's highly possible that when he matures he will want to be outside most of the time. He does need to be inside with them when they are around, dogs are social creatures and want company as much as humans do. The size of the yard isn't as important as the amount of stimulation, excersise & attention that he gets."
It doesn't take long to train a gsd. And they don't have to be trained as a guard dog when you have them as a pet. Even the dopiest of one's know the difference between friend or foe. I had one as a family pet for over 14 years who loved kids playing with him. The most placid dog buy would eat someone alive if they tried to break in. The only cruelty is leaving such a beautiful dog untrained to a point where it becomes destructive and has to be destroyed. |
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