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By *ongdongsilver99 OP   Man  over a year ago

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Well let's see if we can have some reasoned discussion

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By *isdirtygirlWoman  over a year ago

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Youre a glutton for punishment

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By *ancyachatnowMan  over a year ago

Naas

Seriously

Those this thread really need a part two

Life is too short to be so sensitive

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Well your issue seems to be peoples choices, surely you should just not mail these profiles that state they don't want single guys contacting them

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

To be fair the OP was absent for the majority of the last part of it. Many got their tuppence worth on there. I'm sure he'd like the opportunity to discuss further

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By *isdirtygirlWoman  over a year ago

Dublin


"Well your issue seems to be peoples choices, surely you should just not mail these profiles that state they don't want single guys contacting them"

Its idleness on the senders part...too quick to mail without reading the profiles first. Happens all the time Jasper and people have on their status asking folk to read the profile first.

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By *ohn MingoMan  over a year ago

Dublin


"Well let's see if we can have some reasoned discussion "

That depends on if you're willing to discuss.

If yes, then look at my responses on the last thread, and come back to me.

If no, then peace out.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

YAWN!

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By *ongdongsilver99 OP   Man  over a year ago

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The extracts I quoted previously are from couples profiles ....they are not replies to me....I just passed them by. But the point is the tone of such profiles suggests that single guys are just shit on their shoe !

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well your issue seems to be peoples choices, surely you should just not mail these profiles that state they don't want single guys contacting them

Its idleness on the senders part...too quick to mail without reading the profiles first. Happens all the time Jasper and people have on their status asking folk to read the profile first."

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By *ongdongsilver99 OP   Man  over a year ago

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Sorry if we are boring u candy. ..u go have a sleep

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The extracts I quoted previously are from couples profiles ....they are not replies to me....I just passed them by. But the point is the tone of such profiles suggests that single guys are just shit on their shoe !"

No it's that they just get fed up with all the mails they get, if people would take time to read a profile and respect the profile user then this wouldn't be an issue..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"YAWN!"

Spending every waking moment of your life on Fab Forums will have that effect on you

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By *ongdongsilver99 OP   Man  over a year ago

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jasper I didn't pm these couples.....the text is on their profiles

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By *ohn MingoMan  over a year ago

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"The extracts I quoted previously are from couples profiles ....they are not replies to me....I just passed them by. But the point is the tone of such profiles suggests that single guys are just shit on their shoe !"

and why do you think that is?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm not speaking about you, I'm giving a reason as to why these are on profiles...

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By *isdirtygirlWoman  over a year ago

Dublin


"The extracts I quoted previously are from couples profiles ....they are not replies to me....I just passed them by. But the point is the tone of such profiles suggests that single guys are just shit on their shoe !"

There are folk here who dont believe guys are just shit on their shoe like me and other women and couples.

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By *ongdongsilver99 OP   Man  over a year ago

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What's ur point mingo. ...are u condoning such text on profiles ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Youre a glutton for punishment "

I'm a glutton for your soapy boobies!! You should post more soapy pics.

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By *ongdongsilver99 OP   Man  over a year ago

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Dirtygirl. ...u are in the minority on here

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What's ur point mingo. ...are u condoning such text on profiles ?"

People are free to put whatever the like on their profile, if you don't like it dont look at it...I don't understand why you have such an issue with this...

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By *ongdongsilver99 OP   Man  over a year ago

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And yes I like ur soapy boobies too

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By *ohn MingoMan  over a year ago

Dublin


"What's ur point mingo. ...are u condoning such text on profiles ?"

I'm just asking a question, humour me.

Why, do you think, that type of text is on profiles?

I'm seeking your thoughts and opinions.

you wanted a discussion...so discuss.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The extracts I quoted previously are from couples profiles ....they are not replies to me....I just passed them by. But the point is the tone of such profiles suggests that single guys are just shit on their shoe !

There are folk here who dont believe guys are just shit on their shoe like me and other women and couples. "

Exactly miss dirty. But in fairness if people in general read profiles properly it would surely cut down on the animosity and moaning about animosity on the threads

Mrs B

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The extracts I quoted previously are from couples profiles ....they are not replies to me....I just passed them by. But the point is the tone of such profiles suggests that single guys are just shit on their shoe !

There are folk here who dont believe guys are just shit on their shoe like me and other women and couples.

Exactly miss dirty. But in fairness if people in general read profiles properly it would surely cut down on the animosity and moaning about animosity on the threads

Mrs B "

That made sense in my head

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By *ongdongsilver99 OP   Man  over a year ago

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Fine jasper....I guess if u don't understand why this type of profile is an issue...then there isn't really any point is discuss with u.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Fine jasper....I guess if u don't understand why this type of profile is an issue...then there isn't really any point is discuss with u."

Eh surely the whole point of discussing it is to help me understand...but again you go and deflect questions and ignore what you wanted to discuss!!

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By *ongdongsilver99 OP   Man  over a year ago

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Mungo....perhaps it's because these people do believe single guys are shit on their shoes.....and they have sense of superiority ? ...discuss

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The extracts I quoted previously are from couples profiles ....they are not replies to me....I just passed them by. But the point is the tone of such profiles suggests that single guys are just shit on their shoe !"

Can't understand why these profiles don't just use the filters at their disposal.

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By *isdirtygirlWoman  over a year ago

Dublin


"Dirtygirl. ...u are in the minority on here"

I doubt that but in all honesty if you come across a profile that appears rude to you in the context,why would it interest you to want to mail them? Youre entitled to state what your preferences are in whatever way you wish. The same applies to others eve n if you dont agree with how it comes across,rude or not.

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By *ohn MingoMan  over a year ago

Dublin


"Fine jasper....I guess if u don't understand why this type of profile is an issue...then there isn't really any point is discuss with u."

....and what is the fundamental reason why profile text such as that has become an issue?

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By *ongdongsilver99 OP   Man  over a year ago

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By *icketyupWoman  over a year ago

dublin

Personally I think you need to look at fab in the context of real life situations, are people in general treated badly in everyday life? Yes so why would it be different on fab. And I definitely don't believe that it's just men treated this way. I treat others how I want to be treated and will always send a polite in not interested. But yes I do have that I'm not looking to meet men on my profile, am I not allowed to have preferences or be on here for my own reasons? Or am I just here to please others. Even though I have filters I still get mails from men because I have replied to them previously.

I think maybe looking at it from other people's perspectives as to why this is on their profile might be a good idea and try not to take it personally, and just respect that everyone has preferences. Treat others how you want to be treated is my motto, and part of that is respecting people have preferences!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


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Well that just answers everything really

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By *isdirtygirlWoman  over a year ago

Dublin


"The extracts I quoted previously are from couples profiles ....they are not replies to me....I just passed them by. But the point is the tone of such profiles suggests that single guys are just shit on their shoe !

There are folk here who dont believe guys are just shit on their shoe like me and other women and couples.

Exactly miss dirty. But in fairness if people in general read profiles properly it would surely cut down on the animosity and moaning about animosity on the threads

Mrs B

That made sense in my head "

I got ya

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By *ohn MingoMan  over a year ago

Dublin


"Mungo....perhaps it's because these people do believe single guys are shit on their shoes.....and they have sense of superiority ? ...discuss"

I'd say those kind of profiles are in the minority.

maybe most of them are just sick of being harassed by guys, when that's not what they're looking for.

maybe they don't know how to use filters.

maybe they're sick of abuse.

while there are better ways of expressing it, their preferences are to be respected.

all you can do is be the exception. be the one they reach out to when they say "single guys, if we want you we'll find you."

it's not fucking rocket science man, c'mon.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Personally I think you need to look at fab in the context of real life situations, are people in general treated badly in everyday life? Yes so why would it be different on fab. And I definitely don't believe that it's just men treated this way. I treat others how I want to be treated and will always send a polite in not interested. But yes I do have that I'm not looking to meet men on my profile, am I not allowed to have preferences or be on here for my own reasons? Or am I just here to please others. Even though I have filters I still get mails from men because I have replied to them previously.

I think maybe looking at it from other people's perspectives as to why this is on their profile might be a good idea and try not to take it personally, and just respect that everyone has preferences. Treat others how you want to be treated is my motto, and part of that is respecting people have preferences!!"

You don't appear to have guys filtered out though?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Personally I think you need to look at fab in the context of real life situations, are people in general treated badly in everyday life? Yes so why would it be different on fab. And I definitely don't believe that it's just men treated this way. I treat others how I want to be treated and will always send a polite in not interested. But yes I do have that I'm not looking to meet men on my profile, am I not allowed to have preferences or be on here for my own reasons? Or am I just here to please others. Even though I have filters I still get mails from men because I have replied to them previously.

I think maybe looking at it from other people's perspectives as to why this is on their profile might be a good idea and try not to take it personally, and just respect that everyone has preferences. Treat others how you want to be treated is my motto, and part of that is respecting people have preferences!!

You don't appear to have guys filtered out though? "

Oh now you do

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By *icketyupWoman  over a year ago

dublin


"Personally I think you need to look at fab in the context of real life situations, are people in general treated badly in everyday life? Yes so why would it be different on fab. And I definitely don't believe that it's just men treated this way. I treat others how I want to be treated and will always send a polite in not interested. But yes I do have that I'm not looking to meet men on my profile, am I not allowed to have preferences or be on here for my own reasons? Or am I just here to please others. Even though I have filters I still get mails from men because I have replied to them previously.

I think maybe looking at it from other people's perspectives as to why this is on their profile might be a good idea and try not to take it personally, and just respect that everyone has preferences. Treat others how you want to be treated is my motto, and part of that is respecting people have preferences!!

You don't appear to have guys filtered out though? "

My filters change from time to time but that's not the point of what I've said. I have replied to all mails previously whether it be to say no thanks or otherwise, anyone who has mailed me previously gets through them anyway.

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By *ongdongsilver99 OP   Man  over a year ago

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So _icketyup jasper and mungo. ...u all think it's appropriate to have the following on ur profile 'any fuck8ng single guys who can read.'

... fair enough

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

As regards the lads filtered out jargon...we are swingers many years,the other site admittedly more so.we like many have had tons of friends some who split up,are now singles here...still our friends though,they know we will never play with them but if we block all singles there lost to us and on top of that a lot are party organisers which many couples like to attend.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So _icketyup jasper and mungo. ...u all think it's appropriate to have the following on ur profile 'any fuck8ng single guys who can read.'

... fair enough "

Well you can imagine the amount of single guys that have messaged for them to have to put that up!! Do you think it's appropriate for people to mail constantly without reading a profile? Look at our profile, pretty plain to see what we are looking for, do ya think that stops the messages from single guys?

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By *icketyupWoman  over a year ago

dublin


"So _icketyup jasper and mungo. ...u all think it's appropriate to have the following on ur profile 'any fuck8ng single guys who can read.'

... fair enough "

Did I say that or does it say that on my profile? People can write whatever they like on their profile that's their prerogative. I do think people get frustrated with mails from any gender that they don't want to meet and it's their choice whether they have filters or not but it's also their choice how they deal with it. At the end of the day if someone has something that offends you on their profile they're probably not the type of people you want to meet anyway so it helps you to filter out who you do and don't want to meet

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By *ohn MingoMan  over a year ago

Dublin


"So _icketyup jasper and mungo. ...u all think it's appropriate to have the following on ur profile 'any fuck8ng single guys who can read.'

... fair enough "

That's the second time you've misspelled my name. thats ok, U is beside I on the keyboard. any more times and i'll start to think it's deliberate.

appropriate? not really.

anything you can do about it? not much bar sucking it up and moving on....

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By *ongdongsilver99 OP   Man  over a year ago

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Yeah jasper...that about sums up u

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By *ongdongsilver99 OP   Man  over a year ago

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Very sorry mungo....joke !

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By *ohn MingoMan  over a year ago

Dublin


"As regards the lads filtered out jargon...we are swingers many years,the other site admittedly more so.we like many have had tons of friends some who split up,are now singles here...still our friends though,they know we will never play with them but if we block all singles there lost to us and on top of that a lot are party organisers which many couples like to attend."

May I ask your opinion of single men in the swinging world?

be good for the OP to get a couple's perspective who state they dont want single men, but arent rude about it on their profile.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yeah jasper...that about sums up u"

Our profile is for our preferences, we are looking for certain things and where's the harm in us stating what we do and don't want, it saves everyone time, I've read profiles that say no bi guys, no guys under 6ft, does it upset me ? Noooo....also your inability to hold a discussion really sums you up

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By *ohn MingoMan  over a year ago

Dublin


"Yeah jasper...that about sums up u

Our profile is for our preferences, we are looking for certain things and where's the harm in us stating what we do and don't want, it saves everyone time, I've read profiles that say no bi guys, no guys under 6ft, does it upset me ? Noooo....also your inability to hold a discussion really sums you up"

question for you, how would you feel about a guy messaging you saying "i don't feel i fit in the categories fab sets out. i'm not bi, but hetexible" ?

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By *ongdongsilver99 OP   Man  over a year ago

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Thanks jasper...all noted

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Ok we will try,we regard ourselves as couples only...if being honest a lot of us around years remember back to the other site a long time ago when it was mainly couples.for us it was fantastic,times have changed...first to admit that,but I think jasper has hit every point.all we expect is what we look for..during these 2 threads we have got 4 winks,1 message and 1 friend request from single males.thats average as I'm sure jasper will agree.no qualms with single males as long as we're let be...surely any logical thinking person can understand Jaspers frustration and argument?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yeah jasper...that about sums up u

Our profile is for our preferences, we are looking for certain things and where's the harm in us stating what we do and don't want, it saves everyone time, I've read profiles that say no bi guys, no guys under 6ft, does it upset me ? Noooo....also your inability to hold a discussion really sums you up

question for you, how would you feel about a guy messaging you saying "i don't feel i fit in the categories fab sets out. i'm not bi, but hetexible" ?"

Hetexible??? No idea what that is, but we look for someone bi experienced and comfortable with it, lots of bi curious message looking to try it out, which I find a bit insulting, its as if I'd be there dirty little secret and there's always the chance that they won't have a clue what theyre doing

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By *ongdongsilver99 OP   Man  over a year ago

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Yeah dirtygirl....i get all that...honestly i do....but why be rude about it in ur profile (not u personally ) and why tar all single men with same brush.....it's not necessary.

I'm not offended by such profiles.....but that does stop me challenging people with us profiles.

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By *ohn MingoMan  over a year ago

Dublin


"Ok we will try,we regard ourselves as couples only...if being honest a lot of us around years remember back to the other site a long time ago when it was mainly couples.for us it was fantastic,times have changed...first to admit that,but I think jasper has hit every point.all we expect is what we look for..during these 2 threads we have got 4 winks,1 message and 1 friend request from single males.thats average as I'm sure jasper will agree.no qualms with single males as long as we're let be...surely any logical thinking person can understand Jaspers frustration and argument?"

interesting answer.

I was part of a couple, so I know where you're coming from. i would see winking etc to a profile like yours a waste of time. ( I do read profiles, sometimes)

a further question...how do you see play partners? as in someone who may not be going out with each other but team up to attend parties or have other meets? does a single guy stop being a single guy as soon as he brings a woman with him?

sorry if it seems like an interrogation but it's something i've been pondering for a while, and you seem like you'd give an honest answer.

same to jasper too, if they feel like chiming in....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Honest answer...not our thing...but everyone to their own,first to admit we might of done it unbeknownst to ourselves,I mean you've been to these parties ,but we do understand it,and when you weigh it up against the amount of unhappy couples in swing desperate for something else well it's easily the same and understandable.so I suppose nothing's perfect in this world and if you can find a loop hole exploit it

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By *ohn MingoMan  over a year ago

Dublin


"Yeah jasper...that about sums up u

Our profile is for our preferences, we are looking for certain things and where's the harm in us stating what we do and don't want, it saves everyone time, I've read profiles that say no bi guys, no guys under 6ft, does it upset me ? Noooo....also your inability to hold a discussion really sums you up

question for you, how would you feel about a guy messaging you saying "i don't feel i fit in the categories fab sets out. i'm not bi, but hetexible" ?

Hetexible??? No idea what that is, but we look for someone bi experienced and comfortable with it, lots of bi curious message looking to try it out, which I find a bit insulting, its as if I'd be there dirty little secret and there's always the chance that they won't have a clue what theyre doing "

hmm i dunno why the site put a smiley in "hetexible" it's as if it doesnt like the word...

I don't consider myself bi. i'm flexible in the right situation and company, and have limits. so i don't think it's truthful to put bi, or curious on my profile.

I've tried it, and i know what i like and don't like. so i'm no longer curious.

I also don't seek regular sex or relationships with men, so i don't identify as bisexual.

also, I do believe that a lot of people don't think bi men can play straight f the situation calls for it, and won't entertain play with bi men, which I think is unfair.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok we will try,we regard ourselves as couples only...if being honest a lot of us around years remember back to the other site a long time ago when it was mainly couples.for us it was fantastic,times have changed...first to admit that,but I think jasper has hit every point.all we expect is what we look for..during these 2 threads we have got 4 winks,1 message and 1 friend request from single males.thats average as I'm sure jasper will agree.no qualms with single males as long as we're let be...surely any logical thinking person can understand Jaspers frustration and argument?

interesting answer.

I was part of a couple, so I know where you're coming from. i would see winking etc to a profile like yours a waste of time. ( I do read profiles, sometimes)

a further question...how do you see play partners? as in someone who may not be going out with each other but team up to attend parties or have other meets? does a single guy stop being a single guy as soon as he brings a woman with him?

sorry if it seems like an interrogation but it's something i've been pondering for a while, and you seem like you'd give an honest answer.

same to jasper too, if they feel like chiming in...."

I suppose the difference with play partners is that it would be a different thrill then an actual couple, Ie part of the arousal is being with someone else's partner don't know if that thrill would be there with a play cpl, we haven't played with a non cpl so to speak, so can't speak from experience,

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yeah jasper...that about sums up u

Our profile is for our preferences, we are looking for certain things and where's the harm in us stating what we do and don't want, it saves everyone time, I've read profiles that say no bi guys, no guys under 6ft, does it upset me ? Noooo....also your inability to hold a discussion really sums you up

question for you, how would you feel about a guy messaging you saying "i don't feel i fit in the categories fab sets out. i'm not bi, but hetexible" ?

Hetexible??? No idea what that is, but we look for someone bi experienced and comfortable with it, lots of bi curious message looking to try it out, which I find a bit insulting, its as if I'd be there dirty little secret and there's always the chance that they won't have a clue what theyre doing

hmm i dunno why the site put a smiley in "hetexible" it's as if it doesnt like the word...

I don't consider myself bi. i'm flexible in the right situation and company, and have limits. so i don't think it's truthful to put bi, or curious on my profile.

I've tried it, and i know what i like and don't like. so i'm no longer curious.

I also don't seek regular sex or relationships with men, so i don't identify as bisexual.

also, I do believe that a lot of people don't think bi men can play straight f the situation calls for it, and won't entertain play with bi men, which I think is unfair. "

Yep it's unfair but it's peoples choice, a lot of people think that just because your bi that you will automatically want to jump on a cock the second ya see it! Which is ridiculous....

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By *ohn MingoMan  over a year ago

Dublin


"Honest answer...not our thing...but everyone to their own,first to admit we might of done it unbeknownst to ourselves,I mean you've been to these parties ,but we do understand it,and when you weigh it up against the amount of unhappy couples in swing desperate for something else well it's easily the same and understandable.so I suppose nothing's perfect in this world and if you can find a loop hole exploit it "

I kinda see what you mean....even if i'm not sure if i agree with it.

so, you'd not be impressed if you played with a "couple" at a party and then found out they'd only teamed up to go to it? not saying they're hiding it from you, it just didn't come up you're saying that unless a guy is married/in a relationship with a play partner he's always a single guy....even if in that instance he's in a "couple" for the night?

for me that wouldn't matter in the moment, when we're all having fun.

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By *ohn MingoMan  over a year ago

Dublin


"Ok we will try,we regard ourselves as couples only...if being honest a lot of us around years remember back to the other site a long time ago when it was mainly couples.for us it was fantastic,times have changed...first to admit that,but I think jasper has hit every point.all we expect is what we look for..during these 2 threads we have got 4 winks,1 message and 1 friend request from single males.thats average as I'm sure jasper will agree.no qualms with single males as long as we're let be...surely any logical thinking person can understand Jaspers frustration and argument?

interesting answer.

I was part of a couple, so I know where you're coming from. i would see winking etc to a profile like yours a waste of time. ( I do read profiles, sometimes)

a further question...how do you see play partners? as in someone who may not be going out with each other but team up to attend parties or have other meets? does a single guy stop being a single guy as soon as he brings a woman with him?

sorry if it seems like an interrogation but it's something i've been pondering for a while, and you seem like you'd give an honest answer.

same to jasper too, if they feel like chiming in....

I suppose the difference with play partners is that it would be a different thrill then an actual couple, Ie part of the arousal is being with someone else's partner don't know if that thrill would be there with a play cpl, we haven't played with a non cpl so to speak, so can't speak from experience, "

thats a very good point. thank you.

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By *ecretgamesMan  over a year ago

the moon


"Youre a glutton for punishment "

So am I ... Just depends on if your dishing it out lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The extracts I quoted previously are from couples profiles ....they are not replies to me....I just passed them by. But the point is the tone of such profiles suggests that single guys are just shit on their shoe !"

Maybe they are rude, maybe they have poor communication skills, maybe they have a sense of superiority etc.

My advice would be to ignore ranty, negative profiles. They're not really the type of people you'd want to meet anyway I'm sure.

In my experience it's not just single males who ignore preferences and mail anyway

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Well of course you won't agree..your a single,wouldn't expect you to..(you know I'm not being rude or disingenuous to you),its as simple as a preference like everything else in swing to us...

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By *ohn MingoMan  over a year ago

Dublin


"The extracts I quoted previously are from couples profiles ....they are not replies to me....I just passed them by. But the point is the tone of such profiles suggests that single guys are just shit on their shoe !

Maybe they are rude, maybe they have poor communication skills, maybe they have a sense of superiority etc.

My advice would be to ignore ranty, negative profiles. They're not really the type of people you'd want to meet anyway I'm sure.

In my experience it's not just single males who ignore preferences and mail anyway "

I wish i could ignore your preferences cos you deffo fit into some of mine!

ok shameless flirting over....

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By *ohn MingoMan  over a year ago

Dublin


"Well of course you won't agree..your a single,wouldn't expect you to..(you know I'm not being rude or disingenuous to you),its as simple as a preference like everything else in swing to us..."

yes, i know you're not being rude. all good!

but to me in the swing world, a couple is a couple. be it married, bf/gf or teaming up to be a double threat

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Want a good laugh...got 2 more winks from single males while writing that,feckers don't read forums??,Mingo...you know what to do...get that play partner the ring,you'll be sorted

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By *etmebeurfantasyWoman  over a year ago

My town

I've seen this before have I

Again is it worth a read

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The extracts I quoted previously are from couples profiles ....they are not replies to me....I just passed them by. But the point is the tone of such profiles suggests that single guys are just shit on their shoe !

Maybe they are rude, maybe they have poor communication skills, maybe they have a sense of superiority etc.

My advice would be to ignore ranty, negative profiles. They're not really the type of people you'd want to meet anyway I'm sure.

In my experience it's not just single males who ignore preferences and mail anyway

I wish i could ignore your preferences cos you deffo fit into some of mine!

ok shameless flirting over...."

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok we will try,we regard ourselves as couples only...if being honest a lot of us around years remember back to the other site a long time ago when it was mainly couples.for us it was fantastic,times have changed...first to admit that,but I think jasper has hit every point.all we expect is what we look for..during these 2 threads we have got 4 winks,1 message and 1 friend request from single males.thats average as I'm sure jasper will agree.no qualms with single males as long as we're let be...surely any logical thinking person can understand Jaspers frustration and argument?

interesting answer.

I was part of a couple, so I know where you're coming from. i would see winking etc to a profile like yours a waste of time. ( I do read profiles, sometimes)

a further question...how do you see play partners? as in someone who may not be going out with each other but team up to attend parties or have other meets? does a single guy stop being a single guy as soon as he brings a woman with him?

sorry if it seems like an interrogation but it's something i've been pondering for a while, and you seem like you'd give an honest answer.

same to jasper too, if they feel like chiming in....

I suppose the difference with play partners is that it would be a different thrill then an actual couple, Ie part of the arousal is being with someone else's partner don't know if that thrill would be there with a play cpl, we haven't played with a non cpl so to speak, so can't speak from experience, "

I'd agree with this.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I do fine with reading peoples profiles but I can never pass the aptitude test

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By *ohn MingoMan  over a year ago

Dublin


"Want a good laugh...got 2 more winks from single males while writing that,feckers don't read forums??,Mingo...you know what to do...get that play partner the ring,you'll be sorted "

She already is. she's on fab. she's just a silent partner.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok we will try,we regard ourselves as couples only...if being honest a lot of us around years remember back to the other site a long time ago when it was mainly couples.for us it was fantastic,times have changed...first to admit that,but I think jasper has hit every point.all we expect is what we look for..during these 2 threads we have got 4 winks,1 message and 1 friend request from single males.thats average as I'm sure jasper will agree.no qualms with single males as long as we're let be...surely any logical thinking person can understand Jaspers frustration and argument?

interesting answer.

I was part of a couple, so I know where you're coming from. i would see winking etc to a profile like yours a waste of time. ( I do read profiles, sometimes)

a further question...how do you see play partners? as in someone who may not be going out with each other but team up to attend parties or have other meets? does a single guy stop being a single guy as soon as he brings a woman with him?

sorry if it seems like an interrogation but it's something i've been pondering for a while, and you seem like you'd give an honest answer.

same to jasper too, if they feel like chiming in....

I suppose the difference with play partners is that it would be a different thrill then an actual couple, Ie part of the arousal is being with someone else's partner don't know if that thrill would be there with a play cpl, we haven't played with a non cpl so to speak, so can't speak from experience,

I'd agree with this. "

I can identify with this too. We have met a play couple.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I've seen this before have I

Again is it worth a read "

This time yes it is Letme

Some good convos going on.

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By *longshottMan  over a year ago

Limerick

Anyone will only be as badly treated as they allow themselves be is my view on it.

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By *ierycrackWoman  over a year ago

SOMEWHERE ELUSIVE........AND HOT!!!

Ditto

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By *j47Man  over a year ago

limerick

A flower is a flower as long as it grows where u want it to, a is also a flower but grows where u don't want it to grow.

There are cpls on here who despise anyone not in a cpl being on a swing site however there's also cpls that enjoy those same singles as it gives them variety of choice to fulfill fantasy they have. There are singles that only meet singles and singles that seek out cpls,swinging originated on American army bases where married cpls met for nights at each others places to add excitement to their otherwise mundane life's since then it has moved on to include fantasy which are as wide and varied as the flowers in a meadow. Some flowers are overpowering and take up lots of space in that meadow and become s to others and are treated like wise by the purists amongst us others flourish and stand out by not taking notice of the wacker and using the meadow to flourish and get on along side the puriest by not incrouching on their growing space. Every meadow needs manure to help it to flourish may that be flowers that are seasonal and die and rot to regrow next season or horse shit that is spread to strengthen those hardy annals that last the whole year round.

The choice here is to decide are u a hardy annual or a seasonal blossom it's up to u to decide how u flourish if u see a flower that looks like poison ivy u avoid it for the roses.theres enough room in the meadow for all the flowers u just need to find the ones u want to pick and leave the s

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By *ohn MingoMan  over a year ago

Dublin

Dude, that's deep.

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By *j47Man  over a year ago

limerick


"Dude, that's deep. "

That's to much time on my hands but u get the drift

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By *llen n SebbCouple  over a year ago

Walkinstown


"A flower is a flower as long as it grows where u want it to, a is also a flower but grows where u don't want it to grow.

There are cpls on here who despise anyone not in a cpl being on a swing site however there's also cpls that enjoy those same singles as it gives them variety of choice to fulfill fantasy they have. There are singles that only meet singles and singles that seek out cpls,swinging originated on American army bases where married cpls met for nights at each others places to add excitement to their otherwise mundane life's since then it has moved on to include fantasy which are as wide and varied as the flowers in a meadow. Some flowers are overpowering and take up lots of space in that meadow and become s to others and are treated like wise by the purists amongst us others flourish and stand out by not taking notice of the wacker and using the meadow to flourish and get on along side the puriest by not incrouching on their growing space. Every meadow needs manure to help it to flourish may that be flowers that are seasonal and die and rot to regrow next season or horse shit that is spread to strengthen those hardy annals that last the whole year round.

The choice here is to decide are u a hardy annual or a seasonal blossom it's up to u to decide how u flourish if u see a flower that looks like poison ivy u avoid it for the roses.theres enough room in the meadow for all the flowers u just need to find the ones u want to pick and leave the s "

Well said.

We have often gotten the whole "What you doing on a swinger site if you don't swap ?" attitude. This we attribute to inexperienced swingers who know no better.

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By *ohn MingoMan  over a year ago

Dublin


"

We have often gotten the whole "What you doing on a swinger site if you don't swap ?" attitude. This we attribute to inexperienced swingers who know no better. "

I'll admit, in my experience, you're a rarity around these parts.

But fair play.

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By *j47Man  over a year ago

limerick


"

We have often gotten the whole "What you doing on a swinger site if you don't swap ?" attitude. This we attribute to inexperienced swingers who know no better.

I'll admit, in my experience, you're a rarity around these parts.

But fair play. "

But there is people here that enjoy similar and it's not something u get in vanilla land

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By *ohn MingoMan  over a year ago

Dublin


"

We have often gotten the whole "What you doing on a swinger site if you don't swap ?" attitude. This we attribute to inexperienced swingers who know no better.

I'll admit, in my experience, you're a rarity around these parts.

But fair play.

But there is people here that enjoy similar and it's not something u get in vanilla land "

I'm not sure I get you. soft swinging is still swinging, it's just I haven't come across much of it on my travels.

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By *j47Man  over a year ago

limerick


"

We have often gotten the whole "What you doing on a swinger site if you don't swap ?" attitude. This we attribute to inexperienced swingers who know no better.

I'll admit, in my experience, you're a rarity around these parts.

But fair play.

But there is people here that enjoy similar and it's not something u get in vanilla land

I'm not sure I get you. soft swinging is still swinging, it's just I haven't come across much of it on my travels. "

I am agreeing with u but I have come across it and would meet again in a heart beat,

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

We have often gotten the whole "What you doing on a swinger site if you don't swap ?" attitude. This we attribute to inexperienced swingers who know no better.

I'll admit, in my experience, you're a rarity around these parts.

But fair play. "

I've come across it quite a bit, not my thing but it seems common enough.

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By *ohn MingoMan  over a year ago

Dublin


"

We have often gotten the whole "What you doing on a swinger site if you don't swap ?" attitude. This we attribute to inexperienced swingers who know no better.

I'll admit, in my experience, you're a rarity around these parts.

But fair play.

But there is people here that enjoy similar and it's not something u get in vanilla land

I'm not sure I get you. soft swinging is still swinging, it's just I haven't come across much of it on my travels.

I am agreeing with u but I have come across it and would meet again in a heart beat, "

Fair play.

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