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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Apparently 200 male UCD students could be in a lot of trouble for sharing sex pics and stories of their conquests and then being rated on performance or the images.
What a bunch of morons. Surely it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know you cannot share someone's image without their consent.
And it seems the derogatory 'lad culture' is largely made up of Agricultural Science students.
I'm sure there are many decent guys in Ag Science, but it takes a few gobshites to tar all.
Should they be expelled
Thoughts, opinions?
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over a year ago
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Apparently 200 male UCD students could be in a lot of trouble for sharing sex pics and stories of their conquests and then being rated on performance or the images.
What a bunch of morons. Surely it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know you cannot share someone's image without their consent.
And it seems the derogatory 'lad culture' is largely made up of Agricultural Science students.
I'm sure there are many decent guys in Ag Science, but it takes a few gobshites to tar all.
Should they be expelled
Thoughts, opinions?
lee"
Young, dumb and full of cum...like I read somewhere..I'm so glad I made all
My mistakes in the 80's and early 90's before the Internet came along.. |
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By *aid backMan
over a year ago
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obviously there's not enough class time/ study time. when I first studied we had 36 hours of classes/tutorials/labs in a week plus where expected to do 20 hours revision/study at home. so engineering students would never get up to this carry on be cause they wouldn't have the time.
on a more serious note I think they should be all removed from the college for bringing the college into disrepute |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Apparently 200 male UCD students could be in a lot of trouble for sharing sex pics and stories of their conquests and then being rated on performance or the images.
What a bunch of morons. Surely it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know you cannot share someone's image without their consent.
And it seems the derogatory 'lad culture' is largely made up of Agricultural Science students.
I'm sure there are many decent guys in Ag Science, but it takes a few gobshites to tar all.
Should they be expelled
Thoughts, opinions?
lee"
Brings us back to the girl in slane doesn't it...
What if it was a bunch of girls with cock pics and doing the same about guys...
My answer is Yes they should be expelled...
Their face pics should published and let all their small towns they probably come from what sleazy shits they are... |
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By *aid backMan
over a year ago
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"And you don't think your pictures from here aren't being shared?"
yep definitely without a doubt they are. sure I know of one woman who was actively asking blokes to get this other woman's face pic luckily one or two of the lads told the lady in question what was going on.
so be very careful who you send pics to and be careful who you allow take pics when you are having fun. |
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"And you don't think your pictures from here aren't being shared?
yep definitely without a doubt they are. sure I know of one woman who was actively asking blokes to get this other woman's face pic luckily one or two of the lads told the lady in question what was going on.
so be very careful who you send pics to and be careful who you allow take pics when you are having fun."
fooking hell that's mad ?? |
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Expulsion is like passing the buck and not solving the problem. These lads should be held to account for their actions but to destroy what might be a bright future for them isnt the answer. Goes to show the lack of maturity and utter stupidity by those involved and the authorities should take the right action with these lads. Lads are lads and are gonna brag and rate girls,they were doing it in whispers behind their hands in my day when a girl passed them by.The social media site where their "group" is also very wrong to allow the pics be uploaded onto their site in the first place.It should be automatic that pics of that nature are uploaded without consent with stricter guidelines in place. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"And you don't think your pictures from here aren't being shared?
yep definitely without a doubt they are. sure I know of one woman who was actively asking blokes to get this other woman's face pic luckily one or two of the lads told the lady in question what was going on.
so be very careful who you send pics to and be careful who you allow take pics when you are having fun."
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"Expulsion is like passing the buck and not solving the problem. These lads should be held to account for their actions but to destroy what might be a bright future for them isnt the answer. Goes to show the lack of maturity and utter stupidity by those involved and the authorities should take the right action with these lads. Lads are lads and are gonna brag and rate girls,they were doing it in whispers behind their hands in my day when a girl passed them by.The social media site where their "group" is also very wrong to allow the pics be uploaded onto their site in the first place.It should be automatic that pics of that nature are uploaded without consent with stricter guidelines in place."
Would whole heartily agree with you .......foolishness of what is youth and inmature cockiness shouldn't distrust a person forever |
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"Happens on here all the time 
... and then you get those who join "Face pic" threads!!  "
Being a site supporter gives an option of the pic being removed after the message has been read so theres less of a chance for the pic to be stolen or used elsewhere. Ive sent face pics myself and find this option very handy  |
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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago
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"Expulsion is like passing the buck and not solving the problem. These lads should be held to account for their actions but to destroy what might be a bright future for them isnt the answer. Goes to show the lack of maturity and utter stupidity by those involved and the authorities should take the right action with these lads. Lads are lads and are gonna brag and rate girls,they were doing it in whispers behind their hands in my day when a girl passed them by.The social media site where their "group" is also very wrong to allow the pics be uploaded onto their site in the first place.It should be automatic that pics of that nature are uploaded without consent with stricter guidelines in place."
This!  well said! |
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By *j47Man
over a year ago
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I think this is part of a bigger issue the "issue of consent", the fact that these young men and women got to this stage of their life without knowing what consent really means is frightening.should they be expelled I am undecided sanctioned yes and any relevant info given to the gaurds for criminal investigation. Unfortunately in this age of technology it is and will be abused. The guys were twats for for what they done and without victim blaming the girls what where they thinking letting the pics be taken. Here we know they will be posted and once on the Internet we can't control who shares or uses them our kids are way more savy these days I thought |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Happens on here all the time
... and then you get those who join "Face pic" threads!!
Being a site supporter gives an option of the pic being removed after the message has been read so theres less of a chance for the pic to be stolen or used elsewhere. Ive sent face pics myself and find this option very handy "
This wouldnt stop ppl taking a screenshot tho. |
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"Happens on here all the time
... and then you get those who join "Face pic" threads!!
Being a site supporter gives an option of the pic being removed after the message has been read so theres less of a chance for the pic to be stolen or used elsewhere. Ive sent face pics myself and find this option very handy
This wouldnt stop ppl taking a screenshot tho."
Exactly... |
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"Happens on here all the time
... and then you get those who join "Face pic" threads!!
Being a site supporter gives an option of the pic being removed after the message has been read so theres less of a chance for the pic to be stolen or used elsewhere. Ive sent face pics myself and find this option very handy
This wouldnt stop ppl taking a screenshot tho."
Theyd wanna be bloody quick!Admin should introduce a 10 second limit on the pics,like photo bomb on kik.. |
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"Happens on here all the time
... and then you get those who join "Face pic" threads!!
Being a site supporter gives an option of the pic being removed after the message has been read so theres less of a chance for the pic to be stolen or used elsewhere. Ive sent face pics myself and find this option very handy "
I would never send a face pic through this site. ...I send them by kik |
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"Happens on here all the time
... and then you get those who join "Face pic" threads!!
Being a site supporter gives an option of the pic being removed after the message has been read so theres less of a chance for the pic to be stolen or used elsewhere. Ive sent face pics myself and find this option very handy
I would never send a face pic through this site. ...I send them by kik"
Wont stop them being screenshot on kik either and used elsewhere. |
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"Happens on here all the time
... and then you get those who join "Face pic" threads!!
Being a site supporter gives an option of the pic being removed after the message has been read so theres less of a chance for the pic to be stolen or used elsewhere. Ive sent face pics myself and find this option very handy
I would never send a face pic through this site. ...I send them by kik
Wont stop them being screenshot on kik either and used elsewhere. "
it's only a face pic....no naked body and nothing to connect you to a swing site |
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Theyd wanna be bloody quick!Admin should introduce a 10 second limit on the pics,like photo bomb on kik..
One only needs 1 second to grab a photo..."
True but usually id use my gut instinct before id send a pic in the first place. These lads in which the topic is about havent mentally matured enough to know how to use theirs and knowing right from wrong. |
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it's only a face pic....no naked body and nothing to connect you to a swing site
Doesn't stop them from being used by someone else... on a swing site!sure you can say that about any photo.."
Exactly!! |
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it's only a face pic....no naked body and nothing to connect you to a swing site
Doesn't stop them from being used by someone else... on a swing site!sure you can say that about any photo..
Exactly!!"
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"I think this is part of a bigger issue the "issue of consent", the fact that these young men and women got to this stage of their life without knowing what consent really means is frightening.should they be expelled I am undecided sanctioned yes and any relevant info given to the gaurds for criminal investigation. Unfortunately in this age of technology it is and will be abused. The guys were twats for for what they done and without victim blaming the girls what where they thinking letting the pics be taken. Here we know they will be posted and once on the Internet we can't control who shares or uses them our kids are way more savy these days I thought "
Obviously not Cj and parents like us think differently. Im being totally honest here as a Mum of children in their 20s,i dont know what way id react if that was my son involved.College has a name for casual sex and one night stands so its unbelievable that this is actually happening in one of the best colleges in Ireland today.Surely one of 200 of the group knew it was wrong ,but hadnt the balls to say so? Peer pressure maybe? Following the crowd to be included? Ive no idea why....its very sad too. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Agreed on most points. I hope that this cyber generation learn from their mistakes and that the future generations don't take this dark road in the large numbers we see today.
I could just say, I blame the parents and maybe that's unfair but as parents we have the responsibility to teach our children right from wrong and I'm not sure that's happening as much as it needs to. These 200 young men obviously thought it was fair game.....it's a high number
I think It's a scary reflection of society
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By *j47Man
over a year ago
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"I think this is part of a bigger issue the "issue of consent", the fact that these young men and women got to this stage of their life without knowing what consent really means is frightening.should they be expelled I am undecided sanctioned yes and any relevant info given to the gaurds for criminal investigation. Unfortunately in this age of technology it is and will be abused. The guys were twats for for what they done and without victim blaming the girls what where they thinking letting the pics be taken. Here we know they will be posted and once on the Internet we can't control who shares or uses them our kids are way more savy these days I thought
Obviously not Cj and parents like us think differently. Im being totally honest here as a Mum of children in their 20s,i dont know what way id react if that was my son involved.College has a name for casual sex and one night stands so its unbelievable that this is actually happening in one of the best colleges in Ireland today.Surely one of 200 of the group knew it was wrong ,but hadnt the balls to say so? Peer pressure maybe? Following the crowd to be included? Ive no idea why....its very sad too."
Peer pressure or not they all had the option to remove them selves from the group these are young adults we expect them to explore and discover to make informed decisions surely they knew it was wrong but continued to participate for that they need to be corrected (if that's the right word).I can imagine some of these girls innocently thought the pic was between them not for public appraisal (naive to say the least). This is one group that have got caught how many more are there if it was one of mine I think I'd feel let down in the knowledge that did my best to teach them right from wrong but second that they didn't have the balls to stand up and say no |
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Id not blame the parents at all, id actually shake their hands for their son reaching third level education and struggling with huge sacrifices too to get them there. But as a parent, you dont stop parenting children when they turn 18.Instead the reins are loosened a little bit more to allow them make decisions as adults.I cannot imagine what these lads parents are feeling and id agree with Cj in feeling let down and somewhat hurt that my son was capable of being part of that.A huge mistake on their part yes and a disgusting one at that.For every action,theres a consequence. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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I think part of the problem here is that a lot of these guys don't actually realise they are breaking the law.
To them it's not as clear as, shall we say, physical assault, rape, murder or theft....the traditional crimes.
So it's a bit like ignorance in the workplace on what constitutes sexual harassment, I believe that we need everyone educated on cyber crime
Did they receive it in school?
Or is getting caught the problem for them?
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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If any of the girls involved are under 18 (and apparently there are first years involved so its possible), then those who distributed images can be prosecuted as sex offenders for distributing sexual images of minors. |
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By *j47Man
over a year ago
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"If any of the girls involved are under 18 (and apparently there are first years involved so its possible), then those who distributed images can be prosecuted as sex offenders for distributing sexual images of minors."
Outside of the above scenario which cannot be taken lightly what law have they broken trying to think here there is no criminal law,possibly civil as in copyright but most worryingly is moral by not treating others with basic levels of respect that u yourself would expect |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"If any of the girls involved are under 18 (and apparently there are first years involved so its possible), then those who distributed images can be prosecuted as sex offenders for distributing sexual images of minors.
Outside of the above scenario which cannot be taken lightly what law have they broken trying to think here there is no criminal law,possibly civil as in copyright but most worryingly is moral by not treating others with basic levels of respect that u yourself would expect "
Oh well, respect for others is a dying trait in humanity. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If any of the girls involved are under 18 (and apparently there are first years involved so its possible), then those who distributed images can be prosecuted as sex offenders for distributing sexual images of minors."
Small bit ott in fairness to paint them as sex offenders. |
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By *aid backMan
over a year ago
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surely if they wanted to they could charge them with distribution of porn with out a licence ? that is if there is such a thing ? or i know revenge porn is illegal in the uk not sure it is here but that would be a good law to have/ use.
but if it was my daughter they'd need the law to protect them. especially if they got away with no corrective action. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If any of the girls involved are under 18 (and apparently there are first years involved so its possible), then those who distributed images can be prosecuted as sex offenders for distributing sexual images of minors.
Small bit ott in fairness to paint them as sex offenders."
If they are 17 under law they are classed as minors , so if your sharing sexual pictures of minors then they can be charged as sex offenders. |
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By *aid backMan
over a year ago
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"If any of the girls involved are under 18 (and apparently there are first years involved so its possible), then those who distributed images can be prosecuted as sex offenders for distributing sexual images of minors.
Small bit ott in fairness to paint them as sex offenders."
if any of the girls are under 18 then having nude pictures of them makes them exactly that and if they have pics of them having " relations" with them they would be done for statutory rape. |
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By *j47Man
over a year ago
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"surely if they wanted to they could charge them with distribution of porn with out a licence ? that is if there is such a thing ? or i know revenge porn is illegal in the uk not sure it is here but that would be a good law to have/ use.
but if it was my daughter they'd need the law to protect them. especially if they got away with no corrective action. "
Think the emotional attachment would have me thinking the same if it was my daughter,but let's not forget these young women had the power to not alow the pics to be taken albeit it they never intended them (pics)to be used as they were that seems to be totally on the lads heads |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If any of the girls involved are under 18 (and apparently there are first years involved so its possible), then those who distributed images can be prosecuted as sex offenders for distributing sexual images of minors.
Small bit ott in fairness to paint them as sex offenders.
if any of the girls are under 18 then having nude pictures of them makes them exactly that and if they have pics of them having " relations" with them they would be done for statutory rape."
Would you say that if it was your son nephew or whatever. People are very quick to judge . |
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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago
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"surely if they wanted to they could charge them with distribution of porn with out a licence ? that is if there is such a thing ? or i know revenge porn is illegal in the uk not sure it is here but that would be a good law to have/ use.
but if it was my daughter they'd need the law to protect them. especially if they got away with no corrective action.
Think the emotional attachment would have me thinking the same if it was my daughter,but let's not forget these young women had the power to not alow the pics to be taken albeit it they never intended them (pics)to be used as they were that seems to be totally on the lads heads "
You assume that the girls were aware that those pics were taken.... |
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By *j47Man
over a year ago
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"surely if they wanted to they could charge them with distribution of porn with out a licence ? that is if there is such a thing ? or i know revenge porn is illegal in the uk not sure it is here but that would be a good law to have/ use.
but if it was my daughter they'd need the law to protect them. especially if they got away with no corrective action.
Think the emotional attachment would have me thinking the same if it was my daughter,but let's not forget these young women had the power to not alow the pics to be taken albeit it they never intended them (pics)to be used as they were that seems to be totally on the lads heads
You assume that the girls were aware that those pics were taken...."
Yes totally it's not clear if the girls knew but I think there is a suggestion that some were selfie's sent to the guys. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"If any of the girls involved are under 18 (and apparently there are first years involved so its possible), then those who distributed images can be prosecuted as sex offenders for distributing sexual images of minors.
Small bit ott in fairness to paint them as sex offenders.
if any of the girls are under 18 then having nude pictures of them makes them exactly that and if they have pics of them having " relations" with them they would be done for statutory rape.
Would you say that if it was your son nephew or whatever. People are very quick to judge ."
And if one of the girls in question was your daughter? |
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By *j47Man
over a year ago
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"If any of the girls involved are under 18 (and apparently there are first years involved so its possible), then those who distributed images can be prosecuted as sex offenders for distributing sexual images of minors.
Small bit ott in fairness to paint them as sex offenders.
if any of the girls are under 18 then having nude pictures of them makes them exactly that and if they have pics of them having " relations" with them they would be done for statutory rape.
Would you say that if it was your son nephew or whatever. People are very quick to judge .
And if one of the girls in question was your daughter?"
This is something to be looked at by the Dpp yes if the girl was under age the chances are a case would be taken |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"It's interesting what effect technology has had both positive and negative.
It's just so easy for our kids to screw up big time now
Not just kids "
Indeed |
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By (user no longer on site)
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It's the day and age we live in now ... we all need to be aware how we behave around minors which under law is 17 and below. What you might think is innocent or I had worse when i was growing up that argument under law doesn't work. Taken many child protection courses to.understand you need to enforce caution when dealing with minors. |
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By *aid backMan
over a year ago
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"If any of the girls involved are under 18 (and apparently there are first years involved so its possible), then those who distributed images can be prosecuted as sex offenders for distributing sexual images of minors.
Small bit ott in fairness to paint them as sex offenders.
if any of the girls are under 18 then having nude pictures of them makes them exactly that and if they have pics of them having " relations" with them they would be done for statutory rape.
Would you say that if it was your son nephew or whatever. People are very quick to judge ."
if it was my son id feel the exact same in fact id drag him to the guards myself. |
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By *j47Man
over a year ago
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"It's the day and age we live in now ... we all need to be aware how we behave around minors which under law is 17 and below. What you might think is innocent or I had worse when i was growing up that argument under law doesn't work. Taken many child protection courses to.understand you need to enforce caution when dealing with minors. "
Taking the above into account these lads and ladies would possible all be around the same age,while the law is the law an 18yr old having consentual sex with a seventeen year old does for us older people still come under statuary rape where for them it was an experiment they got carried away with would this be fair to say |
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"If any of the girls involved are under 18 (and apparently there are first years involved so its possible), then those who distributed images can be prosecuted as sex offenders for distributing sexual images of minors.
Small bit ott in fairness to paint them as sex offenders.
if any of the girls are under 18 then having nude pictures of them makes them exactly that and if they have pics of them having " relations" with them they would be done for statutory rape.
Would you say that if it was your son nephew or whatever. People are very quick to judge .
if it was my son id feel the exact same in fact id drag him to the guards myself."
So youd gladly want your son branded a sex offender most likely get jail time and fuck up the rest of his life inc education, job and prospects of a descent love life. A young life ruined. The law is there to protect the girl but not everything in life is so black and white. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"It's the day and age we live in now ... we all need to be aware how we behave around minors which under law is 17 and below. What you might think is innocent or I had worse when i was growing up that argument under law doesn't work. Taken many child protection courses to.understand you need to enforce caution when dealing with minors.
Taking the above into account these lads and ladies would possible all be around the same age,while the law is the law an 18yr old having consentual sex with a seventeen year old does for us older people still come under statuary rape where for them it was an experiment they got carried away with would this be fair to say"
A 17 year old is above the age of consent for sex,however it is illegal to possess or distribute sexual images of anyone who is under 18. So an 18 year old can have sex with a 17 year old, but not take pictures - somewhat of an anomaly, you may argue.
A 17 year old who has sex with a 16 year old can be charged with statutory rape. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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As far as I understand it, where one party is a minor and the other is less than two years older (even if over 18), they can be convicted, but would not be registered as a sex offender (provided the sex was consensual) |
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By *j47Man
over a year ago
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"It's the day and age we live in now ... we all need to be aware how we behave around minors which under law is 17 and below. What you might think is innocent or I had worse when i was growing up that argument under law doesn't work. Taken many child protection courses to.understand you need to enforce caution when dealing with minors.
Taking the above into account these lads and ladies would possible all be around the same age,while the law is the law an 18yr old having consentual sex with a seventeen year old does for us older people still come under statuary rape where for them it was an experiment they got carried away with would this be fair to say
A 17 year old is above the age of consent for sex,however it is illegal to possess or distribute sexual images of anyone who is under 18. So an 18 year old can have sex with a 17 year old, but not take pictures - somewhat of an anomaly, you may argue.
A 17 year old who has sex with a 16 year old can be charged with statutory rape."
I see thanks for clearing that up |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I think these lads need to be punished yes I don't think having criminal charges over their heads for the rest of their lives will help . Education here is key and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if these lads had no clue of rules surrounding privacy/sharing of pics etc the youth of today live in a social media bubble and unfortunately don't see what they are doing as wrong .
Someone mentioned about schools teaching cyber safety etc ?! Schools do very little of this and I was recently told by a principal regarding online bullying , that it was outside school hours so therefore nothing to do with them . |
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This is an excellent topic to be discussed.After reading the comments from other posters, id be more mindful and remind my children of whats right and wrong in internet usage.Hopefully with this being highlighted on news bulletins it might stop other students making the same mistake as the lads in question. Its not ideal but its a start.Im sure its the talking point of students in colleges around the country as we chat about it. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I think these lads need to be punished yes I don't think having criminal charges over their heads for the rest of their lives will help . Education here is key and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if these lads had no clue of rules surrounding privacy/sharing of pics etc the youth of today live in a social media bubble and unfortunately don't see what they are doing as wrong .
Someone mentioned about schools teaching cyber safety etc ?! Schools do very little of this and I was recently told by a principal regarding online bullying , that it was outside school hours so therefore nothing to do with them . "
My children's school take the matter very seriously and have suspended kids over cyberbullying. They often bring in people to give talks to parents on internet issues,having attended some of these, I can say that the level of naivety/ignorance of some parents about what their children may be doing or seeing on the internet is staggering - and thats the parents who bothered to show an interest by turning up..... |
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I think most of you will agree that you will look at porn and know it for what it is. However most of this younger generation have been exposed to it through the internet at an age. They cannot take on board what's going on and to them this is what sex is about the degradation of women and or sharing this with others.
I don't believe they have the capacity to comprehend what is real and what is being portrayed in porn
As one poster said, they are in a bubble
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"I think these lads need to be punished yes I don't think having criminal charges over their heads for the rest of their lives will help . Education here is key and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if these lads had no clue of rules surrounding privacy/sharing of pics etc the youth of today live in a social media bubble and unfortunately don't see what they are doing as wrong .
Someone mentioned about schools teaching cyber safety etc ?! Schools do very little of this and I was recently told by a principal regarding online bullying , that it was outside school hours so therefore nothing to do with them .
My children's school take the matter very seriously and have suspended kids over cyberbullying. They often bring in people to give talks to parents on internet issues,having attended some of these, I can say that the level of naivety/ignorance of some parents about what their children may be doing or seeing on the internet is staggering - and thats the parents who bothered to show an interest by turning up..... "
Its unreal , the reason these serious topics have not been done in my area is because of stupid naive parents that think by not talking about this stuff their darling children won't either do it or know about it .On a number of occasions talks on bullying & cyber bullying , sex ed and drug talks have been refused by parents associations and groups of parents that for some reason think that by sticking their heads in the sand that our youth of today are going to grow up to be model citizens |
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"I think these lads need to be punished yes I don't think having criminal charges over their heads for the rest of their lives will help . Education here is key and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if these lads had no clue of rules surrounding privacy/sharing of pics etc the youth of today live in a social media bubble and unfortunately don't see what they are doing as wrong .
Someone mentioned about schools teaching cyber safety etc ?! Schools do very little of this and I was recently told by a principal regarding online bullying , that it was outside school hours so therefore nothing to do with them .
My children's school take the matter very seriously and have suspended kids over cyberbullying. They often bring in people to give talks to parents on internet issues,having attended some of these, I can say that the level of naivety/ignorance of some parents about what their children may be doing or seeing on the internet is staggering - and thats the parents who bothered to show an interest by turning up.....
Its unreal , the reason these serious topics have not been done in my area is because of stupid naive parents that think by not talking about this stuff their darling children won't either do it or know about it .On a number of occasions talks on bullying & cyber bullying , sex ed and drug talks have been refused by parents associations and groups of parents that for some reason think that by sticking their heads in the sand that our youth of today are going to grow up to be model citizens "
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"I think these lads need to be punished yes I don't think having criminal charges over their heads for the rest of their lives will help . Education here is key and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if these lads had no clue of rules surrounding privacy/sharing of pics etc the youth of today live in a social media bubble and unfortunately don't see what they are doing as wrong .
Someone mentioned about schools teaching cyber safety etc ?! Schools do very little of this and I was recently told by a principal regarding online bullying , that it was outside school hours so therefore nothing to do with them .
My children's school take the matter very seriously and have suspended kids over cyberbullying. They often bring in people to give talks to parents on internet issues,having attended some of these, I can say that the level of naivety/ignorance of some parents about what their children may be doing or seeing on the internet is staggering - and thats the parents who bothered to show an interest by turning up.....
Its unreal , the reason these serious topics have not been done in my area is because of stupid naive parents that think by not talking about this stuff their darling children won't either do it or know about it .On a number of occasions talks on bullying & cyber bullying , sex ed and drug talks have been refused by parents associations and groups of parents that for some reason think that by sticking their heads in the sand that our youth of today are going to grow up to be model citizens "
Oh dear, some local action needs to be taken there. L |
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"As far as I understand it, where one party is a minor and the other is less than two years older (even if over 18), they can be convicted, but would not be registered as a sex offender (provided the sex was consensual)"
Should that not be: more than two years older and even if under 18? |
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"As far as I understand it, where one party is a minor and the other is less than two years older (even if over 18), they can be convicted, but would not be registered as a sex offender (provided the sex was consensual)
Should that not be: more than two years older and even if under 18?"
Sorry, should be as long as they were under 18 at the time of the alleged offence, they can be convicted but will not be placed on the register. |
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Apparently 200 male UCD students could be in a lot of trouble for sharing sex pics and stories of their conquests and then being rated on performance or the images.
What a bunch of morons. Surely it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know you cannot share someone's image without their consent.
And it seems the derogatory 'lad culture' is largely made up of Agricultural Science students.
I'm sure there are many decent guys in Ag Science, but it takes a few gobshites to tar all.
Should they be expelled
Thoughts, opinions?
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Brings us back to the girl in slane doesn't it...
What if it was a bunch of girls with cock pics and doing the same about guys...
My answer is Yes they should be expelled...
Their face pics should published and let all their small towns they probably come from what sleazy shits they are..."
So you are suggesting that any guys caught by the college should have their faces splashed all over their towns??
Are you aware that to date not one single girl has contacted the Gardai with information??..
Not one single girl has given evidence to College Management...
There are 200 young males suggested to be involved, the page can not be found on the internet, and the story was first broke by the college newspaper after a girl contacted them, not claiming that she was involved, but knew it was happening...
Unless a guy is convicted of a crime by the Law he is not guilty, even if he is I have never once heard of a case where images of said person has been splashed around town.. |
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"Expulsion is like passing the buck and not solving the problem. These lads should be held to account for their actions but to destroy what might be a bright future for them isnt the answer. Goes to show the lack of maturity and utter stupidity by those involved and the authorities should take the right action with these lads. Lads are lads and are gonna brag and rate girls,they were doing it in whispers behind their hands in my day when a girl passed them by.The social media site where their "group" is also very wrong to allow the pics be uploaded onto their site in the first place.It should be automatic that pics of that nature are uploaded without consent with stricter guidelines in place."
Behind the ha d and immortalised digitally online for all to see are different prospects and deserve different treatment. |
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Anything and I mean anything can be resurrected from the www...everything we post leaves a digital footprint and if need be the proper authorities can go digging for information...even on this site.
These guys need to be punished with the full extent of the law. It's happening all to easily now thinking that it was cool to share the photos without consent. Was there a issue a couple of weeks ago regarding a young girl who's photos turned up on a porn site?
I'm not sure of how many women were involved in this photo sharing issue, now no girls have come forward as of yet though embarrassment/shame but maybe just maybe when one of those girls reach the peak of their career these photos turn up?
Be extremely careful on the web it's not as secure as it seems. As for kik and photobomb just grab a screenshot. |
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"Expulsion is like passing the buck and not solving the problem. These lads should be held to account for their actions but to destroy what might be a bright future for them isnt the answer. Goes to show the lack of maturity and utter stupidity by those involved and the authorities should take the right action with these lads. Lads are lads and are gonna brag and rate girls,they were doing it in whispers behind their hands in my day when a girl passed them by.The social media site where their "group" is also very wrong to allow the pics be uploaded onto their site in the first place.It should be automatic that pics of that nature are uploaded without consent with stricter guidelines in place."
Sorry missed this most excellent well thought out post
UCD has a strict procedure for dealing with matters like this, which is still an URBAN MYTH to date....
The Gardai are not involved as to date not onr single girl has made an offical complaint...
I find it appalling that a person on this thread chose to blame the boys parents, typical lazy blame game..
As a mother of now two young males, both still invilved with colleges..
I brought them up to be decent individuals, my youngest son took the time to educate me on the behaviour of many if his female peers..
Young women, happy to share sexual images of themselves, supposedly computer savvy but no common sense...
This problem ie sharing of private sexual images is widespread, and not dictated by gender...
Girls are renowned for punishing peers and their exes by revenge pirn, but hey lots of people choose to ignore this fact...
The department of agri in UCD is male dominated, many of these girls are aware of the mindset of these young males, but still share sexual pics with them
Again, until the URBAN MYTH is proven to be factual, perhaps the Judge Rindell brigade should get a life ... |
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"Expulsion is like passing the buck and not solving the problem. These lads should be held to account for their actions but to destroy what might be a bright future for them isnt the answer. Goes to show the lack of maturity and utter stupidity by those involved and the authorities should take the right action with these lads. Lads are lads and are gonna brag and rate girls,they were doing it in whispers behind their hands in my day when a girl passed them by.The social media site where their "group" is also very wrong to allow the pics be uploaded onto their site in the first place.It should be automatic that pics of that nature are uploaded without consent with stricter guidelines in place.
Sorry missed this most excellent well thought out post
UCD has a strict procedure for dealing with matters like this, which is still an URBAN MYTH to date....
The Gardai are not involved as to date not onr single girl has made an offical complaint...
I find it appalling that a person on this thread chose to blame the boys parents, typical lazy blame game..
As a mother of now two young males, both still invilved with colleges..
I brought them up to be decent individuals, my youngest son took the time to educate me on the behaviour of many if his female peers..
Young women, happy to share sexual images of themselves, supposedly computer savvy but no common sense...
This problem ie sharing of private sexual images is widespread, and not dictated by gender...
Girls are renowned for punishing peers and their exes by revenge pirn, but hey lots of people choose to ignore this fact...
The department of agri in UCD is male dominated, many of these girls are aware of the mindset of these young males, but still share sexual pics with them
Again, until the URBAN MYTH is proven to be factual, perhaps the Judge Rindell brigade should get a life ..."
Bar the one or two emotionally charged responses this was actually one of the better threads on here that involved a good conversation around the topic. Judge Riddell never commented and people's opinion was expressed and talked about some actually taking points raised and adjusting their opinion as the convo went on without any one feeling the need to group people in to a hanging party |
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"Expulsion is like passing the buck and not solving the problem. These lads should be held to account for their actions but to destroy what might be a bright future for them isnt the answer. Goes to show the lack of maturity and utter stupidity by those involved and the authorities should take the right action with these lads. Lads are lads and are gonna brag and rate girls,they were doing it in whispers behind their hands in my day when a girl passed them by.The social media site where their "group" is also very wrong to allow the pics be uploaded onto their site in the first place.It should be automatic that pics of that nature are uploaded without consent with stricter guidelines in place.
Sorry missed this most excellent well thought out post
UCD has a strict procedure for dealing with matters like this, which is still an URBAN MYTH to date....
The Gardai are not involved as to date not onr single girl has made an offical complaint...
I find it appalling that a person on this thread chose to blame the boys parents, typical lazy blame game..
As a mother of now two young males, both still invilved with colleges..
I brought them up to be decent individuals, my youngest son took the time to educate me on the behaviour of many if his female peers..
Young women, happy to share sexual images of themselves, supposedly computer savvy but no common sense...
This problem ie sharing of private sexual images is widespread, and not dictated by gender...
Girls are renowned for punishing peers and their exes by revenge pirn, but hey lots of people choose to ignore this fact...
The department of agri in UCD is male dominated, many of these girls are aware of the mindset of these young males, but still share sexual pics with them
Again, until the URBAN MYTH is proven to be factual, perhaps the Judge Rindell brigade should get a life ...
Bar the one or two emotionally charged responses this was actually one of the better threads on here that involved a good conversation around the topic. Judge Riddell never commented and people's opinion was expressed and talked about some actually taking points raised and adjusting their opinion as the convo went on without any one feeling the need to group people in to a hanging party "
Your opinion which you are indeed fully entitled to, mine differs , again one which I am fully entitled to and express..
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"Worth a read http://www.thejournal.ie/readme/women-who-eat-on-tubes-stranger-shaming-social-media-1403346-Apr2014/"
Interesting...I can understand her horror at being pictured eating a meal on the tube and then having that picture put on the internet but....I could also understand the discomfort of having someone eat a meal next to me/opposite me on a tube train/bus etc. |
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Again, until the URBAN MYTH is proven to be factual, perhaps the Judge Rindell brigade should get a life ...
Bar the one or two emotionally charged responses this was actually one of the better threads on here that involved a good conversation around the topic. Judge Riddell never commented and people's opinion was expressed and talked about some actually taking points raised and adjusting their opinion as the convo went on without any one feeling the need to group people in to a hanging party
Your opinion which you are indeed fully entitled to, mine differs , again one which I am fully entitled to and express..
Thank You..."
Totally agree with freedom of expression while ur opinion was informed and with the benefit of hindsight as the thread was posted last week when the story was breaking and some emotionally charged opinions were given and talked about some making valid points others accepting them and respecting the others opinion as I did urs.
It's the passive aggressive added comment that I commented on |
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Again, until the URBAN MYTH is proven to be factual, perhaps the Judge Rindell brigade should get a life ...
Bar the one or two emotionally charged responses this was actually one of the better threads on here that involved a good conversation around the topic. Judge Riddell never commented and people's opinion was expressed and talked about some actually taking points raised and adjusting their opinion as the convo went on without any one feeling the need to group people in to a hanging party
Your opinion which you are indeed fully entitled to, mine differs , again one which I am fully entitled to and express..
Thank You...
Totally agree with freedom of expression while ur opinion was informed and with the benefit of hindsight as the thread was posted last week when the story was breaking and some emotionally charged opinions were given and talked about some making valid points others accepting them and respecting the others opinion as I did urs.
It's the passive aggressive added comment that I commented on "
Passive , aggressive?
Fear not , I do not indulge in this, my comment was directed at anyone who chose to blame the parents, which in IMO is lazy and breeds a blame game attitude.
If any one of these men, and they are men not boys, has broken the law, they stand accused of a disgusting crime..
Their parents are not to blame...
Parents do educate their children these days both genders about the risks involved in sharing explicit images, yet they continue to do so, so blaming their parents is simply wrong IMO.. |
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Again, until the URBAN MYTH is proven to be factual, perhaps the Judge Rindell brigade should get a life ...
Bar the one or two emotionally charged responses this was actually one of the better threads on here that involved a good conversation around the topic. Judge Riddell never commented and people's opinion was expressed and talked about some actually taking points raised and adjusting their opinion as the convo went on without any one feeling the need to group people in to a hanging party
Your opinion which you are indeed fully entitled to, mine differs , again one which I am fully entitled to and express..
Thank You...
Totally agree with freedom of expression while ur opinion was informed and with the benefit of hindsight as the thread was posted last week when the story was breaking and some emotionally charged opinions were given and talked about some making valid points others accepting them and respecting the others opinion as I did urs.
It's the passive aggressive added comment that I commented on
Passive , aggressive?
Fear not , I do not indulge in this, my comment was directed at anyone who chose to blame the parents, which in IMO is lazy and breeds a blame game attitude.
If any one of these men, and they are men not boys, has broken the law, they stand accused of a disgusting crime..
Their parents are not to blame...
Parents do educate their children these days both genders about the risks involved in sharing explicit images, yet they continue to do so, so blaming their parents is simply wrong IMO.."
Reading back the parents got support of the majority, as all any parent can do is give the guidelines of good moral behaviour and steer our kids down the right path as said these are young adults we expect they will explore and experiment all we can do is hope they remember those guidelines and respect those they come in contact with in any way.
The parents are to blame is for a different thread I am sure it would be a buoyant one as there is I'd imagine a wide variety of opinions on this |
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"Always thought that everyone should have to have a licence to have a child as per dogs, cats etc."
Again, I am sure that the parents of the men supposedly involved are shocked and devastated that any child of theirs is involved, both male or the young women supposedly targeted.... |
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Again, until the URBAN MYTH is proven to be factual, perhaps the Judge Rindell brigade should get a life ...
Bar the one or two emotionally charged responses this was actually one of the better threads on here that involved a good conversation around the topic. Judge Riddell never commented and people's opinion was expressed and talked about some actually taking points raised and adjusting their opinion as the convo went on without any one feeling the need to group people in to a hanging party
Your opinion which you are indeed fully entitled to, mine differs , again one which I am fully entitled to and express..
Thank You...
Totally agree with freedom of expression while ur opinion was informed and with the benefit of hindsight as the thread was posted last week when the story was breaking and some emotionally charged opinions were given and talked about some making valid points others accepting them and respecting the others opinion as I did urs.
It's the passive aggressive added comment that I commented on
Passive , aggressive?
Fear not , I do not indulge in this, my comment was directed at anyone who chose to blame the parents, which in IMO is lazy and breeds a blame game attitude.
If any one of these men, and they are men not boys, has broken the law, they stand accused of a disgusting crime..
Their parents are not to blame...
Parents do educate their children these days both genders about the risks involved in sharing explicit images, yet they continue to do so, so blaming their parents is simply wrong IMO..
Reading back the parents got support of the majority, as all any parent can do is give the guidelines of good moral behaviour and steer our kids down the right path as said these are young adults we expect they will explore and experiment all we can do is hope they remember those guidelines and respect those they come in contact with in any way.
The parents are to blame is for a different thread I am sure it would be a buoyant one as there is I'd imagine a wide variety of opinions on this "
Yes, thankfuly the majority did recognise that the parents are not to blame..
My comment was directed at those who did not, totaly agree as parents we can only hope that our children grow up to be respectful and above such nasty behaviour..
UCD had already actively been engaging with its` students on the subject of consent re images ect ( gleaned this from.a member of staff ) if any of the accusations are true then those involved must face the appropriate action, as determined by policy within the college, and in the case of a girl reporting to Gardai , the Law... |
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