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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I've just read in the paper that a garda sued the state for 75,000 because she received a punch in the face.

Now I'd never condone violence against anyone, but considering she signed up for a job where it's likely she would get punched, do you think it's fair for her to sue??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Honestly I don't think that any public servant should be expected to become a punchbag while engaging in their duties on behalf of the state.

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By *eth TVTV/TS over a year ago

Mid Meath

"I've just read in the paper that a garda sued the state for 75,000 because she received a punch in the face.

Now I'd never condone violence against anyone, but considering she signed up for a job where it's likely she would get punched, do you think it's fair for her to sue?? "

While they can expect a certain degree of violence but it's not actually in a Garda's job description that they receive punches in the face. A boxer yeah but a Garda, no.

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By *addy36Man over a year ago

Mayo

I doubt there was any point in her suing the scumbag that punched her so she might as well sue the state

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yeah...fair play to her.

Well done I say.

Il go out and punch a garda now so they can get the same lol

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By *isdirtygirlWoman over a year ago

Dublin

I think she was right. She had rhinoplasty surgery from a broken nose and suffered with PTSD as a result. On top of that it had serious effects on her career advancement to become a Sergeant. I doubt anyone who becomes a garda signs up to be assaulted or harmed by wanting to protect the irish people.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Way too much that we don't know.

And anyone who comes out with the likes of 'well it's part of the job' isn't really putting much thought into it.

Who made the call to send her to the incident in question?

Was the suspect already known to be a violent person?

Was trouble expected when she was sent to interact?

Was she mis-informed with details of the call she was attending?

(Ps being a woman makes no difference before anyone points that out.)

But all of those questions could possibly implicate her employers, as maybe it was very obvious WHO and WHAT she was going to deal with and wether it was due to low staff numbers on duty, negligence, or whatever other reason, they chose to send her in without the needed back up or assistance etc etc.

Now of course there's every chance it's someone pulling a fast one for some easy money.

But in this particular career, there's way too much thats not thought of before people start mouthing off and dishing their abuse.

Ps I'm not implying OP is doing this. Btw

Peace

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

But the job does come with dangerous territory, why join if not prepared for that? I just think 75g is too much of our taxpayers money. Paid leave while she mended would have sufficed in my eyes..

didn't realise she had surgery though, I just read she had a fractured nose and was too intimidated to move forward, in which case probably shouldn't have been a guard anyway? :/

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"But the job does come with dangerous territory, why join if not prepared for that? I just think 75g is too much of our taxpayers money. Paid leave while she mended would have sufficed in my eyes..

didn't realise she had surgery though, I just read she had a fractured nose and was too intimidated to move forward, in which case probably shouldn't have been a guard anyway? :/ "

Nobody knows how they will respond to a situation until it happens

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Nobody expects to be punched at work. She sued her employers. I'd do the same if I was punched in work

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"But the job does come with dangerous territory, why join if not prepared for that? I just think 75g is too much of our taxpayers money. Paid leave while she mended would have sufficed in my eyes..

didn't realise she had surgery though, I just read she had a fractured nose and was too intimidated to move forward, in which case probably shouldn't have been a guard anyway? :/ "

I do actually see your points and I understand where your getting them.

But the bottom line is you don't sign up to be collateral damage.

Yes you need a certain mindframe to do the job and yes there are tons of members who don't have it and should've chosen a different carrier.

Unfortunately the ones that have the mindset that's needed are usually the ones who get the abuse for being a thick necked prick of a guard lol

But I disagree completely.

Noone should be expected to take that as 'part of the job'

75k is crazy money alright but IF she has been effected to the point where she won't progress in her career and it was down to a fuck up that was not hers then maybe she's getting what she deserves.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

That 75 grand will hardly make up what she lost when out of work sick as they loose wages when out after 12,weeks even if injured at work

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"That 75 grand will hardly make up what she lost when out of work sick as they loose wages when out after 12,weeks even if injured at work "

Ah to be fair,

I don't know the stage she's at in her career so don't know her pay scale but starting is approx 28k and capped at 47k after 19yrs service last time I checked.

This was all pre 2008 recruitment embargo changes blah blah blah.

So split it down the middle and say she's on 35k??

NO WAY a broken nose keeps you off work for two years?

So 75k isn't a bad deal lok

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"That 75 grand will hardly make up what she lost when out of work sick as they loose wages when out after 12,weeks even if injured at work

Ah to be fair,

I don't know the stage she's at in her career so don't know her pay scale but starting is approx 28k and capped at 47k after 19yrs service last time I checked.

This was all pre 2008 recruitment embargo changes blah blah blah.

So split it down the middle and say she's on 35k??

NO WAY a broken nose keeps you off work for two years?

So 75k isn't a bad deal lok"

And how much was surgery? All her medical expenses? Counselling? All adds up quite quickly I'm sure

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"That 75 grand will hardly make up what she lost when out of work sick as they loose wages when out after 12,weeks even if injured at work

Ah to be fair,

I don't know the stage she's at in her career so don't know her pay scale but starting is approx 28k and capped at 47k after 19yrs service last time I checked.

This was all pre 2008 recruitment embargo changes blah blah blah.

So split it down the middle and say she's on 35k??

NO WAY a broken nose keeps you off work for two years?

So 75k isn't a bad deal lok"
well she needed reconstruction of nose with rhinoplasty surgery which can take longer to heal also ptsd which never goes then Dr and possibly hospital bills which may not be covered fully by health insurance so not a lot of change left out of her 75k . A court case in local paper few weeks ago showed a guy unemployed fell d*unk on a pubs wet floor got 50k for discloated shoulder so in fairness that's crazy

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"That 75 grand will hardly make up what she lost when out of work sick as they loose wages when out after 12,weeks even if injured at work

Ah to be fair,

I don't know the stage she's at in her career so don't know her pay scale but starting is approx 28k and capped at 47k after 19yrs service last time I checked.

This was all pre 2008 recruitment embargo changes blah blah blah.

So split it down the middle and say she's on 35k??

NO WAY a broken nose keeps you off work for two years?

So 75k isn't a bad deal lokwell she needed reconstruction of nose with rhinoplasty surgery which can take longer to heal also ptsd which never goes then Dr and possibly hospital bills which may not be covered fully by health insurance so not a lot of change left out of her 75k . A court case in local paper few weeks ago showed a guy unemployed fell d*unk on a pubs wet floor got 50k for discloated shoulder so in fairness that's crazy "

I'll start by saying I'm in that members corner.

I think if she suffered those injuries and she's loosing money from wages and promotion difficulties etc then more power to her.

But the ptsd doesn't sit well with me.

As posted before you need a mindset in the game.

I can understand being punched in the face can be VERY traumatic.

Hell I've had my nose broken twice in past (competing, not bar fights haha)

But post traumatic stress disorder from that?

I'm not convinced.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"That 75 grand will hardly make up what she lost when out of work sick as they loose wages when out after 12,weeks even if injured at work

Ah to be fair,

I don't know the stage she's at in her career so don't know her pay scale but starting is approx 28k and capped at 47k after 19yrs service last time I checked.

This was all pre 2008 recruitment embargo changes blah blah blah.

So split it down the middle and say she's on 35k??

NO WAY a broken nose keeps you off work for two years?

I'll start by saying I'm in that members corner.

I think if she suffered those injuries and she's loosing money from wages and promotion difficulties etc then more power to her.

But the ptsd doesn't sit well with me.

As posted before you need a mindset in the game.

I can understand being punched in the face can be VERY traumatic.

Hell I've had my nose broken twice in past (competing, not bar fights haha)

But post traumatic stress disorder from that?

I'm not convinced. "

Let's not forget that we live in a society where street violence against men is far more common - women simply don't expect to get punched in the face. So the psychological impact may potentially be greater on a woman - "fair" or not...

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By *eth TVTV/TS over a year ago

Mid Meath

She'd have to pay back to her employer any wages etc out of this settlement, as well as her other bills, expenses, fees and losses that have to be met when one is out of work for a long term. I've had nasal surgery before and as it is part of our aerobic system, yes it can take a lot of you both physically and psychologically. And this is before any trauma of the incident is taken into account, which is undoubtedly hard to deal with.

You seem to consider this award as if she's won the lotto or a prize or something; this is an unfair attitude to take.

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"That 75 grand will hardly make up what she lost when out of work sick as they loose wages when out after 12,weeks even if injured at work

Ah to be fair,

I don't know the stage she's at in her career so don't know her pay scale but starting is approx 28k and capped at 47k after 19yrs service last time I checked.

This was all pre 2008 recruitment embargo changes blah blah blah.

So split it down the middle and say she's on 35k??

NO WAY a broken nose keeps you off work for two years?

So 75k isn't a bad deal lok"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"That 75 grand will hardly make up what she lost when out of work sick as they loose wages when out after 12,weeks even if injured at work

Ah to be fair,

I don't know the stage she's at in her career so don't know her pay scale but starting is approx 28k and capped at 47k after 19yrs service last time I checked.

This was all pre 2008 recruitment embargo changes blah blah blah.

So split it down the middle and say she's on 35k??

NO WAY a broken nose keeps you off work for two years?

I'll start by saying I'm in that members corner.

I think if she suffered those injuries and she's loosing money from wages and promotion difficulties etc then more power to her.

But the ptsd doesn't sit well with me.

As posted before you need a mindset in the game.

I can understand being punched in the face can be VERY traumatic.

Hell I've had my nose broken twice in past (competing, not bar fights haha)

But post traumatic stress disorder from that?

I'm not convinced. "

I agree with you on some points others not so much

Being a member does involve some dangers whether its liked or not , my dad was a detective and often came home battered and bruised and he always maintained its part of the job . I think maybe in this case it was down to negligence ? Maybe it could have been avoided in some way and then she is well entitled to sue . as far as the PTSD it can happen to anyone and can happen over the most minor of things so maybe she is chancing her arm but there is a strong chance she is suffering ! X

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By *herry_bombshellWoman over a year ago

northside

Ohhhh ffs. Seriously? Suing the state????? She's a GUARD. It's a dangerous job. I'm sure she was made fully aware of what that job entailed and who she would potentially be dealing with. Who's she gonna sue next when she gets a hang nail, hse? When did this country become about it being everyone else's fault?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

ive worked in psychiatric services my entire adult life,as a civil servant in front line we know what to expect...Christ if id 75,000 for every punch id be bill gates

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By *isdirtygirlWoman over a year ago

Dublin

I dont get why "ah its only a broken nose" isnt trauma!Apart from the surgery and assault,her mental well being was brought into question and put under scrutiny. She suffered with flashbacks of the assault,her moods changed according to work colleagues,she herself admitted she was fearful and nervous doing her job where she hadnt been before and became hyper vigilant . When all of that is brought together about someone trying to protect the irish people,the court was right to award her the damages.id say the lady had lost all her confidence as a result and the assault happened in 2007 and finalised yesterday. I wish her well and hopefully she can put it behind her and move on.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

There have been people left mangled in horrific car crashes that were not of their fault and have received lot less.

The courts are biased towards Gardaí. They always get high payouts in compensation cases for miniscule injuries, and hardly ever get jailed in the rare cases in which they are found guilty of crimes they have been charged with.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I don't ever remember a case where a citizen sued the state and won for being hit by a Garda with a baton. The excessive force used by the Gardaí is never taken to task by the judiciary.

A lot of us seen the video of the man in a Wexford hotel being wrongfully and unnecessarily assaulted by a Garda with a baton a couple of months back. He has absolutely no chance of winning a compensation case against the Gardaí and the state.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't ever remember a case where a citizen sued the state and won for being hit by a Garda with a baton. The excessive force used by the Gardaí is never taken to task by the judiciary.

What in God's name has that got to do with this thread?

Open a new thread and fill your boots lol.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Ohhhh ffs. Seriously? Suing the state????? She's a GUARD. It's a dangerous job. I'm sure she was made fully aware of what that job entailed and who she would potentially be dealing with. Who's she gonna sue next when she gets a hang nail, hse? When did this country become about it being everyone else's fault?"

Yeah it's a dangerous job but I don't see the logic in saying it was her own fault and she knew what she was there to do.

She didn't sign up to get her boss broken all because there was a breakdown in communication?

SO if I was sent to a call and there was negligence involved and the relevant information wasn't passed onto me and I ended up going into a situation that could've been avoided had I been told what I needed to be told and requested back up. And I then got a broken nose, required surgery, lost out on tons of earnings.

Then fuck yes I'd Sue the state.

Your whole comment stinks of sheer ignorance and not thinking anything through.

I never said she's 100% right or 100% wrong.

I simply stated there's alot more to consider.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Did one of the State's other children cause the damage?

Yes, I think she has the right to not expect to be punched in the face at work & if she was, she has the right to claim compensation from the scumbag that did it. If the scumbag is a marginal member of society & has no way to pay this compensation, the State should pay it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I'm glad to see everyone's opinions, and would just like to reiterate that I don't condone violence against anybody, gardai or not.

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By *j47Man over a year ago

limerick

"Did one of the State's other children cause the damage?

But why should the state pay if the he can't if the employer is negligent then fine but no way should they pay because he can he needs to be charged with assualt and handed a respective sentence for this its then up to her to take a civil case against him and have it enforced

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By *isdirtygirlWoman over a year ago

Dublin

"Did one of the State's other children cause the damage?

Cj she took her case against the garda compensation act and not the actual state. Suing the state is just the terminology used.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't ever remember a case where a citizen sued the state and won for being hit by a Garda with a baton. The excessive force used by the Gardaí is never taken to task by the judiciary.

What in God's name has that got to do with this thread?

Open a new thread and fill your boots lol."

Assault by a Garda on a citizen is never upheld, be it criminally or in a civil case. However assault perpetrated against a Garda always results in conviction and a compensation payout for the poor unfortunate Garda.

Have you been eating a packet of bacon fries recently?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't ever remember a case where a citizen sued the state and won for being hit by a Garda with a baton. The excessive force used by the Gardaí is never taken to task by the judiciary.

What in God's name has that got to do with this thread?

Open a new thread and fill your boots lol.

Have you been eating a packet of bacon fries recently?

Err.

http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/garda-found-guilty-of-assaulting-a-d*unk-man-during-arrest-in-city-centre-31321333.html

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By *herry_bombshellWoman over a year ago

northside

Yeah it's a dangerous job but I don't see the logic in saying it was her own fault and she knew what she was there to do.

She didn't sign up to get her boss broken all because there was a breakdown in communication?

Then fuck yes I'd Sue the state.

Your whole comment stinks of sheer ignorance and not thinking anything through.

I never said she's 100% right or 100% wrong.

I simply stated there's alot more to consider."

No pal. I think it's your ignorance. Try rereading my comment. Nowhere did i mention you. Might want to be a bit less narsasistic . A guard get called to a scene or happens upon a scene they're meant to expect any outcome. INCLUDING violence of any type. This woman wants to sue over a broken nose and trauma? She's the last person I'd want to protect me (as is her job to protect and uphold the law). I'm guessing from your comment to me you're just as much as a crybaby as she is and no doubt you have your hand out for a pay day at any chance.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I have a brother a prison officer. What I am about to say is technically hearsay because I did not witness it happening. But one day he went in to work and overheard two fellow officers concocting a plan for one of them to be assaulted. He wanted Xmas off with pay and didn't want to use his holidays.

Point I'm trying to make is that the state is a soft touch in the context of claims like the subject of the OP. Judges (public c servants) adjucitating on monetary claims of Gardai/Army/Prison Services (Public Servants) possibly needs to be looked at.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't ever remember a case where a citizen sued the state and won for being hit by a Garda with a baton. The excessive force used by the Gardaí is never taken to task by the judiciary.

What in God's name has that got to do with this thread?

Open a new thread and fill your boots lol.

Have you been eating a packet of bacon fries recently?

Err.

http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/garda-found-guilty-of-assaulting-a-d*unk-man-during-arrest-in-city-centre-31321333.html"

Aaahhh you're so nice the way you do your best to show people how you're always so knowledgeable on every matter posted on the fab forums.

Then again Google is a tool which even the least intelligible of people can use.

Exactly how much was this person awarded in damages? Do yo know? Can you google and list any links where someone sued the Gardai/Min Jus/State due to assault by the Gardaí and received an appropriate amount?

Awaiting your informed response with so much anticipation!

;-)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Err.

http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/garda-found-guilty-of-assaulting-a-d*unk-man-during-arrest-in-city-centre-31321333.html

Aaahhh you're so nice the way you do your best to show people how you're always so knowledgeable on every matter posted on the fab forums.

Then again Google is a tool which even the least intelligible of people can use.

Awaiting your informed response with so much anticipation!

;-)"

Aww! It's nice that YOU make unfounded statements and present them as fact. Pity you didn't use Google before making that statement...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yeah it's a dangerous job but I don't see the logic in saying it was her own fault and she knew what she was there to do.

She didn't sign up to get her boss broken all because there was a breakdown in communication?

Then fuck yes I'd Sue the state.

Your whole comment stinks of sheer ignorance and not thinking anything through.

I never said she's 100% right or 100% wrong.

I simply stated there's alot more to consider.

Lol

Very mature and thought out response. And name calling too,

Unfortunately in this case I'm gonna refer to good ole Facebook memes:

Never argue with foolish people on the internet they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Peace

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By *isdirtygirlWoman over a year ago

Dublin

Yeah it's a dangerous job but I don't see the logic in saying it was her own fault and she knew what she was there to do.

She didn't sign up to get her boss broken all because there was a breakdown in communication?

Then fuck yes I'd Sue the state.

Your whole comment stinks of sheer ignorance and not thinking anything through.

I never said she's 100% right or 100% wrong.

I simply stated there's alot more to consider.

Where was she a cry baby when shes doing one of the most dangerous jobs out there along with fire and rescue and armed forces??. Us women screamed for equality in the workplace but yet you state youd not want her to protect you? Its her job to uphold the law,on that fact youre right, but its not her job to be assaulted or violated while trying to do her job.

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By *ukkakewhoreWoman over a year ago

Dublin

"Nobody expects to be punched at work. She sued her employers. I'd do the same if I was punched in work "

Yes but you wouldn't get €75,000!!

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By *ukkakewhoreWoman over a year ago

Dublin

"I don't ever remember a case where a citizen sued the state and won for being hit by a Garda with a baton. The excessive force used by the Gardaí is never taken to task by the judiciary.

What in God's name has that got to do with this thread?

Open a new thread and fill your boots lol."

It has everything to do with this thread!! Do you think Gardai are somehow above the ordinary citizen and deserve gross amounts of money when they are assaulted but the people they assault on a daily basis dont deserve the same??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't ever remember a case where a citizen sued the state and won for being hit by a Garda with a baton. The excessive force used by the Gardaí is never taken to task by the judiciary.

What in God's name has that got to do with this thread?

Open a new thread and fill your boots lol.

'The people they assault on a daily basis'

Someone clearly has an undeniable beef with the po po lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't ever remember a case where a citizen sued the state and won for being hit by a Garda with a baton. The excessive force used by the Gardaí is never taken to task by the judiciary.

What in God's name has that got to do with this thread?

Open a new thread and fill your boots lol.

Taking all the above into account i think it's fair to say that no guard signed up to go to work to be assaulted. Is 75k excessive?? Perhaps. Will it cover the cost of her injuries and loss of earnings? I certainly hope so. She's one of the many upholders of the law that in this day and age go to work without knowing what kind of danger they face. No im not a member myself but do at times work closely with them and understand the difficulties they face.

As for the comment about the guard beating the person with the baton, you can't condem an entire force for the behaviour of one individual. I find it funny how all these kind of videos showing guarda violence towards citizens always start just as the violence starts..... Did anybody see what happened before the video started?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't ever remember a case where a citizen sued the state and won for being hit by a Garda with a baton. The excessive force used by the Gardaí is never taken to task by the judiciary.

What in God's name has that got to do with this thread?

Open a new thread and fill your boots lol.

'The people they assault on a daily basis'

Someone clearly has an undeniable beef with the po po lol

Maybe you should make a report about all the people that you know who are assaulted by guards on a daily basis..... Get a grip.

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By *iktikiCouple over a year ago

cork

"I've just read in the paper that a garda sued the state for 75,000 because she received a punch in the face.

Now I'd never condone violence against anyone, but considering she signed up for a job where it's likely she would get punched, do you think it's fair for her to sue?? "

Why can they sue the state and not the towrag that slapped them ??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Why can they sue the state and not the towrag that slapped them ??

I assume for the same reason we have the motor insurance bureau. For people hit by uninsured drivers.

Cause I reckon that scumbag wouldn't have a hope in hell of paying her bills and costs even if it was court appointed

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By *igertigerCouple (MM) over a year ago

nr Letterkenny

"I think she was right. She had rhinoplasty surgery from a broken nose and suffered with PTSD as a result. On top of that it had serious effects on her career advancement to become a Sergeant. I doubt anyone who becomes a garda signs up to be assaulted or harmed by wanting to protect the irish people."

spot on.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

spot on."

I wonder who the Garda in this case will take a case against...

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/court-hears-dolores-oriordan-was-in-a-manic-mental-state-at-time-of-shannon-air-rage-incident-711756.html

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't ever remember a case where a citizen sued the state and won for being hit by a Garda with a baton. The excessive force used by the Gardaí is never taken to task by the judiciary.

Erm I know the gentleman who was assaulted. He received an apology from the guard and admitted himself that he acted a bit too aggressively towards the guard.

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By *isdirtygirlWoman over a year ago

Dublin

spot on.

I wonder who the Garda in this case will take a case against...

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/court-hears-dolores-oriordan-was-in-a-manic-mental-state-at-time-of-shannon-air-rage-incident-711756.html"

Probably against the garda compensation act also, as he was head butted into the face after arresting Dolores O Riordan.Ive no doubt in my mind theres hundreds of garda claims from injury while on duty. The case about the female garda was highlighted as it happened 8 years ago with conclusion drawn only yesterday.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't ever remember a case where a citizen sued the state and won for being hit by a Garda with a baton. The excessive force used by the Gardaí is never taken to task by the judiciary.

What in God's name has that got to do with this thread?

Open a new thread and fill your boots lol.

Completely agree with you. These videos and stories only ever seem to cover the actual incident but never what happened prior to it. I'll be the first to admit ive had run ins with complete asshole cops but I've always found that the vast majority of them are sound out. Like everyone in any profession public or private. You get assholes you get decent folks. They have more and more difficult jobs.

As for the cop in the story fair fucks to her. I haven't read the story but even a guard doesn't go to work at the start of their shift expecting to have the crap kicked out of them by some scumbag.

Tomcat

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

She was headbutted into the face whilst on duty in the Garda Station processing her soon to be attacker as a Prisoner. He had been arrested earlier & was brought to the Garda Station for processing. He dived over the counter at her - completely unprovoked!!

NO she did NOT sign up to be assaulted. NONE of the Gardai do.. but it CAN be an occupational hazard

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"But the job does come with dangerous territory, why join if not prepared for that? I just think 75g is too much of our taxpayers money. Paid leave while she mended would have sufficed in my eyes..

didn't realise she had surgery though, I just read she had a fractured nose and was too intimidated to move forward, in which case probably shouldn't have been a guard anyway? :/ "
Jimmy. .. what exactly DO you work at???

(or do you work at all.. )

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"ive worked in psychiatric services my entire adult life,as a civil servant in front line we know what to expect...Christ if id 75,000 for every punch id be bill gates

And did you ever get assaulted??? If you are only a Pen Pusher...I doubt it!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Sit back in your chair. . I'll plug it in for you!

BOOM

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By *exmark12Man over a year ago

Rathcoole/Roscommon/Mayo

how much did the corrective surgery Cost and loss of earnings while off not a lot of pleasure in a broken Jaw takes a lon time to recover

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