The definition of cheating is "to act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage" so basically if your partner knows about it and its swinging if she doesn't know then it's cheating... simples |
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"The definition of cheating is "to act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage" so basically if your partner knows about it and its swinging if she doesn't know then it's cheating... simples"
Good point, so if your partner knows, its not fucking around.
Why have a partner so if people are going to have open relationships? Why not have friends instead? |
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"No.
Blunt and too the point, I kik it. Are you married yourself?"
My situation is completely irrelevant fella. Cheating, as said above is spending intimate time with a person other than your partner without your partners knowledge. |
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"If you don't have your partners permission, yes.
Great, why have a partner?"
Sorry.. I don't understand. You are asking why someone wants to have a life partner, is that right? |
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"No.
Blunt and too the point, I kik it. Are you married yourself?
My situation is completely irrelevant fella. Cheating, as said above is spending intimate time with a person other than your partner without your partners knowledge."
Fair enough candy, thanks. |
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"If you don't have your partners permission, yes.
Great, why have a partner?
Sorry.. I don't understand. You are asking why someone wants to have a life partner, is that right? "
Yes, exactly. If the life partner does not meet expectations, why have one? |
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Seems like you wanted to ask one question but asked another.
Swinging wouldn't be classed as cheating. Original post answered.
If you want to go into different scenarios about how it could become cheating. Or why people would cheat, that a different discussion. |
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" If the life partner does not meet expectations, why have one?"
It's difficult to have a threesome or an orgy only with your partner. Just because people are committed to each other, does't mean they cannot explore their sexuality further, beyond the 1:1 situation.
I would imagine that for people in a relationship that would like to invite others to their sex life, if the partner is happy to join in the journey of exploring how sex can be amazing with more people, it is truly then that such partner meets their expectations. |
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OP is 5 weeks in the site, and he is asking this question, which when answered he questions people relationships..
Anyone experienced would have enough cop on not to go down that route.
My advice to the OP is to leave this topic well enough alone and to try and have some fun.. |
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" If the life partner does not meet expectations, why have one?
It's difficult to have a threesome or an orgy only with your partner. Just because people are committed to each other, does't mean they cannot explore their sexuality further, beyond the 1:1 situation.
I would imagine that for people in a relationship that would like to invite others to their sex life, if the partner is happy to join in the journey of exploring how sex can be amazing with more people, it is truly then that such partner meets their expectations."
Thanks lad, I would agree, my own opinion is that as a species we are designed to shag as much as possible. |
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"OP is 5 weeks in the site, and he is asking this question, which when answered he questions people relationships..
Anyone experienced would have enough cop on not to go down that route.
Thanks for the advise, just passing time waiting for the right lady to come along.
My advice to the OP is to leave this topic well enough alone and to try and have some fun.."
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"If you don't have your partners permission, yes.
Great, why have a partner?
Sorry.. I don't understand. You are asking why someone wants to have a life partner, is that right?
Yes, exactly. If the life partner does not meet expectations, why have one?"
Swinging is often a group activity. It's something you can do WITH your partner, rather than behind their back. It can enrich a relationship.
Remember there are a multitude of reasons why a couple might swing, and there are situations that are impossible with only 2 people. DP, orgies, threesome etc etc.
You are also not considering that there is a lot more to a committed relationship than sex, and therefore there are many reasons to be in a relationship that are a lot more important than a quick fuck.
Swinging can be complimentary to a happy relationship, not contrary to one. It doesn't mean for a second that your partner doesn't meet expectations.
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"If you don't have your partners permission, yes.
Great, why have a partner?
Sorry.. I don't understand. You are asking why someone wants to have a life partner, is that right?
Yes, exactly. If the life partner does not meet expectations, why have one?
Swinging is often a group activity. It's something you can do WITH your partner, rather than behind their back. It can enrich a relationship.
Remember there are a multitude of reasons why a couple might swing, and there are situations that are impossible with only 2 people. DP, orgies, threesome etc etc.
You are also not considering that there is a lot more to a committed relationship than sex, and therefore there are many reasons to be in a relationship that are a lot more important than a quick fuck.
Swinging can be complimentary to a happy relationship, not contrary to one. It doesn't mean for a second that your partner doesn't meet expectations.
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I agree with you in the most part but I would not classify a person as commited if they are fucking someone else. Its a contradiction. |
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"If you don't have your partners permission, yes.
Great, why have a partner?
Sorry.. I don't understand. You are asking why someone wants to have a life partner, is that right?
Yes, exactly. If the life partner does not meet expectations, why have one?
Swinging is often a group activity. It's something you can do WITH your partner, rather than behind their back. It can enrich a relationship.
Remember there are a multitude of reasons why a couple might swing, and there are situations that are impossible with only 2 people. DP, orgies, threesome etc etc.
You are also not considering that there is a lot more to a committed relationship than sex, and therefore there are many reasons to be in a relationship that are a lot more important than a quick fuck.
Swinging can be complimentary to a happy relationship, not contrary to one. It doesn't mean for a second that your partner doesn't meet expectations.
I agree with you in the most part but I would not classify a person as commited if they are fucking someone else. Its a contradiction."
Rubbish. People make a commitment to each other and agree what the future holds for them. If they agree with each other to swing then they are not breaking any kind of commitment. You are trying to push YOUR idea of a relationship on other people. In my book a commitment is whatever is agreed upon by the people involved. |
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"If you don't have your partners permission, yes.
Great, why have a partner?
Sorry.. I don't understand. You are asking why someone wants to have a life partner, is that right?
Yes, exactly. If the life partner does not meet expectations, why have one?
Swinging is often a group activity. It's something you can do WITH your partner, rather than behind their back. It can enrich a relationship.
Remember there are a multitude of reasons why a couple might swing, and there are situations that are impossible with only 2 people. DP, orgies, threesome etc etc.
You are also not considering that there is a lot more to a committed relationship than sex, and therefore there are many reasons to be in a relationship that are a lot more important than a quick fuck.
Swinging can be complimentary to a happy relationship, not contrary to one. It doesn't mean for a second that your partner doesn't meet expectations.
I agree with you in the most part but I would not classify a person as commited if they are fucking someone else. Its a contradiction.
Rubbish. People make a commitment to each other and agree what the future holds for them. If they agree with each other to swing then they are not breaking any kind of commitment. You are trying to push YOUR idea of a relationship on other people. In my book a commitment is whatever is agreed upon by the people involved. "
Maybe read the book thread to get the measure of the op  ) |
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"If you don't have your partners permission, yes.
Great, why have a partner?
Sorry.. I don't understand. You are asking why someone wants to have a life partner, is that right?
Yes, exactly. If the life partner does not meet expectations, why have one?
Swinging is often a group activity. It's something you can do WITH your partner, rather than behind their back. It can enrich a relationship.
Remember there are a multitude of reasons why a couple might swing, and there are situations that are impossible with only 2 people. DP, orgies, threesome etc etc.
You are also not considering that there is a lot more to a committed relationship than sex, and therefore there are many reasons to be in a relationship that are a lot more important than a quick fuck.
Swinging can be complimentary to a happy relationship, not contrary to one. It doesn't mean for a second that your partner doesn't meet expectations.
I agree with you in the most part but I would not classify a person as commited if they are fucking someone else. Its a contradiction.
Rubbish. People make a commitment to each other and agree what the future holds for them. If they agree with each other to swing then they are not breaking any kind of commitment. You are trying to push YOUR idea of a relationship on other people. In my book a commitment is whatever is agreed upon by the people involved. "
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"If you don't have your partners permission, yes.
Great, why have a partner?
Sorry.. I don't understand. You are asking why someone wants to have a life partner, is that right?
Yes, exactly. If the life partner does not meet expectations, why have one?
Swinging is often a group activity. It's something you can do WITH your partner, rather than behind their back. It can enrich a relationship.
Remember there are a multitude of reasons why a couple might swing, and there are situations that are impossible with only 2 people. DP, orgies, threesome etc etc.
You are also not considering that there is a lot more to a committed relationship than sex, and therefore there are many reasons to be in a relationship that are a lot more important than a quick fuck.
Swinging can be complimentary to a happy relationship, not contrary to one. It doesn't mean for a second that your partner doesn't meet expectations.
I agree with you in the most part but I would not classify a person as commited if they are fucking someone else. Its a contradiction.
Rubbish. People make a commitment to each other and agree what the future holds for them. If they agree with each other to swing then they are not breaking any kind of commitment. You are trying to push YOUR idea of a relationship on other people. In my book a commitment is whatever is agreed upon by the people involved. "
No, not trying to push my opinion at all. Just sharing an my opinion. Whether it is rubbish or not is of no consequence as that is your opinion and that is pushing. I would never expect to change peoples minds because I don't care enough about them to do that. |
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"If you don't have your partners permission, yes.
Great, why have a partner?
Sorry.. I don't understand. You are asking why someone wants to have a life partner, is that right?
Yes, exactly. If the life partner does not meet expectations, why have one?
Swinging is often a group activity. It's something you can do WITH your partner, rather than behind their back. It can enrich a relationship.
Remember there are a multitude of reasons why a couple might swing, and there are situations that are impossible with only 2 people. DP, orgies, threesome etc etc.
You are also not considering that there is a lot more to a committed relationship than sex, and therefore there are many reasons to be in a relationship that are a lot more important than a quick fuck.
Swinging can be complimentary to a happy relationship, not contrary to one. It doesn't mean for a second that your partner doesn't meet expectations.
I agree with you in the most part but I would not classify a person as commited if they are fucking someone else. Its a contradiction.
Rubbish. People make a commitment to each other and agree what the future holds for them. If they agree with each other to swing then they are not breaking any kind of commitment. You are trying to push YOUR idea of a relationship on other people. In my book a commitment is whatever is agreed upon by the people involved.
Maybe read the book thread to get the measure of the op ) "
And here was me thinking you liked me since you pm'd me. |
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No, not trying to push my opinion at all. Just sharing an my opinion. Whether it is rubbish or not is of no consequence as that is your opinion and that is pushing. I would never expect to change peoples minds because I don't care enough about them to do that."
You may not be pushing your opinions on others but it's interesting why would question the relationships of swingers on forum on a site for swingers? |
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You are trying to suggest that swinging couples are not committed to each other.. because it doesn't fit with your idea of a committed relationship. You are judging us by the ideas you have of what relationships should be. What you should be doing is understanding that a commitment is an agreement by both parties to act in an agreed manner. |
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"If you don't have your partners permission, yes.
Great, why have a partner?
Sorry.. I don't understand. You are asking why someone wants to have a life partner, is that right?
Yes, exactly. If the life partner does not meet expectations, why have one?
Swinging is often a group activity. It's something you can do WITH your partner, rather than behind their back. It can enrich a relationship.
Remember there are a multitude of reasons why a couple might swing, and there are situations that are impossible with only 2 people. DP, orgies, threesome etc etc.
You are also not considering that there is a lot more to a committed relationship than sex, and therefore there are many reasons to be in a relationship that are a lot more important than a quick fuck.
Swinging can be complimentary to a happy relationship, not contrary to one. It doesn't mean for a second that your partner doesn't meet expectations.
I agree with you in the most part but I would not classify a person as commited if they are fucking someone else. Its a contradiction.
Rubbish. People make a commitment to each other and agree what the future holds for them. If they agree with each other to swing then they are not breaking any kind of commitment. You are trying to push YOUR idea of a relationship on other people. In my book a commitment is whatever is agreed upon by the people involved.
Maybe read the book thread to get the measure of the op )
And here was me thinking you liked me since you pm'd me."
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Well for what it's worth, and I'm sure the OP won't care, but we are blocking him and putting a private note on his profile to never go near him.
Any person who has the audacity to question our commitment to each other is not ever going to get an opportunity to be with Mrs k. The cheek of you!!!!!!
You silly immature little boy.... |
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"If you don't have your partners permission, yes.
Great, why have a partner?
Sorry.. I don't understand. You are asking why someone wants to have a life partner, is that right?
Yes, exactly. If the life partner does not meet expectations, why have one?
Swinging is often a group activity. It's something you can do WITH your partner, rather than behind their back. It can enrich a relationship.
Remember there are a multitude of reasons why a couple might swing, and there are situations that are impossible with only 2 people. DP, orgies, threesome etc etc.
You are also not considering that there is a lot more to a committed relationship than sex, and therefore there are many reasons to be in a relationship that are a lot more important than a quick fuck.
Swinging can be complimentary to a happy relationship, not contrary to one. It doesn't mean for a second that your partner doesn't meet expectations.
I agree with you in the most part but I would not classify a person as commited if they are fucking someone else. Its a contradiction."
......you have a lot to learn about swinging buddy.......for most cpls....well I imagine for most cpls...the idea of seeing your partner in a group scenario. ..is a big part of the thrill
....your narrow minded attitude to swinging/swingers....wont win you many medals on here.....but good luck anyway. . |
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"You are trying to suggest that swinging couples are not committed to each other.. because it doesn't fit with your idea of a committed relationship. You are judging us by the ideas you have of what relationships should be. What you should be doing is understanding that a commitment is an agreement by both parties to act in an agreed manner. "
I did not suggest anything. There is a fundamental difference between a suggestion and an opinion. Mine is an opinion and yours is leading which is a form of provocation, commonly known as pushing. |
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"For the record we are 23 years together, think that shows a certain level of commitment..
Are Yee not happy together sexually?"
........ffs masters and Johnston. ... |
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"If you don't have your partners permission, yes.
Great, why have a partner?
Sorry.. I don't understand. You are asking why someone wants to have a life partner, is that right?
Yes, exactly. If the life partner does not meet expectations, why have one?
Swinging is often a group activity. It's something you can do WITH your partner, rather than behind their back. It can enrich a relationship.
Remember there are a multitude of reasons why a couple might swing, and there are situations that are impossible with only 2 people. DP, orgies, threesome etc etc.
You are also not considering that there is a lot more to a committed relationship than sex, and therefore there are many reasons to be in a relationship that are a lot more important than a quick fuck.
Swinging can be complimentary to a happy relationship, not contrary to one. It doesn't mean for a second that your partner doesn't meet expectations.
I agree with you in the most part but I would not classify a person as commited if they are fucking someone else. Its a contradiction.......you have a lot to learn about swinging buddy.......for most cpls....well I imagine for most cpls...the idea of seeing your partner in a group scenario. ..is a big part of the thrill
....your narrow minded attitude to swinging/swingers....wont win you many medals on here.....but good luck anyway. . "
Thanks, I know I have alot to learn, that's why I'm asking the question. I am not trying to win medals. I don't know what medals have to do with it really. Do Yee have competitions or something like that. |
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"For the record we are 23 years together, think that shows a certain level of commitment..
Are Yee not happy together sexually?........ffs masters and Johnston. ... "
You did not answer the question? |
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"If you don't have your partners permission, yes.
Great, why have a partner?
Sorry.. I don't understand. You are asking why someone wants to have a life partner, is that right?
Yes, exactly. If the life partner does not meet expectations, why have one?
Swinging is often a group activity. It's something you can do WITH your partner, rather than behind their back. It can enrich a relationship.
Remember there are a multitude of reasons why a couple might swing, and there are situations that are impossible with only 2 people. DP, orgies, threesome etc etc.
You are also not considering that there is a lot more to a committed relationship than sex, and therefore there are many reasons to be in a relationship that are a lot more important than a quick fuck.
Swinging can be complimentary to a happy relationship, not contrary to one. It doesn't mean for a second that your partner doesn't meet expectations.
I agree with you in the most part but I would not classify a person as commited if they are fucking someone else. Its a contradiction.......you have a lot to learn about swinging buddy.......for most cpls....well I imagine for most cpls...the idea of seeing your partner in a group scenario. ..is a big part of the thrill
....your narrow minded attitude to swinging/swingers....wont win you many medals on here.....but good luck anyway. .
Thanks, I know I have alot to learn, that's why I'm asking the question. I am not trying to win medals. I don't know what medals have to do with it really. Do Yee have competitions or something like that."
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Just read your profile OP and it seems you don't care who you meet or their circumstances,yet here on a public forum you decide to debate something that won't win you any fans,I also see from your profile you were married for 15 yrs so mabye that's why your so cynical but cheating to some people can be in a kiss/text/conversation not a fuck,anything done behind a loved one that your in a committed relationship withs back I would consider as cheating!!!
Just sex isn't cheating... |
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Its not simple really. In my case I have a partner of many years with whom I'm blissfully happy. Nonetheless we have different sexual urges and inclinations. Coming into middle/later life libidos take different directions. My inclination is into group/dogging/nsa/voyeurism/etc. Hers is more into the occasional, very enjoyable, physical bit every couple of months. Lots of great cuddles in between. Once I don't flaunt it I am allowed adventures.
I'm not sure if that is cheating |
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"You are trying to suggest that swinging couples are not committed to each other.. because it doesn't fit with your idea of a committed relationship. You are judging us by the ideas you have of what relationships should be. What you should be doing is understanding that a commitment is an agreement by both parties to act in an agreed manner.
I did not suggest anything. There is a fundamental difference between a suggestion and an opinion. Mine is an opinion and yours is leading which is a form of provocation, commonly known as pushing."
I love it when people address the style and phrasing of my posts rather than the content. It's like waving a little white flag. |
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"You are trying to suggest that swinging couples are not committed to each other.. because it doesn't fit with your idea of a committed relationship. You are judging us by the ideas you have of what relationships should be. What you should be doing is understanding that a commitment is an agreement by both parties to act in an agreed manner.
I did not suggest anything. There is a fundamental difference between a suggestion and an opinion. Mine is an opinion and yours is leading which is a form of provocation, commonly known as pushing.
I love it when people address the style and phrasing of my posts rather than the content. It's like waving a little white flag. "
Because they never had a argument in the first place? |
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"You are trying to suggest that swinging couples are not committed to each other.. because it doesn't fit with your idea of a committed relationship. You are judging us by the ideas you have of what relationships should be. What you should be doing is understanding that a commitment is an agreement by both parties to act in an agreed manner.
I did not suggest anything. There is a fundamental difference between a suggestion and an opinion. Mine is an opinion and yours is leading which is a form of provocation, commonly known as pushing.
I love it when people address the style and phrasing of my posts rather than the content. It's like waving a little white flag. "
Forgive me for saying this but you don't do big words do you? I say this because once again you have taken things out of context.....lol |
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"You are trying to suggest that swinging couples are not committed to each other.. because it doesn't fit with your idea of a committed relationship. You are judging us by the ideas you have of what relationships should be. What you should be doing is understanding that a commitment is an agreement by both parties to act in an agreed manner.
I did not suggest anything. There is a fundamental difference between a suggestion and an opinion. Mine is an opinion and yours is leading which is a form of provocation, commonly known as pushing.
I love it when people address the style and phrasing of my posts rather than the content. It's like waving a little white flag.
Because they never had a argument in the first place?"
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"You are trying to suggest that swinging couples are not committed to each other.. because it doesn't fit with your idea of a committed relationship. You are judging us by the ideas you have of what relationships should be. What you should be doing is understanding that a commitment is an agreement by both parties to act in an agreed manner.
I did not suggest anything. There is a fundamental difference between a suggestion and an opinion. Mine is an opinion and yours is leading which is a form of provocation, commonly known as pushing.
I love it when people address the style and phrasing of my posts rather than the content. It's like waving a little white flag.
Forgive me for saying this but you don't do big words do you? I say this because once again you have taken things out of context.....lol"
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"You are trying to suggest that swinging couples are not committed to each other.. because it doesn't fit with your idea of a committed relationship. You are judging us by the ideas you have of what relationships should be. What you should be doing is understanding that a commitment is an agreement by both parties to act in an agreed manner.
I did not suggest anything. There is a fundamental difference between a suggestion and an opinion. Mine is an opinion and yours is leading which is a form of provocation, commonly known as pushing.
I love it when people address the style and phrasing of my posts rather than the content. It's like waving a little white flag.
Forgive me for saying this but you don't do big words do you? I say this because once again you have taken things out of context.....lol"
Oh sorry. Next time perhaps try trolling at the kiddies table. The grownup table appears to be too much for you. |
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Oh jesus your at it again...get back in your box!!!
I envy the couples on here to be honest! ! shows what a great and strong relationship they have and the trust they have in each other in my opinion  |
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"Any relation to Snickers by any chance??"
To be fair to Snickers he came across as being genuinely incapable of understanding the swinger mindset.lol  This is just a poor attempt at trolling |
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"Any relation to Snickers by any chance??To be fair to Snickers he came across as being genuinely incapable of understanding the swinger mindset.lol This is just a poor attempt at trolling "
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"Well for what it's worth, and I'm sure the OP won't care, but we are blocking him and putting a private note on his profile to never go near him.
Any person who has the audacity to question our commitment to each other is not ever going to get an opportunity to be with Mrs k. The cheek of you!!!!!!
You silly immature little boy...."
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No, not trying to push my opinion at all. Just sharing an my opinion. Whether it is rubbish or not is of no consequence as that is your opinion and that is pushing. I would never expect to change peoples minds because I don't care enough about them to do that.
You may not be pushing your opinions on others but it's interesting why would question the relationships of swingers on forum on a site for swingers? "
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"You are trying to suggest that swinging couples are not committed to each other.. because it doesn't fit with your idea of a committed relationship. You are judging us by the ideas you have of what relationships should be. What you should be doing is understanding that a commitment is an agreement by both parties to act in an agreed manner. "
How can you be committed if you are shagging some one else.
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If you do something behind your partner's back, that is cheating. My partner and I are on this site to have a good time with other people. If he were to go out at the weekend and have sex with someone and not tell me, that is cheating but if we both go out and are with a couple together, then it's consensual group sex. We are very committed to each other and we still have very strict rules in place about what is and isn't considered cheating. That's what swinging is for couples, is it not? |
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We are 30 years married and totally committed to each other! This is just a bit of fun which we both enjoy occasionally. It has only enhanced our lives together. As long as everyone is open and honest with no deceit, it's not cheating. |
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By *aid backMan
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"If you do something behind your partner's back, that is cheating. My partner and I are on this site to have a good time with other people. If he were to go out at the weekend and have sex with someone and not tell me, that is cheating but if we both go out and are with a couple together, then it's consensual group sex. We are very committed to each other and we still have very strict rules in place about what is and isn't considered cheating. That's what swinging is for couples, is it not? "
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"We are 30 years married and totally committed to each other! This is just a bit of fun which we both enjoy occasionally. It has only enhanced our lives together. As long as everyone is open and honest with no deceit, it's not cheating."
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