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By *illow1972 OP   Man  over a year ago

Naas

I've been in this "lifestyle" for nigh on 10 years, both as part of a couple and as a single. Both on this site and others. I've had and continue to have a great time.

Quiet a lot of posts appear here with folk saying " I could never go back to vanilla again" and I totally and absolutely respect their position.

I've been to lots of parties. I've had ladies sucking out of me who I haven't even spoken to. I've had sex with ladies who I haven't even spoken to and vice versa. It was and still is a real kick for me. I love it.

I don't tend to do it too often as I still see it as a fantasy that I can realise, on occasion. I don't want to do it too often as it may then become the norm. That is what scares me.

I don't want it to become the norm as eventually, hopefully I will meet a lady, maybe a vanilla lady. She will not understand my lifestyle and I want to be in a position that I can walk away from this.

Can we singles get too immersed in this? Can we see it as the norm? And if so, what are we leading ourselves into?

I don't want to be 60, single and logging into a site where I am seen as being surplus to requirements.

Eventually I want to hold someones hand, kiss their cheek and cuddle them and not want to let go.

Until then, I shall continue here and continue to enjoy all the fruits that Fab may present to me.

Ladies and gents, please proffer your considered opinion.

Willow

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By *ichael McCarthyMan  over a year ago

Lucan

Meh

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I would agree with you willow. When I first joined I thought this place was the answer to everything. I was always afraid of having to commit to one guy the rest of my life and I imagied swinging was the perfect answer. Since joining I had a relationship with a fabber and the reality was when he did have a meet it was hard. I was jealous and insecure and IT felt wrong. I don't want my future life partner to want to share me with other men and I don't want to share him with other women.

More power and respect to the couples that can. It takes an absolute and complete love and trust in each other and it's really a sign of strength in a relationship. I admire those that do. I just don't think I can

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

A very interesting topic. We came to swinging as a couple so haven't ever experienced the single side. I totally get the thrill and excitement of new and varied partners, but if it comes at the price of more meaningful relationships then it's not worth it.

When a couple comes to swinging it is a shared learning experience. A couple grows and learns in swinging (as long as they have solid foundations). They already have the love and companionship that many singles are looking for.

When a single comes to this alone it's a different story altogether as any prospective relationship partners are going to be in a totally different headspace. They haven't had the shared experiences and the growth and learning together that comes from couples swinging.

It's a difficult position to be in.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Like you willow this for me is a bit of excitement, I love and enjoy it, but if I meet the right person that I know I want in my life and him me, I'd gladly walk away from this

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm not sure if I would want to give up my single life/fab life to be honest I never really was a relationship type, been there didn't particularly like it burnt the tshirt. But it's the case with everything else, if you're content with what you're doing you tend to stay at it, for the moment and the foreseeable that's where I'm at, when or if that changes then I'll have a rethink

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"A very interesting topic. We came to swinging as a couple so haven't ever experienced the single side. I totally get the thrill and excitement of new and varied partners, but if it comes at the price of more meaningful relationships then it's not worth it.

When a couple comes to swinging it is a shared learning experience. A couple grows and learns in swinging (as long as they have solid foundations). They already have the love and companionship that many singles are looking for.

When a single comes to this alone it's a different story altogether as any prospective relationship partners are going to be in a totally different headspace. They haven't had the shared experiences and the growth and learning together that comes from couples swinging.

It's a difficult position to be in.

"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

After what as happend here over the last few days i would happily go back to the non swinging way of life with no problem i think swing is fun but it has it downfalls to.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm here for fun, couples women M&G etc but what I could never do, is get into a serious relationship with a girl I love and go swinging with her! I would get no pleasure whatsoever in other men having sex with her but each to there own and Good luck to people who enjoy it

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By *aid backMan  over a year ago

by a lake with my rod out

ve also been in swinging relationships too one for 5 years and been a single on the scene for a good few years too and if I met a woman that didnt swing then id leave it all behind its not the be all and end all to life. there are too many guys on here looking for a woman to cpl up with just so they can fuck more women which defeats the point of starting a relationship in the first place. id rather be a single male than fuck with someones emotions just so I could fuck more women.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm here for fun, couples women M&G etc but what I could never do, is get into a serious relationship with a girl I love and go swinging with her! I would get no pleasure whatsoever in other men having sex with her but each to there own and Good luck to people who enjoy it "

So you're more than happy to play with others toys but you wouldn't share your own...You just sank your battleship.

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By *etmebeurfantasyWoman  over a year ago

My town

I have never thought about it.

I think if I met someone I would give the be relationship a go.

I think it's hard for someone non swing related to understand the lifestyle. So I would give it my all.

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By *j47Man  over a year ago

limerick


"I'm here for fun, couples women M&G etc but what I could never do, is get into a serious relationship with a girl I love and go swinging with her! I would get no pleasure whatsoever in other men having sex with her but each to there own and Good luck to people who enjoy it

So you're more than happy to play with others toys but you wouldn't share your own...You just sank your battleship."

Snickers all out

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm here for fun, couples women M&G etc but what I could never do, is get into a serious relationship with a girl I love and go swinging with her! I would get no pleasure whatsoever in other men having sex with her but each to there own and Good luck to people who enjoy it

So you're more than happy to play with others toys but you wouldn't share your own...You just sank your battleship.

Snickers all out "

You reckon CJ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I have never thought about it.

I think if I met someone I would give the be relationship a go.

I think it's hard for someone non swing related to understand the lifestyle. So I would give it my all. "

But would the delights of a swinging lifestyle before you met the partner be too tempting to resist.

Does swinging ruin singles with regards normal monogamous relationships?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm here for fun, couples women M&G etc but what I could never do, is get into a serious relationship with a girl I love and go swinging with her! I would get no pleasure whatsoever in other men having sex with her but each to there own and Good luck to people who enjoy it "

That's understandable but it does seem a bit had to justify morally.

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By *etmebeurfantasyWoman  over a year ago

My town


"I have never thought about it.

I think if I met someone I would give the be relationship a go.

I think it's hard for someone non swing related to understand the lifestyle. So I would give it my all.

But would the delights of a swinging lifestyle before you met the partner be too tempting to resist.

Does swinging ruin singles with regards normal monogamous relationships? "

that's the thing I would find it very hard and I can say that even though I'm single. But when you start a relationship you have to make it work and for Me I would try my hardest to make relationship work .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm here for fun, couples women M&G etc but what I could never do, is get into a serious relationship with a girl I love and go swinging with her! I would get no pleasure whatsoever in other men having sex with her but each to there own and Good luck to people who enjoy it

So you're more than happy to play with others toys but you wouldn't share your own...You just sank your battleship."

that has nothing got to do with anything! So u shouldn't be here as a single guy if ud have sex with a female in a relationship but wouldn't let someone fuck your gf if you had one? There two completely diff situations! The difference is if I was in a loving relationship I wouldn't be here, simple as that but I would never judge anyone who is! As I said each to their own

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By *aid backMan  over a year ago

by a lake with my rod out


"I'm here for fun, couples women M&G etc but what I could never do, is get into a serious relationship with a girl I love and go swinging with her! I would get no pleasure whatsoever in other men having sex with her but each to there own and Good luck to people who enjoy it

So you're more than happy to play with others toys but you wouldn't share your own...You just sank your battleship.that has nothing got to do with anything! So u shouldn't be here as a single guy if ud have sex with a female in a relationship but wouldn't let someone fuck your gf if you had one? There two completely diff situations! The difference is if I was in a loving relationship I wouldn't be here, simple as that but I would never judge anyone who is! As I said each to their own "

so the couples here dont have loving relationships lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm here for fun, couples women M&G etc but what I could never do, is get into a serious relationship with a girl I love and go swinging with her! I would get no pleasure whatsoever in other men having sex with her but each to there own and Good luck to people who enjoy it

So you're more than happy to play with others toys but you wouldn't share your own...You just sank your battleship.that has nothing got to do with anything! So u shouldn't be here as a single guy if ud have sex with a female in a relationship but wouldn't let someone fuck your gf if you had one? There two completely diff situations! The difference is if I was in a loving relationship I wouldn't be here, simple as that but I would never judge anyone who is! As I said each to their own

so the couples here dont have loving relationships lol"

never said that! I said I wouldn't get enjoyment out of men fucking my gf if I was in a relationship!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm here for fun, couples women M&G etc but what I could never do, is get into a serious relationship with a girl I love and go swinging with her! I would get no pleasure whatsoever in other men having sex with her but each to there own and Good luck to people who enjoy it

So you're more than happy to play with others toys but you wouldn't share your own...You just sank your battleship.that has nothing got to do with anything! So u shouldn't be here as a single guy if ud have sex with a female in a relationship but wouldn't let someone fuck your gf if you had one? There two completely diff situations! The difference is if I was in a loving relationship I wouldn't be here, simple as that but I would never judge anyone who is! As I said each to their own "

Pahahaha! You're going to be very popular here.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm here for fun, couples women M&G etc but what I could never do, is get into a serious relationship with a girl I love and go swinging with her! I would get no pleasure whatsoever in other men having sex with her but each to there own and Good luck to people who enjoy it

So you're more than happy to play with others toys but you wouldn't share your own...You just sank your battleship.that has nothing got to do with anything! So u shouldn't be here as a single guy if ud have sex with a female in a relationship but wouldn't let someone fuck your gf if you had one? There two completely diff situations! The difference is if I was in a loving relationship I wouldn't be here, simple as that but I would never judge anyone who is! As I said each to their own "

No one is saying you shouldn't be here. It's just quite unbalanced. You are happy to take, but not to give. I wouldn't judge you on that, but if everyone had that attitude the scene wouldn't exist.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm here for fun, couples women M&G etc but what I could never do, is get into a serious relationship with a girl I love and go swinging with her! I would get no pleasure whatsoever in other men having sex with her but each to there own and Good luck to people who enjoy it

So you're more than happy to play with others toys but you wouldn't share your own...You just sank your battleship.that has nothing got to do with anything! So u shouldn't be here as a single guy if ud have sex with a female in a relationship but wouldn't let someone fuck your gf if you had one? There two completely diff situations! The difference is if I was in a loving relationship I wouldn't be here, simple as that but I would never judge anyone who is! As I said each to their own

No one is saying you shouldn't be here. It's just quite unbalanced. You are happy to take, but not to give. I wouldn't judge you on that, but if everyone had that attitude the scene wouldn't exist. "

the point is I don't have to give! I'm not in a relationship! If I was I wouldn't be here

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By *aid backMan  over a year ago

by a lake with my rod out

so you are just here for an easy ride untill you find a woman ? what if you met a woman who wanted to swing would you dump her ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"so you are just here for an easy ride untill you find a woman ? what if you met a woman who wanted to swing would you dump her ? "
i wouldn't be in a serious relationship with a woman who I loved, who was into swinging

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm here for fun, couples women M&G etc but what I could never do, is get into a serious relationship with a girl I love and go swinging with her! I would get no pleasure whatsoever in other men having sex with her but each to there own and Good luck to people who enjoy it

So you're more than happy to play with others toys but you wouldn't share your own...You just sank your battleship.that has nothing got to do with anything! So u shouldn't be here as a single guy if ud have sex with a female in a relationship but wouldn't let someone fuck your gf if you had one? There two completely diff situations! The difference is if I was in a loving relationship I wouldn't be here, simple as that but I would never judge anyone who is! As I said each to their own "

2 different situations, but one attitude. Someone else's partner is ok for you to mess around with but there's no way you'd let someone else mess around with your partner(did I get that right?).

Well as part of a loving couple who enjoy sharing intimate fun with others, anyone with your attitude wouldn't be welcome.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Hmmmm something to think about but for now happy the way things are

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm here for fun, couples women M&G etc but what I could never do, is get into a serious relationship with a girl I love and go swinging with her! I would get no pleasure whatsoever in other men having sex with her but each to there own and Good luck to people who enjoy it

So you're more than happy to play with others toys but you wouldn't share your own...You just sank your battleship.that has nothing got to do with anything! So u shouldn't be here as a single guy if ud have sex with a female in a relationship but wouldn't let someone fuck your gf if you had one? There two completely diff situations! The difference is if I was in a loving relationship I wouldn't be here, simple as that but I would never judge anyone who is! As I said each to their own

2 different situations, but one attitude. Someone else's partner is ok for you to mess around with but there's no way you'd let someone else mess around with your partner(did I get that right?).

Well as part of a loving couple who enjoy sharing intimate fun with others, anyone with your attitude wouldn't be welcome."

thats perfectly fine! No problem whatsoever

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"so you are just here for an easy ride untill you find a woman ? what if you met a woman who wanted to swing would you dump her ? i wouldn't be in a serious relationship with a woman who I loved, who was into swinging "

If you think you can control who you fall in love with you are a better man than most.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"so you are just here for an easy ride untill you find a woman ? what if you met a woman who wanted to swing would you dump her ? i wouldn't be in a serious relationship with a woman who I loved, who was into swinging

If you think you can control who you fall in love with you are a better man than most. "

its not hard to comprehend! I would get no enjoyment and hate the idea of my gf(if had one) been fucked by other men

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"so you are just here for an easy ride untill you find a woman ? what if you met a woman who wanted to swing would you dump her ? i wouldn't be in a serious relationship with a woman who I loved, who was into swinging

If you think you can control who you fall in love with you are a better man than most. its not hard to comprehend! I would get no enjoyment and hate the idea of my gf(if had one) been fucked by other men "

LOL this guy just keeps on digging that hole. Smh.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If you fell in love with a swinging single female would you choose not to be with her because she was a swinger?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If you fell in love with a swinging single female would you choose not to be with her because she was a swinger? "
absoloutley! If she was going off having sex with other men, most certainly

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm here for fun, couples women M&G etc but what I could never do, is get into a serious relationship with a girl I love and go swinging with her! I would get no pleasure whatsoever in other men having sex with her but each to there own and Good luck to people who enjoy it

So you're more than happy to play with others toys but you wouldn't share your own...You just sank your battleship.that has nothing got to do with anything! So u shouldn't be here as a single guy if ud have sex with a female in a relationship but wouldn't let someone fuck your gf if you had one? There two completely diff situations! The difference is if I was in a loving relationship I wouldn't be here, simple as that but I would never judge anyone who is! As I said each to their own

2 different situations, but one attitude. Someone else's partner is ok for you to mess around with but there's no way you'd let someone else mess around with your partner(did I get that right?).

Well as part of a loving couple who enjoy sharing intimate fun with others, anyone with your attitude wouldn't be welcome.thats perfectly fine! No problem whatsoever "

Try this on your profile:

'Here for nsa fun until I find a decent woman outside of Fab who won't want to be with other men or women(well, who at least won't tell me she wants to be with other men or women).

Party invites welcomed.'

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm here for fun, couples women M&G etc but what I could never do, is get into a serious relationship with a girl I love and go swinging with her! I would get no pleasure whatsoever in other men having sex with her but each to there own and Good luck to people who enjoy it

So you're more than happy to play with others toys but you wouldn't share your own...You just sank your battleship.that has nothing got to do with anything! So u shouldn't be here as a single guy if ud have sex with a female in a relationship but wouldn't let someone fuck your gf if you had one? There two completely diff situations! The difference is if I was in a loving relationship I wouldn't be here, simple as that but I would never judge anyone who is! As I said each to their own

2 different situations, but one attitude. Someone else's partner is ok for you to mess around with but there's no way you'd let someone else mess around with your partner(did I get that right?).

Well as part of a loving couple who enjoy sharing intimate fun with others, anyone with your attitude wouldn't be welcome.thats perfectly fine! No problem whatsoever

Try this on your profile:

'Here for nsa fun until I find a decent woman outside of Fab who won't want to be with other men or women(well, who at least won't tell me she wants to be with other men or women).

Party invites welcomed.'

"

perfect

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I tend to feel trapped in relationships as time goes on. Sex tends to get rubbish, cant stand their company so while I enjoy dating, for me to get into a relationship again it would have to be with someone who is polyamorous. Could take or leave swinging but not giving up my kink for anyone again

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By *auraxxWoman  over a year ago

east


"I tend to feel trapped in relationships as time goes on. Sex tends to get rubbish, cant stand their company so while I enjoy dating, for me to get into a relationship again it would have to be with someone who is polyamorous. Could take or leave swinging but not giving up my kink for anyone again "

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By *aid backMan  over a year ago

by a lake with my rod out


"I tend to feel trapped in relationships as time goes on. Sex tends to get rubbish, cant stand their company so while I enjoy dating, for me to get into a relationship again it would have to be with someone who is polyamorous. Could take or leave swinging but not giving up my kink for anyone again "

with all your kinks you'd not have time lol

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By *ohn MingoMan  over a year ago

Dublin

Part of me loves the casual fun too much to give it up, but I've been single for a while now and wouldn't mind a relationship. I'd have to go out with someone who's open minded enough to at least discuss swinging at some point. Right now I can't see myself giving it up, but if i fell in love (and being honest with myself I dont think I've ever been in love, and i was married once!)...like REALLY in love, maybe I could.

So to sum up, for the right woman I'd probably give it up....but I think the right woman would be someone who'd swing with me!

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By *ohn MingoMan  over a year ago

Dublin


"If you fell in love with a swinging single female would you choose not to be with her because she was a swinger? "

Not at all, in fact right now that would make her more attractive.

weirdly, typing that made me feel like a bad person. I don't know why.

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By *adylaceWoman  over a year ago

Waterford City


"I would agree with you willow. When I first joined I thought this place was the answer to everything. I was always afraid of having to commit to one guy the rest of my life and I imagied swinging was the perfect answer. Since joining I had a relationship with a fabber and the reality was when he did have a meet it was hard. I was jealous and insecure and IT felt wrong. I don't want my future life partner to want to share me with other men and I don't want to share him with other women.

More power and respect to the couples that can. It takes an absolute and complete love and trust in each other and it's really a sign of strength in a relationship. I admire those that do. I just don't think I can"

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By *imwildWoman  over a year ago

around

I'd consider an open relationship. I dont think i could do exclusivity. But then i consider myself pretty much 'vanilla' on here, as in the fact I'm only looking for the occasional one on one meets so then I don't really think I'd be giving up a 'lifestyle'.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

After been in long term relationships and married etc and now enjoyed my single life the past few years can honestly say it would take some man to make me want to leave this lifestyle. Only had this debate with fellow fabbers the other day and I don't think men like confident experienced women in relationships they seem to feel intimidated and insecure. Probably end up back on the site then as a couple sorting out their fantasies and wish lists

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By *un4fun23456Man  over a year ago

ennis


"I've been in this "lifestyle" for nigh on 10 years, both as part of a couple and as a single. Both on this site and others. I've had and continue to have a great time.

Quiet a lot of posts appear here with folk saying " I could never go back to vanilla again" and I totally and absolutely respect their position.

I've been to lots of parties. I've had ladies sucking out of me who I haven't even spoken to. I've had sex with ladies who I haven't even spoken to and vice versa. It was and still is a real kick for me. I love it.

I don't tend to do it too often as I still see it as a fantasy that I can realise, on occasion. I don't want to do it too often as it may then become the norm. That is what scares me.

I don't want it to become the norm as eventually, hopefully I will meet a lady, maybe a vanilla lady. She will not understand my lifestyle and I want to be in a position that I can walk away from this.

Can we singles get too immersed in this? Can we see it as the norm? And if so, what are we leading ourselves into?

I don't want to be 60, single and logging into a site where I am seen as being surplus to requirements.

Eventually I want to hold someones hand, kiss their cheek and cuddle them and not want to let go.

Until then, I shall continue here and continue to enjoy all the fruits that Fab may present to me.

Ladies and gents, please proffer your considered opinion.

Willow

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ha ha then u will get married eventually get bored end up back on here again then u wont b a single

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm here for fun, couples women M&G etc but what I could never do, is get into a serious relationship with a girl I love and go swinging with her! I would get no pleasure whatsoever in other men having sex with her but each to there own and Good luck to people who enjoy it

So you're more than happy to play with others toys but you wouldn't share your own...You just sank your battleship."

If I was to start a new relationship I don't think I'd swing either. If that puts couples off playing with me then so be it.

In saying that I doubt it's a question many couples ask potential single male/female meets

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm here for fun, couples women M&G etc but what I could never do, is get into a serious relationship with a girl I love and go swinging with her! I would get no pleasure whatsoever in other men having sex with her but each to there own and Good luck to people who enjoy it

So you're more than happy to play with others toys but you wouldn't share your own...You just sank your battleship.

If I was to start a new relationship I don't think I'd swing either. If that puts couples off playing with me then so be it.

In saying that I doubt it's a question many couples ask potential single male/female meets "

id say the same

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By *illow1972 OP   Man  over a year ago

Naas

Good discussion, fair play and thanks for all the comments.

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