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Had an appointment in the passport office today, boath of my passports are valid but the pages are completely full with stamps.
Had some time so a good opportunity to change one or boath of them.
Had my proposed itinerary for the next month all the normal stuff signed by the gards and still wouldn't issue me with another one.
I have my own limited aviation company, my own aircraft, pilot lience two full passports and they said it's not a matter of urgency.
Are all public sector workers like this or do they just not care?  |
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Without slating all of them, it's probably just about putting in the hours and following procured, when they see something unusual they don't want to know about it.
Am an Irish tax payer, I can't work without a passport and can't make a contribution to there wage's.  |
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"Maybe they thought you were a big show-off & felt you could be taken down a peg or 2?  "
It was a simple appointment and full with a head cold, am hardly a show-off, work long hours in different countries allways up in the middle of the night, there is nothing fancy about my lifestyle. |
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"Oh you're a pilot? Dont think you mentioned that before.
Must've missed that! 
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That's unfair guy's.
If you want me to go into a rant about how Ireland is so un aviation friendly.
I have a decade building up on the subject while in other countries it's normal. |
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"No its the norm if they cant tick the box u dont get a chance if they had ro live in the real world they would starve"
Life in the private sector is different, if you don't make money your gone.
I have sympathy for anyone that has lost a Job or is entitled to benefit and have to deal with that type personal. |
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"No its the norm if they cant tick the box u dont get a chance if they had ro live in the real world they would starve"
Life in the private sector is different, if you don't make money your gone.
I have sympathy for anyone that has lost a Job or is entitled to benefit and have to deal with that type personal. |
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By *imwildWoman
over a year ago
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"Had an appointment in the passport office today, boath of my passports are valid but the pages are completely full with stamps.
Had some time so a good opportunity to change one or boath of them.
Had my proposed itinerary for the next month all the normal stuff signed by the gards and still wouldn't issue me with another one.
I have my own limited aviation company, my own aircraft, pilot lience two full passports and they said it's not a matter of urgency.
Are all public sector workers like this or do they just not care? "
I don't think you met any if the following criteria, so it seems to me they were only doing their job and following the correct procedure...
In the case of an emergency situation (the death or serious illness of a family member, or for emergency medical treatment of the applicant) we can issue your passport on the day.
Additionally a Pilot Rapid Renewal service has been introduced in the Passport Office in Molesworth Street, Dublin. This will facilitate where possible and by appointment only, the renewal of a passport for an Adult or Child Travelling in less than 3 working days. This service is available only through the Dublin office. A first time Adult or Child applicant cannot avail of this service. |
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"Had an appointment in the passport office today, boath of my passports are valid but the pages are completely full with stamps.
Had some time so a good opportunity to change one or boath of them.
Had my proposed itinerary for the next month all the normal stuff signed by the gards and still wouldn't issue me with another one.
I have my own limited aviation company, my own aircraft, pilot lience two full passports and they said it's not a matter of urgency.
Are all public sector workers like this or do they just not care? I don't think you met any if the following criteria, so it seems to me they were only doing their job and following the correct procedure...
In the case of an emergency situation (the death or serious illness of a family member, or for emergency medical treatment of the applicant) we can issue your passport on the day.
Additionally a Pilot Rapid Renewal service has been introduced in the Passport Office in Molesworth Street, Dublin. This will facilitate where possible and by appointment only, the renewal of a passport for an Adult or Child Travelling in less than 3 working days. This service is available only through the Dublin office. A first time Adult or Child applicant cannot avail of this service."
I don't think they know there own rules, I clearly said I was a pilot and my licence is invalid without a passport. I had all the paperwork with me. |
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By *imwildWoman
over a year ago
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I don't think they know there own rules, I clearly said I was a pilot and my licence is invalid without a passport. I had all the paperwork with me."
That's your responsibility to have a valid passport not theirs. |
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I don't think they know there own rules, I clearly said I was a pilot and my licence is invalid without a passport. I had all the paperwork with me.
That's your responsibility to have a valid passport not theirs. "
I have 2 valid passports but they are full, can't take any more stamps or visa's so as us full as a chocolate fireguard.
In my professional opinion the people in the Irish passport office are incompetent.  |
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By *j47Man
over a year ago
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I don't think they know there own rules, I clearly said I was a pilot and my licence is invalid without a passport. I had all the paperwork with me.
That's your responsibility to have a valid passport not theirs.
I have 2 valid passports but they are full, can't take any more stamps or visa's so as us full as a chocolate fireguard.
In my professional opinion the people in the Irish passport office are incompetent. "
In my opinion civil servnts in general are incompetent i deal sith private compnys daily when the chips are dosn tbey bend ocer backwards for u the people tht hve state jobs only put blocks nd red tpe in ur way 9/5 gov pension they dont care and if they can knock u they will |
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I don't think they know there own rules, I clearly said I was a pilot and my licence is invalid without a passport. I had all the paperwork with me.
That's your responsibility to have a valid passport not theirs.
I have 2 valid passports but they are full, can't take any more stamps or visa's so as us full as a chocolate fireguard.
In my professional opinion the people in the Irish passport office are incompetent.
In my opinion civil servnts in general are incompetent i deal sith private compnys daily when the chips are dosn tbey bend ocer backwards for u the people tht hve state jobs only put blocks nd red tpe in ur way 9/5 gov pension they dont care and if they can knock u they will"
I agree totally, complete gob shits, if I contest the passport renewal though my company an win , I'll have to work over Christmas, maybe I can send them a few emails tomorrow privately and win boath ways. |
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By *vsnikkiTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Had an appointment in the passport office today, boath of my passports are valid but the pages are completely full with stamps.
Had some time so a good opportunity to change one or boath of them.
Had my proposed itinerary for the next month all the normal stuff signed by the gards and still wouldn't issue me with another one.
I have my own limited aviation company, my own aircraft, pilot lience two full passports and they said it's not a matter of urgency.
Are all public sector workers like this or do they just not care? "
Not having an Irish passport I am not sure how they differ from UK ones, but is it not possible to renew them in advance of you filling them up. I used to fill mine up frequently but it was always possible to think ahead. |
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"That's not the case your licence is invalid without an in date medical. Your passport does not have any influence on the validity of your pilots licence be it issued by EASA or the FAA"
I have a valid EASA licence and my medical is allways kept within my pilot licence, how many pilot licence have you seen and what good are they without a passport? |
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"Not very professional to be unorganised.
When u do up on a hundread hrs a week it can sometimes be hard to be on top of every thing another 68 hours left to try.."
When did you last see a pilot licence?, it doesn't have a photo on it and has to have a passport to be valid in other icao member states. |
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By *j47Man
over a year ago
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"Not very professional to be unorganised.
When u do up on a hundread hrs a week it can sometimes be hard to be on top of every thing another 68 hours left to try.."
Yip thats true replied like a true civil servant after a hard 40 hrs  |
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By *imwildWoman
over a year ago
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"Not very professional to be unorganised.
When u do up on a hundread hrs a week it can sometimes be hard to be on top of every thing another 68 hours left to try..
Yip thats true replied like a true civil servant after a hard 40 hrs "
You think? Hahaha |
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"So if I asked you to fly me tomorrow from Dublin to knock or any other of the Irish domestic airfields your telling me that your pilots licence is invalid because your passport is out of date. An out of date medical or LPC or the licence having lapsed more than five years from the date of issue will cause it to be invalid otherwise your good to go"
I have a valid licence, valid medical, a valid plane that has a valid permit with a valid radio licence and I still couldn't fly you to knock . |
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Ragging on the public sector is how elite right wing fucknuts keep getting elected in all European countries.. Keeping the elite protected and the poor poor. Divide and rule.
Dont fall for private sector vs public sector BS.. Your situation is partly your fault (your book didnt just fill up over night, you should know the rules if its part of your job requirements). Sure its fustrating, try and find a solution and good luck. |
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By *j47Man
over a year ago
limerick |
"Not very professional to be unorganised.
When u do up on a hundread hrs a week it can sometimes be hard to be on top of every thing another 68 hours left to try..
Yip thats true replied like a true civil servant after a hard 40 hrs
You think? Hahaha "
No but it does piss me off the amount of people that think self employed is a doddle and we live it up. I know they look at us with contempt but id love their terms and conditions. |
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"I'm starting to think 'Fab' is the only licence he's got ha I'd question that one too..
That's just so wrong, if anyone doubt's am not a pilot I can send any qualification you like."
You don't need to prove yourself to anyone here.
Amazes me why people posts unnecessary and unhelpful comments on threads.
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This thread reminds me of a song.......
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Let me play among the stars
Let me see what spring is like
On Jupiter and Mars
In other words, hold my hand
In other words, baby , kiss me
Fill my heart with song
and let me sing forever more
You are all I long for
All I worship and adore
In other words, please be true
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Let me sing forever more
You are all I long for
All I worship and adore
In other words, please be true
In other words, I love you
In other words, I love you.
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"I'm starting to think 'Fab' is the only licence he's got ha I'd question that one too..
That's just so wrong, if anyone doubt's am not a pilot I can send any qualification you like.
You don't need to prove yourself to anyone here.
Thanks Mel, that's true. Having nothing to hide it's easy to show off my qualification if need be.
Amazes me why people posts unnecessary and unhelpful comments on threads.
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By *imwildWoman
over a year ago
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"I'm starting to think 'Fab' is the only licence he's got ha I'd question that one too..
That's just so wrong, if anyone doubt's am not a pilot I can send any qualification you like.
You don't need to prove yourself to anyone here.
Amazes me why people posts unnecessary and unhelpful comments on threads.
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I think you will find the op was given an answer to his query which he did not accept and made statements which were questionable.
There is a saying "do not ask a question if your not prepared to hear an answer you dislike" |
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"I'm starting to think 'Fab' is the only licence he's got ha I'd question that one too..
That's just so wrong, if anyone doubt's am not a pilot I can send any qualification you like.
You don't need to prove yourself to anyone here.
Thanks Mel, that's true. Having nothing to hide it's easy to show off my qualification if need be.
Amazes me why people posts unnecessary and unhelpful comments on threads.
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Thats my point, you dont have to show your qualification s off to anyone on this site, it's no-one's business. I rarely tell anyone my profession, let alone feel I have to give proof. The less you know the more discreet a meet is . |
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Well you wouldn't blame people for doubting you. If you are a pilot like you say you are then you need to get in the books and study up a little more and know the rules and regulations. There are lots of guys flying about Ireland everyday with professional pilots licences and they don't have to have passports to support their licences privileges to fly within the state.
As explained earlier if your licence is signed by you , the document itself is within five years from date of issue, your medical and LPC are in check , your English proficiency cert is in check and you carry any form of recent picture ID then you are 100% good to go. Your EASA licence is valid and u can fly from Dublin to knock or any other regional airfield within the Irish state. If on the other hand you fly abroad without a current and up to date passport then your issues are with the emigration officials of the country your visiting. If you are ramp checked by the civil aviation authorities of that country you are flying into then so long as all the boxes are ticked on your pilots licence and you have a current photo ID , be it a company photo ID badge or even a drivers licence then your legal to fly that aircraft. You will no doubt have issues with emigration though. |
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By *imwildWoman
over a year ago
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"I'm starting to think 'Fab' is the only licence he's got ha I'd question that one too..
That's just so wrong, if anyone doubt's am not a pilot I can send any qualification you like.
You don't need to prove yourself to anyone here.
Thanks Mel, that's true. Having nothing to hide it's easy to show off my qualification if need be.
Amazes me why people posts unnecessary and unhelpful comments on threads.
Thats my point, you dont have to show your qualification s off to anyone on this site, it's no-one's business. I rarely tell anyone my profession, let alone feel I have to give proof. The less you know the more discreet a meet is . "
No one asked anyone to prove themselves. The op offered!!! If someone feels the need to prove themselves that is their own problem. |
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"Well you wouldn't blame people for doubting you. If you are a pilot like you say you are then you need to get in the books and study up a little more and know the rules and regulations. There are lots of guys flying about Ireland everyday with professional pilots licences and they don't have to have passports to support their licences privileges to fly within the state.
As explained earlier if your licence is signed by you , the document itself is within five years from date of issue, your medical and LPC are in check , your English proficiency cert is in check and you carry any form of recent picture ID then you are 100% good to go. Your EASA licence is valid and u can fly from Dublin to knock or any other regional airfield within the Irish state. If on the other hand you fly abroad without a current and up to date passport then your issues are with the emigration officials of the country your visiting. If you are ramp checked by the civil aviation authorities of that country you are flying into then so long as all the boxes are ticked on your pilots licence and you have a current photo ID , be it a company photo ID badge or even a drivers licence then your legal to fly that aircraft. You will no doubt have issues with emigration thougyo"
OK my drivers licence will cover me to fly to knock but normally my destinations are out to countries in the middle or far east. |
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"I'm starting to think 'Fab' is the only licence he's got ha I'd question that one too..
That's just so wrong, if anyone doubt's am not a pilot I can send any qualification you like.
You don't need to prove yourself to anyone here.
Amazes me why people posts unnecessary and unhelpful comments on threads.
I think you will find the op was given an answer to his query which he did not accept and made statements which were questionable.
There is a saying "do not ask a question if your not prepared to hear an answer you dislike" "
Another saying
If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing
Or another favourite on this site. .
If you don't like what you read, pass it by. |
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By *imwildWoman
over a year ago
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"I'm starting to think 'Fab' is the only licence he's got ha I'd question that one too..
That's just so wrong, if anyone doubt's am not a pilot I can send any qualification you like.
You don't need to prove yourself to anyone here.
Amazes me why people posts unnecessary and unhelpful comments on threads.
I think you will find the op was given an answer to his query which he did not accept and made statements which were questionable.
There is a saying "do not ask a question if your not prepared to hear an answer you dislike"
Another saying
If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing
Or another favourite on this site. .
If you don't like what you read, pass it by."
hahaha. Here's another one. Practice what you preach. |
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"Well you wouldn't blame people for doubting you. If you are a pilot like you say you are then you need to get in the books and study up a little more and know the rules and regulations. There are lots of guys flying about Ireland everyday with professional pilots licences and they don't have to have passports to support their licences privileges to fly within the state.
As explained earlier if your licence is signed by you , the document itself is within five years from date of issue, your medical and LPC are in check , your English proficiency cert is in check and you carry any form of recent picture ID then you are 100% good to go. Your EASA licence is valid and u can fly from Dublin to knock or any other regional airfield within the Irish state. If on the other hand you fly abroad without a current and up to date passport then your issues are with the emigration officials of the country your visiting. If you are ramp checked by the civil aviation authorities of that country you are flying into then so long as all the boxes are ticked on your pilots licence and you have a current photo ID , be it a company photo ID badge or even a drivers licence then your legal to fly that aircraft. You will no doubt have issues with emigration though. "
There are lots of people flying in Ireland without a licence . |
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"I'm starting to think 'Fab' is the only licence he's got ha I'd question that one too..
That's just so wrong, if anyone doubt's am not a pilot I can send any qualification you like.
You don't need to prove yourself to anyone here.
Amazes me why people posts unnecessary and unhelpful comments on threads.
I think you will find the op was given an answer to his query which he did not accept and made statements which were questionable.
There is a saying "do not ask a question if your not prepared to hear an answer you dislike"
Another saying
If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing
Or another favourite on this site. .
If you don't like what you read, pass it by. hahaha. Here's another one. Practice what you preach. "
Amused that you know that one too. Work on them. |
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By *imwildWoman
over a year ago
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"I'm starting to think 'Fab' is the only licence he's got ha I'd question that one too..
That's just so wrong, if anyone doubt's am not a pilot I can send any qualification you like.
You don't need to prove yourself to anyone here.
Amazes me why people posts unnecessary and unhelpful comments on threads.
I think you will find the op was given an answer to his query which he did not accept and made statements which were questionable.
There is a saying "do not ask a question if your not prepared to hear an answer you dislike"
Another saying
If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing
Or another favourite on this site. .
If you don't like what you read, pass it by. hahaha. Here's another one. Practice what you preach.
Amused that you know that one too.
Work on them."
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Well you won't be flying to the middle or Far East in the first case unless you or the OP's dept of your company fills out a general declaration form to the authorities of that country stating who the crew flying the aircraft are. And on that form they require passport numbers and issue dates. But if you did decide to go your issues are with emigration not the civil aviation authorities of that country. As long as you are flying an aircraft that your licence allows u to fly and and you have photo ID then your legal in that seat of the plane. You may not be legal in the country but that a whole different can of worms |
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"Well you wouldn't blame people for doubting you. If you are a pilot like you say you are then you need to get in the books and study up a little more and know the rules and regulations. There are lots of guys flying about Ireland everyday with professional pilots licences and they don't have to have passports to support their licences privileges to fly within the state.
As explained earlier if your licence is signed by you , the document itself is within five years from date of issue, your medical and LPC are in check , your English proficiency cert is in check and you carry any form of recent picture ID then you are 100% good to go. Your EASA licence is valid and u can fly from Dublin to knock or any other regional airfield within the Irish state. If on the other hand you fly abroad without a current and up to date passport then your issues are with the emigration officials of the country your visiting. If you are ramp checked by the civil aviation authorities of that country you are flying into then so long as all the boxes are ticked on your pilots licence and you have a current photo ID , be it a company photo ID badge or even a drivers licence then your legal to fly that aircraft. You will no doubt have issues with emigration though. "
I know all about it, ask for a simple email from the company to explain why you traveled half way across the world for 6 hours and you never get it.. I get lot's of emigration issues. |
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"Well you won't be flying to the middle or Far East in the first case unless you or the OP's dept of your company fills out a general declaration form to the authorities of that country stating who the crew flying the aircraft are. And on that form they require passport numbers and issue dates. But if you did decide to go your issues are with emigration not the civil aviation authorities of that country. As long as you are flying an aircraft that your licence allows u to fly and and you have photo ID then your legal in that seat of the plane. You may not be legal in the country but that a whole different can of worms"
I can show you more gen decs for countries that I shouldn't have been in.
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Just one answer to that statement you just made there.
Is that Legal. That kind of behaviour would not inspire confidence on would be customers.
People in the aviation industry have to be seen to do the right thing and not be taking short cuts or ducking and diving.
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"Just one answer to that statement you just made there.
Is that Legal. That kind of behaviour would not inspire confidence on would be customers.
People in the aviation industry have to be seen to do the right thing and not be taking short cuts or ducking and diving.
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Nothing to do with short cut's but some middle East states are asking Irish crews instead of UK or American at the moment. We are harmless country and it goes a long way out there. |
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"Just one answer to that statement you just made there.
Is that Legal. That kind of behaviour would not inspire confidence on would be customers.
People in the aviation industry have to be seen to do the right thing and not be taking short cuts or ducking and diving.
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I normally don't fly passengers anymore but cargo for aid and humanitarian needs. All my licence requirements are with the IAA so there are no shortcuts. |
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I don't think they know there own rules, I clearly said I was a pilot and my licence is invalid without a passport. I had all the paperwork with me."
not true. Any legal photo id validates your licence. the fact you need a passport for international travel is not linked. seems to me the passport officer did his job. if you do indeed have two passports which I know is not that unusual then you had ample opportunity to have one processed prior to filling all the pages which is what I do. it cannot be deemed an emergency. I have never had an issue in my dealings with the passport office |
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Another saying
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Or another favourite on this site. .
If you don't like what you read, pass it by."
I reserve the right to speak my mind whether others like it or not  |
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"Had an appointment in the passport office today, boath of my passports are valid but the pages are completely full with stamps.
Had some time so a good opportunity to change one or boath of them.
Had my proposed itinerary for the next month all the normal stuff signed by the gards and still wouldn't issue me with another one.
I have my own limited aviation company, my own aircraft, pilot lience two full passports and they said it's not a matter of urgency.
Are all public sector workers like this or do they just not care? "
blatant I'm a pilot look at me I'm rich and travel the world thread |
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Another saying
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Or another favourite on this site. .
If you don't like what you read, pass it by.
I reserve the right to speak my mind whether others like it or not "
And you do it so well Michael, keep up the good work |
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"Fell asleep last night reading this and now todazzzzzzzzzzz,,,  "
hahaha, I wonder if anyone had a wank over it, there's bound to be at least one person out there who find discussions about passports arousing., there's always one! |
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"Had an appointment in the passport office today, boath of my passports are valid but the pages are completely full with stamps.
Had some time so a good opportunity to change one or boath of them.
Had my proposed itinerary for the next month all the normal stuff signed by the gards and still wouldn't issue me with another one.
I have my own limited aviation company, my own aircraft, pilot lience two full passports and they said it's not a matter of urgency.
Are all public sector workers like this or do they just not care? "
they probably got their ass kicked the last time they used their common sense so not deviating from exact procedures again....sad but true |
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By *vsnikkiTV/TS
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"Fell asleep last night reading this and now todazzzzzzzzzzz,,,
hahaha, I wonder if anyone had a wank over it, there's bound to be at least one person out there who find discussions about passports arousing., there's always one!"
Who doesn't find passports a real turn on? |
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"Doesn't bode very well when someone finds themselves boring. What's that exciting job you do again, I forget
A sheepherder miss wild. Ba,ba..."
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