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By *aid backMan
over a year ago
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It's his decision, he gave his reasons & that should be that. "
exactly he wrote a letter to his employers outlining why.
People should respect his decision the same way people should respect the decision to wear it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It's his decision, he gave his reasons & that should be that.
exactly he wrote a letter to his employers outlining why.
People should respect his decision the same way people should respect the decision to wear it."
Agree laid..  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I agree if he doesn't wish to wear one he shouldn't be victimised one little bit. That's why those millions of brave men and women died so that we may have a choice. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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People should respect his decision I agree but if he did it would be a slap in the face to those in Derry where he comes from. Would you expect the army to observe such a thing for isis taliban alqaeda etc ....... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Yes true. He outlined if the poppy just represented the personnel lost in ww1 and ww2 he would wear one. But I do believe that the poppy in the north of Ireland bears a different meaning than the rest of the uk and Ireland |
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"Catholics and protestants fought in the war, no reason why anyone british or irish shouldn't wear a poppy, they gave there lives for our today"
Isn't the poppy meant to show support for all members of the British military, past and present? Therein lies the problem. Nobody has any issues with the soldiers who served in either of the world wars, but there were quite a few incidents where members of the British military didn't exactly cover themselves with glory. I'd have no problems with commemorating the soldiers who fought in either of those wars but I'm certainly not going to commemorate the soldiers who committed numerous atrocities all over Ireland. |
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By *andytownMan
over a year ago
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The poppy doesn't represent just British military personnel that have died in conflict , there in lies the ignorance of some folks .....
but here never let the truth interfere with a good story.
Anyway , he and others are free to choose no matter what . And that's the end of it really. |
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"The poppy doesn't represent just British military personnel that have died in conflict , there in lies the ignorance of some folks .....
but here never let the truth interfere with a good story.
Anyway , he and others are free to choose no matter what . And that's the end of it really."
It doesn't just represent British military but according to the Royal British Legion, it shows support for all members of the British military, past and present. |
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By *andytownMan
over a year ago
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"The poppy doesn't represent just British military personnel that have died in conflict , there in lies the ignorance of some folks .....
but here never let the truth interfere with a good story.
Anyway , he and others are free to choose no matter what . And that's the end of it really.
It doesn't just represent British military but according to the Royal British Legion, it shows support for all members of the British military, past and present. "
And Commonwealth , Anzac , Gurkha etc etc  |
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"The poppy doesn't represent just British military personnel that have died in conflict , there in lies the ignorance of some folks .....
but here never let the truth interfere with a good story.
Anyway , he and others are free to choose no matter what . And that's the end of it really.
It doesn't just represent British military but according to the Royal British Legion, it shows support for all members of the British military, past and present.
And Commonwealth , Anzac , Gurkha etc etc "
Yes, but there aren't serving gurkhas these days, and I don't recall the anzacs etc committing atrocities in this country, nor the Canadians. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I dont see what the fuss is about is really he still stood for the min silence at just before kick off with the rest of hes teams mates its just the media again making a big story because of who he is. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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Poppy is for all serving British army personnel past present alive or dead including those who gunned down people on bloody Sunday colluded with uda/uvf with killing catholics. I agree some of those were republican soldiers etc however 2 wrongs don't make a right. The town of Drumahoe in County Derry flies paratroopers regiment flag on their lampposts that's is just as sick as falls Rd flying an isis flag |
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By *andytownMan
over a year ago
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I knew this would deteriorate into "whataboutery" and nonsense statements !!!
The lad is free to do what he wants as someone else has sacrificed their life for him and others to live in a democratic society......end of !! |
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By *aid backMan
over a year ago
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for the love of god a footballer had a reason for not wearing a poppy. it doesnt have to become a debate on the british armed forces or on the political devide in northern ireland. its these sort of debates/arguments that are the reason why it will take years for the wounds of the north to heal |
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By (user no longer on site)
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A good friend of mine went to the Tower of London on Fri morn to see the poppy installation there with friends. She said it was very moving and the photo's she shared reflected that. She didn't want to leave or wear a red poppy but chose instead the white peace poppy. People have the right to choose what feels right for them and not to be forced to do something that goes against their conscience. |
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I proudly wear a poppy to remember all those of whatever religion, race, colour or creed who have fought to defend the rights of all of us to enjoy the freedom that we have today.
That includes anyone's right to chose NOT to wear a poppy. I don't know this footballer, but I support his choice, and having heard his intelligent, sensitive and fair letter explaining his reasons, have huge respect for him. That's what freedom is all about. Lest we forget |
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"I proudly wear a poppy to remember all those of whatever religion, race, colour or creed who have fought to defend the rights of all of us to enjoy the freedom that we have today.
That includes anyone's right to chose NOT to wear a poppy. I don't know this footballer, but I support his choice, and having heard his intelligent, sensitive and fair letter explaining his reasons, have huge respect for him. That's what freedom is all about. Lest we forget"
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It's his decision, he gave his reasons & that should be that.
exactly he wrote a letter to his employers outlining why.
People should respect his decision the same way people should respect the decision to wear it.
Agree laid.. "
Agree... no one should be made to wear or not wear it... it should be a persons choice  |
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"Isn't it sad that this story is classed as newsworthy and that a person has to justify their choice to strangers. "
Not really Kim, he lives & works in a country where public figures are expected to stand together on certain issues, the paying supporters of his football club and his chairman wanted to know why. It also helps the public know that not everyone sees things the same way. |
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By *imwildWoman
over a year ago
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"Isn't it sad that this story is classed as newsworthy and that a person has to justify their choice to strangers.
Not really Kim, he lives & works in a country where public figures are expected to stand together on certain issues, the paying supporters of his football club and his chairman wanted to know why. It also helps the public know that not everyone sees things the same way."
I disagree. If it was an illegal act, yes, but a personal preference does not warrant a news headline considering the majority of people don't have the foggiest idea who he is. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Isn't it sad that this story is classed as newsworthy and that a person has to justify their choice to strangers.
Not really Kim, he lives & works in a country where public figures are expected to stand together on certain issues, the paying supporters of his football club and his chairman wanted to know why. It also helps the public know that not everyone sees things the same way.
I disagree. If it was an illegal act, yes, but a personal preference does not warrant a news headline considering the majority of people don't have the foggiest idea who he is. "
Is it a headline in the UK you're referring to?
The supporters of football in the UK would be interested & I'd imagine as he's been put in the spotlight & he's Irish, Irish people would be interested.
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By *imwildWoman
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"Isn't it sad that this story is classed as newsworthy and that a person has to justify their choice to strangers.
Not really Kim, he lives & works in a country where public figures are expected to stand together on certain issues, the paying supporters of his football club and his chairman wanted to know why. It also helps the public know that not everyone sees things the same way.
I disagree. If it was an illegal act, yes, but a personal preference does not warrant a news headline considering the majority of people don't have the foggiest idea who he is.
Is it a headline in the UK you're referring to?
The supporters of football in the UK would be interested & I'd imagine as he's been put in the spotlight & he's Irish, Irish people would be interested.
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I'm not referring to any news headline. 
I can't say if UK football supporters would be interested. Dont know what this has got to do with his ability in playing football. I'm Irish and I'm not interested.
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"Isn't it sad that this story is classed as newsworthy and that a person has to justify their choice to strangers.
Not really Kim, he lives & works in a country where public figures are expected to stand together on certain issues, the paying supporters of his football club and his chairman wanted to know why. It also helps the public know that not everyone sees things the same way.
I disagree. If it was an illegal act, yes, but a personal preference does not warrant a news headline considering the majority of people don't have the foggiest idea who he is.
Is it a headline in the UK you're referring to?
The supporters of football in the UK would be interested & I'd imagine as he's been put in the spotlight & he's Irish, Irish people would be interested.
I'm not referring to any news headline.
I can't say if UK football supporters would be interested. Dont know what this has got to do with his ability in playing football. I'm Irish and I'm not interested.
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