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By (user no longer on site) OP
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4kBZK5VG7Q
The history explained.Boycott Isreali products and complain online if you disagree with the politics of this unjust war.Products from Isreal have a barcode on them which begins with the numbers 729.
The Isreali navy boarded and assualted the crew of an Irish aid workers ship delivering aid to Palestine last year.The Isreali ambassadors office is still open in Dublin to this day.
Read about this war and the history behind it online and educate yourself,if it angers you please protest.Bullying must never be tolerated.
During the second world war,the Nazis and the countries who aligned themselves with facsism wiped out 67% of the Jews in wartorn Europe.Isreal is backed by the United States nowadays,what does that say to you about the progress of civilisation ?
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"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4kBZK5VG7Q
The history explained.Boycott Isreali products and complain online if you disagree with the politics of this unjust war.Products from Isreal have a barcode on them which begins with the numbers 729.
The Isreali navy boarded and assualted the crew of an Irish aid workers ship delivering aid to Palestine last year.The Isreali ambassadors office is still open in Dublin to this day.
Read about this war and the history behind it online and educate yourself,if it angers you please protest.Bullying must never be tolerated.
During the second world war,the Nazis and the countries who aligned themselves with facsism wiped out 67% of the Jews in wartorn Europe.Isreal is backed by the United States nowadays,what does that say to you about the progress of civilisation ?
"Accept nothing without questioning it first""
historical face goes back over 4000 years. This is oppinion   |
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By (user no longer on site)
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More Hama's rockets land on there on people than land in Israel
Bit of a laugh the shape this countries in
Glass houses/throw stones
Better saying nothing fs got abusived messages about the Falklands and sum mythical las Malvina's lol just for sayin the argies had a good shout at the world cup |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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The State of Israel in it's current form and in modern history is there since 1947,pehaps my posting which included mention of the second world war and the link to the you tube video didn't quiet explain it clearly,my apologies. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Of course,though I might add that my view is based on historical fact.
Pity you couldn't even spell Israel, or I might even have had a look."
Had you had a look maybe you would not be nitpicking about my spelling and would instead contribute in a educated and informed manner rather than with snide remarks. |
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By *vsnikkiTV/TS
over a year ago
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Obviously we all can have our own views of the situation and I, as many others, view it with a different slant to that of the op. I do not see it as an unjust war. I view it as a just retaliation against a terrorist organization. Please do not take one video as "the truth". It is merely one version of the truth. |
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On Nov. 29, 1947, the United Nations General Assembly passed a resolution calling for Palestine to be partitioned between Arabs and Jews, allowing for the formation of the Jewish state of Israel.
Since 1917, Palestine had been under the control of Britain, which supported the creation of a Jewish state in the holy land. Sympathy for the Jewish cause grew during the genocide of European Jews during the Holocaust. In 1946, the Palestine issue was brought before the newly created United Nations, which drafted a partition plan.
The plan, which organized Palestine into three Jewish sections, four Arab sections and the internationally-administered city of Jerusalem, had strong support in Western nations as well as the Soviet Union. It was opposed by Arab nations.
The General Assembly voted, 33-13, in favor of partition, with 10 members, including Britain, abstaining. The six Arab nations in the General Assembly staged a walkout in protest. The New York Times reported: “The walkout of the Arab delegates was taken as a clear indication that the Palestinian Arabs would have nothing to do with the Assembly’s decision. The British have emphasized repeatedly that British troops could not be used to impose a settlement not acceptable to both Jews and Arabs, and the partition plan does not provide outside military force to keep order. Instead, it provides for the establishment of armed militia by the two nascent states to keep internal order.”
Six months later, on May 14, 1948, Jewish leaders in the region formed the state of Israel. British troops left, thousands of Palestinian Arabs fled and Arab armies invaded Israel. In the Arab-Israeli War, Israel defeated its enemies. It was the first of several wars fought between Israel and its neighbors. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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In addition those of you who doubt that this is an unjust war may like to red the following link and observe that this is from "The Israel Times"
http://www.timesofisrael.com/the-day-that-never-ended/ |
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By (user no longer on site)
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blame jesus, he told the jews, of which he was king incidently, to go to palestine and build their homes, little did he know that the us brittain, and to some extent, europe would back that up, or did he? |
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"Of course,though I might add that my view is based on historical fact.
Pity you couldn't even spell Israel, or I might even have had a look.
Had you had a look maybe you would not be nitpicking about my spelling and would instead contribute in a educated and informed manner rather than with snide remarks."
OK, I disagree with you. Almost completely. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Europe America all back Israel even that Muppet gwbush because they are "Christian" based countries and the bible tell us to prey for the peace of Israel and the book of revelations warns that when all the counties attack israel that's its the begining of the end your man from Iran dinnerjacket or whatever his called has called for every Israeli child to be killed and the nation to be wiped from the face of the earth
Something fundamental wrong with it all its hardly unjust 1500 Syrian and lybian supplied rockets in the last month If every country looked after their people like the IDF do people might not be as quick to start wars
In the words of peter Griffen it grinds my gears lol that there's wide support for just about every terrorist crackpot organization going Hama's farc |
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"Methinks we should mind our own business in this wee part of the world instead of taking sides in someone else's problems #noneofourbusiness..  "
It soon will become our business if there's another world war. |
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Really ??? Have the people here not had enough of all that shite that's certain narrow minded single idealology that they wanna get involved in any war about wen the Irish government were neutral yet help in small case the Nazis and supporting these jihadi chaps did they do u not relise that their end game is the descrution if us the Nazis wouldn't have gave a fuck if they refueled s few uboats up for them yous would have been part of their final solution and same with the wlrs if Mohammad to destroy and convert every corner if the world and kill those who don't follow
No fuckimg thanks again glass houses
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"Really ??? Have the people here not had enough of all that shite that's certain narrow minded single idealology that they wanna get involved in any war about wen the Irish government were neutral yet help in small case the Nazis and supporting these jihadi chaps did they do u not relise that their end game is the descrution if us the Nazis wouldn't have gave a fuck if they refueled s few uboats up for them yous would have been part of their final solution and same with the wlrs if Mohammad to destroy and convert every corner if the world and kill those who don't follow
No fuckimg thanks again glass houses
For he is our god and we are the people"
Woah, Im not saying I agree with it , but it is worrying what situation could arise from everything that is happening at the minute. |
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"note to self , avoid all political threads on fab going forward  "
Take your pick today, Christian vs Muslim or West vs East.(or is Russia Europe nowadays?) |
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At the end if the day Hama's are terrorist not freedom fighters or soldiers any one that hides in schools wears masks to wage their war are beyond words Hama's are know for using human shields really this isn't the south park movie these extremists so wanna die for Allah and Mohammed the IDF are just giving them that opportunity
We can't really give political advice to any country when our own stormount is full of convicted murderers and bombers from both sides just as guilty as Hamas good Friday agreement or not they are still all murderers
Biffy clyro for prime minister
Mon the biff
Headphones in world out they wanna kill each other leave em.too it not our issue never was never will be tidy your garden before you make a start on the street |
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By *aid backMan
over a year ago
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"Really ??? Have the people here not had enough of all that shite that's certain narrow minded single idealology that they wanna get involved in any war about wen the Irish government were neutral yet help in small case the Nazis and supporting these jihadi chaps did they do u not relise that their end game is the descrution if us the Nazis wouldn't have gave a fuck if they refueled s few uboats up for them yous would have been part of their final solution and same with the wlrs if Mohammad to destroy and convert every corner if the world and kill those who don't follow
No fuckimg thanks again glass houses
For he is our god and we are the people"
firstly i have to laugh at your narrow mindedness LOL
now ireland did not help the nazi during ww2 in fact we declined an off from hitler to allow our port be used by nazi ships we also imprisoned nazi air men that landed in ireland after been shot down in the curragh camp so get you facts right before you spew your shite.
As for Israel ad Palestine. Israel wasnt even a country till 1947 when palistine was divided. and since then its has been doing land grabs of Palestinian lands and no body will say a word and those that do are called anti semites. i wonder how you would feel if ireland just started taking lands from counties north of the border ? because that is the exact same thing israel is doing its going against a border draw up after a conflict.
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"Really ??? Have the people here not had enough of all that shite that's certain narrow minded single idealology that they wanna get involved in any war about wen the Irish government were neutral yet help in small case the Nazis and supporting these jihadi chaps did they do u not relise that their end game is the descrution if us the Nazis wouldn't have gave a fuck if they refueled s few uboats up for them yous would have been part of their final solution and same with the wlrs if Mohammad to destroy and convert every corner if the world and kill those who don't follow
No fuckimg thanks again glass houses
For he is our god and we are the people
firstly i have to laugh at your narrow mindedness LOL
now ireland did not help the nazi during ww2 in fact we declined an off from hitler to allow our port be used by nazi ships we also imprisoned nazi air men that landed in ireland after been shot down in the curragh camp so get you facts right before you spew your shite.
As for Israel ad Palestine. Israel wasnt even a country till 1947 when palistine was divided. and since then its has been doing land grabs of Palestinian lands and no body will say a word and those that do are called anti semites. i wonder how you would feel if ireland just started taking lands from counties north of the border ? because that is the exact same thing israel is doing its going against a border draw up after a conflict.
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Palestinian lands? Those borders have been moved throughout the history of mankind by whichever was the strongest force in the region. |
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By *aid backMan
over a year ago
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"Really ??? Have the people here not had enough of all that shite that's certain narrow minded single idealology that they wanna get involved in any war about wen the Irish government were neutral yet help in small case the Nazis and supporting these jihadi chaps did they do u not relise that their end game is the descrution if us the Nazis wouldn't have gave a fuck if they refueled s few uboats up for them yous would have been part of their final solution and same with the wlrs if Mohammad to destroy and convert every corner if the world and kill those who don't follow
No fuckimg thanks again glass houses
For he is our god and we are the people
firstly i have to laugh at your narrow mindedness LOL
now ireland did not help the nazi during ww2 in fact we declined an off from hitler to allow our port be used by nazi ships we also imprisoned nazi air men that landed in ireland after been shot down in the curragh camp so get you facts right before you spew your shite.
As for Israel ad Palestine. Israel wasnt even a country till 1947 when palistine was divided. and since then its has been doing land grabs of Palestinian lands and no body will say a word and those that do are called anti semites. i wonder how you would feel if ireland just started taking lands from counties north of the border ? because that is the exact same thing israel is doing its going against a border draw up after a conflict.
Palestinian lands? Those borders have been moved throughout the history of mankind by whichever was the strongest force in the region. "
yes Palestinian land the lands given to Palestine the same time that lands where given to create the Israeli state in 1947 |
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"Really ??? Have the people here not had enough of all that shite that's certain narrow minded single idealology that they wanna get involved in any war about wen the Irish government were neutral yet help in small case the Nazis and supporting these jihadi chaps did they do u not relise that their end game is the descrution if us the Nazis wouldn't have gave a fuck if they refueled s few uboats up for them yous would have been part of their final solution and same with the wlrs if Mohammad to destroy and convert every corner if the world and kill those who don't follow
No fuckimg thanks again glass houses
For he is our god and we are the people
firstly i have to laugh at your narrow mindedness LOL
now ireland did not help the nazi during ww2 in fact we declined an off from hitler to allow our port be used by nazi ships we also imprisoned nazi air men that landed in ireland after been shot down in the curragh camp so get you facts right before you spew your shite.
As for Israel ad Palestine. Israel wasnt even a country till 1947 when palistine was divided. and since then its has been doing land grabs of Palestinian lands and no body will say a word and those that do are called anti semites. i wonder how you would feel if ireland just started taking lands from counties north of the border ? because that is the exact same thing israel is doing its going against a border draw up after a conflict.
Palestinian lands? Those borders have been moved throughout the history of mankind by whichever was the strongest force in the region.
yes Palestinian land the lands given to Palestine the same time that lands where given to create the Israeli state in 1947"
Mr69: You should try going back a bit further, the Romans are thought to have first coined the name Syria Palaestina, 'Palestine' was a word used to describe an area like Munster, within Palestine lived many tribes such as Philistines, Israelites, Arabs & Babylonians. The modern state of Palestine was only configured in the late 80's. |
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Google uboats in Ireland its common knowledge they did not help the regime they helped a few submariners just happened to be uboats devalera was the first and one of a hand full of ppl to go to Berlin a d lay a wreath at the Reichstag for Hitler the west German national team away kit was green as a tribute to Ireland as the country that stood by them fact I'm as open minded as anyone and firmly believe that if u are under constant attack you have the rite to defend yourself its as simple as that |
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By *vsnikkiTV/TS
over a year ago
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now ireland did not help the nazi during ww2 in fact we declined an off from hitler to allow our port be used by nazi ships we also imprisoned nazi air men that landed in ireland after been shot down in the curragh camp so get you facts right before you spew your shite.
As for Israel ad Palestine. Israel wasnt even a country till 1947 when palistine was divided. and since then its has been doing land grabs of Palestinian lands and no body will say a word and those that do are called anti semites. i wonder how you would feel if ireland just started taking lands from counties north of the border ? because that is the exact same thing israel is doing its going against a border draw up after a conflict.
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It is quite well documented that German U boats refueled in Irish waters. It is also the case that the right for allied seaplane was granted to fly over Irish soil (albeit only after Us pressure).
And no, many of us in Northern Ireland would not like to be invaded by the Republic or any one else. You were presumably appalled at the Republic making a territorial claim to NI until recently. Not even Israel tries that! |
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By *aid backMan
over a year ago
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"Google uboats in Ireland its common knowledge they did not help the regime they helped a few submariners just happened to be uboats devalera was the first and one of a hand full of ppl to go to Berlin a d lay a wreath at the Reichstag for Hitler the west German national team away kit was green as a tribute to Ireland as the country that stood by them fact I'm as open minded as anyone and firmly believe that if u are under constant attack you have the rite to defend yourself its as simple as that "
a head of state placed a wreath for another head of state at a funeral
the Palestinians are under attack too from land grabs so they are allowed to defend themselves too ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Like most conflicts,it's all about money. War is money. No one should ever forget the holocaust and how much fear that instilled within the Jews. However,the Jews have become as bad as the nazis to a degree it could be argued. Salome |
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By *aid backMan
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"Like most conflicts,it's all about money. War is money. No one should ever forget the holocaust and how much fear that instilled within the Jews. However,the Jews have become as bad as the nazis to a degree it could be argued. Salome "
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Gazza going to Gaza that would be one for Ross kemp lol
Seen Romans mention what have the bloody Romans done cue month python,
Yes its horrifying that's kids are killed and another generation pulled into hatred but its a wee bit more than evil that some Palestinian woman and children using themselves as suicide bombers mothers basically donating their kids to the cause how can you support that.that area of the world has been at a state of war for near 3000 years a thousand years before new testament Christianity leave them too it boycotting Israeli goods hardly gonna break a nation |
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IDF arranging that meeting with Allah in paradise since 1948 lol
That's a joke BTW but read revalations its surprising how close to the mark it is today and if you know about the 7 seals and the end of days most theologist say the fourth seal is broke and all this Gaza jazz is just the next step but that's a matter of faith and religion which frankly I/we don't give a flying f about that country this country we look after this house |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Gazza going to Gaza that would be one for Ross kemp lol
Seen Romans mention what have the bloody Romans done cue month python,
Yes its horrifying that's kids are killed and another generation pulled into hatred but its a wee bit more than evil that some Palestinian woman and children using themselves as suicide bombers mothers basically donating their kids to the cause how can you support that.that area of the world has been at a state of war for near 3000 years a thousand years before new testament Christianity leave them too it boycotting Israeli goods hardly gonna break a nation"
In the 1980s, people of good conscience boycotted all goods from South Africa because of Apartheid. Twelve Dunnes workers stood up and said enough. They refused to have anything to do with produce from South Africa that they took to the streets and went on strike for two and a half years. What is happening today is no different. Israel commits atrocities yet they still sell their products here.
Three key features characterise Israeli apartheid:
* Four million Palestinians in the Occupied Territories lack the right to vote for the government that controls their lives through a military occupation. In addition to controlling the borders, air space, water, tax revenues, and other vital matters pertaining to the Occupied Territories, Israel alone issues the identity cards that determine the ability of Palestinians to work and their freedom of movement.
* About 1.2 million Palestinian Israelis, who make up 20 percent, or one-fifth, of Israel’s population, have second-class citizenship within Israel, which defines itself as a Jewish state rather than a state for all its citizens. More than 20 provisions of Israel’s principal laws discriminate, either directly or indirectly, against non-Jews, according to Adalah: The Legal Center for Minority Rights in Israel.
* Millions of Palestinians remain refugees in Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, and elsewhere, unable to return to their former homes and land in present-day Israel, even though the right of return for refugees is enshrined in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
We thought it was wrong then and it's wrong now. Israel is carrying out apartheid on Palestinian land, oppressing and terrorising the Palestinian people on a vast scale and it must be stopped.
If you wish to make a stand, a real stand, not like the numpties in the Dáil who say and do nothing, then hit them hardest....
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Really? I could have sworn the people of Gaza voted in the terrorist governance of Hamas as their rulers but hey, don't let the facts get in the way of your story. The West Bank is also I believe governed by the Palestinian Authority, both voted in democratically by the people.
Hamas have fired THOUSANDS of missiles & mortars into Israel & do so from school & hospital grounds as well as the middle of civilian neighbourhoods. They don't recognise Israel as a nation & have vowed to kill ALL Israelis, Hamas refuse to negotiate with Israel to bring peace. |
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To be honest people, unless you live there, you have no real idea what is going on, only what you hear and see in the media, so it is easy for you all to sit and pass judgement from the comfort of your armchair. |
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"Obviously we all can have our own views of the situation and I, as many others, view it with a different slant to that of the op. I do not see it as an unjust war. I view it as a just retaliation against a terrorist organization. Please do not take one video as "the truth". It is merely one version of the truth. "
Who are the terrorists? The people you would claim are defending themselves are doing so inside illegally occupied land. Israel is by any definition in any dictionary a terrorist state. They do not follow any rules of engagement, violate every rule of international law and murder civilians. They have one of the most sophisticated and well armed armies in the world, yet have managed to kill 180 innocent civilians in a week, while successfully shooting down every rocket fired at them.
Hamas is a terrorist organisation and would gladly kill Israelis if it was in their grasp, there is no justification for this.
The Palestinians have no voice though, as the Americans have strangled any voice they might have had in the UN since setting up the Zio-nazi state of Israel. Don't fall under the western delusion that Israel is a Jewish state, it is not, their treatment of Russian Jews is nothing short of disgusting, there are a huge amount of Jews around the world who don't recognise Israel, why do you think that is? Israel isn't a Jewish state, it's a Zionist state, founded to further the aims of America in the Middle East, fostered by the powerful Zionist families, who own America. Israel is the single most dangerous country in the world and is a terrorist state. You can either educate yourself or base your opinions on the world view that suits your needs, that's up to you. But between black and white there is truth! |
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"Obviously we all can have our own views of the situation and I, as many others, view it with a different slant to that of the op. I do not see it as an unjust war. I view it as a just retaliation against a terrorist organization. Please do not take one video as "the truth". It is merely one version of the truth.
Who are the terrorists? The people you would claim are defending themselves are doing so inside illegally occupied land. Israel is by any definition in any dictionary a terrorist state. They do not follow any rules of engagement, violate every rule of international law and murder civilians. They have one of the most sophisticated and well armed armies in the world, yet have managed to kill 180 innocent civilians in a week, while successfully shooting down every rocket fired at them.
Hamas is a terrorist organisation and would gladly kill Israelis if it was in their grasp, there is no justification for this.
The Palestinians have no voice though, as the Americans have strangled any voice they might have had in the UN since setting up the Zio-nazi state of Israel. Don't fall under the western delusion that Israel is a Jewish state, it is not, their treatment of Russian Jews is nothing short of disgusting, there are a huge amount of Jews around the world who don't recognise Israel, why do you think that is? Israel isn't a Jewish state, it's a Zionist state, founded to further the aims of America in the Middle East, fostered by the powerful Zionist families, who own America. Israel is the single most dangerous country in the world and is a terrorist state. You can either educate yourself or base your opinions on the world view that suits your needs, that's up to you. But between black and white there is truth! "
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"Obviously we all can have our own views of the situation and I, as many others, view it with a different slant to that of the op. I do not see it as an unjust war. I view it as a just retaliation against a terrorist organization. Please do not take one video as "the truth". It is merely one version of the truth.
Who are the terrorists? The people you would claim are defending themselves are doing so inside illegally occupied land. Israel is by any definition in any dictionary a terrorist state. They do not follow any rules of engagement, violate every rule of international law and murder civilians. They have one of the most sophisticated and well armed armies in the world, yet have managed to kill 180 innocent civilians in a week, while successfully shooting down every rocket fired at them.
Hamas is a terrorist organisation and would gladly kill Israelis if it was in their grasp, there is no justification for this.
The Palestinians have no voice though, as the Americans have strangled any voice they might have had in the UN since setting up the Zio-nazi state of Israel. Don't fall under the western delusion that Israel is a Jewish state, it is not, their treatment of Russian Jews is nothing short of disgusting, there are a huge amount of Jews around the world who don't recognise Israel, why do you think that is? Israel isn't a Jewish state, it's a Zionist state, founded to further the aims of America in the Middle East, fostered by the powerful Zionist families, who own America. Israel is the single most dangerous country in the world and is a terrorist state. You can either educate yourself or base your opinions on the world view that suits your needs, that's up to you. But between black and white there is truth! "
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By *andytownMan
over a year ago
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"Obviously we all can have our own views of the situation and I, as many others, view it with a different slant to that of the op. I do not see it as an unjust war. I view it as a just retaliation against a terrorist organization. Please do not take one video as "the truth". It is merely one version of the truth.
Who are the terrorists? The people you would claim are defending themselves are doing so inside illegally occupied land. Israel is by any definition in any dictionary a terrorist state. They do not follow any rules of engagement, violate every rule of international law and murder civilians. They have one of the most sophisticated and well armed armies in the world, yet have managed to kill 180 innocent civilians in a week, while successfully shooting down every rocket fired at them.
Hamas is a terrorist organisation and would gladly kill Israelis if it was in their grasp, there is no justification for this.
The Palestinians have no voice though, as the Americans have strangled any voice they might have had in the UN since setting up the Zio-nazi state of Israel. Don't fall under the western delusion that Israel is a Jewish state, it is not, their treatment of Russian Jews is nothing short of disgusting, there are a huge amount of Jews around the world who don't recognise Israel, why do you think that is? Israel isn't a Jewish state, it's a Zionist state, founded to further the aims of America in the Middle East, fostered by the powerful Zionist families, who own America. Israel is the single most dangerous country in the world and is a terrorist state. You can either educate yourself or base your opinions on the world view that suits your needs, that's up to you. But between black and white there is grey ! "
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By *vsnikkiTV/TS
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When you consider North Korea or Yemen I would say that Israel is neither a terrorist state nor the single most dangerous state in the world but I can appreciate how their actions upset many. I agree that people should base their opinions on more than one persons views. Many in Northern Ireland, that grew up there in the 1970s, will already be sceptical re the impartiality of the press. Don't take one view and be willing to question your beliefs. |
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"The sad thing is that innocent people and children are dying. It doesnt matter which side, but peace wont happen without talking"
I have to agree...
But I look at the horrific scenes on TV and I see why people become suicide bombers...If it was my baby they blew away without as much as a thought I know I'd be strapping myself and taking out as many as I could...so its all a vicious circle...For all sides  |
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"The sad thing is that innocent people and children are dying. It doesnt matter which side, but peace wont happen without talking
I have to agree...
But I look at the horrific scenes on TV and I see why people become suicide bombers...If it was my baby they blew away without as much as a thought I know I'd be strapping myself and taking out as many as I could...so its all a vicious circle...For all sides "
It is so true, it is easy for people to pass judgment when it isn't personal to them, once it is their views can easily change. |
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one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. people are pushed to extremism, not a lot of people, who feel they are being treated fairly, resort to extreme measure like suicide bombing. That's not excusing anyone but some responsibility needs to be accepted by the aggressors. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"When you consider North Korea or Yemen I would say that Israel is neither a terrorist state nor the single most dangerous state in the world but I can appreciate how their actions upset many. I agree that people should base their opinions on more than one persons views. Many in Northern Ireland, that grew up there in the 1970s, will already be sceptical re the impartiality of the press. Don't take one view and be willing to question your beliefs."
I agree wholeheartedly with your reference to the impartiality of the press,As I stated in my opening of this thread.
"Accept nothing without questioning it first" |
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"The sad thing is that innocent people and children are dying. It doesnt matter which side, but peace wont happen without talking
I have to agree...
But I look at the horrific scenes on TV and I see why people become suicide bombers...If it was my baby they blew away without as much as a thought I know I'd be strapping myself and taking out as many as I could...so its all a vicious circle...For all sides "
suppose it would it would be a change from the strapon and the explosion that it causes  |
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"Oh, and I laughed at your attempt to inflame opinion by waving the Apartheid flag."
I am by no means trying to inflame opinion.
If you take the time to read the full quotation and take the time to consider it,rather than misconstruing before replying in an argumentative tone,you will find that it is a response to a qustion about what good a boycott of goods will do.
The example of the Dunnes Stores workers concern in relation to South Africa and the use of a boycott had the affect of bringing wider attention to a humanitarian issue at that time. |
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By *vsnikkiTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Oh, and I laughed at your attempt to inflame opinion by waving the Apartheid flag.
I am by no means trying to inflame opinion.
If you take the time to read the full quotation and take the time to consider it,rather than misconstruing before replying in an argumentative tone,you will find that it is a response to a qustion about what good a boycott of goods will do.
The example of the Dunnes Stores workers concern in relation to South Africa and the use of a boycott had the affect of bringing wider attention to a humanitarian issue at that time. "
I must admit that I read your "Dunnes" piece as an example of collective moral action rather than trying for the apartheid card BUT I do not see individual boycotting of goods as financially effective. Both sides have too many international supporters to make sanctions effective equally. I think that finally diplomatic work will gain a "peace" much as it has here. Similarly I think it will be a 20 year "peace" before one side decides they are not getting what they want. |
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the biggesst lobby group in the us are jews, they own 80% of us wealth, in fact if truth be known, they own a quite substantial amount of the worlds wealth, because of their financial clout they are capable of influencing certain governments stance on israel and its ongoing conflict with the palestinians i.e us and britain, i believe if these states called their bluff, peace in that region would be a reality, after all, if the jews took their money out of these states, where would they go, nobody wants them and never have |
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Its the Jewish money and oil from the general mid east region that has kept America interested in Israel, now that the US are becoming self sufficient in oil will they eventually lose interest in Israel like they have in the gulf states |
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its not just oil that the jews have their fingers in, its also diamonds and gold harvested off the backs of downtrodden people all over, yet they claim to be the victims of tyranny and oppression over centuries, indeed most of the wealthy jews have trodden on their own and hid their identity for the sake of that wealth |
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"its not just oil that the jews have their fingers in, its also diamonds and gold harvested off the backs of downtrodden people all over, yet they claim to be the victims of tyranny and oppression over centuries, indeed most of the wealthy jews have trodden on their own and hid their identity for the sake of that wealth"
Were you quoting from "Mein Kampf" or is this your own idea? |
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"... However,the Jews have become as bad as the nazis to a degree it could be argued. Salome
Ridiculous statement. What's Salome?"
What's ridiculous about that statement ? |
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Its the Jewish money and oil from the general mid east region that has kept America interested in Israel, now that the US are becoming self sufficient in oil will they eventually lose interest in Israel like they have in the gulf states"
I think it's more the Jewish vote in America that keeps the interest |
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"When you consider North Korea or Yemen I would say that Israel is neither a terrorist state nor the single most dangerous state in the world but I can appreciate how their actions upset many. I agree that people should base their opinions on more than one persons views. Many in Northern Ireland, that grew up there in the 1970s, will already be sceptical re the impartiality of the press. Don't take one view and be willing to question your beliefs."
North Korea have done exactly what to destabilize the world or there region? The only threat North Korea pose is to their own people, anything else is just western propoganda. If you're referring to their annual saber rattling, again I'd suggest you educate yourself further as to what happens prior to that. If two countries you see as aggressors and a threat to you, have a massive military show of strength on your borders? You may get slightly paranoid. This happens every year, with the US seventh fleet and ground forces, it is intimidation on a massive scale. America is the school yard bully who kicks the kid and then goes running to the teacher if they react. North Korea has never done anything outside it's borders, America has had a hand or part in every war on this planet since 1945, yet I should be scared of North Korea? I think you need to open your eyes.
Read up a bit on the Lebanon, the only truely secular society in the Middle East, a shining hope for what might be in that region, which Israel destroyed! Israel has aggressively expanded beyond it's borders with impunity for more than 50 years, yet you see Yemen as more of a threat, why? |
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"When you consider North Korea or Yemen I would say that Israel is neither a terrorist state nor the single most dangerous state in the world but I can appreciate how their actions upset many. I agree that people should base their opinions on more than one persons views. Many in Northern Ireland, that grew up there in the 1970s, will already be sceptical re the impartiality of the press. Don't take one view and be willing to question your beliefs.
North Korea have done exactly what to destabilize the world or there region? The only threat North Korea pose is to their own people, anything else is just western propoganda. If you're referring to their annual saber rattling, again I'd suggest you educate yourself further as to what happens prior to that. If two countries you see as aggressors and a threat to you, have a massive military show of strength on your borders? You may get slightly paranoid. This happens every year, with the US seventh fleet and ground forces, it is intimidation on a massive scale. America is the school yard bully who kicks the kid and then goes running to the teacher if they react. North Korea has never done anything outside it's borders, America has had a hand or part in every war on this planet since 1945, yet I should be scared of North Korea? I think you need to open your eyes.
Read up a bit on the Lebanon, the only truely secular society in the Middle East, a shining hope for what might be in that region, which Israel destroyed! Israel has aggressively expanded beyond it's borders with impunity for more than 50 years, yet you see Yemen as more of a threat, why? "
Ah, The Lebanon. Didn't the Islamist militants allow the PLO terrorists to base themselves there so they could continue to attack Israel? Which in turn destabilized their own country which descended into civil war with Christians fighting Muslims. This went on for 7 years with constant PLO attacks on Israel until Israel said 'Enough' & invaded. I'm guessing it wasn't very shiny after 7 years of civil war. |
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"When you consider North Korea or Yemen I would say that Israel is neither a terrorist state nor the single most dangerous state in the world but I can appreciate how their actions upset many. I agree that people should base their opinions on more than one persons views. Many in Northern Ireland, that grew up there in the 1970s, will already be sceptical re the impartiality of the press. Don't take one view and be willing to question your beliefs.
North Korea have done exactly what to destabilize the world or there region? The only threat North Korea pose is to their own people, anything else is just western propoganda. If you're referring to their annual saber rattling, again I'd suggest you educate yourself further as to what happens prior to that. If two countries you see as aggressors and a threat to you, have a massive military show of strength on your borders? You may get slightly paranoid. This happens every year, with the US seventh fleet and ground forces, it is intimidation on a massive scale. America is the school yard bully who kicks the kid and then goes running to the teacher if they react. North Korea has never done anything outside it's borders, America has had a hand or part in every war on this planet since 1945, yet I should be scared of North Korea? I think you need to open your eyes.
Read up a bit on the Lebanon, the only truely secular society in the Middle East, a shining hope for what might be in that region, which Israel destroyed! Israel has aggressively expanded beyond it's borders with impunity for more than 50 years, yet you see Yemen as more of a threat, why? "
To answer your questions.
The reason I see North Korea as a threat is because it is a country that spends such a disparate part of its income on armed forces that a poor harvest can only be covered by starving it's population or invading it's neighbour's. The fact that it is still at war is of course another threat!
I find Yemen a threat because of its state funding of terrorism.
I am always ready to read more about history and I, and my work colleagues, consider that I am reasonably informed although I feel a bit weak on south American finance post 1960 |
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"When you consider North Korea or Yemen I would say that Israel is neither a terrorist state nor the single most dangerous state in the world but I can appreciate how their actions upset many. I agree that people should base their opinions on more than one persons views. Many in Northern Ireland, that grew up there in the 1970s, will already be sceptical re the impartiality of the press. Don't take one view and be willing to question your beliefs.
North Korea have done exactly what to destabilize the world or there region? The only threat North Korea pose is to their own people, anything else is just western propoganda. If you're referring to their annual saber rattling, again I'd suggest you educate yourself further as to what happens prior to that. If two countries you see as aggressors and a threat to you, have a massive military show of strength on your borders? You may get slightly paranoid. This happens every year, with the US seventh fleet and ground forces, it is intimidation on a massive scale. America is the school yard bully who kicks the kid and then goes running to the teacher if they react. North Korea has never done anything outside it's borders, America has had a hand or part in every war on this planet since 1945, yet I should be scared of North Korea? I think you need to open your eyes.
Read up a bit on the Lebanon, the only truely secular society in the Middle East, a shining hope for what might be in that region, which Israel destroyed! Israel has aggressively expanded beyond it's borders with impunity for more than 50 years, yet you see Yemen as more of a threat, why? "
To answer your questions.
The reason I see North Korea as a threat is because it is a country that spends such a disparate part of its income on armed forces that a poor harvest can only be covered by starving it's population or invading it's neighbour's. The fact that it is still at war is of course another threat!
I find Yemen a threat because of its state funding of terrorism.
I am always ready to read more about history and I, and my work colleagues, consider that I am reasonably informed although I feel a bit weak on south American finance post 1960 |
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"When you consider North Korea or Yemen I would say that Israel is neither a terrorist state nor the single most dangerous state in the world but I can appreciate how their actions upset many. I agree that people should base their opinions on more than one persons views. Many in Northern Ireland, that grew up there in the 1970s, will already be sceptical re the impartiality of the press. Don't take one view and be willing to question your beliefs.
North Korea have done exactly what to destabilize the world or there region? The only threat North Korea pose is to their own people, anything else is just western propoganda. If you're referring to their annual saber rattling, again I'd suggest you educate yourself further as to what happens prior to that. If two countries you see as aggressors and a threat to you, have a massive military show of strength on your borders? You may get slightly paranoid. This happens every year, with the US seventh fleet and ground forces, it is intimidation on a massive scale. America is the school yard bully who kicks the kid and then goes running to the teacher if they react. North Korea has never done anything outside it's borders, America has had a hand or part in every war on this planet since 1945, yet I should be scared of North Korea? I think you need to open your eyes.
Read up a bit on the Lebanon, the only truely secular society in the Middle East, a shining hope for what might be in that region, which Israel destroyed! Israel has aggressively expanded beyond it's borders with impunity for more than 50 years, yet you see Yemen as more of a threat, why? "
To answer your questions.
The reason I see North Korea as a threat is because it is a country that spends such a disparate part of its income on armed forces that a poor harvest can only be covered by starving it's population or invading it's neighbour's. The fact that it is still at war is of course another threat!
I find Yemen a threat because of its state funding of terrorism.
I am always ready to read more about history and I, and my work colleagues, consider that I am reasonably informed although I feel a bit weak on south American finance post 1960 |
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"When you consider North Korea or Yemen I would say that Israel is neither a terrorist state nor the single most dangerous state in the world but I can appreciate how their actions upset many. I agree that people should base their opinions on more than one persons views. Many in Northern Ireland, that grew up there in the 1970s, will already be sceptical re the impartiality of the press. Don't take one view and be willing to question your beliefs.
North Korea have done exactly what to destabilize the world or there region? The only threat North Korea pose is to their own people, anything else is just western propoganda. If you're referring to their annual saber rattling, again I'd suggest you educate yourself further as to what happens prior to that. If two countries you see as aggressors and a threat to you, have a massive military show of strength on your borders? You may get slightly paranoid. This happens every year, with the US seventh fleet and ground forces, it is intimidation on a massive scale. America is the school yard bully who kicks the kid and then goes running to the teacher if they react. North Korea has never done anything outside it's borders, America has had a hand or part in every war on this planet since 1945, yet I should be scared of North Korea? I think you need to open your eyes.
Read up a bit on the Lebanon, the only truely secular society in the Middle East, a shining hope for what might be in that region, which Israel destroyed! Israel has aggressively expanded beyond it's borders with impunity for more than 50 years, yet you see Yemen as more of a threat, why?
To answer your questions.
The reason I see North Korea as a threat is because it is a country that spends such a disparate part of its income on armed forces that a poor harvest can only be covered by starving it's population or invading it's neighbour's. The fact that it is still at war is of course another threat!
I find Yemen a threat because of its state funding of terrorism.
I am always ready to read more about history and I, and my work colleagues, consider that I am reasonably informed although I feel a bit weak on south American finance post 1960"
Saudi Arabia supplied 75% of the 9/11 attackers, Osama Bin Laden was a member of the Saudi Royal Family, a very large portion of Al Queda funding comes out of Saudi?
A huge portion of the US national debt is military debt, in fact they spend more per capita on the military than any nation on the planet, your criteria for what does and dose'nt constitute a terrorist state, seems to vary based on ideology rather than logic? |
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over a year ago
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Don't disagree with you re Saudi. You asked why I felt Yemen was a threat.
US citizens do not face widespread famine and I would not clasify it as a major threat as a result of harvest failure.
My assessment is not ideological but I would find generally that the more extreme the rule, the greater the threat |
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"Don't disagree with you re Saudi. You asked why I felt Yemen was a threat.
US citizens do not face widespread famine and I would not clasify it as a major threat as a result of harvest failure.
My assessment is not ideological but I would find generally that the more extreme the rule, the greater the threat"
And yet the country that supposedly has the most freedom or least extreme rule, has been involved on every conflict in the world for the last 70 years.
As for Saudi, they are the facts, it's not really a case of agreeing or disagreeing, that's like saying you don't agree water is wet, your entitled to your opinion but it doesn't change the fact if you get in it, you're going to get wet. |
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I don't see what all this Israel bashing is about. As a people the Jews have been persecuted throughout history. They were given land by the Allies after World War Two. They've founded a state and defended it against numerous enemies.
I read a report stating that over a thousand rockets have neen fired into Israel recently and they have no right to retaliate?
Hamas are a terrorist organisation and Palestine are failing miserably to stop these rocket attacks. Therefore Israel has the right to protect it's citizens and cities. I fully support them, unfortunately children have been killed but such is war a weapon does not distinguish between man or boy. I don't see what options they have.
Israel possess one of the world's finest war machines why would they not use it when under attack. |
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"I don't see what all this Israel bashing is about. As a people the Jews have been persecuted throughout history. They were given land by the Allies after World War Two. They've founded a state and defended it against numerous enemies.
I read a report stating that over a thousand rockets have neen fired into Israel recently and they have no right to retaliate?
Hamas are a terrorist organisation and Palestine are failing miserably to stop these rocket attacks. Therefore Israel has the right to protect it's citizens and cities. I fully support them, unfortunately children have been killed but such is war a weapon does not distinguish between man or boy. I don't see what options they have.
Israel possess one of the world's finest war machines why would they not use it when under attack. "
Slight correction to one of the many many inaccuracies in that, 1000 rockets fired at, not into the occupied territories. With not one death! So an appropriate response is too kill 250 Palestinians, mostly women an children.
Oh and one other important correction it wasn't given to the Jews, it was given to the zionists. I'll be up later to give your house to travellers, who have been persecuted, seeing as you don't have a problem with the concept of people taking things that don't belong to them, to give them to persecuted minorities. |
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And yet the country that supposedly has the most freedom or least extreme rule, has been involved on every conflict in the world for the last 70 years.
As for Saudi, they are the facts, it's not really a case of agreeing or disagreeing, that's like saying you don't agree water is wet, your entitled to your opinion but it doesn't change the fact if you get in it, you're going to get wet. "
If you read, you would see I agreed with you about Saudi
If you meant the USA had been in every conflict in 70years you are making up facts. Try Rwanda, Falkland War, Rhodesian/Zimbabwe war, Sino_Russo conflicts or the Russo Afghan War |
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And yet the country that supposedly has the most freedom or least extreme rule, has been involved on every conflict in the world for the last 70 years.
As for Saudi, they are the facts, it's not really a case of agreeing or disagreeing, that's like saying you don't agree water is wet, your entitled to your opinion but it doesn't change the fact if you get in it, you're going to get wet.
If you read, you would see I agreed with you about Saudi
If you meant the USA had been in every conflict in 70years you are making up facts. Try Rwanda, Falkland War, Rhodesian/Zimbabwe war, Sino_Russo conflicts or the Russo Afghan War"
I stand corrected on Rodhesia, that one was Britain and the Falklands wasn't a war. As for Afghanistan once again you need to read your history a little closer, where do you think the Taliban and Al Queda came from? Oh yes that would be CIA arms and Funding, which by the way was also the genesis of the Rwanden conflict, which ended in the genicide. So yes they were involved, just because they don't have troops on the ground, does not mean they aren't involved. |
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"I don't see what all this Israel bashing is about. As a people the Jews have been persecuted throughout history. They were given land by the Allies after World War Two. They've founded a state and defended it against numerous enemies.
I read a report stating that over a thousand rockets have neen fired into Israel recently and they have no right to retaliate?
Hamas are a terrorist organisation and Palestine are failing miserably to stop these rocket attacks. Therefore Israel has the right to protect it's citizens and cities. I fully support them, unfortunately children have been killed but such is war a weapon does not distinguish between man or boy. I don't see what options they have.
Israel possess one of the world's finest war machines why would they not use it when under attack.
Slight correction to one of the many many inaccuracies in that, 1000 rockets fired at, not into the occupied territories. With not one death! So an appropriate response is too kill 250 Palestinians, mostly women an children.
Oh and one other important correction it wasn't given to the Jews, it was given to the zionists. I'll be up later to give your house to travellers, who have been persecuted, seeing as you don't have a problem with the concept of people taking things that don't belong to them, to give them to persecuted minorities. "
It's irrelevant whether into or at haha. The fact remains that Israel was attacked and has mobilised it's forces to defend itself.
The distinguishing factor here is Hamas are a bunch of monkeys playing with weapons they annot correctly use much like the Russian separatists in Ukraine.
I can see by your bigoted response that you are a one track minded kind of fellow and that everyone who disagrees with you is wrong. Kind of funny really because that's the sort of behaviour that initiates war and conflict in the first place 
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And yet the country that supposedly has the most freedom or least extreme rule, has been involved on every conflict in the world for the last 70 years.
As for Saudi, they are the facts, it's not really a case of agreeing or disagreeing, that's like saying you don't agree water is wet, your entitled to your opinion but it doesn't change the fact if you get in it, you're going to get wet.
If you read, you would see I agreed with you about Saudi
If you meant the USA had been in every conflict in 70years you are making up facts. Try Rwanda, Falkland War, Rhodesian/Zimbabwe war, Sino_Russo conflicts or the Russo Afghan War
I stand corrected on Rodhesia, that one was Britain and the Falklands wasn't a war. As for Afghanistan once again you need to read your history a little closer, where do you think the Taliban and Al Queda came from? Oh yes that would be CIA arms and Funding, which by the way was also the genesis of the Rwanden conflict, which ended in the genicide. So yes they were involved, just because they don't have troops on the ground, does not mean they aren't involved. "
Mr69: How wasn't the Falklands a war? More rubbish. What history books do you get in Ireland? |
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And yet the country that supposedly has the most freedom or least extreme rule, has been involved on every conflict in the world for the last 70 years.
As for Saudi, they are the facts, it's not really a case of agreeing or disagreeing, that's like saying you don't agree water is wet, your entitled to your opinion but it doesn't change the fact if you get in it, you're going to get wet.
If you read, you would see I agreed with you about Saudi
If you meant the USA had been in every conflict in 70years you are making up facts. Try Rwanda, Falkland War, Rhodesian/Zimbabwe war, Sino_Russo conflicts or the Russo Afghan War
I stand corrected on Rodhesia, that one was Britain and the Falklands wasn't a war. As for Afghanistan once again you need to read your history a little closer, where do you think the Taliban and Al Queda came from? Oh yes that would be CIA arms and Funding, which by the way was also the genesis of the Rwanden conflict, which ended in the genicide. So yes they were involved, just because they don't have troops on the ground, does not mean they aren't involved.
Mr69: How wasn't the Falklands a war? More rubbish. What history books do you get in Ireland?"
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By *vsnikkiTV/TS
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Britain was not involved in the Rhodesian/Zimbabwe war and there are many people of my generation feel that the Falkland was most certainly a war. It certainly involved bayonet fighting and prisoners of war. I concede the point on Russo Afghan War. I think we can agree to disagree on our view of world conflict and the middle east in particular. Fun to have argued the toss. Now it's time to get laid! |
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"The State of Israel in it's current form and in modern history is there since 1947,pehaps my posting which included mention of the second world war and the link to the you tube video didn't quiet explain it clearly,my apologies."
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"Of course,though I might add that my view is based on historical fact.
Pity you couldn't even spell Israel, or I might even have had a look."
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"I don't see what all this Israel bashing is about. As a people the Jews have been persecuted throughout history. They were given land by the Allies after World War Two. They've founded a state and defended it against numerous enemies.
I read a report stating that over a thousand rockets have neen fired into Israel recently and they have no right to retaliate?
Hamas are a terrorist organisation and Palestine are failing miserably to stop these rocket attacks. Therefore Israel has the right to protect it's citizens and cities. I fully support them, unfortunately children have been killed but such is war a weapon does not distinguish between man or boy. I don't see what options they have.
Israel possess one of the world's finest war machines why would they not use it when under attack.
Slight correction to one of the many many inaccuracies in that, 1000 rockets fired at, not into the occupied territories. With not one death! So an appropriate response is too kill 250 Palestinians, mostly women an children.
Oh and one other important correction it wasn't given to the Jews, it was given to the zionists. I'll be up later to give your house to travellers, who have been persecuted, seeing as you don't have a problem with the concept of people taking things that don't belong to them, to give them to persecuted minorities.
It's irrelevant whether into or at haha. The fact remains that Israel was attacked and has mobilised it's forces to defend itself.
The distinguishing factor here is Hamas are a bunch of monkeys playing with weapons they annot correctly use much like the Russian separatists in Ukraine.
I can see by your bigoted response that you are a one track minded kind of fellow and that everyone who disagrees with you is wrong. Kind of funny really because that's the sort of behaviour that initiates war and conflict in the first place
There are always two sides and I can see the Palestine point of view but I can also see Israels"
Bigoted response? Clearly you have no idea what the word means but it sounded good so you'll use it anyway hey.
Hamas are using inefficient weapons yes this is true, they don't have a navy or army, or $15 billion dollar budget for weaponry, does that make them monkeys? No, I think you'll find that's just ignorant racism on your part! The fact remains not one Israeli has died yet the Palestinian death toll from Israel using it's advanced weaponry is over 250? Hmm see something wrong with that picture? No I don't suppose you do.
You are perfectly entitled to your opinion and I can see you're clearly the sort of fellow who will never let facts get in the way of that. I don't play chess with pidgeons, so I'll leave you to it |
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Mr69: How wasn't the Falklands a war? More rubbish. What history books do you get in Ireland?"
Well it was a war in the sense of me walking up and punching Mike Tyson would be a fight! |
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Mr69: How wasn't the Falklands a war? More rubbish. What history books do you get in Ireland?
Well it was a war in the sense of me walking up and punching Mike Tyson would be a fight! "
I actually find that quite offensive. It was a war. It was short but the Falklands were occupied against the wishes of its occupiers and many people died and many others were left with permanent injuries. To compare it to a punch up is insulting. You may not agree with the actions but please don't insult the men from both sides. It definitely felt like war |
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Mr69: How wasn't the Falklands a war? More rubbish. What history books do you get in Ireland?
Well it was a war in the sense of me walking up and punching Mike Tyson would be a fight!
I actually find that quite offensive. It was a war. It was short but the Falklands were occupied against the wishes of its occupiers and many people died and many others were left with permanent injuries. To compare it to a punch up is insulting. You may not agree with the actions but please don't insult the men from both sides. It definitely felt like war"
Yes many died on the Belgrano alright, the Argentinians were mostly conscripted kids, with poor training and no proper command. It should have and never would have been a war at all, except Thatcher wanted a distraction at home and to galvanize opinion in her favour. Incase you missed it, the reference was the relative strengths of combatants, not comparing it to a punch up! |
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Mr69: How wasn't the Falklands a war? More rubbish. What history books do you get in Ireland?
Well it was a war in the sense of me walking up and punching Mike Tyson would be a fight!
I actually find that quite offensive. It was a war. It was short but the Falklands were occupied against the wishes of its occupiers and many people died and many others were left with permanent injuries. To compare it to a punch up is insulting. You may not agree with the actions but please don't insult the men from both sides. It definitely felt like war
Yes many died on the Belgrano alright, the Argentinians were mostly conscripted kids, with poor training and no proper command. It should have and never would have been a war at all, except Thatcher wanted a distraction at home and to galvanize opinion in her favour. Incase you missed it, the reference was the relative strengths of combatants, not comparing it to a punch up! "
It was always going to be a war. The Argentinian government always use it to stir up patriotism during elections. The British weren't going to be seen to allow an overseas territory to be invaded. |
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By *vsnikkiTV/TS
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Mr69: How wasn't the Falklands a war? More rubbish. What history books do you get in Ireland?
Well it was a war in the sense of me walking up and punching Mike Tyson would be a fight!
I actually find that quite offensive. It was a war. It was short but the Falklands were occupied against the wishes of its occupiers and many people died and many others were left with permanent injuries. To compare it to a punch up is insulting. You may not agree with the actions but please don't insult the men from both sides. It definitely felt like war
Yes many died on the Belgrano alright, the Argentinians were mostly conscripted kids, with poor training and no proper command. It should have and never would have been a war at all, except Thatcher wanted a distraction at home and to galvanize opinion in her favour. Incase you missed it, the reference was the relative strengths of combatants, not comparing it to a punch up! "
Sorry I hadn't realized that war was size related. That by your definition would mean that the Israeli invasion of Gaza was not war although you describe it as such. You suggest to other people that they should be open minded. I would prompt you to take your own advice. |
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"I don't see what all this Israel bashing is about. As a people the Jews have been persecuted throughout history. They were given land by the Allies after World War Two. They've founded a state and defended it against numerous enemies.
I read a report stating that over a thousand rockets have neen fired into Israel recently and they have no right to retaliate?
Hamas are a terrorist organisation and Palestine are failing miserably to stop these rocket attacks. Therefore Israel has the right to protect it's citizens and cities. I fully support them, unfortunately children have been killed but such is war a weapon does not distinguish between man or boy. I don't see what options they have.
Israel possess one of the world's finest war machines why would they not use it when under attack.
Slight correction to one of the many many inaccuracies in that, 1000 rockets fired at, not into the occupied territories. With not one death! So an appropriate response is too kill 250 Palestinians, mostly women an children.
Oh and one other important correction it wasn't given to the Jews, it was given to the zionists. I'll be up later to give your house to travellers, who have been persecuted, seeing as you don't have a problem with the concept of people taking things that don't belong to them, to give them to persecuted minorities.
It's irrelevant whether into or at haha. The fact remains that Israel was attacked and has mobilised it's forces to defend itself.
The distinguishing factor here is Hamas are a bunch of monkeys playing with weapons they annot correctly use much like the Russian separatists in Ukraine.
I can see by your bigoted response that you are a one track minded kind of fellow and that everyone who disagrees with you is wrong. Kind of funny really because that's the sort of behaviour that initiates war and conflict in the first place
There are always two sides and I can see the Palestine point of view but I can also see Israels
Bigoted response? Clearly you have no idea what the word means but it sounded good so you'll use it anyway hey.
Hamas are using inefficient weapons yes this is true, they don't have a navy or army, or $15 billion dollar budget for weaponry, does that make them monkeys? No, I think you'll find that's just ignorant racism on your part! The fact remains not one Israeli has died yet the Palestinian death toll from Israel using it's advanced weaponry is over 250? Hmm see something wrong with that picture? No I don't suppose you do.
You are perfectly entitled to your opinion and I can see you're clearly the sort of fellow who will never let facts get in the way of that. I don't play chess with pidgeons, so I'll leave you to it "
You seem to be ignoring the fact that Israel is defending itself from attack. I watched the conflict and made my own opinions based on facts, quite honestly the majority of your post is not worth replying to, too bitchy for me mate, well whatever gets you off I suppose |
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having never read the said doctrine of adolf, i can assure you it was not a quote, however it must be remembered that hitlers manifesto was built on the struggle that german people were experiencing at the time, there was a total embargo on their state form the rest of the world and were in real danger of being invaded by russia, who felt they could cured their ills. history has been written by many people, each with their own version, but the reality is that ww2 happened because the german people got a leader who could lead them out of poverty and oppression and make them a a power again, unfortunately that guy was a fanatic, but his reasoning was in the fact that the jews, especially in america, and also in germany, were controlling every germans life, or lack of |
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What terrorist organisation?????
They are elected by palestine citizens
If there is one terrorist in this war that is israel killing innocent children and civils
3 kids playing games on the beach
And sending bombs upon them
YOU SHOULD BE QUIET WHEN KIDS SLEEPS NOT WHEN THEY ARE DYING
BE A HUMAN AND DONT CLOSE YOUR EYES TO THIS GENOCIDE
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"Really? I could have sworn the people of Gaza voted in the terrorist governance of Hamas as their rulers but hey, don't let the facts get in the way of your story. The West Bank is also I believe governed by the Palestinian Authority, both voted in democratically by the people.
Hamas have fired THOUSANDS of missiles & mortars into Israel & do so from school & hospital grounds as well as the middle of civilian neighbourhoods. They don't recognise Israel as a nation & have vowed to kill ALL Israelis, Hamas refuse to negotiate with Israel to bring peace. "
You listen to much tv news
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"Tbh this is a sex site not a place for issues like this
Thought this was a swing site not a sex site , hhmmmm am I missing something here 
Mrs crazy  "
Fuck me can just imagine all you lot at a party and someone makes a wrong comment....now that would end up a war! ( joke by the way, that's if anyone still has a sense of humour at the end of this thread, which I have read fully)
I appreciate everyone has and is entitled to their opinion, but, more fucking less fighting on this site 
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"Tbh this is a sex site not a place for issues like this
Thought this was a swing site not a sex site , hhmmmm am I missing something here
Mrs crazy
Fuck me can just imagine all you lot at a party and someone makes a wrong comment....now that would end up a war! ( joke by the way, that's if anyone still has a sense of humour at the end of this thread, which I have read fully)
I appreciate everyone has and is entitled to their opinion, but, more fucking less fighting on this site
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