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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Just reading about the botched execution of the man in Oklahoma. Just wondering what the opinion is regarding the death penalty?
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in all honesty it should be back in this country. |
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I've always been against it, the whole taking one life with another doesn't sit well with me, but crimes nowadays just get sicker n sicker. I always thought that the person deserves to live their life in prison living with their crime but sadly alot of them I imagine feel no remorse. |
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my opinion is divided, when they gave those men in india who gang raped that young girl on a bus and then threw her off it and left her to die I thought they deserved everything they got, people who commit that type of crime are just wastes of good oxygen in my opinion. I'm not religious and I'm not that sentimental about humans, if someone is a danger to others I don't think they should be allowed to have any oppurtunity to life, then again with wrongful convictions happening all the time if someone is put to death who is then found innocent of that crime it's unthinkable! I find it hard to be totally for one way or the other. |
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"Just reading about the botched execution of the man in Oklahoma. Just wondering what the opinion is regarding the death penalty?
in all honesty it should be back in this country.
Really? If it was maybe ian bailey wud b dead by now for killing sophie du plontier"
Was he found guilty of something? |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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"No human should have the right to take another's life.
It is assumed that 3-5% of death row inmates in America are innocent or wrongly convicted."
I would imagine its alot higher.wat with the fucked up racists american justice system |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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"Just reading about the botched execution of the man in Oklahoma. Just wondering what the opinion is regarding the death penalty?
in all honesty it should be back in this country.
Really? If it was maybe ian bailey wud b dead by now for killing sophie du plontier
Was he found guilty of something?"
Well not because of a lack of trying by crooked cops
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By (user no longer on site)
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First thought: I'm against it and judging from the number of murders in the US it doesn't really stop people from killing each other.
But if someone I love would be brutally murdered I may change my mind. I don't know.
No wonder there are always disputes about this, I can't even make up my own mind ffs |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"First thought: I'm against it and judging from the number of murders in the US it doesn't really stop people from killing each other.
But if someone I love would be brutally murdered I may change my mind. I don't know.
No wonder there are always disputes about this, I can't even make up my own mind ffs"
that is exactly how I feel , and it is always easy to think a certain way about something when you don't have a personal attachment, it can certainly change your opinion once it happens to you. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Just reading about the botched execution of the man in Oklahoma. Just wondering what the opinion is regarding the death penalty?
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There's no place for the death penalty in a modern society. I might wish some people dead for what they've done but a government should not kill people full stop. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"No human should have the right to take another's life.
It is assumed that 3-5% of death row inmates in America are innocent or wrongly convicted.
I would imagine its alot higher.wat with the fucked up racists american justice system"
This is the number they are working with as proof emerges over the years.
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By (user no longer on site)
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maybe it would be better for the family of the victim to decide wether they should receive the death penalty or not. Anyone watch that pscyhopath night on more4 recently? Or the louis theroux doc on paedophiles? Should these people have a right to life? Who knows. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Ok, so someone murders someone and we straight off spend hundreds of thousands of pounds, providing them with legal representation. They're convicted and we then spend £40,000 a year to keep them in Jail, for the next how long? They're fed better than most, kept warm, receive medical attention, provided with free recreation faciities etc etc etc YET the NHS won't pay for Cancer beating medication, as they can't justify the cost?? Morally there's something wrong there.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"No human should have the right to take another's life.
It is assumed that 3-5% of death row inmates in America are innocent or wrongly convicted.
I would imagine its alot higher.wat with the fucked up racists american justice system"
You may also be surprised to hear that there are more white people on the U.S. death row than black people & that in the last 40 years nearly twice as many white people have been executed. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ok, so someone murders someone and we straight off spend hundreds of thousands of pounds, providing them with legal representation. They're convicted and we then spend £40,000 a year to keep them in Jail, for the next how long? They're fed better than most, kept warm, receive medical attention, provided with free recreation faciities etc etc etc YET the NHS won't pay for Cancer beating medication, as they can't justify the cost?? Morally there's something wrong there...."
And if they're innocent?? |
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mr here the main problem vis there has been too many innocent people jailed and or put to death only to be found out afterwards that's why I would be against death penalty. but saying that if someone did anything to a loved one I think the law would be the least of their worries and before its said that id have to know for sure that they did it thats what waterboarding is for  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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America the so called land of the free. The US government/system is rotten to the core. Goin around causing wars around the world for their own self interests and preaching renditions in other country's when they execute at will. They claim to have the most sophisticated army in the world and billions spent on NASA every year and they can't even administer the correct drugs to execute. In New Orleans they gave the poor people the two fingers after the floods. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Time after time it's has being proved,they got the wrong person, apart from all that,the US government bangs on about human rights,wonder how they define this one. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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In England in the 70s they wanted to bring back the death penalty for the Guildford 4 and Birmingham 6, if they did 10 innocent people would have died after another rotten system framed them. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ok, so someone murders someone and we straight off spend hundreds of thousands of pounds, providing them with legal representation. They're convicted and we then spend £40,000 a year to keep them in Jail, for the next how long? They're fed better than most, kept warm, receive medical attention, provided with free recreation faciities etc etc etc YET the NHS won't pay for Cancer beating medication, as they can't justify the cost?? Morally there's something wrong there....
And if they're innocent??"
If they're innocent, they should be able to prove it. Remember the burden of proof is beyond reasonable doubt, to a jury of your peers. For the greater good of all, is the saying that comes to mind... |
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"Ok, so someone murders someone and we straight off spend hundreds of thousands of pounds, providing them with legal representation. They're convicted and we then spend £40,000 a year to keep them in Jail, for the next how long? They're fed better than most, kept warm, receive medical attention, provided with free recreation faciities etc etc etc YET the NHS won't pay for Cancer beating medication, as they can't justify the cost?? Morally there's something wrong there....
And if they're innocent??
If they're innocent, they should be able to prove it. Remember the burden of proof is beyond reasonable doubt, to a jury of your peers. For the greater good of all, is the saying that comes to mind..."
Plenty of innocent people can't manage to "prove" their innocence in court. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"That guy buried that poor girl alive ... He got what he deserved
And forced her to watch them digging it "
good lord, I hadnt read the details of this case yet, that poor woman, ending he life praying for death, unimaginable, the evil that human beings do to another never fails to sicken me. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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See, this is what annoys me. People get aquitted in the criminal courts, or have convictions overturned, having been found to be 'unsafe' and are decreed as being innocent. Yet a large number of these cases are then pursued by victims in the civil courts, where the burden of proof is "in all probability" and the courts find in favour of the victim. Is that innocent? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ok, so someone murders someone and we straight off spend hundreds of thousands of pounds, providing them with legal representation. They're convicted and we then spend £40,000 a year to keep them in Jail, for the next how long? They're fed better than most, kept warm, receive medical attention, provided with free recreation faciities etc etc etc YET the NHS won't pay for Cancer beating medication, as they can't justify the cost?? Morally there's something wrong there....
And if they're innocent??
If they're innocent, they should be able to prove it. Remember the burden of proof is beyond reasonable doubt, to a jury of your peers. For the greater good of all, is the saying that comes to mind...
Plenty of innocent people can't manage to "prove" their innocence in court. "
Equally plenty of guilty people get good lawyers and can "prove" they are "not" guilty. The law sucks and not in a good way!  |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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"See, this is what annoys me. People get aquitted in the criminal courts, or have convictions overturned, having been found to be 'unsafe' and are decreed as being innocent. Yet a large number of these cases are then pursued by victims in the civil courts, where the burden of proof is "in all probability" and the courts find in favour of the victim. Is that innocent?"
Legally yes.wud u rather the criminal courts hav same standard as civil court? As in "probably guilty"
Better a hundred guilty walk free than 1 innocent hang |
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"Ok, so someone murders someone and we straight off spend hundreds of thousands of pounds, providing them with legal representation. They're convicted and we then spend £40,000 a year to keep them in Jail, for the next how long? They're fed better than most, kept warm, receive medical attention, provided with free recreation faciities etc etc etc YET the NHS won't pay for Cancer beating medication, as they can't justify the cost?? Morally there's something wrong there....
And if they're innocent??
If they're innocent, they should be able to prove it. Remember the burden of proof is beyond reasonable doubt, to a jury of your peers. For the greater good of all, is the saying that comes to mind...
Plenty of innocent people can't manage to "prove" their innocence in court.
Equally plenty of guilty people get good lawyers and can "prove" they are "not" guilty. The law sucks and not in a good way! "
No, an accused person doesn't need to prove they're not guilty. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"See, this is what annoys me. People get aquitted in the criminal courts, or have convictions overturned, having been found to be 'unsafe' and are decreed as being innocent. Yet a large number of these cases are then pursued by victims in the civil courts, where the burden of proof is "in all probability" and the courts find in favour of the victim. Is that innocent?
Legally yes.wud u rather the criminal courts hav same standard as civil court? As in "probably guilty"
Better a hundred guilty walk free than 1 innocent hang"
Agree to disagree on that one. A Country that is scared to enforce the law, to the greater good of all is faiing in it's duty. What about the victims of the hundred guilty, that you advocate letting walk free?? |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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"See, this is what annoys me. People get aquitted in the criminal courts, or have convictions overturned, having been found to be 'unsafe' and are decreed as being innocent. Yet a large number of these cases are then pursued by victims in the civil courts, where the burden of proof is "in all probability" and the courts find in favour of the victim. Is that innocent?
Legally yes.wud u rather the criminal courts hav same standard as civil court? As in "probably guilty"
Better a hundred guilty walk free than 1 innocent hang
Agree to disagree on that one. A Country that is scared to enforce the law, to the greater good of all is faiing in it's duty. What about the victims of the hundred guilty, that you advocate letting walk free??"
Wat about the innocent thats hanged?
Agree to disagree as u say |
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"See, this is what annoys me. People get aquitted in the criminal courts, or have convictions overturned, having been found to be 'unsafe' and are decreed as being innocent. Yet a large number of these cases are then pursued by victims in the civil courts, where the burden of proof is "in all probability" and the courts find in favour of the victim. Is that innocent?
Legally yes.wud u rather the criminal courts hav same standard as civil court? As in "probably guilty"
Better a hundred guilty walk free than 1 innocent hang
Agree to disagree on that one. A Country that is scared to enforce the law, to the greater good of all is faiing in it's duty. What about the victims of the hundred guilty, that you advocate letting walk free??"
The Spanish inquisition lads were great lads for enforcing the law.  Evil bastards though. |
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By *iktikiCouple
over a year ago
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"Just reading about the botched execution of the man in Oklahoma. Just wondering what the opinion is regarding the death penalty?
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Are we thinking of introducing it into fab for the Faker's ...lol
In this case an eye for an eye just does not add up ..
Lock them up for life and l mean for life ...after reading the tweets from this execution its seems as barbaric as the crime |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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"Ohhh its a tough one the last woman to be
Executed in Holloway was Ruth Ellis in the fiftys
I believe and even today still huge debate over it. "
Hope the debate was about her innocence or guilt. Not because she was a woman |
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"Ohhh its a tough one the last woman to be
Executed in Holloway was Ruth Ellis in the fiftys
I believe and even today still huge debate over it.
Hope the debate was about her innocence or guilt. Not because she was a woman"
im not sure of the whole story it was a crime of passion and was apparently mentally unbalanced .. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ok, so someone murders someone and we straight off spend hundreds of thousands of pounds, providing them with legal representation. They're convicted and we then spend £40,000 a year to keep them in Jail, for the next how long? They're fed better than most, kept warm, receive medical attention, provided with free recreation faciities etc etc etc YET the NHS won't pay for Cancer beating medication, as they can't justify the cost?? Morally there's something wrong there...."
It costs more to execute someone in the U.S. than it does to lock offenders away for life. |
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"Bull shit u cant compare ireland with america,i dont know of anx irish people wrongly executed."
There's plenty of them. They were a long time ago though so that's probably why you don't know of them. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ok, so someone murders someone and we straight off spend hundreds of thousands of pounds, providing them with legal representation. They're convicted and we then spend £40,000 a year to keep them in Jail, for the next how long? They're fed better than most, kept warm, receive medical attention, provided with free recreation faciities etc etc etc YET the NHS won't pay for Cancer beating medication, as they can't justify the cost?? Morally there's something wrong there....
It costs more to execute someone in the U.S. than it does to lock offenders away for life."
That's because the average time spent on death row, following trial and sentencing, is in the order of 15 - 20 years, during which time legal costs continue to escalate...simple as that. Smoke and mirrors, amoke and mirrors!!! |
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"So come on all you advocates, does it matter how you kill the accused?
Maybe an eye for an eye?"
Was it Michael Portillo who did the documentary a few years ago about methods of execution? I'm not sure if it was but his contention that the use of nitrogen gas would result in the victim dying in a state of euphoria. It seemed like the ideal way to kill someone but the pro death penalty lobby in the USA weren't having any of it. They preferred the idea of a bit of suffering! |
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By *.L.CMan
over a year ago
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Again ur not comparing like with like,in america and england too its secure custody which cost much less than the irish system which is safe aned secure custody.Too many do gooders in this country if u ask me,let the punishment fit the crime. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"An eye for an eye leaves everybody blind "
There was a system in Ireland one time where the criminal had to make compensation to the victims family for his crime eg if he/she killed a farmer they had to take the farmers place and work the farm. This sort of punishment is more beneficial than prison...... I suppose community service is today equivalent. |
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"Ok, so someone murders someone and we straight off spend hundreds of thousands of pounds, providing them with legal representation. They're convicted and we then spend £40,000 a year to keep them in Jail, for the next how long? They're fed better than most, kept warm, receive medical attention, provided with free recreation faciities etc etc etc YET the NHS won't pay for Cancer beating medication, as they can't justify the cost?? Morally there's something wrong there....
It costs more to execute someone in the U.S. than it does to lock offenders away for life.
That's because the average time spent on death row, following trial and sentencing, is in the order of 15 - 20 years, during which time legal costs continue to escalate...simple as that. Smoke and mirrors, amoke and mirrors!!!"
That doesn't stop it being a fact. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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in america there are 200000 people in prisons for murder so clearly the punishment doesnt scare people from murdering others. the swiss nation have the same right as americans to hold firearms but u dont see them killing every body who says a wrong word to them. i think the death penalty doesnt work so it should be done away with.
if any1 can come up with what to replace it with that would be good.
what sentance do you give a child killer? a person who rapes and kills a woman? or a person who guns down a rival gang member? |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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"in america there are 200000 people in prisons for murder so clearly the punishment doesnt scare people from murdering others. the swiss nation have the same right as americans to hold firearms but u dont see them killing every body who says a wrong word to them. i think the death penalty doesnt work so it should be done away with.
if any1 can come up with what to replace it with that would be good.
what sentance do you give a child killer? a person who rapes and kills a woman? or a person who guns down a rival gang member? "
Life in prison.for some life with no parole |
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By (user no longer on site)
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what sentance do you give a child killer? a person who rapes and kills a woman? or a person who guns down a rival gang member?
Life in prison.for some life with no parole"
Exile? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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so Hal would you consider the murder of a child the same as a gang member killing anything as they would both get the same sentance? im only asking as the child killer is clearlly the mpre evil of the 2 but u cant let the gang member do less time.
im just saying its hard to make a call on the yes or no of death pen as we just get more shock each year with differant types of murders. remember if u lock some1 up for life they will still be able to laugh and smile no matter how small but the person the murdered can not |
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"Ok, so someone murders someone and we straight off spend hundreds of thousands of pounds, providing them with legal representation. They're convicted and we then spend £40,000 a year to keep them in Jail, for the next how long? They're fed better than most, kept warm, receive medical attention, provided with free recreation faciities etc etc etc YET the NHS won't pay for Cancer beating medication, as they can't justify the cost?? Morally there's something wrong there....
It costs more to execute someone in the U.S. than it does to lock offenders away for life.
That's because the average time spent on death row, following trial and sentencing, is in the order of 15 - 20 years, during which time legal costs continue to escalate...simple as that. Smoke and mirrors, amoke and mirrors!!!
That doesn't stop it being a fact."
No but it puts it into context, the system, NOT the punishment, fails...predetermine the maximum stay of execution, to 1 year maximum. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ok, so someone murders someone and we straight off spend hundreds of thousands of pounds, providing them with legal representation. They're convicted and we then spend £40,000 a year to keep them in Jail, for the next how long? They're fed better than most, kept warm, receive medical attention, provided with free recreation faciities etc etc etc YET the NHS won't pay for Cancer beating medication, as they can't justify the cost?? Morally there's something wrong there....
It costs more to execute someone in the U.S. than it does to lock offenders away for life.
That's because the average time spent on death row, following trial and sentencing, is in the order of 15 - 20 years, during which time legal costs continue to escalate...simple as that. Smoke and mirrors, amoke and mirrors!!!
That doesn't stop it being a fact.
No but it puts it into context, the system, NOT the punishment, fails...predetermine the maximum stay of execution, to 1 year maximum. "
Ridiculous. |
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"Ok, so someone murders someone and we straight off spend hundreds of thousands of pounds, providing them with legal representation. They're convicted and we then spend £40,000 a year to keep them in Jail, for the next how long? They're fed better than most, kept warm, receive medical attention, provided with free recreation faciities etc etc etc YET the NHS won't pay for Cancer beating medication, as they can't justify the cost?? Morally there's something wrong there....
It costs more to execute someone in the U.S. than it does to lock offenders away for life.
That's because the average time spent on death row, following trial and sentencing, is in the order of 15 - 20 years, during which time legal costs continue to escalate...simple as that. Smoke and mirrors, amoke and mirrors!!!
That doesn't stop it being a fact.
No but it puts it into context, the system, NOT the punishment, fails...predetermine the maximum stay of execution, to 1 year maximum.
Ridiculous."
How? What can you prove in 15 years, that you can't prove in 1?? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ok, so someone murders someone and we straight off spend hundreds of thousands of pounds, providing them with legal representation. They're convicted and we then spend £40,000 a year to keep them in Jail, for the next how long? They're fed better than most, kept warm, receive medical attention, provided with free recreation faciities etc etc etc YET the NHS won't pay for Cancer beating medication, as they can't justify the cost?? Morally there's something wrong there....
It costs more to execute someone in the U.S. than it does to lock offenders away for life.
That's because the average time spent on death row, following trial and sentencing, is in the order of 15 - 20 years, during which time legal costs continue to escalate...simple as that. Smoke and mirrors, amoke and mirrors!!!
That doesn't stop it being a fact.
No but it puts it into context, the system, NOT the punishment, fails...predetermine the maximum stay of execution, to 1 year maximum.
Ridiculous.
How? What can you prove in 15 years, that you can't prove in 1??"
Someone's innocence. |
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"No human should have the right to take another's life.
It is assumed that 3-5% of death row inmates in America are innocent or wrongly convicted.
I would imagine its alot higher.wat with the fucked up racists american justice system
You may also be surprised to hear that there are more white people on the U.S. death row than black people & that in the last 40 years nearly twice as many white people have been executed."
True but blacks make up 42% of death row inmates but only 12% of the general population. But there are slightly more white people on death row in the US but whites are underrepresented as a percentage of the general US population.
The same is true for those actually executed blacks are over represented given that they make up around 12% of the population.
Also in interracial murders only 20 white people have been executed for murdering a black person but 270 blacks have been executed for murdering white people. |
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"most arab countries still have stoneing as there death penalty i think for murder and other such crimes."
Some also make women wear burkhas, don't let them drive, go on holidays, work etc
Some also execute people for homosexuality or possession of cannabis so hardly an example to follow. |
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"most arab countries still have stoneing as there death penalty i think for murder and other such crimes.
Some also make women wear burkhas, don't let them drive, go on holidays, work etc
Some also execute people for homosexuality or possession of cannabis so hardly an example to follow."
Jaysus, I can see the sense of not letting them drive alright!  |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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"most arab countries still have stoneing as there death penalty i think for murder and other such crimes.
Some also make women wear burkhas, don't let them drive, go on holidays, work etc
Some also execute people for homosexuality or possession of cannabis so hardly an example to follow.
Jaysus, I can see the sense of not letting them drive alright! "
Not even to the shops |
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"most arab countries still have stoneing as there death penalty i think for murder and other such crimes.
Some also make women wear burkhas, don't let them drive, go on holidays, work etc
Some also execute people for homosexuality or possession of cannabis so hardly an example to follow.
Jaysus, I can see the sense of not letting them drive alright!
Not even to the shops"
It's not widely known but online shopping was designed specifically to resolve the problem of women "drivers" |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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"most arab countries still have stoneing as there death penalty i think for murder and other such crimes.
Some also make women wear burkhas, don't let them drive, go on holidays, work etc
Some also execute people for homosexuality or possession of cannabis so hardly an example to follow.
Jaysus, I can see the sense of not letting them drive alright!
Not even to the shops
It's not widely known but online shopping was designed specifically to resolve the problem of women "drivers" "
Look wat happens wen they go online
They do b riding lads like us |
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"most arab countries still have stoneing as there death penalty i think for murder and other such crimes.
Some also make women wear burkhas, don't let them drive, go on holidays, work etc
Some also execute people for homosexuality or possession of cannabis so hardly an example to follow.
Jaysus, I can see the sense of not letting them drive alright!
Not even to the shops
It's not widely known but online shopping was designed specifically to resolve the problem of women "drivers"
Look wat happens wen they go online
They do b riding lads like us "
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"most arab countries still have stoneing as there death penalty i think for murder and other such crimes.
Some also make women wear burkhas, don't let them drive, go on holidays, work etc
Some also execute people for homosexuality or possession of cannabis so hardly an example to follow.
Jaysus, I can see the sense of not letting them drive alright!
Not even to the shops
It's not widely known but online shopping was designed specifically to resolve the problem of women "drivers"
Look wat happens wen they go online
They do b riding lads like us
Sometimes... Not often enough though! "
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"most arab countries still have stoneing as there death penalty i think for murder and other such crimes.
Some also make women wear burkhas, don't let them drive, go on holidays, work etc
Some also execute people for homosexuality or possession of cannabis so hardly an example to follow.
Jaysus, I can see the sense of not letting them drive alright!
Not even to the shops
It's not widely known but online shopping was designed specifically to resolve the problem of women "drivers"
Look wat happens wen they go online
They do b riding lads like us
Sometimes... Not often enough though!
I really shouldn't laugh cos it just encourages you but what the hack...... PMSL "
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"most arab countries still have stoneing as there death penalty i think for murder and other such crimes.
Some also make women wear burkhas, don't let them drive, go on holidays, work etc
Some also execute people for homosexuality or possession of cannabis so hardly an example to follow.
Jaysus, I can see the sense of not letting them drive alright!
Not even to the shops
It's not widely known but online shopping was designed specifically to resolve the problem of women "drivers"
Look wat happens wen they go online
They do b riding lads like us
Sometimes... Not often enough though!
I really shouldn't laugh cos it just encourages you but what the hack...... PMSL
That's it... Just cough it up Cheeky! "
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"most arab countries still have stoneing as there death penalty i think for murder and other such crimes."
Most Arab countries do not have stoning as the death penalty.
Stoning is only included in the laws of 4 countries of the Middle East (Arab )
Its also included in the laws of Pakistan, sudan and some areas of Nigeria
It's not used for murder, it's used for homosexuality and aldultery ( which includes being raped) |
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"most arab countries still have stoneing as there death penalty i think for murder and other such crimes.
Executed 6 ppl in iran I think cpl days ago for robbery.26 this year"
683 men sentenced to death on Monday in Egypt for the death of one man |
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"And just to throw a spanner in the mix for those advocates of the death penalty.
The person on death row is YOUR son or YOUR daughter......."
If they took a life, how could I say that I don't deserve the grief of their victim's parents, who experience it with no judicial process and only due to the actions of a murderer?? |
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A society that is willing to take the life of a citizen no matter how heinous the crime can hardly call its self civilised.
The criminals on death row in the U.S.A. don't come from mars.Most come from poor under privileged backgrounds If they could afford proper legal representation the majority would avoid death row.
Also the average stay on death row is ten years with the appeal system and cost more than it would to keep the prisoner locked up for the rest of his natural life.
As a civilised society should be more concerned with the environments that created these criminals and correct the problems there. |
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"A society that is willing to take the life of a citizen no matter how heinous the crime can hardly call its self civilised.
The criminals on death row in the U.S.A. don't come from mars.Most come from poor under privileged backgrounds If they could afford proper legal representation the majority would avoid death row.
Also the average stay on death row is ten years with the appeal system and cost more than it would to keep the prisoner locked up for the rest of his natural life.
As a civilised society should be more concerned with the environments that created these criminals and correct the problems there. "
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"A society that is willing to take the life of a citizen no matter how heinous the crime can hardly call its self civilised.
The criminals on death row in the U.S.A. don't come from mars.Most come from poor under privileged backgrounds If they could afford proper legal representation the majority would avoid death row.
Also the average stay on death row is ten years with the appeal system and cost more than it would to keep the prisoner locked up for the rest of his natural life.
As a civilised society should be more concerned with the environments that created these criminals and correct the problems there. "
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"Killing someone as punishment because they have killed someone seems ridiculous to me.
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over a year ago
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"Killing someone as punishment because they have killed someone seems ridiculous to me.
Sorry im a firm believer in a eye for a eye....also if anyone ever hurt my loved one id gladly put the needle in myself... "
Would u feel the same any if it was ur loved one who was being executed?
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"A society that is willing to take the life of a citizen no matter how heinous the crime can hardly call its self civilised.
The criminals on death row in the U.S.A. don't come from mars.Most come from poor under privileged backgrounds If they could afford proper legal representation the majority would avoid death row.
Also the average stay on death row is ten years with the appeal system and cost more than it would to keep the prisoner locked up for the rest of his natural life.
As a civilised society should be more concerned with the environments that created these criminals and correct the problems there.
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"Killing someone as punishment because they have killed someone seems ridiculous to me.
Sorry im a firm believer in a eye for a eye....also if anyone ever hurt my loved one id gladly put the needle in myself...
Would u feel the same any if it was ur loved one who was being executed?
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Ouch....that's a tough one!
I'd feel heartbroken....
Also there are loads of people on death row who commited murders in there teens...people can change...also victim of circumstance is often a large role to play ...
But there is lots of reasons why people commit heinous crimes,sociopaths and pedophiles people who get pleasure from torture and killing id fry them!!
Loved one or not....
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My view on this is the punishment should fit the crime, yes there is wrongly accused people you give the the resources and five years to prove their innocence. But people caught red handed she be tried and punished in days |
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over a year ago
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Dont think thats a fair question to ask as the original question was looking for peoples views in general.Obviously if u have a personal involvement in something its going to influence your views |
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"My view on this is the punishment should fit the crime, yes there is wrongly accused people you give the the resources and five years to prove their innocence. But people caught red handed she be tried and punished in days"
Agreed.... |
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"Killing someone as punishment because they have killed someone seems ridiculous to me.
Sorry im a firm believer in a eye for a eye....also if anyone ever hurt my loved one id gladly put the needle in myself...
Would u feel the same any if it was ur loved one who was being executed?
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If it was a loved one of mine committed a crime I would expect them to be punished no matter how horrible it makes you feel the worst thing I would feel would be disappointment in myself and them, me for not bringing them up with the values I hold dear and them for not having the sense to not do it. |
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"Killing someone as punishment because they have killed someone seems ridiculous to me.
Sorry im a firm believer in a eye for a eye....also if anyone ever hurt my loved one id gladly put the needle in myself...
Would u feel the same any if it was ur loved one who was being executed?
If it was a loved one of mine committed a crime I would expect them to be punished no matter how horrible it makes you feel the worst thing I would feel would be disappointment in myself and them, me for not bringing them up with the values I hold dear and them for not having the sense to not do it."
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Mixed emotions to this but at the end of the day he probably still suffered less that his victim who he buried alive. A certain karma to this one.
Some work is being done on vegetating rather than executing... That is effectively wiping the brain. Stuff of science fiction and something I doubt we will see used anytime soon |
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"My view on this is the punishment should fit the crime, yes there is wrongly accused people you give the the resources and five years to prove their innocence. But people caught red handed she be tried and punished in days"
So you'd have executed the Guildford four, the Birmingham six, and the ten members of the Maguire family, all of whom were innocent?? |
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"in america there are 200000 people in prisons for murder so clearly the punishment doesnt scare people from murdering others. the swiss nation have the same right as americans to hold firearms but u dont see them killing every body who says a wrong word to them. i think the death penalty doesnt work so it should be done away with.
if any1 can come up with what to replace it with that would be good.
what sentance do you give a child killer? a person who rapes and kills a woman? or a person who guns down a rival gang member?
Life in prison.for some life with no parole"
there should be some labour involved, let them give something back to society at least.
Btw, it's harder to get a gun in Switzerland than it is in the US. Although men who are still active in the military keep their weapons at home. Up until a few years ago, they also kept some ammunition at home as well. There were some bad incidents however, considering that around 600'000 households have a weapon at home, it's very very rare.
I guess it has to do with how the society works and values are tought. You won't find that much desperate poverty and lack of education in Switzerland as in the US. Put a gun into a hungry, uneducuated and/or abused person's hands and wait for the terror to happen.
I'm not justifying people being killed, but just following on what elusive male said |
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"My view on this is the punishment should fit the crime, yes there is wrongly accused people you give the the resources and five years to prove their innocence. But people caught red handed she be tried and punished in days
So you'd have executed the Guildford four, the Birmingham six, and the ten members of the Maguire family, all of whom were innocent?? "
As I said give them the resources to prove their innocents and five years. |
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"My view on this is the punishment should fit the crime, yes there is wrongly accused people you give the the resources and five years to prove their innocence. But people caught red handed she be tried and punished in days
So you'd have executed the Guildford four, the Birmingham six, and the ten members of the Maguire family, all of whom were innocent?? "
Look seriously sociopaths...and pedophiles who murder the innocent give them the needle.... |
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"My view on this is the punishment should fit the crime, yes there is wrongly accused people you give the the resources and five years to prove their innocence. But people caught red handed she be tried and punished in days
So you'd have executed the Guildford four, the Birmingham six, and the ten members of the Maguire family, all of whom were innocent??
As I said give them the resources to prove their innocents and five years."
Right, so you'd have executed the lot of them then. The entire world could see they were innocent, apart from the British judiciary. It took some of them 16 years to have their names cleared. |
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"My view on this is the punishment should fit the crime, yes there is wrongly accused people you give the the resources and five years to prove their innocence. But people caught red handed she be tried and punished in days
So you'd have executed the Guildford four, the Birmingham six, and the ten members of the Maguire family, all of whom were innocent??
As I said give them the resources to prove their innocents and five years.
Right, so you'd have executed the lot of them then. The entire world could see they were innocent, apart from the British judiciary. It took some of them 16 years to have their names cleared. "
Factually the convictions were deemed 'unsafe' and 'unsatisfactory'. They were never awarded compensation, as would have been the case if they had been declared innocent. Food for thought..... |
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"My view on this is the punishment should fit the crime, yes there is wrongly accused people you give the the resources and five years to prove their innocence. But people caught red handed she be tried and punished in days
So you'd have executed the Guildford four, the Birmingham six, and the ten members of the Maguire family, all of whom were innocent??
As I said give them the resources to prove their innocents and five years.
Right, so you'd have executed the lot of them then. The entire world could see they were innocent, apart from the British judiciary. It took some of them 16 years to have their names cleared. "
Back off I didn't say anything about them. We are talking about murders, rapists ect people who deserve it. If you have the right lawyer you can literally get away with murder now a days. That is why I said give them the resources, the above mentioned did not have the proper resources and nowadays tests.
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Right, so you'd have executed the lot of them then. The entire world could see they were innocent, apart from the British judiciary. It took some of them 16 years to have their names cleared.
Back off I didn't say anything about them. We are talking about murders, rapists ect people who deserve it. If you have the right lawyer you can literally get away with murder now a days. That is why I said give them the resources, the above mentioned did not have the proper resources and nowadays tests.
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They were all convicted of murder and were all 100% innocent. |
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"My view on this is the punishment should fit the crime, yes there is wrongly accused people you give the the resources and five years to prove their innocence. But people caught red handed she be tried and punished in days
So you'd have executed the Guildford four, the Birmingham six, and the ten members of the Maguire family, all of whom were innocent??
As I said give them the resources to prove their innocents and five years.
Right, so you'd have executed the lot of them then. The entire world could see they were innocent, apart from the British judiciary. It took some of them 16 years to have their names cleared.
Factually the convictions were deemed 'unsafe' and 'unsatisfactory'. They were never awarded compensation, as would have been the case if they had been declared innocent. Food for thought....."
Lol, you're rewriting history. They got compensation alright. |
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"My view on this is the punishment should fit the crime, yes there is wrongly accused people you give the the resources and five years to prove their innocence. But people caught red handed she be tried and punished in days
So you'd have executed the Guildford four, the Birmingham six, and the ten members of the Maguire family, all of whom were innocent??
As I said give them the resources to prove their innocents and five years.
Right, so you'd have executed the lot of them then. The entire world could see they were innocent, apart from the British judiciary. It took some of them 16 years to have their names cleared.
Factually the convictions were deemed 'unsafe' and 'unsatisfactory'. They were never awarded compensation, as would have been the case if they had been declared innocent. Food for thought.....
Lol, you're rewriting history. They got compensation alright. "
After many years they received moderate ex gratia payments, they did not receive 'compensation' at the level afforded to someone proven innocent |
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"My view on this is the punishment should fit the crime, yes there is wrongly accused people you give the the resources and five years to prove their innocence. But people caught red handed she be tried and punished in days
So you'd have executed the Guildford four, the Birmingham six, and the ten members of the Maguire family, all of whom were innocent??
As I said give them the resources to prove their innocents and five years.
Right, so you'd have executed the lot of them then. The entire world could see they were innocent, apart from the British judiciary. It took some of them 16 years to have their names cleared.
Factually the convictions were deemed 'unsafe' and 'unsatisfactory'. They were never awarded compensation, as would have been the case if they had been declared innocent. Food for thought.....
Lol, you're rewriting history. They got compensation alright.
After many years they received moderate ex gratia payments, they did not receive 'compensation' at the level afforded to someone proven innocent"
Er.. You're wrong you know. |
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I think this has descended into a discussion on the Guilford 4 ? the fact of the matter in that case is if the crown prosecution service had any Idea that they where guilty they would not have let them out of prison its that simple |
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"Forget if they got compensation or not, but they did, do u want ppl convicted on an "unsafe"or "unsatisfactory" conviction?
Reading some of the posts, probably"
Hmm Noticed how all those in favor of an eye for an eye haven't commented on how it's ok to sentence to death so many for the death if one man.
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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Just read other guy in Oklahoma awaiting execution raped an d killed an11 month old baby.kiddie crimes worst but babies.fuck me.horrific
Doesnt change my views.anyway I think solitary confinement in a supermax prison in states is worse than death.little or no human contact.just bare walls. |
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"My view on this is the punishment should fit the crime, yes there is wrongly accused people you give the the resources and five years to prove their innocence. But people caught red handed she be tried and punished in days
So you'd have executed the Guildford four, the Birmingham six, and the ten members of the Maguire family, all of whom were innocent??
As I said give them the resources to prove their innocents and five years.
Right, so you'd have executed the lot of them then. The entire world could see they were innocent, apart from the British judiciary. It took some of them 16 years to have their names cleared.
Factually the convictions were deemed 'unsafe' and 'unsatisfactory'. They were never awarded compensation, as would have been the case if they had been declared innocent. Food for thought.....
Lol, you're rewriting history. They got compensation alright.
After many years they received moderate ex gratia payments, they did not receive 'compensation' at the level afforded to someone proven innocent"
"They gave me £546,000 - for taking me, torturing me and framing me; taking my father, torturing him and having him die in prison; then leaving me sinking in the quicksand of my own nightmares."
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"How about no death sentence, but also no segregation. The ones who deserve to die probably will."
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The simple truth is... the courts..the laws the prison system IS A JOKE
There is No Fear anymore..no Respect.
There should be!
If someone murders another person.. that's premeditated..or as a result of a crime..robbing a bank or breaking into a home.. they have Taken Another Persons Life!
The victim..will never eat sleep or breath again.
Why are the laws protecting the guilty...wheres the protection for the victim.
If someone I loved was murdered..id want to see the murderer drag through the streets in fear... in public for everyone to see...id want that person hung up to die... all the begging for mercy..pissing themselves... how much mercy has that person shown to the victim!!
Our system is falling apart... career criminals.. murderers..rapists are laughing at jail. If u get caught you get look after..u get free food free electricity..free study..free medical.. there's even plans for free internet!!!
We have to pay for everything.. where's the justice??
We've all gotten too nicey nicey.. theres no punishment anymore... worrying about human rights of the criminal... a criminal..someone who breaks the law should forfeit their human rights and should b punished!
Death penalty.. Yes..only on being 100% proven.. id caught on camera.. or found with the body under the bed.
Harder prisons...Yes..chain gangs..splitting rocks
Tougher sentencing... Yes
Sorry a bit of a rant...just sick of people being too nice
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"The simple truth is... the courts..the laws the prison system IS A JOKE
There is No Fear anymore..no Respect.
There should be!
If someone murders another person.. that's premeditated..or as a result of a crime..robbing a bank or breaking into a home.. they have Taken Another Persons Life!
The victim..will never eat sleep or breath again.
Why are the laws protecting the guilty...wheres the protection for the victim.
If someone I loved was murdered..id want to see the murderer drag through the streets in fear... in public for everyone to see...id want that person hung up to die... all the begging for mercy..pissing themselves... how much mercy has that person shown to the victim!!
Our system is falling apart... career criminals.. murderers..rapists are laughing at jail. If u get caught you get look after..u get free food free electricity..free study..free medical.. there's even plans for free internet!!!
We have to pay for everything.. where's the justice??
We've all gotten too nicey nicey.. theres no punishment anymore... worrying about human rights of the criminal... a criminal..someone who breaks the law should forfeit their human rights and should b punished!
Death penalty.. Yes..only on being 100% proven.. id caught on camera.. or found with the body under the bed.
Harder prisons...Yes..chain gangs..splitting rocks
Tougher sentencing... Yes
Sorry a bit of a rant...just sick of people being too nice
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"The simple truth is... the courts..the laws the prison system IS A JOKE
There is No Fear anymore..no Respect.
There should be!
If someone murders another person.. that's premeditated..or as a result of a crime..robbing a bank or breaking into a home.. they have Taken Another Persons Life!
The victim..will never eat sleep or breath again.
Why are the laws protecting the guilty...wheres the protection for the victim.
If someone I loved was murdered..id want to see the murderer drag through the streets in fear... in public for everyone to see...id want that person hung up to die... all the begging for mercy..pissing themselves... how much mercy has that person shown to the victim!!
Our system is falling apart... career criminals.. murderers..rapists are laughing at jail. If u get caught you get look after..u get free food free electricity..free study..free medical.. there's even plans for free internet!!!
We have to pay for everything.. where's the justice??
We've all gotten too nicey nicey.. theres no punishment anymore... worrying about human rights of the criminal... a criminal..someone who breaks the law should forfeit their human rights and should b punished!
Death penalty.. Yes..only on being 100% proven.. id caught on camera.. or found with the body under the bed.
Harder prisons...Yes..chain gangs..splitting rocks
Tougher sentencing... Yes
Sorry a bit of a rant...just sick of people being too nice
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Its worked real well for america hasnt it.
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"The simple truth is... the courts..the laws the prison system IS A JOKE
There is No Fear anymore..no Respect.
There should be!
If someone murders another person.. that's premeditated..or as a result of a crime..robbing a bank or breaking into a home.. they have Taken Another Persons Life!
The victim..will never eat sleep or breath again.
Why are the laws protecting the guilty...wheres the protection for the victim.
If someone I loved was murdered..id want to see the murderer drag through the streets in fear... in public for everyone to see...id want that person hung up to die... all the begging for mercy..pissing themselves... how much mercy has that person shown to the victim!!
Our system is falling apart... career criminals.. murderers..rapists are laughing at jail. If u get caught you get look after..u get free food free electricity..free study..free medical.. there's even plans for free internet!!!
We have to pay for everything.. where's the justice??
We've all gotten too nicey nicey.. theres no punishment anymore... worrying about human rights of the criminal... a criminal..someone who breaks the law should forfeit their human rights and should b punished!
Death penalty.. Yes..only on being 100% proven.. id caught on camera.. or found with the body under the bed.
Harder prisons...Yes..chain gangs..splitting rocks
Tougher sentencing... Yes
Sorry a bit of a rant...just sick of people being too nice
Its worked real well for america hasnt it.
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Americans are idiots... if an American is reading this he'll agree
No...I don't mean just bring it in... I mean the conditions for Death penalty would have to be stricter... only for the complete nut jobs out there.
And anyone who's done a violent crime..rape..child abuse.. muggings.. should be tagged..FOR LIFE...
People are let out of prison all the time..and go straight back to what they did before... WHY?? Because there is no punishment! Prison is a holiday camp.
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"The simple truth is... the courts..the laws the prison system IS A JOKE
There is No Fear anymore..no Respect.
There should be!
If someone murders another person.. that's premeditated..or as a result of a crime..robbing a bank or breaking into a home.. they have Taken Another Persons Life!
The victim..will never eat sleep or breath again.
Why are the laws protecting the guilty...wheres the protection for the victim.
If someone I loved was murdered..id want to see the murderer drag through the streets in fear... in public for everyone to see...id want that person hung up to die... all the begging for mercy..pissing themselves... how much mercy has that person shown to the victim!!
Our system is falling apart... career criminals.. murderers..rapists are laughing at jail. If u get caught you get look after..u get free food free electricity..free study..free medical.. there's even plans for free internet!!!
We have to pay for everything.. where's the justice??
That
We've all gotten too nicey nicey.. theres no punishment anymore... worrying about human rights of the criminal... a criminal..someone who breaks the law should forfeit their human rights and should b punished!
Death penalty.. Yes..only on being 100% proven.. id caught on camera.. or found with the body under the bed.
Harder prisons...Yes..chain gangs..splitting rocks
Tougher sentencing... Yes
Sorry a bit of a rant...just sick of people being too nice
Its worked real well for america hasnt it.
Americans are idiots... if an American is reading this he'll agree
No...I don't mean just bring it in... I mean the conditions for Death penalty would have to be stricter... only for the complete nut jobs out there.
And anyone who's done a violent crime..rape..child abuse.. muggings.. should be tagged..FOR LIFE...
People are let out of prison all the time..and go straight back to what they did before... WHY?? Because there is no punishment! Prison is a holiday camp.
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There is No Fear anymore..no Respect.
There should be!
If someone murders another person.. that's premeditated..or as a result of a crime..robbing a bank or breaking into a home.. they have Taken Another Persons Life!
The victim..will never eat sleep or breath again.
Why are the laws protecting the guilty...wheres the protection for the victim.
If someone I loved was murdered..id want to see the murderer drag through the streets in fear... in public for everyone to see...id want that person hung up to die... all the begging for mercy..pissing themselves... how much mercy has that person shown to the victim!!
Our system is falling apart... career criminals.. murderers..rapists are laughing at jail. If u get caught you get look after..u get free food free electricity..free study..free medical.. there's even plans for free internet!!!
We have to pay for everything.. where's the justice??
That
We've all gotten too nicey nicey.. theres no punishment anymore... worrying about human rights of the criminal... a criminal..someone who breaks the law should forfeit their human rights and should b punished!
Death penalty.. Yes..only on being 100% proven.. id caught on camera.. or found with the body under the bed.
Harder prisons...Yes..chain gangs..splitting rocks
Tougher sentencing... Yes
Sorry a bit of a rant...just sick of people being too nice
Its worked real well for america hasnt it.
Americans are idiots... if an American is reading this he'll agree
No...I don't mean just bring it in... I mean the conditions for Death penalty would have to be stricter... only for the complete nut jobs out there.
And anyone who's done a violent crime..rape..child abuse.. muggings.. should be tagged..FOR LIFE...
People are let out of prison all the time..and go straight back to what they did before... WHY?? Because there is no punishment! Prison is a holiday camp.
If prison is such jolly fun, why do people constantly try to break out? "
Lol good point
Id say it something to do... like a hobby.
If they weren't fed sooo well they wouldn't have the energy to try n break out
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"Just reading about the botched execution of the man in Oklahoma. Just wondering what the opinion is regarding the death penalty?
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i think serial killers and paedophiles shud all get the death penalty!! |
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"Just reading about the botched execution of the man in Oklahoma. Just wondering what the opinion is regarding the death penalty?
i think serial killers and paedophiles shud all get the death penalty!!"
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