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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"get in touch with a face picture!" Should we guys send our Characteristics of each unknown ? With face pic ..? But of course they themselves have none...
Ladies be fair .. These are dumb demands.!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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How do you know they have none?
My face pic is in private pics. Noone can see it unless I send it. Maybe they're just the same.
You're jumping to a lot of assumptions there.
Also calling how a woman chooses to select a man for potentially meeting a "dumb demand" ? Smart move there  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"u were complainin yesterday about girls not replying or openin ur message.u cant hav it both ways jay.if u dont do as they ask they wont reply.I always send face pic before askin for 1."
Did you read what I wrote? Also yesterday? I also send a face pic of me when I write to a woman .. that's the game.
Only when women demand that it is stupid .. especially when she herself has none pics !! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"How do you know they have none?
My face pic is in private pics. Noone can see it unless I send it. Maybe they're just the same.
You're jumping to a lot of assumptions there.
Also calling how a woman chooses to select a man for potentially meeting a "dumb demand" ? Smart move there "
I have expressed myself perhaps too simple. I mean women profiles who have photo , also not private..sorry  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"How do you know they have none?
My face pic is in private pics. Noone can see it unless I send it. Maybe they're just the same.
You're jumping to a lot of assumptions there.
Also calling how a woman chooses to select a man for potentially meeting a "dumb demand" ? Smart move there
I have expressed myself perhaps too simple. I mean women profiles who have photo , also not private..sorry "
damn .. who have NO photo, also not private |
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""get in touch with a face picture!" Should we guys send our Characteristics of each unknown ? With face pic ..? But of course they themselves have none...
Ladies be fair .. These are dumb demands.! "
I presume you mean they say on profile no face pic they won't get in touch. Yet if guy put same up would get no response. I agree tbh. Why would I send face pic to someone I don't know. Laws of supply and demand however dictate I suppose. Also I normally find these same women value discretion yet won't let you mail til you comfortable to send pics.
To be fair you have made a good point. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I only send a face pic when i talk to her on the phone first...only today i had a "single girl" mailing me and also had two vertifications....it turned out to be a gay man again /"
had two vertifications....it turned out to be a gay man again  ...
Woow that shows what the verification is worth  |
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"Sorry but I like to see a face pix straight off no point in messaging for ages then at the end u get the pix and bang no attraction simple  "
Would u send face pic on first mail to anyone. Just curious. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I never mail guys but sorry I have enou!gh friends I don't do ping pong mails if I like what I see then meet what the feck is the point if theres no attraction im sorry but then again most and I say most of the guys will fuck anything with a pulse take it what ever way u want to but I think the ladies are different and that is fact |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Sorry but I like to see a face pix straight off no point in messaging for ages then at the end u get the pix and bang no attraction simple "
Exactly this or at least in the first few messages, but would also return the favour |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Sorry but I like to see a face pix straight off no point in messaging for ages then at the end u get the pix and bang no attraction simple "
I would like to see a face pic as well.. but i find it silly to ask for one, but self have none of pics in the profile also no private |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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"I never mail guys but sorry I have enou!gh friends I don't do ping pong mails if I like what I see then meet what the feck is the point if theres no attraction im sorry but then again most and I say most of the guys will fuck anything with a pulse take it what ever way u want to but I think the ladies are different and that is fact "
Alot of generalizing there busty.and that is a fact |
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"I never mail guys but sorry I have enou!gh friends I don't do ping pong mails if I like what I see then meet what the feck is the point if theres no attraction im sorry but then again most and I say most of the guys will fuck anything with a pulse take it what ever way u want to but I think the ladies are different and that is fact "
I think u are generalizing there. But maybe we
should leave at that discretion being better part of valour and all that. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Sorry but I like to see a face pix straight off no point in messaging for ages then at the end u get the pix and bang no attraction simple
Exactly this or at least in the first few messages, but would also return the favour "
Yes that should be the way, that you can offer some as well ... |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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"Sorry but I like to see a face pix straight off no point in messaging for ages then at the end u get the pix and bang no attraction simple
I would like to see a face pic as well.. but i find it silly to ask for one, but self have none of pics in the profile also no private"
Ur getting private pics mixed up with friend only pics jay.u cant tell if a person has pics in private.it doesnt show on their profile |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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sorry guys fact is 90 per of men are married so yes they do not want to show face fear of been caught im sorry if ppl feel that way don't come on here simple ! |
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I sent my face pic to many women when they asked and mentioned it fair that they send theirs in return too. Only a very very few honoured what they promised, but most of the women didn't bother responding at all...
Is this fair ?
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"jay there is another part of private in the gallery that she can have her pix it doesn't show up on her profile"
improbable on the first view... if she otherwise not have any pic's..or ? |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
kildare |
"sorry guys fact is 90 per of men are married so yes they do not want to show face fear of been caught im sorry if ppl feel that way don't come on here simple !"
Ill say no more about your "facts" |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I sent my face pic to many women when they asked and mentioned it fair that they send theirs in return too. Only a very very few honoured what they promised, but most of the women didn't bother responding at all...
Is this fair ?
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I would just say they are not interested in you and hence the no reply |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"sorry guys fact is 90 per of men are married so yes they do not want to show face fear of been caught im sorry if ppl feel that way don't come on here simple !"
could be with women the same thing .. maybe married..maybe just seeking attention .. maybe maybe .. |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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"jay there is another part of private in the gallery that she can have her pix it doesn't show up on her profile
improbable on the first view... if she otherwise not have any pic's..or ? "
Yes she might not hav any pics and no friend only pics but she cud hav many in private.u cant know from her profile |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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There is no way cud could kno this as fact.if u said u think thats fair enough but fact.no way u can possiblykno this.im swingin many more years than that and I cudnt possibly kno how many are married |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I sent my face pic to many women when they asked and mentioned it fair that they send theirs in return too. Only a very very few honoured what they promised, but most of the women didn't bother responding at all...
Is this fair ?
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well thats just plain stupid. why should a woman send you one back just because you sent one.... heres a handy hint dont send on expecting one in return  |
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"Maybe im different but never ask for a photo unless we have reached the stage of arranging a coffee meet. Always send one back. Hate being put in that box as a typical woman on here..... "
I think that's pretty normal for most. Only a few look for pic with first mail. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I sent my face pic to many women when they asked and mentioned it fair that they send theirs in return too. Only a very very few honoured what they promised, but most of the women didn't bother responding at all...
Is this fair ?
well thats just plain stupid. why should a woman send you one back just because you sent one.... heres a handy hint dont send on expecting one in return "
Thanks for the example ..  |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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"theres v few single guys on here not all married but yes attached hal im a women I do chat to guys on here sure maybe u do too !"
Im not even sure of the marital status of ppl iv met.never mind that im after spillin my voddie.im not blaming u directly but u had a part to play in the whole sorry episode.u owe me a drink |
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"I sent my face pic to many women when they asked and mentioned it fair that they send theirs in return too. Only a very very few honoured what they promised, but most of the women didn't bother responding at all...
Is this fair ?
well thats just plain stupid. why should a woman send you one back just because you sent one.... heres a handy hint dont send on expecting one in return
Thanks for the example .. "
Just don't send one. Chat to the majority here who build up to exchanging pics. This way u know it's a woman and not a 45 year old scaffolder from Athlone. Nothing against scaffolders btw. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I sent my face pic to many women when they asked and mentioned it fair that they send theirs in return too. Only a very very few honoured what they promised, but most of the women didn't bother responding at all...
Is this fair ?
well thats just plain stupid. why should a woman send you one back just because you sent one.... heres a handy hint dont send on expecting one in return
Thanks for the example .. "
i wasnt speaking to you..!!! |
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"I sent my face pic to many women when they asked and mentioned it fair that they send theirs in return too. Only a very very few honoured what they promised, but most of the women didn't bother responding at all...
Is this fair ?
well thats just plain stupid. why should a woman send you one back just because you sent one.... heres a handy hint dont send on expecting one in return
Thanks for the example ..
i wasnt speaking to you..!!!"
Nice Ass curvy |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I sent my face pic to many women when they asked and mentioned it fair that they send theirs in return too. Only a very very few honoured what they promised, but most of the women didn't bother responding at all...
Is this fair ?
well thats just plain stupid. why should a woman send you one back just because you sent one.... heres a handy hint dont send on expecting one in return
Thanks for the example ..
i wasnt speaking to you..!!!
Nice Ass curvy"
back at ya  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I sent my face pic to many women when they asked and mentioned it fair that they send theirs in return too. Only a very very few honoured what they promised, but most of the women didn't bother responding at all...
Is this fair ?
well thats just plain stupid. why should a woman send you one back just because you sent one.... heres a handy hint dont send on expecting one in return
Thanks for the example ..
i wasnt speaking to you..!!!"
then rule out the people to whom you explicitly do not speak. another proof of kindness |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I sent my face pic to many women when they asked and mentioned it fair that they send theirs in return too. Only a very very few honoured what they promised, but most of the women didn't bother responding at all...
Is this fair ?
well thats just plain stupid. why should a woman send you one back just because you sent one.... heres a handy hint dont send on expecting one in return
Thanks for the example ..
i wasnt speaking to you..!!!
then rule out the people to whom you explicitly do not speak. another proof of kindness "
i quoted and commented on the post of the person with whom i was refaring to....twas not you..!!! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I sent my face pic to many women when they asked and mentioned it fair that they send theirs in return too. Only a very very few honoured what they promised, but most of the women didn't bother responding at all...
Is this fair ?
well thats just plain stupid. why should a woman send you one back just because you sent one.... heres a handy hint dont send on expecting one in return
Thanks for the example ..
i wasnt speaking to you..!!!
then rule out the people to whom you explicitly do not speak. another proof of kindness
i quoted and commented on the post of the person with whom i was refaring to....twas not you..!!!"
It was not clear for me .. sorry |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I sent my face pic to many women when they asked and mentioned it fair that they send theirs in return too. Only a very very few honoured what they promised, but most of the women didn't bother responding at all...
Is this fair ?
well thats just plain stupid. why should a woman send you one back just because you sent one.... heres a handy hint dont send on expecting one in return
Thanks for the example ..
i wasnt speaking to you..!!!
then rule out the people to whom you explicitly do not speak. another proof of kindness
i quoted and commented on the post of the person with whom i was refaring to....twas not you..!!!
It was not clear for me .. sorry "
apology accepted |
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"I sent my face pic to many women when they asked and mentioned it fair that they send theirs in return too. Only a very very few honoured what they promised, but most of the women didn't bother responding at all...
Is this fair ?
well thats just plain stupid. why should a woman send you one back just because you sent one.... heres a handy hint dont send on expecting one in return "
Guess you are missing the point, I was referring to women who promised they'd send theirs in return which I see as fair when a women requests a pic from men first. The moment they got my pic, they didn't bother responding at all... I'm sure you'd understand this is not fair |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I sent my face pic to many women when they asked and mentioned it fair that they send theirs in return too. Only a very very few honoured what they promised, but most of the women didn't bother responding at all...
Is this fair ?
well thats just plain stupid. why should a woman send you one back just because you sent one.... heres a handy hint dont send on expecting one in return
Guess you are missing the point, I was referring to women who promised they'd send theirs in return which I see as fair when a women requests a pic from men first. The moment they got my pic, they didn't bother responding at all... I'm sure you'd understand this is not fair "
i entirely missed the point..they said they would send one back and didnt. they obviously didnt see anything that appealed to them...just move on..xx |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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"I sent my face pic to many women when they asked and mentioned it fair that they send theirs in return too. Only a very very few honoured what they promised, but most of the women didn't bother responding at all...
Is this fair ?
well thats just plain stupid. why should a woman send you one back just because you sent one.... heres a handy hint dont send on expecting one in return
Guess you are missing the point, I was referring to women who promised they'd send theirs in return which I see as fair when a women requests a pic from men first. The moment they got my pic, they didn't bother responding at all... I'm sure you'd understand this is not fair "
Sure b polite to respond with sorry ur not my type but they are not goin to send face pic back wen they didnt like urs |
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"I sent my face pic to many women when they asked and mentioned it fair that they send theirs in return too. Only a very very few honoured what they promised, but most of the women didn't bother responding at all...
Is this fair ?
well thats just plain stupid. why should a woman send you one back just because you sent one.... heres a handy hint dont send on expecting one in return
Guess you are missing the point, I was referring to women who promised they'd send theirs in return which I see as fair when a women requests a pic from men first. The moment they got my pic, they didn't bother responding at all... I'm sure you'd understand this is not fair "
Happens both ways.....has happened to me too but you just move on |
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"I sent my face pic to many women when they asked and mentioned it fair that they send theirs in return too. Only a very very few honoured what they promised, but most of the women didn't bother responding at all...
Is this fair ?
well thats just plain stupid. why should a woman send you one back just because you sent one.... heres a handy hint dont send on expecting one in return
Guess you are missing the point, I was referring to women who promised they'd send theirs in return which I see as fair when a women requests a pic from men first. The moment they got my pic, they didn't bother responding at all... I'm sure you'd understand this is not fair
i entirely missed the point..they said they would send one back and didnt. they obviously didnt see anything that appealed to them...just move on..xx "
I had couple of women respond back saying similar to 'Sorry, Not interested at the moment, however, I'm attaching my pic just to be fari'. This is what I'd understand as being courteous/fair. Fairness do exist but very rare to find on here, lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Jeez just move on, if a profile doesn't interest you or there's something about a profile you don't like move on. Its what the people you are complaining about do. |
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"Jeez just move on, if a profile doesn't interest you or there's something about a profile you don't like move on. Its what the people you are complaining about do. "
Yep. I've moved on. Just making the point clear while people are missing the point, lol |
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"Jeez just move on, if a profile doesn't interest you or there's something about a profile you don't like move on. Its what the people you are complaining about do. "
Spot on . If they don't agree on that how will ye get on if meet. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Jeez just move on, if a profile doesn't interest you or there's something about a profile you don't like move on. Its what the people you are complaining about do.
Spot on . If they don't agree on that how will ye get on if meet."
Exactly and curvy is is right you do have a nice ass |
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By *j47Man
over a year ago
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Single,married,attached what does it matter males are as entitled to their privacy as well as any other group, its an unfair condition to expect them to attach a face pic with a first msg at least after a few mails once u have established that ur sending it yes then fine. This place runs on trust at least afford the time to build trust is all that's asked or are we to trust that because a profile says its a Cpl or fem that its true.
just my view as an attached male i have no problem sending face pics but be warned i will not take responsibility for any damage cause by viewing such pics  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I sent my face pic to many women when they asked and mentioned it fair that they send theirs in return too. Only a very very few honoured what they promised, but most of the women didn't bother responding at all...
Is this fair ?
well thats just plain stupid. why should a woman send you one back just because you sent one.... heres a handy hint dont send on expecting one in return
Guess you are missing the point, I was referring to women who promised they'd send theirs in return which I see as fair when a women requests a pic from men first. The moment they got my pic, they didn't bother responding at all... I'm sure you'd understand this is not fair
Sure b polite to respond with sorry ur not my type but they are not goin to send face pic back wen they didnt like urs"
its easier said than done hal....i have said it before and gotten a torrent of abuse so the block button gets used but its been said to me and i just say ok no probs. A little pang of hurt happens but ya develop a thick skin on here. I hate hrting people so saying ur not my type isnt really my style |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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"I sent my face pic to many women when they asked and mentioned it fair that they send theirs in return too. Only a very very few honoured what they promised, but most of the women didn't bother responding at all...
Is this fair ?
well thats just plain stupid. why should a woman send you one back just because you sent one.... heres a handy hint dont send on expecting one in return
Guess you are missing the point, I was referring to women who promised they'd send theirs in return which I see as fair when a women requests a pic from men first. The moment they got my pic, they didn't bother responding at all... I'm sure you'd understand this is not fair
Sure b polite to respond with sorry ur not my type but they are not goin to send face pic back wen they didnt like urs
its easier said than done hal....i have said it before and gotten a torrent of abuse so the block button gets used but its been said to me and i just say ok no probs. A little pang of hurt happens but ya develop a thick skin on here. I hate hrting people so saying ur not my type isnt really my style "
Been said to me cc and not a bother.and im a sensitive type.I think ur not my type is as inoffensive as it gets.its not sayin ur ugly but just not wat petson hoes for.now I dont mind no reoly either but seen as its guys main thing to complain about thats as good as it gets |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Sorry but I like to see a face pix straight off no point in messaging for ages then at the end u get the pix and bang no attraction simple
Agree 
Waste of everybody's time "
I'm the same , I usually don't reply unless there is a face picture in first mail. I also don't send face pics in return if I don't feel there is an attraction. What's the point .. That's people pleasing in the extreme . |
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By *j47Man
over a year ago
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"Sorry but I like to see a face pix straight off no point in messaging for ages then at the end u get the pix and bang no attraction simple
Agree
Waste of everybody's time
I'm the same , I usually don't reply unless there is a face picture in first mail. I also don't send face pics in return if I don't feel there is an attraction. What's the point .. That's people pleasing in the extreme . "
while i can see ur point u probably don't get mails from cpls and fem profiles requesting a face pic but from a males point of view we do and we have to out the fakes with so many fakes i prefer to establish that they are who they say they are |
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By (user no longer on site)
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One of the reasons we ask for face pics is because we like to visualise the person we are talking too the other is to see if there is an attraction, there is no point wasting time on someone you have no connection with. Another reason is to avoid awkward moments if you know the person |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"One of the reasons we ask for face pics is because we like to visualise the person we are talking too the other is to see if there is an attraction, there is no point wasting time on someone you have no connection with. Another reason is to avoid awkward moments if you know the person"
same, but there is trust involved. If a couple send us their pic (at our request), we will always send back even if they don't suit us, maybe we are mad but fair is fair |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Maybe im different but never ask for a photo unless we have reached the stage of arranging a coffee meet. Always send one back. Hate being put in that box as a typical woman on here..... "
Not alone. I don't ask for one and I don't send one. A couple of emails and a chat will make me decide if coffee is on the cards. We can see each other then and then decide if its going further |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Guy's it's the way, it goes as once face picture sent, some don' t reply as , some can take offence to what they are told , when they are not the person type. Some person don't text back then plain and simple. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I never mail guys but sorry I have enou!gh friends I don't do ping pong mails if I like what I see then meet what the feck is the point if theres no attraction im sorry but then again most and I say most of the guys will fuck anything with a pulse take it what ever way u want to but I think the ladies are different and that is fact "
Terrible but true blondie !!! The fact that there's nearly 10 men to every woman on here doesn't help !!!! Lol
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"One of the reasons we ask for face pics is because we like to visualise the person we are talking too the other is to see if there is an attraction, there is no point wasting time on someone you have no connection with. Another reason is to avoid awkward moments if you know the person"
may I ask ..This applies of course not for men .. or ? men need no attraction..? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think a minority of profiles look for an up front face pic. If that does not appeal to you then maybe move on to another profile.
Plenty more profiles in the sea. |
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By *imwildWoman
over a year ago
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"Maybe im different but never ask for a photo unless we have reached the stage of arranging a coffee meet. Always send one back. Hate being put in that box as a typical woman on here.....
Not alone. I don't ask for one and I don't send one. A couple of emails and a clphat will make me decide if coffee is on the cards. We can see each other then and then decide if its going further"
Same. |
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By *avie tCouple
over a year ago
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We never send face pics ...so of course we never ask for one ...our 2 reasons being that on the net you never know where it will end up and for us a coffee is a better way of finding out if theres a attraction... |
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"We never send face pics ...so of course we never ask for one ...our 2 reasons being that on the net you never know where it will end up and for us a coffee is a better way of finding out if theres a attraction..."
but then isn't a lot of time spent drinking coffee with people you don't have the faintest attraction to? I do get that the social side is great, and meeting and chatting other people in the scene always interesting of course
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By *avie tCouple
over a year ago
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"We never send face pics ...so of course we never ask for one ...our 2 reasons being that on the net you never know where it will end up and for us a coffee is a better way of finding out if theres a attraction...
but then isn't a lot of time spent drinking coffee with people you don't have the faintest attraction to? I do get that the social side is great, and meeting and chatting other people in the scene always interesting of course
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Not for the social side and could drink coffee at any time ...but for us it has to work for both and we find it better to meet we find we can't tell that from a pic |
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I don't expect a face pic or send one till trust is built, and a lot of women join and have no info on their profile, not verified and ask for a face pic or no reply, that is a bit on the stupid side of things. |
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By *j47Man
over a year ago
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"We never send face pics ...so of course we never ask for one ...our 2 reasons being that on the net you never know where it will end up and for us a coffee is a better way of finding out if theres a attraction...
but then isn't a lot of time spent drinking coffee with people you don't have the faintest attraction to? I do get that the social side is great, and meeting and chatting other people in the scene always interesting of course
Not for the social side and could drink coffee at any time ...but for us it has to work for both and we find it better to meet we find we can't tell that from a pic"
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"We never send face pics ...so of course we never ask for one ...our 2 reasons being that on the net you never know where it will end up and for us a coffee is a better way of finding out if theres a attraction...
but then isn't a lot of time spent drinking coffee with people you don't have the faintest attraction to? I do get that the social side is great, and meeting and chatting other people in the scene always interesting of course
Not for the social side and could drink coffee at any time ...but for us it has to work for both and we find it better to meet we find we can't tell that from a pic
so do ye fancy a coffee "
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By *avie tCouple
over a year ago
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"We never send face pics ...so of course we never ask for one ...our 2 reasons being that on the net you never know where it will end up and for us a coffee is a better way of finding out if theres a attraction...
but then isn't a lot of time spent drinking coffee with people you don't have the faintest attraction to? I do get that the social side is great, and meeting and chatting other people in the scene always interesting of course
Not for the social side and could drink coffee at any time ...but for us it has to work for both and we find it better to meet we find we can't tell that from a pic
so do ye fancy a coffee "
Yip....time? Place? |
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"We never send face pics ...so of course we never ask for one ...our 2 reasons being that on the net you never know where it will end up and for us a coffee is a better way of finding out if theres a attraction...
but then isn't a lot of time spent drinking coffee with people you don't have the faintest attraction to? I do get that the social side is great, and meeting and chatting other people in the scene always interesting of course
Not for the social side and could drink coffee at any time ...but for us it has to work for both and we find it better to meet we find we can't tell that from a pic
so do ye fancy a coffee
Yip....time? Place?"
and that... is how it's done |
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By *avie tCouple
over a year ago
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"We never send face pics ...so of course we never ask for one ...our 2 reasons being that on the net you never know where it will end up and for us a coffee is a better way of finding out if theres a attraction...
but then isn't a lot of time spent drinking coffee with people you don't have the faintest attraction to? I do get that the social side is great, and meeting and chatting other people in the scene always interesting of course
Not for the social side and could drink coffee at any time ...but for us it has to work for both and we find it better to meet we find we can't tell that from a pic
so do ye fancy a coffee
Yip....time? Place?
and that... is how it's done "
Yip....next! |
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