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What happened to rock? It seems since Kurt Cobain "killed himself" cough Courtney cough, that the spirit of rock has/is dying. Yes there are still great rock bands out there, but they're far and few between, and the antics are no where to be seen. I can't imagine Matt Bellamy ( muse ) jumping headlong into the drumkit at the end of his set or overloading his amp on stage so it explodes. When was the last time a tv was thrown out a hotel window or a motorcycle driven down a hotel hallway? That's why the older bands music endures, the spirit behind it was real
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I suppose you can't have rebellion unless there's something to rebel against. Rebellious music probably captured the mood of it's time with student revolts etc, but then as the western world became wealthier and society became more open, less defined by religion, there were probably less things to rebel against.
I'm quite sure that Greenday would be perfectly happy not to be compared to Sid Vicious, tbh.
The young people of the moment seem to be fairly content to listen to Simon Cowell's factory produced stuff, but I'm sure they'll get fed up of that eventually and then some real musicians will come to the fore again. |
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"I suppose you can't have rebellion unless there's something to rebel against. Rebellious music probably captured the mood of it's time with student revolts etc, but then as the western world became wealthier and society became more open, less defined by religion, there were probably less things to rebel against.
I'm quite sure that Greenday would be perfectly happy not to be compared to Sid Vicious, tbh.
The young people of the moment seem to be fairly content to listen to Simon Cowell's factory produced stuff, but I'm sure they'll get fed up of that eventually and then some real musicians will come to the fore again. "
hell of a point Michael but i can see plenty in the world to rebel against. Is anybody ever happy with the ruling classes? Simon Cowell's plastic music is chewing gum for the ears
ok not Sid, bad example |
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"What happened to rock? It seems since Kurt Cobain "killed himself" cough Courtney cough, that the spirit of rock has/is dying. Yes there are still great rock bands out there, but they're far and few between, and the antics are no where to be seen. I can't imagine Matt Bellamy ( muse ) jumping headlong into the drumkit at the end of his set or overloading his amp on stage so it explodes. When was the last time a tv was thrown out a hotel window or a motorcycle driven down a hotel hallway? That's why the older bands music endures, the spirit behind it was real
would Joe Strummer and Sid Vicious really dig Greenday's " rebellious " music"
I was so rock n roll yesterday but today Im back to normal  |
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"It's all green tea and yoga now I'm afraid and if they're really wild then a stint in rehab for sex addiction for a bit of street cred.  "
i know, its bloody terrible |
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"What happened to rock? It seems since Kurt Cobain "killed himself" cough Courtney cough, that the spirit of rock has/is dying. Yes there are still great rock bands out there, but they're far and few between, and the antics are no where to be seen. I can't imagine Matt Bellamy ( muse ) jumping headlong into the drumkit at the end of his set or overloading his amp on stage so it explodes. When was the last time a tv was thrown out a hotel window or a motorcycle driven down a hotel hallway? That's why the older bands music endures, the spirit behind it was real
would Joe Strummer and Sid Vicious really dig Greenday's " rebellious " music
I was so rock n roll yesterday but today
Im back to normal "
Blue turn your amp up to 11 |
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"Rebellion takes many forms though.. Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson, Kris Kristofferson, these were all rebellious but they didn't normally reduce hotel rooms to rubble or stab people. "
agreed, all legends, quality artists and all on my playlist. Though not trashing hotels, they were wayward |
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"I suppose you can't have rebellion unless there's something to rebel against. Rebellious music probably captured the mood of it's time with student revolts etc, but then as the western world became wealthier and society became more open, less defined by religion, there were probably less things to rebel against.
I'm quite sure that Greenday would be perfectly happy not to be compared to Sid Vicious, tbh.
The young people of the moment seem to be fairly content to listen to Simon Cowell's factory produced stuff, but I'm sure they'll get fed up of that eventually and then some real musicians will come to the fore again.
hell of a point Michael but i can see plenty in the world to rebel against. Is anybody ever happy with the ruling classes? Simon Cowell's plastic music is chewing gum for the ears
ok not Sid, bad example"
The extent of unhappiness could be relevant. In the sixties there were major issues like racial discrimination in the states, the Vietnam War, etc, which turned a lot of young people against the governments of the day and grew disillusioned with normal society. I dunno, that may have nothing at all to do with it, but I suspect it might have created a generation that were open to something different.
Oh.. and drugs. They certainly helped!  |
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" I can't imagine Matt Bellamy ( muse ) jumping headlong into the drumkit at the end of his set or overloading his amp
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I have seen muse wreck the gaff. |
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"I suppose you can't have rebellion unless there's something to rebel against. Rebellious music probably captured the mood of it's time with student revolts etc, but then as the western world became wealthier and society became more open, less defined by religion, there were probably less things to rebel against.
I'm quite sure that Greenday would be perfectly happy not to be compared to Sid Vicious, tbh.
The young people of the moment seem to be fairly content to listen to Simon Cowell's factory produced stuff, but I'm sure they'll get fed up of that eventually and then some real musicians will come to the fore again.
hell of a point Michael but i can see plenty in the world to rebel against. Is anybody ever happy with the ruling classes? Simon Cowell's plastic music is chewing gum for the ears
ok not Sid, bad example
The extent of unhappiness could be relevant. In the sixties there were major issues like racial discrimination in the states, the Vietnam War, etc, which turned a lot of young people against the governments of the day and grew disillusioned with normal society. I dunno, that may have nothing at all to do with it, but I suspect it might have created a generation that were open to something different.
Oh.. and drugs. They certainly helped! "
There is still plenty of unjust wars and drugs in the world |
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"I suppose you can't have rebellion unless there's something to rebel against. Rebellious music probably captured the mood of it's time with student revolts etc, but then as the western world became wealthier and society became more open, less defined by religion, there were probably less things to rebel against.
I'm quite sure that Greenday would be perfectly happy not to be compared to Sid Vicious, tbh.
The young people of the moment seem to be fairly content to listen to Simon Cowell's factory produced stuff, but I'm sure they'll get fed up of that eventually and then some real musicians will come to the fore again.
hell of a point Michael but i can see plenty in the world to rebel against. Is anybody ever happy with the ruling classes? Simon Cowell's plastic music is chewing gum for the ears
ok not Sid, bad example
The extent of unhappiness could be relevant. In the sixties there were major issues like racial discrimination in the states, the Vietnam War, etc, which turned a lot of young people against the governments of the day and grew disillusioned with normal society. I dunno, that may have nothing at all to do with it, but I suspect it might have created a generation that were open to something different.
Oh.. and drugs. They certainly helped!
There is still plenty of unjust wars and drugs in the world"
There sure are. So people protest the governments and wear V for vendetta masks and are portrayed as being conspiracy theorists i.e. mental. Sitting in their newspaper lined rooms, head wrapped in tinfoil, believing everything they read on t'interweb.
How much of a political statement is chucking a telly out a window or accidentally munching on a live bat really making? Surely they were nothing more than shock tactics to gain publicity and therefore sell records. These antics no longer shock. Riding a wrecking ball with ur bliff out is where it's at. Now wee Miley Cyrus off of Disney is singing about snorting lines and simulating sex acts with married men. Same principal. No such thing as bad publicity. Who actually watches the VMAs? I don't. Not many I know do. Be we ALL searched youtube to see what the fuss was about. Same as GaGa in her granny knickers the other week. Got people talking and googling. High five girls, you did what you set out to achieve. Regardless of your thoughts about their style of music, they're playing the game, getting the headlines and being the "rebels". IMO |
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"I suppose you can't have rebellion unless there's something to rebel against. Rebellious music probably captured the mood of it's time with student revolts etc, but then as the western world became wealthier and society became more open, less defined by religion, there were probably less things to rebel against.
I'm quite sure that Greenday would be perfectly happy not to be compared to Sid Vicious, tbh.
The young people of the moment seem to be fairly content to listen to Simon Cowell's factory produced stuff, but I'm sure they'll get fed up of that eventually and then some real musicians will come to the fore again.
hell of a point Michael but i can see plenty in the world to rebel against. Is anybody ever happy with the ruling classes? Simon Cowell's plastic music is chewing gum for the ears
ok not Sid, bad example
The extent of unhappiness could be relevant. In the sixties there were major issues like racial discrimination in the states, the Vietnam War, etc, which turned a lot of young people against the governments of the day and grew disillusioned with normal society. I dunno, that may have nothing at all to do with it, but I suspect it might have created a generation that were open to something different.
Oh.. and drugs. They certainly helped!
There is still plenty of unjust wars and drugs in the world"
'Down with this sort of thing'  |
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"I suppose you can't have rebellion unless there's something to rebel against. Rebellious music probably captured the mood of it's time with student revolts etc, but then as the western world became wealthier and society became more open, less defined by religion, there were probably less things to rebel against.
I'm quite sure that Greenday would be perfectly happy not to be compared to Sid Vicious, tbh.
The young people of the moment seem to be fairly content to listen to Simon Cowell's factory produced stuff, but I'm sure they'll get fed up of that eventually and then some real musicians will come to the fore again.
hell of a point Michael but i can see plenty in the world to rebel against. Is anybody ever happy with the ruling classes? Simon Cowell's plastic music is chewing gum for the ears
ok not Sid, bad example
The extent of unhappiness could be relevant. In the sixties there were major issues like racial discrimination in the states, the Vietnam War, etc, which turned a lot of young people against the governments of the day and grew disillusioned with normal society. I dunno, that may have nothing at all to do with it, but I suspect it might have created a generation that were open to something different.
Oh.. and drugs. They certainly helped!
There is still plenty of unjust wars and drugs in the world
There sure are. So people protest the governments and wear V for vendetta masks and are portrayed as being conspiracy theorists i.e. mental. Sitting in their newspaper lined rooms, head wrapped in tinfoil, believing everything they read on t'interweb.
How much of a political statement is chucking a telly out a window or accidentally munching on a live bat really making? Surely they were nothing more than shock tactics to gain publicity and therefore sell records. These antics no longer shock. Riding a wrecking ball with ur bliff out is where it's at. Now wee Miley Cyrus off of Disney is singing about snorting lines and simulating sex acts with married men. Same principal. No such thing as bad publicity. Who actually watches the VMAs? I don't. Not many I know do. Be we ALL searched youtube to see what the fuss was about. Same as GaGa in her granny knickers the other week. Got people talking and googling. High five girls, you did what you set out to achieve. Regardless of your thoughts about their style of music, they're playing the game, getting the headlines
and being the "rebels". IMO "
Can't really argue with your point, a lot of outrageous acts are purely publicity and the girls are playing the game well but their music isn't really as rebellious or anti establishment as say the ramones
more importantly, Zanna if/when you get round to riding a wreckin ball with your bliff out, let the fabbers know, we'll come support your venture  |
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"I suppose you can't have rebellion unless there's something to rebel against. Rebellious music probably captured the mood of it's time with student revolts etc, but then as the western world became wealthier and society became more open, less defined by religion, there were probably less things to rebel against.
I'm quite sure that Greenday would be perfectly happy not to be compared to Sid Vicious, tbh.
The young people of the moment seem to be fairly content to listen to Simon Cowell's factory produced stuff, but I'm sure they'll get fed up of that eventually and then some real musicians will come to the fore again.
hell of a point Michael but i can see plenty in the world to rebel against. Is anybody ever happy with the ruling classes? Simon Cowell's plastic music is chewing gum for the ears
ok not Sid, bad example
The extent of unhappiness could be relevant. In the sixties there were major issues like racial discrimination in the states, the Vietnam War, etc, which turned a lot of young people against the governments of the day and grew disillusioned with normal society. I dunno, that may have nothing at all to do with it, but I suspect it might have created a generation that were open to something different.
Oh.. and drugs. They certainly helped!
There is still plenty of unjust wars and drugs in the world
There sure are. So people protest the governments and wear V for vendetta masks and are portrayed as being conspiracy theorists i.e. mental. Sitting in their newspaper lined rooms, head wrapped in tinfoil, believing everything they read on t'interweb.
How much of a political statement is chucking a telly out a window or accidentally munching on a live bat really making? Surely they were nothing more than shock tactics to gain publicity and therefore sell records. These antics no longer shock. Riding a wrecking ball with ur bliff out is where it's at. Now wee Miley Cyrus off of Disney is singing about snorting lines and simulating sex acts with married men. Same principal. No such thing as bad publicity. Who actually watches the VMAs? I don't. Not many I know do. Be we ALL searched youtube to see what the fuss was about. Same as GaGa in her granny knickers the other week. Got people talking and googling. High five girls, you did what you set out to achieve. Regardless of your thoughts about their style of music, they're playing the game, getting the headlines
and being the "rebels". IMO
Can't really argue with your point, a lot of outrageous acts are purely publicity and the girls are playing the game well but their music isn't really as rebellious or anti establishment as say the ramones
more importantly, Zanna if/when you get round to riding a wreckin ball with your bliff out, let the fabbers know, we'll come support your venture "
So if the lyrics are getting their point across - is bucking a telly out a window going to emphasise the point or make their view any more credible?
Ah minty man don't you worry. You folks will be the first to know. D'ya think a tyre swing would have the same effect?  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I suppose you can't have rebellion unless there's something to rebel against. Rebellious music probably captured the mood of it's time with student revolts etc, but then as the western world became wealthier and society became more open, less defined by religion, there were probably less things to rebel against.
I'm quite sure that Greenday would be perfectly happy not to be compared to Sid Vicious, tbh.
The young people of the moment seem to be fairly content to listen to Simon Cowell's factory produced stuff, but I'm sure they'll get fed up of that eventually and then some real musicians will come to the fore again.
hell of a point Michael but i can see plenty in the world to rebel against. Is anybody ever happy with the ruling classes? Simon Cowell's plastic music is chewing gum for the ears
ok not Sid, bad example
The extent of unhappiness could be relevant. In the sixties there were major issues like racial discrimination in the states, the Vietnam War, etc, which turned a lot of young people against the governments of the day and grew disillusioned with normal society. I dunno, that may have nothing at all to do with it, but I suspect it might have created a generation that were open to something different.
Oh.. and drugs. They certainly helped!
There is still plenty of unjust wars and drugs in the world
There sure are. So people protest the governments and wear V for vendetta masks and are portrayed as being conspiracy theorists i.e. mental. Sitting in their newspaper lined rooms, head wrapped in tinfoil, believing everything they read on t'interweb.
How much of a political statement is chucking a telly out a window or accidentally munching on a live bat really making? Surely they were nothing more than shock tactics to gain publicity and therefore sell records. These antics no longer shock. Riding a wrecking ball with ur bliff out is where it's at. Now wee Miley Cyrus off of Disney is singing about snorting lines and simulating sex acts with married men. Same principal. No such thing as bad publicity. Who actually watches the VMAs? I don't. Not many I know do. Be we ALL searched youtube to see what the fuss was about. Same as GaGa in her granny knickers the other week. Got people talking and googling. High five girls, you did what you set out to achieve. Regardless of your thoughts about their style of music, they're playing the game, getting the headlines
and being the "rebels". IMO
Can't really argue with your point, a lot of outrageous acts are purely publicity and the girls are playing the game well but their music isn't really as rebellious or anti establishment as say the ramones
more importantly, Zanna if/when you get round to riding a wreckin ball with your bliff out, let the fabbers know, we'll come support your venture
So if the lyrics are getting their point across - is bucking a telly out a window going to emphasise the point or make their view any more credible?
Ah minty man don't you worry. You folks will be the first to know. D'ya think
a tyre swing would have the same effect? "
No, the tv out the window is just part of the lunacy of a drink fuelled after party.
lol i'd like to think we would. Actually for several reasons the tyre swing may be more appealing |
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"Rebellion takes many forms though.. Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson, Kris Kristofferson, these were all rebellious but they didn't normally reduce hotel rooms to rubble or stab people. "
they did it with their music willie nelson has spent most of his life fighting the banks and their policys of forcloseing on farms |
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"Rebellion takes many forms though.. Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson, Kris Kristofferson, these were all rebellious but they didn't normally reduce hotel rooms to rubble or stab people.
they did it with their music willie nelson has spent most of his life fighting the banks and their policys of forcloseing on farms"
he's a leg end |
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lol i'd like to think we would. Actually for several reasons the tyre swing may be more appealing
Anyone have a tree and a rope I cud borrow?  "
I have several trees earmarked and a reputable hardware store, if that's any good
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lol i'd like to think we would. Actually for several reasons the tyre swing may be more appealing
Anyone have a tree and a rope I cud borrow? "
You not forget a tyre there as well??
If not, i've the number for Lifeline, if you need it  |
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Though how much of today's lack of rock and roll antics is peoples apathy, yes a lot of people complain about governments but how many will actually get up of their soap box armchairs and get up and do anything about it? Also the pushing of boundaries in previous times means they are harder to push now, for instance look at at the porn industry now compared to twenty years ago, hell even ten years ago |
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"Though how much of today's lack of rock and roll antics is peoples apathy, yes a lot of people complain about governments but how many will actually get up of their soap box armchairs and get up and do anything about it? Also the pushing of boundaries in previous times means they are harder to push now, for instance look at at the porn industry now compared to twenty years ago, hell even ten years ago"
quite right, how far would you have to go to shock nowadays?
Quite right armchair rebels are no good but how do you get people up? |
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"Though how much of today's lack of rock and roll antics is peoples apathy, yes a lot of people complain about governments but how many will actually get up of their soap box armchairs and get up and do anything about it? Also the pushing of boundaries in previous times means they are harder to push now, for instance look at at the porn industry now compared to twenty years ago, hell even ten years ago
quite right, how far would you have to go to shock nowadays?
Quite right armchair rebels are no good but how do you get people up? "
It's quite simple, it's called democracy....you lobby, debate and educate people and if your views have any merit then through democratic means they are adopted. Rebellion has no place in a democratic society, which, in case people have forgotten, means equal rights for all BUT ALSO the majority rule. Minorities argue, that isn't equality when in fact all they want is a veto over the majority, to suit their individual views. Suck it up.....most are Rebels without a clue |
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"Though how much of today's lack of rock and roll antics is peoples apathy, yes a lot of people complain about governments but how many will actually get up of their soap box armchairs and get up and do anything about it? Also the pushing of boundaries in previous times means they are harder to push now, for instance look at at the porn industry now compared to twenty years ago, hell even ten years ago
quite right, how far would you have to go to shock nowadays?
Quite right armchair rebels are no good but how do you get people up?
It's quite simple, it's called democracy....you lobby, debate and educate people and if your views have any merit then through democratic means they are adopted. Rebellion has no place in a democratic society, which, in case people have forgotten, means equal rights for all BUT ALSO the majority rule. Minorities argue, that isn't equality when in fact all they want is a veto over the majority, to suit their individual views. Suck it up.....most are
Rebels without a clue"
ah but then there are the rebels with a clue, well educated who can see the ruling classes are self serving gits with no interest in the working classes till an election crops up |
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"Though how much of today's lack of rock and roll antics is peoples apathy, yes a lot of people complain about governments but how many will actually get up of their soap box armchairs and get up and do anything about it? Also the pushing of boundaries in previous times means they are harder to push now, for instance look at at the porn industry now compared to twenty years ago, hell even ten years ago
quite right, how far would you have to go to shock nowadays?
Quite right armchair rebels are no good but how do you get people up?
It's quite simple, it's called democracy....you lobby, debate and educate people and if your views have any merit then through democratic means they are adopted. Rebellion has no place in a democratic society, which, in case people have forgotten, means equal rights for all BUT ALSO the majority rule. Minorities argue, that isn't equality when in fact all they want is a veto over the majority, to suit their individual views. Suck it up.....most are
Rebels without a clue
ah but then there are the rebels with a clue, well educated who can see the ruling classes are self serving gits with no interest in the working classes till an election crops up"
But do they do anything? |
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"What happened to rock? It seems since Kurt Cobain "killed himself" cough Courtney cough, that the spirit of rock has/is dying. Yes there are still great rock bands out there, but they're far and few between, and the antics are no where to be seen. I can't imagine Matt Bellamy ( muse ) jumping headlong into the drumkit at the end of his set or overloading his amp on stage so it explodes. When was the last time a tv was thrown out a hotel window or a motorcycle driven down a hotel hallway? That's why the older bands music endures, the spirit behind it was real
would Joe Strummer and Sid Vicious really dig Greenday's " rebellious " music"
Just picking up on the cough Courtney cough comment, I think it has pretty much been proven beyond doubt that Kurt killed himself, oh and also he didn't write the Live through This album either, just to put that out there! |
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"What happened to rock? It seems since Kurt Cobain "killed himself" cough Courtney cough, that the spirit of rock has/is dying. Yes there are still great rock bands out there, but they're far and few between, and the antics are no where to be seen. I can't imagine Matt Bellamy ( muse ) jumping headlong into the drumkit at the end of his set or overloading his amp on stage so it explodes. When was the last time a tv was thrown out a hotel window or a motorcycle driven down a hotel hallway? That's why the older bands music endures, the spirit behind it was real
would Joe Strummer and Sid Vicious really dig Greenday's " rebellious " music
Just picking up on the cough Courtney cough comment, I think it has pretty much been proven beyond doubt that Kurt killed himself, oh and also he
didn't write t
he Live through This album either, just to put that out there!"
was waiting on somebody to snag that
It was never proven conclusively one way or the other what happened. Forensics didn't investigate at all, police just saw a dead heroin addict with a shotgun and a hole in his head and drew the easy answer. Post mortem showed he had three times the leathal dose if heroin in him already so he would have been in lala land, how does somebody have the where with all to pull a trigger when they're that spaced?
I don't know if he did or didn't write it but yoy can hear his influence in Hole's music
alsi Nirvana were not the best grunge example, pearljam and soundgarden- streets ahead |
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"Though how much of today's lack of rock and roll antics is peoples apathy, yes a lot of people complain about governments but how many will actually get up of their soap box armchairs and get up and do anything about it? Also the pushing of boundaries in previous times means they are harder to push now, for instance look at at the porn industry now compared to twenty years ago, hell even ten years ago
quite right, how far would you have to go to shock nowadays?
Quite right armchair rebels are no good but how do you get people up?
It's quite simple, it's called democracy....you lobby, debate and educate people and if your views have any merit then through democratic means they are adopted. Rebellion has no place in a democratic society, which, in case people have forgotten, means equal rights for all BUT ALSO the majority rule. Minorities argue, that isn't equality when in fact all they want is a veto over the majority, to suit their individual views. Suck it up.....most are
Rebels without a clue
ah but then there are the rebels with a clue, well educated who can see the ruling classes are self serving gits with no interest in the working classes till an election crops up
But do they do anything?"
nope, just complain |
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"What happened to rock? It seems since Kurt Cobain "killed himself" cough Courtney cough, that the spirit of rock has/is dying. Yes there are still great rock bands out there, but they're far and few between, and the antics are no where to be seen. I can't imagine Matt Bellamy ( muse ) jumping headlong into the drumkit at the end of his set or overloading his amp on stage so it explodes. When was the last time a tv was thrown out a hotel window or a motorcycle driven down a hotel hallway? That's why the older bands music endures, the spirit behind it was real
would Joe Strummer and Sid Vicious really dig Greenday's " rebellious " music
Just picking up on the cough Courtney cough comment, I think it has pretty much been proven beyond doubt that Kurt killed himself, oh and also he
didn't write t
he Live through This album either, just to put that out there!
was waiting on somebody to snag that
It was never proven conclusively one way or the other what happened. Forensics didn't investigate at all, police just saw a dead heroin addict with a shotgun and a hole in his head and drew the easy answer. Post mortem showed he had three times the leathal dose if heroin in him already so he would have been in lala land, how does somebody have the where with all to pull a trigger when they're that spaced?
I don't know if he did or didn't write it but yoy can hear his influence in Hole's music
alsi Nirvana were not the best grunge example, pearljam and soundgarden- streets ahead"
well we shall agree to disagree on that point, I'm going to be nice to everyone on the forums forever and ever amen. Love Pearl Jam, very partial to grunge, big Faith no More fan here too. |
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"What happened to rock? It seems since Kurt Cobain "killed himself" cough Courtney cough, that the spirit of rock has/is dying. Yes there are still great rock bands out there, but they're far and few between, and the antics are no where to be seen. I can't imagine Matt Bellamy ( muse ) jumping headlong into the drumkit at the end of his set or overloading his amp on stage so it explodes. When was the last time a tv was thrown out a hotel window or a motorcycle driven down a hotel hallway? That's why the older bands music endures, the spirit behind it was real
would Joe Strummer and Sid Vicious really dig Greenday's " rebellious " music
Just picking up on the cough Courtney cough comment, I think it has pretty much been proven beyond doubt that Kurt killed himself, oh and also he
didn't write t
he Live through This album either, just to put that out there!
was waiting on somebody to snag that
It was never proven conclusively one way or the other what happened. Forensics didn't investigate at all, police just saw a dead heroin addict with a shotgun and a hole in his head and drew the easy answer. Post mortem showed he had three times the leathal dose if heroin in him already so he would have been in lala land, how does somebody have the where with all to pull a trigger when they're that spaced?
I don't know if he did or didn't write it but yoy can hear his influence in Hole's music
alsi Nirvana were not the best grunge example, pearljam and soundgarden- streets ahead
well we shall agree to disagree on that point, I'm going to be nice to everyone
on the forums forever and ever amen. Love Pearl Jam, very partial to grunge, big Faith no More fan here too."
damn, thought a debate was coming my way
Aww faith no more are just epic |
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"What happened to rock? It seems since Kurt Cobain "killed himself" cough Courtney cough, that the spirit of rock has/is dying. Yes there are still great rock bands out there, but they're far and few between, and the antics are no where to be seen. I can't imagine Matt Bellamy ( muse ) jumping headlong into the drumkit at the end of his set or overloading his amp on stage so it explodes. When was the last time a tv was thrown out a hotel window or a motorcycle driven down a hotel hallway? That's why the older bands music endures, the spirit behind it was real
would Joe Strummer and Sid Vicious really dig Greenday's " rebellious " music
Just picking up on the cough Courtney cough comment, I think it has pretty much been proven beyond doubt that Kurt killed himself, oh and also he
didn't write t
he Live through This album either, just to put that out there!
was waiting on somebody to snag that
It was never proven conclusively one way or the other what happened. Forensics didn't investigate at all, police just saw a dead heroin addict with a shotgun and a hole in his head and drew the easy answer. Post mortem showed he had three times the leathal dose if heroin in him already so he would have been in lala land, how does somebody have the where with all to pull a trigger when they're that spaced?
I don't know if he did or didn't write it but yoy can hear his influence in Hole's music
alsi Nirvana were not the best grunge example, pearljam and soundgarden- streets ahead
well we shall agree to disagree on that point, I'm going to be nice to everyone
on the forums forever and ever amen. Love Pearl Jam, very partial to grunge, big Faith no More fan here too.
damn, thought a debate was coming my way
Aww faith no more are just epic "
No debates outta me, I'm just going to smile and nod from now on. Yeah, Mike Patton is a proper ledge. |
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"What happened to rock? It seems since Kurt Cobain "killed himself" cough Courtney cough, that the spirit of rock has/is dying. Yes there are still great rock bands out there, but they're far and few between, and the antics are no where to be seen. I can't imagine Matt Bellamy ( muse ) jumping headlong into the drumkit at the end of his set or overloading his amp on stage so it explodes. When was the last time a tv was thrown out a hotel window or a motorcycle driven down a hotel hallway? That's why the older bands music endures, the spirit behind it was real
would Joe Strummer and Sid Vicious really dig Greenday's " rebellious " music
Just picking up on the cough Courtney cough comment, I think it has pretty much been proven beyond doubt that Kurt killed himself, oh and also he
didn't write t
he Live through This album either, just to put that out there!
was waiting on somebody to snag that
It was never proven conclusively one way or the other what happened. Forensics didn't investigate at all, police just saw a dead heroin addict with a shotgun and a hole in his head and drew the easy answer. Post mortem showed he had three times the leathal dose if heroin in him already so he would have been in lala land, how does somebody have the where with all to pull a trigger when they're that spaced?
I don't know if he did or didn't write it but yoy can hear his influence in Hole's music
alsi Nirvana were not the best grunge example, pearljam and soundgarden- streets ahead
well we shall agree to disagree on that point, I'm going to be nice to everyone
on the forums forever and ever amen. Love Pearl Jam, very partial to grunge, big Faith no More fan here too.
damn, thought a debate was coming my way
Aww faith no more are just epic
No debates outta me, I'm just going to smile and nod from now on. Yeah, Mike Patton is a proper ledge."
aw damn, then i have but two things to say to you
1) Courtney did it
2) what is it? |
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"Though how much of today's lack of rock and roll antics is peoples apathy, yes a lot of people complain about governments but how many will actually get up of their soap box armchairs and get up and do anything about it? Also the pushing of boundaries in previous times means they are harder to push now, for instance look at at the porn industry now compared to twenty years ago, hell even ten years ago
quite right, how far would you have to go to shock nowadays?
Quite right armchair rebels are no good but how do you get people up?
It's quite simple, it's called democracy....you lobby, debate and educate people and if your views have any merit then through democratic means they are adopted. Rebellion has no place in a democratic society, which, in case people have forgotten, means equal rights for all BUT ALSO the majority rule. Minorities argue, that isn't equality when in fact all they want is a veto over the majority, to suit their individual views. Suck it up.....most are
Rebels without a clue
ah but then there are the rebels with a clue, well educated who can see the ruling classes are self serving gits with no interest in the working classes till an election crops up
But do they do anything?
nope, just complain"
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"What happened to rock? It seems since Kurt Cobain "killed himself" cough Courtney cough, that the spirit of rock has/is dying. Yes there are still great rock bands out there, but they're far and few between, and the antics are no where to be seen. I can't imagine Matt Bellamy ( muse ) jumping headlong into the drumkit at the end of his set or overloading his amp on stage so it explodes. When was the last time a tv was thrown out a hotel window or a motorcycle driven down a hotel hallway? That's why the older bands music endures, the spirit behind it was real
would Joe Strummer and Sid Vicious really dig Greenday's " rebellious " music
Just picking up on the cough Courtney cough comment, I think it has pretty much been proven beyond doubt that Kurt killed himself, oh and also he
didn't write t
he Live through This album either, just to put that out there!
was waiting on somebody to snag that
It was never proven conclusively one way or the other what happened. Forensics didn't investigate at all, police just saw a dead heroin addict with a shotgun and a hole in his head and drew the easy answer. Post mortem showed he had three times the leathal dose if heroin in him already so he would have been in lala land, how does somebody have the where with all to pull a trigger when they're that spaced?
I don't know if he did or didn't write it but yoy can hear his influence in Hole's music
alsi Nirvana were not the best grunge example, pearljam and soundgarden- streets ahead
well we shall agree to disagree on that point, I'm going to be nice to everyone
on the forums forever and ever amen. Love Pearl Jam, very partial to grunge, big Faith no More fan here too.
damn, thought a debate was coming my way
Aww faith no more are just epic
No debates outta me, I'm just going to smile and nod from now on. Yeah, Mike Patton is a proper ledge.
aw damn, then i have but two things to say to you
1) Courtney did it
2) what is it?"
Courtney rules! |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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"What happened to rock? It seems since Kurt Cobain "killed himself" cough Courtney cough, that the spirit of rock has/is dying. Yes there are still great rock bands out there, but they're far and few between, and the antics are no where to be seen. I can't imagine Matt Bellamy ( muse ) jumping headlong into the drumkit at the end of his set or overloading his amp on stage so it explodes. When was the last time a tv was thrown out a hotel window or a motorcycle driven down a hotel hallway? That's why the older bands music endures, the spirit behind it was real
would Joe Strummer and Sid Vicious really dig Greenday's " rebellious " music
Just picking up on the cough Courtney cough comment, I think it has pretty much been proven beyond doubt that Kurt killed himself, oh and also he
didn't write t
he Live through This album either, just to put that out there!
was waiting on somebody to snag that
It was never proven conclusively one way or the other what happened. Forensics didn't investigate at all, police just saw a dead heroin addict with a shotgun and a hole in his head and drew the easy answer. Post mortem showed he had three times the leathal dose if heroin in him already so he would have been in lala land, how does somebody have the where with all to pull a trigger when they're that spaced?
I don't know if he did or didn't write it but yoy can hear his influence in Hole's music
alsi Nirvana were not the best grunge example, pearljam and soundgarden- streets ahead
well we shall agree to disagree on that point, I'm going to be nice to everyone
on the forums forever and ever amen. Love Pearl Jam, very partial to grunge, big Faith no More fan here too.
damn, thought a debate was coming my way
Aww faith no more are just epic
No debates outta me, I'm just going to smile and nod from now on. Yeah, Mike Patton is a proper ledge.
aw damn, then i have but two things to say to you
1) Courtney did it
2) what is it?"
Its it |
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"What happened to rock? It seems since Kurt Cobain "killed himself" cough Courtney cough, that the spirit of rock has/is dying. Yes there are still great rock bands out there, but they're far and few between, and the antics are no where to be seen. I can't imagine Matt Bellamy ( muse ) jumping headlong into the drumkit at the end of his set or overloading his amp on stage so it explodes. When was the last time a tv was thrown out a hotel window or a motorcycle driven down a hotel hallway? That's why the older bands music endures, the spirit behind it was real
would Joe Strummer and Sid Vicious really dig Greenday's " rebellious " music
Just picking up on the cough Courtney cough comment, I think it has pretty much been proven beyond doubt that Kurt killed himself, oh and also he
didn't write t
he Live through This album either, just to put that out there!
was waiting on somebody to snag that
It was never proven conclusively one way or the other what happened. Forensics didn't investigate at all, police just saw a dead heroin addict with a shotgun and a hole in his head and drew the easy answer. Post mortem showed he had three times the leathal dose if heroin in him already so he would have been in lala land, how does somebody have the where with all to pull a trigger when they're that spaced?
I don't know if he did or didn't write it but yoy can hear his influence in Hole's music
alsi Nirvana were not the best grunge example, pearljam and soundgarden- streets ahead
well we shall agree to disagree on that point, I'm going to be nice to everyone
on the forums forever and ever amen. Love Pearl Jam, very partial to grunge, big Faith no More fan here too.
damn, thought a debate was coming my way
Aww faith no more are just epic
No debates outta me, I'm just going to smile and nod from now on. Yeah, Mike Patton is a proper ledge.
aw damn, then i have but two things to say to you
1) Courtney did it
2) what is I
t?
Its it"
lmao can you feel it, see it, hear it today? |
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