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By *og-Man OP   Man 3 weeks ago

somewhere

So it's offical

There's a general election on November 29th

Here's to a clean argument in the thread as to who you want to win and who you want to lose

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By *adger BrocMan 3 weeks ago

Co. Cork

My first choice would be a "National Coalition" made up of centre and centre left TD's from across that part of the political spectrum.

Do it in the same way a National government would be put in place to manage a major crisis such as a war or major natural disaster.

Give them 4 years to sort out the Health and Housing crisis and then back to normal political process after that job has been done.

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By *og-Man OP   Man 3 weeks ago

somewhere


"My first choice would be a "National Coalition" made up of centre and centre left TD's from across that part of the political spectrum.

Do it in the same way a National government would be put in place to manage a major crisis such as a war or major natural disaster.

Give them 4 years to sort out the Health and Housing crisis and then back to normal political process after that job has been done.

"

Great idea.....

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By *huCullainMan 3 weeks ago

Rathowen

Sorry. Thought it was a national erection thread.

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By *he KakapoMan 3 weeks ago

A nice rock

I'm actually stumped. I really don't know who I want in or out.

I voted strategically in the recent local/European elections just to ensure no extreme right candidate got elected but it felt Hollow.

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By *ildarekinkstersCouple 3 weeks ago

kinkytown

Anyone but ff, fg, the greens and any far right scum. I know it'll end up being ff or fg or both as we Irish love the auld misery.

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By *addyIrishMan21Man 3 weeks ago

cavan


"Anyone but ff, fg, the greens and any far right scum. I know it'll end up being ff or fg or both as we Irish love the auld misery. "

What's the alternative?

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By *ildarekinkstersCouple 3 weeks ago

kinkytown


"Anyone but ff, fg, the greens and any far right scum. I know it'll end up being ff or fg or both as we Irish love the auld misery.

What's the alternative? "

Sinn fein, social democrats, PBP even labour and I hate labour after Joan was leader of them that time.

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By *addyIrishMan21Man 3 weeks ago

cavan


"Anyone but ff, fg, the greens and any far right scum. I know it'll end up being ff or fg or both as we Irish love the auld misery.

What's the alternative?

Sinn fein, social democrats, PBP even labour and I hate labour after Joan was leader of them that time. "

PBP anti rural, doesnt suit me, labour is a joke, shinners maybe, but would you trust them? No better than ffg imo.

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By *adger BrocMan 3 weeks ago

Co. Cork


"Anyone but ff, fg, the greens and any far right scum. I know it'll end up being ff or fg or both as we Irish love the auld misery.

What's the alternative?

Sinn fein, social democrats, PBP even labour and I hate labour after Joan was leader of them that time.

PBP anti rural, doesnt suit me, labour is a joke, shinners maybe, but would you trust them? No better than ffg imo. "

......

Sweet holy Easter Lilly, G Adam's and co must be squirming with extreme discomfort to see SF being described as "no better than Ff or FG.

The world has certainly gone full circle.....and the Obnoxious Orange Oaf is back in the building.

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By *ozzlesMan 3 weeks ago

galway

I hate coalitions because the blame is too easily avoided but on the plus side the small party that supports the bigger one or two can have an Influence. Unfortunately we have the greens who will go support ffg for a few cycle lanes and the Healy raes and their kind who will look after their couple of square miles and feic the begrudgers.

SD or Labour I think.

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By *electableicecreamMan 3 weeks ago

The West


"I'm actually stumped. I really don't know who I want in or out.

I voted strategically in the recent local/European elections just to ensure no extreme right candidate got elected but it felt Hollow."

Same

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By *asual777Man 3 weeks ago

i travel all over

The centre right main government parties are only so economically . Socially they’re left leaning really . Imagine the republicans or tories overseeing the referendums we had here.

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By *arbieandbaldyCouple 3 weeks ago

Dublin, Liverpool

For me this time around I'll be voting The Nationalist Alliance. Voted for SF all my life but after they failed as an opposition party, voted for the hate speech, supported lockdowns and flipflop on every major issue. Pearse should have been leader and not Mary Lou.

FF & FG & Greens have ruined this country. 2 yrs of lockdowns & restrictions that destroyed business, missed cancer, people who suffered with mental health were isolated, loved ones left die alone in elderly home. They banned the exploration of oil & gas, blocked lng plant in Tarbert, let way to many people in, spending nearly 3 million a day on people who shouldn't be here, 14k homeless, children's hospital costing billions, waiting list nearly 900k, lack of services for home help and special needs, can't get into see a doctor, cost of living gone through the roof, cost of housing been driven by the rapid population increase, voting for them is more of the same.

PB4P would bankrupt the country, Holly Cairns had a pedo in the party and can't say what a woman is and supported hate speech, along with Labour who forgot that they are supposedly meant to represent the working class, especially since they get a cut of the union membership paid by the workers.

So for the First time every I'll vote for the right. People who say they will put the Irish people first, who will deported people who shouldn't be here, who will put a cap on immigration, look to bring our own home from abroad, make sure our own are housed first and homes are actually affordable in this country, they are willing to give the green light for exploration of oil and gas, increase our fishing fleets, protect our agricultural and stop the sex education going into schools for kids under 5th year. And before people start mouthing off about what do they know about running the country, it's the same as the bunch in power. They won't be, it's the civil servants that run the country and implement the policies put in place by the government. Plus they want a referendum on immigration. Let the people of this beautiful country decide.

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By *ombikerMan 3 weeks ago

the right side of the river


"Sorry. Thought it was a national erection thread."

I think that would be more accurate as they are all a shower of pricks ha ha

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By *irdnBorisMan 3 weeks ago

meath

I think sinn fein desereves a chance to make a diffrence fianna gael and fianna fail as in failure have been in far too long they have made a whole fuck up of the country eamon ryan another gobshite that made a mess of the country

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By *adbobbilMan 3 weeks ago

Wicklow, Carlow, Wexford, Kilkenny

I'm just gonna spoil my vote

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By *anddswingCouple 3 weeks ago

South Dublin


"For me this time around I'll be voting The Nationalist Alliance. Voted for SF all my life but after they failed as an opposition party, voted for the hate speech, supported lockdowns and flipflop on every major issue. Pearse should have been leader and not Mary Lou.

FF & FG & Greens have ruined this country. 2 yrs of lockdowns & restrictions that destroyed business, missed cancer, people who suffered with mental health were isolated, loved ones left die alone in elderly home. They banned the exploration of oil & gas, blocked lng plant in Tarbert, let way to many people in, spending nearly 3 million a day on people who shouldn't be here, 14k homeless, children's hospital costing billions, waiting list nearly 900k, lack of services for home help and special needs, can't get into see a doctor, cost of living gone through the roof, cost of housing been driven by the rapid population increase, voting for them is more of the same.

PB4P would bankrupt the country, Holly Cairns had a pedo in the party and can't say what a woman is and supported hate speech, along with Labour who forgot that they are supposedly meant to represent the working class, especially since they get a cut of the union membership paid by the workers.

So for the First time every I'll vote for the right. People who say they will put the Irish people first, who will deported people who shouldn't be here, who will put a cap on immigration, look to bring our own home from abroad, make sure our own are housed first and homes are actually affordable in this country, they are willing to give the green light for exploration of oil and gas, increase our fishing fleets, protect our agricultural and stop the sex education going into schools for kids under 5th year. And before people start mouthing off about what do they know about running the country, it's the same as the bunch in power. They won't be, it's the civil servants that run the country and implement the policies put in place by the government. Plus they want a referendum on immigration. Let the people of this beautiful country decide."

Well said—everything here is factual and unbiased. Sinn Féin? A disaster, and anything left-wing is just as bad unless you’re on the dole and living in provided accommodation. Voting for the right, as outlined, is the only sensible choice. Fine Gael isn’t for me, the Greens are completely out of touch, and anyone who hasn’t been impacted by their absurd ideology is just lucky.

If Fianna Fáil got rid of Micheál Martin and found a strong, principled leader, they’d get my vote. Voting independent doesn’t make much sense either; they can’t come together to make a real impact, so there’s no chance for genuine change. Another thing to consider—there’s been no true opposition in the last five years, which is disappointing. Ireland has become a nation of submissive conformists. Interesting times, indeed.

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By *appyPandaMan 3 weeks ago

Kilkenny, but Dublin is more fun

Left based but with a focus on green, as they at least seem to understand the true risks facing our current civilisation and consequences of a society based on large business interests, the delusion of eternal growth on a finite planet and massive energy and resource use that's ever increasing.

Our corrupted political and financial system is failing to address climate change, pollution and ecological degradation which are going to be major factors in the likely collapse of industrial civilisation as we know it before 2100, and while Ireland is a tiny player and has no chance of stopping it, we need people that understand the risks and who can plan ahead instead of being utterly deluded in thinking the world that we have normalised based on economic models is all there is and all that there ever will be. It's only really arisen in living memory so how can we possibly expect it to be ever present? Complex civilisation is dependent on a bedrock of norms that are quickly changing and deteriorating, and as they change more and more, the system built on top of them is going to wobble and shake much more til eventually it may just fall apart.

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By *adger BrocMan 3 weeks ago

Co. Cork

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By *aseylee324Couple 3 weeks ago

Valley of Squinting Windows

I'm voting for Kamala

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By *adger BrocMan 3 weeks ago

Co. Cork


"I'm voting for Kamala"

She would be very welcome in my constituency....

Definitely give her a No1.

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By *arbieandbaldyCouple 3 weeks ago

Dublin, Liverpool

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By *arbieandbaldyCouple 3 weeks ago

Dublin, Liverpool


"Left based but with a focus on green, as they at least seem to understand the true risks facing our current civilisation and consequences of a society based on large business interests, the delusion of eternal growth on a finite planet and massive energy and resource use that's ever increasing.

Our corrupted political and financial system is failing to address climate change, pollution and ecological degradation which are going to be major factors in the likely collapse of industrial civilisation as we know it before 2100, and while Ireland is a tiny player and has no chance of stopping it, we need people that understand the risks and who can plan ahead instead of being utterly deluded in thinking the world that we have normalised based on economic models is all there is and all that there ever will be. It's only really arisen in living memory so how can we possibly expect it to be ever present? Complex civilisation is dependent on a bedrock of norms that are quickly changing and deteriorating, and as they change more and more, the system built on top of them is going to wobble and shake much more til eventually it may just fall apart."

You do realise we as a nation we are one of the most heavily taxed when it comes to carbon taxes, yet produce little to nothing on the world stage. It's in & around 0.01% of the world's carbon, which carbon itself only makes up 0.04% of the atmosphere. So that the equivalent of a grain of sand on O'Connell. Now as a country we have a smaller population that most capital cities around the world. Yet we got nut jobs in the greens that think we can tax our way out of this, but at the sametime we have china building coal powerstations, India that's also at it. Plus people believe we can go net 0 carbon, if we do all life dies on the planet. Right now we are in the green zone. The planet itself has never been greener.

Away from the climate. The greens went away and invited the world to Ireland in the middle of a housing crisis, healthcare, doctor shortages, lack of services for the vulnerable and have cost the taxpayers billions in the process of this. The new leader has had over 200 kids go missing, over 50 dies in state care. So voting for the greens is like trying wipe your ass with sandpaper and not expecting it to bleed.

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By *arbieandbaldyCouple 3 weeks ago

Dublin, Liverpool


"For me this time around I'll be voting The Nationalist Alliance. Voted for SF all my life but after they failed as an opposition party, voted for the hate speech, supported lockdowns and flipflop on every major issue. Pearse should have been leader and not Mary Lou.

FF & FG & Greens have ruined this country. 2 yrs of lockdowns & restrictions that destroyed business, missed cancer, people who suffered with mental health were isolated, loved ones left die alone in elderly home. They banned the exploration of oil & gas, blocked lng plant in Tarbert, let way to many people in, spending nearly 3 million a day on people who shouldn't be here, 14k homeless, children's hospital costing billions, waiting list nearly 900k, lack of services for home help and special needs, can't get into see a doctor, cost of living gone through the roof, cost of housing been driven by the rapid population increase, voting for them is more of the same.

PB4P would bankrupt the country, Holly Cairns had a pedo in the party and can't say what a woman is and supported hate speech, along with Labour who forgot that they are supposedly meant to represent the working class, especially since they get a cut of the union membership paid by the workers.

So for the First time every I'll vote for the right. People who say they will put the Irish people first, who will deported people who shouldn't be here, who will put a cap on immigration, look to bring our own home from abroad, make sure our own are housed first and homes are actually affordable in this country, they are willing to give the green light for exploration of oil and gas, increase our fishing fleets, protect our agricultural and stop the sex education going into schools for kids under 5th year. And before people start mouthing off about what do they know about running the country, it's the same as the bunch in power. They won't be, it's the civil servants that run the country and implement the policies put in place by the government. Plus they want a referendum on immigration. Let the people of this beautiful country decide.

Well said—everything here is factual and unbiased. Sinn Féin? A disaster, and anything left-wing is just as bad unless you’re on the dole and living in provided accommodation. Voting for the right, as outlined, is the only sensible choice. Fine Gael isn’t for me, the Greens are completely out of touch, and anyone who hasn’t been impacted by their absurd ideology is just lucky.

If Fianna Fáil got rid of Micheál Martin and found a strong, principled leader, they’d get my vote. Voting independent doesn’t make much sense either; they can’t come together to make a real impact, so there’s no chance for genuine change. Another thing to consider—there’s been no true opposition in the last five years, which is disappointing. Ireland has become a nation of submissive conformists. Interesting times, indeed."

Well this is another think we can agree on a drink maybe in order

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By *oxminxCouple 3 weeks ago

NaughtyVille *×* Laois

The leaflets are beginning to pile up here...

Seems they have all focused on the same top 20/30 issues but not one candidate/party has outlined how they can execute their plan to fix 1.

Personally, I'm hoping and wishing for politicians to recognise that we need to dramatically increase our spend on the security of our state, eradicate illegal entry into the Republic via the North.

Yes, I'm more than happy to contribute a sizable increase in tax to pay for the security of my country!

Get our heads out of the clouds and have a referendum on our neutrality.

Take our place as participants in Nato defence.

Realise we need to dramatically invest to protect our own airspace and seas with a modern, well funded & equipped force.

I regularly drive the N7 by Baldonnell and look in pity at what aircraft our Air Corp are flying. It's nothing short of pathetic.

Bottom line, we are sitting ducks with a dependency on other states whom will be nowhere to be found should the shi hit the fan.

Threat of hostile advancement would appear to be the new norm and threat to vulnerable and strategic states.

Don't want to get started on energy but IMO nuclear has to be the future and the sooner we get our heads out of the sand the better. It will take 15 to 20 years to even get one funded, planned and built.

Imagine I'd not get the popular vote on a lot above but we appear to have become a nation who are more concerned about what we are getting back into our pockets today, than what we need to do to protect our futures.

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By *icklish_WarriorMan 3 weeks ago

Raheny

Maybe a mix of SD and SF. We need a change and FFFG have had their day.

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By *ionycusMan 3 weeks ago

Babylon

It's unfortunate that the choices are so bad , and that the fear of the unknown causes people to choose the same bunch of assholes each time.

These coalitions are just more of the same.

It's a great country to visit but living in , not so good, no value for your tax.

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By *og-Man OP   Man 3 weeks ago

somewhere

Feckin posters up everywhere already ...hate them

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By *ildarekinkstersCouple 3 weeks ago

kinkytown


"Feckin posters up everywhere already ...hate them "

Don't think they're meant to be up already. Dail wasn't dissolved was it?

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By *og-Man OP   Man 3 weeks ago

somewhere


"Feckin posters up everywhere already ...hate them

Don't think they're meant to be up already. Dail wasn't dissolved was it? "

They went up over the last few days but legally can be up since midnight last night

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By *agic mike1Man 3 weeks ago

around

Does it really matter who gets in??

Nothing will change!!

Look at the USC??

Get rid of that and I'll be happy

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By *ildarekinkstersCouple 3 weeks ago

kinkytown


"Feckin posters up everywhere already ...hate them

Don't think they're meant to be up already. Dail wasn't dissolved was it?

They went up over the last few days but legally can be up since midnight last night "

Seen plenty before that though

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By *og-Man OP   Man 3 weeks ago

somewhere


"Feckin posters up everywhere already ...hate them

Don't think they're meant to be up already. Dail wasn't dissolved was it?

They went up over the last few days but legally can be up since midnight last night

Seen plenty before that though"

With the little stickers advertising coffee mornings

I saw one with a discussion on women in sport advertised

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By *ildarekinkstersCouple 3 weeks ago

kinkytown


"Feckin posters up everywhere already ...hate them

Don't think they're meant to be up already. Dail wasn't dissolved was it?

They went up over the last few days but legally can be up since midnight last night

Seen plenty before that though

With the little stickers advertising coffee mornings

I saw one with a discussion on women in sport advertised

"

Sneaky pricks

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By *ay_Gatsby_D4Man 3 weeks ago

City Centre, Dublin


"The leaflets are beginning to pile up here...

Seems they have all focused on the same top 20/30 issues but not one candidate/party has outlined how they can execute their plan to fix 1.

Personally, I'm hoping and wishing for politicians to recognise that we need to dramatically increase our spend on the security of our state, eradicate illegal entry into the Republic via the North.

Yes, I'm more than happy to contribute a sizable increase in tax to pay for the security of my country!

Get our heads out of the clouds and have a referendum on our neutrality.

Take our place as participants in Nato defence.

Realise we need to dramatically invest to protect our own airspace and seas with a modern, well funded & equipped force.

I regularly drive the N7 by Baldonnell and look in pity at what aircraft our Air Corp are flying. It's nothing short of pathetic.

Bottom line, we are sitting ducks with a dependency on other states whom will be nowhere to be found should the shi hit the fan.

Threat of hostile advancement would appear to be the new norm and threat to vulnerable and strategic states.

Don't want to get started on energy but IMO nuclear has to be the future and the sooner we get our heads out of the sand the better. It will take 15 to 20 years to even get one funded, planned and built.

Imagine I'd not get the popular vote on a lot above but we appear to have become a nation who are more concerned about what we are getting back into our pockets today, than what we need to do to protect our futures."

Are we living in the same country?

What is this absolute madness

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By *nickers pants guyMan 3 weeks ago

Cork killkenny laois Limerick Offaly kildare carlow Dublin Waterford and everywhere else

Lowry for Taoiseach up Tipp up riding

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By *ind PaddyMan 3 weeks ago

South County Dublin

Thank God it is only for 3 week. Then 6 months to pick a government.

Use your Vote wisely.

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By *adger BrocMan 3 weeks ago

Co. Cork


"Lowry for Taoiseach up Tipp up riding "

.....

Tipps answer to Trump...🍊

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By *xstevenxxMan 3 weeks ago

Ashbourne

I think the independents might do well

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By *ushin realityCouple 3 weeks ago

swords

I honestly have no faith in any party ,I will vote independent or a good aul right wing party.Im sick to the teeth of wokey left.They have ruined this country. Had a Labour candidate at door who had no answers to many of my questions 🤔 🙄 or didn't want to answer as he was afraid, ridiculous

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By *og-Man OP   Man 3 weeks ago

somewhere


"I honestly have no faith in any party ,I will vote independent or a good aul right wing party.Im sick to the teeth of wokey left.They have ruined this country. Had a Labour candidate at door who had no answers to many of my questions 🤔 🙄 or didn't want to answer as he was afraid, ridiculous "

Me and you sitting up drinking this night in 3 weeks watching telly

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By *ermbiMan 3 weeks ago

Ballyshannon

Independents equals parochial politics with no eye on the national agenda. Waste of vote in my opinion. When you look at Trump and how he is going to wield the entire American political agenda for the next four years we must consider ourselves fortunate not to have that kevel if incompetency. Politicians are not perfect but way way better than Trump.

They're eating the dogs....

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By *ettaManMan 3 weeks ago

Kerry and Dublin

I really can't decide. Every party has a deal breaker for me.

I'm thinking more along the lines of who would be good to have as a strong opposition.

AN SF/FF/Áontú coalition is the best I can imagine, where each one keeps the other in check on certain issues.

Never gonna happen but would that be as close to a centre left government as we could get?

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By *adger BrocMan 3 weeks ago

Co. Cork


"Independents equals parochial politics with no eye on the national agenda. Waste of vote in my opinion. When you look at Trump and how he is going to wield the entire American political agenda for the next four years we must consider ourselves fortunate not to have that kevel if incompetency. Politicians are not perfect but way way better than Trump.

They're eating the dogs.... "

.....

Irish version

They're ateing the spuds............🥔

There're ateing the cabbage......🥬

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By *eralt80Man 3 weeks ago

cork

One thing I’ve noticed is there are a lot of familiar faces from the recent local elections running for this current general election. Does this mean we could have another local by election if these councillors are elected TDs

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By *adger BrocMan 3 weeks ago

Co. Cork

My understanding is that if a sitting local councillor is elected as a TD they resign their local authority seat and they nominate a person to be co-opted onto the local council as their replacement.

No local by-election happens.

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By *arcus102Man 3 weeks ago

Navan

The Circus starts again . They promise everything and when they get in look after themselves and feck the people that voted them in as their pension and big houses is the end game. I lost faith in it .

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By *affa31Woman 3 weeks ago

Galway


"I really can't decide. Every party has a deal breaker for me.

I'm thinking more along the lines of who would be good to have as a strong opposition.

AN SF/FF/Áontú coalition is the best I can imagine, where each one keeps the other in check on certain issues.

Never gonna happen but would that be as close to a centre left government as we could get?"

Áontú??? Seriously??? A party who value the life of a foetus over the life of a woman?

How the hell would the inclusion of Áontú make that centre left? They are fully conservative.

Christ.

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By *habMan 3 weeks ago

Boomtown


"Independents equals parochial politics with no eye on the national agenda. Waste of vote in my opinion. When you look at Trump and how he is going to wield the entire American political agenda for the next four years we must consider ourselves fortunate not to have that kevel if incompetency. Politicians are not perfect but way way better than Trump.

They're eating the dogs.... "

Ballyshannon....Let's see how the MICA canadates get on.

What about all those ex GAA players who now find themselves running for a main stream party

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By *oo32Man 3 weeks ago

tipperary


"I really can't decide. Every party has a deal breaker for me.

I'm thinking more along the lines of who would be good to have as a strong opposition.

AN SF/FF/Áontú coalition is the best I can imagine, where each one keeps the other in check on certain issues.

Never gonna happen but would that be as close to a centre left government as we could get?

Áontú??? Seriously??? A party who value the life of a foetus over the life of a woman?

How the hell would the inclusion of Áontú make that centre left? They are fully conservative.

Christ. "

The founder of aontu would describe them as being centre left

Everyone else would describe them as something else...

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By *ettaManMan 3 weeks ago

Kerry and Dublin


"

Áontú??? Seriously??? A party who value the life of a foetus over the life of a woman?

How the hell would the inclusion of Áontú make that centre left? They are fully conservative.

Christ. "

Áontú would be the most junior party in that (imaginary) coalition, so there would be no real concern about them being able to do anything about abortion.

They were the only real opposition on issues like gender ideology, the hate speech bill, and the referendums, so they could constrain a government in those issues.

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By *affa31Woman 3 weeks ago

Galway


"

Áontú??? Seriously??? A party who value the life of a foetus over the life of a woman?

How the hell would the inclusion of Áontú make that centre left? They are fully conservative.

Christ.

Áontú would be the most junior party in that (imaginary) coalition, so there would be no real concern about them being able to do anything about abortion.

They were the only real opposition on issues like gender ideology, the hate speech bill, and the referendums, so they could constrain a government in those issues."

I don’t care if they wouldn’t be able to do anything in practice, I don’t want people who think that my life is worth less than a foetus anywhere near government.

According to their website, they don’t think anyone who is “pro life” should be running for ff/fg/sf/labour etc etc so thankfully it’s not a prospect.

After what’s happened in America, it’s more important than ever to have a government who are in favour of people having autonomy over their own bodies.

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By *rutus83Man 3 weeks ago

naas


"

Áontú??? Seriously??? A party who value the life of a foetus over the life of a woman?

How the hell would the inclusion of Áontú make that centre left? They are fully conservative.

Christ.

Áontú would be the most junior party in that (imaginary) coalition, so there would be no real concern about them being able to do anything about abortion.

They were the only real opposition on issues like gender ideology, the hate speech bill, and the referendums, so they could constrain a government in those issues.

I don’t care if they wouldn’t be able to do anything in practice, I don’t want people who think that my life is worth less than a foetus anywhere near government.

According to their website, they don’t think anyone who is “pro life” should be running for ff/fg/sf/labour etc etc so thankfully it’s not a prospect.

After what’s happened in America, it’s more important than ever to have a government who are in favour of people having autonomy over their own bodies. "

I fail to see how it's more important than ever after what happened in American ? Surely the topic is not effected regardless of what happens in America.

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By *affa31Woman 3 weeks ago

Galway


"

Áontú??? Seriously??? A party who value the life of a foetus over the life of a woman?

How the hell would the inclusion of Áontú make that centre left? They are fully conservative.

Christ.

Áontú would be the most junior party in that (imaginary) coalition, so there would be no real concern about them being able to do anything about abortion.

They were the only real opposition on issues like gender ideology, the hate speech bill, and the referendums, so they could constrain a government in those issues.

I don’t care if they wouldn’t be able to do anything in practice, I don’t want people who think that my life is worth less than a foetus anywhere near government.

According to their website, they don’t think anyone who is “pro life” should be running for ff/fg/sf/labour etc etc so thankfully it’s not a prospect.

After what’s happened in America, it’s more important than ever to have a government who are in favour of people having autonomy over their own bodies.

I fail to see how it's more important than ever after what happened in American ? Surely the topic is not effected regardless of what happens in America. "

Ever heard the phrase America sneezes and the world catches a cold?

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By *rishvisitorMan 3 weeks ago

Dublin

I, for one, am looking forward to the traditional 'who are the hottest candidates?' thread.

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By *rutus83Man 3 weeks ago

naas


"

Áontú??? Seriously??? A party who value the life of a foetus over the life of a woman?

How the hell would the inclusion of Áontú make that centre left? They are fully conservative.

Christ.

Áontú would be the most junior party in that (imaginary) coalition, so there would be no real concern about them being able to do anything about abortion.

They were the only real opposition on issues like gender ideology, the hate speech bill, and the referendums, so they could constrain a government in those issues.

I don’t care if they wouldn’t be able to do anything in practice, I don’t want people who think that my life is worth less than a foetus anywhere near government.

According to their website, they don’t think anyone who is “pro life” should be running for ff/fg/sf/labour etc etc so thankfully it’s not a prospect.

After what’s happened in America, it’s more important than ever to have a government who are in favour of people having autonomy over their own bodies.

I fail to see how it's more important than ever after what happened in American ? Surely the topic is not effected regardless of what happens in America.

Ever heard the phrase America sneezes and the world catches a cold?"

Nope that's a first to be honest. But is the topic of abortion not on a state level and not a presidential level ?

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By *inkywife1981Couple 3 weeks ago

A town near you

Il put my money on a FF/FG coalition

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By *affa31Woman 3 weeks ago

Galway


"

Áontú??? Seriously??? A party who value the life of a foetus over the life of a woman?

How the hell would the inclusion of Áontú make that centre left? They are fully conservative.

Christ.

Áontú would be the most junior party in that (imaginary) coalition, so there would be no real concern about them being able to do anything about abortion.

They were the only real opposition on issues like gender ideology, the hate speech bill, and the referendums, so they could constrain a government in those issues.

I don’t care if they wouldn’t be able to do anything in practice, I don’t want people who think that my life is worth less than a foetus anywhere near government.

According to their website, they don’t think anyone who is “pro life” should be running for ff/fg/sf/labour etc etc so thankfully it’s not a prospect.

After what’s happened in America, it’s more important than ever to have a government who are in favour of people having autonomy over their own bodies.

I fail to see how it's more important than ever after what happened in American ? Surely the topic is not effected regardless of what happens in America.

Ever heard the phrase America sneezes and the world catches a cold?

Nope that's a first to be honest. But is the topic of abortion not on a state level and not a presidential level ? "

POTUS appoints judges to the Supreme Court. It was the Supreme Court who overturned Roe v Wade, paving the way for states to bring in abortion bans.

“Pro life” groups in America pump money into the likes of Áontú here.

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By *rutus83Man 3 weeks ago

naas


"

Áontú??? Seriously??? A party who value the life of a foetus over the life of a woman?

How the hell would the inclusion of Áontú make that centre left? They are fully conservative.

Christ.

Áontú would be the most junior party in that (imaginary) coalition, so there would be no real concern about them being able to do anything about abortion.

They were the only real opposition on issues like gender ideology, the hate speech bill, and the referendums, so they could constrain a government in those issues.

I don’t care if they wouldn’t be able to do anything in practice, I don’t want people who think that my life is worth less than a foetus anywhere near government.

According to their website, they don’t think anyone who is “pro life” should be running for ff/fg/sf/labour etc etc so thankfully it’s not a prospect.

After what’s happened in America, it’s more important than ever to have a government who are in favour of people having autonomy over their own bodies.

I fail to see how it's more important than ever after what happened in American ? Surely the topic is not effected regardless of what happens in America.

Ever heard the phrase America sneezes and the world catches a cold?

Nope that's a first to be honest. But is the topic of abortion not on a state level and not a presidential level ?

POTUS appoints judges to the Supreme Court. It was the Supreme Court who overturned Roe v Wade, paving the way for states to bring in abortion bans.

“Pro life” groups in America pump money into the likes of Áontú here. "

I get that but isn't it better it's down to the states to decide what they want thou ?

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By *ettaManMan 3 weeks ago

Kerry and Dublin


"

I don’t care if they wouldn’t be able to do anything in practice, I don’t want people who think that my life is worth less than a foetus anywhere near government.

According to their website, they don’t think anyone who is “pro life” should be running for ff/fg/sf/labour etc etc so thankfully it’s not a prospect.

After what’s happened in America, it’s more important than ever to have a government who are in favour of people having autonomy over their own bodies. "

That's why it's important that they wouldn't be able to actually enact any legislation. That's my deal breaker with them.

I don't actually know many of their other policies (presumably more closely aligned with SF) but the "fact" that they would have very little power means they wouldn't get things like abortion legislation as part of a programme for government.

So, while SF and FF would keep them in check in that regard, they could keep the others in check with regard to those other issues.

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By *ettaManMan 3 weeks ago

Kerry and Dublin


"Il put my money on a FF/FG coalition "

That would be the most likely, but 18 FG TDs not standing could affect them.

I wouldn't be massively surprised if no government is formed and we have to go back to the polls.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan 3 weeks ago

Tipperary

No matter who gets in, it will be much of the same. SF say a lot of good stuff but I don’t think have near the right mentality or economics to run a country properly. They want to give give give all the time but there has to be a balance struck.

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By *he KakapoMan 3 weeks ago

A nice rock


"

I get that but isn't it better it's down to the states to decide what they want thou ? "

I mean personally I think when it endangers a women's life then probably not when someone else living in the same country, but in a different state does have access to the life saving medical care.

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By *ushin realityCouple 3 weeks ago

swords


"I honestly have no faith in any party ,I will vote independent or a good aul right wing party.Im sick to the teeth of wokey left.They have ruined this country. Had a Labour candidate at door who had no answers to many of my questions 🤔 🙄 or didn't want to answer as he was afraid, ridiculous

Me and you sitting up drinking this night in 3 weeks watching telly "

Well I stayed up all🤣🤣🤣🤣 night for American elections

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By *ildatlanticMan 3 weeks ago

city

100 years of fine fail and fine everyone Gael is more then enough. We need a new city with inbuilt infrastructure. The dart was the last decent transport built in this country and that’s 40 Feckin years ago!

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By *ettaManMan 3 weeks ago

Kerry and Dublin

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https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/elections-2024/votesmart/votesmart-take-our-election-test-to-find-out-which-parties-and-politicians-align-with-your-views/a1537193874.html#/kerry/results

Interestingly:

Áontú 63%

FF 61%

SF 47%

No question on reproductive rights though, which would have knocked me down for Áontú.

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By *rish PDI ReprobatesCouple 2 weeks ago

Holiday to Gran Canaria

Irish PDI Reprobates-Department of Tourism

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By *ewAndFarMan 2 weeks ago

Old.....

I don't buy into the left and right here. It's somewhat of a new phenomenon. I can't see any party being extreme right.

It's a pity we can't bite for an individual, and then a group of individuals come together to form a government. They'll have to compromise and sacrifice, but at least they'll have a debate and vote . Currently we have nothing short of a cartel.

I'm from the border and have always been Sinn Fein, but this isn't Sinn Fein as we know it. She's a cretin and is no better than Micheál, Leo, Simon and the rest of them.

Voting Sinn Fein before the rest are shit doesn't leave much hope.

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By *ewAndFarMan 2 weeks ago

Old.....


"I don't buy into the left and right here. It's somewhat of a new phenomenon. I can't see any party being extreme right.

It's a pity we can't bite for an individual, and then a group of individuals come together to form a government. They'll have to compromise and sacrifice, but at least they'll have a debate and vote . Currently we have nothing short of a cartel.

I'm from the border and have always been Sinn Fein, but this isn't Sinn Fein as we know it. She's a cretin and is no better than Micheál, Leo, Simon and the rest of them.

Voting Sinn Fein before the rest are shit doesn't leave much hope. "

*Vote not bite

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By *dfabMan 2 weeks ago

Dunboyne

Tired of d political parties. Considering SF and greens now

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By *iamond_AligoCouple 2 weeks ago

letterkenny

You need the ying Yang in politics,,one Hundred years ofconservative right/ central right party's

We need a good coalition or left centre Left to shake things up for five years Education, Health, public Transport would see great spending , Money would simply come from quangos and that apple billions.

This election will be different because the left have a chance

I always said, just watch big businesses and the establishment get involved in this election on the establishments /governments behalf, IE Irish times Dennis O'Brien etc And up steps Michael O'Leary and puts his foot in his big mouth 🤣🤣

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By *iamond_AligoCouple 2 weeks ago

letterkenny


"Anyone but ff, fg, the greens and any far right scum. I know it'll end up being ff or fg or both as we Irish love the auld misery.

What's the alternative?

Rural Ireland needs to be shut down most are farmers the only ideology they have is money and greed we produce ten times more food than we need for export ,Let the farmers go to China or where ever it is they export to and pollute that cobtry

Sinn fein, social democrats, PBP even labour and I hate labour after Joan was leader of them that time.

PBP anti rural, doesnt suit me, labour is a joke, shinners maybe, but would you trust them? No better than ffg imo. "

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By *hanebbwMan 2 weeks ago

b

Vote right

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By *eralt80Man 2 weeks ago

cork

I can’t hear the word manifesto without singing -

What do you think of my manifesto?

I like a manifesto, put it to the test-o

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By *habMan 2 weeks ago

Boomtown

Is this a dejavu moment for fg is the Jo Jo Dullard suspect claims are true or does the truth matter any more

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By *ermbiMan 2 weeks ago

Ballyshannon


"Tired of d political parties. Considering SF and greens now"

SF can't sort their own house out so stay clear. They can't run a country

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By *artanyanMan 2 weeks ago

Baldoyle

SF No.1

FF 3rd last

FG 2nd last

NP or whatever variation there is of them last

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By *iamond_AligoCouple 2 weeks ago

letterkenny


"For me this time around I'll be voting The Nationalist Alliance. Voted for SF all my life but after they failed as an opposition party, voted for the hate speech, supported lockdowns and flipflop on every major issue. Pearse should have been leader and not Mary Lou.

FF & FG & Greens have ruined this country. 2 yrs of lockdowns & restrictions that destroyed business, missed cancer, people who suffered with mental health were isolated, loved ones left die alone in elderly home. They banned the exploration of oil & gas, blocked lng plant in Tarbert, let way to many people in, spending nearly 3 million a day on people who shouldn't be here, 14k homeless, children's hospital costing billions, waiting list nearly 900k, lack of services for home help and special needs, can't get into see a doctor, cost of living gone through the roof, cost of housing been driven by the rapid population increase, voting for them is more of the same.

PB4P would bankrupt the country, Holly Cairns had a pedo in the party and can't say what a woman is and supported hate speech, along with Labour who forgot that they are supposedly meant to represent the working class, especially since they get a cut of the union membership paid by the workers.

So for the First time every I'll vote for the right. People who say they will put the Irish people first, who will deported people who shouldn't be here, who will put a cap on immigration, look to bring our own home from abroad, make sure our own are housed first and homes are actually affordable in this country, they are willing to give the green light for exploration of oil and gas, increase our fishing fleets, protect our agricultural and stop the sex education going into schools for kids under 5th year. And before people start mouthing off about what do they know about running the country, it's the same as the bunch in power. They won't be, it's the civil servants that run the country and implement the policies put in place by the government. Plus they want a referendum on immigration. Let the people of this beautiful country decide.

Well said—everything here is factual and unbiased. Sinn Féin? A disaster, and anything left-wing is just as bad unless you’re on the dole and living in provided accommodation. Voting for the right, as outlined, is the only sensible choice. Fine Gael isn’t for me, the Greens are completely out of touch, and anyone who hasn’t been impacted by their absurd ideology is just lucky.

If Fianna Fáil got rid of Micheál Martin and found a strong, principled leader, they’d get my vote. Voting independent doesn’t make much sense either; they can’t come together to make a real impact, so there’s no chance for genuine change. Another thing to consider—there’s been no true opposition in the last five years, which is disappointing. Ireland has become a nation of submissive conformists. Interesting times, indeed."

You two need to vote for a rural alliance and spread some of that dung you wrote god I love my jokes

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By *arbieandbaldyCouple 2 weeks ago

Dublin, Liverpool


"For me this time around I'll be voting The Nationalist Alliance. Voted for SF all my life but after they failed as an opposition party, voted for the hate speech, supported lockdowns and flipflop on every major issue. Pearse should have been leader and not Mary Lou.

FF & FG & Greens have ruined this country. 2 yrs of lockdowns & restrictions that destroyed business, missed cancer, people who suffered with mental health were isolated, loved ones left die alone in elderly home. They banned the exploration of oil & gas, blocked lng plant in Tarbert, let way to many people in, spending nearly 3 million a day on people who shouldn't be here, 14k homeless, children's hospital costing billions, waiting list nearly 900k, lack of services for home help and special needs, can't get into see a doctor, cost of living gone through the roof, cost of housing been driven by the rapid population increase, voting for them is more of the same.

PB4P would bankrupt the country, Holly Cairns had a pedo in the party and can't say what a woman is and supported hate speech, along with Labour who forgot that they are supposedly meant to represent the working class, especially since they get a cut of the union membership paid by the workers.

So for the First time every I'll vote for the right. People who say they will put the Irish people first, who will deported people who shouldn't be here, who will put a cap on immigration, look to bring our own home from abroad, make sure our own are housed first and homes are actually affordable in this country, they are willing to give the green light for exploration of oil and gas, increase our fishing fleets, protect our agricultural and stop the sex education going into schools for kids under 5th year. And before people start mouthing off about what do they know about running the country, it's the same as the bunch in power. They won't be, it's the civil servants that run the country and implement the policies put in place by the government. Plus they want a referendum on immigration. Let the people of this beautiful country decide.

Well said—everything here is factual and unbiased. Sinn Féin? A disaster, and anything left-wing is just as bad unless you’re on the dole and living in provided accommodation. Voting for the right, as outlined, is the only sensible choice. Fine Gael isn’t for me, the Greens are completely out of touch, and anyone who hasn’t been impacted by their absurd ideology is just lucky.

If Fianna Fáil got rid of Micheál Martin and found a strong, principled leader, they’d get my vote. Voting independent doesn’t make much sense either; they can’t come together to make a real impact, so there’s no chance for genuine change. Another thing to consider—there’s been no true opposition in the last five years, which is disappointing. Ireland has become a nation of submissive conformists. Interesting times, indeed.

You two need to vote for a rural alliance and spread some of that dung you wrote god I love my jokes "

Nothing wrong with what i posted. You might not like the truth or you have your head buried up you're own arse for the past 4yrs but these cunts in power are destroying this lovely country of ours. We have a handful of tds that acts as opposition but the rest are on board with what I posted above.

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By *ancy38Woman 2 weeks ago

galway


"Tired of d political parties. Considering SF and greens now

SF can't sort their own house out so stay clear. They can't run a country"

FF and FG can't really run it either tbh with the way the country is today.

When the election does come around and is finished, it's going to be the same old Paddy wackery voting these clowns in whereas we need to take a chance with the other parties. Surely it can't get any worse than what the country is like now. We are in dire need of big changes and that won't happen with FF and FG in power.

With that said, it's going to be the same old same old s d the people of this country will suffer greatly while these politicians line there own pockets.

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By *arbieandbaldyCouple 2 weeks ago

Dublin, Liverpool


"Il put my money on a FF/FG coalition

That would be the most likely, but 18 FG TDs not standing could affect them.

I wouldn't be massively surprised if no government is formed and we have to go back to the polls."

I think this is a major possibility. We could end up with another election in the new year.

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By *orthsouth4957Couple 2 weeks ago

Telford


"For me this time around I'll be voting The Nationalist Alliance. Voted for SF all my life but after they failed as an opposition party, voted for the hate speech, supported lockdowns and flipflop on every major issue. Pearse should have been leader and not Mary Lou.

FF & FG & Greens have ruined this country. 2 yrs of lockdowns & restrictions that destroyed business, missed cancer, people who suffered with mental health were isolated, loved ones left die alone in elderly home. They banned the exploration of oil & gas, blocked lng plant in Tarbert, let way to many people in, spending nearly 3 million a day on people who shouldn't be here, 14k homeless, children's hospital costing billions, waiting list nearly 900k, lack of services for home help and special needs, can't get into see a doctor, cost of living gone through the roof, cost of housing been driven by the rapid population increase, voting for them is more of the same.

PB4P would bankrupt the country, Holly Cairns had a pedo in the party and can't say what a woman is and supported hate speech, along with Labour who forgot that they are supposedly meant to represent the working class, especially since they get a cut of the union membership paid by the workers.

So for the First time every I'll vote for the right. People who say they will put the Irish people first, who will deported people who shouldn't be here, who will put a cap on immigration, look to bring our own home from abroad, make sure our own are housed first and homes are actually affordable in this country, they are willing to give the green light for exploration of oil and gas, increase our fishing fleets, protect our agricultural and stop the sex education going into schools for kids under 5th year. And before people start mouthing off about what do they know about running the country, it's the same as the bunch in power. They won't be, it's the civil servants that run the country and implement the policies put in place by the government. Plus they want a referendum on immigration. Let the people of this beautiful country decide."

Well said and very well put. Could not have said it better. This government voted away our right to control our own boarders to the EU, that was done a few months ago and then a few weeks ago the voted in a new laws ro suppress free speech, VP elect JD Vance has already wrote to the Irish ambassador to the US to say he is not happy with the new laws and the attack on free speech, centre right for me. We have such a small choice but FG and FF are cock sure the are getting back into government and that came from a prominent FG person. I hope for Ireland the don't

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By *ildarekinkstersCouple 2 weeks ago

kinkytown


"SF No.1

FF 3rd last

FG 2nd last

NP or whatever variation there is of them last "

I wouldn't even put a number the box for the likes of the NP. A friend who worked in the count center last general election told me to just put numbers in the ones you want in as otherwise the vote is counted on the next count. For example your number one gets in on the count, the ballot sheet is counted for your number 2 on the next. Unsub on various social media outlets explains it better than I could.

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By *og-Man OP   Man 2 weeks ago

somewhere

Absolutely stop on the ballot paper once I've marked up 2 or 3 that I'd hope to get in and leave it at that

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By *ildarekinkstersCouple 2 weeks ago

kinkytown


"Absolutely stop on the ballot paper once I've marked up 2 or 3 that I'd hope to get in and leave it at that "

That's the correct way to do it, otherwise you have people getting in on the 14th count who many don't want there *cough* Simon Harris *cough*

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By *bsolute gentMan 2 weeks ago

county Cork


"For me this time around I'll be voting The Nationalist Alliance. Voted for SF all my life but after they failed as an opposition party, voted for the hate speech, supported lockdowns and flipflop on every major issue. Pearse should have been leader and not Mary Lou.

FF & FG & Greens have ruined this country. 2 yrs of lockdowns & restrictions that destroyed business, missed cancer, people who suffered with mental health were isolated, loved ones left die alone in elderly home. They banned the exploration of oil & gas, blocked lng plant in Tarbert, let way to many people in, spending nearly 3 million a day on people who shouldn't be here, 14k homeless, children's hospital costing billions, waiting list nearly 900k, lack of services for home help and special needs, can't get into see a doctor, cost of living gone through the roof, cost of housing been driven by the rapid population increase, voting for them is more of the same.

PB4P would bankrupt the country, Holly Cairns had a pedo in the party and can't say what a woman is and supported hate speech, along with Labour who forgot that they are supposedly meant to represent the working class, especially since they get a cut of the union membership paid by the workers.

So for the First time every I'll vote for the right. People who say they will put the Irish people first, who will deported people who shouldn't be here, who will put a cap on immigration, look to bring our own home from abroad, make sure our own are housed first and homes are actually affordable in this country, they are willing to give the green light for exploration of oil and gas, increase our fishing fleets, protect our agricultural and stop the sex education going into schools for kids under 5th year. And before people start mouthing off about what do they know about running the country, it's the same as the bunch in power. They won't be, it's the civil servants that run the country and implement the policies put in place by the government. Plus they want a referendum on immigration. Let the people of this beautiful country decide.

Well said—everything here is factual and unbiased. Sinn Féin? A disaster, and anything left-wing is just as bad unless you’re on the dole and living in provided accommodation. Voting for the right, as outlined, is the only sensible choice. Fine Gael isn’t for me, the Greens are completely out of touch, and anyone who hasn’t been impacted by their absurd ideology is just lucky.

If Fianna Fáil got rid of Micheál Martin and found a strong, principled leader, they’d get my vote. Voting independent doesn’t make much sense either; they can’t come together to make a real impact, so there’s no chance for genuine change. Another thing to consider—there’s been no true opposition in the last five years, which is disappointing. Ireland has become a nation of submissive conformists. Interesting times, indeed.

Well this is another think we can agree on a drink maybe in order "

Well said...all of the above

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By *adger BrocMan 2 weeks ago

Co. Cork

Let's vote for change. Lets implement some of the untried policies that SF and others are so anxious to to run with. It will be interesting to see if we still end up with a strong economy and full employment after 4 or 5 years of their power trip.

I have my doubts but I will fully support the democratic process and hopefully not have to witness people losing their jobs and the country going into economic decline just to give others a chance to prove that they can't do any better.

The three things a country needs are, a strong economy, a strong economy and a strong economy. Everything else that society needs will be built upon that solid foundation.

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By *risfunMan 2 weeks ago

brisbane

Who just say Micheal martin looking for gerry hutch to show full transparency...A fianna fail celtic tiger minister asking for full transparency must be some kind of joke..

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By *he ChamberCouple 2 weeks ago

Dublin/Midlands

To vote the existing 3 party coalition back in!!!! we deserve everything we get.

Change is healthy staying with the same is toxic

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By *adger BrocMan 2 weeks ago

Co. Cork

Why not empty out Mountjoy, Portlaoise, Limerick and Cork prisons and let them all run for the Dail.....

That's exactly what Ireland needs.......government by "ordinary decent criminals".

Or better still give them day release to work helping to build the housing stock that is so badly needed. One good way for them to pay back their debt to society. (SF might not agree as they already got most of their prisoners released early in exchange for "going away, ya know").

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By *ilderMan 2 weeks ago

dublin


"Absolutely stop on the ballot paper once I've marked up 2 or 3 that I'd hope to get in and leave it at that

That's the correct way to do it, otherwise you have people getting in on the 14th count who many don't want there *cough* Simon Harris *cough*"

There's often about 18 on the ballot where I live in Dublin. I give numbers to the top 15 including the monster raving looneys that never get in and leave off the 3 I don't ever want to (even though some of those often get voted in despite this). The counts havn't gone to 16 yet but if they do at least I've done my best.

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By *ussieGuyInDubMan 2 weeks ago

Docklands

I've been in Ireland for most of my adult life and only started voting in 2020 because I didn't want to vote for anyone which might have been in my interest but not the local people around me. Doing so meant I also researched a lot before casting my first vote and compared ideas and policy against what I have seen elsewhere, so here were some of my thoughts.

SF might be left leaning to focus on people at the centre of their stories, but they are very extreme in nationalism and popularism which is normally only associated with right winged parties in other countries. I also found a lot of inconsistency in where they stood on any individual matter, they just seemed to be anti government; whatever was being pushed forward, they wanted to oppose it. I'd also worry that they might bring that to the world stage and cause tension with other countries.

FF and FG get talked about as being rather left leaning a lot these days, but it seems to be compared to the US rather than the rest of the world. Nearly everyone is very left compared to them, the Democrats are more like a centre right party of 30 years ago and that's why you also see a lot of longtime republicans going democrat in the US as there's been a shift there. FF and FG make policy in a manner which has a business perspective from everything I've seen, with focuses on short term profitability and short term fixes (eg a lot of cost of living has been done as one off payments and have been slowly made smaller, with little to no policy changes to fix the problems, just time for people to adjust expectations that this is what to now expect).

I see a lot of the other parties have a number of good policies, but all having a few which are non-starters for most people. Greens and Labour both seem to have a good focus on people and infrastructure, but come across as idealistic and not having the right support to help everyone get there. I think that it's fear of a big short term pain on people's lives, rather than the many little cuts that keep piling up from the people everyone already knows.

When I see issues arising in immigration and housing, as well as small businesses struggling and closing, I feel like a lot of this is coming from a lot of people feeling squeezed and redirection being made towards other people who are suffering too. There's a lot of wealth in this country, and there's a lot which allows big money to get away with not paying proportionally. I think that some taxes need to go up but rebalance income tax, USC, and benefits so that it evens out or is better for 99% of paye earners, and puts more pressure on those with assets. Lpt and water chargers in the past were good ideas to start trying to work on this, but they didn't bring down the taxing elsewhere, or they didn't make it ineffective financially to sit on an empty house given how much house prices have risen.

I'm not saying anything is easy, it's about people so there's never just one quick and easy solution and it normally requires 100 little fixes instead, but I worry about how arguments are being framed, and having the standard pinned against the US is rather scary IMHO.

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By *ean49Man 2 weeks ago

Limerick

FF/FF are much the same down the years. A clean sweep and get rid of Martin, Harris all bad actors. Shinners will let you down on immigration and power at any price. Look at the North as sold out.

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By *aid backMan 2 weeks ago

by a lake with my rod out

As long as FF FG greens get fucked out I don't really mind. Also any of the far right grifters can get fucked too

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By *artanyanMan 2 weeks ago

Baldoyle

Didn’t realise that at all. I’ll leave off FF FG and whatever NP types there are.


"Absolutely stop on the ballot paper once I've marked up 2 or 3 that I'd hope to get in and leave it at that

That's the correct way to do it, otherwise you have people getting in on the 14th count who many don't want there *cough* Simon Harris *cough*"

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By *artanyanMan 2 weeks ago

Baldoyle

I fundamentally disagree. We’ve had a strong economy for years and ‘everything else that society needs will be built upon that solid foundation’ certainly hasn’t happened. Health, Education, Housing, Law and Order, cost of living etc have all gotten worse due to the policies of FF and FG.

I lived long enough in the states to know that if you let that go unchecked that you end up with a very broken society.

These two have no ideas/ want to change anything and the longer it keeps going the worse it’s gonna get.


"Let's vote for change. Lets implement some of the untried policies that SF and others are so anxious to to run with. It will be interesting to see if we still end up with a strong economy and full employment after 4 or 5 years of their power trip.

I have my doubts but I will fully support the democratic process and hopefully not have to witness people losing their jobs and the country going into economic decline just to give others a chance to prove that they can't do any better.

The three things a country needs are, a strong economy, a strong economy and a strong economy. Everything else that society needs will be built upon that solid foundation.

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By *exyman1965Man 2 weeks ago

Lucan

Definitely not FG ,FF or the Green's we need some new blood new ideas and to get way from same old stuff..

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By *adger BrocMan 2 weeks ago

Co. Cork


"I fundamentally disagree. We’ve had a strong economy for years and ‘everything else that society needs will be built upon that solid foundation’ certainly hasn’t happened. Health, Education, Housing, Law and Order, cost of living etc have all gotten worse due to the policies of FF and FG.

I lived long enough in the states to know that if you let that go unchecked that you end up with a very broken society.

These two have no ideas/ want to change anything and the longer it keeps going the worse it’s gonna get.

Let's vote for change. Lets implement some of the untried policies that SF and others are so anxious to to run with. It will be interesting to see if we still end up with a strong economy and full employment after 4 or 5 years of their power trip.

I have my doubts but I will fully support the democratic process and hopefully not have to witness people losing their jobs and the country going into economic decline just to give others a chance to prove that they can't do any better.

The three things a country needs are, a strong economy, a strong economy and a strong economy. Everything else that society needs will be built upon that solid foundation.

"

We have made consistent progress since the foundation of the state to where we are today. Yes there have been difficult times, mostly caused by outside influences and some mismanagement of our fiscal affairs but in the main we have moved forward and are currently in a strong position to develop a fairer and more equitable society. A bit more centre left , social conscience, influence would help to bring about changes necessary to make Ireland a great place to live for all its citizens and those we welcome to come here from other less fortunate situations.

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