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"Voter Disillusioned by the parochial nature of Irish politics. Disillusioned by both FF and FG, but don't think any other parties are robust challengers. I ll keep an open mind about candidates. " Agreed. It's like a choice of voting for known crap or unknown crap. Reflection on individual candidates is definitely needed | |||
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"There isn't a single politician in the world who is in it for anything other than lining there own pockets " I actually wouldn't even care if this was the case...if they were mildly competent leaders | |||
"There isn't a single politician in the world who is in it for anything other than lining there own pockets " 100% and people who love to stir things, just live and let live everywhere would be a better place 🤷♂️🤗🤗🥰 | |||
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"I will vote for "Centre Left" candidates that I believe will help to maintain a strong economy while bringing about the change necessary to ensure social equality. Democratic government for the people by the people. "Our day has come.....and will continue into the future". 🇮🇪👍💪" Who's the centre left's? | |||
"Looks like they'll announce it this week Are you looking forward to it Do you bother voting Anyone who you think is fucked and won't get back in What do you think of the state of the parties ...who'll be in the next government " I'm hoping Kamala wins   | |||
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"Looks like they'll announce it this week Are you looking forward to it Do you bother voting Anyone who you think is fucked and won't get back in What do you think of the state of the parties ...who'll be in the next government I'm hoping Kamala wins "I really hope so too The thought of that orange baboon as president is just too depressing | |||
"I will vote for "Centre Left" candidates that I believe will help to maintain a strong economy while bringing about the change necessary to ensure social equality. Democratic government for the people by the people. "Our day has come.....and will continue into the future". 🇮🇪👍💪 Who's the centre left's?" ... Labour, the left leaning elements within FF and FG, the non-loony elements within Democratic Left, People Before Profit, The Greens and the non ArmaLite carrying members of SF. | |||
"I will vote for "Centre Left" candidates that I believe will help to maintain a strong economy while bringing about the change necessary to ensure social equality. Democratic government for the people by the people. "Our day has come.....and will continue into the future". 🇮🇪👍💪 Who's the centre left's? ... Labour, the left leaning elements within FF and FG, the non-loony elements within Democratic Left, People Before Profit, The Greens and the non ArmaLite carrying members of SF. " I think there are good candidates from all parties but no good parties. My political leanings would be a long the same lines as Mr. Badgerer | |||
"I will vote for "Centre Left" candidates that I believe will help to maintain a strong economy while bringing about the change necessary to ensure social equality. Democratic government for the people by the people. "Our day has come.....and will continue into the future". 🇮🇪👍💪" Where is the centre now?...We're a very, very Left country as it is. But the moaners in the left keep going further left that it's impossible to please them. We are a huge welfare state, with way too many civil servants, government departments and NGOs all created to buy votes. Taxes raised all the time to pay for it. If FDI slumps we're in serious trouble. Need a solid centre government to tackle the the Right & Left in this country all of whom are propped up by our welfare state. But there is no opposition, so nothing will change! I always vote, but I'm not currently motivated for an election. | |||
"I will vote for "Centre Left" candidates that I believe will help to maintain a strong economy while bringing about the change necessary to ensure social equality. Democratic government for the people by the people. "Our day has come.....and will continue into the future". 🇮🇪👍💪 Where is the centre now?...We're a very, very Left country as it is. But the moaners in the left keep going further left that it's impossible to please them. We are a huge welfare state, with way too many civil servants, government departments and NGOs all created to buy votes. Taxes raised all the time to pay for it. If FDI slumps we're in serious trouble. Need a solid centre government to tackle the the Right & Left in this country all of whom are propped up by our welfare state. But there is no opposition, so nothing will change! I always vote, but I'm not currently motivated for an election." I'm not sure the taxes raised is accurate as we have been increasing rate band and credits consistently over the last few budgets but I agree with all your other points. Im both Ff and Fg are capable of moving towards a more fiscally conservative position if they can break from these populist give away budgets. | |||
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"Looks like they'll announce it this week Are you looking forward to it Do you bother voting Anyone who you think is fucked and won't get back in What do you think of the state of the parties ...who'll be in the next government I'm hoping Kamala wins "So do I god help us if the other fella gets in | |||
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"Vote Gavin Pepper ! Change is slow but it’s coming " That's not the kind of change I want thanks | |||
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"US is divisive on guns, abortion, immigration, gender. Ireland - Bike lanes "300 million spent on bike lanes. How many social houses could have been built. | |||
"US is divisive on guns, abortion, immigration, gender. Ireland - Bike lanes
300 million spent on bike lanes. How many social houses could have been built."Less than 2000 | |||
"US is divisive on guns, abortion, immigration, gender. Ireland - Bike lanes
300 million spent on bike lanes. How many social houses could have been built.
Less than 2000"2000 houses is a lot | |||
"US is divisive on guns, abortion, immigration, gender. Ireland - Bike lanes
300 million spent on bike lanes. How many social houses could have been built.
Less than 2000
2000 houses is a lot"It's still not a coherent policy to solve a crisis. | |||
"Rainbow coalition of Sf Labour sd. 3 is enough. Can't see it happening as sf fecked up. Green wasting money on bike lanes while roads need repairs. Could of spent money on student accommodation. This government wasted a lot of money. Could of used bike lane money to upgrade Ennis a&e. Too many independents." Seriously though, all the things the State wastes money on an your biggest bug bear is bike lanes? If anything, it's a little embarasing that all our cities don't have fully functioning bike lane infrastructure. To me it's a sign of the sort of single mindedness that's always plagued the country! Complete lack of vision. | |||
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"Rainbow coalition of Sf Labour sd. 3 is enough. Can't see it happening as sf fecked up. Green wasting money on bike lanes while roads need repairs. Could of spent money on student accommodation. This government wasted a lot of money. Could of used bike lane money to upgrade Ennis a&e. Too many independents. Seriously though, all the things the State wastes money on an your biggest bug bear is bike lanes? If anything, it's a little embarasing that all our cities don't have fully functioning bike lane infrastructure. To me it's a sign of the sort of single mindedness that's always plagued the country! Complete lack of vision." That was the 1st thing which came to mind. Housing crisis 2500 euro per month rent for one bed apartment which you never own. Hse over crowding in hospital Limerick a&e i think I would drive to Cork then go to Limerick a&e. Not enough support for gp's Immigrates it is a world wide problem. This government has handled it badly. | |||
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"First of all, until about 10 or 15 years ago I automatically avoided SF for ethical reasons/sins of the past. I listened to FFG in particular frequently state that SFs budget manifestos don't add up and would bankrupt the country. And rehash SFs past But as I've gotten older, I hope I've gotten wiser. FFG keep saying what they will do to fix the homelessness crisis, or the rise of the far right, and all the other problems we have, when they have been in government every single time, in some guise, since the formation of the state. Whose policy's have people dying on our streets ? So I now vote SF, every election. And I really hope they get in. It is the only way we will see if FFG are right. So if SF get in, and are as bad as FFG say, then I will re-evaluate. But I won't vote the same FFG, full of landlords, in every election, and expect anything to change. " I feel the same and will vote strategicly against FFG until another party gets a craic of the whip. They have failed. | |||
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"I ll never vote SF, for all the blood on their hands and v low moral barometer. Just couldn't do it. Labour and greens are both ineffective. Independents tends to be parachial. FF/FG stale. We desperately need fresh ideas and characters. " Interesting, what blood have they got on their hands? | |||
"I ll never vote SF, for all the blood on their hands and v low moral barometer. Just couldn't do it. Labour and greens are both ineffective. Independents tends to be parachial. FF/FG stale. We desperately need fresh ideas and characters. " Same as that on SF. I also think they're useless. They've shown that over the last 25yrs in NI, where they coast in every time. That's why I've no interest in an election, there is no opposition, and SF are not the answer, "when someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time". I think FG would be niave to pay attention to polls when they have to win back 18 seats with new candidates. Expect a raft of independents! | |||
" Interesting, what blood have they got on their hands?" Next thing you'll be trying to convince me Mary Lou is the party leader! 
As above, when someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time! | |||
" Interesting, what blood have they got on their hands? Next thing you'll be trying to convince me Mary Lou is the party leader!
As above, when someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time!" | |||
"I ll never vote SF, for all the blood on their hands and v low moral barometer. Just couldn't do it. Labour and greens are both ineffective. Independents tends to be parachial. FF/FG stale. We desperately need fresh ideas and characters. " This is the truth of it, and sadly, such is the viciousness of what politicians are now subjected to that no-one in their right mind would get into the field. I will be voting independent, it remains to be seen what candidate in my area might be worth it. | |||
"I ll never vote SF, for all the blood on their hands and v low moral barometer. Just couldn't do it. Labour and greens are both ineffective. Independents tends to be parachial. FF/FG stale. We desperately need fresh ideas and characters. This is the truth of it, and sadly, such is the viciousness of what politicians are now subjected to that no-one in their right mind would get into the field. I will be voting independent, it remains to be seen what candidate in my area might be worth it." Ya, it's a tough job, so many social media grifters! I think independents will be the big winner in an election. Very few people are tied to any party nowadays, in the ROI. People vote for personalities and those they think will represent their constituency the best. Regardless of party. | |||
" Interesting, what blood have they got on their hands? Next thing you'll be trying to convince me Mary Lou is the party leader!
As above, when someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time!"I have absolutely no love for SF let alone her! I was just wondering what blood they have on their hands? 🤷♂️ | |||
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"Seems to be the perfect time for the current government to call an election. Sein Fein are in crisis. " You'd think so, but FG are down 18 seats (50%) before they start! I think Independents will take a chunk of them | |||
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"Looks like they'll announce it this week Are you looking forward to it Do you bother voting Anyone who you think is fucked and won't get back in What do you think of the state of the parties ...who'll be in the next government " Looking forward to it - yes. I'm an election nerd. I'm canvassing already and I'll be at the Kildare count centre. Love it. Voting - always Fucked - SF will lose seats. They are again showing the naivety running 2 candidates in certain constituencies and their polls don't reflect it. Next Govt - probably FG led coalition. With who though? re: SF - if the rumours are true about certain potential candidates running in Dublin Central where there are 2 SF candidates - Mary Lou herself could be fucked. | |||
"Looks like they'll announce it this week Are you looking forward to it Do you bother voting Anyone who you think is fucked and won't get back in What do you think of the state of the parties ...who'll be in the next government Looking forward to it - yes. I'm an election nerd. I'm canvassing already and I'll be at the Kildare count centre. Love it. Voting - always Fucked - SF will lose seats. They are again showing the naivety running 2 candidates in certain constituencies and their polls don't reflect it. Next Govt - probably FG led coalition. With who though? re: SF - if the rumours are true about certain potential candidates running in Dublin Central where there are 2 SF candidates - Mary Lou herself could be fucked." I'd take a guess at it but somehow I don't think you're voting SF 😂😂 | |||
"Looks like they'll announce it this week Are you looking forward to it Do you bother voting Anyone who you think is fucked and won't get back in What do you think of the state of the parties ...who'll be in the next government Looking forward to it - yes. I'm an election nerd. I'm canvassing already and I'll be at the Kildare count centre. Love it. Voting - always Fucked - SF will lose seats. They are again showing the naivety running 2 candidates in certain constituencies and their polls don't reflect it. Next Govt - probably FG led coalition. With who though? re: SF - if the rumours are true about certain potential candidates running in Dublin Central where there are 2 SF candidates - Mary Lou herself could be fucked." Don't think The Monk will get votes outside the parish where he was born | |||
"Looks like they'll announce it this week Are you looking forward to it Do you bother voting Anyone who you think is fucked and won't get back in What do you think of the state of the parties ...who'll be in the next government Looking forward to it - yes. I'm an election nerd. I'm canvassing already and I'll be at the Kildare count centre. Love it. Voting - always Fucked - SF will lose seats. They are again showing the naivety running 2 candidates in certain constituencies and their polls don't reflect it. Next Govt - probably FG led coalition. With who though? re: SF - if the rumours are true about certain potential candidates running in Dublin Central where there are 2 SF candidates - Mary Lou herself could be fucked. Don't think The Monk will get votes outside the parish where he was born " I'd vote for him no problem 👌 | |||
"Looks like they'll announce it this week Are you looking forward to it Do you bother voting Anyone who you think is fucked and won't get back in What do you think of the state of the parties ...who'll be in the next government Looking forward to it - yes. I'm an election nerd. I'm canvassing already and I'll be at the Kildare count centre. Love it. Voting - always Fucked - SF will lose seats. They are again showing the naivety running 2 candidates in certain constituencies and their polls don't reflect it. Next Govt - probably FG led coalition. With who though? re: SF - if the rumours are true about certain potential candidates running in Dublin Central where there are 2 SF candidates - Mary Lou herself could be fucked. Don't think The Monk will get votes outside the parish where he was born I'd vote for him no problem 👌" Except you haven't got the vote  | |||
"Looks like they'll announce it this week Are you looking forward to it Do you bother voting Anyone who you think is fucked and won't get back in What do you think of the state of the parties ...who'll be in the next government Looking forward to it - yes. I'm an election nerd. I'm canvassing already and I'll be at the Kildare count centre. Love it. Voting - always Fucked - SF will lose seats. They are again showing the naivety running 2 candidates in certain constituencies and their polls don't reflect it. Next Govt - probably FG led coalition. With who though? re: SF - if the rumours are true about certain potential candidates running in Dublin Central where there are 2 SF candidates - Mary Lou herself could be fucked. Don't think The Monk will get votes outside the parish where he was born I'd vote for him no problem 👌 Except you haven't got the vote "Do you think? Maybe a wee address a mile away in Lifford helps 😉 | |||
"Looks like they'll announce it this week Are you looking forward to it Do you bother voting Anyone who you think is fucked and won't get back in What do you think of the state of the parties ...who'll be in the next government Looking forward to it - yes. I'm an election nerd. I'm canvassing already and I'll be at the Kildare count centre. Love it. Voting - always Fucked - SF will lose seats. They are again showing the naivety running 2 candidates in certain constituencies and their polls don't reflect it. Next Govt - probably FG led coalition. With who though? re: SF - if the rumours are true about certain potential candidates running in Dublin Central where there are 2 SF candidates - Mary Lou herself could be fucked. Don't think The Monk will get votes outside the parish where he was born I'd vote for him no problem 👌 Except you haven't got the vote
Do you think? Maybe a wee address a mile away in Lifford helps 😉 "You still can't vote for him | |||
"Looks like they'll announce it this week Are you looking forward to it Do you bother voting Anyone who you think is fucked and won't get back in What do you think of the state of the parties ...who'll be in the next government Looking forward to it - yes. I'm an election nerd. I'm canvassing already and I'll be at the Kildare count centre. Love it. Voting - always Fucked - SF will lose seats. They are again showing the naivety running 2 candidates in certain constituencies and their polls don't reflect it. Next Govt - probably FG led coalition. With who though? re: SF - if the rumours are true about certain potential candidates running in Dublin Central where there are 2 SF candidates - Mary Lou herself could be fucked. Don't think The Monk will get votes outside the parish where he was born I'd vote for him no problem 👌 Except you haven't got the vote
Do you think? Maybe a wee address a mile away in Lifford helps 😉
You still can't vote for him "I can if I want,I'd just spoil someone else's 😂👌 | |||
"Looks like they'll announce it this week Are you looking forward to it Do you bother voting Anyone who you think is fucked and won't get back in What do you think of the state of the parties ...who'll be in the next government Looking forward to it - yes. I'm an election nerd. I'm canvassing already and I'll be at the Kildare count centre. Love it. Voting - always Fucked - SF will lose seats. They are again showing the naivety running 2 candidates in certain constituencies and their polls don't reflect it. Next Govt - probably FG led coalition. With who though? re: SF - if the rumours are true about certain potential candidates running in Dublin Central where there are 2 SF candidates - Mary Lou herself could be fucked. I'd take a guess at it but somehow I don't think you're voting SF 😂😂" I'm not but that was an objective opinion. Doubt the Monk is running now anyway  | |||
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"I seen a social media post recently which stated that if voted changed anything you wouldn't be allowed to vote. It stuck with me." It what we said in our post, and it baffles us how people go each time to the ballot and hope for change only to be disappointed each time again . And those sitting as TD’s , well most of them, have proven time over time how easy they become corrupted , yet people still go and hand the political blanco cheque to abuse the people again . Maybe the reality is, those have the power of the decision for change are not elected , and those who are elected have no power to make change bringing decisions, they are merely actors in a farce show to make us believe the illusion of democracy | |||
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"I think people are a little deluded to believe a Minister is going to come in on a 4-5yr term and solve generational problems. It's absurd. The system doesn't allow that as we've seen with things like the location of the new children's hospital. We really need to start targeting and getting more accountability from Senior Civil servants. These in turn need to pull the rest of our civil service into line. Nothing will change until they do." In one respect I think it would be beneficial for a long term minister appointed to Health etc but then each department relies on civil servants who have been in that sector decades. Recent visit to a hospital I was astounded at the amount of maintenance/cleaners that were walking about and having the craic with each other at every corner, something which wouldn't happen in the private sector. (Not having a pop at the workers themselves) | |||
"I think people are a little deluded to believe a Minister is going to come in on a 4-5yr term and solve generational problems. It's absurd. The system doesn't allow that as we've seen with things like the location of the new children's hospital. We really need to start targeting and getting more accountability from Senior Civil servants. These in turn need to pull the rest of our civil service into line. Nothing will change until they do. In one respect I think it would be beneficial for a long term minister appointed to Health etc but then each department relies on civil servants who have been in that sector decades. Recent visit to a hospital I was astounded at the amount of maintenance/cleaners that were walking about and having the craic with each other at every corner, something which wouldn't happen in the private sector. (Not having a pop at the workers themselves)" That's the thing though, we already long term minister's, as such. They're the senior civil servants. Yet, we don't even know their names! | |||
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"I think people are a little deluded to believe a Minister is going to come in on a 4-5yr term and solve generational problems. It's absurd. The system doesn't allow that as we've seen with things like the location of the new children's hospital. We really need to start targeting and getting more accountability from Senior Civil servants. These in turn need to pull the rest of our civil service into line. Nothing will change until they do. In one respect I think it would be beneficial for a long term minister appointed to Health etc but then each department relies on civil servants who have been in that sector decades. Recent visit to a hospital I was astounded at the amount of maintenance/cleaners that were walking about and having the craic with each other at every corner, something which wouldn't happen in the private sector. (Not having a pop at the workers themselves) That's the thing though, we already long term minister's, as such. They're the senior civil servants. Yet, we don't even know their names!" Google Hubert Kearns Sligo County Council ! | |||
"Why pick on people that pay private medical insurance I pay twice ...my normal PRSI which is meant to cover everything Then I pay health insurance because PRSI is useless and I want to look after my family I don't use public hospitals I use private hospitals and don't take anyone's place in a public hospital even though I pay for it " ...... It is totally a matter of choice if people wish to pay for private health insurance and I have absolutely no problem with those people getting the health care they pay dearly for in the private system. But lots of consultants put their private patients into beds in public hospitals as a priority over public patients thereby freeing up more beds for patients in private hospitals. It means that public patients are not able to access these beds, may be left on trolleys on corridors and have to wait longer for necessary medical treatment, often to the detriment of their longterm health. Everyone who has paid PRSI is entitled to treatment in a public hospital based on their medical needs but they are not entitled to be prioritised over public patients in public hospitals because they have private health insurance. Interesting that we don't see people on trolleys on the corridors of the private hospitals or waiting in ambulances outside A&E waiting to be admitted. (Would people be happy if teachers in our state run schools were earning a separate income by having 20% of their pupils receiving private tuition in the same class room as the non fee paying pupils. I dont think that would go down very well....but it is exactly what we allow to happen in our hospitals.) | |||
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"US is divisive on guns, abortion, immigration, gender. Ireland - Bike lanes
300 million spent on bike lanes. How many social houses could have been built."The lanes only cost €5 a km, it's the fecking sheds they put on the side that cost more than a house | |||
"Well like you said yourself in another thread about politics. We have to accept the decisions of our elected leaders. Should we, as you say, accept the status quo in the health system as voted for by the will of the people?" The current consultant contract was negotiated by the IMO and the HSE and would probably not stand up to legal or constitutional scrutiny. I for one will be asking my democratically elected representatives to bring about the changes needed in the health system to ensure social justice. | |||
"Well like you said yourself in another thread about politics. We have to accept the decisions of our elected leaders. Should we, as you say, accept the status quo in the health system as voted for by the will of the people? The current consultant contract was negotiated by the IMO and the HSE and would probably not stand up to legal or constitutional scrutiny. I for one will be asking my democratically elected representatives to bring about the changes needed in the health system to ensure social justice. " Given the track record I'd say good luck with that. Sure if everyone keeps voting for the same democratically elected representatives they might get around to it eventually. | |||
"Well like you said yourself in another thread about politics. We have to accept the decisions of our elected leaders. Should we, as you say, accept the status quo in the health system as voted for by the will of the people? The current consultant contract was negotiated by the IMO and the HSE and would probably not stand up to legal or constitutional scrutiny. I for one will be asking my democratically elected representatives to bring about the changes needed in the health system to ensure social justice. Given the track record I'd say good luck with that. Sure if everyone keeps voting for the same democratically elected representatives they might get around to it eventually." ..... Change comes about in a democracy by people power. We can overcome the political apathy and stagnation that comes about when politicians are safely elected by continuing to remind them that we put them into power and we can equally take them out if they do not work towards bringing about the changes we desire and deserve. The ultimate power in a democracy is with the people. | |||
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"There is no possibility of change of government unless the centre left is strong. FFG will hold 45 ish % after the election and will be able to form a government with a little support from ind. Imo the country needs another 15-25% party to counter balance this along with a 15-25% SF. So let's say in a strange world Labour held 20% they could be an alternative partner for any of FF, FG or SF with some ind. That would creat the space for a change of style if not policy each election. I'm not holding my breath but I'll be voting to support SD and Labour more to create the possibility than because I agree with their policies." .... 👍 It would be a good start towards achieving the political change and social justice this country needs. | |||
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"It's time for a lot more accountability for politicians, if they're gonna claim to do something & don't hit that target, then like any other important roles in life it's bye bye, a lot of nonsense will be spouted in run up to election on what everyone will do when none of it is done, n none of them will come close to achieving it, same government for years telling us they'll improve this that & the other & the only thing you can guarantee they'll improve is their bank balance & pension fund" ... Not strictly true. New legislation is drafted and brought before the Dail on a weekly basis to be debated and voted on. The problem may sometimes be that the most urgent legislative changes are not prioritised. Again lobbying by the people will make sure that the most urgent changes get put on top of the list. Dont just vote and then sit back waiting for change to happen.....keep in constant communication with your elected representatives to lobby for the change you want. That's how democracy works properly on behalf of the electorate. | |||
"Why pick on people that pay private medical insurance I pay twice ...my normal PRSI which is meant to cover everything Then I pay health insurance because PRSI is useless and I want to look after my family I don't use public hospitals I use private hospitals and don't take anyone's place in a public hospital even though I pay for it ...... It is totally a matter of choice if people wish to pay for private health insurance and I have absolutely no problem with those people getting the health care they pay dearly for in the private system. But lots of consultants put their private patients into beds in public hospitals as a priority over public patients thereby freeing up more beds for patients in private hospitals. It means that public patients are not able to access these beds, may be left on trolleys on corridors and have to wait longer for necessary medical treatment, often to the detriment of their longterm health. Everyone who has paid PRSI is entitled to treatment in a public hospital based on their medical needs but they are not entitled to be prioritised over public patients in public hospitals because they have private health insurance. Interesting that we don't see people on trolleys on the corridors of the private hospitals or waiting in ambulances outside A&E waiting to be admitted. (Would people be happy if teachers in our state run schools were earning a separate income by having 20% of their pupils receiving private tuition in the same class room as the non fee paying pupils. I dont think that would go down very well....but it is exactly what we allow to happen in our hospitals.) " You might be entitled to treatment in a public hospital. But you're not entitled to consultants. Many of whom, if pushed, could walk away from the public system. | |||
"There is no possibility of change of government unless the centre left is strong. FFG will hold 45 ish % after the election and will be able to form a government with a little support from ind. Imo the country needs another 15-25% party to counter balance this along with a 15-25% SF. So let's say in a strange world Labour held 20% they could be an alternative partner for any of FF, FG or SF with some ind. That would creat the space for a change of style if not policy each election. I'm not holding my breath but I'll be voting to support SD and Labour more to create the possibility than because I agree with their policies. .... 👍 It would be a good start towards achieving the political change and social justice this country needs." Ah lads, are ye on drugs? This country is left as left can be in a democracy. Every party is pushing further left all the time and FFG have been stupid enough to follow them! The public sector continuously grows with little value to the taxpayer. Totally unaccountable civil servants. Absolutely massive social welfare state that would collapse if one multinational folds! On third generation of the totally dependent. Working people taxed every way they move to provide more for less. Nothing will change until one party grows strong enough to hold a solid centre or centre-right position and we get some balance into Irish politics. | |||
"Why pick on people that pay private medical insurance I pay twice ...my normal PRSI which is meant to cover everything Then I pay health insurance because PRSI is useless and I want to look after my family I don't use public hospitals I use private hospitals and don't take anyone's place in a public hospital even though I pay for it ...... It is totally a matter of choice if people wish to pay for private health insurance and I have absolutely no problem with those people getting the health care they pay dearly for in the private system. But lots of consultants put their private patients into beds in public hospitals as a priority over public patients thereby freeing up more beds for patients in private hospitals. It means that public patients are not able to access these beds, may be left on trolleys on corridors and have to wait longer for necessary medical treatment, often to the detriment of their longterm health. Everyone who has paid PRSI is entitled to treatment in a public hospital based on their medical needs but they are not entitled to be prioritised over public patients in public hospitals because they have private health insurance. Interesting that we don't see people on trolleys on the corridors of the private hospitals or waiting in ambulances outside A&E waiting to be admitted. (Would people be happy if teachers in our state run schools were earning a separate income by having 20% of their pupils receiving private tuition in the same class room as the non fee paying pupils. I dont think that would go down very well....but it is exactly what we allow to happen in our hospitals.) You might be entitled to treatment in a public hospital. But you're not entitled to consultants. Many of whom, if pushed, could walk away from the public system." Yes you are actually entitled to a consultant and any other medical services that the public hospital system provides. If some of the money grabbers moved over totally to the private health system it would make way for some non consultant hospital doctors to move into the consultant roles where many would be more than happy to provide their services and increase their skill levels through additional theatre hours. Consuktants dividing their time between the public and private health systems is like riding two horses in the one race. It is akin to fmf or mfm....one party is missing out on some of the action or at least has to wait in line for their turn to receive the attention they desire. | |||
"Why pick on people that pay private medical insurance I pay twice ...my normal PRSI which is meant to cover everything Then I pay health insurance because PRSI is useless and I want to look after my family I don't use public hospitals I use private hospitals and don't take anyone's place in a public hospital even though I pay for it ...... It is totally a matter of choice if people wish to pay for private health insurance and I have absolutely no problem with those people getting the health care they pay dearly for in the private system. But lots of consultants put their private patients into beds in public hospitals as a priority over public patients thereby freeing up more beds for patients in private hospitals. It means that public patients are not able to access these beds, may be left on trolleys on corridors and have to wait longer for necessary medical treatment, often to the detriment of their longterm health. Everyone who has paid PRSI is entitled to treatment in a public hospital based on their medical needs but they are not entitled to be prioritised over public patients in public hospitals because they have private health insurance. Interesting that we don't see people on trolleys on the corridors of the private hospitals or waiting in ambulances outside A&E waiting to be admitted. (Would people be happy if teachers in our state run schools were earning a separate income by having 20% of their pupils receiving private tuition in the same class room as the non fee paying pupils. I dont think that would go down very well....but it is exactly what we allow to happen in our hospitals.) You might be entitled to treatment in a public hospital. But you're not entitled to consultants. Many of whom, if pushed, could walk away from the public system. Yes you are actually entitled to a consultant and any other medical services that the public hospital system provides. If some of the money grabbers moved over totally to the private health system it would make way for some non consultant hospital doctors to move into the consultant roles where many would be more than happy to provide their services and increase their skill levels through additional theatre hours. Consuktants dividing their time between the public and private health systems is like riding two horses in the one race. It is akin to fmf or mfm....one party is missing out on some of the action or at least has to wait in line for their turn to receive the attention they desire. " Are all the non-consultant doctors in the room with us now? | |||
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"I'm looking forward to it in a grim kind of way, ghoulishly fascinated but knowing it will make very little difference to our lives in real terms. It seems all the established parties have quietly given up trying to deal with the big issues, reform of health care and education, housing, law & Order, immigration etc, and instead seem to spend all their energies on the margins, faffing about with tweaking taxes, new grants, etc. And coming up with new things they can ban or restrict, basically looking for positive feedback from a media class that is as out of touch as they are from ordinary people." Exactly, they love creating things that they can be seen to be working on, and creating a narrative and talking point around it. All the while avoiding what they should be working on. The whole family referendum was a problem created that didn't need to be solved in the first place. The opposition don't really bother providing any viable solutions out of fear they'll get elected to do so. FFG spent most of their term running around after SF. Trying to quell any issue they brought up. Chasing voters that are never going to vote for them..its been a shambles of a Dáil. | |||
" 300 million spent on bike lanes. How many social houses could have been built." How else do you expect people to get to the bike shelter in Leinster house? | |||
"One question for all of your election candidates. Will they work towards rescinding the Hospital Consultant/HSE contract which allows consultants to treat 20% private patients in public hospitals. Ceasing this practice would free up 20% bed spaces thereby sorting the "trolly crisis" in the public hospitals. No people on trolleys means less chaos in A&E. It might mean people on trolleys in the private hospitals but that is a problem for the shareholders of those private commercial operations to solve. A question for all candidates. Will they ensure that no TD fiddles their expenses... And if they do will they be suspended without pay from the Dail. A question for PBPSoladiraty candidates. What jobs do they intend to create to replace the job losses caused by their proposed 4.5% levy on the profits of multinational pharmaceutical companies. A question for SF candidates. Have the men of violence that were associated with the party "gone away"...... Question for all candidates Would they support a "National Coalition" put in place for 5 years to specifically sort the Health and Housing crises. Looking forward to hearing my doorbell ring over the next few weeks. " On the doorstep: Yes sir, no sir, three bags full sir. In government: No pleb, yes pleb, we will be the first to acknowledge that work still needs to be done when it comes to delivering those 3 full bags, but we have a number of schemes which are helping those who want to purchase bags and fill them and we'll make no apologies for that. If we had listened to our political opponents, we would have only one bag with holes in it. | |||
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