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Menopause or perimenopause
Ladies what's your experiences so far?
Any tips? Remedies? Hints to help?
I'm a few years in peri, only diagnosed over a year, on hrt which has helped but good lord Mt patience seems to be getting shorter |
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By *lueLotusWoman 12 weeks ago
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Aw yeah good old peri it's fun isn't it. Good to hear your HRT is helping, it may need tweaking. Mine needed a few tweaks over the first couple of years for optimal help,so if you've not been in a while maybe check with your gp and get bloods, blood pressure etc checked too.
Raspberry leaf tea is a good balancer and anything that you enjoy doing which soothes your nervous system would be great to focus on too x |
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My only symptom so far is random bleeding which is really frustrating when it comes to meets, and after 35 years of predictability to the day. Feels like I'm bleeding all the time some months. Anyone else have this? |
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"My only symptom so far is random bleeding which is really frustrating when it comes to meets, and after 35 years of predictability to the day. Feels like I'm bleeding all the time some months. Anyone else have this? "
Mine had stooped for 9 months now it's 21 days apart and heavy  |
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By *lueLotusWoman 12 weeks ago
the wilderness |
I had that too my first year on hrt I thought it would never stop but it settled eventually. It was very light though.
If yours isn't light you might want to watch out you don't get anaemic, get bloods done every 6 months.
I've gone from never ever going to the doctor to now having to go every 6 months it's a pain in the arse but worth it to stay sane.
Beppy sponge tampons are great for if you've a meet planned and get caught out. The last time I used one I told the guy and asked him coukd he feel it he said no. |
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"My only symptom so far is random bleeding which is really frustrating when it comes to meets, and after 35 years of predictability to the day. Feels like I'm bleeding all the time some months. Anyone else have this? "
I had about 18 months of unpredictability before my periods stopped completely. It was a total pain in the backside and I couldn't really do anything except roll with it (and yep it resulted in a couple of last minute meet cancellations on my part). |
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Definitely keep reviewing your HRT with your GP.
I didn't have HRT in peri as my doctor wouldn't prescribe it til I was a full year period-free, but, without sounding too dramatic, it was life changing when I started it. I've been lucky; I was prescribed Evorel Conti patches from the start and they've worked well for me (I did have a little bleeding during the first 6 weeks or so but that's normal). I sleep better at night, I'm less tired during the day, my mood swings have subsided and the hot flushes are no more. I also take Menopace to help with my energy levels and cod liver oil for joint pain.
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By *lueLotusWoman 12 weeks ago
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"Definitely keep reviewing your HRT with your GP.
I didn't have HRT in peri as my doctor wouldn't prescribe it til I was a full year period-free, but, without sounding too dramatic, it was life changing when I started it. I've been lucky; I was prescribed Evorel Conti patches from the start and they've worked well for me (I did have a little bleeding during the first 6 weeks or so but that's normal). I sleep better at night, I'm less tired during the day, my mood swings have subsided and the hot flushes are no more. I also take Menopace to help with my energy levels and cod liver oil for joint pain.
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Do you see a big difference in your energy levels with the menopace? I could do with that too if so |
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"Definitely keep reviewing your HRT with your GP.
I didn't have HRT in peri as my doctor wouldn't prescribe it til I was a full year period-free, but, without sounding too dramatic, it was life changing when I started it. I've been lucky; I was prescribed Evorel Conti patches from the start and they've worked well for me (I did have a little bleeding during the first 6 weeks or so but that's normal). I sleep better at night, I'm less tired during the day, my mood swings have subsided and the hot flushes are no more. I also take Menopace to help with my energy levels and cod liver oil for joint pain.
Do you see a big difference in your energy levels with the menopace? I could do with that too if so"
Noticeable yes. Perhaps not huge but I can feel the difference on the days I forget to take it |
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By *dfabMan 12 weeks ago
Dunboyne |
I'm joking ladies. After spending 3yrs with my mother going through menopause, I know it's rough.
Not just on you but also those around you sometimes.
Hope you find whatever therapies you can that suit you best to get through it  |
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"I had that too my first year on hrt I thought it would never stop but it settled eventually. It was very light though.
If yours isn't light you might want to watch out you don't get anaemic, get bloods done every 6 months.
I've gone from never ever going to the doctor to now having to go every 6 months it's a pain in the arse but worth it to stay sane.
Beppy sponge tampons are great for if you've a meet planned and get caught out. The last time I used one I told the guy and asked him coukd he feel it he said no. "
I am anaemic atm. On iron. I will look for these. I'm lucky I've no other symptoms apart from worse pms. And more often. I pitty the fools that mess with me 🤣🤬
I'm.sure it will get worse before it gets better. |
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"It's awesome the way modern medicine can help you guys now, imagine the poor generations years ago, it's never been a better time to be alive.
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You'd be surprised how many women in this country are told they too young to be in menopause and actually have to fight to get hrt |
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Slightly off topic, but I had a radical hysterectomy 6 wks ago and am on the patches, how do I know if the dosage is correct? Would a blood test tell me? I don’t have flushes or night sweats but my anxiety is through the roof and my moods are up and down, also my whole body aches! |
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"Slightly off topic, but I had a radical hysterectomy 6 wks ago and am on the patches, how do I know if the dosage is correct? Would a blood test tell me? I don’t have flushes or night sweats but my anxiety is through the roof and my moods are up and down, also my whole body aches! "
Symptoms are the only way to diagnose Menopause - blood tests are almost irrelevant.
Give it another while on the patches to see how you are.
If they didn't take your womb then you need progesterone as well.
It's beyond unbelievable how little most GPs know about this subject and how much women go through as a result. |
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"Slightly off topic, but I had a radical hysterectomy 6 wks ago and am on the patches, how do I know if the dosage is correct? Would a blood test tell me? I don’t have flushes or night sweats but my anxiety is through the roof and my moods are up and down, also my whole body aches!
Symptoms are the only way to diagnose Menopause - blood tests are almost irrelevant.
Give it another while on the patches to see how you are.
If they didn't take your womb then you need progesterone as well.
It's beyond unbelievable how little most GPs know about this subject and how much women go through as a result."
I’m on progesterone too, but they took everything, he put me on the progesterone as I have severe endo so the surgeon wants to do another mri in a years time to make sure it’s gone and then he will take me off the progesterone and leave just the estrogen patches. I think as it’s only been 6 weeks it’s probably a little too early to tell, a lot of the “symptoms” could also be just from the surgery itself so I’ll hold off a while longer. I had a call with the surgeon two wks ago and he said he will follow up with me in afew wks to check how the hrt is doing and he can up my dose if needed |
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By *apmCouple 12 weeks ago
navan |
HRT is the only way to replace your hormone deficiency but I found adding testosterone a total game changer. It was the missing link for me. It can be a battle to get GP to prescribe as it’s off license for women in Ireland. Can only be prescribed for low libido but definitely improves brain fog and energy levels.
A few inconvenient side effects like those damn bastard hairs on your chin! But worth it!  |
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By *aseylee324Couple 12 weeks ago
Valley of Squinting Windows |
From a male perspective here, I think women have gotten a seriously raw deal with menopause. It is awful. For the small percentage of women who go through menopause with relatively minor impact, they are the lucky ones. For the rest it's a god awful nightmare.
Also, there doesn't appear to be a clear cut solution or therapy that works for all. What works for one woman doesn't work for another, and there's a constant search for anything that will make the experience more tolerable.
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"Menopause or perimenopause
Ladies what's your experiences so far?
Any tips? Remedies? Hints to help?
I'm a few years in peri, only diagnosed over a year, on hrt which has helped but good lord Mt patience seems to be getting shorter "
Sorry to hear that.
I have been practicing yoga daily for many years and naturally get to know a lot of the women who attend.
Many of them swear by yoga to calm things down and help with keeping things on an even keel.
Regards |
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For me it's the brain fog that can be pretty debilitating.
I've always been very sharp and on the ball. Just last week, on the same day...I ended up at a different place than arranged to meet my pal for a coffee and then I went on to arrive an hour early for an appointment I'd only the previous evening confirmed the time of.
Menopause/Peri is no fun. |
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Eurgh it's bloody awful. I actually feel like I lost my mind for a while with it. Evorel 50 patches, Vagifem pessary and testosterone finally straightened me out a bit but it took over 3 years of various doses and combinations to get to this point.
Migraines were debilitating and complete and utter lack of sex drive or interest in anything. Hot flushes during the night mostly and the bed was drenched and needed changed constantly.
I'm still far from who I was and doubt I'll ever feel like I once did but a lot better than I was.
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"Slightly off topic, but I had a radical hysterectomy 6 wks ago and am on the patches, how do I know if the dosage is correct? Would a blood test tell me? I don’t have flushes or night sweats but my anxiety is through the roof and my moods are up and down, also my whole body aches! "
I hope you have recovered well, it's a big op and not an easy choice to make. When I had mine I had no symptoms at all but once they kicked in the GP wouldn't change any treatment until I had been on it for 3 months at a time. |
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"Slightly off topic, but I had a radical hysterectomy 6 wks ago and am on the patches, how do I know if the dosage is correct? Would a blood test tell me? I don’t have flushes or night sweats but my anxiety is through the roof and my moods are up and down, also my whole body aches!
I hope you have recovered well, it's a big op and not an easy choice to make. When I had mine I had no symptoms at all but once they kicked in the GP wouldn't change any treatment until I had been on it for 3 months at a time."
How long did it take for your symptoms to kick in? I started getting hot flushes the next day in the hospital! I’m very grateful my surgeon is an endo specialist, I had to go to the uk to see him, and he takes all of women’s health issues very seriously and doesn’t want to see any of his patients in distress so he’s already said that next time we speak if I am having symptoms that he can up the patch dosage. He’s also offered to prescribe the testosterone if needed |
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About 8 weeks or so for me. That's great that your Consultant is so clued in as so many think it's a one fit for all treatment and it's really not. I had my hysterectomy 8 years ago and still needing changes to treatment. |
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Ladies go through so much, men would never handle all this stuff. My ex wife is a kinesiologist and her clients get great relief and ideas on dealing with this whole subject from her. Alternative medicine seems to be a big help too. Just thought I would mention this, hopefully you all find what works for you. |
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"Slightly off topic, but I had a radical hysterectomy 6 wks ago and am on the patches, how do I know if the dosage is correct? Would a blood test tell me? I don’t have flushes or night sweats but my anxiety is through the roof and my moods are up and down, also my whole body aches!
Symptoms are the only way to diagnose Menopause - blood tests are almost irrelevant.
Give it another while on the patches to see how you are.
If they didn't take your womb then you need progesterone as well.
It's beyond unbelievable how little most GPs know about this subject and how much women go through as a result.
I’m on progesterone too, but they took everything, he put me on the progesterone as I have severe endo so the surgeon wants to do another mri in a years time to make sure it’s gone and then he will take me off the progesterone and leave just the estrogen patches. I think as it’s only been 6 weeks it’s probably a little too early to tell, a lot of the “symptoms” could also be just from the surgery itself so I’ll hold off a while longer. I had a call with the surgeon two wks ago and he said he will follow up with me in afew wks to check how the hrt is doing and he can up my dose if needed"
That's great that they're keeping on top of it with you.
I've heard of so many women who have a hysterectomy and nothing is said to them about HRT. Given that a total hysterectomy puts you into Menopause straight away, that's just cruel to not talk to them about it. |
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"Menopause or perimenopause
Ladies what's your experiences so far?
Any tips? Remedies? Hints to help?
I'm a few years in peri, only diagnosed over a year, on hrt which has helped but good lord Mt patience seems to be getting shorter
Sorry to hear that.
I have been practicing yoga daily for many years and naturally get to know a lot of the women who attend.
Many of them swear by yoga to calm things down and help with keeping things on an even keel.
Regards "
Natural remedies are great - anything that helps is. But obviously nothing but HRT will replace the hormones we lose and still need.
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I'm on HRT four years now, I saw a gynae initially because like for some of the posters above, my periods became heavy and unpredictable. I was getting sheet-soaking hot flushes at night, and easily irritated, irrationally angry🙈 You would actually feel you were going mad at times.
The progesterone/oestrogen treatments have changed a bit over time, I was smoking in the beginning and that's a risk for consideration, but Ive the coil in now and oestrogen gel which is keeping me feeling reasonably balanced 🙏
Some posters ask how it affects sex-drive and I suppose peri-menopause for me heralded a surge in my sexual expression. Not that I'm horny 24/7, though sometimes theres a surge in that, but Im embracing feeling sexy while I can cos I didn't when I was younger
In general, it can mean we need lube on hand when maybe we never did before
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Has anyone tried Dong Quai? It was recommended to me in a natural store when I was asking about anything that might help my ex-wife. The Dong Quai was highly recommended and there were literally two women in the shop who chimed in to say they used it and it was amazing. |
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"Slightly off topic, but I had a radical hysterectomy 6 wks ago and am on the patches, how do I know if the dosage is correct? Would a blood test tell me? I don’t have flushes or night sweats but my anxiety is through the roof and my moods are up and down, also my whole body aches!
Symptoms are the only way to diagnose Menopause - blood tests are almost irrelevant.
Give it another while on the patches to see how you are.
If they didn't take your womb then you need progesterone as well.
It's beyond unbelievable how little most GPs know about this subject and how much women go through as a result.
I’m on progesterone too, but they took everything, he put me on the progesterone as I have severe endo so the surgeon wants to do another mri in a years time to make sure it’s gone and then he will take me off the progesterone and leave just the estrogen patches. I think as it’s only been 6 weeks it’s probably a little too early to tell, a lot of the “symptoms” could also be just from the surgery itself so I’ll hold off a while longer. I had a call with the surgeon two wks ago and he said he will follow up with me in afew wks to check how the hrt is doing and he can up my dose if needed
That's great that they're keeping on top of it with you.
I've heard of so many women who have a hysterectomy and nothing is said to them about HRT. Given that a total hysterectomy puts you into Menopause straight away, that's just cruel to not talk to them about it."
Exactly, coz everything was removed it was immediate menopause, I’m quite lucky with this guy, I’m dreading having to go to my own gp if I have to change it in the years to come, but one step at a time I suppose! |
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"Has anyone tried Dong Quai? It was recommended to me in a natural store when I was asking about anything that might help my ex-wife. The Dong Quai was highly recommended and there were literally two women in the shop who chimed in to say they used it and it was amazing."
Natural remedies will help with symptoms but where women can, and some can't, HRT is the only way to replace hormones. My patches will have to prized out of my cold dead hands...  |
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By *aseylee324Couple 12 weeks ago
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I've been on HRT for almost 5 years now, it's made fuck all difference (4 different types/combinations so far) other than stopping the night sweats. Natural remedies made zero difference to symptoms. 58 next month and still having periods, recently changed doctors to someone who says she can help if I give her 9 months. She's upped the dosage of everything which is now causing constant spotting. She's suggested Mirena to stop periods as they are really killing me at this stage, can barely climb the stairs during them. |
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By *eordie.Woman 12 weeks ago
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"I've been on HRT for almost 5 years now, it's made fuck all difference (4 different types/combinations so far) other than stopping the night sweats. Natural remedies made zero difference to symptoms. 58 next month and still having periods, recently changed doctors to someone who says she can help if I give her 9 months. She's upped the dosage of everything which is now causing constant spotting. She's suggested Mirena to stop periods as they are really killing me at this stage, can barely climb the stairs during them."
And I can tell you from my own experience that the Mirena is go guarantee of stopping them. It used to, but no more the last few years.
This is hell, and no one prepares you for the horror of it |
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By *aseylee324Couple 12 weeks ago
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"I've been on HRT for almost 5 years now, it's made fuck all difference (4 different types/combinations so far) other than stopping the night sweats. Natural remedies made zero difference to symptoms. 58 next month and still having periods, recently changed doctors to someone who says she can help if I give her 9 months. She's upped the dosage of everything which is now causing constant spotting. She's suggested Mirena to stop periods as they are really killing me at this stage, can barely climb the stairs during them.
And I can tell you from my own experience that the Mirena is go guarantee of stopping them. It used to, but no more the last few years.
This is hell, and no one prepares you for the horror of it"
I'm in two minds about it myself, having tried it years ago and it gave me intolerable mood swings. |
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By *lueLotusWoman 12 weeks ago
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I am anaemic atm. On iron. I will look for these. I'm lucky I've no other symptoms apart from worse pms. And more often. I pitty the fools that mess with me 🤣🤬
I'm.sure it will get worse before it gets better. "
I was severely anaemic with periods just getting heavier and shorter cycle, it's one of the first indicators of peri. Iron tablets, then iron injections, nothing could turn it around as I just kept losing it again every month. My doctor one day suggested I just live with it so I changed doctors to a woman gp who specialises in women's health and fist she tried those tablets to try staunch it I can't remember the name, they didn't work. We'd spoken about the mirena, I was really reluctant but as a last resort I got it.
It took nearly a year to settle, almost constant spotting but very very light I would even bother with a panty liner. It's changed everything for me. The mirena provides my progesterone and later on because I had awful brain fog she put me on estrogen patches. Again, life changer.
It's taken a lot of tweaking and still needs monitoring but the difference for me is unreal. |
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"Slightly off topic, but I had a radical hysterectomy 6 wks ago and am on the patches, how do I know if the dosage is correct? Would a blood test tell me? I don’t have flushes or night sweats but my anxiety is through the roof and my moods are up and down, also my whole body aches! "
, go to menopause specialists, maybe u need higher dose of patch
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By *astelloWoman 11 weeks ago
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On hrt for nearly a year. Lucky to have an amazing female doctor. On evorel conti and progesterone. Took a while but now into a rhythm. Biggest issue was weight gain with hrt. But it's a balancing act. Great pages on FB, irish menopause group worth looking at. Good luck |
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I've the marina... it seems to still be helping with all sorts of issues we deal with.
I feel like I went through some of the symptoms of the pause a few years ago.. not all however.
And I'd like to thank the OP for stating this chat... so many will get benefits from it. The talk around this chapter of our lives is critical to getting through it...
No matter what age...
Hugs, cool clothes, abd chocolate to you all x |
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"I've the marina... it seems to still be helping with all sorts of issues we deal with.
I feel like I went through some of the symptoms of the pause a few years ago.. not all however.
And I'd like to thank the OP for stating this chat... so many will get benefits from it. The talk around this chapter of our lives is critical to getting through it...
No matter what age...
Hugs, cool clothes, abd chocolate to you all x"
Me too with the Marina. My main symptoms are Brain Fog which is serious to the point of not being able to function in every day life, Insomnia and pain around hips and legs. The lowest dose Evorel eradicated the leg pain. Improvement on others but just shifted up to next strength. Fingers crossed I'll see Improvement in the Brain Fog and Insomnia. I'm only about 8 weeks in to treatment.
Never been hornier though! Silver linings! |
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By *panishRebelMan 11 weeks ago
Alicante Spain, and Cork City Ireland |
"Jaysus!
Women go to such lengths to say they've experienced something close to Man Flu  "
I believe there's a public burning for the riskiest comment on fab ever.
Your definitely in the running....🤣🤣🤣 |
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I watched and experienced the mood swings in my mother. She was suicidal at times over a ten year period so I was determined not to have the same.
Came off the pill due to high blood pressure. Full heavy periods back again. Within a short time I was able to avail of HRT even whilst still having periods. After hysterectomy reduced to oestrogen only. I’m going to stay on it for as long as I can.
It’s great to share our experiences and knowledge on here. Suspect we’ve lost the men! But then they have football!!😂 |
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By *og-ManMan 11 weeks ago
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"I watched and experienced the mood swings in my mother. She was suicidal at times over a ten year period so I was determined not to have the same.
Came off the pill due to high blood pressure. Full heavy periods back again. Within a short time I was able to avail of HRT even whilst still having periods. After hysterectomy reduced to oestrogen only. I’m going to stay on it for as long as I can.
It’s great to share our experiences and knowledge on here. Suspect we’ve lost the men! But then they have football!!😂"
Ye haven't lost all the men.its always interesting to learn something new about women |
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"I watched and experienced the mood swings in my mother. She was suicidal at times over a ten year period so I was determined not to have the same.
Came off the pill due to high blood pressure. Full heavy periods back again. Within a short time I was able to avail of HRT even whilst still having periods. After hysterectomy reduced to oestrogen only. I’m going to stay on it for as long as I can.
It’s great to share our experiences and knowledge on here. Suspect we’ve lost the men! But then they have football!!😂"
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Men who have experienced their own midlife "manopause" in terms of changing hormone levels, mood changes, loss of libido, etc., should have some small understanding of what women go through as part of the ever changing tapestry of human life. |
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"I watched and experienced the mood swings in my mother. She was suicidal at times over a ten year period so I was determined not to have the same.
Came off the pill due to high blood pressure. Full heavy periods back again. Within a short time I was able to avail of HRT even whilst still having periods. After hysterectomy reduced to oestrogen only. I’m going to stay on it for as long as I can.
It’s great to share our experiences and knowledge on here. Suspect we’ve lost the men! But then they have football!!😂
Ye haven't lost all the men.its always interesting to learn something new about women "
This affects men because it affects mens loved ones. It affects the whole family. So it's good to see some guys seeing this as an 'us' problem rather than a her' problem. My partner is the same with me. Totally on board amd interested and to be fair quite enjoying the extra raging horniness. |
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For those on the patches, where do you put them? I’m putting them on my outer thigh but reading online this morning a lot of women say they work better on the lower abdomen? I was told to place below the waist so I’m a bit confused! I’ve emailed my surgeon for a higher dose of patch, I’m getting hot flushes and high heart rate today  |
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45 and Havnt had a period in 100 days, had some v mild hot flushes over the summer, possibly brain fog but I put it down to the wine, and minor achyiness which I put down to not enough exercise.
Going to join a gym and lift weights and swim. Better way to spend time than wine and TV. |
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By *aseylee324Couple 11 weeks ago
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"For those on the patches, where do you put them? I’m putting them on my outer thigh but reading online this morning a lot of women say they work better on the lower abdomen? I was told to place below the waist so I’m a bit confused! I’ve emailed my surgeon for a higher dose of patch, I’m getting hot flushes and high heart rate today "
It can take up to 3 months to feel the full effect of a particular dosage. Oestrogen is kept to the lowest dose to help reduce breast cancer risk. Your doc may advise waiting another few weeks.
On another note, do you drink a lot of coffee? It can be an aggravating factor for flushes and racing heart rate, we tend to get more sensitive to caffeine as we get older |
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"For those on the patches, where do you put them? I’m putting them on my outer thigh but reading online this morning a lot of women say they work better on the lower abdomen? I was told to place below the waist so I’m a bit confused! I’ve emailed my surgeon for a higher dose of patch, I’m getting hot flushes and high heart rate today "
I put mine on outer thigh, lower tummy or bum cheeks |
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"Also ladies who no longer menstruate, ask your doc about having a bone density scan, especially if there's a family history of osteoporosis/osteopenia."
Just ask to be referred for a Dexa scan. If you have health insurance you shouldn't have to cover the cost. |
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"For those on the patches, where do you put them? I’m putting them on my outer thigh but reading online this morning a lot of women say they work better on the lower abdomen? I was told to place below the waist so I’m a bit confused! I’ve emailed my surgeon for a higher dose of patch, I’m getting hot flushes and high heart rate today
It can take up to 3 months to feel the full effect of a particular dosage. Oestrogen is kept to the lowest dose to help reduce breast cancer risk. Your doc may advise waiting another few weeks.
On another note, do you drink a lot of coffee? It can be an aggravating factor for flushes and racing heart rate, we tend to get more sensitive to caffeine as we get older"
But be aware there is only as much risk of cancer as there is if you take the pill, probably less. Cancer has been, and is still being, used by too many ignorant and very ill-informed GPs as a scare tactic and a reason not to offer HRT. And it's out-dated and incorrect information.
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By *aseylee324Couple 11 weeks ago
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"For those on the patches, where do you put them? I’m putting them on my outer thigh but reading online this morning a lot of women say they work better on the lower abdomen? I was told to place below the waist so I’m a bit confused! I’ve emailed my surgeon for a higher dose of patch, I’m getting hot flushes and high heart rate today
It can take up to 3 months to feel the full effect of a particular dosage. Oestrogen is kept to the lowest dose to help reduce breast cancer risk. Your doc may advise waiting another few weeks.
On another note, do you drink a lot of coffee? It can be an aggravating factor for flushes and racing heart rate, we tend to get more sensitive to caffeine as we get older
But be aware there is only as much risk of cancer as there is if you take the pill, probably less. Cancer has been, and is still being, used by too many ignorant and very ill-informed GPs as a scare tactic and a reason not to offer HRT. And it's out-dated and incorrect information.
Women need to do the research themselves and tell the GP what they want. "
There IS an increased risk though however small it might be, and it would be remiss of doctors to not mention this, especially in the case of women with family history of breast and/or ovarian cancer. You are correct though in thinking that a lot of doctors haven't moved beyond the scare stories of the early 00s. All women over 50 are advised to avail of the free Breast check screening, you can check online to see if you're registered.
Oh and don't forget regular smear tests, unless your cervix has been removed, you should still have them to the age of 65. I recently discovered that a friend thought she didn't need them post-menopause. |
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"For those on the patches, where do you put them? I’m putting them on my outer thigh but reading online this morning a lot of women say they work better on the lower abdomen? I was told to place below the waist so I’m a bit confused! I’ve emailed my surgeon for a higher dose of patch, I’m getting hot flushes and high heart rate today
It can take up to 3 months to feel the full effect of a particular dosage. Oestrogen is kept to the lowest dose to help reduce breast cancer risk. Your doc may advise waiting another few weeks.
On another note, do you drink a lot of coffee? It can be an aggravating factor for flushes and racing heart rate, we tend to get more sensitive to caffeine as we get older
But be aware there is only as much risk of cancer as there is if you take the pill, probably less. Cancer has been, and is still being, used by too many ignorant and very ill-informed GPs as a scare tactic and a reason not to offer HRT. And it's out-dated and incorrect information.
Women need to do the research themselves and tell the GP what they want.
There IS an increased risk though however small it might be, and it would be remiss of doctors to not mention this, especially in the case of women with family history of breast and/or ovarian cancer. You are correct though in thinking that a lot of doctors haven't moved beyond the scare stories of the early 00s. All women over 50 are advised to avail of the free Breast check screening, you can check online to see if you're registered.
Oh and don't forget regular smear tests, unless your cervix has been removed, you should still have them to the age of 65. I recently discovered that a friend thought she didn't need them post-menopause."
You're right, and only if already a history.
If only there was a 'one size fits all' solution
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By *aseylee324Couple 11 weeks ago
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"For those on the patches, where do you put them? I’m putting them on my outer thigh but reading online this morning a lot of women say they work better on the lower abdomen? I was told to place below the waist so I’m a bit confused! I’ve emailed my surgeon for a higher dose of patch, I’m getting hot flushes and high heart rate today
It can take up to 3 months to feel the full effect of a particular dosage. Oestrogen is kept to the lowest dose to help reduce breast cancer risk. Your doc may advise waiting another few weeks.
On another note, do you drink a lot of coffee? It can be an aggravating factor for flushes and racing heart rate, we tend to get more sensitive to caffeine as we get older
But be aware there is only as much risk of cancer as there is if you take the pill, probably less. Cancer has been, and is still being, used by too many ignorant and very ill-informed GPs as a scare tactic and a reason not to offer HRT. And it's out-dated and incorrect information.
Women need to do the research themselves and tell the GP what they want.
There IS an increased risk though however small it might be, and it would be remiss of doctors to not mention this, especially in the case of women with family history of breast and/or ovarian cancer. You are correct though in thinking that a lot of doctors haven't moved beyond the scare stories of the early 00s. All women over 50 are advised to avail of the free Breast check screening, you can check online to see if you're registered.
Oh and don't forget regular smear tests, unless your cervix has been removed, you should still have them to the age of 65. I recently discovered that a friend thought she didn't need them post-menopause.
You're right, and only if already a history.
If only there was a 'one size fits all' solution
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It's trial and error alright! Lifestyle risk factors play their part too
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By *ustBoWoman 11 weeks ago
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"For those on the patches, where do you put them? I’m putting them on my outer thigh but reading online this morning a lot of women say they work better on the lower abdomen? I was told to place below the waist so I’m a bit confused! I’ve emailed my surgeon for a higher dose of patch, I’m getting hot flushes and high heart rate today
It can take up to 3 months to feel the full effect of a particular dosage. Oestrogen is kept to the lowest dose to help reduce breast cancer risk. Your doc may advise waiting another few weeks.
On another note, do you drink a lot of coffee? It can be an aggravating factor for flushes and racing heart rate, we tend to get more sensitive to caffeine as we get older
But be aware there is only as much risk of cancer as there is if you take the pill, probably less. Cancer has been, and is still being, used by too many ignorant and very ill-informed GPs as a scare tactic and a reason not to offer HRT. And it's out-dated and incorrect information.
Women need to do the research themselves and tell the GP what they want.
There IS an increased risk though however small it might be, and it would be remiss of doctors to not mention this, especially in the case of women with family history of breast and/or ovarian cancer. You are correct though in thinking that a lot of doctors haven't moved beyond the scare stories of the early 00s. All women over 50 are advised to avail of the free Breast check screening, you can check online to see if you're registered.
Oh and don't forget regular smear tests, unless your cervix has been removed, you should still have them to the age of 65. I recently discovered that a friend thought she didn't need them post-menopause.
You're right, and only if already a history.
If only there was a 'one size fits all' solution
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There's no history of either in my family and yet a close family member ended up with endometrial cancer which was worse by being on hrt as it was hormone induced . So yes there is a risk and not just with people who have a history of certain cancers in their family. It's a reason I won't go on HRT now. |
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Great to see this discussed here. My wife has been through the mill.
Took a year for a doctor to agree she was peri then another year trying various Hrt, after displaying all symptoms.
Patch not help, gel not help.
Finally on utrogestan spray and progesterone tablets.
Had to stop progesterone as giving severe stomach cramps.
Recently stopped spray to as boobs have become so heavy, sore and tender.
Seen an improvement since stopping hrt in regard to cramps and sore boobs.
Will monitor symptoms and introduce utrogestan spray if/when sweats reappear.
Thinking I have too high estrogen so trying this.
On pill to regulate periods.
Libido totally gone, randomly makes an appearance but usually nothing.
Not an enjoyable experience, would advise to persist with doctors and get treatment that works for you.
Thanks for giving some where to share with other peri/menopause ladies. |
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"Great to see this discussed here. My wife has been through the mill.
Took a year for a doctor to agree she was peri then another year trying various Hrt, after displaying all symptoms.
Patch not help, gel not help.
Finally on utrogestan spray and progesterone tablets.
Had to stop progesterone as giving severe stomach cramps.
Recently stopped spray to as boobs have become so heavy, sore and tender.
Seen an improvement since stopping hrt in regard to cramps and sore boobs.
Will monitor symptoms and introduce utrogestan spray if/when sweats reappear.
Thinking I have too high estrogen so trying this.
On pill to regulate periods.
Libido totally gone, randomly makes an appearance but usually nothing.
Not an enjoyable experience, would advise to persist with doctors and get treatment that works for you.
Thanks for giving some where to share with other peri/menopause ladies. "
I don't know how easy it is to get Testosterone, but apparently you can 'claim' that the libido has hit the floor, in your case it has. I wonder if that would help.
Anyone else have any experience accessing testosterone? or using it? I saw one woman on Youtube ordered it in from Australia but it was working out £100 for a single tube of ointment. |
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"Great to see this discussed here. My wife has been through the mill.
Took a year for a doctor to agree she was peri then another year trying various Hrt, after displaying all symptoms.
Patch not help, gel not help.
Finally on utrogestan spray and progesterone tablets.
Had to stop progesterone as giving severe stomach cramps.
Recently stopped spray to as boobs have become so heavy, sore and tender.
Seen an improvement since stopping hrt in regard to cramps and sore boobs.
Will monitor symptoms and introduce utrogestan spray if/when sweats reappear.
Thinking I have too high estrogen so trying this.
On pill to regulate periods.
Libido totally gone, randomly makes an appearance but usually nothing.
Not an enjoyable experience, would advise to persist with doctors and get treatment that works for you.
Thanks for giving some where to share with other peri/menopause ladies.
I don't know how easy it is to get Testosterone, but apparently you can 'claim' that the libido has hit the floor, in your case it has. I wonder if that would help.
Anyone else have any experience accessing testosterone? or using it? I saw one woman on Youtube ordered it in from Australia but it was working out £100 for a single tube of ointment. "
Superdrug online sell it |
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Tried testerone gel on prescription but found it was causing a lot of hair growth in that area. Gave it a couple of months but no improvement.
Bloods all OK but show testerone low. Tried various chemist type menopause supplements / vitamins. thank you for your suggestion.
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By *aseylee324Couple 11 weeks ago
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"Tried testerone gel on prescription but found it was causing a lot of hair growth in that area. Gave it a couple of months but no improvement.
Bloods all OK but show testerone low. Tried various chemist type menopause supplements / vitamins. thank you for your suggestion.
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You can vary the site of application to help prevent local hair growth - front of thigh, back of knee, lower abdomen, inner forearm. I've been using it for about 8 months and tbh it's made zero difference to my libido, was worth a try I suppose. |
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By *asual777Man 11 weeks ago
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Given the emotional impact of menopause it would be really useful to hear more about this as a bloke. Do the female posters think the irritability affected relationships , parenting or work ?
On reflection were the boyfriends/husbands/bosses unsupportive ? Maybe somewhat ignorant ? Or was the lack of proper treatment or HRT tweaks from health services central to the strain in these situations ? If menopause symptoms were managed more aggressively could the relationship and work outcomes have been different ?
I have a theory that many a resignation and a separation are in some way impacted upon by menopause . However it’s easy as a Bloke to adopt this attitude as it makes it someone else’s problem . Would be lovely to hear the female perspective on this .
I am also aware that HRT comes with small but significant risks so understand why there may be a reluctance to seek it or prescribe it . |
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By *aseylee324Couple 11 weeks ago
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"Yes, your nurturing hormones dip, and you give less fucks about all the usual nonsense in life.
I would 💯 agree on this 🤣🤣🤣🤣
B x"
Absolutely, you also become less tolerant of other people's bullshit. |
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"Given the emotional impact of menopause it would be really useful to hear more about this as a bloke. Do the female posters think the irritability affected relationships , parenting or work ?
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Disease impacts family, friends, work and lifestyle. Menopause may not be considered a disease but comes with such drastic and debilitating symptoms for some that it obviously becomes uncomfortable/painful.
Anyone who's ever been sick to the extent that they've had to take time off work or even stay in bed should have an understanding of what it's like not to be able to function to their full potential - now make that 2 day disease a permanent situation for a number of months or years even... |
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I am also aware that HRT comes with small but significant risks so understand why there may be a reluctance to seek it or prescribe it . "
HRT has a small increased risk of breast cancer but other things including Birth Control Pill has a greater risk and those things are handed out like sweets. A significant risk of Breast Cancer is obesity and many women carry even a little weight. Also casting no stones here...would be a little rich coming from me.
HRT has some health benefits, especially for decreased risk of Dementia and Alzeimers, and osteoporosis as well.
Dr Lisa Mosconi has a lot of info about menopause and brain health. Look her up on YouTube |
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"Given the emotional impact of menopause it would be really useful to hear more about this as a bloke. Do the female posters think the irritability affected relationships , parenting or work ?
On reflection were the boyfriends/husbands/bosses unsupportive ? Maybe somewhat ignorant ? Or was the lack of proper treatment or HRT tweaks from health services central to the strain in these situations ? If menopause symptoms were managed more aggressively could the relationship and work outcomes have been different ?
I have a theory that many a resignation and a separation are in some way impacted upon by menopause . However it’s easy as a Bloke to adopt this attitude as it makes it someone else’s problem . Would be lovely to hear the female perspective on this .
I am also aware that HRT comes with small but significant risks so understand why there may be a reluctance to seek it or prescribe it . "
This is discussed in Davina McCauls book. The amount of women who literally resigned from very high powered jibs in the uk , from talking to friends and family the stress the menopause has put on them and the relationships and work etc is unreal.
There thankfully seems to be a shift away from.docs just prescribing anti depressants as a solution |
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"Yes, your nurturing hormones dip, and you give less fucks about all the usual nonsense in life.
I would 💯 agree on this 🤣🤣🤣🤣
B x
Absolutely, you also become less tolerant of other people's bullshit."
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