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By *ayK321 OP Man 26 weeks ago
dublin |
Had an interesting chat yesterday with two other friends both female, regarding what does cheating says about someone, or even if it does says something at all. And if we would judge someone or not knowing that they do it.
Would you all give your opinion on this please?
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Gather your pitchforks and burning torches!!!
And all the married cheating bastards and bitches run for your lives!!
Here comes the unruly mob to cast aspersions on people that aren't in your situation!!!
Did I get it right??? |
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By *ayK321 OP Man 26 weeks ago
dublin |
Did even knew this ever was a topic in here was just one of them brought the subject of judging other people for their life decisions and how much we actually would do it and since this is a swingers website I brought this specific part in here, genuinely looking for genuine answers that was all, maybe here is not the place for this sort of topics. My bad |
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"Did even knew this ever was a topic in here was just one of them brought the subject of judging other people for their life decisions and how much we actually would do it and since this is a swingers website I brought this specific part in here, genuinely looking for genuine answers that was all, maybe here is not the place for this sort of topics. My bad "
Wouldn't really generalise it as people judging others for life choices it's more of a look at ones character basically what kinda person they are. |
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By *ayK321 OP Man 26 weeks ago
dublin |
When this came up on the convo yesterday it was answered by saying that first we don’t know what’s going on in the relationship and that we can all say that if you’re not happy you can just leave but we all know there’s a lot of other things like, family, financial struggle, mental struggles and all that make it harder and up until here I agree with this but it ain’t always that easy.
Not saying that because of it you should cheat, that’s not what I’m saying. |
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By *lueLotusWoman 26 weeks ago
the wilderness |
For me, if someone is trying to get with me and cheating they're asking me to join them in a very dangerous game where a lot of people could get hurt. It also tells me they don't have the honour and integrity I would expect from anyone I'd consider being intimate with. I wouldn't be able to trust a single thing they said. Also there's the risk of being outed as the 'other woman' with a heartbroken wife or girlfriend and their family looking to murder me. Absolutely no. I understand people have their reasons and I sympathise with those who see no other option but it's still a no way for me. |
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"For me, if someone is trying to get with me and cheating they're asking me to join them in a very dangerous game where a lot of people could get hurt. It also tells me they don't have the honour and integrity I would expect from anyone I'd consider being intimate with. I wouldn't be able to trust a single thing they said. Also there's the risk of being outed as the 'other woman' with a heartbroken wife or girlfriend and their family looking to murder me. Absolutely no. I understand people have their reasons and I sympathise with those who see no other option but it's still a no way for me. "
Maybe state that on your profile then?? |
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By *lueLotusWoman 26 weeks ago
the wilderness |
"For me, if someone is trying to get with me and cheating they're asking me to join them in a very dangerous game where a lot of people could get hurt. It also tells me they don't have the honour and integrity I would expect from anyone I'd consider being intimate with. I wouldn't be able to trust a single thing they said. Also there's the risk of being outed as the 'other woman' with a heartbroken wife or girlfriend and their family looking to murder me. Absolutely no. I understand people have their reasons and I sympathise with those who see no other option but it's still a no way for me.
Maybe state that on your profile then??"
Maybe don't presume to tell me what to do. |
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"For me, if someone is trying to get with me and cheating they're asking me to join them in a very dangerous game where a lot of people could get hurt. It also tells me they don't have the honour and integrity I would expect from anyone I'd consider being intimate with. I wouldn't be able to trust a single thing they said. Also there's the risk of being outed as the 'other woman' with a heartbroken wife or girlfriend and their family looking to murder me. Absolutely no. I understand people have their reasons and I sympathise with those who see no other option but it's still a no way for me.
Maybe state that on your profile then??
Maybe don't presume to tell me what to do. "
Its only a maybe, nothing else!
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By *lueLotusWoman 26 weeks ago
the wilderness |
"For me, if someone is trying to get with me and cheating they're asking me to join them in a very dangerous game where a lot of people could get hurt. It also tells me they don't have the honour and integrity I would expect from anyone I'd consider being intimate with. I wouldn't be able to trust a single thing they said. Also there's the risk of being outed as the 'other woman' with a heartbroken wife or girlfriend and their family looking to murder me. Absolutely no. I understand people have their reasons and I sympathise with those who see no other option but it's still a no way for me.
Maybe state that on your profile then??
Maybe don't presume to tell me what to do.
Its only a maybe, nothing else!
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Then why the '??'
I don't put it on my profile because I don't want guys editing their bios accordingly to message me. I'd rather know up front, and I appreciate the people who are honest about it in their bios. |
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"For me, if someone is trying to get with me and cheating they're asking me to join them in a very dangerous game where a lot of people could get hurt. It also tells me they don't have the honour and integrity I would expect from anyone I'd consider being intimate with. I wouldn't be able to trust a single thing they said. Also there's the risk of being outed as the 'other woman' with a heartbroken wife or girlfriend and their family looking to murder me. Absolutely no. I understand people have their reasons and I sympathise with those who see no other option but it's still a no way for me.
Maybe state that on your profile then??
Maybe don't presume to tell me what to do.
Its only a maybe, nothing else!
Then why the '??'
I don't put it on my profile because I don't want guys editing their bios accordingly to message me. I'd rather know up front, and I appreciate the people who are honest about it in their bios. "
Exactly, who cares |
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By *om TangoMan 26 weeks ago
aughnacloy monaghan area |
The way I look at it is. If the garden shed roof is nailed down right it’s going to blow into someone else’s garden. We all have kinks and if that kink isn’t getting fulfilled at home of course that person maybe want to get it elsewhere. There is many reasons why someone might cheat so therefore I don’t judge. In my pass marriage I wasn’t getting anything. Not even a kiss. Separate bedrooms and I definitely got to the stage where I needed to feel like a real man. But I didn’t cheat but knew I was going to. So I sat the ex wife down and told her I was too young to be feeling like someone’s rubbish fired into the corner and that I was ending the marriage and getting myself out there. So I’ve recycled that rubbish that was fired into the corner and thankfully feeling like a real man now. I know many’s a person that has and still is cheating. I don’t judge them. I’ve a friend whose wife is cheating. I’m not telling him. I know he’s a cunt to her. I’ve listened to how he talks to her. She obviously needs to feel loved and needed so goes elsewhere for that. Good luck to her |
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"When this came up on the convo yesterday it was answered by saying that first we don’t know what’s going on in the relationship and that we can all say that if you’re not happy you can just leave but we all know there’s a lot of other things like, family, financial struggle, mental struggles and all that make it harder and up until here I agree with this but it ain’t always that easy.
Not saying that because of it you should cheat, that’s not what I’m saying."
There is a step before cheating. Honesty and communication with your life partner. Life isn't black and white. |
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There are more than enough single, or consensually non-monogrammed people on the site. So those of us who aren't cheating don't need to deal with that drama, and the cheaters are welcome to each other.
There are more than enough good reasons not to engage with cheaters, judgement aside.
- unable to meet you in public for fear of seeing someone they know.
- less likely to engage in STI testing (leaves a trail for their spouse to find)
- More likely to be flaky and cancel plans to hide their actions from a spouse
- less communicative and responsive (can't text you when they are home with splice)
- You're more likely to end up with an angry spouse knocking on your door or outing you on social media when they find out.
Even if you don't morally object.
No reason to engage in that drama if you can avoid it. |
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"There are more than enough single, or consensually non-monogrammed people on the site. So those of us who aren't cheating don't need to deal with that drama, and the cheaters are welcome to each other.
There are more than enough good reasons not to engage with cheaters, judgement aside.
- unable to meet you in public for fear of seeing someone they know.
- less likely to engage in STI testing (leaves a trail for their spouse to find)
- More likely to be flaky and cancel plans to hide their actions from a spouse
- less communicative and responsive (can't text you when they are home with splice)
- You're more likely to end up with an angry spouse knocking on your door or outing you on social media when they find out.
Even if you don't morally object.
No reason to engage in that drama if you can avoid it."
You ll always be hosting them, on their schedule.
They ll go radio silent on you, when it suits them.
They ll prioritise their drama llama lives. |
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"Did even knew this ever was a topic in here was just one of them brought the subject of judging other people for their life decisions and how much we actually would do it and since this is a swingers website I brought this specific part in here, genuinely looking for genuine answers that was all, maybe here is not the place for this sort of topics. My bad "
perfect reply |
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By *ohnFKMan 26 weeks ago
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"Did even knew this ever was a topic in here was just one of them brought the subject of judging other people for their life decisions and how much we actually would do it and since this is a swingers website I brought this specific part in here, genuinely looking for genuine answers that was all, maybe here is not the place for this sort of topics. My bad
perfect reply "
'Perfect'?
I dunno 🤔.
Seemed like a very, very long sentence to me🙈. |
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By *aid backMan 26 weeks ago
by a lake with my rod out |
Everything can be justified but it doesn't make it right. Israel can justify slaughtering 40k civilians but it still isn't right.
So maybe your partner isn't doing it for you anymore but it still doesn't make cheating right. |
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"Everything can be justified but it doesn't make it right. Israel can justify slaughtering 40k civilians but it still isn't right.
So maybe your partner isn't doing it for you anymore but it still doesn't make cheating right."
This… 💯💯 |
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"For me, if someone is trying to get with me and cheating they're asking me to join them in a very dangerous game where a lot of people could get hurt. It also tells me they don't have the honour and integrity I would expect from anyone I'd consider being intimate with. I wouldn't be able to trust a single thing they said. Also there's the risk of being outed as the 'other woman' with a heartbroken wife or girlfriend and their family looking to murder me. Absolutely no. I understand people have their reasons and I sympathise with those who see no other option but it's still a no way for me. "
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I would offer her ^ weekend snacks and put aside my immoral morals. |
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By *panishRebelMan 26 weeks ago
Alicante Spain, and Cork City Ireland |
Tolerance goes two ways. Even to those ways you don't like. If it's not for them then it's not for them.
Having been through a life before divorce, faithful, despite the provocation I can sympathise with cheating (to a certain degree). However to get upset with others who won't get involved with you because you are already involved, is just selfish and says a lot about those who think it's fine but get upset that others don't. |
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Its been happening since the dawn of time. Finding love, comfort , security, sex, spreading our seed, the biological urge go procreate. Call it cheating, if you like.
Esther Perel talks very eloquently on the subject,
read also Sex at Dawn, am amazing examination of human sexual behaviour.
Among the long list of human frailties, and the horrible things we can get up to, " cheating" would be low down on my list. There are much worse things we can do to each other as a species.
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By *anUTV/TS 25 weeks ago
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I don't judge anyone who's here doing whatever if they're attached I won't meet them though.
I prefer to meet a couple who are both happy to play together with me, but attached guys nooo
They're too figgity, awkward and can't settle and as well I just don't want to be involved in a triangle I believe in karma and want nothing to do with it.
They also want everything on their terms and dictate the time etc
I prefer solo guy's who are spontaneous and free
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By *dfabMan 25 weeks ago
Dunboyne |
Does the same judgement happen in clubs in cap d'agde/Amsterdam/ Berlin/ London/ Dublin?
I suspect not. If you like the look and the banter, I'm guessing you aren't querying their marital status.
Yes I know you'll often meet couples but are you going to tell me you always question the marital status of "singles" you meet?
Some may but most don't and how would you know anyway.
So maybe less of the judgement folks.
Oh and yes, my marital status is clearly called out on my profile, to save you checking, and I've never taken off my wedding ring other than for an MRI |
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"Its been happening since the dawn of time. Finding love, comfort , security, sex, spreading our seed, the biological urge go procreate. Call it cheating, if you like.
Esther Perel talks very eloquently on the subject,
read also Sex at Dawn, am amazing examination of human sexual behaviour.
Among the long list of human frailties, and the horrible things we can get up to, " cheating" would be low down on my list. There are much worse things we can do to each other as a species.
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I wonder is cheating as low down on the wife's list as it is on yours. |
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So maybe less of the judgement folks.
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I try not to comment on these, but I just ... can't... help it sometimes
I've seen no judgement on this thread. What I've seen is people indicating their preference and their reasoning. Everyone is entitled to have preferences, as do cheaters when for example their preference is to meet other cheaters.
Why are cheaters so upset about being judged? It's brought up in every cheating thread. Curious as to why you care what strangers think? Is it all part of the guilt and is it really worth it?
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Perhaps because all people in that situation are tarred with the same brush, and called cheaters?
She decides she won't have any more sex with him, and it's been eight years.
He tries to approach her about it at least once every 2, 3 months, suggests options, tries to come up with a compromise, offer solutions, figure something out that will work.
Nah, she won't have him, but she won't let him seek solutions to alleviate the solution. She won't let others have him, or have him meet his needs.
So you tell me, who is cheating on whom here?
It's OK, I don't need to hear the answer.
And if someone suggests he just sucks it up or get divorced, let me offer this biologically inspired metaphor
For every month a man is forced to suffer the lack of release, the woman should put a plug up there when her period starts, and keep it in.
I apologise for being gross. I am probably gonna be banned now.
Anyway, I hope being as blunt and graphic like this wakes some people up to the realities of life, and naysayers about men's sexual health, all sort of cancers, etc...
Please do not respond back to this post. |
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By *panishRebelMan 25 weeks ago
Alicante Spain, and Cork City Ireland |
Asking people not to reply at the end! Really! This is a public forum within Fab!
"Perhaps because all people in that situation are tarred with the same brush, and called cheaters?
She decides she won't have any more sex with him, and it's been eight years.
He tries to approach her about it at least once every 2, 3 months, suggests options, tries to come up with a compromise, offer solutions, figure something out that will work.
Nah, she won't have him, but she won't let him seek solutions to alleviate the solution. She won't let others have him, or have him meet his needs.
So you tell me, who is cheating on whom here?
It's OK, I don't need to hear the answer.
And if someone suggests he just sucks it up or get divorced, let me offer this biologically inspired metaphor
For every month a man is forced to suffer the lack of release, the woman should put a plug up there when her period starts, and keep it in.
I apologise for being gross. I am probably gonna be banned now.
Anyway, I hope being as blunt and graphic like this wakes some people up to the realities of life, and naysayers about men's sexual health, all sort of cancers, etc...
Please do not respond back to this post. "
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"For me, if someone is trying to get with me and cheating they're asking me to join them in a very dangerous game where a lot of people could get hurt. It also tells me they don't have the honour and integrity I would expect from anyone I'd consider being intimate with. I wouldn't be able to trust a single thing they said. Also there's the risk of being outed as the 'other woman' with a heartbroken wife or girlfriend and their family looking to murder me. Absolutely no. I understand people have their reasons and I sympathise with those who see no other option but it's still a no way for me. "
This... |
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"Perhaps because all people in that situation are tarred with the same brush, and called cheaters?
She decides she won't have any more sex with him, and it's been eight years.
He tries to approach her about it at least once every 2, 3 months, suggests options, tries to come up with a compromise, offer solutions, figure something out that will work.
Nah, she won't have him, but she won't let him seek solutions to alleviate the solution. She won't let others have him, or have him meet his needs.
So you tell me, who is cheating on whom here?
It's OK, I don't need to hear the answer.
And if someone suggests he just sucks it up or get divorced, let me offer this biologically inspired metaphor
For every month a man is forced to suffer the lack of release, the woman should put a plug up there when her period starts, and keep it in.
I apologise for being gross. I am probably gonna be banned now.
Anyway, I hope being as blunt and graphic like this wakes some people up to the realities of life, and naysayers about men's sexual health, all sort of cancers, etc...
Please do not respond back to this post. "
Suggest you review your profile, there is nothing modern day or gentleman about this. |
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"Perhaps because all people in that situation are tarred with the same brush, and called cheaters?
She decides she won't have any more sex with him, and it's been eight years.
He tries to approach her about it at least once every 2, 3 months, suggests options, tries to come up with a compromise, offer solutions, figure something out that will work.
Nah, she won't have him, but she won't let him seek solutions to alleviate the solution. She won't let others have him, or have him meet his needs.
So you tell me, who is cheating on whom here?
It's OK, I don't need to hear the answer.
And if someone suggests he just sucks it up or get divorced, let me offer this biologically inspired metaphor
For every month a man is forced to suffer the lack of release, the woman should put a plug up there when her period starts, and keep it in.
I apologise for being gross. I am probably gonna be banned now.
Anyway, I hope being as blunt and graphic like this wakes some people up to the realities of life, and naysayers about men's sexual health, all sort of cancers, etc...
Please do not respond back to this post. "
Say what now now?
Nobody's stopping you from having release. Have a wank ffs. Then once you've done that, away and read up on some basic biology. Hopefully you'll have a clear enough head then to understand ejaculation is not comparable to menstruation and since not all women actually have periods, your comparison is even more nonsensical. |
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"Tolerance goes two ways. Even to those ways you don't like. If it's not for them then it's not for them.
Having been through a life before divorce, faithful, despite the provocation I can sympathise with cheating (to a certain degree). However to get upset with others who won't get involved with you because you are already involved, is just selfish and says a lot about those who think it's fine but get upset that others don't."
Yes to this. I've had this. More than one occasion where the man is married and can't/doesn't understand why I'm bothered by it. The other one wanted a prize (assuming my pussy) because he was honest about having a wife and others wouldn't be! |
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By (user no longer on site) 25 weeks ago
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We both have access to this account plus I have my own! We can play seperate! But that's it! Fun as a single endeavour, but both of us will know about it and discuss before & after. Communication & fairness is important! Outside that it's cheating. |
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"Perhaps because all people in that situation are tarred with the same brush, and called cheaters?
She decides she won't have any more sex with him, and it's been eight years.
He tries to approach her about it at least once every 2, 3 months, suggests options, tries to come up with a compromise, offer solutions, figure something out that will work.
Nah, she won't have him, but she won't let him seek solutions to alleviate the solution. She won't let others have him, or have him meet his needs.
So you tell me, who is cheating on whom here?
It's OK, I don't need to hear the answer.
And if someone suggests he just sucks it up or get divorced, let me offer this biologically inspired metaphor
For every month a man is forced to suffer the lack of release, the woman should put a plug up there when her period starts, and keep it in.
I apologise for being gross. I am probably gonna be banned now.
Anyway, I hope being as blunt and graphic like this wakes some people up to the realities of life, and naysayers about men's sexual health, all sort of cancers, etc...
Please do not respond back to this post. "
A lot of people will adding to their private notes. Making such comments whether in jest or seriousness will not help you on here. |
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"Perhaps because all people in that situation are tarred with the same brush, and called cheaters?
She decides she won't have any more sex with him, and it's been eight years.
He tries to approach her about it at least once every 2, 3 months, suggests options, tries to come up with a compromise, offer solutions, figure something out that will work.
Nah, she won't have him, but she won't let him seek solutions to alleviate the solution. She won't let others have him, or have him meet his needs.
So you tell me, who is cheating on whom here?
It's OK, I don't need to hear the answer.
And if someone suggests he just sucks it up or get divorced, let me offer this biologically inspired metaphor
For every month a man is forced to suffer the lack of release, the woman should put a plug up there when her period starts, and keep it in.
I apologise for being gross. I am probably gonna be banned now.
Anyway, I hope being as blunt and graphic like this wakes some people up to the realities of life, and naysayers about men's sexual health, all sort of cancers, etc...
Please do not respond back to this post.
A lot of people will adding to their private notes. Making such comments whether in jest or seriousness will not help you on here."
Copy and paste is a grand thing 😋 |
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"Perhaps because all people in that situation are tarred with the same brush, and called cheaters?
She decides she won't have any more sex with him, and it's been eight years.
He tries to approach her about it at least once every 2, 3 months, suggests options, tries to come up with a compromise, offer solutions, figure something out that will work.
Nah, she won't have him, but she won't let him seek solutions to alleviate the solution. She won't let others have him, or have him meet his needs.
So you tell me, who is cheating on whom here?
It's OK, I don't need to hear the answer.
And if someone suggests he just sucks it up or get divorced, let me offer this biologically inspired metaphor
For every month a man is forced to suffer the lack of release, the woman should put a plug up there when her period starts, and keep it in.
I apologise for being gross. I am probably gonna be banned now.
Anyway, I hope being as blunt and graphic like this wakes some people up to the realities of life, and naysayers about men's sexual health, all sort of cancers, etc...
Please do not respond back to this post.
A lot of people will adding to their private notes. Making such comments whether in jest or seriousness will not help you on here.
Copy and paste is a grand thing 😋"
Hahahaha!!
The period comment lost me. I do have sympathy for those relationships where one partner no longer wants sex and feel that it can be quite complex. |
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The period comment lost me. I do have sympathy for those relationships where one partner no longer wants sex and feel that it can be quite complex. "
Relationships can be complex blaming all your actions on your supposed "life partner" on a public forum that they have no knowledge or access to not so much |
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The period comment lost me. I do have sympathy for those relationships where one partner no longer wants sex and feel that it can be quite complex.
Relationships can be complex blaming all your actions on your supposed "life partner" on a public forum that they have no knowledge or access to not so much"
It's definitely easy to judge on the fact that there are spouses who have no clue but a bunch of strangers do.
I have lots of opinions on cheating but just don't think there's any point in trying to articulating them. I will say that I don't agree with it all. But I'm someone who has no problem communicating my feelings and wouldn't allow life circumstances to get in the way of doing what's right by another person. |
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By *ohnFKMan 25 weeks ago
Where the Streets Have No Name |
"Perhaps because all people in that situation are tarred with the same brush, and called cheaters?
She decides she won't have any more sex with him, and it's been eight years.
He tries to approach her about it at least once every 2, 3 months, suggests options, tries to come up with a compromise, offer solutions, figure something out that will work.
Nah, she won't have him, but she won't let him seek solutions to alleviate the solution. She won't let others have him, or have him meet his needs.
So you tell me, who is cheating on whom here?
It's OK, I don't need to hear the answer.
And if someone suggests he just sucks it up or get divorced, let me offer this biologically inspired metaphor
For every month a man is forced to suffer the lack of release, the woman should put a plug up there when her period starts, and keep it in.
I apologise for being gross. I am probably gonna be banned now.
Anyway, I hope being as blunt and graphic like this wakes some people up to the realities of life, and naysayers about men's sexual health, all sort of cancers, etc...
Please do not respond back to this post. "
Lots of things I don't agree with here but for me, remarkably, the most offensive bit was
'Please do not respond back to this post' 😬
Do you think you have some entitlement to the 'last word', in this, or in any open forum?
Nope. No way... pretty sure that is not how this works |
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By (user no longer on site) 25 weeks ago
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Its not always as simple as just leaving, i am glad others realise that there is far more to it, we all have our reasons for being here, if you are here with your partner or not here with your partner, i applaud you, at least you are here. Its not right to judge without all the facts... |
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By *dfabMan 25 weeks ago
Dunboyne |
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So maybe less of the judgement folks.
I try not to comment on these, but I just ... can't... help it sometimes
I've seen no judgement on this thread. What I've seen is people indicating their preference and their reasoning. Everyone is entitled to have preferences, as do cheaters when for example their preference is to meet other cheaters.
Why are cheaters so upset about being judged? It's brought up in every cheating thread. Curious as to why you care what strangers think? Is it all part of the guilt and is it really worth it?
Mrs."
Trust me, I'm not in any way ever worried about what anyone thinks about me, other than my kids.
I don't do guilt.
I make my choices and live with whatever they may bring.
No time for second guessing.
I do whatever I do and I have my reasons for doing so.
I don't give a flying F about others judgement on here, as if they're truly living it, it's really each and everyone for themselves.
Until they all realise that, the judgement continues |
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"Perhaps because all people in that situation are tarred with the same brush, and called cheaters?
She decides she won't have any more sex with him, and it's been eight years.
He tries to approach her about it at least once every 2, 3 months, suggests options, tries to come up with a compromise, offer solutions, figure something out that will work.
Nah, she won't have him, but she won't let him seek solutions to alleviate the solution. She won't let others have him, or have him meet his needs.
So you tell me, who is cheating on whom here?
It's OK, I don't need to hear the answer.
And if someone suggests he just sucks it up or get divorced, let me offer this biologically inspired metaphor
For every month a man is forced to suffer the lack of release, the woman should put a plug up there when her period starts, and keep it in.
I apologise for being gross. I am probably gonna be banned now.
Anyway, I hope being as blunt and graphic like this wakes some people up to the realities of life, and naysayers about men's sexual health, all sort of cancers, etc...
Please do not respond back to this post.
A lot of people will adding to their private notes. Making such comments whether in jest or seriousness will not help you on here.
Copy and paste is a grand thing 😋"
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For me, an emotionally mature and drama free married woman as a FWB is ideal, but not if there's deception involved. That can blow up at any stage and inasmuch as she might cheat anyway, I don't want to be associated with that.
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I think all relationships get stale, throw a few kids into the mix and the drudgery of life and endless childminding takes its toll. It's hard to maintain consistent sexual chemistry.
Freedom and sexual lightheartedness might come back when the bulk of the childminding is over, but for lots of people, that's when the female half is hitting midlife and more hormonal upheaval.
I m starting to think swinger relationships have a lot going for them. Complicity, a shared secret, wanting to be sexy. Freedom to enjoy perusing other people. Something to chat about, plan meets and mischief.
I couldn't waste my life trapped in an unfulfilling relationship, but the flip side of that is being single means you don't have the safety net of a combined anything (income, pension, house expenses). Freedom comes at a high price. I m willing to pay it, so that I don't live the tense dead bed life.
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The period comment lol. Notes made. Some choice people on here.
People have been celibate for years at a time and nobody died. After widowhood I was one of them.
Nobody is 'entitled' to regular sex. |
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"The period comment lol. Notes made. Some choice people on here.
People have been celibate for years at a time and nobody died. After widowhood I was one of them.
Nobody is 'entitled' to regular sex. "
That guy thinks women are ports that men plug into to drain their balls. |
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"The period comment lol. Notes made. Some choice people on here.
People have been celibate for years at a time and nobody died. After widowhood I was one of them.
Nobody is 'entitled' to regular sex.
That guy thinks women are ports that men plug into to drain their balls. "
Yeah and that's what we women are for. |
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"The period comment lol. Notes made. Some choice people on here.
People have been celibate for years at a time and nobody died. After widowhood I was one of them.
Nobody is 'entitled' to regular sex.
That guy thinks women are ports that men plug into to drain their balls. "
There could be a business opportunity in that.
"Hey Dublin Bus, you know those USB ports you currently have on the back of the bus seats? I have an idea for upgrading them." |
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"Had an interesting chat yesterday with two other friends both female, regarding what does cheating says about someone, or even if it does says something at all. And if we would judge someone or not knowing that they do it.
Would you all give your opinion on this please?
Thanks "
It says different things to different people, some strong opinions and some silly stuff too mentioned above.
I've been on both sides at different times and agree it's better discussed before rather than later. The excitement of it can be great but hurting someone you care about is never good. |
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So maybe less of the judgement folks.
I try not to comment on these, but I just ... can't... help it sometimes
I've seen no judgement on this thread. What I've seen is people indicating their preference and their reasoning. Everyone is entitled to have preferences, as do cheaters when for example their preference is to meet other cheaters.
Why are cheaters so upset about being judged? It's brought up in every cheating thread. Curious as to why you care what strangers think? Is it all part of the guilt and is it really worth it?
Mrs.
Trust me, I'm not in any way ever worried about what anyone thinks about me, other than my kids.
I don't do guilt.
I make my choices and live with whatever they may bring.
No time for second guessing.
I do whatever I do and I have my reasons for doing so.
I don't give a flying F about others judgement on here, as if they're truly living it, it's really each and everyone for themselves.
Until they all realise that, the judgement continues "
Well then let it and just do your own thing
But again, I've seen no judgement on this thread. Only people with a preference not to get involved with cheaters. There is a difference, but cheaters choose to hit back because presumably it makes them feel better about what they are doing. |
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"The period comment lol. Notes made. Some choice people on here.
People have been celibate for years at a time and nobody died. After widowhood I was one of them.
Nobody is 'entitled' to regular sex. "
Yes! Especially the last line!! |
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"Someone who practices deception without guilt or remorse is pretty much the definition of a sociopath
Guess there's a lot here then???
I suspect most are riddled with guilt. I know I was."
Speaking of riddled does everyone let their other half's know that they are no longer in a monogamous relationship and should get tested more regularly |
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"Someone who practices deception without guilt or remorse is pretty much the definition of a sociopath
Guess there's a lot here then???
I suspect most are riddled with guilt. I know I was.
Speaking of riddled does everyone let their other half's know that they are no longer in a monogamous relationship and should get tested more regularly "
One of the reasons that men give on here is the complete lack of sex at home,sometimes for years so I doubt if anyone tells the partner who doesn't have sex with them anyway |
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"Someone who practices deception without guilt or remorse is pretty much the definition of a sociopath
Guess there's a lot here then???
I suspect most are riddled with guilt. I know I was.
Speaking of riddled does everyone let their other half's know that they are no longer in a monogamous relationship and should get tested more regularly
One of the reasons that men give on here is the complete lack of sex at home,sometimes for years so I doubt if anyone tells the partner who doesn't have sex with them anyway "
It being one of the reasons given doesn't mean it's factual.
They are lying to their spouse which doesn't ever fill me with confidence that I am getting an accurate depiction of the relationship.
And taking it on fave value, even if its once or twice a year..
What if the other person does try to initiate or rekindle a sexual relationship |
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"Someone who practices deception without guilt or remorse is pretty much the definition of a sociopath "
Just to be pedantic..
One swallow doesn't make summer and one possible indicator doesn't make a sociopath.
While a lack of guilt may be one of the symptoms of the condition referred to as sociopathy, nobody would be judged to be a "sociopath" based on that one symptom. |
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By *og-ManMan 25 weeks ago
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True but no harm as long as it doesn't decend into outright hostility
Cheating is wrong ....full stop
Having sex with other people while married is wrong according to your religion ( even if you're not a practicing whatever)
Just be honest with the people you're having sex with so they can decide if they will have sex with you according to their principles and don't worry about the 99.99% of people that you're not going to have sex with
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This topic comes up (from a different angle) on another forum I read.
While no one is entitled to sex, it's also not OK for your sexual partner to consistently withold sex and intimacy forever. Couples therapy is the way to go. If the other half won't go, then go yourself and unpack your feelings and options. Radical, respectful honesty with the other half is needed. |
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In some cases a person is in a healthy relationship and just wants to be promiscuous. They're cheating.
In other cases the relationship is fractured. If one member no longer shows affection or intimacy towards the other, then they are the problem. If that member is not willing to cooperate with getting help to rebuild the relationship. They are the problem.
If the relationship can't be ended by one partner due to commitments like children, home, financials and the other won't accept its over while doing nothing to protect it...I'd find it difficult to class someone in that situation as a cheater.
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"These thread's never go well.
True but no harm as long as it doesn't decend into outright hostility
Cheating is wrong ....full stop
Having sex with other people while married is wrong according to your religion ( even if you're not a practicing whatever)
Just be honest with the people you're having sex with so they can decide if they will have sex with you according to their principles and don't worry about the 99.99% of people that you're not going to have sex with
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Not everyone has a religion, and some practice ethical non monogamy and so are able to live in this lifestyle completely guilt free (without being sociopaths )
I totally agree though about being up front about it is the best route so people can make a decision for themselves to be involved or not... but as someone said earlier the reliability and honesty of cheaters is at the very least questionable. |
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"This topic comes up (from a different angle) on another forum I read.
While no one is entitled to sex, it's also not OK for your sexual partner to consistently withold sex and intimacy forever. Couples therapy is the way to go. If the other half won't go, then go yourself and unpack your feelings and options. Radical, respectful honesty with the other half is needed. "
Totally agree |
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"This topic comes up (from a different angle) on another forum I read.
While no one is entitled to sex, it's also not OK for your sexual partner to consistently withold sex and intimacy forever. Couples therapy is the way to go. If the other half won't go, then go yourself and unpack your feelings and options. Radical, respectful honesty with the other half is needed. "
Most definitely!! I've been there for almost 3 years so I ended up on here,now I was caught but not what you think I'd tried to arrange something with a woman who turned out she knew who I was,ended up trying to get money outta me r she'd tell🙄well needless to say I am now divorced,so not every scenario is the same |
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"This topic comes up (from a different angle) on another forum I read.
While no one is entitled to sex, it's also not OK for your sexual partner to consistently withold sex and intimacy forever. Couples therapy is the way to go. If the other half won't go, then go yourself and unpack your feelings and options. Radical, respectful honesty with the other half is needed.
Most definitely!! I've been there for almost 3 years so I ended up on here,now I was caught but not what you think I'd tried to arrange something with a woman who turned out she knew who I was,ended up trying to get money outta me r she'd tell🙄well needless to say I am now divorced,so not every scenario is the same" can I ask a question? I know your divorced and the heartache of going through it. Are you happy now your are divorced..also thst woman was disgusting to get money fron you |
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"This topic comes up (from a different angle) on another forum I read.
While no one is entitled to sex, it's also not OK for your sexual partner to consistently withold sex and intimacy forever. Couples therapy is the way to go. If the other half won't go, then go yourself and unpack your feelings and options. Radical, respectful honesty with the other half is needed.
Most definitely!! I've been there for almost 3 years so I ended up on here,now I was caught but not what you think I'd tried to arrange something with a woman who turned out she knew who I was,ended up trying to get money outta me r she'd tell🙄well needless to say I am now divorced,so not every scenario is the samecan I ask a question? I know your divorced and the heartache of going through it. Are you happy now your are divorced..also thst woman was disgusting to get money fron you "
Tbh with you it was over for a few years and was probably the push that was needed,was it worth it Yes n No
Yes I'm now happy after a long struggle
No as none of my children speak to me anymore |
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"This topic comes up (from a different angle) on another forum I read.
While no one is entitled to sex, it's also not OK for your sexual partner to consistently withold sex and intimacy forever. Couples therapy is the way to go. If the other half won't go, then go yourself and unpack your feelings and options. Radical, respectful honesty with the other half is needed.
Most definitely!! I've been there for almost 3 years so I ended up on here,now I was caught but not what you think I'd tried to arrange something with a woman who turned out she knew who I was,ended up trying to get money outta me r she'd tell🙄well needless to say I am now divorced,so not every scenario is the samecan I ask a question? I know your divorced and the heartache of going through it. Are you happy now your are divorced..also thst woman was disgusting to get money fron you
Tbh with you it was over for a few years and was probably the push that was needed,was it worth it Yes n No
Yes I'm now happy after a long struggle
No as none of my children speak to me anymore " ohhh I'm sorry to hear bout your children, hopefully in time they will make contact times a healer |
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"This topic comes up (from a different angle) on another forum I read.
While no one is entitled to sex, it's also not OK for your sexual partner to consistently withold sex and intimacy forever. Couples therapy is the way to go. If the other half won't go, then go yourself and unpack your feelings and options. Radical, respectful honesty with the other half is needed.
Most definitely!! I've been there for almost 3 years so I ended up on here,now I was caught but not what you think I'd tried to arrange something with a woman who turned out she knew who I was,ended up trying to get money outta me r she'd tell🙄well needless to say I am now divorced,so not every scenario is the samecan I ask a question? I know your divorced and the heartache of going through it. Are you happy now your are divorced..also thst woman was disgusting to get money fron you
Tbh with you it was over for a few years and was probably the push that was needed,was it worth it Yes n No
Yes I'm now happy after a long struggle
No as none of my children speak to me anymore ohhh I'm sorry to hear bout your children, hopefully in time they will make contact times a healer "
Yeah I believe in that as well so Hopefully 🤞 sorry for the sad story lol x |
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"This topic comes up (from a different angle) on another forum I read.
While no one is entitled to sex, it's also not OK for your sexual partner to consistently withold sex and intimacy forever. Couples therapy is the way to go. If the other half won't go, then go yourself and unpack your feelings and options. Radical, respectful honesty with the other half is needed.
Most definitely!! I've been there for almost 3 years so I ended up on here,now I was caught but not what you think I'd tried to arrange something with a woman who turned out she knew who I was,ended up trying to get money outta me r she'd tell🙄well needless to say I am now divorced,so not every scenario is the samecan I ask a question? I know your divorced and the heartache of going through it. Are you happy now your are divorced..also thst woman was disgusting to get money fron you
Tbh with you it was over for a few years and was probably the push that was needed,was it worth it Yes n No
Yes I'm now happy after a long struggle
No as none of my children speak to me anymore "
I'm so sorry to hear this. My exwifes father separated from her mother after he had an affair, and it took a few years for her to forgive her dad, but she did in the end and they have a great relationship now. I hope given time your kids will forgive you also. |
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"This topic comes up (from a different angle) on another forum I read.
While no one is entitled to sex, it's also not OK for your sexual partner to consistently withold sex and intimacy forever. Couples therapy is the way to go. If the other half won't go, then go yourself and unpack your feelings and options. Radical, respectful honesty with the other half is needed.
Most definitely!! I've been there for almost 3 years so I ended up on here,now I was caught but not what you think I'd tried to arrange something with a woman who turned out she knew who I was,ended up trying to get money outta me r she'd tell🙄well needless to say I am now divorced,so not every scenario is the samecan I ask a question? I know your divorced and the heartache of going through it. Are you happy now your are divorced..also thst woman was disgusting to get money fron you
Tbh with you it was over for a few years and was probably the push that was needed,was it worth it Yes n No
Yes I'm now happy after a long struggle
No as none of my children speak to me anymore
I'm so sorry to hear this. My exwifes father separated from her mother after he had an affair, and it took a few years for her to forgive her dad, but she did in the end and they have a great relationship now. I hope given time your kids will forgive you also."
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"This topic comes up (from a different angle) on another forum I read.
While no one is entitled to sex, it's also not OK for your sexual partner to consistently withold sex and intimacy forever. Couples therapy is the way to go. If the other half won't go, then go yourself and unpack your feelings and options. Radical, respectful honesty with the other half is needed.
Most definitely!! I've been there for almost 3 years so I ended up on here,now I was caught but not what you think I'd tried to arrange something with a woman who turned out she knew who I was,ended up trying to get money outta me r she'd tell🙄well needless to say I am now divorced,so not every scenario is the samecan I ask a question? I know your divorced and the heartache of going through it. Are you happy now your are divorced..also thst woman was disgusting to get money fron you
Tbh with you it was over for a few years and was probably the push that was needed,was it worth it Yes n No
Yes I'm now happy after a long struggle
No as none of my children speak to me anymore ohhh I'm sorry to hear bout your children, hopefully in time they will make contact times a healer
Yeah I believe in that as well so Hopefully 🤞 sorry for the sad story lol x"
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"This topic comes up (from a different angle) on another forum I read.
While no one is entitled to sex, it's also not OK for your sexual partner to consistently withold sex and intimacy forever. Couples therapy is the way to go. If the other half won't go, then go yourself and unpack your feelings and options. Radical, respectful honesty with the other half is needed.
Most definitely!! I've been there for almost 3 years so I ended up on here,now I was caught but not what you think I'd tried to arrange something with a woman who turned out she knew who I was,ended up trying to get money outta me r she'd tell🙄well needless to say I am now divorced,so not every scenario is the samecan I ask a question? I know your divorced and the heartache of going through it. Are you happy now your are divorced..also thst woman was disgusting to get money fron you
Tbh with you it was over for a few years and was probably the push that was needed,was it worth it Yes n No
Yes I'm now happy after a long struggle
No as none of my children speak to me anymore ohhh I'm sorry to hear bout your children, hopefully in time they will make contact times a healer
Yeah I believe in that as well so Hopefully 🤞 sorry for the sad story lol x
Can I ask how old your kids are now ahd how old they were when it all happened??"
1 in her 20s and 2 in their 30s happened about 6 years ago now? |
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While no one is entitled to sex, it's also not OK for your sexual partner to consistently withold sex and intimacy forever. Couples therapy is the way to go. If the other half won't go, then go yourself and unpack your feelings and options. Radical, respectful honesty with the other half is needed.
Most definitely!! I've been there for almost 3 years so I ended up on here,now I was caught but not what you think I'd tried to arrange something with a woman who turned out she knew who I was,ended up trying to get money outta me r she'd tell🙄well needless to say I am now divorced,so not every scenario is the samecan I ask a question? I know your divorced and the heartache of going through it. Are you happy now your are divorced..also thst woman was disgusting to get money fron you
Tbh with you it was over for a few years and was probably the push that was needed,was it worth it Yes n No
Yes I'm now happy after a long struggle
No as none of my children speak to me anymore ohhh I'm sorry to hear bout your children, hopefully in time they will make contact times a healer
Yeah I believe in that as well so Hopefully 🤞 sorry for the sad story lol x
Can I ask how old your kids are now ahd how old they were when it all happened??
1 in her 20s and 2 in their 30s happened about 6 years ago now?"
Well as was said time can b a great healer myself and my ex split cos he was having an affair when my kids were 13 and 11 and it took 5 years for my son to agree to go anywhere with him..they are 20 and 22 now and thankfully both have a pretty good relationship with their dad now so don't give up hope |
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"This topic comes up (from a different angle) on another forum I read.
While no one is entitled to sex, it's also not OK for your sexual partner to consistently withold sex and intimacy forever. Couples therapy is the way to go. If the other half won't go, then go yourself and unpack your feelings and options. Radical, respectful honesty with the other half is needed.
Most definitely!! I've been there for almost 3 years so I ended up on here,now I was caught but not what you think I'd tried to arrange something with a woman who turned out she knew who I was,ended up trying to get money outta me r she'd tell🙄well needless to say I am now divorced,so not every scenario is the samecan I ask a question? I know your divorced and the heartache of going through it. Are you happy now your are divorced..also thst woman was disgusting to get money fron you
Tbh with you it was over for a few years and was probably the push that was needed,was it worth it Yes n No
Yes I'm now happy after a long struggle
No as none of my children speak to me anymore ohhh I'm sorry to hear bout your children, hopefully in time they will make contact times a healer
Yeah I believe in that as well so Hopefully 🤞 sorry for the sad story lol x
Can I ask how old your kids are now ahd how old they were when it all happened??
1 in her 20s and 2 in their 30s happened about 6 years ago now?
Well as was said time can b a great healer myself and my ex split cos he was having an affair when my kids were 13 and 11 and it took 5 years for my son to agree to go anywhere with him..they are 20 and 22 now and thankfully both have a pretty good relationship with their dad now so don't give up hope "
Thank you so much means a lot and hopefully it does work out 🤞 x |
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Just after reading the story about their children not speaking to them and following stories of other people's partners who cheated and temporarily ruined relationships with their kids.
Cheaters very often say that they're staying in a sexless marriage for the kids.
Do any cheaters ever think what kind of relationship they will have with their own kids if they get caught?
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"Just after reading the story about their children not speaking to them and following stories of other people's partners who cheated and temporarily ruined relationships with their kids.
Cheaters very often say that they're staying in a sexless marriage for the kids.
Do any cheaters ever think what kind of relationship they will have with their own kids if they get caught?
Missus "
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While no one is entitled to sex, it's also not OK for your sexual partner to consistently withold sex and intimacy forever. Couples therapy is the way to go. If the other half won't go, then go yourself and unpack your feelings and options. Radical, respectful honesty with the other half is needed.
Most definitely!! I've been there for almost 3 years so I ended up on here,now I was caught but not what you think I'd tried to arrange something with a woman who turned out she knew who I was,ended up trying to get money outta me r she'd tell🙄well needless to say I am now divorced,so not every scenario is the samecan I ask a question? I know your divorced and the heartache of going through it. Are you happy now your are divorced..also thst woman was disgusting to get money fron you
Tbh with you it was over for a few years and was probably the push that was needed,was it worth it Yes n No
Yes I'm now happy after a long struggle
No as none of my children speak to me anymore "
That's tough, sorry to hear that. Do you reach out to them every now and then? Maybe they need a bit of convincing that you still care? |
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While no one is entitled to sex, it's also not OK for your sexual partner to consistently withold sex and intimacy forever. Couples therapy is the way to go. If the other half won't go, then go yourself and unpack your feelings and options. Radical, respectful honesty with the other half is needed.
Most definitely!! I've been there for almost 3 years so I ended up on here,now I was caught but not what you think I'd tried to arrange something with a woman who turned out she knew who I was,ended up trying to get money outta me r she'd tell🙄well needless to say I am now divorced,so not every scenario is the samecan I ask a question? I know your divorced and the heartache of going through it. Are you happy now your are divorced..also thst woman was disgusting to get money fron you
Tbh with you it was over for a few years and was probably the push that was needed,was it worth it Yes n No
Yes I'm now happy after a long struggle
No as none of my children speak to me anymore
That's tough, sorry to hear that. Do you reach out to them every now and then? Maybe they need a bit of convincing that you still care?"
I've tried so many times 1 is starting to answer me back now🤞 so fingers crossed it'll work out,Thanks |
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"This topic comes up (from a different angle) on another forum I read.
While no one is entitled to sex, it's also not OK for your sexual partner to consistently withold sex and intimacy forever. Couples therapy is the way to go. If the other half won't go, then go yourself and unpack your feelings and options. Radical, respectful honesty with the other half is needed.
Most definitely!! I've been there for almost 3 years so I ended up on here,now I was caught but not what you think I'd tried to arrange something with a woman who turned out she knew who I was,ended up trying to get money outta me r she'd tell🙄well needless to say I am now divorced,so not every scenario is the samecan I ask a question? I know your divorced and the heartache of going through it. Are you happy now your are divorced..also thst woman was disgusting to get money fron you
Tbh with you it was over for a few years and was probably the push that was needed,was it worth it Yes n No
Yes I'm now happy after a long struggle
No as none of my children speak to me anymore
That's tough, sorry to hear that. Do you reach out to them every now and then? Maybe they need a bit of convincing that you still care?
I've tried so many times 1 is starting to answer me back now🤞 so fingers crossed it'll work out,Thanks"
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"This topic comes up (from a different angle) on another forum I read.
While no one is entitled to sex, it's also not OK for your sexual partner to consistently withold sex and intimacy forever. Couples therapy is the way to go. If the other half won't go, then go yourself and unpack your feelings and options. Radical, respectful honesty with the other half is needed.
Most definitely!! I've been there for almost 3 years so I ended up on here,now I was caught but not what you think I'd tried to arrange something with a woman who turned out she knew who I was,ended up trying to get money outta me r she'd tell🙄well needless to say I am now divorced,so not every scenario is the samecan I ask a question? I know your divorced and the heartache of going through it. Are you happy now your are divorced..also thst woman was disgusting to get money fron you
Tbh with you it was over for a few years and was probably the push that was needed,was it worth it Yes n No
Yes I'm now happy after a long struggle
No as none of my children speak to me anymore
That's tough, sorry to hear that. Do you reach out to them every now and then? Maybe they need a bit of convincing that you still care?
I've tried so many times 1 is starting to answer me back now🤞 so fingers crossed it'll work out,Thanks
Good luck 🤞🤞🤞"
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"Just after reading the story about their children not speaking to them and following stories of other people's partners who cheated and temporarily ruined relationships with their kids.
Cheaters very often say that they're staying in a sexless marriage for the kids.
Do any cheaters ever think what kind of relationship they will have with their own kids if they get caught?
Missus "
Part of the problem here is that some people want to normalise relationships that are sexless and have no intimacy or affection. That the other partner should just put up and shut up, as if they're the problem. That's just wrong.
Any partner that doesn't engage or communicate in this situation is the problem. We will say they have this, that, and the other going on in their lives and some think thats an acceptable reason to totally ignore their partner.
I think many kids will see through that as they grow older, especially if they're in a loving relationship themselves! Id guarantee this man's kids will do as they grow their own relationships and may view their parents through a different lens. |
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"Just after reading the story about their children not speaking to them and following stories of other people's partners who cheated and temporarily ruined relationships with their kids.
Cheaters very often say that they're staying in a sexless marriage for the kids.
Do any cheaters ever think what kind of relationship they will have with their own kids if they get caught?
Missus
Part of the problem here is that some people want to normalise relationships that are sexless and have no intimacy or affection. That the other partner should just put up and shut up, as if they're the problem. That's just wrong.
Any partner that doesn't engage or communicate in this situation is the problem. We will say they have this, that, and the other going on in their lives and some think thats an acceptable reason to totally ignore their partner.
I think many kids will see through that as they grow older, especially if they're in a loving relationship themselves! Id guarantee this man's kids will do as they grow their own relationships and may view their parents through a different lens."
But nit all men cheat because they are in a sexless relationship I know I certainly wasn't...and after I found out about the affair the first time I forgave him (stupidly) and went down the couples counselling route but he was cheating the entire time we were in therapy and trying to gaslight me that I was the crazy one
Some guys just cheat because they can |
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"Just after reading the story about their children not speaking to them and following stories of other people's partners who cheated and temporarily ruined relationships with their kids.
Cheaters very often say that they're staying in a sexless marriage for the kids.
Do any cheaters ever think what kind of relationship they will have with their own kids if they get caught?
Missus
Part of the problem here is that some people want to normalise relationships that are sexless and have no intimacy or affection. That the other partner should just put up and shut up, as if they're the problem. That's just wrong.
Any partner that doesn't engage or communicate in this situation is the problem. We will say they have this, that, and the other going on in their lives and some think thats an acceptable reason to totally ignore their partner.
I think many kids will see through that as they grow older, especially if they're in a loving relationship themselves! Id guarantee this man's kids will do as they grow their own relationships and may view their parents through a different lens.
But nit all men cheat because they are in a sexless relationship I know I certainly wasn't...and after I found out about the affair the first time I forgave him (stupidly) and went down the couples counselling route but he was cheating the entire time we were in therapy and trying to gaslight me that I was the crazy one
Some guys just cheat because they can "
I agree with you totally. Some people just do!
We also get alot of stories here about relationships that are basically over, but one of them is expected to just stay in it and be satisfied with their lot. Many just doing so because of their kids. It's a terrible situation when couples don't communicate. |
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"Just after reading the story about their children not speaking to them and following stories of other people's partners who cheated and temporarily ruined relationships with their kids.
Cheaters very often say that they're staying in a sexless marriage for the kids.
Do any cheaters ever think what kind of relationship they will have with their own kids if they get caught?
Missus
Part of the problem here is that some people want to normalise relationships that are sexless and have no intimacy or affection. That the other partner should just put up and shut up, as if they're the problem. That's just wrong.
Any partner that doesn't engage or communicate in this situation is the problem. We will say they have this, that, and the other going on in their lives and some think thats an acceptable reason to totally ignore their partner.
I think many kids will see through that as they grow older, especially if they're in a loving relationship themselves! Id guarantee this man's kids will do as they grow their own relationships and may view their parents through a different lens.
But nit all men cheat because they are in a sexless relationship I know I certainly wasn't...and after I found out about the affair the first time I forgave him (stupidly) and went down the couples counselling route but he was cheating the entire time we were in therapy and trying to gaslight me that I was the crazy one
Some guys just cheat because they can "
Yeah, I cheated on my wife but didn't cheat with the lady I was with!!
Discuss that conundrum!! |
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"Just after reading the story about their children not speaking to them and following stories of other people's partners who cheated and temporarily ruined relationships with their kids.
Cheaters very often say that they're staying in a sexless marriage for the kids.
Do any cheaters ever think what kind of relationship they will have with their own kids if they get caught?
Missus
Part of the problem here is that some people want to normalise relationships that are sexless and have no intimacy or affection. That the other partner should just put up and shut up, as if they're the problem. That's just wrong.
Any partner that doesn't engage or communicate in this situation is the problem. We will say they have this, that, and the other going on in their lives and some think thats an acceptable reason to totally ignore their partner.
I think many kids will see through that as they grow older, especially if they're in a loving relationship themselves! Id guarantee this man's kids will do as they grow their own relationships and may view their parents through a different lens.
But nit all men cheat because they are in a sexless relationship I know I certainly wasn't...and after I found out about the affair the first time I forgave him (stupidly) and went down the couples counselling route but he was cheating the entire time we were in therapy and trying to gaslight me that I was the crazy one
Some guys just cheat because they can
I agree with you totally. Some people just do!
We also get alot of stories here about relationships that are basically over, but one of them is expected to just stay in it and be satisfied with their lot. Many just doing so because of their kids. It's a terrible situation when couples don't communicate."
I totally hear you but the problem with these 'stories' is that they often are just that a fictional tale designed to excuse their behaviour
Not always I know |
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"Just after reading the story about their children not speaking to them and following stories of other people's partners who cheated and temporarily ruined relationships with their kids.
Cheaters very often say that they're staying in a sexless marriage for the kids.
Do any cheaters ever think what kind of relationship they will have with their own kids if they get caught?
Missus
Part of the problem here is that some people want to normalise relationships that are sexless and have no intimacy or affection. That the other partner should just put up and shut up, as if they're the problem. That's just wrong.
Any partner that doesn't engage or communicate in this situation is the problem. We will say they have this, that, and the other going on in their lives and some think thats an acceptable reason to totally ignore their partner.
I think many kids will see through that as they grow older, especially if they're in a loving relationship themselves! Id guarantee this man's kids will do as they grow their own relationships and may view their parents through a different lens.
But nit all men cheat because they are in a sexless relationship I know I certainly wasn't...and after I found out about the affair the first time I forgave him (stupidly) and went down the couples counselling route but he was cheating the entire time we were in therapy and trying to gaslight me that I was the crazy one
Some guys just cheat because they can
Yeah, I cheated on my wife but didn't cheat with the lady I was with!!
Discuss that conundrum!! "
No offence meant here but you kinda sound like you want a medal for managing not to cheat on the woman you cheated on your wife with |
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I've read, and participated, in many of these threads over the years. Absolutely no married person ever just fancies a bit on the side. Noone at all. It's absolutely unheard of on fab to just cheat for some risky exciting sex on the side. It is always the wife/hubby's fault for not putting out. |
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By *aseylee324Couple 25 weeks ago
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"Just after reading the story about their children not speaking to them and following stories of other people's partners who cheated and temporarily ruined relationships with their kids.
Cheaters very often say that they're staying in a sexless marriage for the kids.
Do any cheaters ever think what kind of relationship they will have with their own kids if they get caught?
Missus
Part of the problem here is that some people want to normalise relationships that are sexless and have no intimacy or affection. That the other partner should just put up and shut up, as if they're the problem. That's just wrong.
Any partner that doesn't engage or communicate in this situation is the problem. We will say they have this, that, and the other going on in their lives and some think thats an acceptable reason to totally ignore their partner.
I think many kids will see through that as they grow older, especially if they're in a loving relationship themselves! Id guarantee this man's kids will do as they grow their own relationships and may view their parents through a different lens.
But nit all men cheat because they are in a sexless relationship I know I certainly wasn't...and after I found out about the affair the first time I forgave him (stupidly) and went down the couples counselling route but he was cheating the entire time we were in therapy and trying to gaslight me that I was the crazy one
Some guys just cheat because they can
I agree with you totally. Some people just do!
We also get alot of stories here about relationships that are basically over, but one of them is expected to just stay in it and be satisfied with their lot. Many just doing so because of their kids. It's a terrible situation when couples don't communicate."
Let's be realistic here, you're getting one of the
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It's the blaming and airing of the intimate details of someone's relationship without the knowledge or consent of someone partner I find the most distasteful about this subject on here tbh |
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By *aseylee324Couple 25 weeks ago
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"I've read, and participated, in many of these threads over the years. Absolutely no married person ever just fancies a bit on the side. Noone at all. It's absolutely unheard of on fab to just cheat for some risky exciting sex on the side. It is always the wife/hubby's fault for not putting out.
It's the blaming and airing of the intimate details of someone's relationship without the knowledge or consent of someone partner I find the most distasteful about this subject on here tbh"
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Let's be realistic here, you're getting one of the
three sides to the story."
Oh, absolutely, I'm well aware many of these "poor me" stories are bull dust from very manipulative people. Some who are likely mentally abusing their partner, with manipulation, gas-lighting etc.
But I've also seen many relationships, where you just have to wonder why they bother.
Its just become a habit in their lives, just stuck in a rut. |
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"Just after reading the story about their children not speaking to them and following stories of other people's partners who cheated and temporarily ruined relationships with their kids.
Cheaters very often say that they're staying in a sexless marriage for the kids.
Do any cheaters ever think what kind of relationship they will have with their own kids if they get caught?
Missus
Part of the problem here is that some people want to normalise relationships that are sexless and have no intimacy or affection. That the other partner should just put up and shut up, as if they're the problem. That's just wrong.
Any partner that doesn't engage or communicate in this situation is the problem. We will say they have this, that, and the other going on in their lives and some think thats an acceptable reason to totally ignore their partner.
I think many kids will see through that as they grow older, especially if they're in a loving relationship themselves! Id guarantee this man's kids will do as they grow their own relationships and may view their parents through a different lens.
But nit all men cheat because they are in a sexless relationship I know I certainly wasn't...and after I found out about the affair the first time I forgave him (stupidly) and went down the couples counselling route but he was cheating the entire time we were in therapy and trying to gaslight me that I was the crazy one
Some guys just cheat because they can
Yeah, I cheated on my wife but didn't cheat with the lady I was with!!
Discuss that conundrum!!
No offence meant here but you kinda sound like you want a medal for managing not to cheat on the woman you cheated on your wife with "
I'll take a silver then!!
I always like to come second!! |
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"Just after reading the story about their children not speaking to them and following stories of other people's partners who cheated and temporarily ruined relationships with their kids.
Cheaters very often say that they're staying in a sexless marriage for the kids.
Do any cheaters ever think what kind of relationship they will have with their own kids if they get caught?
Missus
Part of the problem here is that some people want to normalise relationships that are sexless and have no intimacy or affection. That the other partner should just put up and shut up, as if they're the problem. That's just wrong.
Any partner that doesn't engage or communicate in this situation is the problem. We will say they have this, that, and the other going on in their lives and some think thats an acceptable reason to totally ignore their partner.
I think many kids will see through that as they grow older, especially if they're in a loving relationship themselves! Id guarantee this man's kids will do as they grow their own relationships and may view their parents through a different lens.
But nit all men cheat because they are in a sexless relationship I know I certainly wasn't...and after I found out about the affair the first time I forgave him (stupidly) and went down the couples counselling route but he was cheating the entire time we were in therapy and trying to gaslight me that I was the crazy one
Some guys just cheat because they can
Yeah, I cheated on my wife but didn't cheat with the lady I was with!!
Discuss that conundrum!!
No offence meant here but you kinda sound like you want a medal for managing not to cheat on the woman you cheated on your wife with
I'll take a silver then!!
I always like to come second!! "
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Sadly not unheard of. Plenty on here still cheat on here or fabguys or where ever else their fancy
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Sadly not unheard of. Plenty on here still cheat on here or fabguys or where ever else their fancy
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Sure. They are by far the biggest group of cheaters here. The point is they just like to hold other people responsible for their actions and so make an excuse that they hope make their plight acceptable to other people. |
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By *og-ManMan 25 weeks ago
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"I've read, and participated, in many of these threads over the years. Absolutely no married person ever just fancies a bit on the side. Noone at all. It's absolutely unheard of on fab to just cheat for some risky exciting sex on the side. It is always the wife/hubby's fault for not putting out.
Sadly not unheard of. Plenty on here still cheat on here or fabguys or where ever else their fancy
Sure. They are by far the biggest group of cheaters here. The point is they just like to hold other people responsible for their actions and so make an excuse that they hope make their plight acceptable to other people."
There's lot of male and female profiles that don't complain about lack of sex at home or blame amyone else
They just want the excitement of a ride every now and then extra to what they get at home |
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"I've read, and participated, in many of these threads over the years. Absolutely no married person ever just fancies a bit on the side. Noone at all. It's absolutely unheard of on fab to just cheat for some risky exciting sex on the side. It is always the wife/hubby's fault for not putting out.
Sadly not unheard of. Plenty on here still cheat on here or fabguys or where ever else their fancy
Sure. They are by far the biggest group of cheaters here. The point is they just like to hold other people responsible for their actions and so make an excuse that they hope make their plight acceptable to other people.
There's lot of male and female profiles that don't complain about lack of sex at home or blame amyone else
They just want the excitement of a ride every now and then extra to what they get at home "
These are the REAL unicorns I suspect. Honestly, rare as hens teeth. All of the married cheating men that we get messages from tell us about how their wife won't fuck them. |
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