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By *og-Man OP Man 45 weeks ago
somewhere |
Not a clever Jaffa answer but the amount I got back yesterday for my first visit to the new Recycling machines
The village shop near work installed one over the weekend so I went there for coffee and used the €1.75 towards the cost of the coffee instead of throwing the bottles and cans in the green bin at home
Quick and painless so I guess I'll be using it from now on as its not out of my way
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By *iscuits8Man 45 weeks ago
Meath / Dublin / Birmingham |
Only used it once. €1.25 I think. I figured I use very little anyway of the stuff that's valid for recycling in them. I use a filter in the fridge for water so no bottled. I changed from plastic bottle orange juice to cartons and I'm practically using nothing for the machines now. All to the blue bin  |
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By *aseylee324Couple 45 weeks ago
Valley of Squinting Windows |
"Only used it once. €1.25 I think. I figured I use very little anyway of the stuff that's valid for recycling in them. I use a filter in the fridge for water so no bottled. I changed from plastic bottle orange juice to cartons and I'm practically using nothing for the machines now. All to the blue bin "
Same, have my own well and get my drinking water from it. Never drink cans of anything. |
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"I haven't done it yet (hangs head in shame). I have been recycling as normal "
Me too, but will need to start now. The worst thing about this Green stealth tax, is that the money goes back to the businesses! Who's bright idea was that!? |
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"Would have made more sense to permit disposal of cans and plastic bottles in domestic recycling bin. I don't see the logic behind this new system at all. Another racket! "
Probably less likely to put a 15c plastic bottle in your domestic waste bin than a free one though. |
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Not an option we have up here but the whole recycling malarkey is a joke.
I once replaced a skip with recycling bins in a company I was managing and all staff were given specific training in separating waste and the correct bins to use.
We made it part of our processes and procedures.
It was slightly cheaper than the skip but we had the satisfaction of having a proper approach to recycling.
That was until we discovered that all the waste including kitchen waste was being tipped into one bin lorry and when challenged they claimed it was sorted back at base.
When I asked why we needed 6 different bins then when 2 would have been sufficient they said they couldn't issue a waste management certificate if we didn't separate our waste.
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"Not an option we have up here but the whole recycling malarkey is a joke.
I once replaced a skip with recycling bins in a company I was managing and all staff were given specific training in separating waste and the correct bins to use.
We made it part of our processes and procedures.
It was slightly cheaper than the skip but we had the satisfaction of having a proper approach to recycling.
That was until we discovered that all the waste including kitchen waste was being tipped into one bin lorry and when challenged they claimed it was sorted back at base.
When I asked why we needed 6 different bins then when 2 would have been sufficient they said they couldn't issue a waste management certificate if we didn't separate our waste.
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It's really not malarkey. Even though the systems can be very frustrating. Aluminium is extremely versatile and useful but finite resource, once it's pulled out of the ground it has to stay in circulation or there'll be none left.
Not to mention the tensions between people who live on land with potential new sources, and mining companies looking to expand their sites.
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I haven't done it yet, I'm just going to have to get a dual bin out the back of the house.
One for glass, one for bottles/cans.
So whenever I'm doing the rounds dropping off the glass, I can do the recycling also.
That's the plan anyway. |
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By *runchMan 45 weeks ago
Dublin |
"Not an option we have up here but the whole recycling malarkey is a joke.
I once replaced a skip with recycling bins in a company I was managing and all staff were given specific training in separating waste and the correct bins to use.
We made it part of our processes and procedures.
It was slightly cheaper than the skip but we had the satisfaction of having a proper approach to recycling.
That was until we discovered that all the waste including kitchen waste was being tipped into one bin lorry and when challenged they claimed it was sorted back at base.
When I asked why we needed 6 different bins then when 2 would have been sufficient they said they couldn't issue a waste management certificate if we didn't separate our waste.
It's really not malarkey. Even though the systems can be very frustrating. Aluminium is extremely versatile and useful but finite resource, once it's pulled out of the ground it has to stay in circulation or there'll be none left.
Not to mention the tensions between people who live on land with potential new sources, and mining companies looking to expand their sites.
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I don't know it could be described as anything other than "malarkey" when rubbish needs to be segregated across several bins, all of which are emptied into one in order to tick a box. |
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Why couldn’t they have put the machines at the recycling centres as well as in the shops. That way you can do all your recycling in one place and hopefully encourage more people to start recycling. |
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By *og-Man OP Man 45 weeks ago
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"Why couldn’t they have put the machines at the recycling centres as well as in the shops. That way you can do all your recycling in one place and hopefully encourage more people to start recycling. "
Nearest shopping centre to me has both but not beside each other so you have to drive in the car park to both |
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By *runchMan 45 weeks ago
Dublin |
"Why couldn’t they have put the machines at the recycling centres as well as in the shops. That way you can do all your recycling in one place and hopefully encourage more people to start recycling. "
Because that would make sense. Better still, why can't cans and bottles be chucked into the recycling and segregated at the plant, like they do with other waste?!
Meanwhile, the push to get motorists to switch to EVs, which rely on one of the rarest elements - lithium - is all around us.
I would be more concerned about the lack of lithium than aluminium, aka one of most abundant elements on the planet. |
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"Only used it once. €1.25 I think. I figured I use very little anyway of the stuff that's valid for recycling in them. I use a filter in the fridge for water so no bottled. I changed from plastic bottle orange juice to cartons and I'm practically using nothing for the machines now. All to the blue bin
Same, have my own well and get my drinking water from it. Never drink cans of anything."
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"Not an option we have up here but the whole recycling malarkey is a joke.
I once replaced a skip with recycling bins in a company I was managing and all staff were given specific training in separating waste and the correct bins to use.
We made it part of our processes and procedures.
It was slightly cheaper than the skip but we had the satisfaction of having a proper approach to recycling.
That was until we discovered that all the waste including kitchen waste was being tipped into one bin lorry and when challenged they claimed it was sorted back at base.
When I asked why we needed 6 different bins then when 2 would have been sufficient they said they couldn't issue a waste management certificate if we didn't separate our waste.
It's really not malarkey. Even though the systems can be very frustrating. Aluminium is extremely versatile and useful but finite resource, once it's pulled out of the ground it has to stay in circulation or there'll be none left.
Not to mention the tensions between people who live on land with potential new sources, and mining companies looking to expand their sites.
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I'm fully behind actual recycling but not when it's all for show or as is the case near to me where it has been a bone of contention in a residential area with 10 times the licenced amount of material waiting to be recycled causing all sorts of related issues.
Recycling is not malarkey. The recycling system is. |
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By (user no longer on site) 45 weeks ago
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25c..lugged 6 perfect, recyclable bottles with their caps into town, machine only accepted 1 of them. Complete waste of my time and diesel. Shall continue to use the green bin i already paid for.
Absolute scam
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Bit of insider knowledge for ye.
They say the machine will only accept bottles and cans in perfect condition right?
There's a big grinder underneath and it obliterates them as they go through!
Why do they have to be perfect then  |
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1.95 euros.
Since it was introduced I cut out on fizzy drinks. Have had no problem using the machine.
As someone said earlier why have they not got these machines at the recycling centres. That makes senses and the needy greens don't do common sense.
It is extra work for recycling. Not a fan of it, but forced to use it. I recycle as much as possible |
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"Bit of insider knowledge for ye.
They say the machine will only accept bottles and cans in perfect condition right?
There's a big grinder underneath and it obliterates them as they go through!
Why do they have to be perfect then "
I don't as wondering that too, cos that's very frustrating, I wonder is it for scanning a barcode maybe? |
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By *og-Man OP Man 45 weeks ago
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"Bit of insider knowledge for ye.
They say the machine will only accept bottles and cans in perfect condition right?
There's a big grinder underneath and it obliterates them as they go through!
Why do they have to be perfect then "
To allow the barcode reader to work correctly is what I was told by someone that sells the machines |
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"Bit of insider knowledge for ye.
They say the machine will only accept bottles and cans in perfect condition right?
There's a big grinder underneath and it obliterates them as they go through!
Why do they have to be perfect then
I don't as wondering that too, cos that's very frustrating, I wonder is it for scanning a barcode maybe? "
Ya probably but it's annoying all the same.
They're a pain to empty, the smell of beer out of them is gross  |
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"Recycling at home was fine, it was brought in because many more people throw their bottle in the general waste when out and about. "
Exactly this…This new system makes it harder for people to recycle bottles that were used in the home so is a step backward. Also bottles used mainly in the home are 1L so would have been far better if these had been excluded from the new scheme as I would think most of these were being recycled.
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"Recycling at home was fine, it was brought in because many more people throw their bottle in the general waste when out and about. "
Yeah I get that,
unfortunately for the rest of us who were recycling at home already now we've to do an extra trip but hey ho, first works problems. |
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By *og-Man OP Man 45 weeks ago
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"Recycling at home was fine, it was brought in because many more people throw their bottle in the general waste when out and about.
Yeah I get that,
unfortunately for the rest of us who were recycling at home already now we've to do an extra trip but hey ho, first works problems. "
I was doing the recycling bin at home this morning
Took 2 cans and 3 bottles out of the green bin and put them into a bog in the boot of my car
They were going to be recycled anyway but this way I pay towards my coffee in the shop anyway
The figures were published today for the first 40 days of the scheme
Over 20 million Euro unclaimed so far as the bottles and cans had a deposit on them but they didn't go into the machines
Wonder where the money goes |
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By *aid backMan 45 weeks ago
by a lake with my rod out |
Unless the plastic is now being recycled in Ireland it's a pointless endeavour. The huge ships that transport plastic back to china to recycle produce more Nox, co2 etc than all the cars in Ireland. So we are polluting more just to recycle plastic |
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Think there's about a tenner sitting in a plastic box full of bottles sitting here at the house. My company is one of participants of the scheme and the uptake returning from the stores in unreal. To answer bogs question I would say said money is going to the companies recycling all of this. Their paying a hefty sum to us for it and it's a huge amount of it their getting (about two artic sized trailers a week)
Their charging the tax to the packaging companies buying it for production of bottles and cans. |
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Every time I used the machine it won’t accept at least 1 out of 10 of my cans even tho they from same batch of calsberg - so the machine gets both the bottle and the cardboard packaging horsed into it. 
A lot won’t bother rinsing bottles n travelling into re-use locations, most will simply pop recyclables into green bin so the state or whoever gets the skim off top that’s left.
The shops don’t give back the deposit money - they issue you with a credit note for that store.
The USA been doing this for decades- only they accept squashed cans.  |
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By *og-Man OP Man 45 weeks ago
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"Every time I used the machine it won’t accept at least 1 out of 10 of my cans even tho they from same batch of calsberg - so the machine gets both the bottle and the cardboard packaging horsed into it.
A lot won’t bother rinsing bottles n travelling into re-use locations, most will simply pop recyclables into green bin so the state or whoever gets the skim off top that’s left.
The shops don’t give back the deposit money - they issue you with a credit note for that store.
The USA been doing this for decades- only they accept squashed cans. "
Think people horsing the stuff in like cardboard is one of the reasons why the machines dont work
You can use the issued receipt to get cash back in the shop |
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By *eth TVTV/TS 45 weeks ago
Mid Meath |
"€4.90 but it took about 5 trips to different shops to find a machine that works!! 
Seriously frustrsting!
B x"
Ask them at the counter and they can generally sort it. Most of the time it’s jammed because someone rammed their stuff in far too quickly, panicked and ran off.
A bit like bad sex, come to think of it  |
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"€4.90 but it took about 5 trips to different shops to find a machine that works!!
Seriously frustrsting!
B x
Ask them at the counter and they can generally sort it. Most of the time it’s jammed because someone rammed their stuff in far too quickly, panicked and ran off.
A bit like bad sex, come to think of it "
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"Every time I used the machine it won’t accept at least 1 out of 10 of my cans even tho they from same batch of calsberg - so the machine gets both the bottle and the cardboard packaging horsed into it.
A lot won’t bother rinsing bottles n travelling into re-use locations, most will simply pop recyclables into green bin so the state or whoever gets the skim off top that’s left.
The shops don’t give back the deposit money - they issue you with a credit note for that store.
The USA been doing this for decades- only they accept squashed cans. "
The shops do give you back the cash or you can opt to take it off your shopping. |
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By (user no longer on site) 45 weeks ago
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This is so true.
Some years ago I heard a Prius needed to do 300k km before it started to have a lower carbon footprint and a 2L diesel.
It is funny now that all the car companies want subsidies to take on BYD.
As for the bottles - businesses will find a way around it. We'll be going to Tesco for a refill of OJ. Same as the plastic bag levy produced the bag for life, I guess...
"Why couldn’t they have put the machines at the recycling centres as well as in the shops. That way you can do all your recycling in one place and hopefully encourage more people to start recycling.
Because that would make sense. Better still, why can't cans and bottles be chucked into the recycling and segregated at the plant, like they do with other waste?!
Meanwhile, the push to get motorists to switch to EVs, which rely on one of the rarest elements - lithium - is all around us.
I would be more concerned about the lack of lithium than aluminium, aka one of most abundant elements on the planet. "
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By *runchMan 45 weeks ago
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"This is so true.
Some years ago I heard a Prius needed to do 300k km before it started to have a lower carbon footprint and a 2L diesel.
It is funny now that all the car companies want subsidies to take on BYD.
As for the bottles - businesses will find a way around it. We'll be going to Tesco for a refill of OJ. Same as the plastic bag levy produced the bag for life, I guess...
Why couldn’t they have put the machines at the recycling centres as well as in the shops. That way you can do all your recycling in one place and hopefully encourage more people to start recycling.
Because that would make sense. Better still, why can't cans and bottles be chucked into the recycling and segregated at the plant, like they do with other waste?!
Meanwhile, the push to get motorists to switch to EVs, which rely on one of the rarest elements - lithium - is all around us.
I would be more concerned about the lack of lithium than aluminium, aka one of most abundant elements on the planet. "
People are silly! Conned into thinking they are doing good for a planet when in reality they are being ripped off.
As soon as the likes of BYD arrived in Europe and the US, manufacturers such Tesla and VW slashed prices by thousands. Anyone who bought a VW ID pre January got royally fucked over |
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By *og-Man OP Man 45 weeks ago
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"This is so true.
Some years ago I heard a Prius needed to do 300k km before it started to have a lower carbon footprint and a 2L diesel.
It is funny now that all the car companies want subsidies to take on BYD.
As for the bottles - businesses will find a way around it. We'll be going to Tesco for a refill of OJ. Same as the plastic bag levy produced the bag for life, I guess...
Why couldn’t they have put the machines at the recycling centres as well as in the shops. That way you can do all your recycling in one place and hopefully encourage more people to start recycling.
Because that would make sense. Better still, why can't cans and bottles be chucked into the recycling and segregated at the plant, like they do with other waste?!
Meanwhile, the push to get motorists to switch to EVs, which rely on one of the rarest elements - lithium - is all around us.
I would be more concerned about the lack of lithium than aluminium, aka one of most abundant elements on the planet.
People are silly! Conned into thinking they are doing good for a planet when in reality they are being ripped off.
As soon as the likes of BYD arrived in Europe and the US, manufacturers such Tesla and VW slashed prices by thousands. Anyone who bought a VW ID pre January got royally fucked over "
10 grand discount on an ID4
Anyone that got one on a PCP could be in trouble |
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By *runchMan 45 weeks ago
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"This is so true.
Some years ago I heard a Prius needed to do 300k km before it started to have a lower carbon footprint and a 2L diesel.
It is funny now that all the car companies want subsidies to take on BYD.
As for the bottles - businesses will find a way around it. We'll be going to Tesco for a refill of OJ. Same as the plastic bag levy produced the bag for life, I guess...
Why couldn’t they have put the machines at the recycling centres as well as in the shops. That way you can do all your recycling in one place and hopefully encourage more people to start recycling.
Because that would make sense. Better still, why can't cans and bottles be chucked into the recycling and segregated at the plant, like they do with other waste?!
Meanwhile, the push to get motorists to switch to EVs, which rely on one of the rarest elements - lithium - is all around us.
I would be more concerned about the lack of lithium than aluminium, aka one of most abundant elements on the planet.
People are silly! Conned into thinking they are doing good for a planet when in reality they are being ripped off.
As soon as the likes of BYD arrived in Europe and the US, manufacturers such Tesla and VW slashed prices by thousands. Anyone who bought a VW ID pre January got royally fucked over
10 grand discount on an ID4
Anyone that got one on a PCP could be in trouble "
I read it was more. Silly geese!
https://m.independent.ie/life/motoring/car-news/volkswagen-slashes-prices-by-up-to-12k-on-ev-brands-in-price-war-with-tesla-and-chinese-giants-but-what-about-existing-owners/a1407120076.html
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"Every time I used the machine it won’t accept at least 1 out of 10 of my cans even tho they from same batch of calsberg - so the machine gets both the bottle and the cardboard packaging horsed into it.
A lot won’t bother rinsing bottles n travelling into re-use locations, most will simply pop recyclables into green bin so the state or whoever gets the skim off top that’s left.
The shops don’t give back the deposit money - they issue you with a credit note for that store.
The USA been doing this for decades- only they accept squashed cans.
The shops do give you back the cash or you can opt to take it off your shopping. "
Ok thanks. Was in Tesco and they said it only viable to get off your groceries- so I was misinformed. Great thanks |
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By *rRiosMan 45 weeks ago
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"€9.85
This needs to be in the Guinness book of world records. Highly doubt anyone will beat this!
I cashed one for someone last night, €19.25  "
“For someone” How big was the bag?  If they accepted crushed cans you could do much bigger numbers! |
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"€9.85
This needs to be in the Guinness book of world records. Highly doubt anyone will beat this!
I cashed one for someone last night, €19.25 "
No you did not! Someone ring Patrick Kielty, we have our first guest this week |
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By *dfabMan 45 weeks ago
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"€9.85
This needs to be in the Guinness book of world records. Highly doubt anyone will beat this!
I cashed one for someone last night, €19.25 "
Making my €10.50 feel second best! For someone else  |
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