"Think we should have an election "
That would mean the resulting general election would be between 11-16 April and would result in 3 visits to polling stations in as many months (the referendums, local council/EU elections and then this) I can't see it happening as much as I would like to. |
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He's been a very poor leader.
From the beginning it was all about cultivating an image. But that doesn't work when you don't deliver.
There'll be no scandal either, over a dozen current TDs had announced they would not be running again. The powers that be in FG finally grew a pair and pushed him! |
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About time he just wanted to get Paddy's Day over him and a wee picture with sleepy Joe and he's happy, an absolutely terrible leader the country has had enough of FG and FF it's time for change enough is enough and the lists of reasons for their departure is endless an absolute joke of a government |
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Simon Coveney or Pascal O'Donoghue
He clearly had this planned. He always dismissed a general election this year. It'll give his successor time to settle in prior to national elections.
There's a large number of FG candidates not contesting the elections.
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"Think we should have an election
That would mean the resulting general election would be between 11-16 April and would result in 3 visits to polling stations in as many months (the referendums, local council/EU elections and then this) I can't see it happening as much as I would like to. "
I agree, I can't see general election soon. Leo has this well thought out and planned well in advance. I don't believe it's a snap decision on his behalf.
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I think Varadker did a good job internationally with brexit and covid
Domestically he’s done fuck all, housing is worse than ever, hospitals are a shambles and the asylum system has been totally mismanaged |
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"I think Varadker did a good job internationally with brexit and covid
Domestically he’s done fuck all, housing is worse than ever, hospitals are a shambles and the asylum system has been totally mismanaged "
That's his personality and the image he was trying to create. On Brexit and Covid he could reach an International audience of bureaucrats.
Having to do his job at home regarding housing, health and immigration, well that just bored him, he couldn't be arsed! |
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"I think Varadker did a good job internationally with brexit and covid
Domestically he’s done fuck all, housing is worse than ever, hospitals are a shambles and the asylum system has been totally mismanaged
That's his personality and the image he was trying to create. On Brexit and Covid he could reach an International audience of bureaucrats.
Having to do his job at home regarding housing, health and immigration, well that just bored him, he couldn't be arsed!"
I totally agree
I think taoiseach was only ever a stepping stone for him
he’s far too smart to waste his time on normal people problems, he should be solving world problems |
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"I think Varadker did a good job internationally with brexit and covid
Domestically he’s done fuck all, housing is worse than ever, hospitals are a shambles and the asylum system has been totally mismanaged
That's his personality and the image he was trying to create. On Brexit and Covid he could reach an International audience of bureaucrats.
Having to do his job at home regarding housing, health and immigration, well that just bored him, he couldn't be arsed!
I totally agree
I think taoiseach was only ever a stepping stone for him
he’s far too smart to waste his time on normal people problems, he should be solving world problems"
Someone being facetious here methinks! I've heard that Leo was not good with following through with implementation..Kenny thought intellectually inferior was better at that than Leo, which is actually more important. |
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When he said last week that the government didn't do enough to convince the public to vote Yes-Yes I knew then that he misunderstand what politics should be.
The government are elected to listen to and represent the will of the people. Clearly he thinks the government are elected to rule the people. It's the people who are sovereign and Leo needed to realise that to realise he's been in the wrong job.
He's the worst Taoiseach in living memory for one single reason, he does not respect the citizens. |
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"When he said last week that the government didn't do enough to convince the public to vote Yes-Yes I knew then that he misunderstand what politics should be.
The government are elected to listen to and represent the will of the people. Clearly he thinks the government are elected to rule the people. It's the people who are sovereign and Leo needed to realise that to realise he's been in the wrong job.
He's the worst Taoiseach in living memory for one single reason, he does not respect the citizens. "
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Quote - "He said last week that the government didn't do enough to convince the public to vote yes"....
I actually think the No Vote is one reason for Leo Varadkars resignation. I do think it's a contributing factor but not the only reason. |
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"Hes running away with Kate Middleton
I may have got the stories mixed up "
Maybe his relationship ended it was him who was in market with Kate and he has decided to come out straight about him and Kate. Or he just had enough of politics and all the key board warrior nuts. |
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Who cares hes gone end of no doubt some other brainless person will step into his boots definitely needs to be an election to get those muppets out and try get things moving in right direction all these unvetted needs to be shipped back from where they came from like im sure the women and kids should not be left to fight the battles of the cowardly men that left home  |
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"When he said last week that the government didn't do enough to convince the public to vote Yes-Yes I knew then that he misunderstand what politics should be.
The government are elected to listen to and represent the will of the people. Clearly he thinks the government are elected to rule the people. It's the people who are sovereign and Leo needed to realise that to realise he's been in the wrong job.
He's the worst Taoiseach in living memory for one single reason, he does not respect the citizens. "
*cough* the bailout *cough* |
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"When he said last week that the government didn't do enough to convince the public to vote Yes-Yes I knew then that he misunderstand what politics should be.
The government are elected to listen to and represent the will of the people. Clearly he thinks the government are elected to rule the people. It's the people who are sovereign and Leo needed to realise that to realise he's been in the wrong job.
He's the worst Taoiseach in living memory for one single reason, he does not respect the citizens.
*cough* the bailout *cough*"
You've literally lived through Ahern and Cowen, a little bit of perspective here!
We're still living with their mess, will be for decades more! |
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By *erry cMan 35 weeks ago
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"When he said last week that the government didn't do enough to convince the public to vote Yes-Yes I knew then that he misunderstand what politics should be.
The government are elected to listen to and represent the will of the people. Clearly he thinks the government are elected to rule the people. It's the people who are sovereign and Leo needed to realise that to realise he's been in the wrong job.
He's the worst Taoiseach in living memory for one single reason, he does not respect the citizens.
*cough* the bailout *cough*
You've literally lived through Ahern and Cowen, a little bit of perspective here!
We're still living with their mess, will be for decades more!"
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By *erry cMan 35 weeks ago
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"When he said last week that the government didn't do enough to convince the public to vote Yes-Yes I knew then that he misunderstand what politics should be.
The government are elected to listen to and represent the will of the people. Clearly he thinks the government are elected to rule the people. It's the people who are sovereign and Leo needed to realise that to realise he's been in the wrong job.
He's the worst Taoiseach in living memory for one single reason, he does not respect the citizens.
*cough* the bailout *cough*
You've literally lived through Ahern and Cowen, a little bit of perspective here!
We're still living with their mess , will be for decades more!"
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Lots done, full employment, budget surplus etc.
But lots more left to do....that's what government is all about.
Will the next administration, perhaps Sinn Fein or a SF/Left alliance coalition, be able to magic up houses, repatriate immigrants, cut hospital patient queues.....
Of course they will.....
And how will they pay for all of this? Extra taxes al la Fine Gael or rifle the state coffers al la Fianna Fail.
We can look forward more of the same but this time with a ballot box in one hand and the other hand in our pockets. |
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By *cuk4funCouple 35 weeks ago
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"When he said last week that the government didn't do enough to convince the public to vote Yes-Yes I knew then that he misunderstand what politics should be.
The government are elected to listen to and represent the will of the people. Clearly he thinks the government are elected to rule the people. It's the people who are sovereign and Leo needed to realise that to realise he's been in the wrong job.
He's the worst Taoiseach in living memory for one single reason, he does not respect the citizens.
*cough* the bailout *cough*
You've literally lived through Ahern and Cowen, a little bit of perspective here!
We're still living with their mess , will be for decades more! well said"
Didn't Mary lou loo also state that if elected she would go again and again until she got a yes yes vote?
Sinn fein are ideally placed to take over but they face the same problems that the coalition face/faced . Plus they'll look after their base which will probably mean ,more support for unmarried mothers, more dole money etc etc .
As for Leo ,good riddance to him and his ilk ,trudeau and macron should follow suit .obnoxious bellends |
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By *cuk4funCouple 35 weeks ago
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"Who cares hes gone end of no doubt some other brainless person will step into his boots definitely needs to be an election to get those muppets out and try get things moving in right direction all these unvetted needs to be shipped back from where they came from like im sure the women and kids should not be left to fight the battles of the cowardly men that left home "
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Reading that without commas and capital letters is quite amusing  |
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"My guess is he got caught with his pants down or his hand in the cookie jar and he’s getting out before the news breaks. He’s only 45 "
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"which will probably mean more support for unmarried mothers
What a bizarre demographic to take aim at"
I think it's Bizarre too to use the term "Unmarried Mothers"  in this modern age of 2024 . It was used as a figure of speech (which I always found derogatory) in another time & era that has now passed thankfully. |
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"I'd say there's some scandal about to break and he fell on his sword to control the narrative. It's very rare that politicians jump from the gravy train without reason "
I honestly don't think there is going to be some "scandal" or "exposure" as others have stated here too.
He was apparently considering resigning at Christmas but held off till after Paddys Weekend as in today. I may not have liked Leo Varadkar for a few reasons but I won't open that 'can of worms' of immigration but I must say he did great things for our Economy & went above & beyond for employment & industry. He also handled Covid very well, restrictions, lockdowns etc....
I believe his resignation was influenced by a few factors but definitely not a sleazy scandal or a defaming exposure as some are assuming. Time will tell .... |
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"I'd say there's some scandal about to break and he fell on his sword to control the narrative. It's very rare that politicians jump from the gravy train without reason
I honestly don't think there is going to be some "scandal" or "exposure" as others have stated here too.
He was apparently considering resigning at Christmas but held off till after Paddys Weekend as in today. I may not have liked Leo Varadkar for a few reasons but I won't open that 'can of worms' of immigration but I must say he did great things for our Economy & went above & beyond for employment & industry. He also handled Covid very well, restrictions, lockdowns etc....
I believe his resignation was influenced by a few factors but definitely not a sleazy scandal or a defaming exposure as some are assuming. Time will tell ...."
He also told dup no hard border on the island. I would say, he has just had enough of Dail. |
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He went out with a real whimper in the end, from what could have been.
Ground down by the civil service and quangos!
LV came in as a libertarian, on the side of the private worker and business owners. Was supposed to tackle the volume of quangos we had, reduce taxes and shrink the nanny state...He never even started!
His biggest mistake? He went to far left, trying to placate people who were never going to vote for him anyway, in doing so he lost his base! |
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"Sure he still on gravy train minester n taioseach pension for life
He's laughing l"
Exactly (minister & Taiseach pension for life) & he's still gonna be a practicing TD.
We always had a housing crisis (just maybe not as bad as it is now) & also our health service crisis was always there too....Re- so many lashing out (not here) saying he didn't do anything to help these situations.
I think Leo Varadkar did a good job in the bailing out negotiations with Nama way back & he had a major impact & influence in getting the country back on it's feet financially. |
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By *iseekingbiCouple 35 weeks ago
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"He went out with a real whimper in the end, from what could have been.
Ground down by the civil service and quangos!
LV came in as a libertarian, on the side of the private worker and business owners. Was supposed to tackle the volume of quangos we had, reduce taxes and shrink the nanny state...He never even started!
His biggest mistake? He went to far left, trying to placate people who were never going to vote for him anyway, in doing so he lost his base!"
Fuckin hell. Leo too far left? Words we thought we'd never see. |
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"When he said last week that the government didn't do enough to convince the public to vote Yes-Yes I knew then that he misunderstand what politics should be.
The government are elected to listen to and represent the will of the people. Clearly he thinks the government are elected to rule the people. It's the people who are sovereign and Leo needed to realise that to realise he's been in the wrong job.
He's the worst Taoiseach in living memory for one single reason, he does not respect the citizens.
*cough* the bailout *cough*
You've literally lived through Ahern and Cowen, a little bit of perspective here!
We're still living with their mess, will be for decades more!"
Only because FG sold the NAMA properties to foreign investment funds. Imagine if they had sold them to Irish families at those discounted prices...
I'm not fan of Ahern either. Cowen was just the local d*unkard who was left holding the can |
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By *og-ManMan 35 weeks ago
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"He went out with a real whimper in the end, from what could have been.
Ground down by the civil service and quangos!
LV came in as a libertarian, on the side of the private worker and business owners. Was supposed to tackle the volume of quangos we had, reduce taxes and shrink the nanny state...He never even started!
His biggest mistake? He went to far left, trying to placate people who were never going to vote for him anyway, in doing so he lost his base!
Fuckin hell. Leo too far left? Words we thought we'd never see."
As in they were center right and he tried to move to left of his own base not left wing I think |
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"He went out with a real whimper in the end, from what could have been.
Ground down by the civil service and quangos!
LV came in as a libertarian, on the side of the private worker and business owners. Was supposed to tackle the volume of quangos we had, reduce taxes and shrink the nanny state...He never even started!
His biggest mistake? He went to far left, trying to placate people who were never going to vote for him anyway, in doing so he lost his base!
Fuckin hell. Leo too far left? Words we thought we'd never see.
As in they were center right and he tried to move to left of his own base not left wing I think "
I think he tried to appeal to those outside his own base, very much left of centre. Particularly when SF came with their brand of politics, being all things to all people.
FG with Leo at helm ignored their base and left the door wide open to independents. I do find it funny that people thinkn FG or FF are right of centre. Goes to show how good we have it here. It's like yanks thinking Bernie Sanders is a socialist! |
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By *oghunter33Woman 35 weeks ago
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"He went out with a real whimper in the end, from what could have been.
Ground down by the civil service and quangos!
LV came in as a libertarian, on the side of the private worker and business owners. Was supposed to tackle the volume of quangos we had, reduce taxes and shrink the nanny state...He never even started!
His biggest mistake? He went to far left, trying to placate people who were never going to vote for him anyway, in doing so he lost his base!
Fuckin hell. Leo too far left? Words we thought we'd never see.
As in they were center right and he tried to move to left of his own base not left wing I think
I think he tried to appeal to those outside his own base, very much left of centre. Particularly when SF came with their brand of politics, being all things to all people.
FG with Leo at helm ignored their base and left the door wide open to independents. I do find it funny that people thinkn FG or FF are right of centre. Goes to show how good we have it here. It's like yanks thinking Bernie Sanders is a socialist!"
Hu? Are you trying to say that FF and FG are left of centre?
I also fail to see where and when Leo swerved to the left. He always stuck to the FG party line.
Anyhow he's gone, and with him his bundle of lies. In comes the next clown, Simon Harris ....it's a bit like a mini carbon copy of the British prime minister succession of recent years.   |
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"He went out with a real whimper in the end, from what could have been.
Ground down by the civil service and quangos!
LV came in as a libertarian, on the side of the private worker and business owners. Was supposed to tackle the volume of quangos we had, reduce taxes and shrink the nanny state...He never even started!
His biggest mistake? He went to far left, trying to placate people who were never going to vote for him anyway, in doing so he lost his base!
Fuckin hell. Leo too far left? Words we thought we'd never see.
As in they were center right and he tried to move to left of his own base not left wing I think
I think he tried to appeal to those outside his own base, very much left of centre. Particularly when SF came with their brand of politics, being all things to all people.
FG with Leo at helm ignored their base and left the door wide open to independents. I do find it funny that people thinkn FG or FF are right of centre. Goes to show how good we have it here. It's like yanks thinking Bernie Sanders is a socialist!
Hu? Are you trying to say that FF and FG are left of centre?
I also fail to see where and when Leo swerved to the left. He always stuck to the FG party line.
Anyhow he's gone, and with him his bundle of lies. In comes the next clown, Simon Harris ....it's a bit like a mini carbon copy of the British prime minister succession of recent years. "
More so that I find it funny that people think they're even remotely right of centre, that belief is the result of decades of nanny stateism.
The left in this country has no foundation, there's always someone looking to out-left the other. It just continuously eats itself. We have no idea what right really is because we've never had it, thankfully.
As for Harris, a complete wet wipe. For him to become leader of FG would be the final nail in their coffin. They will be keeping company with Labour in no time! |
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"First question Harris will be asked is why he leaked confidential cabinet information and the carousel just turns again "
Exactly, and FG will be asked how they didn't support him in a vote of no confidence and instead opted for a disastrous GE, but now see him worthy of being their leader! 
You couldn't make this up! We're going into Tory charade country now! |
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By *oghunter33Woman 35 weeks ago
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"First question Harris will be asked is why he leaked confidential cabinet information and the carousel just turns again
Exactly, and FG will be asked how they didn't support him in a vote of no confidence and instead opted for a disastrous GE, but now see him worthy of being their leader!
You couldn't make this up! We're going into Tory charade country now!"
Harris is the only one thick enough to go for it. The other ones have bigger plans and wouldn't sacrify their political career to run the party for a lousy year with the prospect of ending it with a catastrophic general election. |
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I’m not a FG supporter, I think he has done a reasonable job in some areas and not so good in others. Do I believe he has done what he thought was best, I’m sure he has and has he got involved in politics for the right reasons, I believe that too. The scale of abuse our politicians and their families are receiving is reprehensible and I believe that is the reason he has resigned. Politicians should be scrutinised and held accountable, not abused and threatened. |
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By *og-ManMan 35 weeks ago
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"They all seem to me for Simon Harris at the dáil to be the next Taoiseach.... 
Its a walk over ...hes the winner with no challenger
It's ridiculous, nobody wants to take on the responsibility!! "
So many are leaving before they're pushed at the next election
Why would you want all the hassle |
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"They all seem to me for Simon Harris at the dáil to be the next Taoiseach....
Its a walk over ...hes the winner with no challenger
It's ridiculous, nobody wants to take on the responsibility!!
So many are leaving before they're pushed at the next election
Why would you want all the hassle "
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By *oghunter33Woman 35 weeks ago
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"I’m not a FG supporter, I think he has done a reasonable job in some areas and not so good in others. Do I believe he has done what he thought was best, I’m sure he has and has he got involved in politics for the right reasons, I believe that too. The scale of abuse our politicians and their families are receiving is reprehensible and I believe that is the reason he has resigned. Politicians should be scrutinised and held accountable, not abused and threatened. "
I agree with you that there's no room for abuse or threat.
However I've rarely ever witnessed that they're being held accountable or take responsibility for their fuck ups, unfortunately.  |
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I agree with you that there's no room for abuse or threat.
However I've rarely ever witnessed that they're being held accountable or take responsibility for their fuck ups, unfortunately. "
Politicians not being held to account is on us, we are a lazy electorate who complain to each other but that’s it. (I’m generalising I know but in the main, it’s true) |
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"I’m not a FG supporter, I think he has done a reasonable job in some areas and not so good in others. Do I believe he has done what he thought was best, I’m sure he has and has he got involved in politics for the right reasons, I believe that too. The scale of abuse our politicians and their families are receiving is reprehensible and I believe that is the reason he has resigned. Politicians should be scrutinised and held accountable, not abused and threatened. "
I'd agree. Going through social media since it happened and reading the abuse he's getting for his ethnicity and sexualitity from certain quarters of the political spectrum is horrendous. Not just from Irish people either but from British, northern Irish and even America. Attack the man for his politics not his personal life.
Not just him. I've seen horrendous stuff regarding his ministers especially the minister for justice. Too many have gone the American route of personal attacks now. |
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I agree with you that there's no room for abuse or threat.
However I've rarely ever witnessed that they're being held accountable or take responsibility for their fuck ups, unfortunately.
Politicians not being held to account is on us, we are a lazy electorate who complain to each other but that’s it. (I’m generalising I know but in the main, it’s true)"
Ireland as a nation, for all its bluff and bluster, is a shockingly lazy country when it comes to politics! |
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I'd agree. Going through social media since it happened and reading the abuse he's getting for his ethnicity and sexualitity from certain quarters of the political spectrum is horrendous. Not just from Irish people either but from British, northern Irish and even America. Attack the man for his politics not his personal life.
Not just him. I've seen horrendous stuff regarding his ministers especially the minister for justice. Too many have gone the American route of personal attacks now. "
Nothing on this earth is more pathetic than those Irish patriot types carrying on and imitating right wing British and American groups!
They're just angry about everything there is no point placating them. They've even turned on SF and PBP in the last year.
In some cases politicians do bring the abuse on themsleves, especially some of the parties that egged them on initially and now they're protesting outside Paul Murphys door!...McEntee walking through Dublin with a bus load of Gardai around her as a publicity stunt was just silly, asking for abuse! |
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I agree with you that there's no room for abuse or threat.
However I've rarely ever witnessed that they're being held accountable or take responsibility for their fuck ups, unfortunately.
Politicians not being held to account is on us, we are a lazy electorate who complain to each other but that’s it. (I’m generalising I know but in the main, it’s true)
Ireland as a nation, for all its bluff and bluster, is a shockingly lazy country when it comes to politics!"
I include myself in the lazy camp whereas my mum and dad were much more involved because there parents fought for the rights we take for granted |
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"They all seem to me for Simon Harris at the dáil to be the next Taoiseach....
Its a walk over ...hes the winner with no challenger
It's ridiculous, nobody wants to take on the responsibility!! "
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Why doesn't the Cork guy who looks like Voldemort take back the Taoiseach position again ? |
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I'd agree. Going through social media since it happened and reading the abuse he's getting for his ethnicity and sexualitity from certain quarters of the political spectrum is horrendous. Not just from Irish people either but from British, northern Irish and even America. Attack the man for his politics not his personal life.
Not just him. I've seen horrendous stuff regarding his ministers especially the minister for justice. Too many have gone the American route of personal attacks now.
Nothing on this earth is more pathetic than those Irish patriot types carrying on and imitating right wing British and American groups!
They're just angry about everything there is no point placating them. They've even turned on SF and PBP in the last year.
In some cases politicians do bring the abuse on themsleves, especially some of the parties that egged them on initially and now they're protesting outside Paul Murphys door!...McEntee walking through Dublin with a bus load of Gardai around her as a publicity stunt was just silly, asking for abuse!"
To go to a personal level on it isn't on though and uncalled for. I've my issues with the current government and their TDs but I wouldn't stoop to that level. As for turning on the PBP and sinn Fein the "patriots" were never with them in the first place. Far right will always go against what the left want. |
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To go to a personal level on it isn't on though and uncalled for. I've my issues with the current government and their TDs but I wouldn't stoop to that level. As for turning on the PBP and sinn Fein the "patriots" were never with them in the first place. Far right will always go against what the left want. "
Wether knowingly or unknowingly PBP and SF definitely courted a lot of these types initially. They started to lose them over last 10yrs as both parties supported progressive referendums and covid really brought the crazies out! |
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To go to a personal level on it isn't on though and uncalled for. I've my issues with the current government and their TDs but I wouldn't stoop to that level. As for turning on the PBP and sinn Fein the "patriots" were never with them in the first place. Far right will always go against what the left want.
Wether knowingly or unknowingly PBP and SF definitely courted a lot of these types initially. They started to lose them over last 10yrs as both parties supported progressive referendums and covid really brought the crazies out!"
The more hard line ones split from the likes of youth defense and young fine gael |
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To go to a personal level on it isn't on though and uncalled for. I've my issues with the current government and their TDs but I wouldn't stoop to that level. As for turning on the PBP and sinn Fein the "patriots" were never with them in the first place. Far right will always go against what the left want.
Wether knowingly or unknowingly PBP and SF definitely courted a lot of these types initially. They started to lose them over last 10yrs as both parties supported progressive referendums and covid really brought the crazies out!
The more hard line ones split from the likes of youth defense and young fine gael"
YFG, they've produced some real beauts over the years! |
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"They are the worst government to exist in my opinion all young Irish migrating no heath housing I'm delighted he's gone and the way he jumped of the ship when it's sinking sums him up as a leader "
There is going to be a real interesting and very angry era coming up in Ireland.
A lot of people say they're leaving Ireland because: Low pay, the cost of living is too high, can't afford a house etc.
They're going to the UK, Autralia, Canada...they may get a better lifestyle with weather and that, but the reality check around everything else will be ferocious! |
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"They are the worst government to exist in my opinion all young Irish migrating no heath housing I'm delighted he's gone and the way he jumped of the ship when it's sinking sums him up as a leader
There is going to be a real interesting and very angry era coming up in Ireland.
A lot of people say they're leaving Ireland because: Low pay, the cost of living is too high, can't afford a house etc.
They're going to the UK, Autralia, Canada...they may get a better lifestyle with weather and that, but the reality check around everything else will be ferocious!"
I agree but our country has really gone down in the last few years and governments that are in power don't care there so far away from reality its ridiculous if they put in have the effort that they but in to secure accommodation for asylum seekers for there own ppl imagine what could be done |
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Aragh go away outtathat...you're only against him coz o' the Enda Kenny heave!!!
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By *cuk4funCouple 35 weeks ago
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"which will probably mean more support for unmarried mothers
What a bizarre demographic to take aim at
I think it's Bizarre too to use the term "Unmarried Mothers" in this modern age of 2024 . It was used as a figure of speech (which I always found derogatory) in another time & era that has now passed thankfully. "
It's common lexicology ffs , it's used by commentators on radio /TV etc etc . |
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"which will probably mean more support for unmarried mothers
What a bizarre demographic to take aim at
I think it's Bizarre too to use the term "Unmarried Mothers" in this modern age of 2024 . It was used as a figure of speech (which I always found derogatory) in another time & era that has now passed thankfully.
It's common lexicology ffs , it's used by commentators on radio /TV etc etc . "
I honestly don't think it's that common anymore to use the term Unmarried Mothers in lexicology....I personally.... along with many others use the term Single Parents & some say Lone Parents..these terms also covers all sexes. |
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By *ermbiMan 35 weeks ago
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"They are the worst government to exist in my opinion all young Irish migrating no heath housing I'm delighted he's gone and the way he jumped of the ship when it's sinking sums him up as a leader
There is going to be a real interesting and very angry era coming up in Ireland.
A lot of people say they're leaving Ireland because: Low pay, the cost of living is too high, can't afford a house etc.
They're going to the UK, Autralia, Canada...they may get a better lifestyle with weather and that, but the reality check around everything else will be ferocious!"
The grass isn't greener elsewhere. Low wages in UK. Housing crisis in Australia with high prices smd higher cost of living. They're not going to find it easier in other places |
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By *iseekingbiCouple 35 weeks ago
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"He went out with a real whimper in the end, from what could have been.
Ground down by the civil service and quangos!
LV came in as a libertarian, on the side of the private worker and business owners. Was supposed to tackle the volume of quangos we had, reduce taxes and shrink the nanny state...He never even started!
His biggest mistake? He went to far left, trying to placate people who were never going to vote for him anyway, in doing so he lost his base!
Fuckin hell. Leo too far left? Words we thought we'd never see.
As in they were center right and he tried to move to left of his own base not left wing I think
I think he tried to appeal to those outside his own base, very much left of centre. Particularly when SF came with their brand of politics, being all things to all people.
FG with Leo at helm ignored their base and left the door wide open to independents. I do find it funny that people thinkn FG or FF are right of centre. Goes to show how good we have it here. It's like yanks thinking Bernie Sanders is a socialist!
Hu? Are you trying to say that FF and FG are left of centre?
I also fail to see where and when Leo swerved to the left. He always stuck to the FG party line.
Anyhow he's gone, and with him his bundle of lies. In comes the next clown, Simon Harris ....it's a bit like a mini carbon copy of the British prime minister succession of recent years. "
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FG and FF are both Tory parties without so much as a midge's Mickey between them. They will merge within 10 years. |
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What a bizarre demographic to take aim at
I think it's Bizarre too to use the term "Unmarried Mothers" in this modern age of 2024 . It was used as a figure of speech (which I always found derogatory) in another time & era that has now passed thankfully.
It's common lexicology ffs , it's used by commentators on radio /TV etc etc . "
I haven't heard the term "unmarried mother" in ages. It's almost always "single parent". |
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"which will probably mean more support for unmarried mothers
What a bizarre demographic to take aim at
I think it's Bizarre too to use the term "Unmarried Mothers" in this modern age of 2024 . It was used as a figure of speech (which I always found derogatory) in another time & era that has now passed thankfully.
It's common lexicology ffs , it's used by commentators on radio /TV etc etc . "
The wider context of your post read like you were using Sinn Fein to take a dig at the working class and vice versa.
Maybe that's not what you intended?
I haven't heard anyone use the term unmarried mother's in a very very long time.
It just doesn't have any relevance given that a lot of people just don't get married these days and there are plenty of male single parents out there too. |
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FG and FF are both Tory parties without so much as a midge's Mickey between them. They will merge within 10 years."
In my honest opinion, the political waters in Ireland are completely muddied, and its not by accident.
People out there think the likes of FF, FG are right wing or ultra conservative and that SF or PBP etc. are left of centre. They've been allowed to spew so much nonsense over the last decade, and people are swallowing it.
PBP and SF are both far-left. SF do try run with the hair and the hound for votes, but they're a staunch socialist party that strangely has a communist party management system.
PBP et al, are further left again, just plain communists.
They'll tell you what you want to hear, but Id guarantee not many of you want what they'd actually like to deliver. This has you believing any opposition is far right or conservative party. Just my tuppence worth. |
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By *ombikerMan 35 weeks ago
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"My guess is he got caught with his pants down or his hand in the cookie jar and he’s getting out before the news breaks. He’s only 45 "
I heard on the radio that he said he did not resign because of an imminent scandal about to come to light. Strange to deny something in an interview that was never asked. |
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By *og-ManMan 35 weeks ago
somewhere |
"My guess is he got caught with his pants down or his hand in the cookie jar and he’s getting out before the news breaks. He’s only 45
I heard on the radio that he said he did not resign because of an imminent scandal about to come to light. Strange to deny something in an interview that was never asked. "
Its been on social media and the newspapers all week
Thats what he was replying to when he was asked about social media |
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By (user no longer on site) 35 weeks ago
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FG and FF are both Tory parties without so much as a midge's Mickey between them. They will merge within 10 years.
In my honest opinion, the political waters in Ireland are completely muddied, and its not by accident.
People out there think the likes of FF, FG are right wing or ultra conservative and that SF or PBP etc. are left of centre. They've been allowed to spew so much nonsense over the last decade, and people are swallowing it.
PBP and SF are both far-left. SF do try run with the hair and the hound for votes, but they're a staunch socialist party that strangely has a communist party management system.
PBP et al, are further left again, just plain communists.
They'll tell you what you want to hear, but Id guarantee not many of you want what they'd actually like to deliver. This has you believing any opposition is far right or conservative party. Just my tuppence worth."
PBP will never, ever go into government with any party. They know rightly that they will be exposed for not being within an asses roar of being able to deliver any promise they make in a manifesto. Easier to roar from the sidelines than put a jersey on. |
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By *oo32Man 35 weeks ago
tipperary |
"When he said last week that the government didn't do enough to convince the public to vote Yes-Yes I knew then that he misunderstand what politics should be.
The government are elected to listen to and represent the will of the people. Clearly he thinks the government are elected to rule the people. It's the people who are sovereign and Leo needed to realise that to realise he's been in the wrong job.
He's the worst Taoiseach in living memory for one single reason, he does not respect the citizens. "
Haughey
Bertie
Cowen
Rate higher on the worst taoiseach list
Time will tell why he went...
He could be sick
He could have another opportunity
He could be facing a scandal
He could be an alien
He could have had threats made against him
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By *oo32Man 35 weeks ago
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"We need an election but till then it appears Simon Harris is it
Constitution states that is a Taioseach resigns in office, then the cabinet also has to resign"
There'll be general elections in 2025
I'd say the taoiseach will be replaced and that'll be it until then |
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By *oghunter33Woman 35 weeks ago
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FG and FF are both Tory parties without so much as a midge's Mickey between them. They will merge within 10 years.
In my honest opinion, the political waters in Ireland are completely muddied, and its not by accident.
People out there think the likes of FF, FG are right wing or ultra conservative and that SF or PBP etc. are left of centre. They've been allowed to spew so much nonsense over the last decade, and people are swallowing it.
PBP and SF are both far-left. SF do try run with the hair and the hound for votes, but they're a staunch socialist party that strangely has a communist party management system.
PBP et al, are further left again, just plain communists.
They'll tell you what you want to hear, but Id guarantee not many of you want what they'd actually like to deliver. This has you believing any opposition is far right or conservative party. Just my tuppence worth."
I've no idea how you come to this conclusion. There's nothing left of centre with FF and FG. They're both Conservative parties, not far right but defo on the right side of centre. SF isn't far left, they're actually on some topics on the right side and on some on the left and it has yet to be seen how left they will be when they're in power. I'd go that far that there's no valuable left in Ireland, the closest might be PBP but far too small to have any major impact. Same applies to social party. Just my 5 cents.  |
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"We need an election but till then it appears Simon Harris is it "
Yes Simon Harris is our new Taiseach.....& If my ears served me correctly....(on radio 1 yesterday)He has "Demanded that Simon Coveney along with Paschal O'Donoghue....(spelled wrong) has to 'run' for election as in ministers for whatever....yup.... |
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"We need an election but till then it appears Simon Harris is it
Yes Simon Harris is our new Taiseach.....& If my ears served me correctly....(on radio 1 yesterday)He has "Demanded that Simon Coveney along with Paschal O'Donoghue....(spelled wrong) has to 'run' for election as in ministers for whatever....yup...."
*Simon Coveney said I don't wanna Taiseach as ye know a few days ago.. But Simon Harris is demanding run for the elections (as in ministers of health, defence, or whatever etc........Simon Harris is on a power trip already
Our Government Is Falling Apart !!!! |
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"We need an election but till then it appears Simon Harris is it
Yes Simon Harris is our new Taiseach.....& If my ears served me correctly....(on radio 1 yesterday)He has "Demanded that Simon Coveney along with Paschal O'Donoghue....(spelled wrong) has to 'run' for election as in ministers for whatever....yup....
*Simon Coveney said I don't wanna Taiseach as ye know a few days ago.. But Simon Harris is demanding run for the elections (as in ministers of health, defence, or whatever etc........Simon Harris is on a power trip already
Our Government Is Falling Apart !!!!"
*Not forgetting that Simon Coveney was Our Minister Of Defence & (foreign affairs)......... Now he has a little 'upstart'...."Demanding"..... |
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"We need an election but till then it appears Simon Harris is it
Yes Simon Harris is our new Taiseach.....& If my ears served me correctly....(on radio 1 yesterday)He has "Demanded that Simon Coveney along with Paschal O'Donoghue....(spelled wrong) has to 'run' for election as in ministers for whatever....yup....
*Simon Coveney said I don't wanna Taiseach as ye know a few days ago.. But Simon Harris is demanding run for the elections (as in ministers of health, defence, or whatever etc........Simon Harris is on a power trip already
Our Government Is Falling Apart !!!!
*Not forgetting that Simon Coveney was Our Minister Of Defence & (foreign affairs)......... Now he has a little 'upstart'...."Demanding"....."
also, Simon Coveney has two uncertainties about him.
The impact on him of his brother in RTE has not been assessed at the polls.
He no longer resides in Cork South Central - so where will be run at the next GE...
Nice guy, tries to relate to ordinary workers but is ultimately super wealthy and his siblings prove how the super wealthy just get to super paid posts. He embodies the opposite to "Equal Opportunities" |
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By (user no longer on site) 34 weeks ago
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"We need an election but till then it appears Simon Harris is it
Yes Simon Harris is our new Taiseach.....& If my ears served me correctly....(on radio 1 yesterday)He has "Demanded that Simon Coveney along with Paschal O'Donoghue....(spelled wrong) has to 'run' for election as in ministers for whatever....yup....
*Simon Coveney said I don't wanna Taiseach as ye know a few days ago.. But Simon Harris is demanding run for the elections (as in ministers of health, defence, or whatever etc........Simon Harris is on a power trip already
Our Government Is Falling Apart !!!!
*Not forgetting that Simon Coveney was Our Minister Of Defence & (foreign affairs)......... Now he has a little 'upstart'...."Demanding".....
also, Simon Coveney has two uncertainties about him.
The impact on him of his brother in RTE has not been assessed at the polls.
He no longer resides in Cork South Central - so where will be run at the next GE...
Nice guy, tries to relate to ordinary workers but is ultimately super wealthy and his siblings prove how the super wealthy just get to super paid posts. He embodies the opposite to "Equal Opportunities""
Simon Coveney may leave Government too who knows. I don't like Simon Harris already & his Taiseach seat hasn't even warmed up.. apparently according to Radio I yesterday as I said he has "Demanded" that Simon Coveney runs for election & that's the word he used "Demanded"....I'd tell him to F-off with your Demands  |
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