The proper infrastructure for mass electric vehicles is probably another 15-20 years away and currently price per mile is just as bad as ice vehicles with the amount of pollution caused by using the grid to charge them and like any newer vehicle if you buy new they lose 40% of there value as soon as they leave the showroom |
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Noooope, hes going bust apparently! EV sales are also slowing, they're not practical cost-effective or environmentally friendly, despite all the hype, hertz rentals have ditched Tesla as they're too expensive to maintain and repair! |
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By *og-ManMan 51 weeks ago
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"I have a little niggle in the back of my head that one day all the chinese EV's will break down at the exact same time across the world ... 
...or they'll all transform and take over the world!  "
Great something else to worry about
Op drove a Tesla once ...build quality was shit to be honest
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Tesla are lovely car
2 yrs this week
Range anxiety and charge location can be a issue
Home charger good job
Depends on the type of driving you are doing
As regards reliability or maintenance tyres only thing that have been replaced
Think they are excellent car
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Electric Car batteries are way too expensive to replace presently and are anticipated to be replaced after 7-10 years as they wear out. Fk that. I’ll stick to the tried and tested motorcars and their tried and tested infrastructure for the near future.
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By (user no longer on site) 51 weeks ago
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Petrol hybrids are the way forward, we don’t have the EV infrastructure to support full electric. And I believe people will be shocked when their batteries need replacement |
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Simply not true.
Been driving one for three years and no issues whatsoever. Full charge costs 8c per kw/hr on night rate. It's already been proven that EV's are far cheaper to fuel. 100km round trip commute costs me less than €2 a day. Practically zero maintenance after 190,000km other than brake pads and discs. Pre-heated car on frosty mornings. Fun to drive, safe to drive, quiet (I don't give a shit about macho engine noises)
You don't need that much of an infrastructure if you're charging at home and you have a car with good range, which most new EV's have.
Talk to owners.
"The proper infrastructure for mass electric vehicles is probably another 15-20 years away and currently price per mile is just as bad as ice vehicles with the amount of pollution caused by using the grid to charge them and like any newer vehicle if you buy new they lose 40% of there value as soon as they leave the showroom "
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"Noooope, hes going bust apparently! EV sales are also slowing, they're not practical cost-effective or environmentally friendly, despite all the hype, hertz rentals have ditched Tesla as they're too expensive to maintain and repair! "
The company's not there stock is up, plus he's quite literally the richest man on the planet.
As for their cars, the build quality isn't on par with german stuff but the average user won't notice. Provided your not a traveling sales rep or something there a fantastic automobile and very viable. Initial cost is steep but after that your money in the bank.
Solar panels for your home and an eV is a great shout right now, if you do the math its a worthy investment.
Price of fuel for your car and home is ridiculous and it only ever goes one way... |
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"Noooope, hes going bust apparently! EV sales are also slowing, they're not practical cost-effective or environmentally friendly, despite all the hype, hertz rentals have ditched Tesla as they're too expensive to maintain and repair!
The company's not there stock is up, plus he's quite literally the richest man on the planet.
As for their cars, the build quality isn't on par with german stuff but the average user won't notice. Provided your not a traveling sales rep or something there a fantastic automobile and very viable. Initial cost is steep but after that your money in the bank.
Solar panels for your home and an eV is a great shout right now, if you do the math its a worthy investment.
Price of fuel for your car and home is ridiculous and it only ever goes one way... "
"Bloke said down the pub!"
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"I have a little niggle in the back of my head that one day all the chinese EV's will break down at the exact same time across the world ... "
That niggle is probably just the chip that the government fitted in you when you got the Covid19 vaccine moving from your upper arm to the back of your head.
But you are probably right that all the EV's will stop one day just like all the computer systems did with the Millennium Bug.
But at least Santa will still be dropping down chimneys on Christmas Eve....as I well know.
The world is a big round ball and it just keeps on a spinnin.
Ho ho ho. |
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"Petrol hybrids are the way forward, we don’t have the EV infrastructure to support full electric. And I believe people will be shocked when their batteries need replacement "
Petrol hybrids are a complete racket. They are a total waste of time.
I personally think they should be banned as they're wasting resources.
If you buy one, you need to understand, you're buying a petrol car! |
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By *ub_TMan 50 weeks ago
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I find it amusing ppl think driving electric cars will be the saviours of the planet.
And the price of the things are literally off the charts too. I’m still nowhere near convinced.
I do my bit recycling etc and saving energy, but buying electric won’t happen. |
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The company has very kindly given me a Volvo XC40 fully electric, then the landlord tells me that I can't fit a charger.
For me the car is nice, but it costs me between £10 and £40 to charge the thing depending which public charger I use.
I get between 250 to 280 miles on a full charge, but that depends on how cold the battery is. Also having the heater on take between 10 to 40 miles off my range. I only use that to demist the windows.
The is nice to drive, very quick acceleration.
Would I buy one, not yet. |
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Owned a few teslas (model3 and y)
Fuel wise - cheap on night time rates but if you use superchargers it wont be much cheaper than diesel/petrol. £20 will get me down to london from manchester.
Drive wise - beautiful driving experience. Im a tech nerd so i fell in love with the features quickly. Namely the cruise controls ability to slow down and stop by itself in standstill traffic on the motorway and the sensors for vehicles, pedestrians etc near you on the screen are really cool.
Also very smooth drive and the newer models are apparently much quieter than before.
Design wise - very minimalistic both inside and out.
Personally i love the mininalism but i cant deny the bmw i4 is definitely more stylish. - also test drove the i4 and drive wise it was just as good if not better but the tech wasnt anywhere near as impressive. Still better than merc and audis ev’s though.
Range wise - never really had issues. Couple of times on late night drives between manchester and london iv struggled to find a charger but if i leave with 100% i can make the journey with a good 30% left over so not bad at all.
This next part is very important
Hidden costs!
Unless youre in your 60s the insurance will be a similar quote to a porsche. I couldnt even get a quote at 31 years old. Had to use my 70 year old father with myself as additional driver and the cheapest quote was £600 for a model 3.
Also i hear damage can be very expensive to fix but luckily iv never had issues.
To conclude i must say i have to recommend it. If it fits within your budget and youre tech savvy you’ll absolutely love the car. |
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"Tesla are lovely car
2 yrs this week
Range anxiety and charge location can be a issue
Home charger good job
Depends on the type of driving you are doing
As regards reliability or maintenance tyres only thing that have been replaced
Think they are excellent car
Also have diesel car vans as well "
Is it a used tesla or bland new? |
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One of my concerns is the power grid. At the moment the ratio of electric to petrol/diesel vehicles is low. If everyone was to have an electric where is the power to come from. I know people will say solar/wind but you can't rely on the weather in this country. New reservoirs will need to be build to run hydro electric plants which will mean displacing towns and villages and the flooding of the countryside which correct me if I'm wrong will mean destroying the enviroment.
At the moment single pieces of plant equipment used to mine the materials needed to make the batteries are using approximately 1000s of litres of diesel a day so how is this helping the enviroment?
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By (user no longer on site) 32 weeks ago
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I personally don’t see what the big hype is about them but my son absolutely loves them! Last October when we went on holiday we started a game to count how many we saw and it’s continued since! The count is currently 627! |
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"One of my concerns is the power grid. At the moment the ratio of electric to petrol/diesel vehicles is low. If everyone was to have an electric where is the power to come from. I know people will say solar/wind but you can't rely on the weather in this country. New reservoirs will need to be build to run hydro electric plants which will mean displacing towns and villages and the flooding of the countryside which correct me if I'm wrong will mean destroying the enviroment.
At the moment single pieces of plant equipment used to mine the materials needed to make the batteries are using approximately 1000s of litres of diesel a day so how is this helping the enviroment?
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The manufacture of the battery alone uses approx 9 years of emissions of a diesel car.
And that doesn't include the mining process. |
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Also you need to.think if your going to be selling it in a few years. At present a lot of garages won't take second hand ev as they are having trouble selling them. Also in the UK some insurance companies have stopped insuring them as they are costing far more to.repair than an ice vehicle |
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The infrastructure and power girds are urgently just not able to support them them at the moment and in probably another 15//0 years time the Hydrogen engine technology will be probably be a major contender against them. |
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By (user no longer on site) 32 weeks ago
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People are only buying teslas because they are a fashion trend.
Keep away from EV cars they are financial suicide no dealer wants them as a trade in depreciation is astronomical and a lot of manufacturers have scraped their EV production.
The ICE is here to stay for awhile yet thank god |
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When Henry Ford build cars ppl said no way would I buy one of those yolks no way, sure you have to put a highly flammable liquid into them as fuel( I'll bet that's perfectly safe) and the tyres wear out you've got to buy new ones and when something breaks you have to go to the garage and pay to have it fixed.... no way would I ever buy one of those. I'm sticking with my trusty horse boi, never let's me down and all she wants is a sup of water and a field of grass as fuel. Nope I'll never ever buy one of those car things.
Funny isn't it
Mechanics and fancy garages must be seriously packing it. Oil companies probably not liking the evs either hmmmm?? |
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By *og-ManMan 32 weeks ago
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Just ordered a new car ...2 litre diesel
I can get 1100kms from a full tank
There's filling stations
everywhere when it takes me 5 mins to fill one tank,empty another and get a coffee
I'll hold off as long as possible before I have to switch
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By *otryMan 32 weeks ago
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I have 1 as a work van. 100k in less than 2 years I wouldn't go bk. I can pull upto alot of customer sites plug in charge for free and drive home. Charge the car over a weekend for free off solar. Would I buy 1 for personal use. Probably not. Haha |
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"Just ordered a new car ...2 litre diesel
I can get 1100kms from a full tank
There's filling stations
everywhere when it takes me 5 mins to fill one tank,empty another and get a coffee
I'll hold off as long as possible before I have to switch
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Plugging in at home means i only spend 2 seconds to fill up…
The idea that all tesla drivers spend hours sitting in their cars charging isnt true. We charge at home therefore dont ever worry about not having fuel. Nevermind sitting in the car and waiting for it to charge lmao
Imagine if you could fill up your petrol/diesel tank at home. Thats what its like.
Not sure the last time i travelled more than 250 miles in 1 journey. If very long journeys is a regular thing for you then yeah might be best to hold off for now  |
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I like mine… but don’t let anyone fool you that they are environmentally more friendly.
Plus it’s a lifestyle - every long trip has to be planned and you have to plan accordingly ahead. A few 30-40min breaks.
Today was nasty, had a trailer - could hardly do 60-70km and had to charge!!! It became a never ending nightmare
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"I like mine… but don’t let anyone fool you that they are environmentally more friendly.
Plus it’s a lifestyle - every long trip has to be planned and you have to plan accordingly ahead. A few 30-40min breaks.
Today was nasty, had a trailer - could hardly do 60-70km and had to charge!!! It became a never ending nightmare
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They're quite powerful, I didn't think a trailer would take that much out of them! |
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The only value you can get is to own it until it dies on you! Presently no garage will accept a 2nd hand EV car! Guy at work bought one, 44k paid 3yr old, 42klm on the clock had sell it privately only got 13,500 for it!
Do your own research! Loads of garage tik toks saying they have ditched ALL EV'S now. |
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By *og-ManMan 27 weeks ago
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"Got an ID4 in January, and I absolutely it. Bit of a learning curve and would find it difficult to go back to diesel. Probably wouldn't get a Tesla because musk is a prick "
Does it not annoy you with the price drop since you bought it |
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Range, reliability and resale are the main things to consider. Most EVs on the market cant guarantee you any of these, no mention of battery life either or replacement costs.
Horror stories of them stopping , breaking down, no idea how to fix, price and life of tyres, batteries overheating and fires, charging infrastructure. We are still importing coal from Poland to burn for the ESB.
Better batteries and faster charging ones are on the way, this will devalue and make your current car more obselete.
Ask any recovery / tow truck driver what he thinks of them before you buy one.
Take a half step and buy a self charging hybrid.
Pure Evs are still have still a long way to go.
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By (user no longer on site) 26 weeks ago
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Company car, no running costs, no repair costs £16pm Bik and 11p a mile claim back for home charging with charger fitted by company.
Quiet comfortable and bloody quick.
Wouldn't buy one personally as new windscreen was 3k if I had to repair myself. |
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Not really. It's on a PCP so it's getting changed in before it's due its first service.
"Got an ID4 in January, and I absolutely it. Bit of a learning curve and would find it difficult to go back to diesel. Probably wouldn't get a Tesla because musk is a prick
Does it not annoy you with the price drop since you bought it "
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