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By *og-Man OP Man
over a year ago
somewhere |
Not a topic I'd normally bring up and haven't seen it asked before so I'll jump in feet first
My situation....I officially dont have a religion...had my Catholic baptism officially revoked
I presume that some people on here are religious ....baptised,married in a church and even go to their church every week
Not knocking anyone's religion
But how do you reconcile your lifestyle with the teachings of your church
Do you struggle with it at all
Do you park it to one side and ignore what your church says
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm not sure when I last stood ina church do I miss it No ... I do have my beliefs I'd like to think there is a after life and I will get to see my parents again, |
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JASUS OP, you must have been VERY BOLD for that to happen(joking).  
Go question OP.
I'd be Catholic religion wise. Not a practicing catholic. I only go to mass 1's a year mainly this past 7 year's, during the summer. Before that it was just mid-night at Christmas & maybe the odd time during the year before that.
Never been very big into religion or practicing it either.
I don't think about religion in anyway in my day to day life, as it's the last thing on my mind. That might change in the future, can't see it happening, at the same time.  
Have a family member that used to say there 50 prayers, morning & evening, good to mass every weekend. But once at home after mass & for most of the week, would turn into the Devil BIG time. By being around this person, put me off religion over time, aswell as other stuff, that became public over the year's. |
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By *astelloWoman
over a year ago
Far far away |
I have a sense of spirituality not organised religion per se. I was brought up as a RC.
As for resolving conflicting lifestyles and beliefs. I have no ethical dilemmas as I'm clear about where I stand. |
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Originally Catholic. Baptised as one. Don't really believe in religion at all. No problem with people that do. You die you die. The only thing that matters is the legacy you left behind while alive  |
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By *om TangoMan
over a year ago
aughnacloy monaghan area |
Catholic but don’t go to church. However I do believe there is something out there. As I got older and started to listen to ur man giving out to us sinners I decided it wasn’t for me. I witness a priest turning a woman away from once because she was technically married in the eyes of the church and was living in sin with another man and had a child to her new man. That lady had an abused pass by her husband. He kicked fuck out of her. She took herself and her kid one night and headed back home to Monaghan and fell in love with an old school sweetheart. So basically the Catholic religion says once ur married u stay. FOR BETTER OR FOR WORST. She would have been staying for the kickings or worst. |
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After the The Church refused to allow me to resign and have my name removed from the church members register I printed a manifesto by a historically heinous fellow, signed it and pinned it to the notice board of a convenient church. It was there a few weeks before the priest noticed and took it down.
Don't know if they did the paper work but technically I should be excommunicated.
I have no qualms about my religion and sexual pleasure |
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The only time I'm in a church is for a wedding or funeral (far too many in the last year) and anniversary masses for parents and grandparents.
I also attend Cemetery mass where my parents are buried.
Religion was important to them and my grandparents and they were all important to me so I'm there in memory of them and no other reason. |
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I grew up RC, but now hate the church and everything organised religion stands for. Totally appalled at the staunch catholics in this country for standing by so many sex offenders, child abusers and those who tore babies from their mothers
I am very Spiritual and connect with Spirit without the corrupt man in the middle |
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I don't belief in the institution of church. Especially, the Christian ones. Could go into a rant on them but that would take too long. Do I belief there's something out there? Pretty sure I do. Also, if I remember correctly monogamy is a more recent concept in the history of humans  .
My other half goes up in smoke if he enters a church  . Probably because he's ordained with the Pastafari  |
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I'd be very surprised if there were practicing Catholics or Protestants on here.
I'd be spiritual (like some of the above posters), I'm open to the idea that death isn't the end, an Agnostic I suppose. Mrs. |
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By *og-Man OP Man
over a year ago
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"I'd be very surprised if there were practicing Catholics or Protestants on here.
I'd be spiritual (like some of the above posters), I'm open to the idea that death isn't the end, an Agnostic I suppose. Mrs."
I deliberately didn't name a religion as I don't know enough about most of them but I know some religions allow multiple wifes
Wonder what they say about multiple sexual partners |
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Pam was a convent school girl, untouched and went to a RC Training College where she 'fell' and got fucked by Patrick who wouldn't use a condom. He said it was a sin! So it was coitus inter-ruptus and Pam left unfulfilled. So much for religion eh?
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Catholic, as a kid loved Latin Mass and sang in the choir.My eyes opened in the late 80s to the lies.My parish priest had a heart attack and died in a gay sauna.I think I'm an atheist at this stage.I don't believe in life after death. But still have the aul Catholic guilt there,but not in the bedroom or hotel room lolKindness is always my goal to all |
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By *og-Man OP Man
over a year ago
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"Catholic, as a kid loved Latin Mass and sang in the choir.My eyes opened in the late 80s to the lies.My parish priest had a heart attack and died in a gay sauna.I think I'm an atheist at this stage.I don't believe in life after death. But still have the aul Catholic guilt there,but not in the bedroom or hotel room lolKindness is always my goal to all"
I fitted out that Gay Sauna....Incognito...across from Whitefriar street church
Other priests in there gave him the last rites
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"Catholic, as a kid loved Latin Mass and sang in the choir.My eyes opened in the late 80s to the lies.My parish priest had a heart attack and died in a gay sauna.I think I'm an atheist at this stage.I don't believe in life after death. But still have the aul Catholic guilt there,but not in the bedroom or hotel room lolKindness is always my goal to all
I fitted out that Gay Sauna....Incognito...across from Whitefriar street church
Other priests in there gave him the last rites
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I'm pissing my sides at that lol |
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By *og-Man OP Man
over a year ago
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"Catholic, as a kid loved Latin Mass and sang in the choir.My eyes opened in the late 80s to the lies.My parish priest had a heart attack and died in a gay sauna.I think I'm an atheist at this stage.I don't believe in life after death. But still have the aul Catholic guilt there,but not in the bedroom or hotel room lolKindness is always my goal to all
I fitted out that Gay Sauna....Incognito...across from Whitefriar street church
Other priests in there gave him the last rites
I'm pissing my sides at that lol"
There's more
Eventually it had a big fire and everyone got out ok...but not everyone had clothes as they ran out in the nip
The guards dropped a lot of married men home that night in clothes taken from the lost property section of the local cop shop and left the men to explain why to their wives |
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Raised Lutheran.
Like many here, I don't practice a religion or have much time for organised religion, for that matter.
But I'm definitely a spiritual person. I have faith and hold certain beliefs.
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By *panishRebelMan
over a year ago
Alicante Spain, and Cork City Ireland |
I remain a believer. Born into a serious Christian active family. To write out how I reconcile things fully.... This isn't the place... Not enough room. But the tendency of people in general, both individually and collectively is to nail their understanding to a wall and to fight, to die, enforce by it. I am comfortable in my freedom, although I would be uncomfortable in the inherent confrontation and cocktail of emotions that would swirl up if everyone knew. So I am comfortable with a degree of privacy.
Everyone is effectively religious in that their beliefs influence and dictate their actions in lifestyle and things they accept or won't accept. Many atheists display every bit the ferver of Christianity I was brought up with.
What I am getting at is, as long as my conscience is clear I have know issue. I find the truth of acceptance liberating. The truth sets me free. I can fuck, love, with out violence many people.
Some only fuck or love one, but there is violence. I am sure that an honest God, knows that full well seeing as He does what's inside. People of all kinds only see what they want to see.
So I am content at where I am.
I will one hopefully get to ask Solomon how he managed several hundred wives and several hundred concubines.
Enough on that.
Any up for drink in Alicante anytime soon? |
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By *indenMan
over a year ago
Naas which is South West of Dublin |
I have an awareness of science, spirituality and faith in my moral compass, without conflict.
Happy to be judged should the occasion arise and respectful and tolerant of all, (just in case……  ) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I do believe in god and the after life. I do believe there is more than where we are all at right now.
Christian faith no. The absolute mockery they have made of innocent people throughout centuries that’s not religion that’s the lowest of the low on an absolute power trip.
As for God I think in his/her eyes there’s a lot worse we could be doing than swinging. I believe once no one is being hurt no harm done
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Christened, confirmed and married
C of I, I attended church every Sunday til my mid twenties by which stage I was favouring agnosticism. I'm now firmly atheist.
I've no problem attending weddings & funerals in church because those things aren't about me.
And I still love the ritual of a C of I service even though I'm a non believer |
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"I do believe in god and the after life. I do believe there is more than where we are all at right now.
Christian faith no. The absolute mockery they have made of innocent people throughout centuries that’s not religion that’s the lowest of the low on an absolute power trip.
As for God I think in his/her eyes there’s a lot worse we could be doing than swinging. I believe once no one is being hurt no harm done
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This is a great mindset to have ! I’m the same I do believe there is something more than just us but it would be an incredibly sad life to live thinking there’s nothing after life ! |
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"I do believe in god and the after life. I do believe there is more than where we are all at right now.
Christian faith no. The absolute mockery they have made of innocent people throughout centuries that’s not religion that’s the lowest of the low on an absolute power trip.
As for God I think in his/her eyes there’s a lot worse we could be doing than swinging. I believe once no one is being hurt no harm done
This is a great mindset to have ! I’m the same I do believe there is something more than just us but it would be an incredibly sad life to live thinking there’s nothing after life ! "
I don't feel sad about it at all. I'll have lived my life; given and received love; made memories for my children. That's enough for me. |
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I would go to Church at least once a month, at a minimum because of my shift work meaning I couldn’t go twice a month. When my children were younger, I would bring them to the ‘Children’s Service’ once a month. I would read a Lesson occasionally and have done that since I was about twelve. I would have no problem standing in front of a thousand people and speak to them because of this, it was a great way to gain confidence. I go because I believe in God. I also don’t need to be inside a Church to speak to God and many times I do speak to him a day, mostly because of people I deal with on a daily basis who drive me crazy. I would never disrespect any person over their beliefs or their God in whatever shape of form. Because I go to Church, does not mean I’m a religious nut or I’m ‘one of them’ or anything else.
What I do find funny is people who say they don’t have a religion but don’t have a problem getting their children baptised or First Communion or Confirmation. That to me is hypocritical as the parents don’t believe but don’t want their children to miss out or stand out. If it’s because they need to send them to the local school as it’s run by the Catholic Church or the Church of Ireland, they can enrol their children in an educate together school and if there’s one not nearby, they can drive them that extra bit because if you don’t have a religion, you can’t use the religious school, Church, religious graveyard when it suits you. I also don’t know why people who have no religion, want a funeral. Would they not just go and get cremated and let their family scatter their ashes. Why would they want to be buried in a graveyard and have a priest or clergyman, which ever your persuasion is, stand over them and officiate at their funeral or even have a removal service or a funeral service.
Have the Catholic Church and the Church of Ireland done some very bad things in the past? Yes they have. Absolutely awful. I have flicked through a report released recently about abuse in Ireland by both Church’s and I tell you something, it wasn’t something God told them to do. It was power and greed that made the people do those things and hide behind God when they were caught on it. |
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No matter what your belief is I think the greatest insult is not living the life you were gifted were not saints so were all going to make mistakes and hurt others along the way iam spiritual myself but I moral and always set good intentions unity
Univers were all connected religion bring in divide and disconnect for your higher being |
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Never really gave it much thought, to be honest. I believe in heaven, being reunited with loved ones, the happily ever after I suppose. I would say I’m a catholic, I go to mass at Christmas, I’d baptize my children incase anything happened to them, I’d want the last rites if I was dying. But it makes me uncomfortable that I believe in a god that makes children sick and when there’s so many people starving and dying from hunger. It galls me that the Catholic Church has taken no responsibility for their actions towards women and children in this country, and seem unrepentant and devoid of any guilt remorse or shame… I think sub consciously I’m afraid not to believe just incase I don’t get to see the people I’ve lost again. Ha! |
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"I would go to Church at least once a month, at a minimum because of my shift work meaning I couldn’t go twice a month. When my children were younger, I would bring them to the ‘Children’s Service’ once a month. I would read a Lesson occasionally and have done that since I was about twelve. I would have no problem standing in front of a thousand people and speak to them because of this, it was a great way to gain confidence. I go because I believe in God. I also don’t need to be inside a Church to speak to God and many times I do speak to him a day, mostly because of people I deal with on a daily basis who drive me crazy. I would never disrespect any person over their beliefs or their God in whatever shape of form. Because I go to Church, does not mean I’m a religious nut or I’m ‘one of them’ or anything else.
What I do find funny is people who say they don’t have a religion but don’t have a problem getting their children baptised or First Communion or Confirmation. That to me is hypocritical as the parents don’t believe but don’t want their children to miss out or stand out. If it’s because they need to send them to the local school as it’s run by the Catholic Church or the Church of Ireland, they can enrol their children in an educate together school and if there’s one not nearby, they can drive them that extra bit because if you don’t have a religion, you can’t use the religious school, Church, religious graveyard when it suits you. I also don’t know why people who have no religion, want a funeral. Would they not just go and get cremated and let their family scatter their ashes. Why would they want to be buried in a graveyard and have a priest or clergyman, which ever your persuasion is, stand over them and officiate at their funeral or even have a removal service or a funeral service.
Have the Catholic Church and the Church of Ireland done some very bad things in the past? Yes they have. Absolutely awful. I have flicked through a report released recently about abuse in Ireland by both Church’s and I tell you something, it wasn’t something God told them to do. It was power and greed that made the people do those things and hide behind God when they were caught on it. "
For long enough there weren't many options here for a non-religious celebration of the life of someone who died. Until just recently there was only one crematorium in NI. Humanist funerals are still not particularly common and there are no natural burial sites in NI. So, it's still not easy to do things differently from the expected norm here and I think a lot of people go with the traditional because it's logistically easier for those organising it, rather than it being something the particularly want.
With regards to schools, I actually didn't have any option other than to send my children to a Church of England school as I lived in a rural area with sporadic public transport and no car available to me. However the school welcomed children of all faiths and none, and it was possible to withdraw children from the religious aspects of the curriculum if you so wished. |
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"Never really gave it much thought, to be honest. I believe in heaven, being reunited with loved ones, the happily ever after I suppose. I would say I’m a catholic, I go to mass at Christmas, I’d baptize my children incase anything happened to them, I’d want the last rites if I was dying. But it makes me uncomfortable that I believe in a god that makes children sick and when there’s so many people starving and dying from hunger. It galls me that the Catholic Church has taken no responsibility for their actions towards women and children in this country, and seem unrepentant and devoid of any guilt remorse or shame… I think sub consciously I’m afraid not to believe just incase I don’t get to see the people I’ve lost again. Ha!"
Just have your own perception of life..and obviously I know what you’re saying I’d have my kids baptised christened and all the jazz .. but that’s keeping up with appearances..just have your own beliefs no one can take that from you |
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My mother is Church of England my father is Irish RC. Father forcably adopted by parish priest and abused in Bessborough mother and baby home and then again in boarding school Rockwell. Laura also forcably at insistence of priest, adopted and mistrated in Dublin mother and baby home, and again by first adopted RC parents, then returned to baby home to be readopted again.
Lied to continuously by adoption agencies in attempt to find original birth parents. Told different lies by different people in order to hide the abuse.
Actively dispise religion and will cross the road to pass a priest and try and resist the urge to spit.
Don't believe in the supernatural at all. |
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"My mother is Church of England my father is Irish RC. Father forcably adopted by parish priest and abused in Bessborough mother and baby home and then again in boarding school Rockwell. Laura also forcably at insistence of priest, adopted and mistrated in Dublin mother and baby home, and again by first adopted RC parents, then returned to baby home to be readopted again.
Lied to continuously by adoption agencies in attempt to find original birth parents. Told different lies by different people in order to hide the abuse.
Actively dispise religion and will cross the road to pass a priest and try and resist the urge to spit.
Don't believe in the supernatural at all."
Well said and I'm sorry to hear about your collective experiences
We're both atheist here and have some pretty strong thoughts about organized religion and happy enough to discuss faith and history rationally with calm-minded folks when appropriate. We don't enjoy violence or confrontation so we keep to ourselves mainly though.
Bold topic to bring up OP - heartening to see people sharing their stances without vitriol though  |
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Growing up I was an altar boy and took it all very seriously when others didn't but then again that meant they were all missing out on the tips for weddings and the couple of hours out of school twice a week for weddings and funerals so there was method in my madness.
I also went to a Christian Bros school.
Never had any issues personally with priests or brothers although a couple of them were wicked bastards.
I had more problems with lay teachers.
As an adult I realised I was attending more out of habit rather than belief and as soon as the scandals hit the news I stopped going to church apart from weddings and funerals.
As a sidenote though I know 2 people I went to that CBS with who have since made abuse claims against the brothers and another who claimed against a local priest and had big payouts.
Two of those have since been convicted of making false insurance claims and the other was locked up for a while for abusing family members so how much truth there was in their abuse claims is hard to tell at this stage. |
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"I do believe in god and the after life. I do believe there is more than where we are all at right now.
Christian faith no. The absolute mockery they have made of innocent people throughout centuries that’s not religion that’s the lowest of the low on an absolute power trip.
As for God I think in his/her eyes there’s a lot worse we could be doing than swinging. I believe once no one is being hurt no harm done
This is a great mindset to have ! I’m the same I do believe there is something more than just us but it would be an incredibly sad life to live thinking there’s nothing after life !
I don't feel sad about it at all. I'll have lived my life; given and received love; made memories for my children. That's enough for me."
Exactly everyone makes mistakes lies etc. People do what they gotta do to survive and protect anyone they take care of.
It’s the Ying Yang of life.
The problem is when any person intentionally goes out to hurt others and has no care or boundaries for what they are doing I think that’s when God or whoever you believe in may have a problem.
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It's not sad living life without an afterlife. It's joyous. You don't need to spend your life cowing down under a dude in a dress in another country. You don't need to constantly apologise for human nature. You don't need to congratulate a man in the sky and give his representatives on earth a portion of your income. You don't have to pretend to believe in fairytales or miracles. You can just look and wonder at the world and universe around you and your part in it and know that you're made of stars. |
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"It's not sad living life without an afterlife. It's joyous. You don't need to spend your life cowing down under a dude in a dress in another country. You don't need to constantly apologise for human nature. You don't need to congratulate a man in the sky and give his representatives on earth a portion of your income. You don't have to pretend to believe in fairytales or miracles. You can just look and wonder at the world and universe around you and your part in it and know that you're made of stars."
There's some nice versions of an afterlife that don't require penance or prostration.
As the Buddha said
Where does the flame go when it is extinguished?
Same with Christ, Muhammad, Solomon. Probably all good chaps until the People's Liberation Front took charge. Or was it The People's Front for Liberation
Unfortunately all of the great women were written out of history or relegated to side kicks. Mary Magdalene must have been a mighty woman to keep her name in the holy books.
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"I have zero interest in an afterlife. I intend to live a full enough life that at the end of it, I am ready to return to dust.
A vampire. I fucking knew it
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Lol now I know why you have been “alive” |
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You can be non-religious and also open to the idea of some form of Afterlife; not in the way religion teaches but in another form.
People can believe what they want to believe, whatever makes them feel better about their lives. No judgement |
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"I would go to Church at least once a month, at a minimum because of my shift work meaning I couldn’t go twice a month. When my children were younger, I would bring them to the ‘Children’s Service’ once a month. I would read a Lesson occasionally and have done that since I was about twelve. I would have no problem standing in front of a thousand people and speak to them because of this, it was a great way to gain confidence. I go because I believe in God. I also don’t need to be inside a Church to speak to God and many times I do speak to him a day, mostly because of people I deal with on a daily basis who drive me crazy. I would never disrespect any person over their beliefs or their God in whatever shape of form. Because I go to Church, does not mean I’m a religious nut or I’m ‘one of them’ or anything else.
What I do find funny is people who say they don’t have a religion but don’t have a problem getting their children baptised or First Communion or Confirmation. That to me is hypocritical as the parents don’t believe but don’t want their children to miss out or stand out. If it’s because they need to send them to the local school as it’s run by the Catholic Church or the Church of Ireland, they can enrol their children in an educate together school and if there’s one not nearby, they can drive them that extra bit because if you don’t have a religion, you can’t use the religious school, Church, religious graveyard when it suits you. I also don’t know why people who have no religion, want a funeral. Would they not just go and get cremated and let their family scatter their ashes. Why would they want to be buried in a graveyard and have a priest or clergyman, which ever your persuasion is, stand over them and officiate at their funeral or even have a removal service or a funeral service.
Have the Catholic Church and the Church of Ireland done some very bad things in the past? Yes they have. Absolutely awful. I have flicked through a report released recently about abuse in Ireland by both Church’s and I tell you something, it wasn’t something God told them to do. It was power and greed that made the people do those things and hide behind God when they were caught on it. "
You have very strong beliefs, so im not going to try to discuss this with you , you seem to have fixed views.
I'd class myself as an Irish pagan, educated by Christian brothers, tried to anull my baptism, with spiritual inclinations, a bit mystical, with an interest in Eastern philosophies. Pleasure, in body and soul is my god. |
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Born and raised as a Catholic but now my faith has lapsed and I no longer go to Mass etc.
My lapse was mainly due to those 'sick' clergy who got their kicks abusing children. If this was not bad enough the sickening clencher was these 'perverts' were not brought to justice but merely moved to different parishes. Thus allowing them to continue their exloits and ruining peoples lives.
I am so proud of those who waived anonymity to bring these culprits to justice and tell the world about their sufferings.
Personally I believe in angels, the power of the univers, an existing God and some kind of afterlife. I hold this belief in with the hope I can be reconciled with my eternal family members.
I think my internal fabric follows my own eveolved ethics to treat others as I want to be treated and give back to the world what is deemed reasonable.
My good luck, if any, is always 'paid forward' and this gives me the satisfaction that i am living life as the best person i can be without the interference of clergy, religon or altar rail lickers!
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"I would go to Church at least once a month, at a minimum because of my shift work meaning I couldn’t go twice a month. When my children were younger, I would bring them to the ‘Children’s Service’ once a month. I would read a Lesson occasionally and have done that since I was about twelve. I would have no problem standing in front of a thousand people and speak to them because of this, it was a great way to gain confidence. I go because I believe in God. I also don’t need to be inside a Church to speak to God and many times I do speak to him a day, mostly because of people I deal with on a daily basis who drive me crazy. I would never disrespect any person over their beliefs or their God in whatever shape of form. Because I go to Church, does not mean I’m a religious nut or I’m ‘one of them’ or anything else.
What I do find funny is people who say they don’t have a religion but don’t have a problem getting their children baptised or First Communion or Confirmation. That to me is hypocritical as the parents don’t believe but don’t want their children to miss out or stand out. If it’s because they need to send them to the local school as it’s run by the Catholic Church or the Church of Ireland, they can enrol their children in an educate together school and if there’s one not nearby, they can drive them that extra bit because if you don’t have a religion, you can’t use the religious school, Church, religious graveyard when it suits you. I also don’t know why people who have no religion, want a funeral. Would they not just go and get cremated and let their family scatter their ashes. Why would they want to be buried in a graveyard and have a priest or clergyman, which ever your persuasion is, stand over them and officiate at their funeral or even have a removal service or a funeral service.
Have the Catholic Church and the Church of Ireland done some very bad things in the past? Yes they have. Absolutely awful. I have flicked through a report released recently about abuse in Ireland by both Church’s and I tell you something, it wasn’t something God told them to do. It was power and greed that made the people do those things and hide behind God when they were caught on it.
You have very strong beliefs, so im not going to try to discuss this with you , you seem to have fixed views.
I'd class myself as an Irish pagan, educated by Christian brothers, tried to anull my baptism, with spiritual inclinations, a bit mystical, with an interest in Eastern philosophies. Pleasure, in body and soul is my god. "
Saying that I have strong beliefs so you’re not going to discuss it with me and that I have fixed views is a very dismissive comment and a disrespectful attitude towards someone that you have never met not tried to debate with. I gave my personal ethos and if someone see fit, they should be able to debate with me in a civilised fashion. I always find religion and politics are a way to see into someone’s soul. I’ll leave it at that. |
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"I would go to Church at least once a month, at a minimum because of my shift work meaning I couldn’t go twice a month. When my children were younger, I would bring them to the ‘Children’s Service’ once a month. I would read a Lesson occasionally and have done that since I was about twelve. I would have no problem standing in front of a thousand people and speak to them because of this, it was a great way to gain confidence. I go because I believe in God. I also don’t need to be inside a Church to speak to God and many times I do speak to him a day, mostly because of people I deal with on a daily basis who drive me crazy. I would never disrespect any person over their beliefs or their God in whatever shape of form. Because I go to Church, does not mean I’m a religious nut or I’m ‘one of them’ or anything else.
What I do find funny is people who say they don’t have a religion but don’t have a problem getting their children baptised or First Communion or Confirmation. That to me is hypocritical as the parents don’t believe but don’t want their children to miss out or stand out. If it’s because they need to send them to the local school as it’s run by the Catholic Church or the Church of Ireland, they can enrol their children in an educate together school and if there’s one not nearby, they can drive them that extra bit because if you don’t have a religion, you can’t use the religious school, Church, religious graveyard when it suits you. I also don’t know why people who have no religion, want a funeral. Would they not just go and get cremated and let their family scatter their ashes. Why would they want to be buried in a graveyard and have a priest or clergyman, which ever your persuasion is, stand over them and officiate at their funeral or even have a removal service or a funeral service.
Have the Catholic Church and the Church of Ireland done some very bad things in the past? Yes they have. Absolutely awful. I have flicked through a report released recently about abuse in Ireland by both Church’s and I tell you something, it wasn’t something God told them to do. It was power and greed that made the people do those things and hide behind God when they were caught on it.
You have very strong beliefs, so im not going to try to discuss this with you , you seem to have fixed views.
I'd class myself as an Irish pagan, educated by Christian brothers, tried to anull my baptism, with spiritual inclinations, a bit mystical, with an interest in Eastern philosophies. Pleasure, in body and soul is my god.
Saying that I have strong beliefs so you’re not going to discuss it with me and that I have fixed views is a very dismissive comment and a disrespectful attitude towards someone that you have never met not tried to debate with. I gave my personal ethos and if someone see fit, they should be able to debate with me in a civilised fashion. I always find religion and politics are a way to see into someone’s soul. I’ll leave it at that. "
Hence I keep my beliefs ,political or religious to myself. Don't want anyone looking into my soul |
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"I would go to Church at least once a month, at a minimum because of my shift work meaning I couldn’t go twice a month. When my children were younger, I would bring them to the ‘Children’s Service’ once a month. I would read a Lesson occasionally and have done that since I was about twelve. I would have no problem standing in front of a thousand people and speak to them because of this, it was a great way to gain confidence. I go because I believe in God. I also don’t need to be inside a Church to speak to God and many times I do speak to him a day, mostly because of people I deal with on a daily basis who drive me crazy. I would never disrespect any person over their beliefs or their God in whatever shape of form. Because I go to Church, does not mean I’m a religious nut or I’m ‘one of them’ or anything else.
What I do find funny is people who say they don’t have a religion but don’t have a problem getting their children baptised or First Communion or Confirmation. That to me is hypocritical as the parents don’t believe but don’t want their children to miss out or stand out. If it’s because they need to send them to the local school as it’s run by the Catholic Church or the Church of Ireland, they can enrol their children in an educate together school and if there’s one not nearby, they can drive them that extra bit because if you don’t have a religion, you can’t use the religious school, Church, religious graveyard when it suits you. I also don’t know why people who have no religion, want a funeral. Would they not just go and get cremated and let their family scatter their ashes. Why would they want to be buried in a graveyard and have a priest or clergyman, which ever your persuasion is, stand over them and officiate at their funeral or even have a removal service or a funeral service.
Have the Catholic Church and the Church of Ireland done some very bad things in the past? Yes they have. Absolutely awful. I have flicked through a report released recently about abuse in Ireland by both Church’s and I tell you something, it wasn’t something God told them to do. It was power and greed that made the people do those things and hide behind God when they were caught on it.
You have very strong beliefs, so im not going to try to discuss this with you , you seem to have fixed views.
I'd class myself as an Irish pagan, educated by Christian brothers, tried to anull my baptism, with spiritual inclinations, a bit mystical, with an interest in Eastern philosophies. Pleasure, in body and soul is my god.
Saying that I have strong beliefs so you’re not going to discuss it with me and that I have fixed views is a very dismissive comment and a disrespectful attitude towards someone that you have never met not tried to debate with. I gave my personal ethos and if someone see fit, they should be able to debate with me in a civilised fashion. I always find religion and politics are a way to see into someone’s soul. I’ll leave it at that.
Hence I keep my beliefs ,political or religious to myself. Don't want anyone looking into my soul"
Should have taken that advice myself Paul. |
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" Saying that I have strong beliefs so you’re not going to discuss it with me and that I have fixed views is a very dismissive comment and a disrespectful attitude towards someone that you have never met not tried to debate with. I gave my personal ethos and if someone see fit, they should be able to debate with me in a civilised fashion. I always find religion and politics are a way to see into someone’s soul. I’ll leave it at that. "
But if you're a believer in the truth of the Christian god then you DO have fixed views. You presumably believe what the Bible says? Your views are that of the church no? You're not allowed to deviate |
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"By the way I wasn't looking to argue or cause arguments about people's religious beliefs ....
But just wondering do they have to park those beliefs while on fab "
There is a lot of hypocrisy here. Being able to park a belief just makes a mockery of it. I'd have a lot more respect for someone who truly believes and follows the teachings |
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Having been raised in a religion that for a long time allowed polygamy, yet preaches against sex before marriage, I found myself conflicted with my desire to become a swinger. Then covid hit & everything changed around the world for everyone. I got a real sense of life's too short & we don't truly know for sure what comes next so why not enjoy the here & now in whatever ways we each feel like doing so. Live & let live. As long as we are not harming others whose business is it but our own. I don't go round asking my non swinger friends about their bedroom activities so why should it be anyone's business what I choose to do in my sex life. Great topic/post. Intriguing & thought provoking. |
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"Catholic, as a kid loved Latin Mass and sang in the choir.My eyes opened in the late 80s to the lies.My parish priest had a heart attack and died in a gay sauna.I think I'm an atheist at this stage.I don't believe in life after death. But still have the aul Catholic guilt there,but not in the bedroom or hotel room lolKindness is always my goal to all
I fitted out that Gay Sauna....Incognito...across from Whitefriar street church
Other priests in there gave him the last rites
Unbelievable, he couldn't live his life ,but he was on to me that I was living with a man b4 marriage, had me scourged,it was such a scandal, poor man
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By *yesgreenMan
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"Catholic, as a kid loved Latin Mass and sang in the choir.My eyes opened in the late 80s to the lies.My parish priest had a heart attack and died in a gay sauna.I think I'm an atheist at this stage.I don't believe in life after death. But still have the aul Catholic guilt there,but not in the bedroom or hotel room lolKindness is always my goal to all
I fitted out that Gay Sauna....Incognito...across from Whitefriar street church
Other priests in there gave him the last rites
Unbelievable, he couldn't live his life ,but he was on to me that I was living with a man b4 marriage, had me scourged,it was such a scandal, poor man
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Few girls have shouted out oh God oh God but that’s not my name lol |
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