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By *og-Man OP Man
over a year ago
somewhere |
So whats everyone's thoughts on it so far
I pay the licence every year ...won't change that to be honest ...dont want any sort of conviction against me
Tubs....do you think he knew it was coming down the track
Got sent a video yesterday of someone having a go at him in a shop that led on the covid vaccine being a con and he ran out to the street .....felt a bit sorry for him
Apologies I don't know all their names but looking at it last night again felt sorry for the guy that didn't know his salary
I actually think he didn't want to say it in public and felt it was an unfair question
The rest.....whole shit show coming down the line ...be interesting to see who got tickets for events ( amazing how much of the talent went to rugby matches )
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The top dogs like in most public bodies don't give a shit about the people lower down its a case of I will feather my nest and my buddies nest and everyone else must take a pay cut .
When it's tax payers money they don't give a shit. |
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over a year ago
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This is how Ireland still works, who you know, backhanders, the "in" people, why would RTE be any different, the majority of people would take an off the books payment if they though they'd get away with it ( not sufficiently interested to establish whether Tubridy declared all his earnings for tax). Ever paid a tradesman cash? You're no different.
I pay the licence fee, I think it's important to have a state service, that said, I never watch it. Last saw the Late Late when Gaybo was at the helm. |
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Why would rte be any different to other organizations in Ireland where the government has involvement? Is tubs a twat? Yes. Does he deserve some muppet sticking a phone in his face going on about vaccines? No (what he has to do with vaccines I will not understand) the stuff coming out will cause a uproar for a while and then it'll be back to business as usual. |
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Do we not all try and get the best pay we can? I know I do (I’m just not that much in demand to warrant a pay packet like tv personalities)
If my boss is willing to pay my wage for what I do then I keep doing it for that wage (it’s up to them to justify what they’re paying me to their “shareholders”)
Do I want my neighbours knowing what I earn? No I don’t |
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Bunch of politicians hounding RTE staff at the PAC just to make themselves look good. It's all optics. Like him or not Tubs was RTEs cash cow so they paid him to reflect that. Is it right? No. Is this the way many private and public sector companies work? Yes.
As for the favours for friends; again common practise. Politicians vilifying anyone for that is hilarious! |
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"Bunch of politicians hounding RTE staff at the PAC just to make themselves look good. It's all optics. Like him or not Tubs was RTEs cash cow so they paid him to reflect that. Is it right? No. Is this the way many private and public sector companies work? Yes.
As for the favours for friends; again common practise. Politicians vilifying anyone for that is hilarious!"
It's impossible for politicians to make themselves look good - everybody knows they're just as bad as each other  |
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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago
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"This is how Ireland still works, who you know, backhanders, the "in" people, why would RTE be any different, the majority of people would take an off the books payment if they though they'd get away with it ( not sufficiently interested to establish whether Tubridy declared all his earnings for tax). Ever paid a tradesman cash? You're no different.
I pay the licence fee, I think it's important to have a state service, that said, I never watch it. Last saw the Late Late when Gaybo was at the helm. "
Yeah don't really agree that paying a tradesman in cash is the same thing. That's dodging the vat/tax.
In Tuburdi's case it's unaccounted taxpayers money. |
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Look it's been goin on for years in nearly all industries. The fact that it's our national broadcaster and its top star shouldn't really surprise anyone.As for the politicians jumping on the righteous bandwagon....the pot calling the kettle black. Bertie didn't even have a bank account if you believed what we are told.  |
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over a year ago
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The RTE exec played a blinder by creating a golden inner circle at the top. Everyone under them felt they had the opportunity to work into that circle so played into the system as it stands. Dangling that opportunity kept the "ordinary workers" as they're referred to in line. Its disgusting but its exactly how Ireland works. |
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"Look it's been goin on for years in nearly all industries. The fact that it's our national broadcaster and its top star shouldn't really surprise anyone.As for the politicians jumping on the righteous bandwagon....the pot calling the kettle black. Bertie didn't even have a bank account if you believed what we are told. "
Bertie was way ahead of his time; he was using Revolut! |
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"Look it's been goin on for years in nearly all industries. The fact that it's our national broadcaster and its top star shouldn't really surprise anyone.As for the politicians jumping on the righteous bandwagon....the pot calling the kettle black. Bertie didn't even have a bank account if you believed what we are told.
Bertie was way ahead of his time; he was using Revolut!"
He was way ahead of everything |
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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago
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Watching/listening to RTE is painful and hurts (except rte lyrics), paying the TV licence is painful and hurts. At least a further licence increase is off the table for the moment.
There's a lot of talent in this country but it's not in RTE. Imo all the RTE high earners should be sacked, amalgamate RTE 1 and 2, close the canteen, bin faircity and wash out the civil servant attitude. Then we could restart creatively and being a public broadcaster for all the people of Ireland.
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By *ublustMan
over a year ago
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"Bunch of politicians hounding RTE staff at the PAC just to make themselves look good. It's all optics. Like him or not Tubs was RTEs cash cow so they paid him to reflect that. Is it right? No. Is this the way many private and public sector companies work? Yes.
As for the favours for friends; again common practise. Politicians vilifying anyone for that is hilarious!"
The Late Late Show and timeslot is an RTE asset but has been treated as if it was an asset of the presenter. There are many people who could read an autocue to a similar standard as Tubs. The brand value of Tubridy only exists because it has been enabled by RTE and let's face it, he wasn't so much discovered as anointed. |
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"Bunch of politicians hounding RTE staff at the PAC just to make themselves look good. It's all
The Late Late Show and timeslot is an RTE asset but has been treated as if it was an asset of the presenter. There are many people who could read an autocue to a similar standard as Tubs. The brand value of Tubridy only exists because it has been enabled by RTE and let's face it, he wasn't so much discovered as anointed."
Anointed yes but that doesn't mean he didn't perform. He made the best fist of it that he could for a 2 hour show in a country that real celebrities visit infrequently. If, as I suspect will happen, he doesn't work for RTE again you'll see him and/or hear him across the water very soon. I'm not his biggest fan but I can see he's a talented guy. |
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"Bunch of politicians hounding RTE staff at the PAC just to make themselves look good. It's all
The Late Late Show and timeslot is an RTE asset but has been treated as if it was an asset of the presenter. There are many people who could read an autocue to a similar standard as Tubs. The brand value of Tubridy only exists because it has been enabled by RTE and let's face it, he wasn't so much discovered as anointed.
Anointed yes but that doesn't mean he didn't perform. He made the best fist of it that he could for a 2 hour show in a country that real celebrities visit infrequently. If, as I suspect will happen, he doesn't work for RTE again you'll see him and/or hear him across the water very soon. I'm not his biggest fan but I can see he's a talented guy."
Is there another Tubridy that I don't know about because you're not describing the Ryan lad in that.
He was on BBC Radio a good few years back but They expressed zero interest in him returning there at all. |
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By *ohng69Man
over a year ago
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"Bunch of politicians hounding RTE staff at the PAC just to make themselves look good. It's all
The Late Late Show and timeslot is an RTE asset but has been treated as if it was an asset of the presenter. There are many people who could read an autocue to a similar standard as Tubs. The brand value of Tubridy only exists because it has been enabled by RTE and let's face it, he wasn't so much discovered as anointed.
Anointed yes but that doesn't mean he didn't perform. He made the best fist of it that he could for a 2 hour show in a country that real celebrities visit infrequently. If, as I suspect will happen, he doesn't work for RTE again you'll see him and/or hear him across the water very soon. I'm not his biggest fan but I can see he's a talented guy."
he wouldn't be anything without the team of researchers and producers around him. That's where the real talent lies, and all he did was pissed down on them |
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By *og-Man OP Man
over a year ago
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He used to fill in for others on BBC radio but was never offered a full time position
He's also stated that hes not leaving Ireland with his kids living here
So why they offered the money they did is beyond me
Same with others ......George Lee ....failed at everything but overpay him and give him a job
Ray D'Arcy .....tells everyone his salary is correct but doesn't mention his wife who's his producer .....wonder is she on the going or overpaid rate |
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"He used to fill in for others on BBC radio but was never offered a full time position
He's also stated that hes not leaving Ireland with his kids living here
So why they offered the money they did is beyond me
Same with others ......George Lee ....failed at everything but overpay him and give him a job
Ray D'Arcy .....tells everyone his salary is correct but doesn't mention his wife who's his producer .....wonder is she on the going or overpaid rate "
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By *ublustMan
over a year ago
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"Anointed yes but that doesn't mean he didn't perform. He made the best fist of it that he could for a 2 hour show in a country that real celebrities visit infrequently. If, as I suspect will happen, he doesn't work for RTE again you'll see him and/or hear him across the water very soon. I'm not his biggest fan but I can see he's a talented guy."
I've never found him to be a good interviewer, he sticks rigidly to scripted questions and timings with very little raport with the interviewee.
I will watch with bated breath to see how he does in the wild, I've never really bought into the notion that we have to pay ’RTE talent’ top dollar because they are irreplaceable and that British stations are waiting in the wings to poach them. The only 'RTE talent' to have been poached by a British station since Terry Wogan has been Zig and Zag.
RTE should focus on offering pathways for developing talent so that even if they lose someone big, there's a readymade replacement. Nobody is irreplaceable. |
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Tubridy and his agent knew of the payments. It looks like they chased RTE for the top ups when the car sponsorship fell through.
I don't feel sorry for him. He was coming out in public saying he took the pay cuts as the country was going though the difficult times and his RTE colleagues were getting fired and also taking cuts. So he was being utterly two faced.
And the RTE board are all in on it and it would actually great to see Dee Forbes come back in and out them all as they are back stabbing her it appears. It's a cabal.
And the financial controller who didn't know his salary should give his wages. Its TAX payers money so like other public servants, it should be publicly available. |
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RTE is a complete racket. It's appointments have been politically motivated since it's beginning and Tubridy was no different.
What really annoys me is how they've created this notion of high value presenters and put them on a pedestal, to pay them a fortune.
This is all part of the racket. Create "high profiles" on 300-500k and then various management on 250k doesn't look that bad!
But they lost control of themsleves, their entitlement saw no bounds. Constantly looking to increase license fees, even asked for Revenue to collect it. Had politicians looking at a "media tax" instead to capture everyone. All the while the content was getting worse and the wages getting higher!
RTE should be kept as a state media, but it's management and presenters removed and rebuilt as a functioning operation not infested by D4-itus |
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By *og-Man OP Man
over a year ago
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"He used to fill in for others on BBC radio but was never offered a full time position
He's also stated that hes not leaving Ireland with his kids living here
So why they offered the money they did is beyond me
Same with others ......George Lee ....failed at everything but overpay him and give him a job
Ray D'Arcy .....tells everyone his salary is correct but doesn't mention his wife who's his producer .....wonder is she on the going or overpaid rate
Tbf, D'arcy's wife is presumably an individual in her own right "
Yes I know but when he left Today fm and joined RTE he stated a few times that his brand was himself and Jenny and that if she wasn't involved then it wouldn't happen so she had to be the producer
Wonder if she's staff or have her own company that invoices RTE |
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"This is tip of the iceberg stuff. Wait until they lift the lid on GAA go
Wait till they lift the lid onthe GAA
The GAA isn't a state owned body "
It's not, it's owned by its members, but and its a big BUT, they've gotten in to bed with this board of management in RTE. So it's highly likely there will be revelations coming on this.
GAA Go is a separate entity to the GAA and RTE. It has its own board of management. Who are they? Are they already employed by RTE? Are they getting paid again for this gig?
It could get messy and the GAA need to get their ducks in a row! |
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over a year ago
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Like a previous poster has said “Tip of the iceberg “ money being paid to agent for “consulting” fees , jolly boys and girls outings to rugby, football, Gaa, and god knows what else!!! It’s nothing new in this corrupt little country of ours. Shame on the lot of them while Irish people are homeless, health service that is a joke , they are oblivious to the needs of our people!!! Rant over ! |
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By *og-Man OP Man
over a year ago
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"This is tip of the iceberg stuff. Wait until they lift the lid on GAA go
Wait till they lift the lid onthe GAA
The GAA isn't a state owned body
It's not, it's owned by its members, but and its a big BUT, they've gotten in to bed with this board of management in RTE. So it's highly likely there will be revelations coming on this.
GAA Go is a separate entity to the GAA and RTE. It has its own board of management. Who are they? Are they already employed by RTE? Are they getting paid again for this gig?
It could get messy and the GAA need to get their ducks in a row! "
Dee Forbes was the boss here until she resigned from GAA GO this week also |
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"This is tip of the iceberg stuff. Wait until they lift the lid on GAA go
Wait till they lift the lid onthe GAA
The GAA isn't a state owned body
It's not, it's owned by its members, but and its a big BUT, they've gotten in to bed with this board of management in RTE. So it's highly likely there will be revelations coming on this.
GAA Go is a separate entity to the GAA and RTE. It has its own board of management. Who are they? Are they already employed by RTE? Are they getting paid again for this gig?
It could get messy and the GAA need to get their ducks in a row! "
The money that GaaGo is spending, or not spending, is GAA money.
The money that RTÉ is spending is taxpayer's money, regardless of how they came by it.
There's a huge difference. The whole Gaago thing irritates me anyway but it's only the RTÉ element of its championship coverage deal that is open to public scrutiny. If the GAA is up to some dodgy dealings with their money, then that's a matter between them and their members, rather than the public at large.
Presumably the GAA will be asked to clarify the details of their deal with RTÉ but that's restricted only to the Gaago entity rather than the GAA as a whole. |
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"This is tip of the iceberg stuff. Wait until they lift the lid on GAA go
Wait till they lift the lid onthe GAA
The GAA isn't a state owned body
It's not, it's owned by its members, but and its a big BUT, they've gotten in to bed with this board of management in RTE. So it's highly likely there will be revelations coming on this.
GAA Go is a separate entity to the GAA and RTE. It has its own board of management. Who are they? Are they already employed by RTE? Are they getting paid again for this gig?
It could get messy and the GAA need to get their ducks in a row! "
GAAGO is a joint venture between rte and gaa, it’s basically the gaa self-dealing, they’re buying from themselves and Rte is footing the bills |
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Wouldn't dream of giving him a slagging in person...but it's poor behaviour on his part pocketing public money on the sly. RTE as an organisation have a bit of growing up to do with regards governance. The board need to go and the public need to be reassured. Watch the TV license delinquency rate skyrocket |
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By *og-Man OP Man
over a year ago
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"This is tip of the iceberg stuff. Wait until they lift the lid on GAA go
Wait till they lift the lid onthe GAA
The GAA isn't a state owned body
It's not, it's owned by its members, but and its a big BUT, they've gotten in to bed with this board of management in RTE. So it's highly likely there will be revelations coming on this.
GAA Go is a separate entity to the GAA and RTE. It has its own board of management. Who are they? Are they already employed by RTE? Are they getting paid again for this gig?
It could get messy and the GAA need to get their ducks in a row!
GAAGO is a joint venture between rte and gaa, it’s basically the gaa self-dealing, they’re buying from themselves and Rte is footing the bills"
GAAGo ....profit of 1.1 million in 2021 and 800,000 in 2020
50% owned by RTE and The GAA |
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I often wondered why some companies, particularly some semi state companies, and the ESB, advertised continuously on RTE, when they had monopolies on the services they supplied, but the slush fund for trips abroad, and tickets to event's, for advertising clients sheds light on this |
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Missed this post earlier so this is shamelessly copied from my own later Pronouns and Payments thread.
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Rumours of a new show called Pronouns and Payments being pitched to RTE.
It is to be jointly hosted by top talents RT and EB. The station will only release the presenters initials initially with full disclosure to follow.
The program format will include lots of banal studio discussions with the odd shouting match, some hymn singing and lots of questions but very few answers.
There will also some outside broadcast segments with a lot of standing around outside schools and court buildings.
There will be no references to Ned Kelly the infamous Australian bushranger/bandit or any similar present day characters.
The show will also host an Adult Toy Show Special....with E handing out "one to everyone in the audience" while R looks on wearing a basque with suspenders and stockings.
So looking forward to the RTE autumn schedule.
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over a year ago
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People are sooo naieve, this kinda thing is the norm , junkets for clients , backhanders in business , scratchy backs , its rife , and will continue , i could tell you stuff that would amaze you all |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The top dogs like in most public bodies don't give a shit about the people lower down its a case of I will feather my nest and my buddies nest and everyone else must take a pay cut .
When it's tax payers money they don't give a shit. "
Your sooo right , its rife , this is just peanuts stuff tbh |
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By *panishRebelMan
over a year ago
Alicante Spain, and Cork City Ireland |
RTE while a public entity, has become and may always have been to some degree, a defacto political instrument of Fine Gael with elements of Fine Fail. Look through the board members, the figures in responsibility and spouses plus family or other close connections and this can easily be verified.
While this of itself doesn't necessitate corruption, based on the track record of our political parties that have ruled for the last 100 plus years (always either FG or FF with an occasional interloper), trust with regards to money has not been justified.
Having said that, it could be worse. Just look at the BBC....  |
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Important to note that there are in fact two distinct bodies called "boards" within RTE.
The RTE Board/Authority, (outside people appointed by the government) which has oversight of broadcast policy and corporate governance.
The Executive Board, (senior management staff) who are responsible for the day-to-day running of the RTE radio and television channels.
The main board could only act on the information being made available to them by the executives and they did act as soon as they became aware of the issues.
Ironic that it was the insistance of the current CFO that the "Barter Account" be taken from being "off the books" which brought the dodgy deals to the attention of the auditors. They in turn informed the The Risk & Audit committee of the main board who commenced investigating with the DG and the executive board.
The CFO is now being painted as one of the bad guys..... |
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"Did he know it was coming?
Why else would he have resigned from the Late Late only a few months beforehand. No coincidence.
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He announced during culvert he was taking a pay cut. He then still got paid the same amount on the entry different payments. I reckon he had a fair idea all right. Total Dick |
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By *ub_TMan
over a year ago
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That whole station is toxic , cronyism , and a dangerous mouthpiece for whatever clowns are in government. Should be torn asunder.
Will there be anyone going to jail for misappropriating tax payer money? Who knows what other underhanded carry on is happening there. |
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"RTE is the problem, not Tubs.
When I get paid I couldnt care less how it's accounted for by my company. Just make sure that money is in my account by the end of the month.
Tubridy epitomises RTE though, he was always destined for a career there due to his connections, then he shoved his holier than thou opinions down everyone's throat, all the while creaming in the cash with his hidden side deal "
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Who borrowed the car for five years and brought it back just last week?
Who was also shooting their new Toyota car deal in Donnybrook last week?...One of the most nepotistic positions of modern times!
It indicates to me that there is so much more to come, especially in the areas of RTE tax compliance. I'm assuming no BIK was paid on that borrowed car?...could be €20k+ owed on that |
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By *og-Man OP Man
over a year ago
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"Who borrowed the car for five years and brought it back just last week?
Who was also shooting their new Toyota car deal in Donnybrook last week?...One of the most nepotistic positions of modern times!
It indicates to me that there is so much more to come, especially in the areas of RTE tax compliance. I'm assuming no BIK was paid on that borrowed car?...could be €20k+ owed on that"
Dont think its Lottie but could be wrong
Apart from the benefit in kind tax implications they actually received a car allowance of 20k every year
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By *nribanMan
over a year ago
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They can't convict us all.
Think Water Charges.
Imagine receiving your TV licence renewal today?
What would you do?
I'd be inclined to let them chase me into court. Let them do all the running. If I receive a summons, just pay the licence then in advance of a court hearing.
You cannot be convicted by a court for not paying your licence if you can show you have paid it, albeit late. |
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"RTE is the problem, not Tubs.
When I get paid I couldnt care less how it's accounted for by my company. Just make sure that money is in my account by the end of the month"
That's not comparing like-for-like. If you were getting paid hundreds of thousands during a time of austerity andlocked down and you publicly announced that you would take a cut in solidarity with the taxpayers who paid your wages, Then took the cash under-the-table anyway, Then it would be like-for-like.
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By *nribanMan
over a year ago
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Don't get me wrong, I don't want to see end to RTE. I think they provide a reasonably good service for €160 a year. Compare that to Sky etc
But this champagne, self-importantance, privileged outlook needs to be taken down.
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"RTE is the problem, not Tubs.
When I get paid I couldnt care less how it's accounted for by my company. Just make sure that money is in my account by the end of the month"
The government is the problem and the people for not screaming for accountability at every stage of the numerous fuckups the people in power perpetrate. |
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"They can't convict us all.
Think Water Charges.
Imagine receiving your TV licence renewal today?
What would you do?
I'd be inclined to let them chase me into court. Let them do all the running. If I receive a summons, just pay the licence then in advance of a court hearing.
You cannot be convicted by a court for not paying your licence if you can show you have paid it, albeit late. "
Such a waste of taxpayers money and again, exactly what's wrong with society. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It's sickens me this whole circus and how the ordinary workers in rte have suffered while the eleite Swan around living the High life.will anyone be held accountable is my question and what actions will they face. |
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"Who borrowed the car for five years and brought it back just last week?
Who was also shooting their new Toyota car deal in Donnybrook last week?...One of the most nepotistic positions of modern times!
It indicates to me that there is so much more to come, especially in the areas of RTE tax compliance. I'm assuming no BIK was paid on that borrowed car?...could be €20k+ owed on that
Dont think its Lottie but could be wrong
Apart from the benefit in kind tax implications they actually received a car allowance of 20k every year
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This is why I think Revenue will start taking interest here.
This is fraud, the car allowance was basically a way of hiding a €20k pay increase, without having to spend on vehicle.
How was the car hidden, I wonder. Was it down as a fleet vehicle or hidden in some other account? |
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"RTE is the problem, not Tubs.
When I get paid I couldnt care less how it's accounted for by my company. Just make sure that money is in my account by the end of the month
The government is the problem and the people for not screaming for accountability at every stage of the numerous fuckups the people in power perpetrate."
While I agree that the government is the problem in a lot of cases, it wouldn't be right for the government to be micro managing public broadcasting. The only thing they can do is appoint a board to run it, or at least oversee the running of it.
One of the problems in this case is that the board of RTÉ appears to have had very little knowledge or control over what the executive board was doing. Add to that a culture in which "talent" was grossly overvalued, and plenty of cash to spend, and you end up with a catastrophe.
Let's not forget that Pat Kenny was earning €950,000 per annum from RTÉ in 2008, although earning is probably the wrong word.
The most overpaid of all though was probably Marian Finucane on €630,000 per annum for 4 hours on air per week for about 8 months of the year, as well as one hour on TV per month for maybe three months of the year.
Ridiculous figures in a country where there was no competition. There was no other channel they could go to. There was, but they couldn't afford anything but a small fraction of those sums.
Farcical stuff.
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We all know the government is a little bit f***** and we all know TV is a little bit f*****.
The wanting you would hope you could count on is the morals of our public figures. Yes make changes so it can never happen again. Restructure the organization and payments to doors employed. However hold accountable to public figures who knowingly took advantage of the taxpayers. Tobertie's career shouldn't and should end on a very very shameful dishonest Note.
If the blame for corruption is only to fall at the hands of those who govern it, Then fuck it, all the rest of us who get away with it should be patted on the back, right ? |
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As mentioned earlier, it's the champagne elitism that annoys most. This idea of putting them on a pedestal. Particularly as it's just manufactured nonsense.
Tubridy knew about this months ago, which is obviously why he choose to announce his retirement. To then go and host his last show as some sort of celebration of his greatness, was a disgrace, in hindsight. |
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Why did he just leave the late late and stay on the radio if he "saw it coming?"...
I've thought for a long time that they paid their presenters to much considering the very limited market out there. Fair play to that "agent to the stars" things will change now.
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"We all know the government is a little bit f***** and we all know TV is a little bit f*****.
The wanting you would hope you could count on is the morals of our public figures. Yes make changes so it can never happen again. Restructure the organization and payments to doors employed. However hold accountable to public figures who knowingly took advantage of the taxpayers. Tobertie's career shouldn't and should end on a very very shameful dishonest Note.
If the blame for corruption is only to fall at the hands of those who govern it, Then fuck it, all the rest of us who get away with it should be patted on the back, right ? "
In a normal society Tubridy would never be back on RTÉ again.
However, the cult of victimhood is very powerfully in this state. Just look at Michael Lowry who was shown to have been guilty of tax fraud and going to great lengths to avoid it, and he's now the most popular politician in Tipperary.
FF will probably put him forward for the presidential election in 2025. |
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It’s nothing that we haven’t already seen in this country of ours. Probably be a tribunal about it and it will all be swept under the carpet. While I agree that there should be an inquiry into all of it and those responsible for squandering taxpayers money should be held to account. Dragging them in front of a circus of a committee where the politicians are putting themselves on an all high and mighty pedestal is in my opinion ridiculous. Let some qualified people investigate!!! |
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"It’s nothing that we haven’t already seen in this country of ours. Probably be a tribunal about it and it will all be swept under the carpet. While I agree that there should be an inquiry into all of it and those responsible for squandering taxpayers money should be held to account. Dragging them in front of a circus of a committee where the politicians are putting themselves on an all high and mighty pedestal is in my opinion ridiculous. Let some qualified people investigate!!! "
The committee appears to be doing am excellent job.
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"Why did he just leave the late late and stay on the radio if he "saw it coming?"...
I've thought for a long time that they paid their presenters to much considering the very limited market out there. Fair play to that "agent to the stars" things will change now.
Are Renault getting away lightly?? "
Because he had hoped to sign a new contract for radio only |
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"We all know the government is a little bit f***** and we all know TV is a little bit f*****.
The wanting you would hope you could count on is the morals of our public figures. Yes make changes so it can never happen again. Restructure the organization and payments to doors employed. However hold accountable to public figures who knowingly took advantage of the taxpayers. Tobertie's career shouldn't and should end on a very very shameful dishonest Note.
If the blame for corruption is only to fall at the hands of those who govern it, Then fuck it, all the rest of us who get away with it should be patted on the back, right ?
In a normal society Tubridy would never be back on RTÉ again.
However, the cult of victimhood is very powerfully in this state. Just look at Michael Lowry who was shown to have been guilty of tax fraud and going to great lengths to avoid it, and he's now the most popular politician in Tipperary.
FF will probably put him forward for the presidential election in 2025. "
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So the latest in the Rte farce
€5k spent on Robbie Williams tickets for staff another €6k spent on flip flops for a staff party.. You couldn't make this shit up.. And if we didn't pay our TV licence we could be carted off to jail |
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"So its Marty morrissey that had the car ....looks like he's in trouble with The Revenue now although he says he got no car allowance "
His statement is strange.
Renault just gave him the car apparently. Nothing to do with RTE?
This gift should definitely have been declared by Marty for tax purposes. He is only in trouble if he had not declared it. He may have. |
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By *ilderMan
over a year ago
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"So the latest in the Rte farce
€5k spent on Robbie Williams tickets for staff another €6k spent on flip flops for a staff party.. You couldn't make this shit up.. And if we didn't pay our TV licence we could be carted off to jail "
I'd have to be paid at least 5k to go to a robbie Williams concert too, preferably a lot more   |
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"Why did he just leave the late late and stay on the radio if he "saw it coming?"...
I've thought for a long time that they paid their presenters to much considering the very limited market out there. Fair play to that "agent to the stars" things will change now.
Are Renault getting away lightly??
Because he had hoped to sign a new contract for radio only "
I think people might figure out that he was the guy who used to be on the late late and had been paid um... Around the table... |
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"Did he know it was coming?
Why else would he have resigned from the Late Late only a few months beforehand. No coincidence.
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I think they must have known! |
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By *oo32Man
over a year ago
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"We all know the government is a little bit f***** and we all know TV is a little bit f*****.
The wanting you would hope you could count on is the morals of our public figures. Yes make changes so it can never happen again. Restructure the organization and payments to doors employed. However hold accountable to public figures who knowingly took advantage of the taxpayers. Tobertie's career shouldn't and should end on a very very shameful dishonest Note.
If the blame for corruption is only to fall at the hands of those who govern it, Then fuck it, all the rest of us who get away with it should be patted on the back, right ?
In a normal society Tubridy would never be back on RTÉ again.
However, the cult of victimhood is very powerfully in this state. Just look at Michael Lowry who was shown to have been guilty of tax fraud and going to great lengths to avoid it, and he's now the most popular politician in Tipperary.
FF will probably put him forward for the presidential election in 2025. "
And he'd probably win |
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"We all know the government is a little bit f***** and we all know TV is a little bit f*****.
The wanting you would hope you could count on is the morals of our public figures. Yes make changes so it can never happen again. Restructure the organization and payments to doors employed. However hold accountable to public figures who knowingly took advantage of the taxpayers. Tobertie's career shouldn't and should end on a very very shameful dishonest Note.
If the blame for corruption is only to fall at the hands of those who govern it, Then fuck it, all the rest of us who get away with it should be patted on the back, right ?
In a normal society Tubridy would never be back on RTÉ again.
However, the cult of victimhood is very powerfully in this state. Just look at Michael Lowry who was shown to have been guilty of tax fraud and going to great lengths to avoid it, and he's now the most popular politician in Tipperary.
FF will probably put him forward for the presidential election in 2025.
And he'd probably win"
That's the scariest part. I've heard a number of people talk about "poor Ryan" and how he's been so badly treated. |
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"Why did he just leave the late late and stay on the radio if he "saw it coming?"...
I've thought for a long time that they paid their presenters to much considering the very limited market out there. Fair play to that "agent to the stars" things will change now.
Are Renault getting away lightly??
Because he had hoped to sign a new contract for radio only
I think people might figure out that he was the guy who used to be on the late late and had been paid um... Around the table... "
Your thinking like a normal person. But imagine you have Tubridys, ego, and sense of entitlement. This guy fooled a load off people into thinking he was a "nice guy". Not some money hungry fucker!
My opinion: Once RTE told him about the audits, he didn't care about the revelations. He knew, at best, that a massive pay cut was coming, so, disgusted, he left.
He is RTEs "star man" after all! He thought he'd have no problem negotiating a handsome fee for an hour on the radio every day instead.
Never thought nice guy Ryan would see a backlash over a few hundred grand! |
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If you don't have a TV licence in this Country you end up with a criminal record, sad but true, personally l totally dislike all the presenters of RTE , so arrogant and full of themselves , l don't watch anything on there except Sport , and even they sold their soul ,there are sports in this country you can't see " live " only the highlights...unless you pay of Course...RTE ... Nawww ..sorry...not for me. |
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"If you don't have a TV licence in this Country you end up with a criminal record, sad but true, personally l totally dislike all the presenters of RTE , so arrogant and full of themselves , l don't watch anything on there except Sport , and even they sold their soul ,there are sports in this country you can't see " live " only the highlights...unless you pay of Course...RTE ... Nawww ..sorry...not for me. "
Totally shit and naff presenters who have enormous egos, it's amazing how they can even fit in a studio with an ego that big, insufferable people, there are plenty of young capable people who would work for €50k a year as a presenter and do a better job than the wasters they have now, how they can justify paying someone over 200k to talk on a radio or tv is insane |
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By *ol_ieMan
over a year ago
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Denmark has a similar size population to us and their tv and radio people get paid between 65k and 110k per year.
Anyone on more than that in rte is being overpaid and the figures some of them are getting are ridiculous.
A serious purge needed in there to cut the costs and they need to focus on those doing very little getting paid a fortune.
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"I think a bigger scandal is what RTE did with our land that we actually owned....sold part of the campus for over 100 million and used the money "
What did they use the money for? |
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Given the choice I'd have taken the money. It was negotiated and offered so no problem there. I don't watch the late late but it's a consistent ratings topper so there's loads that do.
RTE actually produce a lot of good programs (and bad) it's a public service broadcaster which means they have to cater to everyone not just the netflix generation.
Now management that's different but a few things. Barter accounts are widely used in the advertising business as well as other corporates... How many on here have been on a golf trip through work. Don't really have a problem if it brings in revenue.
The issues are how it was all hidden from the board auditors and gov. If there's a suspected fraud or anything else illegal then the gardai need to investigate.... But they have to be asked seemingly. |
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By *og-Man OP Man
over a year ago
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"I think a bigger scandal is what RTE did with our land that we actually owned....sold part of the campus for over 100 million and used the money
What did they use the money for?"
Some was used to cover staff costs
They made people redundant, paid them and then took some back as independent contractors
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"I think a bigger scandal is what RTE did with our land that we actually owned....sold part of the campus for over 100 million and used the money
What did they use the money for?
Some was used to cover staff costs
They made people redundant, paid them and then took some back as independent contractors
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Are you serious that happens if someone is employed no matter what job their in
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"Given the choice I'd have taken the money. It was negotiated and offered so no problem there. I don't watch the late late but it's a consistent ratings topper so there's loads that do.
RTE actually produce a lot of good programs (and bad) it's a public service broadcaster which means they have to cater to everyone not just the netflix generation.
Now management that's different but a few things. Barter accounts are widely used in the advertising business as well as other corporates... How many on here have been on a golf trip through work. Don't really have a problem if it brings in revenue.
The issues are how it was all hidden from the board auditors and gov. If there's a suspected fraud or anything else illegal then the gardai need to investigate.... But they have to be asked seemingly. "
I can't see much home grown tv produced by Rte then again I gave up watching anything on Rte a few years ago, Rte pick the best tv from British and American networks and use it as their own, it's pure laziness imo, most of those tv shows they get for nothing but the public get ripped off 160 a year, it's clear to see money is being spent on ridiculously high salaries and being squandered elsewhere |
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"Never been so much fuss about fcuk all!"
Fuck all?
It's only recently that RTE were campaigning for Revenue to collect the licence fee at source.
They've been crowing about lack of money for years, while they've been coking books to blow huge sums on a annual basis.
The salaries thing is something that got out of control, they know this but still felt a need for back door payments with public money.
The biggest issue here is that corporate governance is very sketchy in a state body handling hundreds of millions annually.
We let this white collar activity fly way to easily in Ireland. |
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Iv never paid for a tv licence i pay my sky and rte is included in my sky packet so i not gonna pay twice,
This scandal is keeping virgin media busy with content and and giving the government breathing space for a change.. |
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"it's going on in every organisation in fairness.
In rte I feel Tubs is being made a scapegoat. "
What goes on in privately owned businesses is between them and revenue.
What goes on in state owned businesses is a whole different ball game as it's tax payers money.
Tubridy gave an interview in November 2019 where he announced he was taking a pay cut and how he was "haunted by children in poverty". This was widely publicised at the time. What wasn't publicised was that he, or hours agent on his behalf, was negotiating the under the counter payments to mitigate the cut. |
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"it's going on in every organisation in fairness.
In rte I feel Tubs is being made a scapegoat.
What goes on in privately owned businesses is between them and revenue.
What goes on in state owned businesses is a whole different ball game as it's tax payers money.
Tubridy gave an interview in November 2019 where he announced he was taking a pay cut and how he was "haunted by children in poverty". This was widely publicised at the time. What wasn't publicised was that he, or hours agent on his behalf, was negotiating the under the counter payments to mitigate the cut. "
no matter how long this goes on now its still going to cost the tax payer money with investigations and commitees being set up its all dead money to tax payers |
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"it's going on in every organisation in fairness.
In rte I feel Tubs is being made a scapegoat.
What goes on in privately owned businesses is between them and revenue.
What goes on in state owned businesses is a whole different ball game as it's tax payers money.
Tubridy gave an interview in November 2019 where he announced he was taking a pay cut and how he was "haunted by children in poverty". This was widely publicised at the time. What wasn't publicised was that he, or hours agent on his behalf, was negotiating the under the counter payments to mitigate the cut. no matter how long this goes on now its still going to cost the tax payer money with investigations and commitees being set up its all dead money to tax payers"
The current committee hearings involve minimal cost as the public accounts committee already exists.
We could just ignore it, I suppose, and hope they all just decide to do better with our money in the future because it'll be too much bother to investigate it? Eh, no, that's not going to happen. |
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"it's going on in every organisation in fairness.
In rte I feel Tubs is being made a scapegoat.
What goes on in privately owned businesses is between them and revenue.
What goes on in state owned businesses is a whole different ball game as it's tax payers money.
Tubridy gave an interview in November 2019 where he announced he was taking a pay cut and how he was "haunted by children in poverty". This was widely publicised at the time. What wasn't publicised was that he, or hours agent on his behalf, was negotiating the under the counter payments to mitigate the cut. no matter how long this goes on now its still going to cost the tax payer money with investigations and commitees being set up its all dead money to tax payers
The current committee hearings involve minimal cost as the public accounts committee already exists.
We could just ignore it, I suppose, and hope they all just decide to do better with our money in the future because it'll be too much bother to investigate it? Eh, no, that's not going to happen. "
i agree with you but so far theres enough information out there the gaurds show just go and arrest anyone who mess around with public funds and put them infront of a judge i know if i done half of what they done id be looking at jail time |
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By *iscokidMan
over a year ago
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Tubs and his agent up for questioning next week should be interesting.
Funny thing is hearing all the politicians roaring and shouting about this scandal and their the most crooked fuckers ever themselves. |
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"Tubs and his agent up for questioning next week should be interesting.
Funny thing is hearing all the politicians roaring and shouting about this scandal and their the most crooked fuckers ever themselves. "
Corrupt politicians are easily dealt with. Firstly there's SIPO, then there's elections. They can easily be voted out of office by us. We have no such control over RTÉ.
Also, there's something wrong when the people tasked with running the country are getting paid a fraction of what someone who's on the radio for a few hours per week gets paid, and I'm certainly not suggesting that politicians are underpaid. |
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"Tubs and his agent up for questioning next week should be interesting.
Funny thing is hearing all the politicians roaring and shouting about this scandal and their the most crooked fuckers ever themselves. "
I’ve said as much in my previous comment. It’s like the pot calling the kettle black !! |
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"Tubs and his agent up for questioning next week should be interesting.
Funny thing is hearing all the politicians roaring and shouting about this scandal and their the most crooked fuckers ever themselves.
Corrupt politicians are easily dealt with. Firstly there's SIPO, then there's elections. They can easily be voted out of office by us. We have no such control over RTÉ.
Also, there's something wrong when the people tasked with running the country are getting paid a fraction of what someone who's on the radio for a few hours per week gets paid, and I'm certainly not suggesting that politicians are underpaid. "
Exactly, every politician in this country, whether you like them or not, was put there by a large number of people.
Who voted for D'Arcy, Tubridy, Finnucane, Duffy, O'Callaghan, etc. Who put them on their self perceived pedestals? |
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over a year ago
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"Tubs and his agent up for questioning next week should be interesting.
Funny thing is hearing all the politicians roaring and shouting about this scandal and their the most crooked fuckers ever themselves. "
Tubs and his agent have doing nothing wrong when you think about it ....
Agents job is to get the best deal for his client .....he definitely did that
Tubs job was to present a tv show and a radio programme....he did that
They'll both argue that nothing else matters to them and that the accounting practices in RTE have nothing to do with them
Public opinion is what will bring Tubs down....not politicians grandstanding for the telly |
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"Tubs and his agent up for questioning next week should be interesting.
Funny thing is hearing all the politicians roaring and shouting about this scandal and their the most crooked fuckers ever themselves.
I’ve said as much in my previous comment. It’s like the pot calling the kettle black !!"
Well do you want to share with us who the current most corrupt politicians are, from the list of politicians who have been vocal about RTÉ? Five will do. You have 160 TDs to choose from. |
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Tubs and his agent have doing nothing wrong when you think about it "
It's not merely about them though. It's about the way finances were handled in RTÉ. Yes, they're a part of it but they're only one part. |
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"So whats everyone's thoughts on it so far
I pay the licence every year ...won't change that to be honest ...dont want any sort of conviction against me
Tubs....do you think he knew it was coming down the track
Got sent a video yesterday of someone having a go at him in a shop that led on the covid vaccine being a con and he ran out to the street .....felt a bit sorry for him
Apologies I don't know all their names but looking at it last night again felt sorry for the guy that didn't know his salary
I actually think he didn't want to say it in public and felt it was an unfair question
The rest.....whole shit show coming down the line ...be interesting to see who got tickets for events ( amazing how much of the talent went to rugby matches )
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People still pay their TV license? |
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over a year ago
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"So whats everyone's thoughts on it so far
I pay the licence every year ...won't change that to be honest ...dont want any sort of conviction against me
Tubs....do you think he knew it was coming down the track
Got sent a video yesterday of someone having a go at him in a shop that led on the covid vaccine being a con and he ran out to the street .....felt a bit sorry for him
Apologies I don't know all their names but looking at it last night again felt sorry for the guy that didn't know his salary
I actually think he didn't want to say it in public and felt it was an unfair question
The rest.....whole shit show coming down the line ...be interesting to see who got tickets for events ( amazing how much of the talent went to rugby matches )
People still pay their TV license? "
I always pay ....I'm self employed and need a tax clearance cert for some contracts so don't want any hassle that could effect that
I also have 3 different Garda clearance certs and again dont want to lose them |
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Just heard that barter account is about to reveal details of several trips to Dublin zoo paid for by tax payers money going back all the way to the 80s. Word on the street has it the main beneficiary was Bosco.. |
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"Why did he just leave the late late and stay on the radio if he "saw it coming?"...
I've thought for a long time that they paid their presenters to much considering the very limited market out there. Fair play to that "agent to the stars" things will change now.
Are Renault getting away lightly??
Because he had hoped to sign a new contract for radio only
I think people might figure out that he was the guy who used to be on the late late and had been paid um... Around the table...
Your thinking like a normal person. But imagine you have Tubridys, ego, and sense of entitlement. This guy fooled a load off people into thinking he was a "nice guy". Not some money hungry fucker!
My opinion: Once RTE told him about the audits, he didn't care about the revelations. He knew, at best, that a massive pay cut was coming, so, disgusted, he left.
He is RTEs "star man" after all! He thought he'd have no problem negotiating a handsome fee for an hour on the radio every day instead.
Never thought nice guy Ryan would see a backlash over a few hundred grand!"
He's a head ffs ... of courses his ego is out of check ... |
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"Given the choice I'd have taken the money. It was negotiated and offered so no problem there. I don't watch the late late but it's a consistent ratings topper so there's loads that do.
RTE actually produce a lot of good programs (and bad) it's a public service broadcaster which means they have to cater to everyone not just the netflix generation.
Now management that's different but a few things. Barter accounts are widely used in the advertising business as well as other corporates... How many on here have been on a golf trip through work. Don't really have a problem if it brings in revenue.
The issues are how it was all hidden from the board auditors and gov. If there's a suspected fraud or anything else illegal then the gardai need to investigate.... But they have to be asked seemingly. "
Again many people seem to be missing the most important point. Toberty or his agent negotiated this means of paying without taking a pay cut, while patraying to the public that he was taking a pay cut. Thats pure cuntish |
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"Tubs and his agent up for questioning next week should be interesting.
Funny thing is hearing all the politicians roaring and shouting about this scandal and their the most crooked fuckers ever themselves.
Tubs and his agent have doing nothing wrong when you think about it ....
Agents job is to get the best deal for his client .....he definitely did that
Tubs job was to present a tv show and a radio programme....he did that
They'll both argue that nothing else matters to them and that the accounting practices in RTE have nothing to do with them
Public opinion is what will bring Tubs down....not politicians grandstanding for the telly "
Tubs lied to the entire country during a time of austerity and solidarity... he's a dick and a greedy one ... let me tell you this is only the tip of the iceberg for what comes out of his closet |
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I’d say more will come out. At the end of the day it’s RTE in the wrong. What they communicated was false. Why Ryan Tubridy has been taken off the air I don’t know? He’s done nothing wrong. He was paid to do a job. If people feel he was paid too much that’s just an opinion it’s not his fault. At the moment it’s a bit of a soap opera and it’s daily updates on who did what.
It is what it is. And from here in I’d say RTE will have to pull back all discretionary spending. License fee payments will inevitably drop but you are right to keep paying yours. So will I. |
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"I’d say more will come out. At the end of the day it’s RTE in the wrong. What they communicated was false. Why Ryan Tubridy has been taken off the air I don’t know? He’s done nothing wrong. He was paid to do a job. If people feel he was paid too much that’s just an opinion it’s not his fault. At the moment it’s a bit of a soap opera and it’s daily updates on who did what.
It is what it is. And from here in I’d say RTE will have to pull back all discretionary spending. License fee payments will inevitably drop but you are right to keep paying yours. So will I. "
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In my opinion if Tubridy was aware his "Ned Kelly" agent was negotiating a "work around" payment deal on his behalf then he is culpable and deserves to be dropped by the "new" management of RTE. If he was not aware then he is guilty of being either asleep at the wheel or as dumb as a post.
Either way he is no longer a requirement for RTE to fulfill its public service broadcasting role and should be left to make his way in the commercial world where, up until he was found out, he was quite happy to exist and to reap the rewards for being such a wonderful "talent"
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over a year ago
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There was speculation during the tribunals investigations into Bertie's finances that the irregular financial structures could have been about concealing wealth from his ex wife... I wonder if RT has a copy of the FF playbook? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It's all going to shit,
Coveney resigns, O'Leary taking early retirement..
No one is going to be held accountable here and there is a criminal fraud case with Collins as CFO on the horizon?
The whole thing stinks! |
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By *og-Man OP Man
over a year ago
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"It's all going to shit,
Coveney resigns, O'Leary taking early retirement..
No one is going to be held accountable here and there is a criminal fraud case with Collins as CFO on the horizon?
The whole thing stinks! "
I wonder how people get paid off if they resign or take early retirement
I also wonder if they don't have to answer to anyone now especially Coveney for The Toy Show Musical disaster as they don't work there anymore |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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On the bright side anything is possible now, I may well have my daily hour of everything swinging taking over from tubridys show..
A bit like Joe Duffy I suppose only on steroids |
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"Listening to it I feel Ryan and his agent are setting up a massive case against RTE and other media organisations for libel and loss of earnings "
They're definitely going to great lengths to portray him as the victim in all of this.
I thought Brian Stanley's question to him about the optics of these payments as covid was kicking in and the entire country was on €300 a week was an excellent one and maybe brought a bit of reality back into it. . |
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over a year ago
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Kelly has potentially left himself open to fraud as he acting as a separate independent company issued the 2 x 75,000 invoices for consultant's fee's which never actually occurred.
This thing of being directed by RTE is waffle! |
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over a year ago
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It's claimed Ryan's shows netted over 100m in revenue over the years. RTE believed in thier infinite wisdom that they could not afford lose him. Somewhere along this road there was always the threat, vague or otherwise that he "the talent" would walk. There is no other reason why RTE would agree to underwrite the payments if the threat wasn't there.This is when the sh*t hits the fan and underhanded stuff had to happen so as to "fall in line" with current policy.
It was Kelly's job to get the best deal for his client.
Why else would anyone go out on a limb. They had previously lost the "golden goose" P. Kenny to newstalk. The Kenny exodus was a deal done in complete privacy out of earshot of RTE, with meetings held in the UK....the deal was massive for the talent and the agent....and one guess as to who the agent was??
You got it!
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over a year ago
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* add on, NK was not P.Kennys agent in RTE, he was the guy responsible for brokering the deal to get him out of RTE.
He would do same for Ryan. That's the big pay day, the transfer |
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"Listening to it I feel Ryan and his agent are setting up a massive case against RTE and other media organisations for libel and loss of earnings
They're definitely going to great lengths to portray him as the victim in all of this.
I thought Brian Stanley's question to him about the optics of these payments as covid was kicking in and the entire country was on €300 a week was an excellent one and maybe brought a bit of reality back into it. . "
The only optics Stanley was worried about is the optics of him being seen to be Mr. Righteous. He doesn't give one flying shite about people on 300 p/w. I hope Tubs takes RTE for millions after this. |
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By *og-Man OP Man
over a year ago
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"* add on, NK was not P.Kennys agent in RTE, he was the guy responsible for brokering the deal to get him out of RTE.
He would do same for Ryan. That's the big pay day, the transfer"
Yet the guy that replaced Kenny in RTE Sean O Rourke increased the audience for less money for the same show
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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago
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"It's claimed Ryan's shows netted over 100m in revenue over the years. RTE believed in thier infinite wisdom that they could not afford lose him. Somewhere along this road there was always the threat, vague or otherwise that he "the talent" would walk. There is no other reason why RTE would agree to underwrite the payments if the threat wasn't there.This is when the sh*t hits the fan and underhanded stuff had to happen so as to "fall in line" with current policy.
It was Kelly's job to get the best deal for his client.
Why else would anyone go out on a limb. They had previously lost the "golden goose" P. Kenny to newstalk. The Kenny exodus was a deal done in complete privacy out of earshot of RTE, with meetings held in the UK....the deal was massive for the talent and the agent....and one guess as to who the agent was??
You got it!
Lee"
You should have put 'talent' in apostrophes.  |
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By *og-Man OP Man
over a year ago
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"Absolutely, it's the content that people engage with more than the presenter. People come and go and nobody is indispensable
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Read a report about the way some BBC radio channels name the program rather than after a presenter.....liveline does it
Not a bad idea |
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"It's claimed Ryan's shows netted over 100m in revenue over the years. RTE believed in thier infinite wisdom that they could not afford lose him. Somewhere along this road there was always the threat, vague or otherwise that he "the talent" would walk. There is no other reason why RTE would agree to underwrite the payments if the threat wasn't there.This is when the sh*t hits the fan and underhanded stuff had to happen so as to "fall in line" with current policy.
It was Kelly's job to get the best deal for his client.
Why else would anyone go out on a limb. They had previously lost the "golden goose" P. Kenny to newstalk. The Kenny exodus was a deal done in complete privacy out of earshot of RTE, with meetings held in the UK....the deal was massive for the talent and the agent....and one guess as to who the agent was??
You got it!
Lee
You should have put 'talent' in apostrophes. "
Of course DH, my apologies. My grasp of english grammar has never been my forte.
I think RTE and Mr Kelly need the proper definition of 'consultancy' |
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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago
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"Absolutely, it's the content that people engage with more than the presenter. People come and go and nobody is indispensable
Read a report about the way some BBC radio channels name the program rather than after a presenter.....liveline does it
Not a bad idea "
Yup, RTE's abundance of creativity when it comes to naming programmes has no bound and it turns the presenters into entitled RTE celebrities. |
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"* add on, NK was not P.Kennys agent in RTE, he was the guy responsible for brokering the deal to get him out of RTE.
He would do same for Ryan. That's the big pay day, the transfer"
It might be the big payday for the agent but it wasn't for Pat Kenny.
Pat Kenny was earning, or rather, getting paid, €950,000 per annum at RTÉ ar one point. He was then cut back to €729,000. When he left RTÉ he ended up with a five year deal for €2 million for more hours on air. The main reason he left RTÉ was because of his bitterness over wage cuts.
Now, Ryan Tubridy is a very different type of presenter to Pat Kenny. Pat Kenny is a fairly forensic interviewer and Newstalk needed someone with a bit of gravitas to build their brand as a serious news channel.
There is no commercial channel in this country who could match what Tubridy is being paid at RTÉ, or even come close to it so I'm not sure where he'd walk to.
Most people who pay for advertising on RTÉ do so because it's the national broadcaster, not because it's Ryan Tubridy.
Personally, I much prefer Oliver Callan in that role but that's a side issue. |
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"* add on, NK was not P.Kennys agent in RTE, he was the guy responsible for brokering the deal to get him out of RTE.
He would do same for Ryan. That's the big pay day, the transfer
It might be the big payday for the agent but it wasn't for Pat Kenny.
Pat Kenny was earning, or rather, getting paid, €950,000 per annum at RTÉ ar one point. He was then cut back to €729,000. When he left RTÉ he ended up with a five year deal for €2 million for more hours on air. The main reason he left RTÉ was because of his bitterness over wage cuts.
Now, Ryan Tubridy is a very different type of presenter to Pat Kenny. Pat Kenny is a fairly forensic interviewer and Newstalk needed someone with a bit of gravitas to build their brand as a serious news channel.
There is no commercial channel in this country who could match what Tubridy is being paid at RTÉ, or even come close to it so I'm not sure where he'd walk to.
Most people who pay for advertising on RTÉ do so because it's the national broadcaster, not because it's Ryan Tubridy.
Personally, I much prefer Oliver Callan in that role but that's a side issue. "
Fair comment. I agree there is no other entity that would pay him more, but I believe they just wanted to keep him doing what he was doing and not going off and doing different things. I'm sure they didn't want him to leave the late late show either. |
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"* add on, NK was not P.Kennys agent in RTE, he was the guy responsible for brokering the deal to get him out of RTE.
He would do same for Ryan. That's the big pay day, the transfer
It might be the big payday for the agent but it wasn't for Pat Kenny.
Pat Kenny was earning, or rather, getting paid, €950,000 per annum at RTÉ ar one point. He was then cut back to €729,000. When he left RTÉ he ended up with a five year deal for €2 million for more hours on air. The main reason he left RTÉ was because of his bitterness over wage cuts.
Now, Ryan Tubridy is a very different type of presenter to Pat Kenny. Pat Kenny is a fairly forensic interviewer and Newstalk needed someone with a bit of gravitas to build their brand as a serious news channel.
There is no commercial channel in this country who could match what Tubridy is being paid at RTÉ, or even come close to it so I'm not sure where he'd walk to.
Most people who pay for advertising on RTÉ do so because it's the national broadcaster, not because it's Ryan Tubridy.
Personally, I much prefer Oliver Callan in that role but that's a side issue.
Fair comment. I agree there is no other entity that would pay him more, but I believe they just wanted to keep him doing what he was doing and not going off and doing different things. I'm sure they didn't want him to leave the late late show either."
That may be correct but what always puzzled we was how he got those gigs in the first place. RTÉ created him and then was worried about him leaving but as far as I could see it read all an artificial construct.
Yeah, he's popular with a lot of people but the same level of exposure will do that for anyone really.
Maybe even me? Gosh, does anyone have a number for the talent hotline in RTÉ? |
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"* add on, NK was not P.Kennys agent in RTE, he was the guy responsible for brokering the deal to get him out of RTE.
He would do same for Ryan. That's the big pay day, the transfer
It might be the big payday for the agent but it wasn't for Pat Kenny.
Pat Kenny was earning, or rather, getting paid, €950,000 per annum at RTÉ ar one point. He was then cut back to €729,000. When he left RTÉ he ended up with a five year deal for €2 million for more hours on air. The main reason he left RTÉ was because of his bitterness over wage cuts.
Now, Ryan Tubridy is a very different type of presenter to Pat Kenny. Pat Kenny is a fairly forensic interviewer and Newstalk needed someone with a bit of gravitas to build their brand as a serious news channel.
There is no commercial channel in this country who could match what Tubridy is being paid at RTÉ, or even come close to it so I'm not sure where he'd walk to.
Most people who pay for advertising on RTÉ do so because it's the national broadcaster, not because it's Ryan Tubridy.
Personally, I much prefer Oliver Callan in that role but that's a side issue.
Fair comment. I agree there is no other entity that would pay him more, but I believe they just wanted to keep him doing what he was doing and not going off and doing different things. I'm sure they didn't want him to leave the late late show either.
That may be correct but what always puzzled we was how he got those gigs in the first place. RTÉ created him and then was worried about him leaving but as far as I could see it read all an artificial construct.
Yeah, he's popular with a lot of people but the same level of exposure will do that for anyone really.
Maybe even me? Gosh, does anyone have a number for the talent hotline in RTÉ? "
I'll put a word in with Noel Kelly Mick, I'll get you in there pal |
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"* add on, NK was not P.Kennys agent in RTE, he was the guy responsible for brokering the deal to get him out of RTE.
He would do same for Ryan. That's the big pay day, the transfer
It might be the big payday for the agent but it wasn't for Pat Kenny.
Pat Kenny was earning, or rather, getting paid, €950,000 per annum at RTÉ ar one point. He was then cut back to €729,000. When he left RTÉ he ended up with a five year deal for €2 million for more hours on air. The main reason he left RTÉ was because of his bitterness over wage cuts.
Now, Ryan Tubridy is a very different type of presenter to Pat Kenny. Pat Kenny is a fairly forensic interviewer and Newstalk needed someone with a bit of gravitas to build their brand as a serious news channel.
There is no commercial channel in this country who could match what Tubridy is being paid at RTÉ, or even come close to it so I'm not sure where he'd walk to.
Most people who pay for advertising on RTÉ do so because it's the national broadcaster, not because it's Ryan Tubridy.
Personally, I much prefer Oliver Callan in that role but that's a side issue.
Fair comment. I agree there is no other entity that would pay him more, but I believe they just wanted to keep him doing what he was doing and not going off and doing different things. I'm sure they didn't want him to leave the late late show either.
That may be correct but what always puzzled we was how he got those gigs in the first place. RTÉ created him and then was worried about him leaving but as far as I could see it read all an artificial construct.
Yeah, he's popular with a lot of people but the same level of exposure will do that for anyone really.
Maybe even me? Gosh, does anyone have a number for the talent hotline in RTÉ?
I'll put a word in with Noel Kelly Mick, I'll get you in there pal"
Take note, I won't get out of bed for less than half a million |
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"What’s really puzzling is how poor Turbidy is . Imagine losing your entire governance structure to overpay him "
I fucking accidentally heard a bit of liveline today as my Bluetooth connection failed and that abomination of a programme came on.
Anyway, at that very point there was a woman on telling us literally that he's not well off at all and that he can't afford to lose this job. Ffs, he's been in the top 1% of earners in Ireland for years so if he's not well off then it's his own fault. . |
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By *ind PaddyMan
over a year ago
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I enjoyed watching the soap opera on RTE in the Dail today, best value for my licence fee.
I feel sorry for current CFO Rich ard, he brought barter account into balance sheet which you are meant to do. Internal audit found irregularities. The old board were asleep including the workers rep. |
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By *ind PaddyMan
over a year ago
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He got his break in RTE in the first place cos his grandfather Todd Andrews was a former chairman of the RTE Authority a long time ago. The old Irish thing about who you know."
It will all blow over, be interesting to see if they let him back. |
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"I enjoyed watching the soap opera on RTE in the Dail today, best value for my licence fee.
I feel sorry for current CFO Rich ard, he brought barter account into balance sheet which you are meant to do. Internal audit found irregularities. The old board were asleep including the workers rep."
The CFO was in fact the one who attempted to bring some order to the sorry mess that was RTE 's lack of corporate governance but unfortunately for him he got run over by a runaway bus in doing so.
Tubs playing to the crowd, acting the victim and hiding behind NK was somewhat pathetic.
NK's refusal to outline the background to the tripartite deal, his constant mantra that "RTE made me do it" and his refusal to quantify his beneficial gain from the dodgy dealings was very Del Boy like. |
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I thought it was interesting that NK wouldn’t answer when he was asked about his cut of the Renault deal
If it was all organised by RTE then surely he’d have to forego his commission since he didn’t actually sort anything |
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Ciaran Cannon nailed it this evening when he asked NK about his interview with Grant Thornton where NK stated that HE had insisted RTE pay the money if the deal with Renault went south.
NK was clearly knocked back by this as if it was the first time he had heard it. He was Completely flustered.
The chair in her summation cited the fact that her opinion on this was squarely in line with Cannons comments.
All day NK has insisted that he assumed Renault paid all the money.
RT says he will pay back the money if the Renault events don't take place. Why doesn't he just pay back the money, and if said events happen get paid afterwards like most contracts do.
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"So whats everyone's thoughts on it so far
I pay the licence every year ...won't change that to be honest ...dont want any sort of conviction against me
Tubs....do you think he knew it was coming down the track
Got sent a video yesterday of someone having a go at him in a shop that led on the covid vaccine being a con and he ran out to the street .....felt a bit sorry for him
Apologies I don't know all their names but looking at it last night again felt sorry for the guy that didn't know his salary
I actually think he didn't want to say it in public and felt it was an unfair question
The rest.....whole shit show coming down the line ...be interesting to see who got tickets for events ( amazing how much of the talent went to rugby matches )
People still pay their TV license?
I always pay ....I'm self employed and need a tax clearance cert for some contracts so don't want any hassle that could effect that
I also have 3 different Garda clearance certs and again dont want to lose them "
.....to match your three passports?? |
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By *og-Man OP Man
over a year ago
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to match your three passports
No its a pain in the arse having to get clearance for everything where you could be perceived as a danger to others
So volunteering for charities needs clearance for each one
Why someone cant get a yearly clearance card I'll never know |
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Paddy Cosgrave (web summit founder) has on his twitter a link from someone who posted a photo of some of the Rte execs and their spouses attending a rugby match in Chicago few years ago - paid for by Rte.
Clearly the executives and their families were benefiting from these Rte slush funds to live the high life etc.
I saw the photo few days ago, think it was linked to another twitter account.
On a similar vein during the 2000's there was a TV series on Rte about a dance competition. Mainly young people teenagers/early 20's were competing, several auditions were held in towns around the country and it was all filmed for the series.
A friend told me that they knew one of the contestants and coming towards the end of the series they told me that their friend had won it, this was weeks before it was announced on the series finale etc and coincidentally that person won it.
They told me that the series was made by a separate production company who were contracted to do the show by Rte and it was filmed months earlier and broadcasted on Rte on a weekly basis later etc.
They then told me that the woman who won was related to the owner of the production company and the woman knew in advance probably before the series started filming that she'd be picked as the winner! So much then for all the other contestants who queued up doing their auditions thinking they were in with a chance to win when they were wasting their time from the start.
Turned me off Rte then etc. |
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In relation to Kenny man answering the questions in the Daily committee meeting it's so obvious from his demeanour that he was feigning ignorance and clearly thought he was going to bullshit his way through with the - I know nathing Mr Fawlty-routine!
It's so obvious from all the previous weeks information that he clearly knew exactly what was going on in Rte re the secret payments to Tubridy, if anyone thinks otherwise their a bit naive. |
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He got his break in RTE in the first place cos his grandfather Todd Andrews was a former chairman of the RTE Authority a long time ago. The old Irish thing about who you know."
Just goes to show how close knit certain media people in Ireland are, during the 2000's I think Tv3 did a series of interviews with mostly politicians hosted by Ursula Halligan. She interviewed Bertie and all the leaders of the different parties separately for each show. Each episode lasted about an hour and she basically interrogated each person, laid into them etc about their leadership style/party policy etc. She really grilled each person.
Then after that she did an episode where she interviewed the 3 Andrews brothers together on the same show. At the time I think either all of them were TD's in south Dublin. Now only one of them is a TD and he jumped ship from FF to Sinn Fein.
I just happened to watch it and I nearly fainted when I saw how she treated them. She was kissing their assess! She was sooo meek with them, having banter with them and no way did she interrogate any of them the way she treated the previous people.
It was unfucking believable to see how she ass kissed them and she portrayed herself as such a hard nosed serious journalist etc I didn't watch the rest of it as it was such a shit show.
So if you didn't know how connected these Andrews were before, it was definitely obvious after that night.
Obviously Tubridy was related to the right people.
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