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By *ubal1 OP Man
over a year ago
Newry Down |
Bertie Ahern seems to be reengaging with politics in Ireland, in order to make an assisted bid for the Aras in Phoenix Park, but I think the very best candidate would be Michael O'Leary, CEO of Ryanair.
He is highly intelligent, young,dynamic decisive and with excellent contacts worldwide that can benefit business and enterprise in Ireland.
Bertie Ahern is a faded, lame-duck political figure with too much baggage and dirty laundry to conceal.
Furthermore, he would have to be paid with cash in brown envelopes as he has never had a bank account, allegedly.
O'Leary is abrasive and shots from the hip, but he would tolerate no bs from anyone, either in business, politics oe civil servants.
He would get my vote, if I had one to give. |
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By *3nsesMan
over a year ago
Dublin |
The president never interacts with civil servants. Given the President has no power, I wouldn't have a huge problem with him being Presisent. He'd still be awful, but his ability to serious damage is quite limited. |
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All on for a businessman in the Áras. We voted for Sean Gallagher when many turned against him because of a fake Tweet. Would have liked to see him get in that time.
Bertie is awful, never want to see him in public life again but wouldn't put it past the fickle electorate. There are downsides to Democracy  |
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Given the role of the president is predominantly as a head of state and representative of the country the person chosen needs to be a statesman. It needs to be a person who can't meet international heads of state and dignitaries and is respected by them.
I certainly wouldn't elect Michael o Leary. Bertie, again not my choice, but is hugely respected by international leaders.
2025 should be interesting indeed |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It's only a position , has no authority to running the country , a guy like Michael O' Leary would be a complete waste of time as President..now as Taoiseach..that's a different kettle of fish..Sting was right.." poets , Priests and Politicians have words to thank for their position "..l have no faith in any politician..they just feather their own nest ..who decided that they get the financial amount they do ?... themselves. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"O'Leary should be running the country 
I've been saying that for years.
And we'd soon be working 7 day weeks! "
There would be no social welfare, nobody would ever win a legal case against the state ..sounds like a nightmare. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Joking aside, the presidency is purely a figurehead with no real power. Bertie could probably do a lot less damage there, as well as showing that the grand old Irish tradition of sleeveenism is still honoured. |
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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago
on the hill NordWest of |
"Joking aside, the presidency is purely a figurehead with no real power. Bertie could probably do a lot less damage there, as well as showing that the grand old Irish tradition of sleeveenism is still honoured."
The scary bit is that there actually is a chance he'd get elected. There's a tradition in this country to reelect the same crooks over and over again. Imagine being represented by Bertie on a national and international level.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Would love to see Eamonn Dunphy run. We need someone who speaks their mind and not afraid to upset people like most in office these days. He would bring intelligence,wit and charm. Yeah baby  |
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"Bertie Ahern seems to be reengaging with politics in Ireland, in order to make an assisted bid for the Aras in Phoenix Park, but I think the very best candidate would be Michael O'Leary, CEO of Ryanair.
He is highly intelligent, young,dynamic decisive and with excellent contacts worldwide that can benefit business and enterprise in Ireland.
Bertie Ahern is a faded, lame-duck political figure with too much baggage and dirty laundry to conceal.
Furthermore, he would have to be paid with cash in brown envelopes as he has never had a bank account, allegedly.
O'Leary is abrasive and shots from the hip, but he would tolerate no bs from anyone, either in business, politics oe civil servants.
He would get my vote, if I had one to give. "
This was a very leading question designed to instigate your preference! 
One point I'm confused about .... Michael o leary is young ???? |
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"Joking aside, the presidency is purely a figurehead with no real power. Bertie could probably do a lot less damage there, as well as showing that the grand old Irish tradition of sleeveenism is still honoured.
The scary bit is that there actually is a chance he'd get elected. There's a tradition in this country to reelect the same crooks over and over again. Imagine being represented by Bertie on a national and international level. "
A poll I saw this week (as much as they can be believed) said 5 percent would vote for him. I found this surprising because I thought there was a way more thickos living here |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Joking aside, the presidency is purely a figurehead with no real power. Bertie could probably do a lot less damage there, as well as showing that the grand old Irish tradition of sleeveenism is still honoured."
Not 100% true the president has the final say on the passing of laws and by promulgating it into law by signing it, if he /she believes such a law is repugnant to the constitution he can refuse its legitimacy |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I really hope the Irish people are not stupid enough to put Bertie ahearn in the position as president after driving us off a cliff edge in 2008 he's now back to annoy us all |
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I don't believe Micheal o Leary would be good in that role. First as you said he takes no BS, but as a statesman he would have to bite his tounge for the interest of the state. I don't think he could do that and loose a lot of good will or diplomats have earned us internationaly.but that's just my opinion. |
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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago
on the hill NordWest of |
"O'Leary should be running the country . Imagine o leary running the country. Everyone on minimum wage and no trade unions. "
... and priority login for an extra 10 quid for ROS and MyGovID.
It's baffling to see that some think he's the right man for the job. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Ivan Yates was a good politician and a good communicator. He is very politically aware and seems to be emotionally intelligent. He had his own problems like loss of his business and health issues. I always thought he would make a good president. I don’t see any prospective female candidates at the moment. |
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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago
somewhere |
"Ivan Yates was a good politician and a good communicator. He is very politically aware and seems to be emotionally intelligent. He had his own problems like loss of his business and health issues. I always thought he would make a good president. I don’t see any prospective female candidates at the moment."
He walked away owing the taxpayer a couple of million and is on a huge state pension
Would rather it wasn't a retirement home for politicians |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Was the shinners not hinting Adam's might be looking to run.
He's in the same category as Bertie according to the polls in that he wont get elected
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Just like that he won't get in, if we remember what happened to martin McGuinness when he ran for presidency, their past will always come back to haunt you |
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By *3nsesMan
over a year ago
Dublin |
"Joking aside, the presidency is purely a figurehead with no real power. Bertie could probably do a lot less damage there, as well as showing that the grand old Irish tradition of sleeveenism is still honoured.
Not 100% true the president has the final say on the passing of laws and by promulgating it into law by signing it, if he /she believes such a law is repugnant to the constitution he can refuse its legitimacy "
The President doesn't have the final say on passing laws. The President can refer any piece of legislation to the Supreme Court to ensure it is constitutionally valid but if they say it is then the President must sign it into law. |
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I don't think anyone mentioned has done anything in their careers to make them a suitable candidate to be President, and I can't think of anyone myself, though that's no better than M D Higgins who's political hero's were Cuban and South American political despot's.
Surprised no one has mentioned The BIFFO |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Ireland has had some great Presidents recently who have brought real gravitas and value to the role.
The two Marys were excellent, and Higgins has done a good job promoting irish culture. |
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By *oxminxCouple
over a year ago
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Hmmmm, can one assume Bertie now has a bank account to receive his pension/s into
A lot will vote for Bertie as he's a likeable rogue for many. It would appear he's a shoe in for nomination as he's currently got the FF PR machine behind him.
Can't see Adams in the mix as he'd be an easy target for the other parties to score points against Sinn Féin. Running the risk of wiping out a sizeable chunk of their "new" supporters.
Gérard Craughwell would be a right rebel. Full of life and from personal experience, a great lecturer to have studied under.
Joan Bruton would definitely have the credentials to carry out the duty but maybe not the public appeal.
Interested to watch how this one will unfold when the time comes.
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Let’s be serious,
Ml O Leary doesn’t want the Job, and wouldn’t go looking for a nominations!
So he is out of the equation!
The realistic candidates that I see are
1, Bertie- not a chance will he get 50% + 1 of the valid poll
2, Gerry Adams- many feel better has a lot of questions to answer, I also think Sinn Fein are looking to the future and not to the past, but it’s still his nomination if he wants it
3, Enda Kenny - like GA, his nomination if he wants it, but a lot blame him for the hardship we went through post Bertie!
4, Mairead McGuinness, broad appeal, but has to get past EK if he wants it!
Someone else may come along in the next year or so but these, to me are the front runners
Who else is a realistic candidate at this time!
Bear in mind, as candidates are chosen by politicians, it will be an older or retired politician! |
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I saw an opinion poll a couple of weeks ago re Bertie running for President!
Something like c15% said they’d probably vote for him, c15% said they possibly might vote for him, c20% said unlikely to vote for him & 50+ (51% I think) said they definitely wouldn’t vote for him!
Personally, id love to see him on the ballot paper, so the people of Ireland can show him just how unpopular he actually is? |
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By *ancy38Woman
over a year ago
galway |
"All on for a businessman in the Áras. We voted for Sean Gallagher when many turned against him because of a fake Tweet. Would have liked to see him get in that time.
Bertie is awful, never want to see him in public life again but wouldn't put it past the fickle electorate. There are downsides to Democracy "
Was there not more than a dodgey tweet. Did Martin McGuiness not expose him for some under the table brown envelope dealings. I think I remember something like this. |
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By *ubal1 OP Man
over a year ago
Newry Down |
The President is not in a position of traditional power and influence, but he or she is in a role which can set the tone of the country, and be a role model for businesses and other important societal organisations, such as schools, charities, etc.
Michael D, a sociologist and a humanitarian has made many philosophical speeches, but the world is now a more troubled place and a proundly dangerous environment, that requires much more dynamism and proactivity, internally and in a wider forum such as at the UN.
The role of President is an important one; Bertie has too much baggage, as does Gerry; so for me a suitable contender, on reflection might be Mairead McGuinness, who currently has a pivotal role in Europe.
Michael O'Leary CEO,whilst very dynamic and a problem solver par excellence, is probably too 'selfish', inherently selfinterested, and tactless, when nuanced diplomacy is required and more appropriate for particular fora.
However, he should be a key member of the Council of State, that acts in an advisory role in the Aras. |
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"O'Leary should be running the country
I've been saying that for years.
And we'd soon be working 7 day weeks! "
And Gardai, soldiers, fire and rescue, prison officers, customs and so on would have to pay for their uniforms and reach a scratch cards sales quota every month. Not only that, cars without wheels can go on the road tax free, for every wheel you put on it there’s a €50/journey tax payable at a wheel vending machine….. |
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"O'Leary should be running the country
I've been saying that for years.
And we'd soon be working 7 day weeks!
And Gardai, soldiers, fire and rescue, prison officers, customs and so on would have to pay for their uniforms and reach a scratch cards sales quota every month. Not only that, cars without wheels can go on the road tax free, for every wheel you put on it there’s a €50/journey tax payable at a wheel vending machine….."
That's the spirit |
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