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"Hes a prick His whole family are pricks Hopefully after this,like his sister he's unemployable and has to work in the family shop in castlebar He was in prison for contempt of court ....that's it...nothing to do with his religious beliefs Can't understand why the students in 5th and 6th dont get together and ask him to leave or leave his class My son who's that age reckons he'd be forced out by students in his school to stick up for their friend " Tbf I don't think it's the kids in 5th and 6th year that should be bearing that responsibility. What if one or two of them personally agree with him, you would then be ostracising them. | |||
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"Hes a prick His whole family are pricks Hopefully after this,like his sister he's unemployable and has to work in the family shop in castlebar He was in prison for contempt of court ....that's it...nothing to do with his religious beliefs Can't understand why the students in 5th and 6th dont get together and ask him to leave or leave his class My son who's that age reckons he'd be forced out by students in his school to stick up for their friend Tbf I don't think it's the kids in 5th and 6th year that should be bearing that responsibility. What if one or two of them personally agree with him, you would then be ostracising them. " They way he thought it could be done was for the students that want to do it to go into the class and all face the door together like a scrum to stop him coming in No violence.... | |||
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"He's not a prick he's standing up to this woke culture we find ourself submerged in, he has Christian beliefs that have stood to people for a thousand years, should we abandon our Christian beliefs just because a boy wants to be called a girl or vice versa? " 
He was suspended for continuous harrassment of school staff, and then arrested for breaking a court injunction for trespassing on school property.
These are stunts for attenttion now and the man is an absolute freak, just like the rest of his family. | |||
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"He's not a prick he's standing up to this woke culture we find ourself submerged in, he has Christian beliefs that have stood to people for a thousand years, should we abandon our Christian beliefs just because a boy wants to be called a girl or vice versa? " Absolutely nothing to do with why he was jailed | |||
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"Hes a prick His whole family are pricks Hopefully after this,like his sister he's unemployable and has to work in the family shop in castlebar He was in prison for contempt of court ....that's it...nothing to do with his religious beliefs Can't understand why the students in 5th and 6th dont get together and ask him to leave or leave his class My son who's that age reckons he'd be forced out by students in his school to stick up for their friend Tbf I don't think it's the kids in 5th and 6th year that should be bearing that responsibility. What if one or two of them personally agree with him, you would then be ostracising them. They way he thought it could be done was for the students that want to do it to go into the class and all face the door together like a scrum to stop him coming in No violence.... " I never mentioned violence. It just shouldn't be a kids responsibility to do this at all. So I can understand why 15-17 year olds didn't do that | |||
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"Hes a prick His whole family are pricks Hopefully after this,like his sister he's unemployable and has to work in the family shop in castlebar He was in prison for contempt of court ....that's it...nothing to do with his religious beliefs Can't understand why the students in 5th and 6th dont get together and ask him to leave or leave his class My son who's that age reckons he'd be forced out by students in his school to stick up for their friend Tbf I don't think it's the kids in 5th and 6th year that should be bearing that responsibility. What if one or two of them personally agree with him, you would then be ostracising them. They way he thought it could be done was for the students that want to do it to go into the class and all face the door together like a scrum to stop him coming in No violence.... I never mentioned violence. It just shouldn't be a kids responsibility to do this at all. So I can understand why 15-17 year olds didn't do that " Its just something my son was talking to me about and I agree that it should be up to the adults to sort it I understood his dad was the normal one of the family and yet dropping him to school and collecting him would knock that theory on the head He doesn't have any assets Id imagine so the courts won't have much luck there | |||
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"He's not a prick he's standing up to this woke culture we find ourself submerged in, he has Christian beliefs that have stood to people for a thousand years, should we abandon our Christian beliefs just because a boy wants to be called a girl or vice versa? " He went to jail because of the injunction, not his beliefs | |||
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"Hes a prick His whole family are pricks Hopefully after this,like his sister he's unemployable and has to work in the family shop in castlebar He was in prison for contempt of court ....that's it...nothing to do with his religious beliefs Can't understand why the students in 5th and 6th dont get together and ask him to leave or leave his class My son who's that age reckons he'd be forced out by students in his school to stick up for their friend Tbf I don't think it's the kids in 5th and 6th year that should be bearing that responsibility. What if one or two of them personally agree with him, you would then be ostracising them. They way he thought it could be done was for the students that want to do it to go into the class and all face the door together like a scrum to stop him coming in No violence.... I never mentioned violence. It just shouldn't be a kids responsibility to do this at all. So I can understand why 15-17 year olds didn't do that Its just something my son was talking to me about and I agree that it should be up to the adults to sort it I understood his dad was the normal one of the family and yet dropping him to school and collecting him would knock that theory on the head He doesn't have any assets Id imagine so the courts won't have much luck there " Fair enough. And if its something the students decided to do all power to them i just thought the line "Can't understand why the students in 5th and 6th dont get together and ask him to leave or leave his class" was a little unfair on the kids actually involved  | |||
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"He's not a prick he's standing up to this woke culture we find ourself submerged in, he has Christian beliefs that have stood to people for a thousand years, should we abandon our Christian beliefs just because a boy wants to be called a girl or vice versa? " They aren't my Christian beliefs tbh and I don't think I'm a small minority in that | |||
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"He's not a prick he's standing up to this woke culture we find ourself submerged in, he has Christian beliefs that have stood to people for a thousand years, should we abandon our Christian beliefs just because a boy wants to be called a girl or vice versa? He went to jail because of the injunction, not his beliefs " His strongely held Christian beliefs are what has him in the position he's in now, he won't back down | |||
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"He’s getting his 15 mins of fame in the spotlight. His beliefs are not of the majority but he feels strongly enough to stand up for his beliefs to the point of over 100 days in prison.I totally disagree with what he stands for and the extreme religious views but you have to admire his character for standing up there and arguing ever point and testing the law at huge personal cost that many of us wouldn’t even bother to challenge a parking ticket , Let him off he has no public support no one is standing out on the street holding placards for his views it’s just entertainment at this point I suspect he’s doesn’t have a profile in here " Just like that you can't but not admire a man who stands his ground especially under these circumstances. | |||
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"He's not a prick he's standing up to this woke culture we find ourself submerged in, he has Christian beliefs that have stood to people for a thousand years, should we abandon our Christian beliefs just because a boy wants to be called a girl or vice versa? " I don’t remember anything in the bible about trans stuff, he’s using the religion card as cover for making a muppet of himself. | |||
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"He's not a prick he's standing up to this woke culture we find ourself submerged in, he has Christian beliefs that have stood to people for a thousand years, should we abandon our Christian beliefs just because a boy wants to be called a girl or vice versa? I don’t remember anything in the bible about trans stuff, he’s using the religion card as cover for making a muppet of himself. " Bible, King James VersionDeut.22 [5] The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God. Oh it's there alright. It's actually why Joan of Arc was killed apparently | |||
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"he has no public support no one is standing out on the street holding placards for his views" Eh... he does, and there are. | |||
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"https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/commentanalysis/arid-40958879.html Interesting read " Very interesting. | |||
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"People placing more importance on the man's religious beliefs than his duty of care towards children in his job - yikes." Christian beliefs protect children period | |||
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"he has no public support no one is standing out on the street holding placards for his views Eh... he does, and there are." Don’t see anything on the main media outlets giving them any coverage | |||
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"People placing more importance on the man's religious beliefs than his duty of care towards children in his job - yikes. Christian beliefs protect children period " And how’s that been working out? | |||
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"he has no public support no one is standing out on the street holding placards for his views Eh... he does, and there are. Don’t see anything on the main media outlets giving them any coverage " Thats hardly surprising now is it | |||
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"People placing more importance on the man's religious beliefs than his duty of care towards children in his job - yikes. Christian beliefs protect children period " Tell that to the children of Letterfrack, Tuam, etc  | |||
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"He's not a prick he's standing up to this woke culture we find ourself submerged in, he has Christian beliefs that have stood to people for a thousand years, should we abandon our Christian beliefs just because a boy wants to be called a girl or vice versa? He went to jail because of the injunction, not his beliefs His strongely held Christian beliefs are what has him in the position he's in now, he won't back down " He was in jail due to the harassment of the school principle and not staying away from the school. That's on him! He's entitled to his beliefs, but he could have stayed out of jail to challenge them. He didn't because he wanted the fame and attention | |||
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"People placing more importance on the man's religious beliefs than his duty of care towards children in his job - yikes. Christian beliefs protect children period " Have you read any of the reports on priests abusing children in this state | |||
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"People placing more importance on the man's religious beliefs than his duty of care towards children in his job - yikes. Christian beliefs protect children period " Fucking LOL. Funniest thing I have read on this forum and I am here years. Actually I'm not sure because I don't even know if that statement was meant to be serious. | |||
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"People placing more importance on the man's religious beliefs than his duty of care towards children in his job - yikes. Christian beliefs protect children period " Must have been the Hindus and Buddhists abusing all those kids….. | |||
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"he has no public support no one is standing out on the street holding placards for his views Eh... he does, and there are. Don’t see anything on the main media outlets giving them any coverage " Thats cause all the right wing nutcases ....sorry citizen journalists are on Twitter with their lies about this case and others | |||
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"People placing more importance on the man's religious beliefs than his duty of care towards children in his job - yikes. Christian beliefs protect children period Have you read any of the reports on priests abusing children in this state " It wasnt christian beliefs that absued kids though was it, it was evil people under the cloak of christianity carrying out those acts | |||
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"People placing more importance on the man's religious beliefs than his duty of care towards children in his job - yikes. Christian beliefs protect children period And how’s that been working out?" It works great until sadists and paedophiles hijack it to satisfy their own sickness | |||
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"People placing more importance on the man's religious beliefs than his duty of care towards children in his job - yikes. Christian beliefs protect children period Have you read any of the reports on priests abusing children in this state It wasnt christian beliefs that absued kids though was it, it was evil people under the cloak of christianity carrying out those acts" Just like that | |||
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"People placing more importance on the man's religious beliefs than his duty of care towards children in his job - yikes. Christian beliefs protect children period " My Athiest lesbian daughter gets protected by her loving family not some outdated Christian beliefs. | |||
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" Christian beliefs protect children period "
Really? Fr Brendan Smyth etc | |||
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"The Burke siblings,although quite intelligent, are incapable of living in society. They've been raised and educated in a cult environment. I believ there is also a legal strategy to Burkes return. He may be required to be present for the schools internal disciplinary hearing, after which he will be fired. The school will be hesitant to do so in his absence. He could have a legal avenue to seek compensation if they do so. One he would probably win. Like all these god fearing evangelical christians, it's all about two things 1. Attention stunts 2. The bottom line €€€" Could not agree more with you. He is gone to school to get a pay off I bet. He is a total hypocrite. Do you know how much he has cost the the State ie the taxpayer so far. There were 5 garda who excorted him to Bridewell Garda Station. He was housed in the training unit and not in the rest of the prison population. It costs a lot of money to go to High Court. Hopefully he gets charged has a criminal conviction and he may not get a visa to good auld USA. | |||
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" Christian beliefs protect children period
Really? Fr Brendan Smyth etc"A paedophile who hijacked Catholicism to satisfy his sickness | |||
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"People placing more importance on the man's religious beliefs than his duty of care towards children in his job - yikes. Christian beliefs protect children period Have you read any of the reports on priests abusing children in this state It wasnt christian beliefs that absued kids though was it, it was evil people under the cloak of christianity carrying out those acts" What about the bishops that moved priests around ....the Christian thing to do according to them ...give the poor priest another chance | |||
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"People placing more importance on the man's religious beliefs than his duty of care towards children in his job - yikes. Christian beliefs protect children period And how’s that been working out? It works great until sadists and paedophiles hijack it to satisfy their own sickness " Hijack it? Many were leaders in this institution you believe will protest child. I think you need to give your head a wobble. | |||
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"People placing more importance on the man's religious beliefs than his duty of care towards children in his job - yikes. Christian beliefs protect children period " Tell that to the multiple kids sexually abused by members of the clergy or the damage done by magdalan nuns | |||
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" Christian beliefs protect children period
Really? Fr Brendan Smyth etc
A paedophile who hijacked Catholicism to satisfy his sickness"And used his beliefs under catholicism to cover it up, along with his superiors. But sure, all is grand and private under confessional privacy..... Anyway, done talking about Burke...better things in life to spend time on | |||
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"People placing more importance on the man's religious beliefs than his duty of care towards children in his job - yikes. Christian beliefs protect children period Have you read any of the reports on priests abusing children in this state It wasnt christian beliefs that absued kids though was it, it was evil people under the cloak of christianity carrying out those acts What about the bishops that moved priests around ....the Christian thing to do according to them ...give the poor priest another chance" Once again, there is nothing in the christian doctrine that made those decisions correct. Just because someone is devoted to a religion doesnt mean every action in their life can be attributed to that religion. Human beings go off reserve sometimes, and some human beings are just evil | |||
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"People placing more importance on the man's religious beliefs than his duty of care towards children in his job - yikes. Christian beliefs protect children period Have you read any of the reports on priests abusing children in this state It wasnt christian beliefs that absued kids though was it, it was evil people under the cloak of christianity carrying out those acts What about the bishops that moved priests around ....the Christian thing to do according to them ...give the poor priest another chance Once again, there is nothing in the christian doctrine that made those decisions correct. Just because someone is devoted to a religion doesnt mean every action in their life can be attributed to that religion. Human beings go off reserve sometimes, and some human beings are just evil" Perhaps Burke’s actions can’t be attributed to his religion and he’s going off the the reservation? Or is that not convenient? | |||
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"People placing more importance on the man's religious beliefs than his duty of care towards children in his job - yikes. Christian beliefs protect children period And how’s that been working out? It works great until sadists and paedophiles hijack it to satisfy their own sickness Hijack it? Many were leaders in this institution you believe will protest child. I think you need to give your head a wobble." Yes Catholicism was hijacked by paedophiles sadists and other evil types to satisfy their sickness and the sad thing is evil people like this usually make it to the top of every organisation, no where in Catholic teachings or indeed any other major organised religion does it state that abuse of children is just, how can a religious order out a paedophile? They can't because evil like this is everywhere.. Is that wobbled enough for you | |||
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"People placing more importance on the man's religious beliefs than his duty of care towards children in his job - yikes. Christian beliefs protect children period Have you read any of the reports on priests abusing children in this state It wasnt christian beliefs that absued kids though was it, it was evil people under the cloak of christianity carrying out those acts What about the bishops that moved priests around ....the Christian thing to do according to them ...give the poor priest another chance Once again, there is nothing in the christian doctrine that made those decisions correct. Just because someone is devoted to a religion doesnt mean every action in their life can be attributed to that religion. Human beings go off reserve sometimes, and some human beings are just evil Perhaps Burke’s actions can’t be attributed to his religion and he’s going off the the reservation? Or is that not convenient?" As i intimated above, im unclear of what his actions have exactly been. Nobody has given me specific details of what he did to first get the ban from the school, and reports online vary | |||
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"People placing more importance on the man's religious beliefs than his duty of care towards children in his job - yikes. Christian beliefs protect children period Have you read any of the reports on priests abusing children in this state It wasnt christian beliefs that absued kids though was it, it was evil people under the cloak of christianity carrying out those acts What about the bishops that moved priests around ....the Christian thing to do according to them ...give the poor priest another chance Once again, there is nothing in the christian doctrine that made those decisions correct. Just because someone is devoted to a religion doesnt mean every action in their life can be attributed to that religion. Human beings go off reserve sometimes, and some human beings are just evil" All that is true. And even if it wasn't Christian beliefs that harmed them rather than evil people. I don't see where Christian beliefs have protected any of those children. | |||
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"People placing more importance on the man's religious beliefs than his duty of care towards children in his job - yikes. Christian beliefs protect children period Have you read any of the reports on priests abusing children in this state It wasnt christian beliefs that absued kids though was it, it was evil people under the cloak of christianity carrying out those acts What about the bishops that moved priests around ....the Christian thing to do according to them ...give the poor priest another chance Once again, there is nothing in the christian doctrine that made those decisions correct. Just because someone is devoted to a religion doesnt mean every action in their life can be attributed to that religion. Human beings go off reserve sometimes, and some human beings are just evil Perhaps Burke’s actions can’t be attributed to his religion and he’s going off the the reservation? Or is that not convenient? As i intimated above, im unclear of what his actions have exactly been. Nobody has given me specific details of what he did to first get the ban from the school, and reports online vary" I did link above to a very good article by the Irish examiner to explain everything in great detail | |||
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"People placing more importance on the man's religious beliefs than his duty of care towards children in his job - yikes. Christian beliefs protect children period And how’s that been working out? It works great until sadists and paedophiles hijack it to satisfy their own sickness Hijack it? Many were leaders in this institution you believe will protest child. I think you need to give your head a wobble. Yes Catholicism was hijacked by paedophiles sadists and other evil types to satisfy their sickness and the sad thing is evil people like this usually make it to the top of every organisation, no where in Catholic teachings or indeed any other major organised religion does it state that abuse of children is just, how can a religious order out a paedophile? They can't because evil like this is everywhere.. Is that wobbled enough for you " I don’t even know where to start with this…. A religious order can’t out peadophiles because evil like this is everywhere? Probably best not to wobble your head any more if that’s what falling out…. | |||
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"People placing more importance on the man's religious beliefs than his duty of care towards children in his job - yikes. Christian beliefs protect children period Have you read any of the reports on priests abusing children in this state It wasnt christian beliefs that absued kids though was it, it was evil people under the cloak of christianity carrying out those acts What about the bishops that moved priests around ....the Christian thing to do according to them ...give the poor priest another chance Once again, there is nothing in the christian doctrine that made those decisions correct. Just because someone is devoted to a religion doesnt mean every action in their life can be attributed to that religion. Human beings go off reserve sometimes, and some human beings are just evil All that is true. And even if it wasn't Christian beliefs that harmed them rather than evil people. I don't see where Christian beliefs have protected any of those children." I guess what that poster was referring to was that christianity at its core is about love, respect, family values etc. All of those things would be nurturing and protective for a child | |||
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"People placing more importance on the man's religious beliefs than his duty of care towards children in his job - yikes. Christian beliefs protect children period Have you read any of the reports on priests abusing children in this state It wasnt christian beliefs that absued kids though was it, it was evil people under the cloak of christianity carrying out those acts What about the bishops that moved priests around ....the Christian thing to do according to them ...give the poor priest another chance Once again, there is nothing in the christian doctrine that made those decisions correct. Just because someone is devoted to a religion doesnt mean every action in their life can be attributed to that religion. Human beings go off reserve sometimes, and some human beings are just evil Perhaps Burke’s actions can’t be attributed to his religion and he’s going off the the reservation? Or is that not convenient? As i intimated above, im unclear of what his actions have exactly been. Nobody has given me specific details of what he did to first get the ban from the school, and reports online vary I did link above to a very good article by the Irish examiner to explain everything in great detail " Ok. Ill have a read of that so | |||
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"People placing more importance on the man's religious beliefs than his duty of care towards children in his job - yikes. Christian beliefs protect children period Have you read any of the reports on priests abusing children in this state It wasnt christian beliefs that absued kids though was it, it was evil people under the cloak of christianity carrying out those acts What about the bishops that moved priests around ....the Christian thing to do according to them ...give the poor priest another chance Once again, there is nothing in the christian doctrine that made those decisions correct. Just because someone is devoted to a religion doesnt mean every action in their life can be attributed to that religion. Human beings go off reserve sometimes, and some human beings are just evil All that is true. And even if it wasn't Christian beliefs that harmed them rather than evil people. I don't see where Christian beliefs have protected any of those children. I guess what that poster was referring to was that christianity at its core is about love, respect, family values etc. All of those things would be nurturing and protective for a child" Those things can be provided but non christian beliefs too. Good people protect children not good beliefs | |||
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"People placing more importance on the man's religious beliefs than his duty of care towards children in his job - yikes. Christian beliefs protect children period Have you read any of the reports on priests abusing children in this state It wasnt christian beliefs that absued kids though was it, it was evil people under the cloak of christianity carrying out those acts What about the bishops that moved priests around ....the Christian thing to do according to them ...give the poor priest another chance Once again, there is nothing in the christian doctrine that made those decisions correct. Just because someone is devoted to a religion doesnt mean every action in their life can be attributed to that religion. Human beings go off reserve sometimes, and some human beings are just evil All that is true. And even if it wasn't Christian beliefs that harmed them rather than evil people. I don't see where Christian beliefs have protected any of those children. I guess what that poster was referring to was that christianity at its core is about love, respect, family values etc. All of those things would be nurturing and protective for a child Those things can be provided but non christian beliefs too. Good people protect children not good beliefs" True but christianity actively espouses those values. It doesnt have a monopoly on them of course but it does promote them | |||
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"People placing more importance on the man's religious beliefs than his duty of care towards children in his job - yikes. Christian beliefs protect children period Have you read any of the reports on priests abusing children in this state It wasnt christian beliefs that absued kids though was it, it was evil people under the cloak of christianity carrying out those acts What about the bishops that moved priests around ....the Christian thing to do according to them ...give the poor priest another chance Once again, there is nothing in the christian doctrine that made those decisions correct. Just because someone is devoted to a religion doesnt mean every action in their life can be attributed to that religion. Human beings go off reserve sometimes, and some human beings are just evil All that is true. And even if it wasn't Christian beliefs that harmed them rather than evil people. I don't see where Christian beliefs have protected any of those children. I guess what that poster was referring to was that christianity at its core is about love, respect, family values etc. All of those things would be nurturing and protective for a child Those things can be provided but non christian beliefs too. Good people protect children not good beliefs True but christianity actively espouses those values. It doesnt have a monopoly on them of course but it does promote them" In theory but the embodiment of it in this country, the church, has obviously eroded peoples trust and belief in Christianity. And the two are unavoidably intertwined. | |||
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"People placing more importance on the man's religious beliefs than his duty of care towards children in his job - yikes. Christian beliefs protect children period Have you read any of the reports on priests abusing children in this state It wasnt christian beliefs that absued kids though was it, it was evil people under the cloak of christianity carrying out those acts What about the bishops that moved priests around ....the Christian thing to do according to them ...give the poor priest another chance Once again, there is nothing in the christian doctrine that made those decisions correct. Just because someone is devoted to a religion doesnt mean every action in their life can be attributed to that religion. Human beings go off reserve sometimes, and some human beings are just evil Perhaps Burke’s actions can’t be attributed to his religion and he’s going off the the reservation? Or is that not convenient? As i intimated above, im unclear of what his actions have exactly been. Nobody has given me specific details of what he did to first get the ban from the school, and reports online vary I did link above to a very good article by the Irish examiner to explain everything in great detail Ok. Ill have a read of that so" Ive read that article. To me, the crux of the issue is this: If the principal instructed teachers to use the pronouns mentioned, then that was wrong and a gross overreach by her. I could then understand why he would have pushed back fervently as he did If however, the principal merely asked them to use the pronouns mentioned (while acknowledging they are feee to decline) , then he should have been content to refuse to use them and continue as normal. In that situation, i would suggest his actions were over the top. Its unclear from the article whether it was an instruction or a request | |||
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"People placing more importance on the man's religious beliefs than his duty of care towards children in his job - yikes. Christian beliefs protect children period And how’s that been working out? It works great until sadists and paedophiles hijack it to satisfy their own sickness Hijack it? Many were leaders in this institution you believe will protest child. I think you need to give your head a wobble. Yes Catholicism was hijacked by paedophiles sadists and other evil types to satisfy their sickness and the sad thing is evil people like this usually make it to the top of every organisation, no where in Catholic teachings or indeed any other major organised religion does it state that abuse of children is just, how can a religious order out a paedophile? They can't because evil like this is everywhere.. Is that wobbled enough for you I don’t even know where to start with this…. A religious order can’t out peadophiles because evil like this is everywhere? Probably best not to wobble your head any more if that’s what falling out…." What's so difficult to understand about this? There is evil all around us.. There are paedophiles everywhere is all walks of life even people you wouldnt expect, people you think are the nicest and most decent are sometimes not what you think they are, they are masters of deception and can fool anybody to get what they want | |||
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"People placing more importance on the man's religious beliefs than his duty of care towards children in his job - yikes. Christian beliefs protect children period " I’ve never laughed so hard. Are you on the wind up? A generation of kids fiddled with by priests. Women locked up in laundries for being women. Christian values protect kids… absolutely hilarious | |||
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"People placing more importance on the man's religious beliefs than his duty of care towards children in his job - yikes. Christian beliefs protect children period Have you read any of the reports on priests abusing children in this state It wasnt christian beliefs that absued kids though was it, it was evil people under the cloak of christianity carrying out those acts What about the bishops that moved priests around ....the Christian thing to do according to them ...give the poor priest another chance Once again, there is nothing in the christian doctrine that made those decisions correct. Just because someone is devoted to a religion doesnt mean every action in their life can be attributed to that religion. Human beings go off reserve sometimes, and some human beings are just evil All that is true. And even if it wasn't Christian beliefs that harmed them rather than evil people. I don't see where Christian beliefs have protected any of those children. I guess what that poster was referring to was that christianity at its core is about love, respect, family values etc. All of those things would be nurturing and protective for a child" Well said | |||
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" Burke was released from jail He's gonna win his case And get alot of compensation " Compensation for what exactly?
He was in contempt of a high court order. That's nobody else's fault only his. | |||
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" Burke was released from jail He's gonna win his case And get alot of compensation " He won't get a cent. That's why he stayed in jail. He wanted them to sack him while he was in there, then he'd have a claim. The judge was then caught between been seen to uphold the contempt of court and also not wanting him to sue the school. So he's out now. He will have received a solicitor's letter for his disclipinary hearing which he can now attend and be sacked. We await his next stunt/fiasco after that. | |||
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"My kids are atheist but go to Catholic school I taught them to have knowledge and respect of all the different beliefs not just the Catholic ones. Couple years ago my youngest was in 6th class the Priest came to visit he was asking them all questions about Catholism there was silence around the class kids didn't know answers so my daughter who doesn't participate in class she's allowed to do her own work answers all the questions as there's such a awkward silence. He asks her was she looking forward to the Confirmation dead pan she replies I'm Atheist. The teacher hid her in the library next time he came to visit "Love that | |||
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"Ok ....i know the school in question ,some of the teachers and some of the parents .....so here are some FACTS ! mr Burke is brilliant teacher,FACT. He and the other teachers were informed that the pupil in question wished to be known by the "they" pronoun Mr Burke privately objected to this on the grounds of his religious beliefs. In public he challenged the principle and allegedly "pushed" the principal. He was suspended, asked not to attend school,in order for this to be investigated and put before the school board. He kept attending school so the school took out the injunction against him.to stop him attending. He didn't comply .....hence went to prison. " In all fairness, his teaching ability is utterly irrelevant. The final two paragraphs are the ones that matter. | |||
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"Ok ....i know the school in question ,some of the teachers and some of the parents .....so here are some FACTS ! mr Burke is brilliant teacher,FACT. He and the other teachers were informed that the pupil in question wished to be known by the "they" pronoun Mr Burke privately objected to this on the grounds of his religious beliefs. In public he challenged the principle and allegedly "pushed" the principal. He was suspended, asked not to attend school,in order for this to be investigated and put before the school board. He kept attending school so the school took out the injunction against him.to stop him attending. He didn't comply .....hence went to prison. " Were he and the other teachers instructed to use those pronouns or asked to use them? | |||
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"You cant instruct anyone to call someone something . The pupils name is still the one on the birth cert......his religious objection is to the idea that ANY gender other than male/female exists.....which he has the right to do ." Ok, but what specifically did the principal do...did she instruct them to use those pronouns or ask them to use them? | |||
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"Informed them of the pupils circumsrances and that they wanted the pronoun "they" to be used. Instructed no-one! Mr Burke has no dealings with the pupil in question. His issue is with gender recognition. " Ok, so if they weren't instructed to do it and merely told that this is what the student would prefer, then i would suggest he may have gone too far then. | |||
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" It wasnt christian beliefs that absued kids though was it, it was evil people under the cloak of christianity carrying out those acts" Absolute nonsense, if you read just one chapter of The Comission into Child Abuse report you wouldn't be making silly statements like that! | |||
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" It wasnt christian beliefs that absued kids though was it, it was evil people under the cloak of christianity carrying out those acts Absolute nonsense, if you read just one chapter of The Comission into Child Abuse report you wouldn't be making silly statements like that! "Ok, well i havent read it and im unlikely to...does it say christianity told them to do it? | |||
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" It wasnt christian beliefs that absued kids though was it, it was evil people under the cloak of christianity carrying out those acts Absolute nonsense, if you read just one chapter of The Comission into Child Abuse report you wouldn't be making silly statements like that!
Ok, well i havent read it and im unlikely to...does it say christianity told them to do it? "It didn't need to, they, and there was hundreds of them, were the heads of christanity in this country. Who spent there time practicing and preaching to all how their life's should be lived. Not forgetting all the hundreds of witnesses and those who turned a blind eye...You should read it, it might open yours! | |||
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"People placing more importance on the man's religious beliefs than his duty of care towards children in his job - yikes. Christian beliefs protect children period Have you read any of the reports on priests abusing children in this state It wasnt christian beliefs that absued kids though was it, it was evil people under the cloak of christianity carrying out those acts What about the bishops that moved priests around ....the Christian thing to do according to them ...give the poor priest another chance Once again, there is nothing in the christian doctrine that made those decisions correct. Just because someone is devoted to a religion doesnt mean every action in their life can be attributed to that religion. Human beings go off reserve sometimes, and some human beings are just evil" Abuse, oppression and misconduct etc. was systemic in the Catholic Church, not only in Ireland but all over the world. Additionally it was denied, covered up and burried by the Catholic church's superiors up to the very top. To reduce the crimes committed in the name of the Catholic church to a few misguided sheep is just another 'excuse' and ads insult to the injury of the victims and those affected by it. | |||
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" It wasnt christian beliefs that absued kids though was it, it was evil people under the cloak of christianity carrying out those acts Absolute nonsense, if you read just one chapter of The Comission into Child Abuse report you wouldn't be making silly statements like that!
Ok, well i havent read it and im unlikely to...does it say christianity told them to do it?
It didn't need to, they, and there was hundreds of them, were the heads of christanity in this country. Who spent there time practicing and preaching to all how their life's should be lived.
Not forgetting all the hundreds of witnesses and those who turned a blind eye...You should read it, it might open yours!"All very horrible, nobody is disputing that...but did their religion tell them to do it or their own deviance? Because that's the only point i was making | |||
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"People placing more importance on the man's religious beliefs than his duty of care towards children in his job - yikes. Christian beliefs protect children period Have you read any of the reports on priests abusing children in this state It wasnt christian beliefs that absued kids though was it, it was evil people under the cloak of christianity carrying out those acts What about the bishops that moved priests around ....the Christian thing to do according to them ...give the poor priest another chance Once again, there is nothing in the christian doctrine that made those decisions correct. Just because someone is devoted to a religion doesnt mean every action in their life can be attributed to that religion. Human beings go off reserve sometimes, and some human beings are just evil Abuse, oppression and misconduct etc. was systemic in the Catholic Church, not only in Ireland but all over the world. Additionally it was denied, covered up and burried by the Catholic church's superiors up to the very top. To reduce the crimes committed in the name of the Catholic church to a few misguided sheep is just another 'excuse' and ads insult to the injury of the victims and those affected by it. " Whos doing that | |||
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"People placing more importance on the man's religious beliefs than his duty of care towards children in his job - yikes. Christian beliefs protect children period Have you read any of the reports on priests abusing children in this state It wasnt christian beliefs that absued kids though was it, it was evil people under the cloak of christianity carrying out those acts What about the bishops that moved priests around ....the Christian thing to do according to them ...give the poor priest another chance Once again, there is nothing in the christian doctrine that made those decisions correct. Just because someone is devoted to a religion doesnt mean every action in their life can be attributed to that religion. Human beings go off reserve sometimes, and some human beings are just evil Abuse, oppression and misconduct etc. was systemic in the Catholic Church, not only in Ireland but all over the world. Additionally it was denied, covered up and burried by the Catholic church's superiors up to the very top. To reduce the crimes committed in the name of the Catholic church to a few misguided sheep is just another 'excuse' and ads insult to the injury of the victims and those affected by it. Whos doing that" Some of the statements above imply that imo. | |||
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" It wasnt christian beliefs that absued kids though was it, it was evil people under the cloak of christianity carrying out those acts Absolute nonsense, if you read just one chapter of The Comission into Child Abuse report you wouldn't be making silly statements like that!
Ok, well i havent read it and im unlikely to...does it say christianity told them to do it?
It didn't need to, they, and there was hundreds of them, were the heads of christanity in this country. Who spent there time practicing and preaching to all how their life's should be lived.
Not forgetting all the hundreds of witnesses and those who turned a blind eye...You should read it, it might open yours!
All very horrible, nobody is disputing that...but did their religion tell them to do it or their own deviance?
Because that's the only point i was making"No but plenty others in said religion helped them cover it up for years, priests moved to another parish when complaints started to come so they could continue to prey on vulnerable people who trusted members of the clergy, that's not outing peadophiles that's conspiring with them to continue what they're doing | |||
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" All very horrible, nobody is disputing that...but did their religion tell them to do it or their own deviance? Because that's the only point i was making" They were the religion. A simple question: In the mid 90s when these scandals began to break. The church including Pope John Paul personally, actively tried to silence victims. If he got one chance to silence and hide all the victims...Would he have taken it? (We all know the answer, and everthing else is irelevant) | |||
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" All very horrible, nobody is disputing that...but did their religion tell them to do it or their own deviance? Because that's the only point i was making They were the religion. A simple question: In the mid 90s when these scandals began to break. The church including Pope John Paul personally, actively tried to silence victims. If he got one chance to silence and hide all the victims...Would he have taken it? (We all know the answer, and everthing else is irelevant)" I have no idea. I didnt know the man personally | |||
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" I have no idea. I didnt know the man personally" With an ability to avoid reality like that, you'd have made a great priest! | |||
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" I have no idea. I didnt know the man personally With an ability to avoid reality like that, you'd have made a great priest! "Ok. Thanks for that | |||
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" I have no idea. I didnt know the man personally With an ability to avoid reality like that, you'd have made a great priest! " | |||
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"People placing more importance on the man's religious beliefs than his duty of care towards children in his job - yikes. Christian beliefs protect children period " Such nonsense | |||
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"He's not a prick he's standing up to this woke culture we find ourself submerged in, he has Christian beliefs that have stood to people for a thousand years, should we abandon our Christian beliefs just because a boy wants to be called a girl or vice versa? " You're missing the point. His religious beliefs are his own business. He is in prison for defying a Court Order and thereby placing himself in contempt of Court. Please do not refer to "our Christian beliefs" Not everyone shares those beliefs and organised religion has caused so much suffering in the world over the years. | |||
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"The focus is all on Enoch Burke, but at the centre of this story is a child brave enough to come to terms with their own identity, only to have a teacher refuse to accept them. This is a grown man pitting himself against a child. " Burke had an issue with the principals directives which was to refer to a child as they and not he/she and he completely disagreed with that, there was no confrontation with the child in question, you make it sound like he followed this child around screaming abuse, he had a disagreement with the principle and voices were raised, don't make it sound worse than it actually is | |||
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"He's not a prick he's standing up to this woke culture we find ourself submerged in, he has Christian beliefs that have stood to people for a thousand years, should we abandon our Christian beliefs just because a boy wants to be called a girl or vice versa? You're missing the point. His religious beliefs are his own business. He is in prison for defying a Court Order and thereby placing himself in contempt of Court. Please do not refer to "our Christian beliefs" Not everyone shares those beliefs and organised religion has caused so much suffering in the world over the years." He's in prison because of his devout Christian beliefs, yes he defied a court order but in his eyes he hasnt done anything wrong the man is a hero | |||
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"You cant instruct anyone to call someone something . The pupils name is still the one on the birth cert......his religious objection is to the idea that ANY gender other than male/female exists.....which he has the right to do ." That isn't the case though In a black and white literal sense then a James can't be Jim, a Charlotte Charly, a Susan Sue, a Joseph Joe and so on. Take it on a little further and there's no Peggy (Margaret), Bill (William), no Grá for Gráinne, Fred (Frederick), Nick/y (Nicholas/Nicola) etc or indeed Irish versions of names. However, we take people's name as they request us to address them by whatever name they ask us to. Sure, on Fab we refer to each other using user handles and it works just fine. Well, until we go out for the Vanilla Meets, that is, and no need for birth certs to boot  
In relation to his right to object to gender existence, well he certainly has a right to consider that two genders exist. However, he also doesn't have the right to allocate or assume anyone else's gender. Least of all someone who's been given professional medical advice to better that of a soon to be ex history teacher  | |||
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" It wasnt christian beliefs that absued kids though was it, it was evil people under the cloak of christianity carrying out those acts Absolute nonsense, if you read just one chapter of The Comission into Child Abuse report you wouldn't be making silly statements like that!
Ok, well i havent read it and im unlikely to...does it say christianity told them to do it?
It didn't need to, they, and there was hundreds of them, were the heads of christanity in this country. Who spent there time practicing and preaching to all how their life's should be lived.
Not forgetting all the hundreds of witnesses and those who turned a blind eye...You should read it, it might open yours!
All very horrible, nobody is disputing that...but did their religion tell them to do it or their own deviance?
Because that's the only point i was making
No but plenty others in said religion helped them cover it up for years, priests moved to another parish when complaints started to come so they could continue to prey on vulnerable people who trusted members of the clergy, that's not outing peadophiles that's conspiring with them to continue what they're doing"Nobody wants to confront childhood sexual abuse its the most taboo subject there is, most people want it hidden swept under the carpet and the Catholic Church is no different, thankfully we are moving forward with our attitudes and way of thinking and can deal with taboo subjects more responsibly and in an adult fashion | |||
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"He's not a prick he's standing up to this woke culture we find ourself submerged in, he has Christian beliefs that have stood to people for a thousand years, should we abandon our Christian beliefs just because a boy wants to be called a girl or vice versa? You're missing the point. His religious beliefs are his own business. He is in prison for defying a Court Order and thereby placing himself in contempt of Court. Please do not refer to "our Christian beliefs" Not everyone shares those beliefs and organised religion has caused so much suffering in the world over the years. He's in prison because of his devout Christian beliefs, yes he defied a court order but in his eyes he hasnt done anything wrong the man is a hero "So ,you're saying his beliefs should be respected, even if you don't agree yes | |||
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"The focus is all on Enoch Burke, but at the centre of this story is a child brave enough to come to terms with their own identity, only to have a teacher refuse to accept them. This is a grown man pitting himself against a child. Burke had an issue with the principals directives which was to refer to a child as they and not he/she and he completely disagreed with that, there was no confrontation with the child in question, you make it sound like he followed this child around screaming abuse, he had a disagreement with the principle and voices were raised, don't make it sound worse than it actually is " However he managed to scream abuse at the Principal, and at a important school event at which the BOM and other VIP's were in attendance. Not the way to make his point and to win the discussion. | |||
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"The focus is all on Enoch Burke, but at the centre of this story is a child brave enough to come to terms with their own identity, only to have a teacher refuse to accept them. This is a grown man pitting himself against a child. " This. But hey, what about a childs wellness and welfare when a zealot and his bruised ego is at play? You'd wonder just how and why Enoch became a teacher if this is more important to him.. | |||
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"His refusal to be kind to this pupil, and using a child (who is going through something very difficult) to make some kind of political religious statement, is indefensible. He's a cunt. Even if he really does believe its a sin for the child to be this way... then he can have his (outdated ridiculous) opinion to himself there is no need to be a total cunt about it. " When is the right time to stand up for your religious beliefs though? There is no right or wrong time because someone somewhere will take offence regardless, does anybody know the state of mind of the child in question maybe 'they' couldn't give a rats arse about this.. | |||
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"The focus is all on Enoch Burke, but at the centre of this story is a child brave enough to come to terms with their own identity, only to have a teacher refuse to accept them. This is a grown man pitting himself against a child. Burke had an issue with the principals directives which was to refer to a child as they and not he/she and he completely disagreed with that, there was no confrontation with the child in question, you make it sound like he followed this child around screaming abuse, he had a disagreement with the principle and voices were raised, don't make it sound worse than it actually is However he managed to scream abuse at the Principal, and at a important school event at which the BOM and other VIP's were in attendance. Not the way to make his point and to win the discussion." There was no abuse screamed though , voices were raised as sometimes happens when a disagreement occurs between adults | |||
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"His refusal to be kind to this pupil, and using a child (who is going through something very difficult) to make some kind of political religious statement, is indefensible. He's a cunt. Even if he really does believe its a sin for the child to be this way... then he can have his (outdated ridiculous) opinion to himself there is no need to be a total cunt about it. When is the right time to stand up for your religious beliefs though? There is no right or wrong time because someone somewhere will take offence regardless, does anybody know the state of mind of the child in question maybe 'they' couldn't give a rats arse about this.. " I disagree. There is a wrong time. This IS the wrong time. He can stand up in the street, or in a newspaper article, or in his church, and talk in general terms... but to stand up to a specific child in his school makes him a cunt. He can have his odious opinions and that's fine, but to choose this as his platform, with all the challenges that his religion faces? Just no. | |||
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"His refusal to be kind to this pupil, and using a child (who is going through something very difficult) to make some kind of political religious statement, is indefensible. He's a cunt. Even if he really does believe its a sin for the child to be this way... then he can have his (outdated ridiculous) opinion to himself there is no need to be a total cunt about it. " | |||
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"He's not a prick he's standing up to this woke culture we find ourself submerged in, he has Christian beliefs that have stood to people for a thousand years, should we abandon our Christian beliefs just because a boy wants to be called a girl or vice versa? You're missing the point. His religious beliefs are his own business. He is in prison for defying a Court Order and thereby placing himself in contempt of Court. Please do not refer to "our Christian beliefs" Not everyone shares those beliefs and organised religion has caused so much suffering in the world over the years. He's in prison because of his devout Christian beliefs, yes he defied a court order but in his eyes he hasnt done anything wrong the man is a hero "I wouldn't call him a hero but I do think that he is entitled to his view and belief. If someone wants to identify as transgender and be called 'they' then they have every right to this, if someone wants to identify as a plastic bottle then let them at it but why should people have to address them as such? A person who wants to address someone whatever way they seem fit has the equal right to do so. This is something that never should've got into national news but unfortunately that's the age we live in. I just hope the kid in question is ok long term. Burke and his family Court the limelight and shouldn't be given it any further. | |||
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"Nobody wants to confront childhood sexual abuse its the most taboo subject there is, most people want it hidden swept under the carpet and the Catholic Church is no different." That’s a frightening statement. | |||
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"He's not a prick he's standing up to this woke culture we find ourself submerged in, he has Christian beliefs that have stood to people for a thousand years, should we abandon our Christian beliefs just because a boy wants to be called a girl or vice versa? You're missing the point. His religious beliefs are his own business. He is in prison for defying a Court Order and thereby placing himself in contempt of Court. Please do not refer to "our Christian beliefs" Not everyone shares those beliefs and organised religion has caused so much suffering in the world over the years. He's in prison because of his devout Christian beliefs, yes he defied a court order but in his eyes he hasnt done anything wrong the man is a hero
I wouldn't call him a hero but I do think that he is entitled to his view and belief.
If someone wants to identify as transgender and be called 'they' then they have every right to this, if someone wants to identify as a plastic bottle then let them at it but why should people have to address them as such? A person who wants to address someone whatever way they seem fit has the equal right to do so.
This is something that never should've got into national news but unfortunately that's the age we live in. I just hope the kid in question is ok long term. Burke and his family Court the limelight and shouldn't be given it any further."But the issue here is that he chose to put his religious beliefs before any shred of empathy for the child's situation and that (as described already) makes him a cunt. | |||
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"But the issue here is that he chose to put his religious beliefs before any shred of empathy for the child's situation and that (as described already) makes him a cunt." Exactly, like many he seems to want to pick and choose which parts he believes in as suits his agenda…. | |||
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"There was no abuse screamed though , voices were raised as sometimes happens when a disagreement occurs between adults " Not having been there ourselves, (Unless you were yourself ) but this is from an Irish Times report of a representation from Counsel to a High Court hearing which led to the initial temporary injunction of 30/8/22.
"The school claims that last June a service and dinner was held to mark the school’s 260th anniversary. It was attended by clergy, staff, past and present pupils, parents and board members.
It is claimed that Mr Burke interrupted the service and said the school’s principal, Ms Niamh McShane, should withdraw the earlier demand regarding the transitioning of the student, that he could not agree with transgenderism, and said it went against the school’s ethos and the teaching of the Church of Ireland. The school claims that, after he spoke, members of the congregation and students walked out of the school chapel.
It is claimed that at the follow-up dinner Mr Burke did not sit at any table. After the meal he is alleged to have approached the principal, and again asked her to withdraw the request regarding the student.
The school claims that she said she would speak to Mr Burke at an appropriate time and place, and walked away from him. It is claimed that he continued to follow her and questioned her loudly. Other people stood between them to prevent the continuation of his questioning, it is further claimed."
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"The focus is all on Enoch Burke, but at the centre of this story is a child brave enough to come to terms with their own identity, only to have a teacher refuse to accept them. This is a grown man pitting himself against a child. Burke had an issue with the principals directives which was to refer to a child as they and not he/she and he completely disagreed with that, there was no confrontation with the child in question, you make it sound like he followed this child around screaming abuse, he had a disagreement with the principle and voices were raised, don't make it sound worse than it actually is " This is it in a nutshell. | |||
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"The focus is all on Enoch Burke, but at the centre of this story is a child brave enough to come to terms with their own identity, only to have a teacher refuse to accept them. This is a grown man pitting himself against a child. Burke had an issue with the principals directives which was to refer to a child as they and not he/she and he completely disagreed with that, there was no confrontation with the child in question, you make it sound like he followed this child around screaming abuse, he had a disagreement with the principle and voices were raised, don't make it sound worse than it actually is This is it in a nutshell. "I respectfully disagree
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"He's not a prick he's standing up to this woke culture we find ourself submerged in, he has Christian beliefs that have stood to people for a thousand years, should we abandon our Christian beliefs just because a boy wants to be called a girl or vice versa? You're missing the point. His religious beliefs are his own business. He is in prison for defying a Court Order and thereby placing himself in contempt of Court. Please do not refer to "our Christian beliefs" Not everyone shares those beliefs and organised religion has caused so much suffering in the world over the years. He's in prison because of his devout Christian beliefs, yes he defied a court order but in his eyes he hasnt done anything wrong the man is a hero "No he's not a hero. Because he thinks that he is right does not make it so. Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao and Pol Pot all thought that they were right. Were they? Christian beliefs caused people to be burned at the stake until comparitively recently. It took the Vatican 350 years to actually say that Gallileo was right in saying that the Earth orbited the Sun. That was a serious belief that was wrong. I could go on. | |||
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"He's not a prick he's standing up to this woke culture we find ourself submerged in, he has Christian beliefs that have stood to people for a thousand years, should we abandon our Christian beliefs just because a boy wants to be called a girl or vice versa? You're missing the point. His religious beliefs are his own business. He is in prison for defying a Court Order and thereby placing himself in contempt of Court. Please do not refer to "our Christian beliefs" Not everyone shares those beliefs and organised religion has caused so much suffering in the world over the years. He's in prison because of his devout Christian beliefs, yes he defied a court order but in his eyes he hasnt done anything wrong the man is a hero
No he's not a hero. Because he thinks that he is right does not make it so. Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao and Pol Pot all thought that they were right. Were they? Christian beliefs caused people to be burned at the stake until comparitively recently. It took the Vatican 350 years to actually say that Gallileo was right in saying that the Earth orbited the Sun. That was a serious belief that was wrong. I could go on."He's a hero for a certain type of people. People I want nothing to do with .. | |||
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"What age is the child anyone know?" Late 20s/early 30s I'd say? Not sure about the student... | |||
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"Imagine if everyone acted like he does....chaos....anarchy.... At this stage, I wonder is he a victim of his parents who are forcing into all of these actions and won't let him comply with the court orders ..." That's the whole issue here really. He has been born, raised and educated within a cult type system of evangelical Christians. It is without a doubt the fault of the parents, particularly the mother. All the siblings are totally incapable of living in Irish society. To many people talking about a man standing up for his views, thats just nonsense, it's a cult trying to spread their church. In the States, they put people like Enoch through deprogramming. | |||
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"What age is the child anyone know? Late 20s/early 30s I'd say? Not sure about the student..." | |||
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"Imagine if everyone acted like he does....chaos....anarchy.... At this stage, I wonder is he a victim of his parents who are forcing into all of these actions and won't let him comply with the court orders ... That's the whole issue here really. He has been born, raised and educated within a cult type system of evangelical Christians. It is without a doubt the fault of the parents, particularly the mother. All the siblings are totally incapable of living in Irish society. To many people talking about a man standing up for his views, thats just nonsense, it's a cult trying to spread their church. In the States, they put people like Enoch through deprogramming." They are perfectly capable of living in Irish society, the man is a teacher and from what we hear he was a damn good one at that, in my experience they are few and far between, ridiculous statement really just because you don't agree him, also in the state they put people like Enoch on a pedestal because he is a leader and not a sheep | |||
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" They are perfectly capable of living in Irish society, the man is a teacher and from what we hear he was a damn good one at that, in my experience they are few and far between, ridiculous statement really just because you don't agree him, also in the state they put people like Enoch on a pedestal because he is a leader and not a sheep "When the disciplinary hearing is completed and he is fired, he will be the third sibling to reach that achievement. Nobody will be employing them. What is most likely, as others have already said, they will go to the source of their current income, the Evangelical circuit in the US. Or worse still, try and bring it here! | |||
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"Imagine if everyone acted like he does....chaos....anarchy.... At this stage, I wonder is he a victim of his parents who are forcing into all of these actions and won't let him comply with the court orders ... That's the whole issue here really. He has been born, raised and educated within a cult type system of evangelical Christians. It is without a doubt the fault of the parents, particularly the mother. All the siblings are totally incapable of living in Irish society. To many people talking about a man standing up for his views, thats just nonsense, it's a cult trying to spread their church. In the States, they put people like Enoch through deprogramming. They are perfectly capable of living in Irish society, the man is a teacher and from what we hear he was a damn good one at that, in my experience they are few and far between, ridiculous statement really just because you don't agree him, also in the state they put people like Enoch on a pedestal because he is a leader and not a sheep "A leader? That's comical. He's a complete and utter sheep being led around by his parents. Having his Daddy drop him into school likes he's one of the pupils ffs. an embarassassment of a man. I doubt he's ever had the balls to form his own opinion on anything. Like the rest of his weak-minded sheeple siblings. | |||
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" A leader? That's comical. He's a complete and utter sheep being led around by his parents. Having his Daddy drop him into school likes he's one of the pupils ffs. an embarassassment of a man. I doubt he's ever had the balls to form his own opinion on anything. Like the rest of his weak-minded sheeple siblings. "It is absolutely comical that some people (mainly men) view him as a heron or leader. He's a drone of a man, completely led by his mother. He is not standing by his views or his beliefs. He is doing what he has been told to do his whole life. He is incapable of forming any opinion other than that fed to him. He is the epitome of a sheep! | |||
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"He's not a prick he's standing up to this woke culture we find ourself submerged in, he has Christian beliefs that have stood to people for a thousand years, should we abandon our Christian beliefs just because a boy wants to be called a girl or vice versa? You're missing the point. His religious beliefs are his own business. He is in prison for defying a Court Order and thereby placing himself in contempt of Court. Please do not refer to "our Christian beliefs" Not everyone shares those beliefs and organised religion has caused so much suffering in the world over the years. He's in prison because of his devout Christian beliefs, yes he defied a court order but in his eyes he hasnt done anything wrong the man is a hero
No he's not a hero. Because he thinks that he is right does not make it so. Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao and Pol Pot all thought that they were right. Were they? Christian beliefs caused people to be burned at the stake until comparitively recently. It took the Vatican 350 years to actually say that Gallileo was right in saying that the Earth orbited the Sun. That was a serious belief that was wrong. I could go on.
He's a hero for a certain type of people. People I want nothing to do with .."With you on that one | |||
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"In other news. The pope helped to bury the other pope. So a man gets out of jail,and goes back to his job,that his employeers are still paying him for. Who actually cares about this sort of stuff?? I dont. Nothing to see here. Just let everybody get on with their lives." You don't care but still wrote about it Just let everyone get on with their own lives.....pity he couldn't isn't it | |||
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"He's not a prick he's standing up to this woke culture we find ourself submerged in, he has Christian beliefs that have stood to people for a thousand years, should we abandon our Christian beliefs just because a boy wants to be called a girl or vice versa? " You're posting this on a swinging site if you're that into your Christian beliefs. Wave the word woke around all you like until you realise you're isolated and alone. Then feel free to step into the 21st century along with the rest of us. | |||
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"People placing more importance on the man's religious beliefs than his duty of care towards children in his job - yikes. Christian beliefs protect children period " My god man open your fucking eyes, how many thousands of children were sexually and physically abuse by the religious orders? Are you that blinded by what the teacher told you in school? Stay off the Internet lad, it's doing you no favours. | |||
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" It wasnt christian beliefs that absued kids though was it, it was evil people under the cloak of christianity carrying out those acts Absolute nonsense, if you read just one chapter of The Comission into Child Abuse report you wouldn't be making silly statements like that!
Ok, well i havent read it and im unlikely to...does it say christianity told them to do it?
It didn't need to, they, and there was hundreds of them, were the heads of christanity in this country. Who spent there time practicing and preaching to all how their life's should be lived.
Not forgetting all the hundreds of witnesses and those who turned a blind eye...You should read it, it might open yours!
All very horrible, nobody is disputing that...but did their religion tell them to do it or their own deviance?
Because that's the only point i was making
No but plenty others in said religion helped them cover it up for years, priests moved to another parish when complaints started to come so they could continue to prey on vulnerable people who trusted members of the clergy, that's not outing peadophiles that's conspiring with them to continue what they're doing
Nobody wants to confront childhood sexual abuse its the most taboo subject there is, most people want it hidden swept under the carpet and the Catholic Church is no different, thankfully we are moving forward with our attitudes and way of thinking and can deal with taboo subjects more responsibly and in an adult fashion"A taboo subject is something that the general population might find distasteful to discuss over dinner. Don't minimise child abuse by calling it taboo, it's the worst thing an adult can do to a child, fucks them up for a long time assuming they can live with it. Peter the more I read of your forum posts the more you come across as an apologist. | |||
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" It wasnt christian beliefs that absued kids though was it, it was evil people under the cloak of christianity carrying out those acts Absolute nonsense, if you read just one chapter of The Comission into Child Abuse report you wouldn't be making silly statements like that!
Ok, well i havent read it and im unlikely to...does it say christianity told them to do it?
It didn't need to, they, and there was hundreds of them, were the heads of christanity in this country. Who spent there time practicing and preaching to all how their life's should be lived.
Not forgetting all the hundreds of witnesses and those who turned a blind eye...You should read it, it might open yours!
All very horrible, nobody is disputing that...but did their religion tell them to do it or their own deviance?
Because that's the only point i was making
No but plenty others in said religion helped them cover it up for years, priests moved to another parish when complaints started to come so they could continue to prey on vulnerable people who trusted members of the clergy, that's not outing peadophiles that's conspiring with them to continue what they're doing
Nobody wants to confront childhood sexual abuse its the most taboo subject there is, most people want it hidden swept under the carpet and the Catholic Church is no different, thankfully we are moving forward with our attitudes and way of thinking and can deal with taboo subjects more responsibly and in an adult fashion
A taboo subject is something that the general population might find distasteful to discuss over dinner. Don't minimise child abuse by calling it taboo, it's the worst thing an adult can do to a child, fucks them up for a long time assuming they can live with it. Peter the more I read of your forum posts the more you come across as an apologist. "An apologist for what exactly? And think carefully about your reply because I have plenty of life experience in this subject infinitely more than you will ever have | |||
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" It wasnt christian beliefs that absued kids though was it, it was evil people under the cloak of christianity carrying out those acts Absolute nonsense, if you read just one chapter of The Comission into Child Abuse report you wouldn't be making silly statements like that!
Ok, well i havent read it and im unlikely to...does it say christianity told them to do it?
It didn't need to, they, and there was hundreds of them, were the heads of christanity in this country. Who spent there time practicing and preaching to all how their life's should be lived.
Not forgetting all the hundreds of witnesses and those who turned a blind eye...You should read it, it might open yours!
All very horrible, nobody is disputing that...but did their religion tell them to do it or their own deviance?
Because that's the only point i was making
No but plenty others in said religion helped them cover it up for years, priests moved to another parish when complaints started to come so they could continue to prey on vulnerable people who trusted members of the clergy, that's not outing peadophiles that's conspiring with them to continue what they're doing
Nobody wants to confront childhood sexual abuse its the most taboo subject there is, most people want it hidden swept under the carpet and the Catholic Church is no different, thankfully we are moving forward with our attitudes and way of thinking and can deal with taboo subjects more responsibly and in an adult fashion
A taboo subject is something that the general population might find distasteful to discuss over dinner. Don't minimise child abuse by calling it taboo, it's the worst thing an adult can do to a child, fucks them up for a long time assuming they can live with it. Peter the more I read of your forum posts the more you come across as an apologist.
An apologist for what exactly? And think carefully about your reply because I have plenty of life experience in this subject infinitely more than you will ever have "I made my point, you can read it as many times as you like if it makes it any clearer to you. | |||
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" It wasnt christian beliefs that absued kids though was it, it was evil people under the cloak of christianity carrying out those acts Absolute nonsense, if you read just one chapter of The Comission into Child Abuse report you wouldn't be making silly statements like that!
Ok, well i havent read it and im unlikely to...does it say christianity told them to do it?
It didn't need to, they, and there was hundreds of them, were the heads of christanity in this country. Who spent there time practicing and preaching to all how their life's should be lived.
Not forgetting all the hundreds of witnesses and those who turned a blind eye...You should read it, it might open yours!
All very horrible, nobody is disputing that...but did their religion tell them to do it or their own deviance?
Because that's the only point i was making
No but plenty others in said religion helped them cover it up for years, priests moved to another parish when complaints started to come so they could continue to prey on vulnerable people who trusted members of the clergy, that's not outing peadophiles that's conspiring with them to continue what they're doing
Nobody wants to confront childhood sexual abuse its the most taboo subject there is, most people want it hidden swept under the carpet and the Catholic Church is no different, thankfully we are moving forward with our attitudes and way of thinking and can deal with taboo subjects more responsibly and in an adult fashion
A taboo subject is something that the general population might find distasteful to discuss over dinner. Don't minimise child abuse by calling it taboo, it's the worst thing an adult can do to a child, fucks them up for a long time assuming they can live with it. Peter the more I read of your forum posts the more you come across as an apologist.
An apologist for what exactly? And think carefully about your reply because I have plenty of life experience in this subject infinitely more than you will ever have
I made my point, you can read it as many times as you like if it makes it any clearer to you."You don't know what you're talking about | |||
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" It wasnt christian beliefs that absued kids though was it, it was evil people under the cloak of christianity carrying out those acts Absolute nonsense, if you read just one chapter of The Comission into Child Abuse report you wouldn't be making silly statements like that!
Ok, well i havent read it and im unlikely to...does it say christianity told them to do it?
It didn't need to, they, and there was hundreds of them, were the heads of christanity in this country. Who spent there time practicing and preaching to all how their life's should be lived.
Not forgetting all the hundreds of witnesses and those who turned a blind eye...You should read it, it might open yours!
All very horrible, nobody is disputing that...but did their religion tell them to do it or their own deviance?
Because that's the only point i was making
No but plenty others in said religion helped them cover it up for years, priests moved to another parish when complaints started to come so they could continue to prey on vulnerable people who trusted members of the clergy, that's not outing peadophiles that's conspiring with them to continue what they're doing
Nobody wants to confront childhood sexual abuse its the most taboo subject there is, most people want it hidden swept under the carpet and the Catholic Church is no different, thankfully we are moving forward with our attitudes and way of thinking and can deal with taboo subjects more responsibly and in an adult fashion
A taboo subject is something that the general population might find distasteful to discuss over dinner. Don't minimise child abuse by calling it taboo, it's the worst thing an adult can do to a child, fucks them up for a long time assuming they can live with it. Peter the more I read of your forum posts the more you come across as an apologist.
An apologist for what exactly? And think carefully about your reply because I have plenty of life experience in this subject infinitely more than you will ever have
I made my point, you can read it as many times as you like if it makes it any clearer to you.
You don't know what you're talking about "You need therapy | |||
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" It wasnt christian beliefs that absued kids though was it, it was evil people under the cloak of christianity carrying out those acts Absolute nonsense, if you read just one chapter of The Comission into Child Abuse report you wouldn't be making silly statements like that!
Ok, well i havent read it and im unlikely to...does it say christianity told them to do it?
It didn't need to, they, and there was hundreds of them, were the heads of christanity in this country. Who spent there time practicing and preaching to all how their life's should be lived.
Not forgetting all the hundreds of witnesses and those who turned a blind eye...You should read it, it might open yours!
All very horrible, nobody is disputing that...but did their religion tell them to do it or their own deviance?
Because that's the only point i was making
No but plenty others in said religion helped them cover it up for years, priests moved to another parish when complaints started to come so they could continue to prey on vulnerable people who trusted members of the clergy, that's not outing peadophiles that's conspiring with them to continue what they're doing
Nobody wants to confront childhood sexual abuse its the most taboo subject there is, most people want it hidden swept under the carpet and the Catholic Church is no different, thankfully we are moving forward with our attitudes and way of thinking and can deal with taboo subjects more responsibly and in an adult fashion
A taboo subject is something that the general population might find distasteful to discuss over dinner. Don't minimise child abuse by calling it taboo, it's the worst thing an adult can do to a child, fucks them up for a long time assuming they can live with it. Peter the more I read of your forum posts the more you come across as an apologist.
An apologist for what exactly? And think carefully about your reply because I have plenty of life experience in this subject infinitely more than you will ever have
I made my point, you can read it as many times as you like if it makes it any clearer to you.
You don't know what you're talking about
You need therapy "He asked you a direct question, which was 'an apologist for what?' You seem reluctant to answer him | |||
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" It wasnt christian beliefs that absued kids though was it, it was evil people under the cloak of christianity carrying out those acts Absolute nonsense, if you read just one chapter of The Comission into Child Abuse report you wouldn't be making silly statements like that!
Ok, well i havent read it and im unlikely to...does it say christianity told them to do it?
It didn't need to, they, and there was hundreds of them, were the heads of christanity in this country. Who spent there time practicing and preaching to all how their life's should be lived.
Not forgetting all the hundreds of witnesses and those who turned a blind eye...You should read it, it might open yours!
All very horrible, nobody is disputing that...but did their religion tell them to do it or their own deviance?
Because that's the only point i was making
No but plenty others in said religion helped them cover it up for years, priests moved to another parish when complaints started to come so they could continue to prey on vulnerable people who trusted members of the clergy, that's not outing peadophiles that's conspiring with them to continue what they're doing
Nobody wants to confront childhood sexual abuse its the most taboo subject there is, most people want it hidden swept under the carpet and the Catholic Church is no different, thankfully we are moving forward with our attitudes and way of thinking and can deal with taboo subjects more responsibly and in an adult fashion
A taboo subject is something that the general population might find distasteful to discuss over dinner. Don't minimise child abuse by calling it taboo, it's the worst thing an adult can do to a child, fucks them up for a long time assuming they can live with it. Peter the more I read of your forum posts the more you come across as an apologist.
An apologist for what exactly? And think carefully about your reply because I have plenty of life experience in this subject infinitely more than you will ever have
I made my point, you can read it as many times as you like if it makes it any clearer to you.
You don't know what you're talking about
You need therapy
He asked you a direct question, which was 'an apologist for what?'
You seem reluctant to answer him"Ya bananaboy there is no answer to his question, the definition of an apologist is "a person who offers an argument in defence of something controversial." The topic is irrelevant. | |||
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" It wasnt christian beliefs that absued kids though was it, it was evil people under the cloak of christianity carrying out those acts Absolute nonsense, if you read just one chapter of The Comission into Child Abuse report you wouldn't be making silly statements like that!
Ok, well i havent read it and im unlikely to...does it say christianity told them to do it?
It didn't need to, they, and there was hundreds of them, were the heads of christanity in this country. Who spent there time practicing and preaching to all how their life's should be lived.
Not forgetting all the hundreds of witnesses and those who turned a blind eye...You should read it, it might open yours!
All very horrible, nobody is disputing that...but did their religion tell them to do it or their own deviance?
Because that's the only point i was making
No but plenty others in said religion helped them cover it up for years, priests moved to another parish when complaints started to come so they could continue to prey on vulnerable people who trusted members of the clergy, that's not outing peadophiles that's conspiring with them to continue what they're doing
Nobody wants to confront childhood sexual abuse its the most taboo subject there is, most people want it hidden swept under the carpet and the Catholic Church is no different, thankfully we are moving forward with our attitudes and way of thinking and can deal with taboo subjects more responsibly and in an adult fashion
A taboo subject is something that the general population might find distasteful to discuss over dinner. Don't minimise child abuse by calling it taboo, it's the worst thing an adult can do to a child, fucks them up for a long time assuming they can live with it. Peter the more I read of your forum posts the more you come across as an apologist.
An apologist for what exactly? And think carefully about your reply because I have plenty of life experience in this subject infinitely more than you will ever have
I made my point, you can read it as many times as you like if it makes it any clearer to you.
You don't know what you're talking about
You need therapy
He asked you a direct question, which was 'an apologist for what?'
You seem reluctant to answer him
Ya bananaboy there is no answer to his question, the definition of an apologist is "a person who offers an argument in defence of something controversial." The topic is irrelevant. "So what is the controversial thing you are accusing him of defending? | |||
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" It wasnt christian beliefs that absued kids though was it, it was evil people under the cloak of christianity carrying out those acts Absolute nonsense, if you read just one chapter of The Comission into Child Abuse report you wouldn't be making silly statements like that!
Ok, well i havent read it and im unlikely to...does it say christianity told them to do it?
It didn't need to, they, and there was hundreds of them, were the heads of christanity in this country. Who spent there time practicing and preaching to all how their life's should be lived.
Not forgetting all the hundreds of witnesses and those who turned a blind eye...You should read it, it might open yours!
All very horrible, nobody is disputing that...but did their religion tell them to do it or their own deviance?
Because that's the only point i was making
No but plenty others in said religion helped them cover it up for years, priests moved to another parish when complaints started to come so they could continue to prey on vulnerable people who trusted members of the clergy, that's not outing peadophiles that's conspiring with them to continue what they're doing
Nobody wants to confront childhood sexual abuse its the most taboo subject there is, most people want it hidden swept under the carpet and the Catholic Church is no different, thankfully we are moving forward with our attitudes and way of thinking and can deal with taboo subjects more responsibly and in an adult fashion
A taboo subject is something that the general population might find distasteful to discuss over dinner. Don't minimise child abuse by calling it taboo, it's the worst thing an adult can do to a child, fucks them up for a long time assuming they can live with it. Peter the more I read of your forum posts the more you come across as an apologist.
An apologist for what exactly? And think carefully about your reply because I have plenty of life experience in this subject infinitely more than you will ever have
I made my point, you can read it as many times as you like if it makes it any clearer to you.
You don't know what you're talking about
You need therapy
He asked you a direct question, which was 'an apologist for what?'
You seem reluctant to answer him
Ya bananaboy there is no answer to his question, the definition of an apologist is "a person who offers an argument in defence of something controversial." The topic is irrelevant.
So what is the controversial thing you are accusing him of defending? "For fuck sake lad I can't teach you to read on a forum. Enoch Burke and his extreme brand of Christianity. The kind of extremism the Westboro Baptist Church promotes. | |||
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" So what is the controversial thing you are accusing him of defending? " Could you not be arsed reading the thread or what? | |||
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" It wasnt christian beliefs that absued kids though was it, it was evil people under the cloak of christianity carrying out those acts Absolute nonsense, if you read just one chapter of The Comission into Child Abuse report you wouldn't be making silly statements like that!
Ok, well i havent read it and im unlikely to...does it say christianity told them to do it?
It didn't need to, they, and there was hundreds of them, were the heads of christanity in this country. Who spent there time practicing and preaching to all how their life's should be lived.
Not forgetting all the hundreds of witnesses and those who turned a blind eye...You should read it, it might open yours!
All very horrible, nobody is disputing that...but did their religion tell them to do it or their own deviance?
Because that's the only point i was making
No but plenty others in said religion helped them cover it up for years, priests moved to another parish when complaints started to come so they could continue to prey on vulnerable people who trusted members of the clergy, that's not outing peadophiles that's conspiring with them to continue what they're doing
Nobody wants to confront childhood sexual abuse its the most taboo subject there is, most people want it hidden swept under the carpet and the Catholic Church is no different, thankfully we are moving forward with our attitudes and way of thinking and can deal with taboo subjects more responsibly and in an adult fashion
A taboo subject is something that the general population might find distasteful to discuss over dinner. Don't minimise child abuse by calling it taboo, it's the worst thing an adult can do to a child, fucks them up for a long time assuming they can live with it. Peter the more I read of your forum posts the more you come across as an apologist.
An apologist for what exactly? And think carefully about your reply because I have plenty of life experience in this subject infinitely more than you will ever have
I made my point, you can read it as many times as you like if it makes it any clearer to you.
You don't know what you're talking about
You need therapy
He asked you a direct question, which was 'an apologist for what?'
You seem reluctant to answer him
Ya bananaboy there is no answer to his question, the definition of an apologist is "a person who offers an argument in defence of something controversial." The topic is irrelevant.
So what is the controversial thing you are accusing him of defending?
For fuck sake lad I can't teach you to read on a forum. Enoch Burke and his extreme brand of Christianity. The kind of extremism the Westboro Baptist Church promotes. "I wasnt aware enoch burke was racist, homophobic, anti semitic, anti muslim etc. beacuse he disagrees with transgerderism Are we now tarring him with all these brushes as well? | |||
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" It wasnt christian beliefs that absued kids though was it, it was evil people under the cloak of christianity carrying out those acts Absolute nonsense, if you read just one chapter of The Comission into Child Abuse report you wouldn't be making silly statements like that!
Ok, well i havent read it and im unlikely to...does it say christianity told them to do it?
It didn't need to, they, and there was hundreds of them, were the heads of christanity in this country. Who spent there time practicing and preaching to all how their life's should be lived.
Not forgetting all the hundreds of witnesses and those who turned a blind eye...You should read it, it might open yours!
All very horrible, nobody is disputing that...but did their religion tell them to do it or their own deviance?
Because that's the only point i was making
No but plenty others in said religion helped them cover it up for years, priests moved to another parish when complaints started to come so they could continue to prey on vulnerable people who trusted members of the clergy, that's not outing peadophiles that's conspiring with them to continue what they're doing
Nobody wants to confront childhood sexual abuse its the most taboo subject there is, most people want it hidden swept under the carpet and the Catholic Church is no different, thankfully we are moving forward with our attitudes and way of thinking and can deal with taboo subjects more responsibly and in an adult fashion
A taboo subject is something that the general population might find distasteful to discuss over dinner. Don't minimise child abuse by calling it taboo, it's the worst thing an adult can do to a child, fucks them up for a long time assuming they can live with it. Peter the more I read of your forum posts the more you come across as an apologist.
An apologist for what exactly? And think carefully about your reply because I have plenty of life experience in this subject infinitely more than you will ever have
I made my point, you can read it as many times as you like if it makes it any clearer to you.
You don't know what you're talking about
You need therapy
He asked you a direct question, which was 'an apologist for what?'
You seem reluctant to answer him
Ya bananaboy there is no answer to his question, the definition of an apologist is "a person who offers an argument in defence of something controversial." The topic is irrelevant.
So what is the controversial thing you are accusing him of defending?
For fuck sake lad I can't teach you to read on a forum. Enoch Burke and his extreme brand of Christianity. The kind of extremism the Westboro Baptist Church promotes.
I wasnt aware enoch burke was racist, homophobic, anti semitic, anti muslim etc. beacuse he disagrees with transgerderism
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" It wasnt christian beliefs that absued kids though was it, it was evil people under the cloak of christianity carrying out those acts Absolute nonsense, if you read just one chapter of The Comission into Child Abuse report you wouldn't be making silly statements like that!
Ok, well i havent read it and im unlikely to...does it say christianity told them to do it?
It didn't need to, they, and there was hundreds of them, were the heads of christanity in this country. Who spent there time practicing and preaching to all how their life's should be lived.
Not forgetting all the hundreds of witnesses and those who turned a blind eye...You should read it, it might open yours!
All very horrible, nobody is disputing that...but did their religion tell them to do it or their own deviance?
Because that's the only point i was making
No but plenty others in said religion helped them cover it up for years, priests moved to another parish when complaints started to come so they could continue to prey on vulnerable people who trusted members of the clergy, that's not outing peadophiles that's conspiring with them to continue what they're doing
Nobody wants to confront childhood sexual abuse its the most taboo subject there is, most people want it hidden swept under the carpet and the Catholic Church is no different, thankfully we are moving forward with our attitudes and way of thinking and can deal with taboo subjects more responsibly and in an adult fashion
A taboo subject is something that the general population might find distasteful to discuss over dinner. Don't minimise child abuse by calling it taboo, it's the worst thing an adult can do to a child, fucks them up for a long time assuming they can live with it. Peter the more I read of your forum posts the more you come across as an apologist.
An apologist for what exactly? And think carefully about your reply because I have plenty of life experience in this subject infinitely more than you will ever have
I made my point, you can read it as many times as you like if it makes it any clearer to you.
You don't know what you're talking about
You need therapy
He asked you a direct question, which was 'an apologist for what?'
You seem reluctant to answer him
Ya bananaboy there is no answer to his question, the definition of an apologist is "a person who offers an argument in defence of something controversial." The topic is irrelevant.
So what is the controversial thing you are accusing him of defending?
For fuck sake lad I can't teach you to read on a forum. Enoch Burke and his extreme brand of Christianity. The kind of extremism the Westboro Baptist Church promotes.
I wasnt aware enoch burke was racist, homophobic, anti semitic, anti muslim etc. beacuse he disagrees with transgerderism
Are we now tarring him with all these brushes as well?
I never said that either chap, you replied to the wrong post. "No i didnt Your post equated his christianity to the extremism the westboro people promote. They promote the isms i listed above. So its logical then to assume you believes he promotes those isms also | |||
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"Dont believe in transgenderism? Don't become transgender. Simples. Crying about calling a child what they want to be called because a man more than 1000 years ago hinted he didn't like it in a book? Ridiculous. " If someone told me to call a man 'she' then i wouldnt either. If i was asked by the person in question to call him she, then i probably would as a human courtesy. There is a difference between being compelled to say something and asked to say something. After that, i believe his point was that it is potentially damaging to childrens development to even have that out in the open. I tend to agree with him on that. Perhaps the way he went about it was unwise, but i find it hard to criticise his core point | |||
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" It wasnt christian beliefs that absued kids though was it, it was evil people under the cloak of christianity carrying out those acts Absolute nonsense, if you read just one chapter of The Comission into Child Abuse report you wouldn't be making silly statements like that!
Ok, well i havent read it and im unlikely to...does it say christianity told them to do it?
It didn't need to, they, and there was hundreds of them, were the heads of christanity in this country. Who spent there time practicing and preaching to all how their life's should be lived.
Not forgetting all the hundreds of witnesses and those who turned a blind eye...You should read it, it might open yours!
All very horrible, nobody is disputing that...but did their religion tell them to do it or their own deviance?
Because that's the only point i was making
No but plenty others in said religion helped them cover it up for years, priests moved to another parish when complaints started to come so they could continue to prey on vulnerable people who trusted members of the clergy, that's not outing peadophiles that's conspiring with them to continue what they're doing
Nobody wants to confront childhood sexual abuse its the most taboo subject there is, most people want it hidden swept under the carpet and the Catholic Church is no different, thankfully we are moving forward with our attitudes and way of thinking and can deal with taboo subjects more responsibly and in an adult fashion
A taboo subject is something that the general population might find distasteful to discuss over dinner. Don't minimise child abuse by calling it taboo, it's the worst thing an adult can do to a child, fucks them up for a long time assuming they can live with it. Peter the more I read of your forum posts the more you come across as an apologist.
An apologist for what exactly? And think carefully about your reply because I have plenty of life experience in this subject infinitely more than you will ever have
I made my point, you can read it as many times as you like if it makes it any clearer to you.
You don't know what you're talking about
You need therapy
He asked you a direct question, which was 'an apologist for what?'
You seem reluctant to answer him
Ya bananaboy there is no answer to his question, the definition of an apologist is "a person who offers an argument in defence of something controversial." The topic is irrelevant.
So what is the controversial thing you are accusing him of defending?
For fuck sake lad I can't teach you to read on a forum. Enoch Burke and his extreme brand of Christianity. The kind of extremism the Westboro Baptist Church promotes.
I wasnt aware enoch burke was racist, homophobic, anti semitic, anti muslim etc. beacuse he disagrees with transgerderism
Are we now tarring him with all these brushes as well?
I never said that either chap, you replied to the wrong post.
No i didnt
Your post equated his christianity to the extremism the westboro people promote. They promote the isms i listed above. So its logical then to assume you believes he promotes those isms also"I didn't write that, you made that statement. I actually feel bad for Peter mcshite now, he doesn't deserve to be called a racist or a homophobe based on this thread. You're a real piece of shit bananaflange. | |||
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"Cant wait for the day when some twisted fooked up kid wants to be called duster,or desk,because they identify with those things in class. Here,Dacia,3 hours detention for you,after class " By the time that happens you'll also have people marrying their dogs | |||
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"Cant wait for the day when some twisted fooked up kid wants to be called duster,or desk,because they identify with those things in class. Here,Dacia,3 hours detention for you,after class By the time that happens you'll also have people marrying their dogs " And people being fucked by them too. That lady over the west,several years ago,who died from a dog getting up on her. Some sick twisted folk out there. | |||
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" It wasnt christian beliefs that absued kids though was it, it was evil people under the cloak of christianity carrying out those acts Absolute nonsense, if you read just one chapter of The Comission into Child Abuse report you wouldn't be making silly statements like that!
Ok, well i havent read it and im unlikely to...does it say christianity told them to do it?
It didn't need to, they, and there was hundreds of them, were the heads of christanity in this country. Who spent there time practicing and preaching to all how their life's should be lived.
Not forgetting all the hundreds of witnesses and those who turned a blind eye...You should read it, it might open yours!
All very horrible, nobody is disputing that...but did their religion tell them to do it or their own deviance?
Because that's the only point i was making
No but plenty others in said religion helped them cover it up for years, priests moved to another parish when complaints started to come so they could continue to prey on vulnerable people who trusted members of the clergy, that's not outing peadophiles that's conspiring with them to continue what they're doing
Nobody wants to confront childhood sexual abuse its the most taboo subject there is, most people want it hidden swept under the carpet and the Catholic Church is no different, thankfully we are moving forward with our attitudes and way of thinking and can deal with taboo subjects more responsibly and in an adult fashion
A taboo subject is something that the general population might find distasteful to discuss over dinner. Don't minimise child abuse by calling it taboo, it's the worst thing an adult can do to a child, fucks them up for a long time assuming they can live with it. Peter the more I read of your forum posts the more you come across as an apologist.
An apologist for what exactly? And think carefully about your reply because I have plenty of life experience in this subject infinitely more than you will ever have
I made my point, you can read it as many times as you like if it makes it any clearer to you.
You don't know what you're talking about
You need therapy
He asked you a direct question, which was 'an apologist for what?'
You seem reluctant to answer him
Ya bananaboy there is no answer to his question, the definition of an apologist is "a person who offers an argument in defence of something controversial." The topic is irrelevant.
So what is the controversial thing you are accusing him of defending?
For fuck sake lad I can't teach you to read on a forum. Enoch Burke and his extreme brand of Christianity. The kind of extremism the Westboro Baptist Church promotes.
I wasnt aware enoch burke was racist, homophobic, anti semitic, anti muslim etc. beacuse he disagrees with transgerderism
Are we now tarring him with all these brushes as well?
I never said that either chap, you replied to the wrong post.
No i didnt
Your post equated his christianity to the extremism the westboro people promote. They promote the isms i listed above. So its logical then to assume you believes he promotes those isms also
I didn't write that, you made that statement. I actually feel bad for Peter mcshite now, he doesn't deserve to be called a racist or a homophobe based on this thread. You're a real piece of shit bananaflange. "Beyond this last reply, ill engage with you no more as you're an abusive person. Your comment above stated: 'For fuck sake lad I can't teach you to read on a forum. Enoch Burke and his extreme brand of Christianity. The kind of extremism the Westboro Baptist Church promotes.' You referenced the westboro people, equating their beliefs to that of burke. I questioned that. Good evening to you | |||
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"Cant wait for the day when some twisted fooked up kid wants to be called duster,or desk,because they identify with those things in class. Here,Dacia,3 hours detention for you,after class By the time that happens you'll also have people marrying their dogs " And he's back. Are you and bananaman the same account? | |||
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"Cant wait for the day when some twisted fooked up kid wants to be called duster,or desk,because they identify with those things in class. Here,Dacia,3 hours detention for you,after class By the time that happens you'll also have people marrying their dogs And people being fucked by them too. That lady over the west,several years ago,who died from a dog getting up on her. Some sick twisted folk out there." What in the name of jaysus are yous two blabbing on about, have yous been out on the piss? Talking about going off on a tangent... | |||
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" It wasnt christian beliefs that absued kids though was it, it was evil people under the cloak of christianity carrying out those acts Absolute nonsense, if you read just one chapter of The Comission into Child Abuse report you wouldn't be making silly statements like that!
Ok, well i havent read it and im unlikely to...does it say christianity told them to do it?
It didn't need to, they, and there was hundreds of them, were the heads of christanity in this country. Who spent there time practicing and preaching to all how their life's should be lived.
Not forgetting all the hundreds of witnesses and those who turned a blind eye...You should read it, it might open yours!
All very horrible, nobody is disputing that...but did their religion tell them to do it or their own deviance?
Because that's the only point i was making
No but plenty others in said religion helped them cover it up for years, priests moved to another parish when complaints started to come so they could continue to prey on vulnerable people who trusted members of the clergy, that's not outing peadophiles that's conspiring with them to continue what they're doing
Nobody wants to confront childhood sexual abuse its the most taboo subject there is, most people want it hidden swept under the carpet and the Catholic Church is no different, thankfully we are moving forward with our attitudes and way of thinking and can deal with taboo subjects more responsibly and in an adult fashion
A taboo subject is something that the general population might find distasteful to discuss over dinner. Don't minimise child abuse by calling it taboo, it's the worst thing an adult can do to a child, fucks them up for a long time assuming they can live with it. Peter the more I read of your forum posts the more you come across as an apologist.
An apologist for what exactly? And think carefully about your reply because I have plenty of life experience in this subject infinitely more than you will ever have
I made my point, you can read it as many times as you like if it makes it any clearer to you.
You don't know what you're talking about
You need therapy
He asked you a direct question, which was 'an apologist for what?'
You seem reluctant to answer him
Ya bananaboy there is no answer to his question, the definition of an apologist is "a person who offers an argument in defence of something controversial." The topic is irrelevant.
So what is the controversial thing you are accusing him of defending?
For fuck sake lad I can't teach you to read on a forum. Enoch Burke and his extreme brand of Christianity. The kind of extremism the Westboro Baptist Church promotes.
I wasnt aware enoch burke was racist, homophobic, anti semitic, anti muslim etc. beacuse he disagrees with transgerderism
Are we now tarring him with all these brushes as well?
I never said that either chap, you replied to the wrong post.
No i didnt
Your post equated his christianity to the extremism the westboro people promote. They promote the isms i listed above. So its logical then to assume you believes he promotes those isms also
I didn't write that, you made that statement. I actually feel bad for Peter mcshite now, he doesn't deserve to be called a racist or a homophobe based on this thread. You're a real piece of shit bananaflange.
Beyond this last reply, ill engage with you no more as you're an abusive person.
Your comment above stated:
'For fuck sake lad I can't teach you to read on a forum. Enoch Burke and his extreme brand of Christianity. The kind of extremism the Westboro Baptist Church promotes.'
You referenced the westboro people, equating their beliefs to that of burke. I questioned that.
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"Cant wait for the day when some twisted fooked up kid wants to be called duster,or desk,because they identify with those things in class. Here,Dacia,3 hours detention for you,after class By the time that happens you'll also have people marrying their dogs And people being fucked by them too. That lady over the west,several years ago,who died from a dog getting up on her. Some sick twisted folk out there. What in the name of jaysus are yous two blabbing on about, have yous been out on the piss? Talking about going off on a tangent..." No just making a point that where will this all end, we have children who identify as gender neutral what next, it seems every few years we have a new fad and everybody gets behind it and forces it down our throats and if you speak out about you are the one in the wrong | |||
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"Good evening to you" Anyone else imagining bananaman slapping that dude with a leather glove, correcting his moustache, and walking swiftly away with his cloak flapping behind him | |||
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"He's not referring to me as a racist or a homophobe.. If anything you were insinuating I was an apologist for child sex abuse which couldn't be more wrong " Put bananaman back on, he was better craic. | |||
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"Good evening to you Anyone else imagining bananaman slapping that dude with a leather glove, correcting his moustache, and walking swiftly away with his cloak flapping behind him "Pistols at dawn | |||
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"He's not referring to me as a racist or a homophobe.. If anything you were insinuating I was an apologist for child sex abuse which couldn't be more wrong Put bananaman back on, he was better craic. " Put that away you're turning my stomach here  | |||
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