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What does 'professional' mean?
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See it all the time on here, still can't figure it out...
Is this an Irish thing?
Or a Fab-specific thing to say, "I have a career I care about and I need to be discreet"?
Does it just mean "employed"?  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Means you get paid to do a job  but looks great on a profile, even better when you can spell discreet correctly too "
In fairness, I looked it up and learned the difference. Cheers |
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"Used by those who have a superiority complex 
Usually followed by some garbage about Sydney University  "
I'm confused. Professionals in a superior complex are followed around by an amateur Aussie binman?  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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A paid qualified employee/self employed person who's, friendly, polite, presentable, punctual, honest, reliable hygienic, respectful etc etc etc. Why people feel the need to put it down here i don't know but people obviously want to so again everyone to their own description of themselves. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"How else are they going to let you know they think they're better than you? "
I don't know though to be honest i have a good friend here who has professional wrote on his profile and he's one of the most modest guys on here. |
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It used to be on adds for house shares and bedsits years ago, "room to rent professionals only".
It was once explained to me that professionals work for an annual salary, non professionals, ie trades etc work for an hourly rate. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I think there should be so many words should not be used on a swing site .. professional attractive princess discrete "
Why not though if that's how one feels or sees themselves where's the harm in it really? It wouldn't bother me in the slightest. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I think there should be so many words should not be used on a swing site .. professional attractive princess discrete
Why not though if that's how one feels or sees themselves where's the harm in it really? It wouldn't bother me in the slightest. "
It doesn't bother me either.. but knowbody likes a dick ... just be yourself |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I think there should be so many words should not be used on a swing site .. professional attractive princess discrete
Why not though if that's how one feels or sees themselves where's the harm in it really? It wouldn't bother me in the slightest.
It doesn't bother me either.. but knowbody likes a dick ... just be yourself "
But that is them being themselves it's how they are i think anyway I wouldn't judge anyone over saying that on their profile. I wouldn't see them as a dick at all actually. |
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"A paid qualified employee/self employed person who's, friendly, polite, presentable, punctual, honest, reliable hygienic, respectful etc etc etc. Why people feel the need to put it down here i don't know but people obviously want to so again everyone to their own description of themselves. "
As always - the voice of reason...
OP, I presume those who describe themselves as such on Fab are referring to a certain code of conduct as explained perfectly by Coolcat... whether they actually do conduct themselves in said manner on Forums, through chat, at socials, parties and meets, well now, that's a different story. There's plenty of talk about those who seem to like stirring the pot a little - or a LOT |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Professional means they are whores
Lol well there's that profession here aswell of course you are 100% correct on that. Ha ha "
It's the only "profession" that has any relevance here |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Professional means they are whores
Lol well there's that profession here aswell of course you are 100% correct on that. Ha ha
It's the only "profession" that has any relevance here"
voice of reason as always |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Professional means they are whores
Lol well there's that profession here aswell of course you are 100% correct on that. Ha ha
Seems a bit harsh lol"
I agree he could have put it politely the sex workers industry might if been better lol. |
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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago
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The term professional, nowadays, is so nebulous that it means all things to all men (and women); decades ago it would have implied that the user is educated, has some form of accredited expertise and behaves ethically.
This is no longer the case
It is now a term that has ceased to carry any weight as a very high percentage of people are educated, specialisation in jobs is now the norm and most people can claim to have expertise, and ethical behaviour is a distant memory since Ireland, like everywhere else, is a dog eat dog society, where each individual is out for themselves rather than selflessly acting in the common interest for the betterment of our society.
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I see it as a way of saying work takes priority, don't expect meets during work hours, not interested or able to entertain distractions during work hours (sexting), not interested in getting the run around, needs firm commitments and is organised enough to show up on time.
Maybe a fan of talking in acronyms, so uses a single word to describe all of the above |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The term professional, nowadays, is so nebulous that it means all things to all men (and women); decades ago it would have implied that the user is educated, has some form of accredited expertise and behaves ethically.
This is no longer the case
It is now a term that has ceased to carry any weight as a very high percentage of people are educated, specialisation in jobs is now the norm and most people can claim to have expertise, and ethical behaviour is a distant memory since Ireland, like everywhere else, is a dog eat dog society, where each individual is out for themselves rather than selflessly acting in the common interest for the betterment of our society.
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Impeccably articulated! |
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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago
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"The term professional, nowadays, is so nebulous that it means all things to all men (and women); decades ago it would have implied that the user is educated, has some form of accredited expertise and behaves ethically.
This is no longer the case
It is now a term that has ceased to carry any weight as a very high percentage of people are educated, specialisation in jobs is now the norm and most people can claim to have expertise, and ethical behaviour is a distant memory since Ireland, like everywhere else, is a dog eat dog society, where each individual is out for themselves rather than selflessly acting in the common interest for the betterment of our society.
Impeccably articulated! "
Thanks for the compliment.
For several years I attempted to become a professional writer, but it simply didn't pay. I like to think I can still articulate most subjects fairly succinctly; I have that expertise! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The term professional, nowadays, is so nebulous that it means all things to all men (and women); decades ago it would have implied that the user is educated, has some form of accredited expertise and behaves ethically.
This is no longer the case
It is now a term that has ceased to carry any weight as a very high percentage of people are educated, specialisation in jobs is now the norm and most people can claim to have expertise, and ethical behaviour is a distant memory since Ireland, like everywhere else, is a dog eat dog society, where each individual is out for themselves rather than selflessly acting in the common interest for the betterment of our society.
Impeccably articulated!
Thanks for the compliment.
For several years I attempted to become a professional writer, but it simply didn't pay. I like to think I can still articulate most subjects fairly succinctly; I have that expertise!"
You most certainly do i appreciate reading your posts. |
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Professional from a man means absolutely jack shit when they can’t spell or correctly use punctuation.
I have zero issue with people who struggle with words and spelling, but don’t say you are a professional when you don’t get the basics.
And text speak. OH GAWD.
Please.
Don’t. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Professional from a man means absolutely jack shit when they can’t spell or correctly use punctuation.
I have zero issue with people who struggle with words and spelling, but don’t say you are a professional when you don’t get the basics.
And text speak. OH GAWD.
Please.
Don’t. "
Wouldn't that be the same for any sex though not just a man?
Oh and that text speak is that the FYI,TBH etc is that what it's called? If that's what you meant I totally don't get it at all and have to ask people what it means. What I found with it though is it's so easy to slip into the bad habit of it, I have to catch myself and correct it in my mind not to fall into the trap of laziness of it. |
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In complete honesty, i fear i don't understand the true meaning of any words anymore!
Am i allowed to say this? Am I allowed to say that? Did I understand that correctly in the way it was meant? Is this persons understanding of vocabulary the same as my own? With an age gap am I sure the meaning of the word was exactly the same when they learned it compared to when I did?
At the end of the day language is very ambiguous and is completely different depending on dialects, regions, foreign languages and sometime even just geography...
It's a higher trait in evolution that only humans have truly mastered (or so we think) and something society and our brains have built to be the be all and end all..
But what can be said is writing is the most ambiguous form of language as we can only use one of our sense to unriddle it..
When we meet however, like everyone does before a meet, its because thats our animalistic instinct.
The riddle that is the other person and their language becomes less of a riddle as we can use more of our senses to examine the true meaning of the words being said-
Sight= Body language
Hearing= Tone of voice
Smell= Natural pheromones (Giving subconcious information)
Touch= Minute connections of bodies which tell a story of their own (A kiss, a ladies hand reaching out over the table onto yours as you share a drink, A mans slight caress of your back as he holds a door for you showing both respect and a since of protection/affection)
Taste- Well, if you need that one explained...  lol
Point being communication is not solely language... language/vocabulary is only a percentage of communication and if you focus only on that.. your mind can make it mean whatever it wants..
In my case, my meets understand what i mean by "professional" because they have communicated with me.. as for the rest, ye can guess away until the cows come home, you'll never be 100% sure until you communicate.
Assumption is a first cousin of Ego my friends
Just my grasp on it. 
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By *1CorkCouple
over a year ago
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We are professionals… and our use of the term in the fab context is intended to communicate that we are protective of our professional reputations when it comes to our openness, or lack thereof, about swinging. The word was part of the fab parlance before we joined and we appreciate its brevity and contextual understanding. If you wish to read anything else into our use of the word that’s your prerogative.
We are both discreet and discrete. We find it fun to have a little play on words considering the activity of swinging involves us having some separate fun while communicating our desire for discretion (as professionals you know!). We enjoy using the word even more knowing it irks the fab intelligentsia.
We’re not so persnickety to rule anyone out based on terminology… the message is more important to us. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It's just a word people use to describe the work they do.
It can mean different things to different people.
I don't get why others find it so degrading tbh |
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I think it used to be that people who worked in trades where they might have done on the job learning or apprenticeships were considered non-professional jobs. It's not clear cut these days for example sparks need professional certification, and there are many tools and techniques that need certification. These days many trades are earning great money (better than office work in many cases) so its really not a question of earning ability. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think it used to be that people who worked in trades where they might have done on the job learning or apprenticeships were considered non-professional jobs. It's not clear cut these days for example sparks need professional certification, and there are many tools and techniques that need certification. These days many trades are earning great money (better than office work in many cases) so its really not a question of earning ability. "
Yeah it's not just a case of people in suits and in a office there's so many different professional industries out there. |
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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago
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Many people nowadays like to try to convey an image that they are incapable of upholding for any length time; essentially they are disingenuous/fraudulent.
They have been sucked into the celebrity culture that is principally image upfront without any underlying substance.
To use a computer acronym, what real swingers want is WYSIWYG: what you see is what you get.
People can describe themselves as discreet professional, executives, etc.
Swinging comes down to this: are you a genuine individual or couple who have attractive, honest intelligent personalities, who try to look after yourselves, want to play safely and can keep a secret?
Florid descriptions in profiles are easily exposed at the first face to face meeting, to check out the lie of the land. |
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I've always assumed it means they consider their professions more important than other.
None the less we both find it a turn off as its seems such a snobby or entitled statement.
(Mr is a "professional" but we both come from working class backgrounds) |
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"I've always assumed it means they consider their professions more important than other.
None the less we both find it a turn off as its seems such a snobby or entitled statement.
(Mr is a "professional" but we both come from working class backgrounds)"
What do you mean Mr is a professional |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It was devised out of snobbery by a select few to give the impression they were above the common man. A professional had a calling or almost a vocation as opposed to working purely for money as tradesmen did.
A professional would have answered the Op's question in the past by saying if you have to ask then you would not understand the answer.
It was also used to get cheap or even free labour out of aspiring "professionals" by for example, not only not paying trainee solicitors, but actually charging them thousands to work for nothing. Junior doctors are still treated like this with the hours they have to put in.
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"I've always assumed it means they consider their professions more important than other.
None the less we both find it a turn off as its seems such a snobby or entitled statement.
(Mr is a "professional" but we both come from working class backgrounds)
What do you mean Mr is a professional "
Member of a professional body |
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