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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Yeah i do often wonder myself and at st Patrick Day Parade, i was very surprised in the drop in the number taking part, obviously i would think if they are not paid to then that's a good reason not to. I remember there being a big enough number at it a few years ago. |
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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago
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"Great they might be drafted in to ease the chaos. Makes you think what does the Irish army do here on a daily basis ?"
Aside from ongoing foreign assignments to Chad, Lebanon and other UN peace-keeping missions, the majority of time is probably spent training, especially at the camp in the Wicklow mountains near their live-firing range in the Glen of Imaal.
Even during wartime, only a relatively small % of any army is engaged in face to face combat. The remainder are in logistical and support roles.
Even today, the guarding of cash in transit in support of the Gardai is still important. |
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"Great they might be drafted in to ease the chaos. Makes you think what does the Irish army do here on a daily basis ?
Aside from ongoing foreign assignments to Chad, Lebanon and other UN peace-keeping missions, the majority of time is probably spent training, especially at the camp in the Wicklow mountains near their live-firing range in the Glen of Imaal.
Even during wartime, only a relatively small % of any army is engaged in face to face combat. The remainder are in logistical and support roles.
Even today, the guarding of cash in transit in support of the Gardai is still important."
As well as guarding military camp such as the curragh. Large amounts of guns and ammo unfortunately don't guard themselves. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Great they might be drafted in to ease the chaos. Makes you think what does the Irish army do here on a daily basis ?
Aside from ongoing foreign assignments to Chad, Lebanon and other UN peace-keeping missions, the majority of time is probably spent training, especially at the camp in the Wicklow mountains near their live-firing range in the Glen of Imaal.
Even during wartime, only a relatively small % of any army is engaged in face to face combat. The remainder are in logistical and support roles.
Even today, the guarding of cash in transit in support of the Gardai is still important."
Eh cash in transit has been axed since 2014.
Army do a stint of six months abroad and only a small percentage of the army are abroad or in training at any one time.
They go to the Glen once or twice a year for live operations , they have no need to be firing live ammunition constantly. Imagine the cost of that  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Great they might be drafted in to ease the chaos. Makes you think what does the Irish army do here on a daily basis ?
Aside from ongoing foreign assignments to Chad, Lebanon and other UN peace-keeping missions, the majority of time is probably spent training, especially at the camp in the Wicklow mountains near their live-firing range in the Glen of Imaal.
Even during wartime, only a relatively small % of any army is engaged in face to face combat. The remainder are in logistical and support roles.
Even today, the guarding of cash in transit in support of the Gardai is still important.
As well as guarding military camp such as the curragh. Large amounts of guns and ammo unfortunately don't guard themselves. "
Who will rob the ammo ? It’s easier for drug dealers etc just buy them  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Great they might be drafted in to ease the chaos. Makes you think what does the Irish army do here on a daily basis ?
Aside from ongoing foreign assignments to Chad, Lebanon and other UN peace-keeping missions, the majority of time is probably spent training, especially at the camp in the Wicklow mountains near their live-firing range in the Glen of Imaal.
Even during wartime, only a relatively small % of any army is engaged in face to face combat. The remainder are in logistical and support roles.
Even today, the guarding of cash in transit in support of the Gardai is still important.
As well as guarding military camp such as the curragh. Large amounts of guns and ammo unfortunately don't guard themselves.
Who will rob the ammo ? It’s easier for drug dealers etc just buy them "
Why pay when you can steal them? |
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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago
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"Great they might be drafted in to ease the chaos. Makes you think what does the Irish army do here on a daily basis ?
Aside from ongoing foreign assignments to Chad, Lebanon and other UN peace-keeping missions, the majority of time is probably spent training, especially at the camp in the Wicklow mountains near their live-firing range in the Glen of Imaal.
Even during wartime, only a relatively small % of any army is engaged in face to face combat. The remainder are in logistical and support roles.
Even today, the guarding of cash in transit in support of the Gardai is still important.
As well as guarding military camp such as the curragh. Large amounts of guns and ammo unfortunately don't guard themselves. "
I would wager that at any one time there are no more than fifty military personnel guarding the armouries of Oglaigh na hEireann on the whole island. Hardened bunkers with sophisticated devices to monitor any incursions or suspicious activity reduces boots needed on the ground.
As a side note: Irish defence forces are underpaid and understaffed as a direct result; they would be unable to repel an invasion, not that one is expected.
But then Ukraine happened! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Great they might be drafted in to ease the chaos. Makes you think what does the Irish army do here on a daily basis ?
Aside from ongoing foreign assignments to Chad, Lebanon and other UN peace-keeping missions, the majority of time is probably spent training, especially at the camp in the Wicklow mountains near their live-firing range in the Glen of Imaal.
Even during wartime, only a relatively small % of any army is engaged in face to face combat. The remainder are in logistical and support roles.
Even today, the guarding of cash in transit in support of the Gardai is still important.
As well as guarding military camp such as the curragh. Large amounts of guns and ammo unfortunately don't guard themselves.
Who will rob the ammo ? It’s easier for drug dealers etc just buy them
Why pay when you can steal them?"
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Great they might be drafted in to ease the chaos. Makes you think what does the Irish army do here on a daily basis ?
Aside from ongoing foreign assignments to Chad, Lebanon and other UN peace-keeping missions, the majority of time is probably spent training, especially at the camp in the Wicklow mountains near their live-firing range in the Glen of Imaal.
Even during wartime, only a relatively small % of any army is engaged in face to face combat. The remainder are in logistical and support roles.
Even today, the guarding of cash in transit in support of the Gardai is still important.
As well as guarding military camp such as the curragh. Large amounts of guns and ammo unfortunately don't guard themselves.
I would wager that at any one time there are no more than fifty military personnel guarding the armouries of Oglaigh na hEireann on the whole island. Hardened bunkers with sophisticated devices to monitor any incursions or suspicious activity reduces boots needed on the ground.
As a side note: Irish defence forces are underpaid and understaffed as a direct result; they would be unable to repel an invasion, not that one is expected.
But then Ukraine happened!"
Triple that number for guard duty and stand to as well. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Great they might be drafted in to ease the chaos. Makes you think what does the Irish army do here on a daily basis ?
Aside from ongoing foreign assignments to Chad, Lebanon and other UN peace-keeping missions, the majority of time is probably spent training, especially at the camp in the Wicklow mountains near their live-firing range in the Glen of Imaal.
Even during wartime, only a relatively small % of any army is engaged in face to face combat. The remainder are in logistical and support roles.
Even today, the guarding of cash in transit in support of the Gardai is still important.
As well as guarding military camp such as the curragh. Large amounts of guns and ammo unfortunately don't guard themselves.
I would wager that at any one time there are no more than fifty military personnel guarding the armouries of Oglaigh na hEireann on the whole island. Hardened bunkers with sophisticated devices to monitor any incursions or suspicious activity reduces boots needed on the ground.
As a side note: Irish defence forces are underpaid and understaffed as a direct result; they would be unable to repel an invasion, not that one is expected.
But then Ukraine happened!"
They do Fook all on a daily basis. Had mates in the army and they would easily admit it |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Great they might be drafted in to ease the chaos. Makes you think what does the Irish army do here on a daily basis ?
Aside from ongoing foreign assignments to Chad, Lebanon and other UN peace-keeping missions, the majority of time is probably spent training, especially at the camp in the Wicklow mountains near their live-firing range in the Glen of Imaal.
Even during wartime, only a relatively small % of any army is engaged in face to face combat. The remainder are in logistical and support roles.
Even today, the guarding of cash in transit in support of the Gardai is still important.
As well as guarding military camp such as the curragh. Large amounts of guns and ammo unfortunately don't guard themselves.
I would wager that at any one time there are no more than fifty military personnel guarding the armouries of Oglaigh na hEireann on the whole island. Hardened bunkers with sophisticated devices to monitor any incursions or suspicious activity reduces boots needed on the ground.
As a side note: Irish defence forces are underpaid and understaffed as a direct result; they would be unable to repel an invasion, not that one is expected.
But then Ukraine happened!
They do Fook all on a daily basis. Had mates in the army and they would easily admit it"
Must tell half my family they did fuck all during their service periods but what would they or I know about it. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Great they might be drafted in to ease the chaos. Makes you think what does the Irish army do here on a daily basis ?
Aside from ongoing foreign assignments to Chad, Lebanon and other UN peace-keeping missions, the majority of time is probably spent training, especially at the camp in the Wicklow mountains near their live-firing range in the Glen of Imaal.
Even during wartime, only a relatively small % of any army is engaged in face to face combat. The remainder are in logistical and support roles.
Even today, the guarding of cash in transit in support of the Gardai is still important.
As well as guarding military camp such as the curragh. Large amounts of guns and ammo unfortunately don't guard themselves.
I would wager that at any one time there are no more than fifty military personnel guarding the armouries of Oglaigh na hEireann on the whole island. Hardened bunkers with sophisticated devices to monitor any incursions or suspicious activity reduces boots needed on the ground.
As a side note: Irish defence forces are underpaid and understaffed as a direct result; they would be unable to repel an invasion, not that one is expected.
But then Ukraine happened!
They do Fook all on a daily basis. Had mates in the army and they would easily admit it
Must tell half my family they did fuck all during their service periods but what would they or I know about it. "
What did they do every day ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Great they might be drafted in to ease the chaos. Makes you think what does the Irish army do here on a daily basis ?
Aside from ongoing foreign assignments to Chad, Lebanon and other UN peace-keeping missions, the majority of time is probably spent training, especially at the camp in the Wicklow mountains near their live-firing range in the Glen of Imaal.
Even during wartime, only a relatively small % of any army is engaged in face to face combat. The remainder are in logistical and support roles.
Even today, the guarding of cash in transit in support of the Gardai is still important.
As well as guarding military camp such as the curragh. Large amounts of guns and ammo unfortunately don't guard themselves.
I would wager that at any one time there are no more than fifty military personnel guarding the armouries of Oglaigh na hEireann on the whole island. Hardened bunkers with sophisticated devices to monitor any incursions or suspicious activity reduces boots needed on the ground.
As a side note: Irish defence forces are underpaid and understaffed as a direct result; they would be unable to repel an invasion, not that one is expected.
But then Ukraine happened!
They do Fook all on a daily basis. Had mates in the army and they would easily admit it
Must tell half my family they did fuck all during their service periods but what would they or I know about it.
What did they do every day ? "
Guard duty, exercises, six tours of peace keeping between immediate family members, cash escort while that was still a thing, range warden up in the Glen of immal, cross training with other members of the services, courses (learning new equipment and vechiles) riot training, prison guard training (in case the prison guards striked) flood and disaster aid (flooding etc) also bear in mind that the camps and barracks aren't subject to the jurisdiction of the gardai so anything that happens illegally is subject to the military police. A lot of them kept busy with various shit. That just off the top of my head. Obviously your "mates" were useless and hence didn't get to do anything because they weren't any good so did nothing. |
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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago
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If DAA request military assistance for security duties, I suspect the upper echelons of the Irish army will be happy to deploy personnel as it will be an opportunity to broaden their personnel's repertoire of skills, in another peacekeeping role. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Great they might be drafted in to ease the chaos. Makes you think what does the Irish army do here on a daily basis ?
Aside from ongoing foreign assignments to Chad, Lebanon and other UN peace-keeping missions, the majority of time is probably spent training, especially at the camp in the Wicklow mountains near their live-firing range in the Glen of Imaal.
Even during wartime, only a relatively small % of any army is engaged in face to face combat. The remainder are in logistical and support roles.
Even today, the guarding of cash in transit in support of the Gardai is still important.
As well as guarding military camp such as the curragh. Large amounts of guns and ammo unfortunately don't guard themselves.
I would wager that at any one time there are no more than fifty military personnel guarding the armouries of Oglaigh na hEireann on the whole island. Hardened bunkers with sophisticated devices to monitor any incursions or suspicious activity reduces boots needed on the ground.
As a side note: Irish defence forces are underpaid and understaffed as a direct result; they would be unable to repel an invasion, not that one is expected.
But then Ukraine happened!
They do Fook all on a daily basis. Had mates in the army and they would easily admit it
Must tell half my family they did fuck all during their service periods but what would they or I know about it.
What did they do every day ?
Guard duty, exercises, six tours of peace keeping between immediate family members, cash escort while that was still a thing, range warden up in the Glen of immal, cross training with other members of the services, courses (learning new equipment and vechiles) riot training, prison guard training (in case the prison guards striked) flood and disaster aid (flooding etc) also bear in mind that the camps and barracks aren't subject to the jurisdiction of the gardai so anything that happens illegally is subject to the military police. A lot of them kept busy with various shit. That just off the top of my head. Obviously your "mates" were useless and hence didn't get to do anything because they weren't any good so did nothing. "
So six six mont tours to holiday camps like the leb and then get a month of when they come back. While being paid UN wages and Irish wages at the same time. It’s a contract stipulation that two foreign tours in your first few years in the army.
My mates did the portloais prison rotation… six weeks and they were done.
All you have listed may have happened for a number of weeks every year. But day in day out once soldiers go on parade they might clean a toilet and that’s them for the day.
If the army went on strike would anyone notice? |
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They played a very big role during covid also and I think still do. They are involved in alot of things that the normal civi does not know about also. While upto 600 serve over seas another 600 are in training to take over for the next 6 months etc |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Great they might be drafted in to ease the chaos. Makes you think what does the Irish army do here on a daily basis ?
Aside from ongoing foreign assignments to Chad, Lebanon and other UN peace-keeping missions, the majority of time is probably spent training, especially at the camp in the Wicklow mountains near their live-firing range in the Glen of Imaal.
Even during wartime, only a relatively small % of any army is engaged in face to face combat. The remainder are in logistical and support roles.
Even today, the guarding of cash in transit in support of the Gardai is still important.
As well as guarding military camp such as the curragh. Large amounts of guns and ammo unfortunately don't guard themselves.
I would wager that at any one time there are no more than fifty military personnel guarding the armouries of Oglaigh na hEireann on the whole island. Hardened bunkers with sophisticated devices to monitor any incursions or suspicious activity reduces boots needed on the ground.
As a side note: Irish defence forces are underpaid and understaffed as a direct result; they would be unable to repel an invasion, not that one is expected.
But then Ukraine happened!
They do Fook all on a daily basis. Had mates in the army and they would easily admit it
Must tell half my family they did fuck all during their service periods but what would they or I know about it.
What did they do every day ?
Guard duty, exercises, six tours of peace keeping between immediate family members, cash escort while that was still a thing, range warden up in the Glen of immal, cross training with other members of the services, courses (learning new equipment and vechiles) riot training, prison guard training (in case the prison guards striked) flood and disaster aid (flooding etc) also bear in mind that the camps and barracks aren't subject to the jurisdiction of the gardai so anything that happens illegally is subject to the military police. A lot of them kept busy with various shit. That just off the top of my head. Obviously your "mates" were useless and hence didn't get to do anything because they weren't any good so did nothing.
So six six mont tours to holiday camps like the leb and then get a month of when they come back. While being paid UN wages and Irish wages at the same time. It’s a contract stipulation that two foreign tours in your first few years in the army.
My mates did the portloais prison rotation… six weeks and they were done.
All you have listed may have happened for a number of weeks every year. But day in day out once soldiers go on parade they might clean a toilet and that’s them for the day.
If the army went on strike would anyone notice?"
Leb wasn't a holiday camp when my dad was there in the 70s. He helped build orphanages and lost one of his best friends there to a guy whose being extradited to Ireland to stand trail for his murder. The tours my brother did were camps either. Being shelled while in the MOWAG coming in from protecting a village of locals from people who wanted to kill them. As for the rest of what you said you haven't a clue what you're talking about and it shows. Happy fabbing now.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"They played a very big role during covid also and I think still do. They are involved in alot of things that the normal civi does not know about also. While upto 600 serve over seas another 600 are in training to take over for the next 6 months etc"
They did yes. One of my cousins helped set up the temporary testing sites at the beginning of the lockdown. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Somebody please tell me the army have a GAA team so I can imagine Aland's head explode "
I know the curragh had a team. Not sure if it was IDF associated though. Have a rowing team though. One of my uncle's coached it for years. |
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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago
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"Great they might be drafted in to ease the chaos. Makes you think what does the Irish army do here on a daily basis ?
Sure half of them are on Fab  "
This something of an exaggeration, I would suggest; probably less than 100 on on Fab: but those that are, are displaying good judgement! |
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"Great they might be drafted in to ease the chaos. Makes you think what does the Irish army do here on a daily basis ?"
Following this thread with interest.
OP, i have just one question for you...
Have you ever served in the Defence Forces yourself? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There is a really old expression that applies to military personnel who stand in readiness to deal with a contingency : They also serve who stand and wait!"
FFS would you give it a rest .
Keyboard warrior
Your full of it |
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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago
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"Dad’s Army "
Since the death of Frank Williams (The vicar-Reverend Timothy Farthing) was announced in The Times a few days ago, astonishing there is now only one member of the original cast of Dad's Army still alive: Ian Lavender, who played Private Pike-John Le Mesurier's son (on-screen). He is now 76.
"You stupid boy"
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"Dad’s Army "
Well, at 5'3", you'll never find out for yourself.
Anyway, back to the thread.
Army deployed to the airport. Its not the first time. The army have been deployed on operations and ceremonial duties at all our major airports over the years. Civilians dont see this as it happens out of public view. I think its good that a country can call on its Army when disaster strikes, or anybody else strikes, for that matter. I hope if the Army are tasked , that they don't just assist the DAA in security roles , but take full control. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There is a really old expression that applies to military personnel who stand in readiness to deal with a contingency : They also serve who stand and wait!
FFS would you give it a rest .
Keyboard warrior
Your full of it "
Oh chef never seen this side of you |
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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago
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"Dad’s Army
Well, at 5'3", you'll never find out for yourself.
Anyway, back to the thread.
Army deployed to the airport. Its not the first time. The army have been deployed on operations and ceremonial duties at all our major airports over the years. Civilians dont see this as it happens out of public view. I think its good that a country can call on its Army when disaster strikes, or anybody else strikes, for that matter. I hope if the Army are tasked , that they don't just assist the DAA in security roles , but take full control. "
Legally, the Irish Army would only be able to take full control under rare conditions of martial law having been formally declared.
Their role is currently to assist the [incompetent] civil power, the Dublin Airport Authority and its contractors and agency staff; if specifically authorised to do so by the government. |
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"Dad’s Army
Well, at 5'3", you'll never find out for yourself.
Anyway, back to the thread.
Army deployed to the airport. Its not the first time. The army have been deployed on operations and ceremonial duties at all our major airports over the years. Civilians dont see this as it happens out of public view. I think its good that a country can call on its Army when disaster strikes, or anybody else strikes, for that matter. I hope if the Army are tasked , that they don't just assist the DAA in security roles , but take full control.
Legally, the Irish Army would only be able to take full control under rare conditions of martial law having been formally declared.
Their role is currently to assist the [incompetent] civil power, the Dublin Airport Authority and its contractors and agency staff; if specifically authorised to do so by the government. "
Damn.. |
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By *ubal1Man
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"Dad’s Army
Well, at 5'3", you'll never find out for yourself.
Anyway, back to the thread.
Army deployed to the airport. Its not the first time. The army have been deployed on operations and ceremonial duties at all our major airports over the years. Civilians dont see this as it happens out of public view. I think its good that a country can call on its Army when disaster strikes, or anybody else strikes, for that matter. I hope if the Army are tasked , that they don't just assist the DAA in security roles , but take full control.
Legally, the Irish Army would only be able to take full control under rare conditions of martial law having been formally declared.
Their role is currently to assist the [incompetent] civil power, the Dublin Airport Authority and its contractors and agency staff; if specifically authorised to do so by the government.
Damn.. "
True. I was actually at Dublin Airport on that infamous Sunday when the travellers failed to board their aircraft on time.
It was utter chaos; but it has been bad in other airports too! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Op asked what do they do ? their job and get shite pay for it what do you do in your office or anywhere else for that matter I’m sure a lot of the posters start at 9 and finish at five just like df so If your telling me your horsing blocks up and down a ladder that was your choice some went with the df wtf |
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By *indenMan
over a year ago
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Aland your standard of trolling had been in steady decline of late, is everything ok?
Do you need a chat, or a hug?…… 
I find it strange with all that your mates told you about the army, that they never told you what they did every day, or that you never asked them since you obviously want to know….. 
Maybe the army is a bit like fight club…..shhhhhhh
Or maybe your mates told you they did nothing but sit around all the time, maybe they did, maybe they were just lazy fuckers.
And I’m sure the families and friends of the eighty seven irish soldiers who died peace keeping around the world would have a different view about those holidays camps you mentioned, fourth six in “The Led” as you refer to it, quite a military term…..
You seem to hold a grudge against the military only rivalled by your grudge with the GAA, is that it Aland?
Could you not make the team?
Or did you manage to make your way in but it wasn’t for you and left a bitter taste?
I’ll say this, the army is always mentioned when the shit hits the fan, but if you happen to be in the splash zone when it does, you’ll be very glad of anything that can be done for you or anyone you know if they are ever unfortunately enough to need help, from anyone that wears a uniform.
You’ll only be sorry that there wasn’t more of them, and they they weren’t better equipped and rewarded.
There are families all around the world, for many different reasons, what are grateful for an Irish soldier.
Irish soldiers and peacekeepers are respected around the world for their professionalism, conduct, ability and character, it’s sad to see they don’t seem to get the same respect from all the people of the country they represent. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The army cannot take over the role which is causing the most chaos. Pasport control cannot be done by army staff, and checkin can only be done by the airlines so they wont be doing that and they wont be allowed on the apron without spevialist training, so they must be involved in crowd control or baggage logistics. |
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By *indenMan
over a year ago
Naas which is South West of Dublin |
I don’t know what they’re intended roll would be but personally I think it’s a ridiculous idea, I don’t know what they are expected to do that anyone that could be hired tomorrow to do without training, and if they’re going to have to train them or show them what to do, then why not train or show newly hired staff and give more people jobs?
Of course the answer is probably because they’re already there, from a hiring or vetting/security aspect, particularly on the airside, and it’s probably cheaper and easier in the short term just to bring them in, if required, like having emergency staff on standby, but not actually costing anything, just to get them over what they consider a short term hump. |
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Why is there always the need to slag off our army with the same boring arguments... rather than simply be proud of the fact that we are an independent nation, and a hard fought one at that, and also be proud of what the defense forces have contributed albeit in a very small way on the international stage.
I had an older brother in the army years ago, and also had another brother in the fire service.
You could also argue that the fire service basically sit on their arse playing cards or watching TV most of the time.... just waiting for that bell to ring...I mean, what use are they really !! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There is a really old expression that applies to military personnel who stand in readiness to deal with a contingency : They also serve who stand and wait!
FFS would you give it a rest .
Keyboard warrior
Your full of it
Oh chef never seen this side of you "
He thinks he knows it all
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"Op asked what do they do ? their job and get shite pay for it what do you do in your office or anywhere else for that matter I’m sure a lot of the posters start at 9 and finish at five just like df so If your telling me your horsing blocks up and down a ladder that was your choice some went with the df wtf "
Totally agree with you
The army serve our country and are there to facilitate any assistance to the country let it be flooding, severe weather conditions or whatever
They are underpaid for what they do
Would any of the begrudgers do a week in their boots and the physical training and come out the other end smiling
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"Aland your standard of trolling had been in steady decline of late, is everything ok?
Do you need a chat, or a hug?……
I find it strange with all that your mates told you about the army, that they never told you what they did every day, or that you never asked them since you obviously want to know…..
Maybe the army is a bit like fight club…..shhhhhhh
Or maybe your mates told you they did nothing but sit around all the time, maybe they did, maybe they were just lazy fuckers.
And I’m sure the families and friends of the eighty seven irish soldiers who died peace keeping around the world would have a different view about those holidays camps you mentioned, fourth six in “The Led” as you refer to it, quite a military term…..
You seem to hold a grudge against the military only rivalled by your grudge with the GAA, is that it Aland?
Could you not make the team?
Or did you manage to make your way in but it wasn’t for you and left a bitter taste?
I’ll say this, the army is always mentioned when the shit hits the fan, but if you happen to be in the splash zone when it does, you’ll be very glad of anything that can be done for you or anyone you know if they are ever unfortunately enough to need help, from anyone that wears a uniform.
You’ll only be sorry that there wasn’t more of them, and they they weren’t better equipped and rewarded.
There are families all around the world, for many different reasons, what are grateful for an Irish soldier.
Irish soldiers and peacekeepers are respected around the world for their professionalism, conduct, ability and character, it’s sad to see they don’t seem to get the same respect from all the people of the country they represent."
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By *ateniteCouple
over a year ago
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I chose to take the Queen's Shilling rather than joining the Irish army purely to get more opportunity to travel and go on deployment outside the constraints of UN peacekeeping.
In my time I worked all over the world with soldiers from America, Canada, France, Italy, Netherlands and many more. I can tell you now that every army, no matter the size, capability, budget etc. has an element of sitting on your arse doing fuck all or sweeping out hangars, or cleaning accommodation blocks, or Friday afternoon weapon cleaning before you can knock off for the weekend.
To add to that, I crossed paths with Irish DF soldiers on Operations and on various training courses over the years and everytime they showed true professionalism and always did themselves and Ireland proud...and of course always centre of attention at the subsequent social gatherings that go with army life.
A peacetime army will always find a way to keep troops busy, but soldiers being soldiers will always try their best to avoid these "bone" activities and sit on their arses where possible. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Aland your standard of trolling had been in steady decline of late, is everything ok?
Do you need a chat, or a hug?……
I find it strange with all that your mates told you about the army, that they never told you what they did every day, or that you never asked them since you obviously want to know…..
Maybe the army is a bit like fight club…..shhhhhhh
Or maybe your mates told you they did nothing but sit around all the time, maybe they did, maybe they were just lazy fuckers.
And I’m sure the families and friends of the eighty seven irish soldiers who died peace keeping around the world would have a different view about those holidays camps you mentioned, fourth six in “The Led” as you refer to it, quite a military term…..
You seem to hold a grudge against the military only rivalled by your grudge with the GAA, is that it Aland?
Could you not make the team?
Or did you manage to make your way in but it wasn’t for you and left a bitter taste?
I’ll say this, the army is always mentioned when the shit hits the fan, but if you happen to be in the splash zone when it does, you’ll be very glad of anything that can be done for you or anyone you know if they are ever unfortunately enough to need help, from anyone that wears a uniform.
You’ll only be sorry that there wasn’t more of them, and they they weren’t better equipped and rewarded.
There are families all around the world, for many different reasons, what are grateful for an Irish soldier.
Irish soldiers and peacekeepers are respected around the world for their professionalism, conduct, ability and character, it’s sad to see they don’t seem to get the same respect from all the people of the country they represent."
Thanks for the psychological analysis there
I know fine rightly what they did or didn’t do everyday. I don’t have a grudge against any of the above, an opinion yes but not a grudge.
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By *indenMan
over a year ago
Naas which is South West of Dublin |
"Aland your standard of trolling had been in steady decline of late, is everything ok?
Do you need a chat, or a hug?……
I find it strange with all that your mates told you about the army, that they never told you what they did every day, or that you never asked them since you obviously want to know…..
Maybe the army is a bit like fight club…..shhhhhhh
Or maybe your mates told you they did nothing but sit around all the time, maybe they did, maybe they were just lazy fuckers.
And I’m sure the families and friends of the eighty seven irish soldiers who died peace keeping around the world would have a different view about those holidays camps you mentioned, fourth six in “The Led” as you refer to it, quite a military term…..
You seem to hold a grudge against the military only rivalled by your grudge with the GAA, is that it Aland?
Could you not make the team?
Or did you manage to make your way in but it wasn’t for you and left a bitter taste?
I’ll say this, the army is always mentioned when the shit hits the fan, but if you happen to be in the splash zone when it does, you’ll be very glad of anything that can be done for you or anyone you know if they are ever unfortunately enough to need help, from anyone that wears a uniform.
You’ll only be sorry that there wasn’t more of them, and they they weren’t better equipped and rewarded.
There are families all around the world, for many different reasons, what are grateful for an Irish soldier.
Irish soldiers and peacekeepers are respected around the world for their professionalism, conduct, ability and character, it’s sad to see they don’t seem to get the same respect from all the people of the country they represent.
Thanks for the psychological analysis there
I know fine rightly what they did or didn’t do everyday. I don’t have a grudge against any of the above, an opinion yes but not a grudge.
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"Great they might be drafted in to ease the chaos. Makes you think what does the Irish army do here on a daily basis ?
Aside from ongoing foreign assignments to Chad, Lebanon and other UN peace-keeping missions, the majority of time is probably spent training, especially at the camp in the Wicklow mountains near their live-firing range in the Glen of Imaal.
Even during wartime, only a relatively small % of any army is engaged in face to face combat. The remainder are in logistical and support roles.
Even today, the guarding of cash in transit in support of the Gardai is still important.
Eh cash in transit has been axed since 2014.
Army do a stint of six months abroad and only a small percentage of the army are abroad or in training at any one time.
They go to the Glen once or twice a year for live operations , they have no need to be firing live ammunition constantly. Imagine the cost of that "
Well that's wrong, clearly haven't a clue what roles the army prefer. DF trains in the Glen throughout the year as well as other regions. Also during COVID they were helping out with the jabs, contact tracing the lot.
DF barely have the numbers to cover their roles as it is(most DF members I know are covering 3-4 different roles or jobs as they lack the manpower to have 1 person per role. So having to work in the Airport now is utter bollocks. |
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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago
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The plan seems to be to have them on the perimeter on stop and search for deliveries and the like
Thus freeing staff with airside clearance to move into the security and search area's under pressure |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Great they might be drafted in to ease the chaos. Makes you think what does the Irish army do here on a daily basis ?"
They pass the time.. it looks good that's about the height of it.. The irish army would very quickly be flattened in the event of war/invasion so is there any point in having an army at all |
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The Army cannot be drafted in to provide airport screening services, be that of passengers, staff or cargo unless they are first put through the appropriate training and accreditation process which would take 4-5 weeks.
That's due to EU laws around aviation security. It sounds daft (and it is) but that's the law. Even the Airport police cannot fulfil screening roles without the appropriate accreditation.
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"Great they might be drafted in to ease the chaos. Makes you think what does the Irish army do here on a daily basis ?
Aside from ongoing foreign assignments to Chad, Lebanon and other UN peace-keeping missions, the majority of time is probably spent training, especially at the camp in the Wicklow mountains near their live-firing range in the Glen of Imaal.
Even during wartime, only a relatively small % of any army is engaged in face to face combat. The remainder are in logistical and support roles.
Even today, the guarding of cash in transit in support of the Gardai is still important.
Eh cash in transit has been axed since 2014.
Army do a stint of six months abroad and only a small percentage of the army are abroad or in training at any one time.
They go to the Glen once or twice a year for live operations , they have no need to be firing live ammunition constantly. Imagine the cost of that "
So what do they do ?? |
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"Great they might be drafted in to ease the chaos. Makes you think what does the Irish army do here on a daily basis ?
Aside from ongoing foreign assignments to Chad, Lebanon and other UN peace-keeping missions, the majority of time is probably spent training, especially at the camp in the Wicklow mountains near their live-firing range in the Glen of Imaal.
Even during wartime, only a relatively small % of any army is engaged in face to face combat. The remainder are in logistical and support roles.
Even today, the guarding of cash in transit in support of the Gardai is still important.
As well as guarding military camp such as the curragh. Large amounts of guns and ammo unfortunately don't guard themselves.
I would wager that at any one time there are no more than fifty military personnel guarding the armouries of Oglaigh na hEireann on the whole island. Hardened bunkers with sophisticated devices to monitor any incursions or suspicious activity reduces boots needed on the ground.
As a side note: Irish defence forces are underpaid and understaffed as a direct result; they would be unable to repel an invasion, not that one is expected.
But then Ukraine happened!
They do Fook all on a daily basis. Had mates in the army and they would easily admit it
Must tell half my family they did fuck all during their service periods but what would they or I know about it.
What did they do every day ?
Guard duty, exercises, six tours of peace keeping between immediate family members, cash escort while that was still a thing, range warden up in the Glen of immal, cross training with other members of the services, courses (learning new equipment and vechiles) riot training, prison guard training (in case the prison guards striked) flood and disaster aid (flooding etc) also bear in mind that the camps and barracks aren't subject to the jurisdiction of the gardai so anything that happens illegally is subject to the military police. A lot of them kept busy with various shit. That just off the top of my head. Obviously your "mates" were useless and hence didn't get to do anything because they weren't any good so did nothing. "
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"Dad’s Army
Well, at 5'3", you'll never find out for yourself.
Anyway, back to the thread.
Army deployed to the airport. Its not the first time. The army have been deployed on operations and ceremonial duties at all our major airports over the years. Civilians dont see this as it happens out of public view. I think its good that a country can call on its Army when disaster strikes, or anybody else strikes, for that matter. I hope if the Army are tasked , that they don't just assist the DAA in security roles , but take full control. "
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"Dad’s Army
Well, at 5'3", you'll never find out for yourself.
Anyway, back to the thread.
Army deployed to the airport. Its not the first time. The army have been deployed on operations and ceremonial duties at all our major airports over the years. Civilians dont see this as it happens out of public view. I think its good that a country can call on its Army when disaster strikes, or anybody else strikes, for that matter. I hope if the Army are tasked , that they don't just assist the DAA in security roles , but take full control.
Legally, the Irish Army would only be able to take full control under rare conditions of martial law having been formally declared.
Their role is currently to assist the [incompetent] civil power, the Dublin Airport Authority and its contractors and agency staff; if specifically authorised to do so by the government. "
Legal smegal coup coup coup 
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"Op asked what do they do ? their job and get shite pay for it what do you do in your office or anywhere else for that matter I’m sure a lot of the posters start at 9 and finish at five just like df so If your telling me your horsing blocks up and down a ladder that was your choice some went with the df wtf "
id say alot of us are in the fine ship Little Pay unfortunately |
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"Aland your standard of trolling had been in steady decline of late, is everything ok?
Do you need a chat, or a hug?……
I find it strange with all that your mates told you about the army, that they never told you what they did every day, or that you never asked them since you obviously want to know…..
Maybe the army is a bit like fight club…..shhhhhhh
Or maybe your mates told you they did nothing but sit around all the time, maybe they did, maybe they were just lazy fuckers.
And I’m sure the families and friends of the eighty seven irish soldiers who died peace keeping around the world would have a different view about those holidays camps you mentioned, fourth six in “The Led” as you refer to it, quite a military term…..
You seem to hold a grudge against the military only rivalled by your grudge with the GAA, is that it Aland?
Could you not make the team?
Or did you manage to make your way in but it wasn’t for you and left a bitter taste?
I’ll say this, the army is always mentioned when the shit hits the fan, but if you happen to be in the splash zone when it does, you’ll be very glad of anything that can be done for you or anyone you know if they are ever unfortunately enough to need help, from anyone that wears a uniform.
You’ll only be sorry that there wasn’t more of them, and they they weren’t better equipped and rewarded.
There are families all around the world, for many different reasons, what are grateful for an Irish soldier.
Irish soldiers and peacekeepers are respected around the world for their professionalism, conduct, ability and character, it’s sad to see they don’t seem to get the same respect from all the people of the country they represent."
But they do from many ,,, infact the majority so all good  |
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"I chose to take the Queen's Shilling rather than joining the Irish army purely to get more opportunity to travel and go on deployment outside the constraints of UN peacekeeping.
In my time I worked all over the world with soldiers from America, Canada, France, Italy, Netherlands and many more. I can tell you now that every army, no matter the size, capability, budget etc. has an element of sitting on your arse doing fuck all or sweeping out hangars, or cleaning accommodation blocks, or Friday afternoon weapon cleaning before you can knock off for the weekend.
To add to that, I crossed paths with Irish DF soldiers on Operations and on various training courses over the years and everytime they showed true professionalism and always did themselves and Ireland proud...and of course always centre of attention at the subsequent social gatherings that go with army life.
A peacetime army will always find a way to keep troops busy, but soldiers being soldiers will always try their best to avoid these "bone" activities and sit on their arses where possible."
Surly this is best answer as it is real experience. Not second hand ,balanced. And it makes sense |
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Too many to reply to. Stop slagging our DF off.
They have roles and tasks like any job.
How many here have pointless jobs? If the thousands of people working for Facebook list their jobs wouldn’t we all survive and not give a rats ass. The army have many roles to cover including prison duty, protection of money transfers, support of Garda and overseas duties. Any I know are dead sound.
If I had my way all teens should do six months of duty. |
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"Too many to reply to. Stop slagging our DF off.
They have roles and tasks like any job.
How many here have pointless jobs? If the thousands of people working for Facebook list their jobs wouldn’t we all survive and not give a rats ass. The army have many roles to cover including prison duty, protection of money transfers, support of Garda and overseas duties. Any I know are dead sound.
If I had my way all teens should do six months of duty. "
Agree with all ,, ,,,, sept the bit at the end ,,, I get where your coming from though |
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By *ateniteCouple
over a year ago
Youghal |
"Too many to reply to. Stop slagging our DF off.
They have roles and tasks like any job.
How many here have pointless jobs? If the thousands of people working for Facebook list their jobs wouldn’t we all survive and not give a rats ass. The army have many roles to cover including prison duty, protection of money transfers, support of Garda and overseas duties. Any I know are dead sound.
If I had my way all teens should do six months of duty.
Agree with all ,, ,,,, sept the bit at the end ,,, I get where your coming from though "
Agreed, forced conscription is not conducive to a maintaining a modern, professional army.
The argument that conscription will sort out the youth of today is wrong. Societies problems are not for the military to fix.
To quote an old adage "One volunteer is better than ten pressed men" |
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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago
Newry Down |
I noted from a report in today's Irish Times of a radio interview of the minister that military personnel would continue to paid the abysmal army rate of pay when carrying out security duties at the airports.
Typical penny-pinching attitude towards the army who cannot refuse to carry out instructions without suffering serious action, up to and including court martial! |
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"I noted from a report in today's Irish Times of a radio interview of the minister that military personnel would continue to paid the abysmal army rate of pay when carrying out security duties at the airports.
Typical penny-pinching attitude towards the army who cannot refuse to carry out instructions without suffering serious action, up to and including court martial!"
Very true
The govt even stated the DAA will cover the expense…. What expense?
So whatever the DAA are paying for, the Govt will pocket since we receive a flat rate as it is
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"I noted from a report in today's Irish Times of a radio interview of the minister that military personnel would continue to paid the
abysmal army rate of pay when carrying out security duties at the airports.
Typical penny-pinching attitude towards the army who cannot refuse to carry out instructions without suffering serious action, up to and including court martial!
Very true
The govt even stated the DAA will cover the expense…. What expense?
So whatever the DAA are paying for, the Govt will pocket since we receive a flat rate as it is
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€22.50 before tax for 12 hours |
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