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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Commentator on the bbc called the irish guards "the micks"
Fine? Derogatory? Or coukdn't give a shit what entitled royalist wankers think??
"The Micks have this fantastic mix of guards' discipline and pursuit of excellence, with that Irish 'irrational tenth' if I can quote Lawrence of Arabia, which makes it the best regiment on the planet"
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"Commentator on the bbc called the irish guards "the micks"
Fine? Derogatory? Or coukdn't give a shit what entitled royalist wankers think??
"The Micks have this fantastic mix of guards' discipline and pursuit of excellence, with that Irish 'irrational tenth' if I can quote Lawrence of Arabia, which makes it the best regiment on the planet"
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I would be in the "couldn't give a shit what entitled royalist wankers think??" Bracket.
It's all just shite talk, to keep up the whole charade!...The Jubilee was very much forced this year. Kind of feels like the last hurrah.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Would be to some if they didnt know the regiment refer to themselves as the micks. "
And you got to the point faster than expected
You're right
However, the Irish news, Mirror and other websites are trying to stir up indignation
Good to see fabbers are above jumping on bandwagons! |
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"Commentator on the bbc called the irish guards "the micks"
Fine? Derogatory? Or coukdn't give a shit what entitled royalist wankers think??
"The Micks have this fantastic mix of guards' discipline and pursuit of excellence, with that Irish 'irrational tenth' if I can quote Lawrence of Arabia, which makes it the best regiment on the planet"
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The guy who used this term wasn't an "entitled royalist wanker" as you put it.. it was a member of the unit that's nicknamed the micks. Its also quite telling that you are using insulting words to insult a man who you are saying insulted you.
(I wouldn't choose to use this word myself, but I don't think in this context he was using the word in an insulting way) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm not at all offended tbh.
But I do think there are certain words that people should make an effort to phase out.
British society in relation to the Irish for example "micks paddy's and any reference to potato eaters".
Not intending to cause offence isn't an acceptable excuse when referring to using language that could potentially do so when referring to other races so I'm not sure it is here either
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"Commentator on the bbc called the irish guards "the micks"
Fine? Derogatory? Or coukdn't give a shit what entitled royalist wankers think??
"The Micks have this fantastic mix of guards' discipline and pursuit of excellence, with that Irish 'irrational tenth' if I can quote Lawrence of Arabia, which makes it the best regiment on the planet"
The guy who used this term wasn't an "entitled royalist wanker" as you put it.. it was a member of the unit that's nicknamed the micks. Its also quite telling that you are using insulting words to insult a man who you are saying insulted you.
(I wouldn't choose to use this word myself, but I don't think in this context he was using the word in an insulting way)"
Most people couldn't care less, but the origin of the nickname was derogatory!
The easily offended will be offended. In recent years the term has probably become more endearing within the military.
Like, I've never heard anybody get offended by "Paddy's Wigwam" in Liverpool! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Commentator on the bbc called the irish guards "the micks"
Fine? Derogatory? Or coukdn't give a shit what entitled royalist wankers think??
"The Micks have this fantastic mix of guards' discipline and pursuit of excellence, with that Irish 'irrational tenth' if I can quote Lawrence of Arabia, which makes it the best regiment on the planet"
The guy who used this term wasn't an "entitled royalist wanker" as you put it.. it was a member of the unit that's nicknamed the micks. Its also quite telling that you are using insulting words to insult a man who you are saying insulted you.
(I wouldn't choose to use this word myself, but I don't think in this context he was using the word in an insulting way)"
Where did i say i was insulted
Read my post again |
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By *ombikerMan
over a year ago
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Anyone offended by the term Micks would not join them anyway, I doubt there are very many actual Irish men in the Irish guards any more as they would probably think they are a shower of micks with a capital P anyway. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Commentator on the bbc called the irish guards "the micks"
Fine? Derogatory? Or coukdn't give a shit what entitled royalist wankers think??
"The Micks have this fantastic mix of guards' discipline and pursuit of excellence, with that Irish 'irrational tenth' if I can quote Lawrence of Arabia, which makes it the best regiment on the planet"
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Is that the regiment that just had 6 members arrested for supply of drugs and firearms |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Commentator on the bbc called the irish guards "the micks"
Fine? Derogatory? Or coukdn't give a shit what entitled royalist wankers think??
"The Micks have this fantastic mix of guards' discipline and pursuit of excellence, with that Irish 'irrational tenth' if I can quote Lawrence of Arabia, which makes it the best regiment on the planet"
Is that the regiment that just had 6 members arrested for supply of drugs and firearms "
And money laundering |
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By *odge72Man
over a year ago
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Wonder what the Ukrainians call their fellow countrymen in Russian Regiments ?
Being called a mick by the British while serving them
Sums up the servile attitude of a thankfully tiny cohort of Irish people |
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over a year ago
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"Wonder what the Ukrainians call their fellow countrymen in Russian Regiments ?
Being called a mick by the British while serving them
Sums up the servile attitude of a thankfully tiny cohort of Irish people "
Wonder if the Welsh like being called Taff or the Scots Jock
I’m not a paddy or a mick, I’m Irish |
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"Wonder what the Ukrainians call their fellow countrymen in Russian Regiments ?
Being called a mick by the British while serving them
Sums up the servile attitude of a thankfully tiny cohort of Irish people
Wonder if the Welsh like being called Taff or the Scots Jock
I’m not a paddy or a mick, I’m Irish "
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Presumably you're not part of the royal Irish regiment.. so he wasn't referring to you. |
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By *odge72Man
over a year ago
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"Wonder what the Ukrainians call their fellow countrymen in Russian Regiments ?
Being called a mick by the British while serving them
Sums up the servile attitude of a thankfully tiny cohort of Irish people
Wonder if the Welsh like being called Taff or the Scots Jock
I’m not a paddy or a mick, I’m Irish
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Presumably you're not part of the royal Irish regiment.. so he wasn't referring to you. "
He was hardly referring to you either as you are a British migrant to the Republic of Ireland
See we can all do what you just did |
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By *odge72Man
over a year ago
clonmel |
"So neither of us should be offended.. grand that's that all sorted so."
It’s not up to you to decide whether I or anyone else is offended or not
But you keep Tansplaining things away
There’s a good lad
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"So neither of us should be offended.. grand that's that all sorted so.
It’s not up to you to decide whether I or anyone else is offended or not
But you keep Tansplaining things away
There’s a good lad
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Congratulations on not seeing the irony of using an ACTUAL attempted insult, while trying to be insulted about the nickname of a foreign regiment. |
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By *odge72Man
over a year ago
clonmel |
"So neither of us should be offended.. grand that's that all sorted so.
It’s not up to you to decide whether I or anyone else is offended or not
But you keep Tansplaining things away
There’s a good lad
Congratulations on not seeing the irony of using an ACTUAL attempted insult, while trying to be insulted about the nickname of a foreign regiment."
Aye
A foreign.regiment appropriating the Irish name
Be straight about it
You ain’t Irish if you are in the British Army
You are British
Serving the British
The irony of Unionists who despise anything Irish serving in a British regiment with Irish in the title |
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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago
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"So neither of us should be offended.. grand that's that all sorted so.
It’s not up to you to decide whether I or anyone else is offended or not
But you keep Tansplaining things away
There’s a good lad
Congratulations on not seeing the irony of using an ACTUAL attempted insult, while trying to be insulted about the nickname of a foreign regiment.
Aye
A foreign.regiment appropriating the Irish name
Be straight about it
You ain’t Irish if you are in the British Army
You are British
Serving the British
The irony of Unionists who despise anything Irish serving in a British regiment with Irish in the title "
Must change all the records in The war memorial gardens in Dublin to British for all the Irishmen and boys who died in The first world war fighting in The Royal Irish Regiment
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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago
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Would it be fair to say that most Irishmen who joined the British Army at the beginning of the 20th century did so in order to escape their impoverished backgrounds; and they then later became cannon fodder fighting in the first industrialised war, fought in the cockpit of Europe; Belgium, France, Holland, Luxembourg and Germany. |
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"Would it be fair to say that most Irishmen who joined the British Army at the beginning of the 20th century did so in order to escape their impoverished backgrounds; and they then later became cannon fodder fighting in the first industrialised war, fought in the cockpit of Europe; Belgium, France, Holland, Luxembourg and Germany. "
That's fair... but its the same the world over incl in the UK. Its poor working class lads with limited opportunities that end up with guns in war zones. |
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By *odge72Man
over a year ago
clonmel |
"So neither of us should be offended.. grand that's that all sorted so.
It’s not up to you to decide whether I or anyone else is offended or not
But you keep Tansplaining things away
There’s a good lad
Congratulations on not seeing the irony of using an ACTUAL attempted insult, while trying to be insulted about the nickname of a foreign regiment.
Aye
A foreign.regiment appropriating the Irish name
Be straight about it
You ain’t Irish if you are in the British Army
You are British
Serving the British
The irony of Unionists who despise anything Irish serving in a British regiment with Irish in the title
Must change all the records in The war memorial gardens in Dublin to British for all the Irishmen and boys who died in The first world war fighting in The Royal Irish Regiment
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Cannon fodder when first cousins fell out
And then when Irish people wanted their independence,the British Army sexually assaulted pillaged and burned their way round Ireland
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"Would it be fair to say that most Irishmen who joined the British Army at the beginning of the 20th century did so in order to escape their impoverished backgrounds; and they then later became cannon fodder fighting in the first industrialised war, fought in the cockpit of Europe; Belgium, France, Holland, Luxembourg and Germany. "
Some did, to escape poverty. Some joined for the adventure. Some joined because of John Redmond's campaign. |
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Also even since independence many Irish men from the Republic,I may add, served In the British forces, as it was a gaurenteed job.
Wasn't always revealed back home, 'oh Where's your Seamus these days Mrs Doyle..?...oh working in a factory in birmingham'...the reality 2as he was serving in the British army or RAF
Was it not a few years ago that a lad from Limerickwas killed in Actio n serving abroad..
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By *andytownMan
over a year ago
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"Commentator on the bbc called the irish guards "the micks"
Fine? Derogatory? Or coukdn't give a shit what entitled royalist wankers think??
"The Micks have this fantastic mix of guards' discipline and pursuit of excellence, with that Irish 'irrational tenth' if I can quote Lawrence of Arabia, which makes it the best regiment on the planet"
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Poor form saying "entitled royalist wankers" but to be expected 
Fine Regiment is the Micks, they wear that with pride and will continue to do so.
Uppa Micks  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Would it be fair to say that most Irishmen who joined the British Army at the beginning of the 20th century did so in order to escape their impoverished backgrounds; and they then later became cannon fodder fighting in the first industrialised war, fought in the cockpit of Europe; Belgium, France, Holland, Luxembourg and Germany. "
I think it's a shame that these men , in the south especially, dont get the recognition
Poppy day has become too political
A green poppy?
But remember men who fought
Argue over rights and wrongs of various conflicts, but these men were, and are, the best of us |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Would it be fair to say that most Irishmen who joined the British Army at the beginning of the 20th century did so in order to escape their impoverished backgrounds; and they then later became cannon fodder fighting in the first industrialised war, fought in the cockpit of Europe; Belgium, France, Holland, Luxembourg and Germany.
I think it's a shame that these men , in the south especially, dont get the recognition
Poppy day has become too political
A green poppy?
But remember men who fought
Argue over rights and wrongs of various conflicts, but these men were, and are, the best of us"
I don't know I think there is a conversation to be had about how we recognise lives lost in war. In the US and UK its become such a tool for propaganda and recruitment that it drives people towards the armed forces, thus creating the new generation of cannon fodder for the people who make policy.
It's then used as a tool to shit down any antiwar conversations because the loud minority shout about disrespecting the dead etc....
I don't think it's as simple as just recognise those who gave their lives any longer and especially as we move further away from ww2 and its encompassing more and more morally gray wars
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Thinking back I'm really not sure I've ever heard anyone call an Irish person a mick in real life... I think i only heard it in American movies. Its certainly quite an old fashioned term. English people mostly call Irish people Irish. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Thinking back I'm really not sure I've ever heard anyone call an Irish person a mick in real life... I think i only heard it in American movies. Its certainly quite an old fashioned term. English people mostly call Irish people Irish."
As soon as I reveal I'm Irish in any of the online games I play ots a barrage of "banter" about being a paddy and a potato eater from the English people. I know it's not malicious but its certainly a thing. Ya mick I haven't heard either though |
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By *odge72Man
over a year ago
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"Would it be fair to say that most Irishmen who joined the British Army at the beginning of the 20th century did so in order to escape their impoverished backgrounds; and they then later became cannon fodder fighting in the first industrialised war, fought in the cockpit of Europe; Belgium, France, Holland, Luxembourg and Germany.
I think it's a shame that these men , in the south especially, dont get the recognition
Poppy day has become too political
A green poppy?
But remember men who fought
Argue over rights and wrongs of various conflicts, but these men were, and are, the best of us"
we actually have our own National day of
remembrance held annually
Which remembers all Irish men who have died in conflict
We don’t need to ape British Tradtions or fund the British Legion when the British government should with their muilti billion military budget be taking care of their own veterans anyways and not leaving them to charity
We should be publicising our own Irish day more
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"Thinking back I'm really not sure I've ever heard anyone call an Irish person a mick in real life... I think i only heard it in American movies. Its certainly quite an old fashioned term. English people mostly call Irish people Irish.
As soon as I reveal I'm Irish in any of the online games I play ots a barrage of "banter" about being a paddy and a potato eater from the English people. I know it's not malicious but its certainly a thing. Ya mick I haven't heard either though"
That's just trash talk though right? Similar would happen if a German guy joined... or (God forbid) a girl
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"Would it be fair to say that most Irishmen who joined the British Army at the beginning of the 20th century did so in order to escape their impoverished backgrounds; and they then later became cannon fodder fighting in the first industrialised war, fought in the cockpit of Europe; Belgium, France, Holland, Luxembourg and Germany.
I think it's a shame that these men , in the south especially, dont get the recognition
Poppy day has become too political
A green poppy?
But remember men who fought
Argue over rights and wrongs of various conflicts, but these men were, and are, the best of us
we actually have our own National day of
remembrance held annually
Which remembers all Irish men who have died in conflict
We don’t need to ape British Tradtions or fund the British Legion when the British government should with their muilti billion military budget be taking care of their own veterans anyways and not leaving them to charity
We should be publicising our own Irish day more
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I'd be happy enough if there was an Irish symbol worn in remembrance of Irish people who died.
I wouldn't agree that they were somehow "the best of us". I'm sure some of them may have been, some of them may not have been, but that's a side issue. The difficulty I have with the British legion's poppy is mostly the British legion, and the fact that the poppy is worn to remember members of the British forces who died in all conflicts, as well as to show support for all past and present members of the British armed forces. That can never be appropriate in this country. |
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"Would it be fair to say that most Irishmen who joined the British Army at the beginning of the 20th century did so in order to escape their impoverished backgrounds; and they then later became cannon fodder fighting in the first industrialised war, fought in the cockpit of Europe; Belgium, France, Holland, Luxembourg and Germany.
I think it's a shame that these men , in the south especially, dont get the recognition
Poppy day has become too political
A green poppy?
But remember men who fought
Argue over rights and wrongs of various conflicts, but these men were, and are, the best of us
we actually have our own National day of
remembrance held annually
Which remembers all Irish men who have died in conflict
We don’t need to ape British Tradtions or fund the British Legion when the British government should with their muilti billion military budget be taking care of their own veterans anyways and not leaving them to charity
We should be publicising our own Irish day more
I'd be happy enough if there was an Irish symbol worn in remembrance of Irish people who died.
I wouldn't agree that they were somehow "the best of us". I'm sure some of them may have been, some of them may not have been, but that's a side issue. The difficulty I have with the British legion's poppy is mostly the British legion, and the fact that the poppy is worn to remember members of the British forces who died in all conflicts, as well as to show support for all past and present members of the British armed forces. That can never be appropriate in this country. "
The Poppy is actually classed as a political symbol.
I was a trustee of a charitable organisation for years and the person responsible for our social media added a poppy on our sm pages without discussing it with the trustees.
Within hours and before we had even discussed it we received a message from the Charity Commission to say that we were in breach of their R&R by displaying a political symbol and if we didn't remove it immediately we would lose our charitable status. |
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"Would be to some if they didnt know the regiment refer to themselves as the micks. "
And very proud they are of the nick-name too.
And it is the 'Micks' with a capital M!
On the theme of the Birthday parade, it was splendid to hear the Dub accent on the guardsman who was handling Seamus, the mascot; then the Irish tunes echoing around Horse Guards.
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By *3nsesMan
over a year ago
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Imagine there was a regiment in the British army called the African Guards and they affectionately called themselves the nigg*rs and then claimed it wasn't offensive at all because the predominantly white members of the African guards didn't consider it an insult. |
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"Im commenting just to comment on a post. Seems to be the thing to do for some people"
Erm... aren't all comments just comments to comment?
At least everyone else posted things relevant to the subject at hand  |
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"Imagine there was a regiment in the British army called the African Guards and they affectionately called themselves the nigg*rs and then claimed it wasn't offensive at all because the predominantly white members of the African guards didn't consider it an insult. "
Very good point. Hard to argue with that. |
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"Im commenting just to comment on a post. Seems to be the thing to do for some people
Erm... aren't all comments just comments to comment?
At least everyone else posted things relevant to the subject at hand "
Thats true perhaps i should just pick the opposite opinion and post something on that instead |
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