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What job is ‘overpaid’? Is there such a thing ?
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By *asual777 OP Man
over a year ago
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Or is it a supply and demand thing ?
Take the most obvious example . A politician . Often said to be an overpaid job. Would I want to canvass and risk verbal abuse ? Have a huge avalanche of people asking me for things that are hard to get (a local Cardiac unit when government policy is To have a few expert ones) and dislike me when I can’t achieve them ? . Would I want my quotes to be a subject of public scrutiny ? The stress of re election ? Let along people targeting me when i am in public or gathering outside my house .
No chance .
What about footballers . Salaries are abscene looking . But what revenues do they generate ?
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There is something morally wrong about the person at the top getting 100+ times the pay of the person at the bottom. The gap is increasing not decreasing. Having said that I don't believe it should be capped. Shareholders should call out the massive payouts and ask for a more even pay distribution. Just like environmental corporate responsibility is becoming a thing... so should pay responsibility become a thing. |
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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago
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"Rte and Pieta House spring to mind "
Rte "Stars" getting paid 400k in case they go elsewhere.....who the fuck would have Ray Darcy
Pieta house......big bucks for the top 3 ....24k for the councillors
Head of HSE ....400k ....ffs
They used to say..pay peanuts and you get monkeys
We get them anyway |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Rte and Pieta House spring to mind
Rte "Stars" getting paid 400k in case they go elsewhere.....who the fuck would have Ray Darcy
Pieta house......big bucks for the top 3 ....24k for the councillors
Head of HSE ....400k ....ffs
They used to say..pay peanuts and you get monkeys
We get them anyway "
There’s a reason why we have lost to prominent senior HSE officials to the private sector… €€€
Why do you think you think the likes of Ulster bank are pulling out ? Nothing to do with the bankers salary cap ?? There’s a reason our banks are so behind, but the masses want salary caps and don’t want to pay for their water |
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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago
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Salaries are a reflection of the core values of the society in which we live: celebrity and enterprise are valued and are thus remunerated accordingly.
Regrettably, many folk who work astonishingly hard at the bottom of hierarchies, public and private, cannot afford the basics in life: accommodation is currently ridiculously expensive through scarcity caused by government incompetence and inadequate planning.
Sport is being hijacked by crafty businesspeople and is really no longer about sport but is now televised entertainment, such as premier league football. The fees paid to the elite are astonishing, but those careers are ephemeral.
Essentially, it comes down to power: individual workers are powerless and the so-called minimum wage is an unliveable amount.
The scarcity of labour, after the pandemic should push wages up, but other benefits will probably decrease such as security of tenure: long-term work benefits.
The most overpaid are those at the peak of the public bodies such as TV and radio presenters; but they can negotiate even bigger fees from private companies: both sides know their value.
The key is not to get caught at the bottom of the hierarchy; when I worked recently for a business, when I got injured they sacked me and there was nothing I could do about it; but I know they are currently having problems getting anyone to work for them: low wages, poor conditions and a toxic working environment.
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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago
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By a long chalk, the most highly, but also most unethically and parasitically remunerated woman in the UK is the lady whose family own the firm which specialises in online gambling; she is paid several hundreds of millions per annum, most of which comes from working class areas which can least afford it.
From memory, a couple of years ago her salary with bonuses was £365,000,000.
Three hundred and sixty five million; excluding the increase in the value of her shareholding or her dividend. |
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"By a long chalk, the most highly, but also most unethically and parasitically remunerated woman in the UK is the lady whose family own the firm which specialises in online gambling; she is paid several hundreds of millions per annum, most of which comes from working class areas which can least afford it.
From memory, a couple of years ago her salary with bonuses was £365,000,000.
Three hundred and sixty five million; excluding the increase in the value of her shareholding or her dividend."
Amd yet our own Ivan Yeats was a bookmaker and managed to go bankrupt. Not as easy as it might appear
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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago
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"By a long chalk, the most highly, but also most unethically and parasitically remunerated woman in the UK is the lady whose family own the firm which specialises in online gambling; she is paid several hundreds of millions per annum, most of which comes from working class areas which can least afford it.
From memory, a couple of years ago her salary with bonuses was £365,000,000.
Three hundred and sixty five million; excluding the increase in the value of her shareholding or her dividend.
Amd yet our own Ivan Yeats was a bookmaker and managed to go bankrupt. Not as easy as it might appear
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Ivan, as far as I can recall ran a bricks and mortar bookmakers, whereas the lady in question runs an online bookmakers, an online gambling business, an online casino, etc.
Bricks and mortar firms, which pay rates, council tax, and other associated costs are finding it increasingly hard to compete; so-called High Streets in GB are becoming economic wastelands. |
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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago
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"Firemen and nurses and people who work in care homes. How dare they get paid so much. Said in absolute sarcasm. But people st the head of charity’s like the Red Cross etc. huge salary’s "
Some large charities pay the upper echelon of their hierarchy exceptionally well; and surprisingly so.
Headhunting current senior business executives to CEO (chief executive officer) positions in NPOs (non-profit organisations) is very lucrative for recruitment organisations.
The top dogs of NPOs are paid so much because of their ability to manage complex organisations, but principally because of their contacts in central government and also internationally. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Without doubt some people are paid far too much. They will never be able to spend the money in their lifetime.
Overall, I cannot understand how people need so much money and know there are millions of starving people in the world dying from lack of food.
As someone said earlier, I also cannot understand how the head of charities, whose reason for being there is to help people with little or nothing, can in all conscience accept their large salaries.
It is a world ill divided with unbievable weath and those dying with lack of food.
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By *j47Man
over a year ago
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Housing charities paying the top dogs massive amounts
In this country we have up to 70 charties helping the homeless instead of one housing authority for the whole country providing purpose build accomadation at reasonable rents
One housing authority to provide housing similar to the housing provided by councils of up to about ten years ago that way taking the private builder and offering a tender to build on state owned land. This would have the effect of providing cheaper housing to the state rental market and dropping the pressure on private rented sector and bringing rents back to more afforadable prices
But this wont happen because the big devolopers will get their lobbyist to campain that this is their function so we need to lobby out local politicans that they sort it out or next time round we will be looking and new ways of getting our interests looked after |
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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago
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"The CEOs of some respected international charities are paid many times more than Prime Ministers of western economies!
Doesnt seem right"
It probably isn't; but these Chief Executives are internationally mobile and rub shoulders with the upper echelon of society, internationally.
Sometimes, I get the impression that the 'stated' beneficiaries of these charities are an afterthought!
Some charities abroad have turned a blind eye to sexual exploitation by their employees, in order not to tarnish their reputations; as religious organisations have too! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Why do you think you think the likes of Ulster bank are pulling out ? Nothing to do with the bankers salary cap ?? There’s a reason our banks are so behind, but the masses want salary caps and don’t want to pay for their water"
ulster bank are part of a morally corrupt banking group, rbs, who single-handedly nearly bankrupted the uk economy. Had to rename themselves to lloyds but still the same.
irish management got away with murder and their pensions |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There is something morally wrong about the person at the top getting 100+ times the pay of the person at the bottom. The gap is increasing not decreasing. Having said that I don't believe it should be capped. Shareholders should call out the massive payouts and ask for a more even pay distribution. Just like environmental corporate responsibility is becoming a thing... so should pay responsibility become a thing. "
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By *inion42Man
over a year ago
minionland |
"The whole tech industry are grossly overpaid
Supply and demand "
As someone who works in ICT I would say not, that’s a very blanket statement, I would say entry level positions are paying peanuts, but someone with 25 years experience, how would you rate them |
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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago
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ulster bank are part of a morally corrupt banking group, rbs, who single-handedly nearly bankrupted the uk economy. "
The Royal Bank of Scotland RBS, that was headed by 'Fred the Shred' did cause massive damage to the economies on these islands and further afield, the ramifications will be felt for generations and has caused untold misery.
Fred and his corrupt cronies should have done time and been personally stripped of all their assets and sourced of income. It was outrageous what the inflicted on ordinary citizens who bore the cost of their speculative lending.
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