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It's one of those professions where they really *SHOULD* be paid sufficiently by the business owner, because there is plenty of money taken into the till... so I just don't understand why they don't get good enough wages already. I don't expect my staff to require tips to be able to earn a living. |
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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago
somewhere |
My haircut costs €17 and I leave a twenty
In fairness its a good services and you don't really notice €3 every month.
I also tip serving staff in a restaurant if I'm eating out after checking to see where the cash goes that I tip....won't eat in a restaurant that uses tips to make up basic wages like The Ivy in Dublin |
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Hairdresser or barber? I get a no 1 at this time of year, it can cost from €6 to €15 depending on where i go. I sometimes tip. I just realised, all the barbers i go to are one man businesses, so no doubt he gets the tip. |
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How much would you guys tip in a restaurant if you had good service? As i spend a bit of time in the states each summer and it's always 15% tip over there so ive nearly started doing that here at home also. |
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"How much would you guys tip in a restaurant if you had good service? As i spend a bit of time in the states each summer and it's always 15% tip over there so ive nearly started doing that here at home also."
Rarely more than 10% but it depends on the service and the cost of the meal. The difference with tipping in hospitality is that the staff are all employees whereas my barber and his partner own the business and are both clearing between £800 and £900 per week after tax and overheads. I earn half that so don't have the disposable income to tip them 6 times a year. |
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"My last trip to the hairdresser 8 weeks ago cost me £165. I actually considered asking them to have a whipround for me...
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Laura cuts mine herself. I feel it offsets the bonkers money she spends getting her hair done  |
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"Do you tip if your hairdresser is also the business owner? I go to a small place only one lady and she owns the business. "
I don't tip my hairdresser - he's the owner of the salon I go to, charges €45 for a wash, cut and dry which takes nearly an hour. I've often felt like walking out during the blow-dry it takes so long, should probably tell him not to bother!
If it was someone self employed and no employees, I'd be more likely to tip but then that would also depend on whether they are working from home or renting premises with rates etc...
I do tip my son's barber - spending 40 minutes cutting my son's hair and charging €9 - I'd feel rotten not tipping  - compare the charge for my haircut in a well established salon as opposed to the local barber...mind you, again I believe that spending 40 minutes on a boy's hair is excessive. A barber who isn't washing and blow-drying should be able to cut shortish hair in 20 minutes...
But tipping is always dependant on various factors and circumstances |
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over a year ago
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"My last trip to the hairdresser 8 weeks ago cost me £165. I actually considered asking them to have a whipround for me...
Laura cuts mine herself. I feel it offsets the bonkers money she spends getting her hair done "
Thankfully E has no hair ?? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"My last trip to the hairdresser 8 weeks ago cost me £165. I actually considered asking them to have a whipround for me...
I did compliment you on your new hairstyle....was well worth it "
You did and thank you! I'm back tomorrow #prayformypurse |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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People saying they wouldn't tip if it's the business owner but at the end of the week they are the ones who have to pay the staff and bills and very often have less wages than the staff after the bills are paid and stock paid for.
My partner is self employed and has 2 girls working for her and they get their wage every week regardless of how good or bad a week it has been. She's often come home with less than the dole value after working her ass off for the week long hours and then the stuff outside it like books, washing towels and stuff.
Hairdressers in General don't get the credit they deserve, its some peoples only social escape from everyday hardship! |
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over a year ago
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I ALWAYS give a tip,hair or beauty...it takes a lot of skills to do this kind of jobs,a lot of training and tools, machineries,scissors,aprons etc are not cheap ...I should know,I work in the industry and my cheapest scissor is 82 euro plus 23% VAT plus many other things...never mind putting UP with really nasty , UNREALISTIC clients at times and the ones that do not like soap and water and the list can go on and on and on...plus ongoing courses on different products and procedures,not cheap ,the money I spent training for over 7+ years would be the equivalent of a deposit On a house ....so yes,I Always give a Tip ,salons or restaurants...for those that never had to work in this type of jobs, have no idea how much patience,passion and dedication it takes to be able to do this kind of job ...never mind ,many times no breaks even for toilet or a coffee,standing all day long etc etc...rant over |
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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago
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"I ALWAYS give a tip,hair or beauty...it takes a lot of skills to do this kind of jobs,a lot of training and tools, machineries,scissors,aprons etc are not cheap ...I should know,I work in the industry and my cheapest scissor is 82 euro plus 23% VAT plus many other things...never mind putting UP with really nasty , UNREALISTIC clients at times and the ones that do not like soap and water and the list can go on and on and on...plus ongoing courses on different products and procedures,not cheap ,the money I spent training for over 7+ years would be the equivalent of a deposit On a house ....so yes,I Always give a Tip ,salons or restaurants...for those that never had to work in this type of jobs, have no idea how much patience,passion and dedication it takes to be able to do this kind of job ...never mind ,many times no breaks even for toilet or a coffee,standing all day long etc etc...rant over "
My barber has recently introduced booking in for a haircut only via their website
Spoke to him as he cut my hair
He's booked out everyday,his staff get actual time off the system between clients for coffee and lunch breaks and no queues at closing time
They're delighted |
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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago
Newry Down |
I cut my own hair during Covid; it wasn't a success
I used to to to a barber shop that purported to be Turkish, but they are actually Romanians.
Basic haircut, eyebrows, ear and nose hair: £9.
I always leave a tenner; that's just over 11% tip. |
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By *oelb46Man
over a year ago
dublin |
I like to tip my barber he always seems to do a outstanding job yes it can be expensive at times personally I would spend around 25-30 euros per hair cut with beard also but I always manage to tip not because of a low wage for barbers but because their trade is a art it takes time and practice with a lot of patients also it makes me feel pretty dam good when I look on a mirror and see a fresh clean fade but thats just my two cents on the topic ?? |
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"My last trip to the hairdresser 8 weeks ago cost me £165. I actually considered asking them to have a whipround for me...
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ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY FIVE STERLING for a haircut!!!! I'd be expecting a happy ended too for that price. Biggest question tho was it worth it expense? |
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"My last trip to the hairdresser 8 weeks ago cost me £165. I actually considered asking them to have a whipround for me...
ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY FIVE STERLING for a haircut!!!! I'd be expecting a happy ended too for that price. Biggest question tho was it worth it expense?"
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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago
somewhere |
"Ah they make serious money for very little expenditure barbers especially a trim for €15 is 100% profit ..get any of the colours online for €5 n they charge ladies €80 plus "
Back of the envelope stuff there....who pays rent,rates,water ESB,wages,supplies,training,
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By *iscuits8Man
over a year ago
Meath / Dublin / Birmingham |
^ Yep
Insurance costs, marketing fees, accounting fees, shop upkeep... there are loads of other expenses. A real bear of mine when someone just speculates the costs/profits involved in running a business they have zero experience of. |
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"Ah they make serious money for very little expenditure barbers especially a trim for €15 is 100% profit ..get any of the colours online for €5 n they charge ladies €80 plus
Back of the envelope stuff there....who pays rent,rates,water ESB,wages,supplies,training,
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This is the stuff people just don't see when looking at any business. Add in equipment, maintenance, insurance various income taxes.
A €15 euro haircut is certainly not 100% profit, far from it.
In a 10hr day a single barber needs to cut 20 heads to gross €300 and then pay all the days bills from that, fuck all left! |
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By *iscuits8Man
over a year ago
Meath / Dublin / Birmingham |
"Oh we pay those Bill's in all walks of life and dont get tips ..ah I just commenting it's not a bug bearer tbh"
But business owners like this pay them on the double.
Morgtage/rent for their own home + the business. Heating/electricity for own home + business. Insurance for own home + business.. and so on. They are really not taking much for themselves from a €15 haircut! |
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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago
Somewhere in Co. Down |
"Oh we pay those Bill's in all walks of life and dont get tips ..ah I just commenting it's not a bug bearer tbh
But business owners like this pay them on the double.
Morgtage/rent for their own home + the business. Heating/electricity for own home + business. Insurance for own home + business.. and so on. They are really not taking much for themselves from a €15 haircut!"
And ? That's their choice to run the business just like any other business who rent premises if they weren't making money they wouldn't do it or would raise their prices. It doesn't mean people should tip everyone who does a job for them on too on the price of the service provided. Tipping should be a personal choice of the customer and not an expectation of the business.
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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago
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"I never tip my hairdresser as he is loaded lol but I always tip the junior, for washing my hair, making me tea etc. they deserve it more as they’re given so little pay for so much work"
Its different for women I assume that a few different people could be looking after you in the hairdresser's ( never been inside a ladies hairdresser's)
Men only have one person as far as I know |
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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago
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The one I find most awkward is the guy that brings your suitcase to your hotel room
I mean I want to wheel my own case to the room ....thats why it has wheels ffs
But no...lets put the case on a big brass trolly and bring it to your room
I know how to open a door and a curtain with an ipad ....and even how to make my own coffee now here's a fiver to leave cause I just want you out of my room ....please |
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By *iscuits8Man
over a year ago
Meath / Dublin / Birmingham |
"Oh we pay those Bill's in all walks of life and dont get tips ..ah I just commenting it's not a bug bearer tbh
But business owners like this pay them on the double.
Morgtage/rent for their own home + the business. Heating/electricity for own home + business. Insurance for own home + business.. and so on. They are really not taking much for themselves from a €15 haircut!
And ? That's their choice to run the business just like any other business who rent premises if they weren't making money they wouldn't do it or would raise their prices. It doesn't mean people should tip everyone who does a job for them on too on the price of the service provided. Tipping should be a personal choice of the customer and not an expectation of the business.
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Oh I'm not disagreeing with that at all it was more still responding to the line about the full €15 from a fella's haircut being profit! |
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"The one I find most awkward is the guy that brings your suitcase to your hotel room
I mean I want to wheel my own case to the room ....thats why it has wheels ffs
But no...lets put the case on a big brass trolly and bring it to your room
I know how to open a door and a curtain with an ipad ....and even how to make my own coffee now here's a fiver to leave cause I just want you out of my room ....please "
Must be staying in 5 star hotels for that treatment!!! |
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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago
Somewhere in Co. Down |
"Oh we pay those Bill's in all walks of life and dont get tips ..ah I just commenting it's not a bug bearer tbh
But business owners like this pay them on the double.
Morgtage/rent for their own home + the business. Heating/electricity for own home + business. Insurance for own home + business.. and so on. They are really not taking much for themselves from a €15 haircut!
And ? That's their choice to run the business just like any other business who rent premises if they weren't making money they wouldn't do it or would raise their prices. It doesn't mean people should tip everyone who does a job for them on too on the price of the service provided. Tipping should be a personal choice of the customer and not an expectation of the business.
Oh I'm not disagreeing with that at all it was more still responding to the line about the full €15 from a fella's haircut being profit!"
It must be tho or else it would be more expensive .There is no one going to work their business at a loss if they have any sense that is . |
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You'd think prices should be set - I mean I've only went to hairdressers once in a last decade and spent £130 on 3 inch trim off my ends and root touch up
Something that I have been doing myself since I was 14 without any disasters.
I do appreciate creative skill and wouldn't have an issue with paying that money for something amazing, that would have made me go "wow"... but with a thing that is so temporary like a hairstyle (1-2 weeks max of it looking fresh, until roots grow out again) I really can't see how tipping is justifiable and even moreso how much are you supposed to tip if you do? I mean with barbers £3 is perfectly acceptable, but you can't leave £3 on a £130 bill without looking like a cheapskate, so do you leave £10, £20, £50?
(Most hairdressers and barbers in my area rent their chairs, not work for a set wage).
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By *iscuits8Man
over a year ago
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"Oh we pay those Bill's in all walks of life and dont get tips ..ah I just commenting it's not a bug bearer tbh
But business owners like this pay them on the double.
Morgtage/rent for their own home + the business. Heating/electricity for own home + business. Insurance for own home + business.. and so on. They are really not taking much for themselves from a €15 haircut!
And ? That's their choice to run the business just like any other business who rent premises if they weren't making money they wouldn't do it or would raise their prices. It doesn't mean people should tip everyone who does a job for them on too on the price of the service provided. Tipping should be a personal choice of the customer and not an expectation of the business.
Oh I'm not disagreeing with that at all it was more still responding to the line about the full €15 from a fella's haircut being profit!
It must be tho or else it would be more expensive .There is no one going to work their business at a loss if they have any sense that is ."
They vary I suppose. My haircut actually costs just under €15! They're a quick in and out job though, which I like... there are usually 2-3 seats on the go, but most times I am done in 10 mins. So they're getting 4-6 people in each seat per hour when the going is good which when you're including the tips could be making in or around €70-100 for every hour in each seat. Not bad! |
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"Oh we pay those Bill's in all walks of life and dont get tips ..ah I just commenting it's not a bug bearer tbh
But business owners like this pay them on the double.
Morgtage/rent for their own home + the business. Heating/electricity for own home + business. Insurance for own home + business.. and so on. They are really not taking much for themselves from a €15 haircut!
And ? That's their choice to run the business just like any other business who rent premises if they weren't making money they wouldn't do it or would raise their prices. It doesn't mean people should tip everyone who does a job for them on too on the price of the service provided. Tipping should be a personal choice of the customer and not an expectation of the business.
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Absolutely, no business should ever expect to or be allowed to use tips as an excuse for poor wages!...A shite mentality that creeps in from the states! |
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My barber has told me what he is making after overheads including insurance, electric, laundry etc.
He was a one man business until about 3 years ago and went into partnership with a friend. They have 3 chairs and rent the third out.
They have closed for 2 weeks this year already and been on foreign holidays.
They have been using the booking apps for 3 years and don't accept walk-ins and every standard appt is 20 mins but most are out in 10.
A normal day is 60-70 customers between them at £10 per cut plus extras on top.
That's £3500 per five day week and overheads total £1500-£1600 and the rest is profit split 2 ways. |
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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago
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"My barber has told me what he is making after overheads including insurance, electric, laundry etc.
He was a one man business until about 3 years ago and went into partnership with a friend. They have 3 chairs and rent the third out.
They have closed for 2 weeks this year already and been on foreign holidays.
They have been using the booking apps for 3 years and don't accept walk-ins and every standard appt is 20 mins but most are out in 10.
A normal day is 60-70 customers between them at £10 per cut plus extras on top.
That's £3500 per five day week and overheads total £1500-£1600 and the rest is profit split 2 ways. "
I know you say profit but its wages that you pay yourself so you pay taxes,National Insurance....don't know the rates so haven't a clue what they come out with
My barbers is owned by someone that doesn't work there as he has a few shops
So I'm tipping someone thats an employee thats carried out a service
The only people I'd normally tip would be
Barber
Waiter or waitress in a restaurant
I remember asking in a thread before about tipping a barman which seems to be standard in the states ....I've never done it
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"My barber has told me what he is making after overheads including insurance, electric, laundry etc.
He was a one man business until about 3 years ago and went into partnership with a friend. They have 3 chairs and rent the third out.
They have closed for 2 weeks this year already and been on foreign holidays.
They have been using the booking apps for 3 years and don't accept walk-ins and every standard appt is 20 mins but most are out in 10.
A normal day is 60-70 customers between them at £10 per cut plus extras on top.
That's £3500 per five day week and overheads total £1500-£1600 and the rest is profit split 2 ways.
I know you say profit but its wages that you pay yourself so you pay taxes,National Insurance....don't know the rates so haven't a clue what they come out with
My barbers is owned by someone that doesn't work there as he has a few shops
So I'm tipping someone thats an employee thats carried out a service
The only people I'd normally tip would be
Barber
Waiter or waitress in a restaurant
I remember asking in a thread before about tipping a barman which seems to be standard in the states ....I've never done it
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That's what they take home after all overheads and taxes |
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Coming from someone who worked 20+ years in the business, tips were always appreciated, and mostly well deserved! Most stylists need not only hairdressing skills but also the skills of a therapist. Regular clients are most stylists bread and butter so there were countless times id give up breaks, start early, finish late etc for a regular client, most times that particular client would be very grateful and leave a tip. Its not taken for granted but always appreciated. |
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Yeah, we tip both hairdresser and barber. Tbh people that don't tip is a bit of a red flag. We got really turned off potential fun with a couple that mentioned 'Someone needs to do backflip to earn a tip' |
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"Thats a good wage to pay yourself
Wonder if female hairdressers get more with the higher charges to the customer "
Coming up to Christmas is the only time my partner makes a decent wage but my god she is broke up earning it. Shoulder trouble, back pains and legs cramping from been on their feet for 12 or more hours a day.
And Redhot you're so right, the emotions herself gies through hearing what people tell her. She would never say but there's days where she's an emotional wreck from listening to and helping people.
She wouldn't change it for the world as she loves her trade, clients and staff but people's opinions are so far wrong about earnings. Those barbers earning that money are very lucky, more power to them but they're definitely outliers to the norm!
And whoever said ye can get colour for a 5er, I can assure you it's more than that for a quality product! There's so much more to it than mixing a bottle of color and slapping it on.
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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago
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"Thats a good wage to pay yourself
Wonder if female hairdressers get more with the higher charges to the customer
Coming up to Christmas is the only time my partner makes a decent wage but my god she is broke up earning it. Shoulder trouble, back pains and legs cramping from been on their feet for 12 or more hours a day.
And Redhot you're so right, the emotions herself gies through hearing what people tell her. She would never say but there's days where she's an emotional wreck from listening to and helping people.
She wouldn't change it for the world as she loves her trade, clients and staff but people's opinions are so far wrong about earnings. Those barbers earning that money are very lucky, more power to them but they're definitely outliers to the norm!
And whoever said ye can get colour for a 5er, I can assure you it's more than that for a quality product! There's so much more to it than mixing a bottle of color and slapping it on.
Jesus I'm starting to sound like a hairdresser now "
You didn't ask ...are you going anywhere nice this year on holiday |
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"Thats a good wage to pay yourself
Wonder if female hairdressers get more with the higher charges to the customer
Coming up to Christmas is the only time my partner makes a decent wage but my god she is broke up earning it. Shoulder trouble, back pains and legs cramping from been on their feet for 12 or more hours a day.
And Redhot you're so right, the emotions herself gies through hearing what people tell her. She would never say but there's days where she's an emotional wreck from listening to and helping people.
She wouldn't change it for the world as she loves her trade, clients and staff but people's opinions are so far wrong about earnings. Those barbers earning that money are very lucky, more power to them but they're definitely outliers to the norm!
And whoever said ye can get colour for a 5er, I can assure you it's more than that for a quality product! There's so much more to it than mixing a bottle of color and slapping it on.
Jesus I'm starting to sound like a hairdresser now
You didn't ask ...are you going anywhere nice this year on holiday "
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"My haircut costs €17 and I leave a twenty
In fairness its a good services and you don't really notice €3 every month.
£17 for a haircut???!!!!! Blimey ??
I also tip serving staff in a restaurant if I'm eating out after checking to see where the cash goes that I tip....won't eat in a restaurant that uses tips to make up basic wages like The Ivy in Dublin "
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Literally just met my barber in a coffee shop and told him I had been having a discussion about careers and earnings and running a business.
He works a 52 hour week. Closed Monday, 9-7 Tuesday and Wednesday, 9-9 Thursday and Friday and 9-5 Saturday.
They rent two floors between the barbers and another business upstairs run by a family member. It's a 3 year old building so maintenance charges aren't extortionate.
They have reduced the wage they take each week so they have a healthier business account but are still taking home £700 after tax.
One important point though is that they are both in their early 30's and still living at home with parents so apart from the business they don't have any other outgoings. |
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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago
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"Literally just met my barber in a coffee shop and told him I had been having a discussion about careers and earnings and running a business.
He works a 52 hour week. Closed Monday, 9-7 Tuesday and Wednesday, 9-9 Thursday and Friday and 9-5 Saturday.
They rent two floors between the barbers and another business upstairs run by a family member. It's a 3 year old building so maintenance charges aren't extortionate.
They have reduced the wage they take each week so they have a healthier business account but are still taking home £700 after tax.
One important point though is that they are both in their early 30's and still living at home with parents so apart from the business they don't have any other outgoings. "
Hope he paid the tip in the coffee shop |
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By *oserMan
over a year ago
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"Coming from someone who worked 20+ years in the business, tips were always appreciated, and mostly well deserved! Most stylists need not only hairdressing skills but also the skills of a therapist. Regular clients are most stylists bread and butter so there were countless times id give up breaks, start early, finish late etc for a regular client, most times that particular client would be very grateful and leave a tip. Its not taken for granted but always appreciated. "
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"My barber has told me what he is making after overheads including insurance, electric, laundry etc.
He was a one man business until about 3 years ago and went into partnership with a friend. They have 3 chairs and rent the third out.
They have closed for 2 weeks this year already and been on foreign holidays.
They have been using the booking apps for 3 years and don't accept walk-ins and every standard appt is 20 mins but most are out in 10.
A normal day is 60-70 customers between them at £10 per cut plus extras on top.
That's £3500 per five day week and overheads total £1500-£1600 and the rest is profit split 2 ways. "
I’m sure they’d be happy to know your going around blabbering their business and profits etc on a public forum
You really need to take a reality check before the reality bites you in the hole
If you were mouthing about my business in public you’d be getting a |
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"My barber has told me what he is making after overheads including insurance, electric, laundry etc.
He was a one man business until about 3 years ago and went into partnership with a friend. They have 3 chairs and rent the third out.
They have closed for 2 weeks this year already and been on foreign holidays.
They have been using the booking apps for 3 years and don't accept walk-ins and every standard appt is 20 mins but most are out in 10.
A normal day is 60-70 customers between them at £10 per cut plus extras on top.
That's £3500 per five day week and overheads total £1500-£1600 and the rest is profit split 2 ways.
I’m sure they’d be happy to know your going around blabbering their business and profits etc on a public forum
You really need to take a reality check before the reality bites you in the hole
If you were mouthing about my business in public you’d be getting a "
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