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"So what do you think it is "
Ummm...being born here?. But seriously. We are able to laugh at our selves. We understand all types of wit and sarcasm. We always side with the underdog and the oppressed. Regardless of religion etc. There has never been a major conflict without Irish volunteers. There is very view humanatarian programs without our potato heads being involved. |
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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago
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Formerly pervasively seen in Ireland was an attitude of antiauthorianism the aetiology of which was a consequence of having been an oppressed, colonised and subjugated people; by our adjacent neighbours.
This curmudgeonly stance is still evident today in antisocial behaviour towards public assets, that formerly were under the direct control of the coloniser, but are now actually OUR public assets
This contrarianism is a core feature of the Irish character; in my opinion! |
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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago
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"Hating the Brits...but supporting Liverpool, Man utd ,Celtic,Arsenal etc,etc ...every week in the pub wearing their jerseys or going to the matches "
Michael Cusack, founder of the ubiquitous Irish GAA wanted to supplant this fascination with British sporting traditions with traditional Irish sports.
It is evident from the number of GAA county tops that are openly worn in the North that Cusack's plan is gradually working; and that Soccer tops are being edged out, at least in Nationalist areas.
GAA is almost unheard of in Loyalist/Unionist areas of the North, and there support for wealthy soccer clubs such as MU, Arsenal, et al is still pervasive. |
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From an egyptian who has been living here for 4 years and I can say I had a bit of a good exposure to different cultures, I can say that the irish people are very welcoming and very humantirian. I never felt there is ice to be broken, instantly blended in and felt like home. Super friendly, embracing life, always looking for a 90 craic  |
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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago
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"From an egyptian who has been living here for 4 years and I can say I had a bit of a good exposure to different cultures, I can say that the irish people are very welcoming and very humantirian. I never felt there is ice to be broken, instantly blended in and felt like home. Super friendly, embracing life, always looking for a 90 craic "
As in many cultures, the Irish are friendly to foreigners, but if you scratch below the surface there are a multitude of underlying animosities, tensions, long-standing feuds, jealousies, etc.
But that is true of the human condition worldwide. |
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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago
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"Not a lot. We really aren't much different to our closest neighbours. "
A lot of Irish have an underlying feeling of inferiority, but within the next neighbourhood there still exists a class system the central tenets of which are: superiority, condescension, a god-give right to rule (racism) and a patronising attitude to the formerly subjugated and dispossessed 'tenants'
The working classes are fairly similar, but the uppermost echelons are highly distinguishable. |
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"Not a lot. We really aren't much different to our closest neighbours.
A lot of Irish have an underlying feeling of inferiority, but within the next neighbourhood there still exists a class system the central tenets of which are: superiority, condescension, a god-give right to rule (racism) and a patronising attitude to the formerly subjugated and dispossessed 'tenants'
The working classes are fairly similar, but the uppermost echelons are highly distinguishable."
I'd disagree. The richest at the at the top of Irish society really aren't much different to those at the top of British society. Irish peoole are well able to be condescending, superior, and racist. |
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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago
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I'd disagree. The richest at the at the top of Irish society really aren't much different to those at the top of British society. Irish people are well able to be condescending, superior, and racist."
Elites the world over see themselves as 'superior' and behave accordingly.
It epytomises the old adage:
"Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts, absolutely." |
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I'd disagree. The richest at the at the top of Irish society really aren't much different to those at the top of British society. Irish people are well able to be condescending, superior, and racist.
Elites the world over see themselves as 'superior' and behave accordingly.
It epytomises the old adage:
"Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts, absolutely.""
Erm... absolutely. That applies just as much in Irish society as it does in British. |
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"Hating the Brits...but supporting Liverpool, Man utd ,Celtic,Arsenal etc,etc ...every week in the pub wearing their jerseys or going to the matches
Michael Cusack, founder of the ubiquitous Irish GAA wanted to supplant this fascination with British sporting traditions with traditional Irish sports.
It is evident from the number of GAA county tops that are openly worn in the North that Cusack's plan is gradually working; and that Soccer tops are being edged out, at least in Nationalist areas.
GAA is almost unheard of in Loyalist/Unionist areas of the North, and there support for wealthy soccer clubs such as MU, Arsenal, et al is still pervasive."
Soccer, Rugby football and Cricket were always branded as 'garrison games' and deemed inappropriate for any true Irishman to play.
That the Garrisons themselves were mainly Irishmen was ignored.
(When the lectures start..... I know!) |
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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago
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"Tayto Crisps 
But then the fights start as to the real Tayto or the horrible yellow ones "
The next time I'm in Dublin, I must buy a packet or two of the southern product; from memory they are VERY different. But which is best- a moot point. |
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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago
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The crucial fact that we are nonaligned, militarily gives us additional kudos abroad; which is probably why Irish troops from Oglaigh na hEireann are used for peace-keeping roles in trouble-spots, such as The Lebanon, Chad, Congo, etc.
Our independence is valued and respected internationally. |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
kildare |
"Not a lot. We really aren't much different to our closest neighbours.
A lot of Irish have an underlying feeling of inferiority, but within the next neighbourhood there still exists a class system the central tenets of which are: superiority, condescension, a god-give right to rule (racism) and a patronising attitude to the formerly subjugated and dispossessed 'tenants'
The working classes are fairly similar, but the uppermost echelons are highly distinguishable.
I'd disagree. The richest at the at the top of Irish society really aren't much different to those at the top of British society. Irish peoole are well able to be condescending, superior, and racist."
If you were using any other nation in your comparison to us I'd agree but Britain?
The top of their society and the remnants of their aristocracy are on a different level to the rest of the world when it comes to condescending superiority.
Racists are racists everywhere tho |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
kildare |
"Formerly pervasively seen in Ireland was an attitude of antiauthorianism the aetiology of which was a consequence of having been an oppressed, colonised and subjugated people; by our adjacent neighbours.
This curmudgeonly stance is still evident today in antisocial behaviour towards public assets, that formerly were under the direct control of the coloniser, but are now actually OUR public assets
This contrarianism is a core feature of the Irish character; in my opinion!"
Came here to say we have a healthy disdain for authority
Beat me to it |
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"Hating the Brits...but supporting Liverpool, Man utd ,Celtic,Arsenal etc,etc ...every week in the pub wearing their jerseys or going to the matches
Michael Cusack, founder of the ubiquitous Irish GAA wanted to supplant this fascination with British sporting traditions with traditional Irish sports.
It is evident from the number of GAA county tops that are openly worn in the North that Cusack's plan is gradually working; and that Soccer tops are being edged out, at least in Nationalist areas.
GAA is almost unheard of in Loyalist/Unionist areas of the North, and there support for wealthy soccer clubs such as MU, Arsenal, et al is still pervasive."
Its not a good thing to be so sad and insular as the GAA mindset |
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"Formerly pervasively seen in Ireland was an attitude of antiauthorianism the aetiology of which was a consequence of having been an oppressed, colonised and subjugated people; by our adjacent neighbours.
This curmudgeonly stance is still evident today in antisocial behaviour towards public assets, that formerly were under the direct control of the coloniser, but are now actually OUR public assets
This contrarianism is a core feature of the Irish character; in my opinion!"
Posted from Co. Down?! |
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You’re strange funeral traditions first funeral today my God it was bloody weird
Wtf
Poor family standing for hours meeting people who they don’t really know and the body for all to see
Found it strange and can’t put my finger on the right word
It’s personal private yet the whole town turns out
Very public
It’s it’s it’s unwielding morbid
Even freaky
And I seen the dead before as in Veteran |
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"You’re strange funeral traditions first funeral today my God it was bloody weird
Wtf
Poor family standing for hours meeting people who they don’t really know and the body for all to see
Found it strange and can’t put my finger on the right word
It’s personal private yet the whole town turns out
Very public
It’s it’s it’s unwielding morbid
Even freaky
And I seen the dead before as in Veteran"
It's a show of support and community.
Maybe it's a little superficial but I think it's one of our best qualities. |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
kildare |
"You’re strange funeral traditions first funeral today my God it was bloody weird
Wtf
Poor family standing for hours meeting people who they don’t really know and the body for all to see
Found it strange and can’t put my finger on the right word
It’s personal private yet the whole town turns out
Very public
It’s it’s it’s unwielding morbid
Even freaky
And I seen the dead before as in Veteran"
The family mightnt have known some of the people but the people would have known the person being buried and they are coming to pay their respects to the family.
The body on display is a Catholic thing.
You say you've seen the dead before as a veteran,this leaves many questions.
Where are you from?
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By (user no longer on site)
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"You’re strange funeral traditions first funeral today my God it was bloody weird
Wtf
Poor family standing for hours meeting people who they don’t really know and the body for all to see
Found it strange and can’t put my finger on the right word
It’s personal private yet the whole town turns out
Very public
It’s it’s it’s unwielding morbid
Even freaky
And I seen the dead before as in Veteran"
A wake is to support the living and respect the dead, I have been at a few where we had a few songs, it was that families tradition and highly emotional
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"The crucial fact that we are nonaligned, militarily gives us additional kudos abroad; which is probably why Irish troops from Oglaigh na hEireann are used for peace-keeping roles in trouble-spots, such as The Lebanon, Chad, Congo, etc.
Our independence is valued and respected internationally."
Band of heavily armed religious zealots
" today we are going to kill you all, imperialist invaders"
Paddy on UN checkpoint
" grand, will i put the kettle on and lets drink chai"
Heavily armed guys
"eh, ok, we must accept hospitality when its offered, maybe we'll start the war tomorrow"
We are great diplomats(when abroad) |
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"You’re strange funeral traditions first funeral today my God it was bloody weird
Wtf
Poor family standing for hours meeting people who they don’t really know and the body for all to see
Found it strange and can’t put my finger on the right word
It’s personal private yet the whole town turns out
Very public
It’s it’s it’s unwielding morbid
Even freaky
And I seen the dead before as in Veteran"
An Irish wake is one of our mosf enduring traditions. |
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"You’re strange funeral traditions first funeral today my God it was bloody weird
Wtf
Poor family standing for hours meeting people who they don’t really know and the body for all to see
Found it strange and can’t put my finger on the right word
It’s personal private yet the whole town turns out
Very public
It’s it’s it’s unwielding morbid
Even freaky
And I seen the dead before as in Veteran"
Got to agree. Turning up to the funeral of someone I never knew is a bizarre idea. |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
kildare |
"You’re strange funeral traditions first funeral today my God it was bloody weird
Wtf
Poor family standing for hours meeting people who they don’t really know and the body for all to see
Found it strange and can’t put my finger on the right word
It’s personal private yet the whole town turns out
Very public
It’s it’s it’s unwielding morbid
Even freaky
And I seen the dead before as in Veteran
Got to agree. Turning up to the funeral of someone I never knew is a bizarre idea."
Why did you 2 go to your respective funerals if you didn't know the people involved or don't understand the meaning of it? |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
kildare |
"I was advised it was what people were expected to do. It seems quite weird as an outsider though."
How the English does it with no celebration of the person and so long after death,up to a month,seems weird to us.
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"I was advised it was what people were expected to do. It seems quite weird as an outsider though.
How the English does it with no celebration of the person and so long after death,up to a month,seems weird to us.
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Why do you think the English don't celebrate the person who died? |
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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago
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Lots of people go to funerals of people they never knew to be seen ....like politicians or if its a friends family
One of my work colleagues goes to a funeral of anyone that he vaguely knew of so that people wouldn't talk about him for missing it ....he's a professional mourner at this stage like those Italian elderly ladies that dress in Black and cry |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
kildare |
"I was advised it was what people were expected to do. It seems quite weird as an outsider though.
How the English does it with no celebration of the person and so long after death,up to a month,seems weird to us.
Why do you think the English don't celebrate the person who died? "
Small funeral family only mostly
After burial everybody goes home.
Where is the celebration?
And what's with the month after death all about?
Do they leave a sufficient amount of time so that nobody gets emotional,heaven forbid |
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I've been to 2 English, and I think 3 Irish funerals. The English ones have been exclusively friends and family, and neither were held a very long time after the person died. Both within a week or so. The Irish ones were small town rural Ireland and it seems that literally the whole town turned up. Also I had a neighbour knock on our door (on a different occasion) telling us that there was a funeral procession coming past the house and we needed to come out and stand by our door as they passed. Very different traditions. |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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"I've been to 2 English, and I think 3 Irish funerals. The English ones have been exclusively friends and family, and neither were held a very long time after the person died. Both within a week or so. The Irish ones were small town rural Ireland and it seems that literally the whole town turned up. Also I had a neighbour knock on our door (on a different occasion) telling us that there was a funeral procession coming past the house and we needed to come out and stand by our door as they passed. Very different traditions. "
Closer communities here
Our big funerals and weddings are a big reason for that. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I was advised it was what people were expected to do. It seems quite weird as an outsider though.
How the English does it with no celebration of the person and so long after death,up to a month,seems weird to us.
Why do you think the English don't celebrate the person who died?
Small funeral family only mostly
After burial everybody goes home.
Where is the celebration?
And what's with the month after death all about?
Do they leave a sufficient amount of time so that nobody gets emotional,heaven forbid"
A long wait is often due to pure logistics. It can be quite difficult to secure the church/crematorium/burial ground or a person to officiate.
Any funerals I attended in the 15 years I lived in England very much included a celebration of the person's life and were very emotional affairs |
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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago
somewhere |
"Tayto Crisps
But then the fights start as to the real Tayto or the horrible yellow ones
Eh...wash yer mouth out!"
Hello ....you didn't say that when I gave you a six pack of the real Tayto cheese and onion |
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"Tayto Crisps
But then the fights start as to the real Tayto or the horrible yellow ones
Eh...wash yer mouth out!
Hello ....you didn't say that when I gave you a six pack of the real Tayto cheese and onion "
All in the name of research  |
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By *oo32Man
over a year ago
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Storytelling
Songs
Our emblem
800 years...but we still support English teams and watch English TV and listen to English music
Begrudgery
Being able to celebrate a funeral as much as a wedding,sometimes better
Bacon
1916
1919
1921
Festivals for pagan beliefs even though we claim to be religious
Whiskey |
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Thanks for all the replies
It’s just different cultures and how you look at things
First time found my self feeling sorry for the family been on display ( how I saw it )
Knew them very well and I was told it’s was the Irish way to show my sadness and respect
Which I wanted too
Just saw it with different eyes
Felt more sorry for the family |
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"I was advised it was what people were expected to do. It seems quite weird as an outsider though.
How the English does it with no celebration of the person and so long after death,up to a month,seems weird to us.
Why do you think the English don't celebrate the person who died?
Small funeral family only mostly
After burial everybody goes home.
Where is the celebration?
And what's with the month after death all about?
Do they leave a sufficient amount of time so that nobody gets emotional,heaven forbid
A long wait is often due to pure logistics. It can be quite difficult to secure the church/crematorium/burial ground or a person to officiate.
Any funerals I attended in the 15 years I lived in England very much included a celebration of the person's life and were very emotional affairs"
I think the Irish funeral is a total waste of time and money. Burn me and have a party afterwards is what I've told my family. Mrs  |
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"I was advised it was what people were expected to do. It seems quite weird as an outsider though.
How the English does it with no celebration of the person and so long after death,up to a month,seems weird to us.
Why do you think the English don't celebrate the person who died?
Small funeral family only mostly
After burial everybody goes home.
Where is the celebration?
And what's with the month after death all about?
Do they leave a sufficient amount of time so that nobody gets emotional,heaven forbid
A long wait is often due to pure logistics. It can be quite difficult to secure the church/crematorium/burial ground or a person to officiate.
Any funerals I attended in the 15 years I lived in England very much included a celebration of the person's life and were very emotional affairs
I think the Irish funeral is a total waste of time and money. Burn me and have a party afterwards is what I've told my family. Mrs "
I agree a big fire can't beat it  |
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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago
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Human beings, from my experience, are broadly identical the world over, havng descended from Lucy in the Great African Rift Valley several millions of years ago; and they then migrated from the so-called Dark Continent about 50,000 years in the past.
There are some superficial differences in the lives of tribes, ethnic groups and nations, but we are born, live and die almost identically.
The Irish character has been formed by having been sujugated by colonisation and by a disastrous famine in the 1840s that depleted the population by over 50% through death and enforced emigration.
The wounds from these events have still not healed and unconsciously contribute to the national Irish character.
The perverse influence of the Catholic Church has also left an aftertaste.
International travel is eroding the last vestiges of cultural differentiation and homogenising it into the American prototype. |
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Kids these days watch American YouTubers. They don't watch Irish TV. When this generation grows up they will be part of a homogeneous culture. The small number of differences will pretty much dissappear in time |
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