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By *ubal1 OP Man
over a year ago
Newry Down |
What personal privations would you be prepared to endure, for the next year, in order to assist the international sanctions against Vladimir Putin, which are designed to turn the Russian proletariat against him, and his unnecessary aggression against the Ukraine in the first instance.
Would you be prepared to turn off your central heating, completely?
Would you forego use of your car?
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over a year ago
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"What personal privations would you be prepared to endure, for the next year, in order to assist the international sanctions against Vladimir Putin, which are designed to turn the Russian proletariat against him, and his unnecessary aggression against the Ukraine in the first instance.
Would you be prepared to turn off your central heating, completely?
Would you forego use of your car?
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Heating has only been on once today as I'm down to the bottom of the tank. 340 quid for 2 litres but car tax and not are due, need the car to get to work.
Over 9000 homeless in this country yet We are going to take in up to 100,000 people, medical cards and social welfare and accommodation for them. Yet our terminally ill have to pay to park at the hospital for treatment.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm not sure that's an appropriate course of action here in the North considering the large majority of our oil and petroleum products are North Sea derived |
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By *3nsesMan
over a year ago
Dublin |
"What personal privations would you be prepared to endure, for the next year, in order to assist the international sanctions against Vladimir Putin, which are designed to turn the Russian proletariat against him, and his unnecessary aggression against the Ukraine in the first instance.
Would you be prepared to turn off your central heating, completely?
Would you forego use of your car?
Heating has only been on once today as I'm down to the bottom of the tank. 340 quid for 2 litres but car tax and not are due, need the car to get to work.
Over 9000 homeless in this country yet We are going to take in up to 100,000 people, medical cards and social welfare and accommodation for them. Yet our terminally ill have to pay to park at the hospital for treatment.
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If I was terminally ill I'd be more than happy to pay to park at the hospital rather then refuse entry to people from a country that is being destroyed by war. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What personal privations would you be prepared to endure, for the next year, in order to assist the international sanctions against Vladimir Putin, which are designed to turn the Russian proletariat against him, and his unnecessary aggression against the Ukraine in the first instance.
Would you be prepared to turn off your central heating, completely?
Would you forego use of your car?
Heating has only been on once today as I'm down to the bottom of the tank. 340 quid for 2 litres but car tax and not are due, need the car to get to work.
Over 9000 homeless in this country yet We are going to take in up to 100,000 people, medical cards and social welfare and accommodation for them. Yet our terminally ill have to pay to park at the hospital for treatment.
If I was terminally ill I'd be more than happy to pay to park at the hospital rather then refuse entry to people from a country that is being destroyed by war. "
Oh I agree we should take people in abd it's amazing what we have raised in the last week and a half but it's such a shame when our country can't support our own |
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By *ubal1 OP Man
over a year ago
Newry Down |
"I'm not sure that's an appropriate course of action here in the North considering the large majority of our oil and petroleum products are North Sea derived"
I don't know if that is true; but crude oil and refined products in UK and Ireland are going to be in more limited supply, thereby pushing up the price to wholesalers and consumers. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm not sure that's an appropriate course of action here in the North considering the large majority of our oil and petroleum products are North Sea derived"
The UK has been a nett importer of oil for over 15 years and also for Gas by about 6 years or so.
The North Sea boom is long gone and is dwindling daily.
The problem for Ireland is that our gas, apart from the Corrib gas field, is purchased in Europe and transits through the uk to the subsea supply pipelines to reach the island of Ireland.
The worry is that in the event of a prolonged energy shortage the UK is not going to allow gas to transit to the island of Ireland if they have shortages in mainland UK.
Worse again burning turf, timber or coal is on the way out as will chimneys on new houses. That would be all very fine provided we had an indigenous alternative reliable energy source. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm not sure that's an appropriate course of action here in the North considering the large majority of our oil and petroleum products are North Sea derived
The UK has been a nett importer of oil for over 15 years and also for Gas by about 6 years or so.
The North Sea boom is long gone and is dwindling daily.
The problem for Ireland is that our gas, apart from the Corrib gas field, is purchased in Europe and transits through the uk to the subsea supply pipelines to reach the island of Ireland.
The worry is that in the event of a prolonged energy shortage the UK is not going to allow gas to transit to the island of Ireland if they have shortages in mainland UK.
Worse again burning turf, timber or coal is on the way out as will chimneys on new houses. That would be all very fine provided we had an indigenous alternative reliable energy source. "
Of course we import, however the majority of our oil comes from the North Sea and Norway, not Russia. We don't have the same level of reliance on Russian product as the EU. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I am afraid sanctions will push the nationalistic agenda ever further to Putins gain, I hope I am wrong. worrying about our own fuel is understandable but nothing compared to having to leave most behind to protect your kids, leave your house belongings other loved ones ,the safety of your own home, i dont mind to put an extra sweater on tbh |
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I'm expecting to have to buy local timber and light a fire more, because the cost of home heating oil is going mental. If need be ill go chop it myself. Maybe buy thicker duvets so the heating can go off at night. Unnecessary journey will be reduced.
I am more than comfortable doing all this and more. There are people in Europe now bombed out of their homes entirely. We can undergo some slight discomfort. |
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"Ireland dosnt depend on russian oil or gas / buy a electric car and you wont need petrol. Putin will be shot in the next few days hopefully,his own people will get him."
We pay the market rate for oil/gas. What Russia are doing has and will effect the market rates and therefore effect us. Most of our electricity is still generated using fossil fuels. |
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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago
on the hill NordWest of |
I don't really understand the logic behind this post. Aren't we all supporting the sanctions already by having to deal with spiralling living costs? The fuel shortage will have a knock on effect on everything. Having to turn off your central heating or forgo your car has more to do with your personal financial situation than support.
Do you mean how much can we bear before people start opposing the sanctions? |
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We have more than enough renewable energy in this country but they don't want to harness it. The west and southwest coasts would produce enough electricity from harnessing the wave energy we could sell the surplus to Europe. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What personal privations would you be prepared to endure, for the next year, in order to assist the international sanctions against Vladimir Putin, which are designed to turn the Russian proletariat against him, and his unnecessary aggression against the Ukraine in the first instance.
Would you be prepared to turn off your central heating, completely?
Would you forego use of your car?
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We may have no choice , the cost of home heating oil is gone out of some people's reach , and essential journey's will have to considered for the low to middle income earners , the rich will not be affected, they will still fill up their cars and home heating tanks |
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By *ind PaddyMan
over a year ago
South County Dublin |
It is terrible what is happening in Ukraine, I just hope Putin will come to his senses and withdraw his troops. I wonder how many Russian soldiers want to be in the war. Always wondered why the ESB never put windmills down in Poolbeg power station there is always a breeze there and also generate electricity from the waves, the tide comes in twice a day and ships entering and leaving the port create waves. I just hope it is not a long war and I hope the Polish planes are given to the Ukrainian airforce.. |
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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago
Somewhere in Co. Down |
"I don't really understand the logic behind this post. Aren't we all supporting the sanctions already by having to deal with spiralling living costs? The fuel shortage will have a knock on effect on everything. Having to turn off your central heating or forgo your car has more to do with your personal financial situation than support.
Do you mean how much can we bear before people start opposing the sanctions? "
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By *ubal1 OP Man
over a year ago
Newry Down |
The availability of fossil fuels such as gas and oil (and many other food commodities such as wheat to manufacture our bread and breakfast cereals) will be significantly less over the coming year plus, because these products are bought on the world market
It's a simple case of supply and demand which will drive up prices, as is evidently already the case with diesel fuel and petrol which will rise to £2 per litre within weeks.
My question is to what extend would you be prepared to reduce your personal consumption of fuel in order to mitigate this price increase.
Those of our citizens at the lower socioeconomic strata will be able to live in some basic comfort by prices being kept lower from lower overall demand.
The upper echelon of society will be unaffected by these price increases, but their behaviour, their purchasing decisions, will have a direct impact on those less fortunate.
Purcashing commodities from unstable economic systems, such as the former Soviet Union, which has been governed autocratically since the 1917 revolution, was extremely unwise for which we will pay dearly in the longer term.
For such a windy nation, we have been tardy in exploiting this relatively free natural resource, as is also the case with wave power on the west coast.
Nuclear energy is too expensive, in capital costs for such a small nation.
Nuclear Tokamak technology is at the development stage in France and may be commercially available in the next century. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"When others start to contribute to improving my minimum wage or paying my bills I might then be in a position to consider options. "
i feel so sorry for you, talk to your employer lad if you feel you deserve more
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"The availability of fossil fuels such as gas and oil (and many other food commodities such as wheat to manufacture our bread and breakfast cereals) will be significantly less over the coming year plus, because these products are bought on the world market
It's a simple case of supply and demand which will drive up prices, as is evidently already the case with diesel fuel and petrol which will rise to £2 per litre within weeks.
My question is to what extend would you be prepared to reduce your personal consumption of fuel in order to mitigate this price increase.
Those of our citizens at the lower socioeconomic strata will be able to live in some basic comfort by prices being kept lower from lower overall demand.
The upper echelon of society will be unaffected by these price increases, but their behaviour, their purchasing decisions, will have a direct impact on those less fortunate.
Purcashing commodities from unstable economic systems, such as the former Soviet Union, which has been governed autocratically since the 1917 revolution, was extremely unwise for which we will pay dearly in the longer term.
For such a windy nation, we have been tardy in exploiting this relatively free natural resource, as is also the case with wave power on the west coast.
Nuclear energy is too expensive, in capital costs for such a small nation.
Nuclear Tokamak technology is at the development stage in France and may be commercially available in the next century."
Our n.i.m.b.y tendencies here have curtailed our development of new energy sources. I've argued here for more wind turbines and been shouted down by folks complaining about the noise (despite the 250m development distance limit). You can hardly do any new change that needs planning here without some vested interest getting knickers in a twist. The price for all that will become more and more apparent. |
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By *ubal1 OP Man
over a year ago
Newry Down |
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Our n.i.m.b.y tendencies here have curtailed our development of new energy sources. I've argued here for more wind turbines and been shouted down by folks complaining about the noise (despite the 250m development distance limit). You can hardly do any new change that needs planning here without some vested interest getting knickers in a twist. The price for all that will become more and more apparent. "
Renewables make perfect sense, whilst fossil energy sources that are available only once is madness.
Wind, solar, wave, biomass and also geothermal are developed technologies, that should be encouraged but the NIMBY, Not In My Back Yard, luddites are active everywhere, especially regarding wind turbines.
The escalating cost of fossil fuels, and their shortage in coming years will sway the argument in most instances. |
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By *ubal1 OP Man
over a year ago
Newry Down |
"On the school run this morning I passed several signs saying "No Solar Farm". We are doomed by our own stupidity
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Solar farms located on unproductive land or south-facing land that is unusable, for whatever reason, makes perfect sense.
Solar panels are increasing in efficiency in the same fashion as Moore's Law, which pertained to the speed of microprocessors in PCs. |
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By *dfabMan
over a year ago
Dunboyne |
Local farmer friend being offered decent money for 10yr deal for solar on his land and he can still have sheep on it. As far as he's concerned, it's free money, though he's a little annoyed that Facebook will be claiming it as part of their renewable energy sources but hey, it's a greener way to supply the data centers we all need |
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By *dfabMan
over a year ago
Dunboyne |
"Where can I contact solar guys to rent my land?"
Not being blessed with the details myself, sorry, they came to him as they were surveying the area.
If I find out more in next few days, I'll let you know |
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