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By *ateniteCouple
over a year ago
Youghal |
I don't believe there is in a religious sense but read an article by a guy called Aaron Freeman about the science of death and what a physicist might say at a funeral:
"You want a physicist to speak at your funeral. You want the physicist to talk to your grieving family about the conservation of energy, so they will understand that your energy has not died. You want the physicist to remind your sobbing mother about the first law of thermodynamics; that no energy gets created in the universe, and none is destroyed.
You want your mother to know that all your energy, every vibration, every Btu of heat, every wave of every particle that was her beloved child remains with her in this world. You want the physicist to tell your weeping father that amid energies of the cosmos, you gave as good as you got.
And at one point you’d hope that the physicist would step down from the pulpit and walk to your brokenhearted spouse there in the pew and tell him that all the photons that ever bounced off your face, all the particles whose paths were interrupted by your smile, by the touch of your hair, hundreds of trillions of particles, have raced off like children, their ways forever changed by you.
And as your widow rocks in the arms of a loving family, may the physicist let her know that all the photons that bounced from you were gathered in the particle detectors that are her eyes, that those photons created within her constellations of electromagnetically charged neurons whose energy will go on forever.
You can hope your family will examine the evidence and satisfy themselves that the science is sound and that they’ll be comforted to know your energy’s still around. According to the law of the conservation of energy, not a bit of you is gone; you’re just less orderly." |
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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago
Newry Down |
Belief within certain religious groups of life after death, is a collective delusion and a form of narcissism.
We are apes, animals, whose cognitive processes mostly exceed those of the apes from which we evolved
There is no creator, no after-life, no heaven nor hell; these are constructs fabrications that are illusory.
Some of our species like to think they are special and that this transient existence is followed by an afterlife.
This is an example of a mental illness called schizotypism, which is on the schizophrenia spectrum
However, diagnosis by a professional requires the presence of several criteria, but religiosity is not included, unless it is idiosyncratic.
If everyone else within your religion or culture believes in the afterlife, it is not madness, but if you alone have that bizarre belief, then it is insanity.
Apes don't believe in an afterlife; well they are unable to articulate that belief.
I am just an ape, the product of two other apes who are now deceased.
They believed in an afterlife; I do not. I am not being disloyal to them in my ability to think for myself. |
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It doesn't make sense that there's nothing after death. Energy can't be created nor destroyed so where does ones energy go when the body dies? That's the big question that we don't have the answer to. Do we continue as a conscious being remains to be seen but i don't think about it much. In a way I'm looking forward to seeing what happens, if anything. Mrs  |
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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago
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Your consciousness is a biochemical process that enables each person to comprehend their individual existence, to a greater or lesser extent.
When your body ceases to operate, all processes cease and decay commences immediately. Within a short time you start to rot, which produces foul smelling gases.
The biochemical processes within your cranium are solely that; your thoughts have no inherent energy.
Furthermore, there is no such thing as sin; no action is inherently right or wrong.
Society construes actions as right or wrong.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It doesn't make sense that there's nothing after death. Energy can't be created nor destroyed so where does ones energy go when the body dies? That's the big question that we don't have the answer to. Do we continue as a conscious being remains to be seen but i don't think about it much. In a way I'm looking forward to seeing what happens, if anything. Mrs "
I think our "energy" only continues in the sense of biochemical breakdown and if we "live on" in any way it is only by becoming food for other organisms |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I think its a comfort to most people especially if they've lost a loved one
I guess we'll never know the real answer "
I think it's memory's we hold on to when thinking about love ones. Don't believe we come back . We get one chance in live and then we died.
Would I like to start it all over again knowing what I know . No thanks . |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It doesn't make sense that there's nothing after death. Energy can't be created nor destroyed so where does ones energy go when the body dies? That's the big question that we don't have the answer to. Do we continue as a conscious being remains to be seen but i don't think about it much. In a way I'm looking forward to seeing what happens, if anything. Mrs
I think our "energy" only continues in the sense of biochemical breakdown and if we "live on" in any way it is only by becoming food for other organisms"
How it appears to me also, plus it's essentially narcissism that leads humans to grasp at the idea that we are somehow special and our lives have meaning |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think there is and that we come back again to do the same thing again, over and over
But saying everything we all have said ? No body ever came back to tell us, is there a heaven ? It must be well crowded !! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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What a topic to get people's opinions on , each to their own l suppose , if there are people who don't think there is , you Rock ..if there are people that think there is ..you Rock , there are many of those that do and don't , either way l won't burst their bubble, the way l look at it is if you are kind and caring in your life there's nothing more you can do , if there is life after we have no choice , if there's not once we were kind and caring there is nothing else we can do . |
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Personally I think when we die, that's it. While I absolutely love the physics speech and accept that as truth. The entity that is me, my personality, thoughts and memories will cease.
But having said that, I don't see any harm in people wanting to believe in something after death. If it brings even a crumb of comfort than who am I to take that away. Its not going to do any harm.
I love the line by Al pachino in the film stand up guys
They say we die twice. Once when the breath leaves our body, and once when the last person we know says our name |
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I would never have believed it before,but I do now.When my mother passed away almost 5 years ago I asked my sister shortly afterwards about going to a medium and trying to make a 'connection' with mam.So it turned out that she had actually gotten a name/number of this fella here in Cork.Now let me just say before going any further that I would have laughed,rudiculed and totally dismissed anybody who would have told me before about going to see a medium,clairvoyant,white witch or any psychic of any sort before,but the stuff we were both told could never have been possibly known to anyone outside of the family and we are constantly in touch with her thru him ever since.He explained this as the 'spirit world's and would refer to our passed 'loved ones' as our angels.It was comforting and nice to hear how our dear loved ones still look out for us and regardless of whatever views or opinions people may have,I am fully sure and of the belief that we do live on after death in one form or another.If anyone wants this person's name/number feel free to DM me and I'll give them as much info as possible. |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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"I would never have believed it before,but I do now.When my mother passed away almost 5 years ago I asked my sister shortly afterwards about going to a medium and trying to make a 'connection' with mam.So it turned out that she had actually gotten a name/number of this fella here in Cork.Now let me just say before going any further that I would have laughed,rudiculed and totally dismissed anybody who would have told me before about going to see a medium,clairvoyant,white witch or any psychic of any sort before,but the stuff we were both told could never have been possibly known to anyone outside of the family and we are constantly in touch with her thru him ever since.He explained this as the 'spirit world's and would refer to our passed 'loved ones' as our angels.It was comforting and nice to hear how our dear loved ones still look out for us and regardless of whatever views or opinions people may have,I am fully sure and of the belief that we do live on after death in one form or another.If anyone wants this person's name/number feel free to DM me and I'll give them as much info as possible."
The tricks and mind games "mediums" train in and use are well known by now.
You can do it yourself easily with a bit of learning.
And no they are not talking to people who have passed away |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
kildare |
"I don't believe I'm heaven and hell, gods abd devil's but I do believe there is something after death. What that is, I can't explain. "
How would there be a life after death if there was no god?
Who orchestrats it and planned this life after death if there is no god?
Life can evolve but life after death can not. |
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I went to a medium shorty after my mum died and I mean very recent.
At the time, I needed something grief works in mysterious ways. I never told anyone and literally went.... First thing she said to me was, "so you came I know you would".. I went weeks after my mums passing and my mum did believe in afterlife, I was sceptical to say the lease.
Without going on what was said it gave me comfort and certain things was said I could put closer on,that at rhe time of her passing would of eaten me up terribly.... did it help with my grief no but it helped me process it in a different way. |
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"I would never have believed it before,but I do now.When my mother passed away almost 5 years ago I asked my sister shortly afterwards about going to a medium and trying to make a 'connection' with mam.So it turned out that she had actually gotten a name/number of this fella here in Cork.Now let me just say before going any further that I would have laughed,rudiculed and totally dismissed anybody who would have told me before about going to see a medium,clairvoyant,white witch or any psychic of any sort before,but the stuff we were both told could never have been possibly known to anyone outside of the family and we are constantly in touch with her thru him ever since.He explained this as the 'spirit world's and would refer to our passed 'loved ones' as our angels.It was comforting and nice to hear how our dear loved ones still look out for us and regardless of whatever views or opinions people may have,I am fully sure and of the belief that we do live on after death in one form or another.If anyone wants this person's name/number feel free to DM me and I'll give them as much info as possible.
The tricks and mind games "mediums" train in and use are well known by now.
You can do it yourself easily with a bit of learning.
And no they are not talking to people who have passed away"
Mediums use a more refined version of the tricks that religions have used on us since medieval timed. |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
kildare |
"No. You die, you're buried, you rot just the same as any living organism. The soul and the afterlife are social constructs, a coping mechanism even."
The soul is a social construct?
Really.
Unlike those other living organisms you mention,human beings have souls,that is a fact not a social construct
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"No. You die, you're buried, you rot just the same as any living organism. The soul and the afterlife are social constructs, a coping mechanism even.
The soul is a social construct?
Really.
Unlike those other living organisms you mention,human beings have souls,that is a fact not a social construct
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Lols. Evidence pls |
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"I think whatever someone believes is non of my business and if it brings someone comfort then who am I to denigrate or ridicule. "
I enjoy this point of view... but its a bit of a fudge because there IS a right and a wrong answer. Not everyone is correct. There is one thing that does actually happen when we die. I don't think it does any harm talking about evidence based likelyhoods and probabilities though. |
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"I would never have believed it before,but I do now.When my mother passed away almost 5 years ago I asked my sister shortly afterwards about going to a medium and trying to make a 'connection' with mam.So it turned out that she had actually gotten a name/number of this fella here in Cork.Now let me just say before going any further that I would have laughed,rudiculed and totally dismissed anybody who would have told me before about going to see a medium,clairvoyant,white witch or any psychic of any sort before,but the stuff we were both told could never have been possibly known to anyone outside of the family and we are constantly in touch with her thru him ever since.He explained this as the 'spirit world's and would refer to our passed 'loved ones' as our angels.It was comforting and nice to hear how our dear loved ones still look out for us and regardless of whatever views or opinions people may have,I am fully sure and of the belief that we do live on after death in one form or another.If anyone wants this person's name/number feel free to DM me and I'll give them as much info as possible.
The tricks and mind games "mediums" train in and use are well known by now.
You can do it yourself easily with a bit of learning.
And no they are not talking to people who have passed away
Mediums use a more refined version of the tricks that religions have used on us since medieval timed. "
Not sure if you've been to a medium or not,but from my experience(I've been to this fella 4 times now)there have not been any tricks used.Come to think of it,there is no comparison whatsoever with religion and its methods. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think it’s a nice notion that there’s a life after death and it gives people comfort. I would like to think there is but realistically I do t think there is. Once you’re dead, you’re dead. |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
kildare |
"No. You die, you're buried, you rot just the same as any living organism. The soul and the afterlife are social constructs, a coping mechanism even.
The soul is a social construct?
Really.
Unlike those other living organisms you mention,human beings have souls,that is a fact not a social construct
Lols. Evidence pls"
Evidence of us having souls??
We are having this conversation
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
kildare |
"I think whatever someone believes is non of my business and if it brings someone comfort then who am I to denigrate or ridicule.
I enjoy this point of view... but its a bit of a fudge because there IS a right and a wrong answer. Not everyone is correct. There is one thing that does actually happen when we die. I don't think it does any harm talking about evidence based likelyhoods and probabilities though."
The only "right" answer is that nobody knows what the real answer is
If anybody says any different that is wrong |
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"I think whatever someone believes is non of my business and if it brings someone comfort then who am I to denigrate or ridicule.
I enjoy this point of view... but its a bit of a fudge because there IS a right and a wrong answer. Not everyone is correct. There is one thing that does actually happen when we die. I don't think it does any harm talking about evidence based likelyhoods and probabilities though."
But the thing is non of us know. I don't, but what I Do know is that I wouldn't dismiss anyone's ideas or tell them they are wrong |
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"No. You die, you're buried, you rot just the same as any living organism. The soul and the afterlife are social constructs, a coping mechanism even.
The soul is a social construct?
Really.
Unlike those other living organisms you mention,human beings have souls,that is a fact not a social construct
Lols. Evidence pls
Evidence of us having souls??
We are having this conversation
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I talk to my dog sometimes. Does he have a soul?
We are not special. Most species communicate.
Is communication what defines that we have souls? |
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"I think whatever someone believes is non of my business and if it brings someone comfort then who am I to denigrate or ridicule.
I enjoy this point of view... but its a bit of a fudge because there IS a right and a wrong answer. Not everyone is correct. There is one thing that does actually happen when we die. I don't think it does any harm talking about evidence based likelyhoods and probabilities though.
The only "right" answer is that nobody knows what the real answer is
If anybody says any different that is wrong"
True. That's why I said this is based on livelihoods and possibilities. |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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"No. You die, you're buried, you rot just the same as any living organism. The soul and the afterlife are social constructs, a coping mechanism even.
The soul is a social construct?
Really.
Unlike those other living organisms you mention,human beings have souls,that is a fact not a social construct
Lols. Evidence pls
Evidence of us having souls??
We are having this conversation
I talk to my dog sometimes. Does he have a soul?
We are not special. Most species communicate.
Is communication what defines that we have souls?"
I meant by us having a "deep and meaningful" conversation about life after death shows we have souls,not the mere fact of us communicating
Can animals do that?
Ask your dog
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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"I think whatever someone believes is non of my business and if it brings someone comfort then who am I to denigrate or ridicule.
I enjoy this point of view... but its a bit of a fudge because there IS a right and a wrong answer. Not everyone is correct. There is one thing that does actually happen when we die. I don't think it does any harm talking about evidence based likelyhoods and probabilities though.
The only "right" answer is that nobody knows what the real answer is
If anybody says any different that is wrong
True. That's why I said this is based on livelihoods and possibilities. "
Outside of your beliefs,what likelihoods and possibilities?
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"I think whatever someone believes is non of my business and if it brings someone comfort then who am I to denigrate or ridicule.
I enjoy this point of view... but its a bit of a fudge because there IS a right and a wrong answer. Not everyone is correct. There is one thing that does actually happen when we die. I don't think it does any harm talking about evidence based likelyhoods and probabilities though.
The only "right" answer is that nobody knows what the real answer is
If anybody says any different that is wrong
True. That's why I said this is based on livelihoods and possibilities.
Outside of your beliefs,what likelihoods and possibilities?
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Sorry I'm not sure I understand your question |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
kildare |
"I think whatever someone believes is non of my business and if it brings someone comfort then who am I to denigrate or ridicule.
I enjoy this point of view... but its a bit of a fudge because there IS a right and a wrong answer. Not everyone is correct. There is one thing that does actually happen when we die. I don't think it does any harm talking about evidence based likelyhoods and probabilities though."
In regards this "right" and "wrong" answer you speak of,what likelyhoods and probabilities are you talking about?
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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago
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"I'm sure other animals have communication that is meaningful to them. It's very arrogant to suggest that we are the only species that can communicate meaningfully "
Exactly plenty of other species do as well it's pretty arrogant to think because we don't understand them they don't. Anyone who has spent any time with animals would know they communicate and feel grief and happiness as well. |
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"I think whatever someone believes is non of my business and if it brings someone comfort then who am I to denigrate or ridicule.
I enjoy this point of view... but its a bit of a fudge because there IS a right and a wrong answer. Not everyone is correct. There is one thing that does actually happen when we die. I don't think it does any harm talking about evidence based likelyhoods and probabilities though.
In regards this "right" and "wrong" answer you speak of,what likelyhoods and probabilities are you talking about?
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What I mean is that there is only 1 right answer. This wishy washy "we are all right" attitude isn't reality. All we can do is look at the evidence and livelihoods and make up our own minds based on our life experience. People who believe in supernatural solutions in their lifetime are gonna be the ones who believe it after death. |
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why do we have to put up with bullshit thinking if it makes someone feel better.
you live , fantastic odds on that ever happening , you die a reality .
An after life is just taking the edge of not being here. |
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over a year ago
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"I'd like to think you are immediately born again in to another life
The maths for that don't stack up. With exponential birth rates, you wouldn't have enough souls to fill the newbies. "
I know lots of people who are soulless  |
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Time is reletive.
Before you die all the neurons in your brain fire off energy.
I like to think in that split second before you go,
That you are lost in void of all your experiences feelings and memories for as long as that split second decides to last.
reletive to the endless nothing that may follow it could feel like a million years.
Morgan freemans theory about the collected sphere of energy is a nice one also.
His series "The story of god" is a decent watch on netflix.
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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"I think whatever someone believes is non of my business and if it brings someone comfort then who am I to denigrate or ridicule.
I enjoy this point of view... but its a bit of a fudge because there IS a right and a wrong answer. Not everyone is correct. There is one thing that does actually happen when we die. I don't think it does any harm talking about evidence based likelyhoods and probabilities though.
In regards this "right" and "wrong" answer you speak of,what likelyhoods and probabilities are you talking about?
What I mean is that there is only 1 right answer. This wishy washy "we are all right" attitude isn't reality. All we can do is look at the evidence and livelihoods and make up our own minds based on our life experience. People who believe in supernatural solutions in their lifetime are gonna be the ones who believe it after death."
I don't agree with your last sentence.
I believe in a god and for the reasons i said and evidence I see.
Also I said I don't know about life after death and nobody knows.
Both of these things can,and I believe are,correct.
Which goes against what you said
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"I think whatever someone believes is non of my business and if it brings someone comfort then who am I to denigrate or ridicule.
I enjoy this point of view... but its a bit of a fudge because there IS a right and a wrong answer. Not everyone is correct. There is one thing that does actually happen when we die. I don't think it does any harm talking about evidence based likelyhoods and probabilities though.
In regards this "right" and "wrong" answer you speak of,what likelyhoods and probabilities are you talking about?
What I mean is that there is only 1 right answer. This wishy washy "we are all right" attitude isn't reality. All we can do is look at the evidence and livelihoods and make up our own minds based on our life experience. People who believe in supernatural solutions in their lifetime are gonna be the ones who believe it after death.
I don't agree with your last sentence.
I believe in a god and for the reasons i said and evidence I see.
Also I said I don't know about life after death and nobody knows.
Both of these things can,and I believe are,correct.
Which goes against what you said
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Doesn't your religions teachings tell you what happens after death? Most of them do I think. Do you not believe that part? |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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"I think whatever someone believes is non of my business and if it brings someone comfort then who am I to denigrate or ridicule.
I enjoy this point of view... but its a bit of a fudge because there IS a right and a wrong answer. Not everyone is correct. There is one thing that does actually happen when we die. I don't think it does any harm talking about evidence based likelyhoods and probabilities though.
In regards this "right" and "wrong" answer you speak of,what likelyhoods and probabilities are you talking about?
What I mean is that there is only 1 right answer. This wishy washy "we are all right" attitude isn't reality. All we can do is look at the evidence and livelihoods and make up our own minds based on our life experience. People who believe in supernatural solutions in their lifetime are gonna be the ones who believe it after death.
I don't agree with your last sentence.
I believe in a god and for the reasons i said and evidence I see.
Also I said I don't know about life after death and nobody knows.
Both of these things can,and I believe are,correct.
Which goes against what you said
Doesn't your religions teachings tell you what happens after death? Most of them do I think. Do you not believe that part?"
Where did I say anything about religion.
I'm as anti religion as I assume you are.
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I have based my opinion on my experiences with a medium who brought messages from the 'spirit world' from a lost loved one.I do believe there is life after death based on my interactions with him.People will have their own beliefs based on their experiences.All of which should be respected  |
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You reach a point in life when you suddenly dwell on you mortality, happened me a few years back when you come to realise you are going to die at some point and you start to think what is there if anything after death or is that it?
I personally think theres nothing after death, I think after life is a coping mechanism for people who fear non existence or have lost loved 1's and don't want to believe they are not still there is some way. Mainly people of some religious belief and at end of the day what religion you are is greatly dictated by what part of the world you are born.
I was born into the Catholic way of life but would class myself as non religious now, people want to believe so they do but the human race ain't all that special in the grand scheme of the universe....we just got to make the most of the life we have, you only get 1
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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"Sorry Hal. I assumed your belief in God meant that you subscribed to a religion, but of course it doesn't."
Correct.
I would go as far as say because I believe in God and don't subscribe to any religion buts me closer to what you called earlier the "right" answer to these questions than any blind believer in these religions.
Seeing as all organised religions are "wrong".
They have to be.
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"...but the human race ain't all that special in the grand scheme of the universe....
Believe what you want but this is just wrong.
The human race is very special "
That's a much more interesting question than what happens after we die. Are we unique in the universe or are we one of many civilisations on many planets in many galaxies. With a sample size of 1 we have no hope of knowing. The universe could be overflowing with life for all we know |
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"...but the human race ain't all that special in the grand scheme of the universe....
Believe what you want but this is just wrong.
The human race is very special "
I meant "special" in that a God created us in his/her image as the most important being in the whole universe and has plans of every lasting life for us all....of course the human race is special and unique |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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"...but the human race ain't all that special in the grand scheme of the universe....
Believe what you want but this is just wrong.
The human race is very special
That's a much more interesting question than what happens after we die. Are we unique in the universe or are we one of many civilisations on many planets in many galaxies. With a sample size of 1 we have no hope of knowing. The universe could be overflowing with life for all we know "
Again I disagree
Life after death/God is much more interesting than life on other planets.
If you could magically get the true answer to either question,which would you pick?
God,of course.
That answer would answer all.
Life on other planets answer would only lead to more questions.
Imo,if you take God as a given,there would be very likely no other life out there,
Why have 2 separate,almighty creations?
Earth is it
Imo
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"...but the human race ain't all that special in the grand scheme of the universe....
Believe what you want but this is just wrong.
The human race is very special
That's a much more interesting question than what happens after we die. Are we unique in the universe or are we one of many civilisations on many planets in many galaxies. With a sample size of 1 we have no hope of knowing. The universe could be overflowing with life for all we know
Again I disagree
Life after death/God is much more interesting than life on other planets.
If you could magically get the true answer to either question,which would you pick?
God,of course.
That answer would answer all.
Life on other planets answer would only lead to more questions.
Imo,if you take God as a given,there would be very likely no other life out there,
Why have 2 separate,almighty creations?
Earth is it
Imo
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Your entitled to your option and your faith, earth and God being it and works for you fair enough just remember the earth was once flat until it was proven not to be, same applies to the universe we just don't know what's out there.....you can disagree but doesn't mean your right or wrong |
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"No. You die, you're buried, you rot just the same as any living organism. The soul and the afterlife are social constructs, a coping mechanism even.
The soul is a social construct?
Really.
Unlike those other living organisms you mention,human beings have souls,that is a fact not a social construct
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Yes that is what I believe. I don't claim it to be fact, however if you can point me to the evidence that human beings have souls - as you claim it to be fact - I'll gladly read up on it. |
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"...but the human race ain't all that special in the grand scheme of the universe....
Believe what you want but this is just wrong.
The human race is very special
That's a much more interesting question than what happens after we die. Are we unique in the universe or are we one of many civilisations on many planets in many galaxies. With a sample size of 1 we have no hope of knowing. The universe could be overflowing with life for all we know
Again I disagree
Life after death/God is much more interesting than life on other planets.
If you could magically get the true answer to either question,which would you pick?
God,of course.
That answer would answer all.
Life on other planets answer would only lead to more questions.
Imo,if you take God as a given,there would be very likely no other life out there,
Why have 2 separate,almighty creations?
Earth is it
Imo
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Is God the true answer though? Or is God the easy answer... |
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"...but the human race ain't all that special in the grand scheme of the universe....
Believe what you want but this is just wrong.
The human race is very special
That's a much more interesting question than what happens after we die. Are we unique in the universe or are we one of many civilisations on many planets in many galaxies. With a sample size of 1 we have no hope of knowing. The universe could be overflowing with life for all we know
Again I disagree
Life after death/God is much more interesting than life on other planets.
If you could magically get the true answer to either question,which would you pick?
God,of course.
That answer would answer all.
Life on other planets answer would only lead to more questions.
Imo,if you take God as a given,there would be very likely no other life out there,
Why have 2 separate,almighty creations?
Earth is it
Imo
Is God the true answer though? Or is God the easy answer..."
Chicken or the egg? |
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"...but the human race ain't all that special in the grand scheme of the universe....
Believe what you want but this is just wrong.
The human race is very special
That's a much more interesting question than what happens after we die. Are we unique in the universe or are we one of many civilisations on many planets in many galaxies. With a sample size of 1 we have no hope of knowing. The universe could be overflowing with life for all we know
Again I disagree
Life after death/God is much more interesting than life on other planets.
If you could magically get the true answer to either question,which would you pick?
God,of course.
That answer would answer all.
Life on other planets answer would only lead to more questions.
Imo,if you take God as a given,there would be very likely no other life out there,
Why have 2 separate,almighty creations?
Earth is it
Imo
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Why on earth would we take that as an assumption?
Science suggests that the matter that makes up our bodies was created in a star exploding billions of years ago. We are literally made up of stardust, and to the stars we will return once our own planets existence comes to and end and its swallowed by our sun as it expands and engulfs its solar system. We are one tiny little blue planet in a completely ordinary galaxy. One of billions of galaxies. Planets are made and destroyed in a life cycle of millennia and unimaginable forces of exotic elements like black holes and supernovae shape an almost infinate universe where almost everything is happenning somewhere in a distant world. Civilisations come and go in a blink on a planetary scale, much like ours was born and will die. Looking upwards and outwards is way more exciting to me than harking back to 2000 year old ideas about how the world worked, and how we came here, and what happens afterwards. We can look beyond this now. We just launched a new space telescope a million miles into space that can see so far that it was view the universe only a few million years after the big bang. That's shits real. |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
kildare |
"...but the human race ain't all that special in the grand scheme of the universe....
Believe what you want but this is just wrong.
The human race is very special
That's a much more interesting question than what happens after we die. Are we unique in the universe or are we one of many civilisations on many planets in many galaxies. With a sample size of 1 we have no hope of knowing. The universe could be overflowing with life for all we know
Again I disagree
Life after death/God is much more interesting than life on other planets.
If you could magically get the true answer to either question,which would you pick?
God,of course.
That answer would answer all.
Life on other planets answer would only lead to more questions.
Imo,if you take God as a given,there would be very likely no other life out there,
Why have 2 separate,almighty creations?
Earth is it
Imo
Your entitled to your option and your faith, earth and God being it and works for you fair enough just remember the earth was once flat until it was proven not to be, same applies to the universe we just don't know what's out there.....you can disagree but doesn't mean your right or wrong"
I said this is just IMO
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
kildare |
"...but the human race ain't all that special in the grand scheme of the universe....
Believe what you want but this is just wrong.
The human race is very special
That's a much more interesting question than what happens after we die. Are we unique in the universe or are we one of many civilisations on many planets in many galaxies. With a sample size of 1 we have no hope of knowing. The universe could be overflowing with life for all we know
Again I disagree
Life after death/God is much more interesting than life on other planets.
If you could magically get the true answer to either question,which would you pick?
God,of course.
That answer would answer all.
Life on other planets answer would only lead to more questions.
Imo,if you take God as a given,there would be very likely no other life out there,
Why have 2 separate,almighty creations?
Earth is it
Imo
Why on earth would we take that as an assumption?
Science suggests that the matter that makes up our bodies was created in a star exploding billions of years ago. We are literally made up of stardust, and to the stars we will return once our own planets existence comes to and end and its swallowed by our sun as it expands and engulfs its solar system. We are one tiny little blue planet in a completely ordinary galaxy. One of billions of galaxies. Planets are made and destroyed in a life cycle of millennia and unimaginable forces of exotic elements like black holes and supernovae shape an almost infinate universe where almost everything is happenning somewhere in a distant world. Civilisations come and go in a blink on a planetary scale, much like ours was born and will die. Looking upwards and outwards is way more exciting to me than harking back to 2000 year old ideas about how the world worked, and how we came here, and what happens afterwards. We can look beyond this now. We just launched a new space telescope a million miles into space that can see so far that it was view the universe only a few million years after the big bang. That's shits real."
Again with the religion
These are my ideas and not any 2000 year old religious beliefs fed to me.
I agree with your scientific explanation of the universe, as best we know,but it only leads to more questions from me,I find no answers in any of it. |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
kildare |
"...but the human race ain't all that special in the grand scheme of the universe....
Believe what you want but this is just wrong.
The human race is very special
That's a much more interesting question than what happens after we die. Are we unique in the universe or are we one of many civilisations on many planets in many galaxies. With a sample size of 1 we have no hope of knowing. The universe could be overflowing with life for all we know
Again I disagree
Life after death/God is much more interesting than life on other planets.
If you could magically get the true answer to either question,which would you pick?
God,of course.
That answer would answer all.
Life on other planets answer would only lead to more questions.
Imo,if you take God as a given,there would be very likely no other life out there,
Why have 2 separate,almighty creations?
Earth is it
Imo
Is God the true answer though? Or is God the easy answer..."
Nobody knows the "true" answer.
But for me it definitely wasn't the easy answer
The easy answer in our society today is to go with the herd and agree that there is no God |
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"I know its a bit dark but I have always wondered is there a life after death? Or is it complete nothingness? Often had this convo with my friends and I'm just wondering what you guys think?  "
We’ll all get a chance to find out, sooner rather than later, if this Ukraine thing really kicks off. |
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By *inag101 OP TV/TS
over a year ago
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"I know its a bit dark but I have always wondered is there a life after death? Or is it complete nothingness? Often had this convo with my friends and I'm just wondering what you guys think?
We’ll all get a chance to find out, sooner rather than later, if this Ukraine thing really kicks off."
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"...but the human race ain't all that special in the grand scheme of the universe....
Believe what you want but this is just wrong.
The human race is very special
That's a much more interesting question than what happens after we die. Are we unique in the universe or are we one of many civilisations on many planets in many galaxies. With a sample size of 1 we have no hope of knowing. The universe could be overflowing with life for all we know
Again I disagree
Life after death/God is much more interesting than life on other planets.
If you could magically get the true answer to either question,which would you pick?
God,of course.
That answer would answer all.
Life on other planets answer would only lead to more questions.
Imo,if you take God as a given,there would be very likely no other life out there,
Why have 2 separate,almighty creations?
Earth is it
Imo
Is God the true answer though? Or is God the easy answer...
Nobody knows the "true" answer.
But for me it definitely wasn't the easy answer
The easy answer in our society today is to go with the herd and agree that there is no God"
"Just because God" absolves the need for real explanation, for scientific discovery, for empirical evidence. Imagine if we used that explanation for say diseases and accepted that they happen "just because" then medicine would not be where it is today. The same can apply to any field. That is not an easy answer. |
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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago
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I have a profound concern for my own welfare, health and peace of mind, but I am also affected by the evident emotions of my fellow man, or woman.
In my opinion, God is a construct, a fabrication that rational intelligent people should disregard whilst acknowledging that some need this emotional crutch to cope with life.
Evolution, cosmology and the other sciences provide sound analyses of reality. |
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A few faiths like the Buddhism and Hinduism have recognised reincarnation while a few others have gone with the idea of an afterlife....
Truth is no one knows until you get there ...or not as the case may be 
All I can say in my own life is that I've met about 3 people who I've have a complete sense of deja vous with. So, maybe you were Cleopathra or the King Of Spain in a previous life but guess what? You're not in this one, so go live and enjoy this experience and incarnation as a Fabber!
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By *dfabMan
over a year ago
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Death? I don't really care about it. It's going to happen when it happens and I don't think I'll give much of a cahoots afterwards.
Le Petit Mort? That's something I care a lot more about, both giving and receiving.
The more of those I can enjoy before my actual death is far more important to me than who I might scare the bejaysus out of when I shuffle off this mortal coil |
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By *attooYouMan
over a year ago
just about northside |
"Death? I don't really care about it. It's going to happen when it happens and I don't think I'll give much of a cahoots afterwards.
Le Petit Mort? That's something I care a lot more about, both giving and receiving.
The more of those I can enjoy before my actual death is far more important to me than who I might scare the bejaysus out of when I shuffle off this mortal coil "
I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen anything to make me believe there's one all-powerful force controlling everything. There's no mystical energy field that controls my destiny! |
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By *dfabMan
over a year ago
Dunboyne |
"Death? I don't really care about it. It's going to happen when it happens and I don't think I'll give much of a cahoots afterwards.
Le Petit Mort? That's something I care a lot more about, both giving and receiving.
The more of those I can enjoy before my actual death is far more important to me than who I might scare the bejaysus out of when I shuffle off this mortal coil
I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen anything to make me believe there's one all-powerful force controlling everything. There's no mystical energy field that controls my destiny!"
Yeah there feckin well is!
It's called money. The ability to earn it and then the decision on what you spend it on.
If you can get to a place where money is not in the equation, then your statement is valid.
Until then, get busy like the rest of us mules  |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
kildare |
"...but the human race ain't all that special in the grand scheme of the universe....
Believe what you want but this is just wrong.
The human race is very special
That's a much more interesting question than what happens after we die. Are we unique in the universe or are we one of many civilisations on many planets in many galaxies. With a sample size of 1 we have no hope of knowing. The universe could be overflowing with life for all we know
Again I disagree
Life after death/God is much more interesting than life on other planets.
If you could magically get the true answer to either question,which would you pick?
God,of course.
That answer would answer all.
Life on other planets answer would only lead to more questions.
Imo,if you take God as a given,there would be very likely no other life out there,
Why have 2 separate,almighty creations?
Earth is it
Imo
Is God the true answer though? Or is God the easy answer...
Nobody knows the "true" answer.
But for me it definitely wasn't the easy answer
The easy answer in our society today is to go with the herd and agree that there is no God
"Just because God" absolves the need for real explanation, for scientific discovery, for empirical evidence. Imagine if we used that explanation for say diseases and accepted that they happen "just because" then medicine would not be where it is today. The same can apply to any field. That is not an easy answer."
But that is not my answer.
I can only answer for myself.
I believe in science too
They are not mutually exclusive |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
kildare |
"Death? I don't really care about it. It's going to happen when it happens and I don't think I'll give much of a cahoots afterwards.
Le Petit Mort? That's something I care a lot more about, both giving and receiving.
The more of those I can enjoy before my actual death is far more important to me than who I might scare the bejaysus out of when I shuffle off this mortal coil
I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen anything to make me believe there's one all-powerful force controlling everything. There's no mystical energy field that controls my destiny!"
I don't believe that either
We all control ourselves |
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According to Hollywood yes and according to Science no! some religions says hell and heaven are here only on earth.it depends upon the person preferences... |
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By *ateniteCouple
over a year ago
Youghal |
"Death? I don't really care about it. It's going to happen when it happens and I don't think I'll give much of a cahoots afterwards.
Le Petit Mort? That's something I care a lot more about, both giving and receiving.
The more of those I can enjoy before my actual death is far more important to me than who I might scare the bejaysus out of when I shuffle off this mortal coil
I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen anything to make me believe there's one all-powerful force controlling everything. There's no mystical energy field that controls my destiny!"
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"...but the human race ain't all that special in the grand scheme of the universe....
Believe what you want but this is just wrong.
The human race is very special
That's a much more interesting question than what happens after we die. Are we unique in the universe or are we one of many civilisations on many planets in many galaxies. With a sample size of 1 we have no hope of knowing. The universe could be overflowing with life for all we know
Again I disagree
Life after death/God is much more interesting than life on other planets.
If you could magically get the true answer to either question,which would you pick?
God,of course.
That answer would answer all.
Life on other planets answer would only lead to more questions.
Imo,if you take God as a given,there would be very likely no other life out there,
Why have 2 separate,almighty creations?
Earth is it
Imo
Is God the true answer though? Or is God the easy answer...
Nobody knows the "true" answer.
But for me it definitely wasn't the easy answer
The easy answer in our society today is to go with the herd and agree that there is no God
"Just because God" absolves the need for real explanation, for scientific discovery, for empirical evidence. Imagine if we used that explanation for say diseases and accepted that they happen "just because" then medicine would not be where it is today. The same can apply to any field. That is not an easy answer.
But that is not my answer.
I can only answer for myself.
I believe in science too
They are not mutually exclusive "
I didn't say it was your answer or denying your belief. I was merely countering your claim that in today's society to say there is no God is an easy answer. |
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By *oodieMan
over a year ago
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"I don't believe there is in a religious sense but read an article by a guy called Aaron Freeman about the science of death and what a physicist might say at a funeral:
"You want a physicist to speak at your funeral. You want the physicist to talk to your grieving family about the conservation of energy, so they will understand that your energy has not died. You want the physicist to remind your sobbing mother about the first law of thermodynamics; that no energy gets created in the universe, and none is destroyed.
You want your mother to know that all your energy, every vibration, every Btu of heat, every wave of every particle that was her beloved child remains with her in this world. You want the physicist to tell your weeping father that amid energies of the cosmos, you gave as good as you got.
And at one point you’d hope that the physicist would step down from the pulpit and walk to your brokenhearted spouse there in the pew and tell him that all the photons that ever bounced off your face, all the particles whose paths were interrupted by your smile, by the touch of your hair, hundreds of trillions of particles, have raced off like children, their ways forever changed by you.
And as your widow rocks in the arms of a loving family, may the physicist let her know that all the photons that bounced from you were gathered in the particle detectors that are her eyes, that those photons created within her constellations of electromagnetically charged neurons whose energy will go on forever.
You can hope your family will examine the evidence and satisfy themselves that the science is sound and that they’ll be comforted to know your energy’s still around. According to the law of the conservation of energy, not a bit of you is gone; you’re just less orderly.""
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
kildare |
"...but the human race ain't all that special in the grand scheme of the universe....
Believe what you want but this is just wrong.
The human race is very special
That's a much more interesting question than what happens after we die. Are we unique in the universe or are we one of many civilisations on many planets in many galaxies. With a sample size of 1 we have no hope of knowing. The universe could be overflowing with life for all we know
Again I disagree
Life after death/God is much more interesting than life on other planets.
If you could magically get the true answer to either question,which would you pick?
God,of course.
That answer would answer all.
Life on other planets answer would only lead to more questions.
Imo,if you take God as a given,there would be very likely no other life out there,
Why have 2 separate,almighty creations?
Earth is it
Imo
Is God the true answer though? Or is God the easy answer...
Nobody knows the "true" answer.
But for me it definitely wasn't the easy answer
The easy answer in our society today is to go with the herd and agree that there is no God
"Just because God" absolves the need for real explanation, for scientific discovery, for empirical evidence. Imagine if we used that explanation for say diseases and accepted that they happen "just because" then medicine would not be where it is today. The same can apply to any field. That is not an easy answer.
But that is not my answer.
I can only answer for myself.
I believe in science too
They are not mutually exclusive
I didn't say it was your answer or denying your belief. I was merely countering your claim that in today's society to say there is no God is an easy answer. "
But you didn't counter it.
"Just because god" counters nothing.
Some of the greatest scientists of all time,who made these discoveries you talk about,were deeply religious |
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"...but the human race ain't all that special in the grand scheme of the universe....
Believe what you want but this is just wrong.
The human race is very special
That's a much more interesting question than what happens after we die. Are we unique in the universe or are we one of many civilisations on many planets in many galaxies. With a sample size of 1 we have no hope of knowing. The universe could be overflowing with life for all we know
Again I disagree
Life after death/God is much more interesting than life on other planets.
If you could magically get the true answer to either question,which would you pick?
God,of course.
That answer would answer all.
Life on other planets answer would only lead to more questions.
Imo,if you take God as a given,there would be very likely no other life out there,
Why have 2 separate,almighty creations?
Earth is it
Imo
Is God the true answer though? Or is God the easy answer...
Nobody knows the "true" answer.
But for me it definitely wasn't the easy answer
The easy answer in our society today is to go with the herd and agree that there is no God
"Just because God" absolves the need for real explanation, for scientific discovery, for empirical evidence. Imagine if we used that explanation for say diseases and accepted that they happen "just because" then medicine would not be where it is today. The same can apply to any field. That is not an easy answer.
But that is not my answer.
I can only answer for myself.
I believe in science too
They are not mutually exclusive
I didn't say it was your answer or denying your belief. I was merely countering your claim that in today's society to say there is no God is an easy answer.
But you didn't counter it.
"Just because god" counters nothing.
Some of the greatest scientists of all time,who made these discoveries you talk about,were deeply religious "
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By *attooYouMan
over a year ago
just about northside |
"Death? I don't really care about it. It's going to happen when it happens and I don't think I'll give much of a cahoots afterwards.
Le Petit Mort? That's something I care a lot more about, both giving and receiving.
The more of those I can enjoy before my actual death is far more important to me than who I might scare the bejaysus out of when I shuffle off this mortal coil
I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen anything to make me believe there's one all-powerful force controlling everything. There's no mystical energy field that controls my destiny!
I don't believe that either
We all control ourselves"
Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid. |
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By *attooYouMan
over a year ago
just about northside |
"Death? I don't really care about it. It's going to happen when it happens and I don't think I'll give much of a cahoots afterwards.
Le Petit Mort? That's something I care a lot more about, both giving and receiving.
The more of those I can enjoy before my actual death is far more important to me than who I might scare the bejaysus out of when I shuffle off this mortal coil
I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen anything to make me believe there's one all-powerful force controlling everything. There's no mystical energy field that controls my destiny!
Yeah there feckin well is!
It's called money. The ability to earn it and then the decision on what you spend it on.
If you can get to a place where money is not in the equation, then your statement is valid.
Until then, get busy like the rest of us mules "
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By *dfabMan
over a year ago
Dunboyne |
"Death? I don't really care about it. It's going to happen when it happens and I don't think I'll give much of a cahoots afterwards.
Le Petit Mort? That's something I care a lot more about, both giving and receiving.
The more of those I can enjoy before my actual death is far more important to me than who I might scare the bejaysus out of when I shuffle off this mortal coil
I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen anything to make me believe there's one all-powerful force controlling everything. There's no mystical energy field that controls my destiny!
I don't believe that either
We all control ourselves
Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid."
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