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"It’s interesting that each of the threads about the murder of Aisling Murphy was started by a male. My question is, what are you doing to help end male violence? Women know that not all men are violent towards women. However, we don’t know which men will be. Women have been given a list of things they should and shouldn’t do - you’ve all heard them: don’t walk at night on your own, carry your keys in your hand, have earphones in but no music on so you can hear someone coming up behind you etc etc You might be wondering what you can do. If you’re in a lads WhatsApp group and there are explicit photos of women being shared or women being referred to as bitches, sluts, whores, cunts etc call your friends out on it. Tell them it’s not acceptable. If you’re walking down a street and see a woman being harassed, intervene. Ask if she’s ok and if she wants your help. If you hear someone catcalling tell them it’s not acceptable. If you’re on a night out and a guy is grabbing a woman’s ass, report it to security. Speak to your sons/brothers/friends/nephews/dads/uncles and all the other men in your life about the importance of consent and that speaking in derogatory ways about women is not acceptable. From a fab point of view, don’t send a dick pic in your first message unless it’s asked for in a profile. Don’t refer to r@pe and murder as violence against women. It’s male violence (99% of the time). Stop paying lip service when something like this happens and start helping to change the culture around you. If you read this and feel the urge to comment “not all men” please don’t. Please go somewhere else. " Truly impressed to see this post on here and I hope the conversation that comes from it allows the men who might not have already been aware of this come to understand things from a female perspective and want to do what they can to help end male violence. | |||
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"Down by the canal Her teaching all done An ordinary thing, She went for a run . Two decades, three years Bright as the sun Life was just starting, She went for a run . Down by the canal The headlines now stun Another womans life, She went for a run . They'll blame the "man" He had problems you see Sorry, not good enough The problem is WE . Raise our boys better Call our friends out Don't let them whistle Don't let them shout . A stranger did this But we're part of the blame No more excuses Put them to shame . Sisters, friends Mothers, aunts They keep on dying At random, by chance . Hold to account The toxicity Refuse to be a part It's complicity . Her name was Ashling Not long ago 21 Now asleep forever She went for a run . Down by the canal She will teach everyone A reminder eternal She went for a run " Impressive.  | |||
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"It’s interesting that each of the threads about the murder of Aisling Murphy was started by a male. My question is, what are you doing to help end male violence? Women know that not all men are violent towards women. However, we don’t know which men will be. Women have been given a list of things they should and shouldn’t do - you’ve all heard them: don’t walk at night on your own, carry your keys in your hand, have earphones in but no music on so you can hear someone coming up behind you etc etc You might be wondering what you can do. If you’re in a lads WhatsApp group and there are explicit photos of women being shared or women being referred to as bitches, sluts, whores, cunts etc call your friends out on it. Tell them it’s not acceptable. If you’re walking down a street and see a woman being harassed, intervene. Ask if she’s ok and if she wants your help. If you hear someone catcalling tell them it’s not acceptable. If you’re on a night out and a guy is grabbing a woman’s ass, report it to security. Speak to your sons/brothers/friends/nephews/dads/uncles and all the other men in your life about the importance of consent and that speaking in derogatory ways about women is not acceptable. From a fab point of view, don’t send a dick pic in your first message unless it’s asked for in a profile. Don’t refer to r@pe and murder as violence against women. It’s male violence (99% of the time). Stop paying lip service when something like this happens and start helping to change the culture around you. If you read this and feel the urge to comment “not all men” please don’t. Please go somewhere else. " I seen this afternoon that an online vigil for Ashling was hijacked by an uninvited man with a username impersonating another woman on the call, and he proceeded to masturbate on camera. One of the vilest things I have ever read. So depressing that there are still so many depraved sickos out there who would stoop so low | |||
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"It’s interesting that each of the threads about the murder of Aisling Murphy was started by a male. My question is, what are you doing to help end male violence? Women know that not all men are violent towards women. However, we don’t know which men will be. Women have been given a list of things they should and shouldn’t do - you’ve all heard them: don’t walk at night on your own, carry your keys in your hand, have earphones in but no music on so you can hear someone coming up behind you etc etc You might be wondering what you can do. If you’re in a lads WhatsApp group and there are explicit photos of women being shared or women being referred to as bitches, sluts, whores, cunts etc call your friends out on it. Tell them it’s not acceptable. If you’re walking down a street and see a woman being harassed, intervene. Ask if she’s ok and if she wants your help. If you hear someone catcalling tell them it’s not acceptable. If you’re on a night out and a guy is grabbing a woman’s ass, report it to security. Speak to your sons/brothers/friends/nephews/dads/uncles and all the other men in your life about the importance of consent and that speaking in derogatory ways about women is not acceptable. From a fab point of view, don’t send a dick pic in your first message unless it’s asked for in a profile. Don’t refer to r@pe and murder as violence against women. It’s male violence (99% of the time). Stop paying lip service when something like this happens and start helping to change the culture around you. If you read this and feel the urge to comment “not all men” please don’t. Please go somewhere else. I seen this afternoon that an online vigil for Ashling was hijacked by an uninvited man with a username impersonating another woman on the call, and he proceeded to masturbate on camera. One of the vilest things I have ever read. So depressing that there are still so many depraved sickos out there who would stoop so low " I laughed out loud when I heard that.. | |||
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"It’s interesting that each of the threads about the murder of Aisling Murphy was started by a male. My question is, what are you doing to help end male violence? Women know that not all men are violent towards women. However, we don’t know which men will be. Women have been given a list of things they should and shouldn’t do - you’ve all heard them: don’t walk at night on your own, carry your keys in your hand, have earphones in but no music on so you can hear someone coming up behind you etc etc You might be wondering what you can do. If you’re in a lads WhatsApp group and there are explicit photos of women being shared or women being referred to as bitches, sluts, whores, cunts etc call your friends out on it. Tell them it’s not acceptable. If you’re walking down a street and see a woman being harassed, intervene. Ask if she’s ok and if she wants your help. If you hear someone catcalling tell them it’s not acceptable. If you’re on a night out and a guy is grabbing a woman’s ass, report it to security. Speak to your sons/brothers/friends/nephews/dads/uncles and all the other men in your life about the importance of consent and that speaking in derogatory ways about women is not acceptable. From a fab point of view, don’t send a dick pic in your first message unless it’s asked for in a profile. Don’t refer to r@pe and murder as violence against women. It’s male violence (99% of the time). Stop paying lip service when something like this happens and start helping to change the culture around you. If you read this and feel the urge to comment “not all men” please don’t. Please go somewhere else. I seen this afternoon that an online vigil for Ashling was hijacked by an uninvited man with a username impersonating another woman on the call, and he proceeded to masturbate on camera. One of the vilest things I have ever read. So depressing that there are still so many depraved sickos out there who would stoop so low I laughed out loud when I heard that.. " Whats funny about a man live on zoom wanking to women and children Would you think it funny if it was your child or partner or mother watching | |||
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"It’s interesting that each of the threads about the murder of Aisling Murphy was started by a male. My question is, what are you doing to help end male violence? Women know that not all men are violent towards women. However, we don’t know which men will be. Women have been given a list of things they should and shouldn’t do - you’ve all heard them: don’t walk at night on your own, carry your keys in your hand, have earphones in but no music on so you can hear someone coming up behind you etc etc You might be wondering what you can do. If you’re in a lads WhatsApp group and there are explicit photos of women being shared or women being referred to as bitches, sluts, whores, cunts etc call your friends out on it. Tell them it’s not acceptable. If you’re walking down a street and see a woman being harassed, intervene. Ask if she’s ok and if she wants your help. If you hear someone catcalling tell them it’s not acceptable. If you’re on a night out and a guy is grabbing a woman’s ass, report it to security. Speak to your sons/brothers/friends/nephews/dads/uncles and all the other men in your life about the importance of consent and that speaking in derogatory ways about women is not acceptable. From a fab point of view, don’t send a dick pic in your first message unless it’s asked for in a profile. Don’t refer to r@pe and murder as violence against women. It’s male violence (99% of the time). Stop paying lip service when something like this happens and start helping to change the culture around you. If you read this and feel the urge to comment “not all men” please don’t. Please go somewhere else. I seen this afternoon that an online vigil for Ashling was hijacked by an uninvited man with a username impersonating another woman on the call, and he proceeded to masturbate on camera. One of the vilest things I have ever read. So depressing that there are still so many depraved sickos out there who would stoop so low I laughed out loud when I heard that.. Whats funny about a man live on zoom wanking to women and children Would you think it funny if it was your child or partner or mother watching " My initial reaction was to laugh but when you put it like that it's not funny.. | |||
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"It’s interesting that each of the threads about the murder of Aisling Murphy was started by a male. My question is, what are you doing to help end male violence? Women know that not all men are violent towards women. However, we don’t know which men will be. Women have been given a list of things they should and shouldn’t do - you’ve all heard them: don’t walk at night on your own, carry your keys in your hand, have earphones in but no music on so you can hear someone coming up behind you etc etc You might be wondering what you can do. If you’re in a lads WhatsApp group and there are explicit photos of women being shared or women being referred to as bitches, sluts, whores, cunts etc call your friends out on it. Tell them it’s not acceptable. If you’re walking down a street and see a woman being harassed, intervene. Ask if she’s ok and if she wants your help. If you hear someone catcalling tell them it’s not acceptable. If you’re on a night out and a guy is grabbing a woman’s ass, report it to security. Speak to your sons/brothers/friends/nephews/dads/uncles and all the other men in your life about the importance of consent and that speaking in derogatory ways about women is not acceptable. From a fab point of view, don’t send a dick pic in your first message unless it’s asked for in a profile. Don’t refer to r@pe and murder as violence against women. It’s male violence (99% of the time). Stop paying lip service when something like this happens and start helping to change the culture around you. If you read this and feel the urge to comment “not all men” please don’t. Please go somewhere else. I seen this afternoon that an online vigil for Ashling was hijacked by an uninvited man with a username impersonating another woman on the call, and he proceeded to masturbate on camera. One of the vilest things I have ever read. So depressing that there are still so many depraved sickos out there who would stoop so low I laughed out loud when I heard that.. " What the fuck is wrong with you? | |||
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"It’s interesting that each of the threads about the murder of Aisling Murphy was started by a male. My question is, what are you doing to help end male violence? Women know that not all men are violent towards women. However, we don’t know which men will be. Women have been given a list of things they should and shouldn’t do - you’ve all heard them: don’t walk at night on your own, carry your keys in your hand, have earphones in but no music on so you can hear someone coming up behind you etc etc You might be wondering what you can do. If you’re in a lads WhatsApp group and there are explicit photos of women being shared or women being referred to as bitches, sluts, whores, cunts etc call your friends out on it. Tell them it’s not acceptable. If you’re walking down a street and see a woman being harassed, intervene. Ask if she’s ok and if she wants your help. If you hear someone catcalling tell them it’s not acceptable. If you’re on a night out and a guy is grabbing a woman’s ass, report it to security. Speak to your sons/brothers/friends/nephews/dads/uncles and all the other men in your life about the importance of consent and that speaking in derogatory ways about women is not acceptable. From a fab point of view, don’t send a dick pic in your first message unless it’s asked for in a profile. Don’t refer to r@pe and murder as violence against women. It’s male violence (99% of the time). Stop paying lip service when something like this happens and start helping to change the culture around you. If you read this and feel the urge to comment “not all men” please don’t. Please go somewhere else. I seen this afternoon that an online vigil for Ashling was hijacked by an uninvited man with a username impersonating another woman on the call, and he proceeded to masturbate on camera. One of the vilest things I have ever read. So depressing that there are still so many depraved sickos out there who would stoop so low I laughed out loud when I heard that.. What the fuck is wrong with you?" See answer above | |||
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"Sigh. Ah well. It started off promising…" Just talk to people who agree with you then | |||
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"Absolutely. While there is no getting away from the tragedy of this crime it is also a fact that 77% of those murdered are male, and 59% of assaults are against males. Neither gender is unique in their fear of walking down a dark street at night, or of thinking defensively when it comes to traveling on their own. this is not an issue for one gender, it is an issue for all of us, both men and women, and it needs to be tackled by both genders and not held up as a uniquely male issue. Aggression takes many forms. We should be looking to address aggression in all it's guises and not just the, thankfully, relatively rare horrific crimes such as this particular murder. " Of your suggesting the fear is somehow equal then you either don't know any women or you don't pray any heed to them. I regularly walk across the local park at night to visit family who live in the other side. My wife and daughters would be reluctant to walk that way even in daytime, and that's based on their past experience. Yeah, men get assaulted and murdered but it's never gender based. Women get assaulted simply because they're women. It's also worth pointing out that the verbal stuff that goes over men's heads may terrify a lot of women and its an assault in itself. | |||
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"It’s interesting that each of the threads about the murder of Aisling Murphy was started by a male. My question is, what are you doing to help end male violence? Women know that not all men are violent towards women. However, we don’t know which men will be. Women have been given a list of things they should and shouldn’t do - you’ve all heard them: don’t walk at night on your own, carry your keys in your hand, have earphones in but no music on so you can hear someone coming up behind you etc etc You might be wondering what you can do. If you’re in a lads WhatsApp group and there are explicit photos of women being shared or women being referred to as bitches, sluts, whores, cunts etc call your friends out on it. Tell them it’s not acceptable. If you’re walking down a street and see a woman being harassed, intervene. Ask if she’s ok and if she wants your help. If you hear someone catcalling tell them it’s not acceptable. If you’re on a night out and a guy is grabbing a woman’s ass, report it to security. Speak to your sons/brothers/friends/nephews/dads/uncles and all the other men in your life about the importance of consent and that speaking in derogatory ways about women is not acceptable. From a fab point of view, don’t send a dick pic in your first message unless it’s asked for in a profile. Don’t refer to r@pe and murder as violence against women. It’s male violence (99% of the time). Stop paying lip service when something like this happens and start helping to change the culture around you. If you read this and feel the urge to comment “not all men” please don’t. Please go somewhere else. I seen this afternoon that an online vigil for Ashling was hijacked by an uninvited man with a username impersonating another woman on the call, and he proceeded to masturbate on camera. One of the vilest things I have ever read. So depressing that there are still so many depraved sickos out there who would stoop so low I laughed out loud when I heard that.. Whats funny about a man live on zoom wanking to women and children Would you think it funny if it was your child or partner or mother watching " He doesn't care. He just wants his reaction so he can feel better about the whole thing triggering him and his idiotic opinions. | |||
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"Absolutely. While there is no getting away from the tragedy of this crime it is also a fact that 77% of those murdered are male, and 59% of assaults are against males. Neither gender is unique in their fear of walking down a dark street at night, or of thinking defensively when it comes to traveling on their own. this is not an issue for one gender, it is an issue for all of us, both men and women, and it needs to be tackled by both genders and not held up as a uniquely male issue. Aggression takes many forms. We should be looking to address aggression in all it's guises and not just the, thankfully, relatively rare horrific crimes such as this particular murder. " Who is it that commits 90% of those crimes against men? Men. Male violence. | |||
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"Absolutely. While there is no getting away from the tragedy of this crime it is also a fact that 77% of those murdered are male, and 59% of assaults are against males. Neither gender is unique in their fear of walking down a dark street at night, or of thinking defensively when it comes to traveling on their own. this is not an issue for one gender, it is an issue for all of us, both men and women, and it needs to be tackled by both genders and not held up as a uniquely male issue. Aggression takes many forms. We should be looking to address aggression in all it's guises and not just the, thankfully, relatively rare horrific crimes such as this particular murder. Who is it that commits 90% of those crimes against men? Men. Male violence. " Testosterone plain and simple.. Unless you propose we castrate every male that would sort out the problem of male violence it would also ensure the eradication of our species  | |||
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"I , I ,I ,I , So much bullshit. The world is fucked up, if you started being nicer to each other and trying to understand each other it would be a good start. Don't just pull your male friends up explain why it's wrong and ask them why they didn't notice. Just like the post above , CG explained he didn't see it as bad at first . A person got murdered, a woman yes but it doesn't mean we need to start a women v men argument every time. OP you obviously have been affected by this and are savouring the discussions, do you think this is a good way to get the point across, or is it just causing division? I think everyone agrees there is a problem and education is the answer but how to ? " Savouring the discussions? Not exactly. My only hope is that one or two men who have read it speak to the other men around them about what is not acceptable. | |||
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" Would you think it funny if it was your child or partner or mother watching " I see this line of thinking used time and time again in these kinds of discussion and while I appreciate that it’s well intentioned, it saddens me that we have to resort to it. You shouldn’t only care if it’s concerning someone you’re related to/attracted to. You should care about women and view every one of them as humans deserving of respect without qualifiers, full stop. Think about it. | |||
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" Would you think it funny if it was your child or partner or mother watching I see this line of thinking used time and time again in these kinds of discussion and while I appreciate that it’s well intentioned, it saddens me that we have to resort to it. You shouldn’t only care if it’s concerning someone you’re related to/attracted to. You should care about women and view every one of them as humans deserving of respect without qualifiers, full stop. Think about it. " Here here I agree.. Its a as long as its not in my back yard way of thinking.. | |||
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" Would you think it funny if it was your child or partner or mother watching I see this line of thinking used time and time again in these kinds of discussion and while I appreciate that it’s well intentioned, it saddens me that we have to resort to it. You shouldn’t only care if it’s concerning someone you’re related to/attracted to. You should care about women and view every one of them as humans deserving of respect without qualifiers, full stop. Think about it. Here here I agree.. Its a as long as its not in my back yard way of thinking.. " I used language that you could understand and relate to as you dont care about strangers It hit you and you said sorry when it was put like that Then when it was pointed out that it shouldn't take me saying something like that to get you to say sorry.....you blame me on not in my backyard type of thinking ....did you break your neck doing an about turn so quickly | |||
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" Would you think it funny if it was your child or partner or mother watching I see this line of thinking used time and time again in these kinds of discussion and while I appreciate that it’s well intentioned, it saddens me that we have to resort to it. You shouldn’t only care if it’s concerning someone you’re related to/attracted to. You should care about women and view every one of them as humans deserving of respect without qualifiers, full stop. Think about it. Here here I agree.. Its a as long as its not in my back yard way of thinking.. I used language that you could understand and relate to as you dont care about strangers It hit you and you said sorry when it was put like that Then when it was pointed out that it shouldn't take me saying something like that to get you to say sorry.....you blame me on not in my backyard type of thinking ....did you break your neck doing an about turn so quickly "  | |||
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"Sigh. Ah well. It started off promising… Just talk to people who agree with you then " No that’s boring. But seeing men spout such predictable responses such as “it’s natural” is just pig disgusting. The fact that so many men on this thread don’t pull other up on their disgusting comments is indicatives of the low intellect bar I’ve seen in the last few days on here. Shocking but not surprising. | |||
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"Sigh. Ah well. It started off promising… Just talk to people who agree with you then No that’s boring. But seeing men spout such predictable responses such as “it’s natural” is just pig disgusting. The fact that so many men on this thread don’t pull other up on their disgusting comments is indicatives of the low intellect bar I’ve seen in the last few days on here. Shocking but not surprising. " Wait... Are you suggesting that those of us who choose not to feed the trolls are of low intellect?  | |||
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"One of the most telling lines in the poem posted above is "at random, by chance". This could happen anytime and anywhere without rhyme or reason and no amount of dick measuring on here will ever change that. All we ever get following a horrific incident like this are people who claim to have all the answers and others who have answers to different questions. I lived through a generation of needless lives taken by people who were too fucking ignorant and stubborn to count to ten, take a deep breath and admit they might all actually have something in common instead of pointing fingers. I'm angry because Ashling Murphy lost her life for no reason at all. I'm angry that Aidan Mann lost his life in Downpatrick a week earlier in broad daylight I'm angry that most people on here will now have to google Aidan Mann because they've never heard of him. I'm angry that one life is seen as more important than another or their loss is more of a watershed moment than the other. Grow up ffs and start admitting that we are all to blame for the blinkers we wear half the time and the selective arguments we choose to get involved in. " I know who Aidan is.. Why was their no public outcry after his death.. Maybe its because he wasn't a teacher.. He wasn't involved in the gaa or he didn't play traditional Irish music.. Dare I say his life must have been worth less than the lady who died in tullamore? | |||
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"One of the most telling lines in the poem posted above is "at random, by chance". This could happen anytime and anywhere without rhyme or reason and no amount of dick measuring on here will ever change that. All we ever get following a horrific incident like this are people who claim to have all the answers and others who have answers to different questions. I lived through a generation of needless lives taken by people who were too fucking ignorant and stubborn to count to ten, take a deep breath and admit they might all actually have something in common instead of pointing fingers. I'm angry because Ashling Murphy lost her life for no reason at all. I'm angry that Aidan Mann lost his life in Downpatrick a week earlier in broad daylight I'm angry that most people on here will now have to google Aidan Mann because they've never heard of him. I'm angry that one life is seen as more important than another or their loss is more of a watershed moment than the other. Grow up ffs and start admitting that we are all to blame for the blinkers we wear half the time and the selective arguments we choose to get involved in. " | |||
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"It’s interesting that each of the threads about the murder of Aisling Murphy was started by a male. My question is, what are you doing to help end male violence? Women know that not all men are violent towards women. However, we don’t know which men will be. Women have been given a list of things they should and shouldn’t do - you’ve all heard them: don’t walk at night on your own, carry your keys in your hand, have earphones in but no music on so you can hear someone coming up behind you etc etc You might be wondering what you can do. If you’re in a lads WhatsApp group and there are explicit photos of women being shared or women being referred to as bitches, sluts, whores, cunts etc call your friends out on it. Tell them it’s not acceptable. If you’re walking down a street and see a woman being harassed, intervene. Ask if she’s ok and if she wants your help. If you hear someone catcalling tell them it’s not acceptable. If you’re on a night out and a guy is grabbing a woman’s ass, report it to security. Speak to your sons/brothers/friends/nephews/dads/uncles and all the other men in your life about the importance of consent and that speaking in derogatory ways about women is not acceptable. From a fab point of view, don’t send a dick pic in your first message unless it’s asked for in a profile. Don’t refer to r@pe and murder as violence against women. It’s male violence (99% of the time). Stop paying lip service when something like this happens and start helping to change the culture around you. If you read this and feel the urge to comment “not all men” please don’t. Please go somewhere else. " I have to say it... This is one of the best pieces of writing I've seen on this sad subject. I don't always see your point of view but here, you offer progress and a way to improve things. You don't look to blame anyone. Without going into motivations or the mental illness aspect, we all know this sort of thing will be done by men against women 99% of the time simply because men are generally bigger and stronger. I think that being a role model and showing others how to behave, especially our sons, is the most significant thing a man can do to help. Just as you've said J | |||
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"One of the most telling lines in the poem posted above is "at random, by chance". This could happen anytime and anywhere without rhyme or reason and no amount of dick measuring on here will ever change that. All we ever get following a horrific incident like this are people who claim to have all the answers and others who have answers to different questions. I lived through a generation of needless lives taken by people who were too fucking ignorant and stubborn to count to ten, take a deep breath and admit they might all actually have something in common instead of pointing fingers. I'm angry because Ashling Murphy lost her life for no reason at all. I'm angry that Aidan Mann lost his life in Downpatrick a week earlier in broad daylight I'm angry that most people on here will now have to google Aidan Mann because they've never heard of him. I'm angry that one life is seen as more important than another or their loss is more of a watershed moment than the other. Grow up ffs and start admitting that we are all to blame for the blinkers we wear half the time and the selective arguments we choose to get involved in. "And no public outcry about an innocent man Michael Tormey shot dead outside his home in Dublin while his wife and child slept in their beds. All lives are equal. Im not a voilent person nor am I a misogynist and also I dont take kindly to be told that if any of us men on here say all men are not like that, that we should'nt post on this thread. l dont need anyone to categorise me. l find it deeply upsetting what happened to Aishling as l find it deeply upsetting what happened to other innocent people in this country of ours. | |||
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"One of the most telling lines in the poem posted above is "at random, by chance". This could happen anytime and anywhere without rhyme or reason and no amount of dick measuring on here will ever change that. All we ever get following a horrific incident like this are people who claim to have all the answers and others who have answers to different questions. I lived through a generation of needless lives taken by people who were too fucking ignorant and stubborn to count to ten, take a deep breath and admit they might all actually have something in common instead of pointing fingers. I'm angry because Ashling Murphy lost her life for no reason at all. I'm angry that Aidan Mann lost his life in Downpatrick a week earlier in broad daylight I'm angry that most people on here will now have to google Aidan Mann because they've never heard of him. I'm angry that one life is seen as more important than another or their loss is more of a watershed moment than the other. Grow up ffs and start admitting that we are all to blame for the blinkers we wear half the time and the selective arguments we choose to get involved in. And no public outcry about an innocent man Michael Tormey shot dead outside his home in Dublin while his wife and child slept in their beds. All lives are equal. Im not a voilent person nor am I a misogynist and also I dont take kindly to be told that if any of us men on here say all men are not like that, that we should'nt post on this thread. l dont need anyone to categorise me. l find it deeply upsetting what happened to Aishling as l find it deeply upsetting what happened to other innocent people in this country of ours."Percisely the point I was making | |||
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"Segregated education, on the basis of gender or religious affiliation must end; and consent, civility, respect, etc, needs to be a core part of the curriculum." I agree with this but education starts at home. You don't wait until your child is in school to start teaching them right from wrong. | |||
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"One of the most telling lines in the poem posted above is "at random, by chance". This could happen anytime and anywhere without rhyme or reason and no amount of dick measuring on here will ever change that. All we ever get following a horrific incident like this are people who claim to have all the answers and others who have answers to different questions. I lived through a generation of needless lives taken by people who were too fucking ignorant and stubborn to count to ten, take a deep breath and admit they might all actually have something in common instead of pointing fingers. I'm angry because Ashling Murphy lost her life for no reason at all. I'm angry that Aidan Mann lost his life in Downpatrick a week earlier in broad daylight I'm angry that most people on here will now have to google Aidan Mann because they've never heard of him. I'm angry that one life is seen as more important than another or their loss is more of a watershed moment than the other. Grow up ffs and start admitting that we are all to blame for the blinkers we wear half the time and the selective arguments we choose to get involved in. And no public outcry about an innocent man Michael Tormey shot dead outside his home in Dublin while his wife and child slept in their beds. All lives are equal. Im not a voilent person nor am I a misogynist and also I dont take kindly to be told that if any of us men on here say all men are not like that, that we should'nt post on this thread. l dont need anyone to categorise me. l find it deeply upsetting what happened to Aishling as l find it deeply upsetting what happened to other innocent people in this country of ours."I havent actually heard anyone on this thread (or anywhere else) saying that all men are like that. Noone is categorising you. There really is no need to get upset on behalf of all men just because some men assault and kill women. | |||
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"One of the most telling lines in the poem posted above is "at random, by chance". This could happen anytime and anywhere without rhyme or reason and no amount of dick measuring on here will ever change that. All we ever get following a horrific incident like this are people who claim to have all the answers and others who have answers to different questions. I lived through a generation of needless lives taken by people who were too fucking ignorant and stubborn to count to ten, take a deep breath and admit they might all actually have something in common instead of pointing fingers. I'm angry because Ashling Murphy lost her life for no reason at all. I'm angry that Aidan Mann lost his life in Downpatrick a week earlier in broad daylight I'm angry that most people on here will now have to google Aidan Mann because they've never heard of him. I'm angry that one life is seen as more important than another or their loss is more of a watershed moment than the other. Grow up ffs and start admitting that we are all to blame for the blinkers we wear half the time and the selective arguments we choose to get involved in. And no public outcry about an innocent man Michael Tormey shot dead outside his home in Dublin while his wife and child slept in their beds. All lives are equal. Im not a voilent person nor am I a misogynist and also I dont take kindly to be told that if any of us men on here say all men are not like that, that we should'nt post on this thread. l dont need anyone to categorise me. l find it deeply upsetting what happened to Aishling as l find it deeply upsetting what happened to other innocent people in this country of ours.
I havent actually heard anyone on this thread (or anywhere else) saying that all men are like that. Noone is categorising you. There really is no need to get upset on behalf of all men just because some men assault and kill women."Read last paragraph of original post. Told not to use "all men are not like that" That's the point l was making. | |||
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"One of the most telling lines in the poem posted above is "at random, by chance". This could happen anytime and anywhere without rhyme or reason and no amount of dick measuring on here will ever change that. All we ever get following a horrific incident like this are people who claim to have all the answers and others who have answers to different questions. I lived through a generation of needless lives taken by people who were too fucking ignorant and stubborn to count to ten, take a deep breath and admit they might all actually have something in common instead of pointing fingers. I'm angry because Ashling Murphy lost her life for no reason at all. I'm angry that Aidan Mann lost his life in Downpatrick a week earlier in broad daylight I'm angry that most people on here will now have to google Aidan Mann because they've never heard of him. I'm angry that one life is seen as more important than another or their loss is more of a watershed moment than the other. Grow up ffs and start admitting that we are all to blame for the blinkers we wear half the time and the selective arguments we choose to get involved in. And no public outcry about an innocent man Michael Tormey shot dead outside his home in Dublin while his wife and child slept in their beds. All lives are equal. Im not a voilent person nor am I a misogynist and also I dont take kindly to be told that if any of us men on here say all men are not like that, that we should'nt post on this thread. l dont need anyone to categorise me. l find it deeply upsetting what happened to Aishling as l find it deeply upsetting what happened to other innocent people in this country of ours.
I havent actually heard anyone on this thread (or anywhere else) saying that all men are like that. Noone is categorising you. There really is no need to get upset on behalf of all men just because some men assault and kill women. Read last paragraph of original post. Told not to use "all men are not like that" That's the point l was making."If you don’t understand why the phrase “not all men” is not helpful, go do some reading about it | |||
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"I didn't even realise until today that a man was murdered Friday night in donegal, albeit I was away until Sunday night. another terrible despicable act. " And not a word about it maybe because he wasn't a teacher.. He wasn't involved with gaa or he wasn't an Irish musician  | |||
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"I didn't even realise until today that a man was murdered Friday night in donegal, albeit I was away until Sunday night. another terrible despicable act. And not a word about it maybe because he wasn't a teacher.. He wasn't involved with gaa or he wasn't an Irish musician "He was killed by a man. More male violence. | |||
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"I didn't even realise until today that a man was murdered Friday night in donegal, albeit I was away until Sunday night. another terrible despicable act. And not a word about it maybe because he wasn't a teacher.. He wasn't involved with gaa or he wasn't an Irish musician "the question is how do we stop these attacks occurring? unfortunately I don't think we can . | |||
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"I didn't even realise until today that a man was murdered Friday night in donegal, albeit I was away until Sunday night. another terrible despicable act. And not a word about it maybe because he wasn't a teacher.. He wasn't involved with gaa or he wasn't an Irish musician
He was killed by a man. More male violence. "And women are saints? Please have some perspective on this... | |||
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"I didn't even realise until today that a man was murdered Friday night in donegal, albeit I was away until Sunday night. another terrible despicable act. And not a word about it maybe because he wasn't a teacher.. He wasn't involved with gaa or he wasn't an Irish musician the question is how do we stop these attacks occurring? unfortunately I don't think we can ."Never as I said before men are hard wired to be violent due to the effects of testosterone.. | |||
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"I didn't even realise until today that a man was murdered Friday night in donegal, albeit I was away until Sunday night. another terrible despicable act. And not a word about it maybe because he wasn't a teacher.. He wasn't involved with gaa or he wasn't an Irish musician
He was killed by a man. More male violence.
And women are saints?
Please have some perspective on this... "I have plenty of perspective. Thanks for your advice though | |||
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"Please stop feeding the troll (CG). As his profile states, hes only here for the forums so he sees inflammatory, degrading and stupid contributions on various forums as a way of getting the attention (notoriety) he's obviously missing elsewhere. His point on testosterone in all men = violence in all men is simplistic beyond any sort of sense. And he obviously isnt here to actually meet or he'd wind his neck in for his cock's sake" You’d think the mods would do something about it wouldn’t you? | |||
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